Ace Combat General #339 - /aceg/

>three generals up at once

This one's the official now ok.

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And with that, my work is done. Going back to bed, see you buddies in the morning.

Also slavshit best shit.

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>>188115703
Amen. 'night buddies.

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Good morning, /aceg/. Why so many threads?

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I got this today.

Godbless Osea, and nobody else.

>>188116958
Where did you get that from?

>>188093454
That's why he showed up as a teen in a cutscene

>>188117358

CYHNAH

>>188117487
What?

we need the Gate Keeper this time around for VGL, Belka is a shit goalie

>>188119917
Yes, unless he turns out to be worse than Belka too like the last one

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>>188120129
nothing can break through the golden nest

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>>188118763

China.

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>>188120234
What does Gault mean anyway? I don't think it's a german word for anything, just a name

>>188120514
Maybe next time I should pronounce it first

>NCR
My buddy

>>188120621
Gold, all Belkan ace squads in Zero are named after colours
Gelb is yellow, Grun is green, Schnne is snow, etc

>>188120740
Oh they just went full Grun on it and didn't spell it right, that makes sense

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>>188120621

I'm the Sea Goblin guy too. I'll probably roll it up and stick it on my Sea Goblin kit at some point like a lot of Seals and stuff do.

>>188121378
They carry flags around? But yeah that would be neat

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>>188121543

It's pretty common. They'll bring them with them, take pictures with it, depending on what they want to do with it they'll sign them. A lot of dudes bring them back and give them to friends and family as gifts.

"This is the flag I carried on my tour, I want you to have it." Sort of things. They'll make up a certificate with the time, place and mission. Things like that.

They work better as marker panels too. And if you want to get morbid they can put it over you if you're KIA but that's less common.

>>188122593
You nearly did it.

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>>188121797
>>188122667

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>>188122723
He's probably only like 6'3". He's just flanked by two short guys.

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>>188088340
It's not going to be on the next demo but there will be a mode like that in the future.

>>188123017
Is that the new cockpit?

>>188123017
Fuck that looks nice, especially with the tracking
I haven't asked in a while so, any news on trackIR?

>>188123017
>tfw the only reason you haven't bought the demo yet is that you're holding back on buying games to deal with your chronic backlog pains
>tfw you have to make a sub-backlog of games to complete within the year
>tfw said sub-backlog isn't even a third of the full backlog
I think I'll crack as soon as it hits steam, though. This is some sort of gaming bulemia.

>>188123506
But the demo is free...

>>188123017

What game is this

>>188123576
Wasn't it a name-your-own price thing?
Also, KS when? I gotta throw money.

>>188123672
Name a price of 0 dollars.

>>188123714
>that works
Fuck, I learnt something new.

>>188123662
Project Wingman
https://rb-d2.itch.io/wingman

How long / how much of a timesink is the demo?
Maybe I'm being stupid due to the size of my backlong.

>>188123871
It's literally a single level. If you take more than 10min to finish it I'd be suprised.

>>188123017
next demo when, buddy?
also congrats on the grant money

>>188123918
Ok, then I was being stupid. I hope my computer can run it. Downloading atm.
What content does it have?

>>188123995
One mission where you shoot some planes and I think one aircraft to do it with. It's a barebones demo, but it's fun, I think a new one is on the way
There were some older ones with different missions but I don't think they're uploaded anymore for obvious reasons

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>>188123082
Yup, It's a revised version of the old Flanker cockpit. Figured the old one wasn't up to par of how I wanted it.

>>188123093
Thanks anon, at the moment I've put it in the backburner because I've got to finish and polish this demo. I will update the upcoming demo eventually with TrackIR support.

>>188123938
I'm working really hard on it to get it out sometime in the next 2 weeks. But at the moment I'm running on valve time.

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Saw Viggen in Sweden yesterday

>>188124417
In the air or on the ground?

>>188124383
really looking forward to it but take your time
best of luck m8

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>>188124417

>>188124539
BLUE BOARD

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>>188124574

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>>188124452
In the air, all the pics are oc for you aceg

>>188124681
stop this degeneracy right now

>>188124737
nice

I like the viggen better than the gripen.

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Obligatory S/MTD post

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>>188124919
Yeah, it's pretty neat. The Draken was there too, just the two-seater tho, I don't know if the single-seaters still fly.

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>>188125401
Draken is very sexy

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>>188125401

Just finished playing the demo. I'm blown away. Switching missiles with the d-pad felt weird at first, but I got used to it quickly (years of GoW experience help, I guess).
Will there be ammo displays in cockpit view in later versions?
I was also wondering if there would be further optimizations, though I'm not one to complain about having a 20-30 FPS performance as long as the game isn't slowed like when you're emulating.
>fail mission because you crash in a large aircraft you shot down
Truly the Ace Combat experience.

And here's a J32 Lansen flyby http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1504437991066.webm

Protip: pretty loud

>Calamity Raven fight with the escort APC
For what purpose?

>>188125514
Looks a bit goofy with two seats

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>>188128152
Yeah, the short butt and big canopy on the sk35 isn't as aesthetically pleasing as the regular j35. Guess it's more practical to keep a trainer flying though.

Here's a pic from google for reference

It's crazy how much top tier OC we have in /aceg/ lately. Razgriz Patch guy restocks, thunder is publishing the RPG, PW Dev gets lodsemoney. 2017 has actually been really good for us, and 2018 will only be better.

>>188128743
Well they tend to keep trainers around for joyrides too. IIRC there's a bunch of 2 seater Vampires around here still for that among the regular one seaters

>>188128801
>thunder publishes the RPG
Hang on when did that happen?

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Morning buddies!
So what's everyone up to today?

>>188128152
Most of the CR fights are entirely for "fuck you" purposes

>>188129264
Looking at airshow footage. Exporting a draken takeoff webm right now.

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>>188129315
Is he the new Dirk then?

>>188129264
Adding elliptical wings to my push pull fighter, maybe removing the CRP for less ridiculousness

>>188129424
And there it is! http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1504440303510.webm

>>188129264
Watching the Italian GP on TV

>>188129539
Can we see a side on view?

>>188129539
Yeah, it's quite accurate to compare the two, including the fact that they actual advanced tactics and bullshit units.

>>188129689
RIP Valentino

>>188128934
>>188128801
Don't jinx me.

I am in talks with a buddy to have it editorialized, which will result in a publishable product. I'll know more on monday.

>>188129730
RIP Max

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>>188129730
It still feels like they lowered the damage resistance of all the units even more than in 2, come to think of it there was an escort APC mission early on with Dirk's oneshot kills
I guess this will be just as fun

>>188129690
Here you go

>>188129782
Best of luck then

>>188130015
Do you have dimensions for this?

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>>188130316
Around the Do335 give or take a meter, so rather large

>>188130606
Are the two engines the same?

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>>188129264
Hunting for references to draw with. I think I'll use this for the MiG-31, I think it favours the Foxhound's distinctive blockiness.
>>188129782
What's the working title? I doubt it'll be "/aceg/ RPG".

Would you mind giving me a crash course on aircraft internals? Feel free to go into as much detail as you feel is needed, I'm eager to learn.

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>>188131235
There's no reason for them to not be I think, except on that one hybrid thing I drew for the Dark Shark buddy a while ago

>>188131454
My working title is "/aceg/ abomination."
I should change that at some point soon.

What do you want to know about aircraft internals? That's kind of vague. I can answer specific questions, and give opinions, but I don't think I can summarize something as broad as 'aircraft internals' in a timely or concise manner.

>>188131547
Just seems a bit nose heavy. What's the landing gear arrangement, tricycle?

>>188131871
>tfw lack of knowledge impedes giving specific questions
Mostly concerning the internal structure of an aircraft and arrangement of major clusters of avionics, if that makes any sense.

>>188131949
For what kind of aircraft?

>>188131949
hold on i got you

>>188132046
I think using the F-4 variants would be the best, but I'd be inclined to say F-15, Su-27 and variants of those.

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>>188131949

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>>188131871
The gear needs reworking because I don't know if I can still store it in the wings, but yeah it has to be a tricycle by default. my guesstimation on the CG is just around the pilot, a bit fwd perhaps

I'd go roughly halfway between both engines, the fuel should be stored center

Making working flaps and ailerons is a bit of a pain though and I don't know how to really get it to look good while working, that said these here are clearly too large

>>188132163
I'm not sure what I can tell you that you couldn't learn from just looking at these nice cutaway views.

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>>188132205

>>188132307
A bit of help in making semes out of them, that is understanding where to put things instead of just placing them where they are on the model I use, would go a long way.
>>188132205
>>188132360
Reading through the F-5 one, do you have photographs of the nozzle actuator? Also, what is the purpose of the "Wing torque-box construction"? Is it a mechanism or a pattern in the frame?

>>188132560
>in making sense
Stupid typos.
Also, I can't help but notice number 21, "Accesories". Is the marketing meme?

>>188132560
What sort of things? For electronics and avionics you generally sick them in the nose. The radar goes on the tip, and you generally stick the computers somewhere near the cockpit. You don't want to bury them somewhere you can't easily accessed from outside, and they need to be cooled.

>>188132560
Afaik torque box is just a term for the structure of the wing.

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>>188132205
Yeah these are probably still the best bet for this kind of stuff

>>188132560
>Wing torque box construction
Just seems to refer to the stringers and general construction of the wing, not a whole lot of other elements in the wing though so perhaps those are the ones that carry the load exclusively, like a bunch of mini spars or something, so probably what >>188133195 said
Here's a picture of how a really simple wing is constructed


For the rest, what Thunder said. Usually there's an avionics bay in the nose somewhere just behind the radar. sometimes it's at the rear or around the cargo bay, but I've not seen it on smaller aircraft. That's speaking for business jets though

Engines are obvious, fuel usually goes somewhere in the wings or centerline so it doesn't fuck with the center of gravity too much, that said on something like the Typhoon they just stuck fuel wherever there's room so you'll see a ton of conformal tanks on it. Controls just go to and from the surfaces, same for the hydraulics.

I don't think there's all that many other systems

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>>188131949
like magic

>>188133454
Still one of the best things to come out of WT, and I completely forgot about it

>>188132840
What's the function of the sky-spot antena? Just receving broadcasts coming from above?
>>188133301
The radial pattern of the struts in the F-5 and Eurofighter surprise me a bit, I imagined all wings would be constructed in a way closer to your example, with struts parallel to the fuselage. Makes me wonder what an aeroelastic wing looks like on the inside.
>>188133454
>on point example

>>188133727
>What's the function of the sky-spot antena? Just receving broadcasts coming from above?

In the context of vietnam era aircraft, it was for ground directed bombing during inclement weather.

>Eurofighter
That one has ribs though, they just decided to make the spar/stringer things the same size and shape to get a more rigid construction, I think.
That said, the skin might be part of what carries the load on the F5, but I don't know

>>188134156
Why did they put that antenna up top then? Feels like an odd choice for signals that would come from the bottom most of the time
If I understood the function properly

Does someone have some good pictures of Spitfire ailerons and how they actuate? I need some to try and get working ailerons on my wings here.

>>188134314
Whoops, meant to link to you too of course >>188133727

>>188131454
I don't know how detailed you want, but here's a rough overview of aircraft internals:
The nose of a Jet Aircraft holds the radar equipment, which is a radar dish with enough free room to move around. This takes up 5-10% of the aircraft. Behind that is the cockpit including all necessary control elements. The cockpit is another 10-15% of the fuselage. Next to the aircraft are the air inlets, which are basically long and empty tunnels through the fuselage allowing air to flow to the engines. At the beginning of the inlets, there may be doors, which can be closed to regulate air flow to the engine at high speeds (if you go fast, more air will come in through the inlet, so reducing the size of the inlet keeps the air flow constant). Behind the cockpit is the avionics suite, which is basically a cluster of computers. These compute input signals from the cockpit in fly by wire systems, convert data gathered by the radar and other sensors and send the data to the cockpit, roughly 5-10% of the fuselage. Behind the avionics and next to the air inlets is usually an internal fuel tank, which takes up 20-30% Lastly, the air inlets connect to the engines, which are usually 25-30% of the aircraft.

>>188133727
))) i am of biggest help comrad

>>188134314
I don't know a lot about radio waves, but generally you don't need direct line of sight to communicate. I believe that for over the horizon communications, the waves bounce off... something in the atmosphere? So they would be coming down from above... I don't actually understand enough about this to explain with confidence.

You can still use your cellphone even when you can't see a cell tower, no?

>>188134419
>realization hits that I own about 5 Spitfire manuals
Still if anyone has some good pictures it'd be much apprechiated, these are pilot notes, there's not a whole lot about construction in these and the Haynes doesn't have a whole lot either

>>188134764
Well kind of and kind of not. I forgot the term but the radio needs at least pseudo LOS, which is why it barely works in the Alps. Of course it also bounces around and about mountains so sometimes you will still get it
But yeah they also bounce for long range, but I feel like bombing target markers wouldn't be that far away, would they?

I'll be honest too though, I'm pretty sure I only passed that subject through pure luck, radio waves are magic

>>188134432
The wings consist of an internal "skeleton", which consists of multiple spars that extend perpendicular to the aircraft fuselage to the wingtip and are connected by ribs, which are in turn perpendicular to the spars. Around these is the wing's skin, which is a thin layer of material (for jet's it's usually a form of metal) At the end of the wing, the trailing edge, there are two moving parts, the flaps and the ailerons. The flaps are always closer ones to the fuselage and extand to give the wings more area, increasing their lift. The ailerons are always on the outside and allow the aircraft to roll. Inside the wings there are usually more fuel tanks, since the wings are mostly hollow. The landing gear is often stored in the wings, or at least a part of it. Weapons are mounted below the wings on rails, which are usually on slightly reinforced sections of the wings, such as points where spars and ribs cross.
Keep in mind, all of this is describing a normal sized jet fighter, such as an F-15 or Typhoon. For smaller jets, you need to increase the relative size of the cockpit, since you can't just mkae the pilot's smaller for smaller aircraft. The engine's relative size will also increase slightly, jsut like the landing gear. For larger aircraft it's the other way around, you will gain more internal space, which is usually filled up with more fuel, or bomb bays for large aircraft, such as bombers. Larger aircraft are also more likely to have internal weapons bays in general.

>>188134973
It also depends on frequency. Cell phones usually operated somewhere between 850-1900MHz. To reliably skip off the ionosphere, you need to be in the 3-30MHz range.

>>188134973
Also here, you can read up on it yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeves_AN/MSQ-77_Bomb_Directing_Central

>still looking for ACAH clips

>>188135909
of what

>>188136461
Mainly of DFM being retarded, or killcams doing that thing where they spin way out of control.

Basically all the stuff that makes us cringe that ACAH ever happened

>>188136942
just have clips of any non plane missions

>>188135639
I see, I thought it was troop guided, not a fixed station

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There we go I think the new wings look quite nice on it
The ailerons and flaps still don't really work because they clip through everything when moving, but that's a problem for another day

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I'm scared, /aceg/. I'm pretty sure I won't be able to play AC7 anytime close to release due to inadequate hardware (and who knows if PC version will be released at the same time as console). I don't know whether I should get off this general to avoid inevitable spoilers, or just let myself get spoiled and play the game vicariously through streams/youtube/this general.

I don't want to stop coming to the best general I've ever seen, but I also want to play AC7 blind. There's always the slim chance that my laptop can actually run AC7; Project Wingman is quite playable on it, even though I get a shoddy framerate. But I have no idea what I'm going to do if it doesn't.

>>188138864
Buy a PS4

>>188138864
There's still like 6 months to release.

>>188138864

You can come round and play it at mine any time buddy.

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>>188126193
Thanks for the feedback anon!

There is ammo display in the current cockpit view, check out the bottom right of the Projection HUD. Otherwise if you don't like that you can change that in the game settings to use the default third person HUD.

There is eventually going to be optimizations further down the line but I don't know how far I can push it as of yet.

>tfw I just found out three of my close friends went to Gamescom and they didn't even mention it to me in the half year they've been planning it
I've mixed feelings about this. One of them is in France too, so it's not a matter of not having been able to get organized because they were in Spain.
However, I can't help but imagine how amusing it must have been.
>they went to germany, using their level of english

>>188140140
Thanks, I didn't notice it, the HUD is about 4 centimeters wide on my screen in cockpit mode. Is there a way to make it larger? I quite like
I'm grateful of all the work you've put into PW so far, I've quite a few hours into the demo already. It's amazing.

>>188140775
>I quite like the simplified cockpit

>>188140140
>playing without minimal hud cockpit only and having to count your missiles yourself

>>188135909
Still me, got some new shitty clips showcasing yet again MiG-21s pulling some moves
https://my.mixtape.moe/dziirz.mp4
https://my.mixtape.moe/ngpbar.mp4
https://my.mixtape.moe/cmvugl.mp4
https://my.mixtape.moe/ttjhji.mp4
https://my.mixtape.moe/biegfe.mp4

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<< Pull up >>

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>>188144435
Pretty S/MTD to the rescue, once again

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I've spent the afternoon working on a cutout for this S/MTD ripo... INSPIRED design. Unfortunately, hand pains win over autism-fueled design urges, I'm leaving it as a sketch for the time being.

>>188146062
that looks very nice

>>188146062
nice!

>>188137121
I can't play AND record the game, because memory space on my Windows partition is too small

>>188146062
That looks really nice, you kinda make me want to do one
Engine looks a bit small tho

>>188142035
LULZ

Thanks a ton again. Keep at it senpai!

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>>188146864
That and I not only forgot a canard, but the one I did draw is half-sized or some reason.

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Post cool things.
Do you know any good space fighter games?
>>188146964
Nice.
>>188134764
Radio waves do bounce off the Ionosphere, which is not to be confused with the meme excuse for the Internet that Strangereal has.

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>>188146964
>martian build quality

>>188147948
>good space fighter games
X-Wing series
Wing Commander 1 and 2, 3 and 4 refuse to detect my joystick properly so I can't say much about those
Starshatter to some degree
Independence War 2

There's also some about commanding bigger boats
Starshatter again
Independence War 1
Treasure Planet, ok this is just an rtsI felt like including because it's kinda fun if stupidly simple

Ultimately the greats are X-Wing, paricularly TIE because it's an improvement on the first game, and Wing Commander. The latter is the comfiest space carrier sim I know. But Origin made all their fighter games like that apparently, Strike Commander is very similar, so are the WWI and WWII games I haven't played yet

But that means you'll have to deal with DOS button mapping and wonky joystick support

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>>188149198
>>188147948
And I forgot to add the best part of WC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rocwNg05FL4

I also forgot to mention Freespace 2 like an imbecile, pretty much the more modern version of the WC/X-Wing type gameplay. Not the biggest fan of the ship designs though.
That said there is a fun BSG mod for it that is probably standalone and free and I'm pretty sure there's a WC one too

>>188147948
I really like Psygnosis's games. G-Police is god-tier, but it involves futuristic jet-powered attack helicopters rather than fighters. Colony Wars is great fun too. Other than than, X-Wing/Tie Fighter/Rogue Squadron series, SW Starfighter, Battle for Naboo is quite decent too
>>188149198
>martian
Seems people do remember my ramblings. Actually it's
>martian jap-neucom build quality for mars usea exclusive use
They don't make outlandish aircraft designs, but their dabbling in cutting edge techs makes the simile close enough.

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>trying to guesstimate the CG of this thing properly
It's times like this where I wish sketchups Volume function would still work properly

>>188150483
I remember parts of it at least

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>>188147948
House of the Dying Sun

I heard Everspace is amazing as well

>>188151474
The map is quite handy. Tharis and Chryse are Mars Usea, just split by a civil war. They didn't have a martian Scarface squadron. In this case, the Q-15 is deployed as the C.12 by Chryse. Gekka is Mars Neucom, complete with their corporate-ruled tract of land.

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>>188147948
>>188151758
Seconding House of the Dying Sun.

>>188124383
>valve time
so four months then?

>>188153204
4 years

>>188152701
The name sounds pretty dope. I hear the narrative sucks though

>>188153938
I actually enjoyed the narrative quite a bit. It's fairly trim, and you get most of it through a few readable bits of data you unlock through the campaign. No cutscenes or extraneous wankery. The game isn't going to give you a full backstory or any real characters; the only two characters who matter are the Emperor and his 'Dragon.' You can actually get a surprising amount of depth out of the unlocked lore tidbits if you read into it a little.

>>188153938
>>188154657
Also, the gameplay is obscenely smooth. The only place where I think the game falls short is in its amount of content; I find the levels fairly replayable, and the highest difficulty level is a significant step up from the ones below, but there still aren't that many levels.

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>>188124383
>valve time

How much you guys wanna bet that the Erusians are gonna turn that Space Elevator into a super weapon?

>>188156225
since when was this not an accepted fact? after Megalith its safe to assume anything they can turn into a genocidal weapon of mass destruction will be turned into such

Liv if anyone wants to join me on a adventure on this rainy day

>>188159209
Link?

10 minute warning for RPG folks.

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>>188160451

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>>188161139
i'd take the F-15 as a gf

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>>188161515
Do you have the gf vs F15 edit, because I lost mine

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>>188128152
Not that shit again

>>188161819
I also want it

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>>188129730
Don't forget Spain badly owning us
Fucking 4-2-4

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>>188161819
Also, F-15 is superior to any gf, everyone knows that

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>>188162039
>>188162253
I can't find it anymore unfortunately, I'm sure it's somewhere

>>188161954
What?

Just beat AC04 as my first AC game. What an experience that was. I don't think I've ever played a game that does a more credible job of making the player feel truly larger-than-life. The point in the game at which everyone starts cheering for Mobius 1 when you show up on the battlefield put such a big dumb smile on my face. Progressing a bit as a pilot was immensely satisfying as well.

Can't wait to do AC5 and AC0.

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>>188163005
Welcome on board, buddy! What's your planefu?

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>>188162983
oh my that's lewd

>>188162983
Yet another APC escort mission

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>>188147948
>Do you know any good space fighter games?

Freespace 2, anon.Freespace 2 has a legitimately excellent story, and the dogfights are plenty fun. There's no feeling quite like weaving through the massive beam cannon broadsides of capital ships in that game while flak bursts around you and you hear the hum of the next beam cycling up.

Plus, the source code was released to the community some time ago, so a community-run project has applied visual upgrades to every aspect of the game. There's also a few excellent game-length fan-made campaigns.

Check it out. Here's a great fan-made trailer using entirely in-game assets to pique your interest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDU8KW0SxK8

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>>188163005
I think they all manage to pull that feeling off quite well
Also what >>188163114 said

>>188163181
Sure is

>>188163285
Yeah those fucking things can be kinda fun, or a massive pain, depends on who the enemy is. It's just a shame that it doesn't even allow you to use a custom APC

>>188163114
>>188163524

Definitely the F-15, although I do love the MiG-29 as well.

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>>188163763
Good taste

>>188147948
Tachyon: The a Fringe.
It's got Bruce Campbell, space pirates and bugfuck nuts rich people

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>>188163763
F-15 best taste

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>>188163763
Nice

>9

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>>188149675
>>188163501
>Freespace 2
I've read that the Steam version does not work right out of the box, what about the GOG one?
Where do I find mods, and are there guides on how to install them?
Finally, is there anything else I should know?
Have a Raptor.

>>188166492
There are quite a few games with flawed Steam releases but gog releases that run fine. No idea about Freespace 2, though.

>>188166492
>gog version
I just fired it up and it fucks the resolution up in the menu, presumably in game too, where not everything is displayed in the window
But there's that big FS2 Open patch that brings it all up to date it makes a separate install and only needs the FS2 exe IIRC, so that'd probably be required for either version

The installer should come up if you just google FS2 Open. That one works pretty much fine. Just takes forever to download because it's a few gigs of stuff and a bunch of mods, but I think you can tell it to just install FS2 Open, read, patch FS2 to a point where it runs fine

We're now collecting suggestions for new players for the /aceg/ divegrass team. If you have anyone you'd like to see kick a ball for 90 minutes, now's the time to let us know.
Keep in mind these folks will be mainly on the bench, used primarily as substitutes

>>188168334
Anton Kupchenko
we need the Gate Keeper for the goalie if Belka cant hold onto its clay again

>>188168643
Seconded

>>188168334
"Namefags Reee"

>>188168643
>>188168723
Thirded

>>188168643
>>188168723
>>188168826
Fourthed

>>188168334
The NAIAD

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A friend just sent me this

I never knew there was only one of her kind left...

>>188168334
Megalith for defence
SAAM equipped Su-47 for scorer
AC4 QAAM for scorer

>>188170117
HISTORIA

>>188170117
She deserved to live ;-;

The more I play it the more I get annoyed that VC3 never got an english release, not because the translation is bad, but because I would've liked it so much more if it was

>>188170117
Yeah it's a real shame, could've been a nice export fighter. Could've replaced our F5s a while ago

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>>188170565
I'm mad over one letter FUCK

>>188170826
:^)

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>>188163763
>that sensual figure
Top taste man

>>188172393
F-15 is one of the few planes that looks sensual, and absolutely fucking lethal at the same time.

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>>188172489
She kills you with her looks
And bombs

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>the heavy breathing in "Avalon" is Cipher's

>>188173689
DEEPEST LORE

>>188173689
>it's likely the second Morgan was recovered from Avalon by Osean Forces before they flooded it
>Gault 1 over B7R
>"Demon Lord of the Round Table, I was hoping to meet you under different circumstances."
>"We could have flown the skies together."
>"Demon Lord, come with us. We can rid this world of its borders together."
>it's highly possible Anton wanted not just Pixy, but you as well and stole both Morgan's hoping you'd join him
>ywn fly with Pixy for AWWNB in Cipher and Pixy livery Morgan's with Gault, Sorcerer and Wizard over Avalon

>>188168334
Milosz Sulejmani is a must
I want to see him scoring while yelling AAAANTAREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

>>188175840
He'll just sabotage us, like FUCKING Belka did.

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>>188175840
>add him in the league
>mod in the vocaroo voices in it

>>188176115
Does anyone have those laying around?

>>188175280
>it would have ended poorly for no goddamn reason like AC3's Ouroboros routes did because derr da bad guyz can't win

>>188139664
same

>>188173689
I thought people were fucking with me when they told me that but then I listened to it more closely after that and holy shit they were right.

>>188175280
Now we need a Morgan in Cipher's livery.
Whenever you got time I'd request this one, Dorn.

>>188176203
Only this one still hasn't expired
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0XR9MWOQVfd

>>188178324
there's like 4, including a navy seal copypasta

>>188178570
Yup, but they seem to have expired so they are no longer available, unless somebody saved them.

>>188173768
i'd like to note that AWWNBs has some links into Arthurian mythology, with this line relating to when Arthur encountered a carefree goose as a child from a novel called "The Once and Future King"
>"But don't they fight each other for the pasture?"
>"Dear me, you are a silly," she said. "There are no boundaries among the geese. ... How can you have boundaries if you fly? Those ants of yours — and the humans too — would have to stop fighting in the end, if they took to the air."

>>188168334
<<Woof!>>

>>188178105
Put on the backlog. These few weeks are going to be busy though, so you'll have to be patient.

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>>188168334
Chopper
Hamilton as a reserve

>>188173689
I like the idea that the whistling in the beginning of ACES is Blaze

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>>188175280

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>>188180452
No worries buddy, take all the time you need.

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post nyoom

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Are you taking care of your precious bodily fluids, /aceg/?

>>188188542
is this a reference i'm not getting

I like AC:I because Ace Combat with this much grinding and customization sounds autistic enough for me but holy shit I didn't realize hard mode would be so overtuned
>OHKO missiles flying everywhere

>>188192089
A-6, A-4 and F-4 confirmed perv

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>to become a pilot you have to have very healthy hearing

>>188192307
A-6 is grabbing is head at the sight of dat ass

>>188192089
I wonder if that F-14 knows all those other planes are staring her down.

>>188193024
i think she knows

>>188169715
Seconding this. DA NAIAD is the key to victory.

>>188194626
What about the Gleipnir Captain

>>188195052
The Gleipnir Captain is Sulejmani-tier hammy.
>PREPARETHESHOCKCANNON

>>188195253
>LEASATH'S TRUE MIGHT

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>thread is a bit unactive

Well, let's activate it

>>188190237
Yes, to sucking dick regularly

Brady has gone full /gayceg/

It's from Doctor Strangelove, which you should watch right this second

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>>188196806
Almonds officially activated

>>188197181
If you're gonna throw shade, you need to step up your game. That was weak.

>>188197323
working on my bantz game

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>>188197323

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>>188197381
Can't make successful gay jokes when it's abundantly clear that we're all almost purely planesexual here.

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>>188197912
it's their fault for being so pretty

>>188197912
I accidentally used the word 'planesexual' in a conversation the other day and got probably the weirdest stare I have ever gotten

>>188198236
i have S/MTD as my phone wallpaper, and one of my classmates asked me why did i have a plane as my pic, and i told him "because she's cute" I also got a weird stare

>>188198236
Kek. What was the context?

>>188198474
It's just a matter of time really. Seeing all these plane pics is awakening something in us.

>>188198493
I was talking with some friends,
and one of them noted than I was the most obsessed with planes that he'd ever seen,
and I said something along the lines of 'planesexuals are rare' and he just stared at me

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>>188198613
i totally assumed my crush on her

>>188198821
>>188172637
This is the pic that really made me realize what was happening to me. and F-15 isn't even my primary planefu It's like I'm actually associating planes with feminine figures and sexual attraction now; I'm getting my neural pathways criss-crossed or something. But it's too late to go back now.

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>>188199641
welcome to the club then

>>188199641
Soon I'll be associating female bodies with planes, instead of the other way around, if this keeps up.

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This is what happens when you meme. It becomes reality. You should have been ready for this, but now it's too late. You made your plane shaped bed. Lie in it.

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>>188199849
>tfw a girl walks by with a booty like this

>>188200064
having a plane-shaped bed must be top comfy

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>>188200126
It is

>>188200064
>says king normie

>>188200114
The fastest girl around

>>188200114
Is the MiG-31 the epitome of being just wings attached to engines?

>>188200419
>ywn sleep in your planefu

i hope you don't pull the ejection lever by accident

>>188200589
This is the 25, but yeah they're good examples of engines-with-wings. There are probably some better examples that I don't know about, but they're definitely not as cute as the Mig-25.

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>>188199641
I have also slightly noticed that in this >>188192089 case (and the following comments, not to the point of sexual attraction, but my brain personalized them for a moment.
please stop /aceg/ it scares me, /wowsg/ has already turned me a little 2D, or atleast more than i would like to admit/ have happen

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>>188200812
MiG 31 is cuter
>>188200865
i also personalized them, i think i'm not the only loon but i'm not concerned

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>>188200865
>>188201159
did someone say personalize?

>>188201379
Well, that's interesting

>>188201159
First of all, no she's not. Secondly, I'm almost positive that the photo you posted is of a Mig-25, despite the label. See the landing gear: the Mig-31 uses an arrangement of two rear wheels on each side, while the Mig-25 uses a single larger rear while per side. And that's what you see in this image.

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Out of my way, youngsters. Superior Belkan 50s tech coming through.

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>>188201159
it slightly concerns me because I don't know if I can revert back if i keep going. It's taken a long time to re-learn/associate ship names with actual ships instead of kancolle characters, and in some cases I still associate some of them wrong because I didn't know of the ship before the character or barely seen images of the actual ship.
help me

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>>188202620
sonny, sit down and respect your elders

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>>188202620
I still want to see an Ace combat game set in the WW2-50s era of tech

>>188202939
huh, weird one of the spoilers didn't work and I used highlight -> ctrl + s

>>188202620

I fantasize about Dornievich working some magic here.

>>188200420
Exactly. You don't see me running around personifying and fetishsizing and sexually objectifying planes like you damn kids.

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post smol

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>>188205601
I don't think the production versions of the S-54/56 ever looked like this unfortunately.

>>188199641
who's your planefu then

>>188206271
Probably the Su-35. The Su-30SM is a contender, but I don't like two-seaters as much, generally.

The Su-37 would probably take top spot if it were anything more than a tech demonstrator; if we're talking Strangereal, then Su-37 takes the cake easily, for me. But in the real world, probably the Su-35.

I used to like Flankers with canards better 100% of the time, but now I'm torn. On one hand I prefer the uninterrupted sleekness of the fuselage in Flankers that have no canards, but on the other hand I sometimes prefer the visual weight that the canards add; makes the plane look more aggressive and intimidating. So yeah, I've got a bit of a dilemma going on.

The F-15C is probably my favorite real-world plane after the Flanker. It would be the F-15E, except the two-seat thing kind of throws me off still.

Some two-seat variants that I like just as much as the single-seaters are the two-seat Rafale and the two-seat Mig-25. The Mig-25 was my favorite plane for most of my childhood, and it's still close to the F-15C as far as my favorites go.

>>188207389
I think the reason I prefer single seaters is that I don't want to share my imaginary plane with anyone. Go figure.

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>>188207389
I see nothing but patrician taste in this post.

>10

Don't let it die.

>>188205532
I've always liked the YA-9, like an American Su-25

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>hey can I copy your homework
>okay but change it a bit so it's not the same

>>188212890
it looks like they put an f-22 costume on an f-15 airframe

>>188212890
>no saw tooth thrust nozzles
"""stealth"""

>>188213330
Sure looks pretty low-effort, but maybe they just decided to forgo all-around stealth and just focus on forward-stealth instead. If they actually succeeded in sufficiently minimizing the radar cross-section from the front, then their efforts might have some kind of payoff in anti-ship operations, especially if they can carry long-range air-to-ship missiles. But who really knows.

>>188213958
>Here's our 21st century stealth plane!
>Yeah, we lied...It's not really stealth, we just said that so you'd pay attention for a few minutes.

K-pop or Eurobeat? Which one is better?

>>188215180
Eurobeat

>>188215180
Always Eurobeat.

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>>188212890
The J-31 looks like shit but I kind of like the look of the J-20, almost like a modern stealth MiG-1.44

>>188215276
>>188215348
Good taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAL16KvwqXA

>>188215180
I like kpop

>>188215180
K-pop is fucking trash and Korea should be nuked instead of Japan for it's mere existence.
Best Korea, make it happen.

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>>188215180
Eurobeat

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How the fuck do I defeat Aigaion in 6? I must have tried it a dozen times now and while most of the mission is very straightforward I get gibbed every time I try to approach the core to finish it off. I can't even tell what it is that kills me, I just get within missile range on the final approach and then I immediately explode.

>>188222290
Cheese it with RCL or FAEB, they're ludicrously broken for this mission

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>that discussion while I was sleeping
You're all memeing, right? I suppose I'm glad I'm not that far gone. Makes me wonder if actually I'm not just producing lewds for the thread.
>>188203427
What should I do with the XB-51?
>three engines
BELKA STRONK
>>188206229
There never was one, the S-54/55/56 never left the drawing board.
>>188222290
Make sure you destroy all missile launchers and AA guns on the Aigaion (they're not targets and some can be tricky to target) and take care of the Strigon squadron as soon as you've dealt with the Kottos and the Gyges.

How does the AC3's gameplay compare to that of 4/5/0? Does flying feel fairly similar, or am I in for something wonky?

>>188224581
Western release more like 1 and 2
Jap release like the ps2 games in that it is story heavy

Controls are a bit heavy and odd in that IIRC it only really likes input from one axis, the rest is regular ace combat

>>188224354

Well you're under no obligation to actually work on this. You already did the F-105 for me last month. XB-51 was something of a contradiction in terms. Designated as a bomber, it looked like a heavy fighter and was configured for ground attack-- planned load out included eight 20mm cannons.

Belka gonna Belk, so the B-51 BK could have any number of configurations. I'm envisioning it as a 'final evolution' after 30 or so years of development-- think about how Israeli A-4s have been riced out beyond the designers wildest dreams.

>>188225263
So a sort of improbable mashup of technologies that shouldn't be? Such as:
>ok, it's gonna be a stealth-capable airframe
>the overall engine layout sticks
>but the RCS...
>and 8 guns
>surely guided munition are enough...
>ROCKET POWERED SON
>but...

>A-4
I'm not familiar with it's development history, would you mind telling me more?

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Hey there, buddies. I'm the new guy that'll be taking over the flight stick for the /aceg/ team in the /vg/ League. We'll do our best to bring victory and MUH HONOR to the buddies of /aceg/!

>>188225263
Since it's actually longer than the B-2, I could it's basic shape and scale as a reference. Where were the guns meant to be mounted?

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>>188226259
<< Good luck buddy.
May the RNG gods smile upon you. >>

>9

>>188226259
How much time 'till the League starts?

>>188230162
There's no dates set in stone for the League so far, but it's most likely going to happen in late November and early December.

There are the /vg/ League 9 Friendlies though, that will be happening on September 16-17 and 23-24. Teams will be able to ask other teams for a game to be scheduled against each other. More info about them here: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_9_Friendlies

>>188230912
Are we going to have a poll or something to decide against which teams we should play or are we just gonna drop suggestions here on the thread?

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Spent an hour trying to get some papers I should have gotten last year. So a year and an hour.
How is it possible that spanish paperwork obtention works better than french one?
Post planes screwed by red tape and the like. I don't remember any example off the top of my head, so here's mfw.

>>188231598
We could probably just go off of suggestions, but if we specifically needed to decide between some, then we'll do a poll.

We had some ideas so far for a match against /wtg/ or /wotg/

>>188232057
What are you even talking about?

>>188233842
>need an atestation to get something
>need that something to get a number
>need that number to get atestation
That sort of shit.

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>>188232057
I only got killed by politics or silly reasons
>order for 100 placed by the air force
>1 test aircraft crashes
>order cancelled

>>188234423
Imagine if that happened with a sample F-104G.

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>>188232057
>no ww2 dorito bomber ever

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>>188234764
What happened to the american Dorito?

>>188234635
How could they turn that into a positive for marketing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsYwOEYqjEs
>"Ready to fly into the sky"
Tfw taking off to engage in dogfights against enemy aces and superweapons

>>188235076
I mean what if Germany tried a F-104G and then cancelled the order.

>>188235076
>Perfect for kamikaze pilots, just press literally anything and the plane will fly straight towards the Earth.

>>188235076
>Better than planes made of wood, made of scavenged parts of older models and other such recent local designs.

>>188235365
>World War 3
Did they ever really test anything? I only remember they got a scandal with it too

>>188235467
>>188235547
kek

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>>188234764
Wonder what happened to the german scientists the american surely executed for their war crimes

Is it just me or is there no funeral scene in any AC game?

>>188237236
There's the little funeral kinda thing that Kid does for 13.

>>188237236
It's not like it's a requierement for a game. And no, there aren't.

>>188236717

I mean everyone knows about the nazi rocket specialists, but the other day I found out that Unit 731 was basically Americanised as well. Which I suppose doesnt shock me, but does horrify me.

>Change gameplay style in 4 to add some new life to the series
>left vague if rookie or not, although likely am
>Change gameplay style in 5 to add a bit more freedom and movement in dogfighting
>are introduced as a rookie again as players wont be used to the new style
>Gameplay in Zero only given slight modifications from 5 to allow further freedom in movement
>introduce the player as already being apart of an ace squadron as they are likely used to it and are able to fly with ease
Like pottery.

Other than air combat games, what are genres /aceg/ likes? What about genres you like but you've gotten burned out with?

>>188241302
CRPGs, RPGs, FPSs, Tactical FPSs, RTSs, TTBs, SHMUPs and fighting games.
I'd like to like MMORPGs, but I usually get burned out pretty fast with a game so they aren't exactly worth the investment of time.

>>188226259
Best of luck, buddy.