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Life Support Edition

This general is for discussing all shmups/stgs (shoot 'em ups/shooting type games).

RECENT NEWS:

Mushihimesama released on Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/377860/

Dariusburst: Chronicle Saviours on Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/377870/

New Cave game announced: http://promo.cave.co.jp/bancho/
Spoiler - It's more Dodonpachi

CAVE's next Steam Port is Death Smiles.
http://deathsmiles.caveshmups.com/

Give these a try! https://www.mediafire.com/folder/nz0227tzb9zor/shmupmame
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Why didnt you dodge that bullet /shmupg/? Now you lost a life.
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>>128557020
Because I was moving too fast.
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>>128557020
Intentional death, current route for the high score requires it.
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>>128558289
You're a slave to the numbers anon.
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Please don't die again ;_;

I love you guys.
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If we want to survive, we need to begin hosting tournaments or smthng
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Tyrannosatan
What a name
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>>128559493
Create an IRC.
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>>128558972
Not a fuckload to talk about really. People don't want to hear about my shitty Darius play forever.
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>>128562562
But I do, anon.
If nothing else it makes me not feel as bad about my own shitty progress.
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>>128563745
I've been getting dumped on by the WARNING missions in CS mode, I would guess given the nature of the story they are meant to be surprise attacks since they are all long and start you off with zero upgrades. I've played a bit less in the past few days because I've been playing fighting games with friends a bit more and some Shantae.

Asteroid fields stuck inside warp gates are also the worst levels.
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>>128564493
I've been mostly doing AC. Have ADH and ADI cleared, but can't get AEJ yet.
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Finally beat Stage 5's boss in Mushihimesama's arrange mode.
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But then a surprise boss fight came up and i got rekt.

Question: In which modes and difficulties do Aki and Akka fight Reco, and under what requirements?
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>>128566042
It's a Cave game there's always a surprise final boss
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>>128566186
So they always appear in all modes but novice? Or does it depend on certain conditions?
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>>128566348
He always appears on Ultra if you didn't continue.
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>still no platinum achievers for Dariusburst
When will you guys finally git gud?
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>>128560462
There already is one.

https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/#shmups
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>>128566868
When the game doesn't cost 10 little caesar hot & readies.
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>>128566686
Ok. I have to assume the same applies to Arrange then.

If i beat the Stage 5's boss in Normal or 1.5 mode on original difficulty, will i also have to fight Aki afterwards?
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>>128566042
>>128566348
>>128567325
It only appears in the Ultra and Arrange modes, no additional requirements. The Arrange mode has an easier version with slower attacks, and an easier final attack. In Ultra if you shoot at him while his bomb shield is active it shoots this super fast spray that will almost definitely kill you, so don't do it. But that also means you can't use the A button to focus until his shield goes away. Thankfully he doesn't have this in Arrange.
Your bomb is also taken away by bugs before it actually goes off, so it has no prolonged cancelling effect, all it does is cancel whatever bullets are currently on screen, and they come back almost immediately. By the time you're allowed to focus again the screen has already filled back up completely.

He's also way harder on Ultra 1.5 than the original game, his attacks are way faster and it's just silly.
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>>128566686
>>128568162
Thank you very much!

Alright, next i'll aim to finish Normal or 1.5 original.

>Your bomb is also taken away by bugs before it actually goes off, so it has no prolonged cancelling effect
Damn.
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Deathsmiles when
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>>128569541
>still playing/giving a shit about CAVE
Literally the worst shump company.
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Is eschatos considered a good game? Picked it up when it was on sale and it's pretty fun so far from what I've played.

Music is great and I like the bomb system.
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>>128570707
From the 3 people I know that talk about it, the game's apparently very good.
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>>128570707
It's meh.
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anyone have a list of original, new shmups for 2016?
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>>128571945

None :^)

Shhh, no tears. Only ports now.
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>>128571945
Raiden V on Xbone
Ikaruga 2 on PS4
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Every shmup that I get close to completing crashes on me.
Why does it keep happening.
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what do you thing of overkill mode
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>>128575597
I like it
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>>128565798
I may be retarded I understand that

why does no one here zoom the game in so it takes up all of their vertical space? I understand not everyone has a setup that allows tate mode, although you really should god damn is it fantastic after playing vertical games on a normal horizontal monitor, but I've never seen a mushi screenshot where you guys have zoomed in to make it fit the vertical space you do have
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>>128575476
What priest did you piss off to get that kind of curse?
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Guys, I really like shmups with cute anime girls in it.
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>>128579034
girlshmups are not true shmups. you like anime girls not shmups. dont try to argue, this is official.
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>>128579034
Which ones m9
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>>128578904
I always zoom in as much as I can without cutting anything off. I guess some people don't check the settings menu before playing a game, which seems strange to me

And agreed 100% with the tate thing. I have my shitty old monitor permanently rotated right now and it's great

>>128579034
Me too anon.

But I also like games with cool spaceships in them
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>>128578904
This guy has an even better idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owZreqQpg8s
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>>128579674
Oh shit, this video again.
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>check shmups.system11 because I heard that's the go-to when you like shmups
>half the posts are people complaining about DRM and moe
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>>128580175
system11 posters are legitimately autistic. I've seen threads where the hivemind shits on a game nonstop for not being exactly like their favorite arcade games of the 90s
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>>128580175
The strategy board is completely dead
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>>128580450
It's a bit of a turd, but they have the only active (stretching it, not completely dead) western scoreboards and once in a blue moon something of interest might be posted.
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>>128578919
I didnt do anything, I sacrificed a goat to the shmup gods everyday.

At least I managed to 1cc every shmup that has crashed on me.
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>>128579034

So what shmups have cute girls?
Touhou is the obvious one.
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>>128579674
yeah, I'm not crazy enough to zoom the x more than the y. I don't get how anyone could do that for more than a few seconds before realizing their awful mistake

>>128580998
I don't think I've ever had a shmup crash on me. I've had horrible slowdown in games like crimzon clover that took a bit of time to fix, but no crashes. what games have crashed on you anon?
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>>128581826
>what games have crashed on you anon?
In order, DDC right before going on to Stage 6. Kamui right before the ALLTYNEX fight and Samidare right after I got to the final phase of the final boss.

I didnt let that dissuade me but good god is it annoying.
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>>128581823
Reco is fairly kawaii
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>>128579674
>someone gave this moron a review copy
Why?
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>>128582130
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>>128580175
system11 got killed by /jp/ and Touhou memers trying to push their "touhou is best" agenda.
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>>128582149
Gotta spread the review copies out. Need to see if the complete, blithering idiot audience likes the game as much as the audience who can actually get two brain cells to acknowledge each other.
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>previous thread reached +200 post count in less than a day
>it dies afterwards
That was impressive, 2b honest.
If only we would organise ourselves and start doing the tournaments.
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>>128583213
The people who shitpost for free bumps used up all their good ammo in less than 24 hours I guess.
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>>128525046
There's Under Defeat HD and Ketsui like the man said and uh a bunch of PS1 ports that are on PSN as classics. Also Sine Moria off the top of my head, I think that's a shmup but I never got around to it. Some stuff from smaller developers too I guess?
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>>128585790
>Time to move back to /vr/, I suppose.
Unless you intend to make it, that thread's been dead for a day or so and hasn't been remade.

>Or post at the 8ch shmup thread
Meh. Not that I have website brand-loyalty or anything, but I don't much care for sites where people can make their own sub-forums.
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>>128583213
How could we organize tournaments? Use something like Google Forms for submitting scores and have people attach replay/input files off their run?
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>>128586627

From what I remember from participating in a system11 batrider tourney years ago it's basically a local scoreboard with a time limit. You kind of have to trust people on their scores. Asking for a replay or a screenshot is okay as long as it's easy to submit.
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how do you get the amber rush achievement in mushi? I know it's
>Fire at Nanabusshi and obtain a lot of amber. (Normal, Novice only)

but I don't know what nanabusshi is
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>>128588958
You know those plants in stage 2 that open up to shoot at you? When they're closed, shoot them from point blank.
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>Struggling this much against Knight Fossil
Man I am not feeling it today.
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>>128581823
Deathsmiles
Muchi Muchi Pork
Caladrius
and so on
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>>128589225
Happens to us all.

>walk into one of Killer Higia's bullets like an idiot
>get too close to Golden Ogre
>crash into a wall
etc
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>>128588958
>>128589079
Also, if you want to optimize, wait for the first option you get before the stage 1 boss to change to formation before grabbing it, then you can use your laser to hit two of them at once in the first half of the stage. This is only really useful in original mode though.
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>>128580175
It's still one of the best shmup forums, but yeah, they seem quite bored. It shines whenever a new port or game is announced though.
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What was your first ever 1cc?
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>>128589957
First and only is deathsmiles because it's piss easy
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>>128589957
Axelay.
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>>128589957
Time Crisis 2.
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>>128589225
It happens, unfortunately. Today I can't seem to get through any stage without taking at least one hit.
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>>128590441
>>128589552
Well, I guess in my defense it's worth noting that against Knight Fossil you have to actually dodge shit unlike with Iron and King but damn.

>>128589957
The ADH route in DariusBurst CS.
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>>128589957
Aegis Wing
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>>128589079
well shit anon, thanks. I was thinking it would be those flowers that shoot out a million little bugs in stage 4 or maybe something weird with the boss in stage 1 since so many people have the achievement
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>>128589957
Imperishable Night.
Took me like week of playing for 1 hour each day.
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I got two questions about Darius Gaiden and G-Darius, which I'm playing on the second Taito PS2 arcade collection:

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iVX8pLmULk#t=0m36s how do you get these power-ups to give you a good score? Is it random or what?

2. What is even the difference between easy mode and normal mode?
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>>128589957

KAMUI.
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>>128589957
thunderforce 3
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>>128591179
Also, while I'm at it - man, the art direction took a pretty big hit between G-Darius and Burst. Graphically it's a clear update, the dated resolution & poly counts in G are obvious... but the color use and environments in G are top-notch.

Gaiden also looks great but 2D ages better like 90% of the time so it's not really a fair comparison.
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>>128592526
To be fair however some of the Gaiden versions of the sprites are a downgrade - Great Thing looks too cartoonishly evil compared to this version and is missing other cool design elements.
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>>128589957
Either the PSP Darius Burst, or Jamestown? Can't recall which I did first.
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>>128592738
Prickly Angler is perfect though, I got no complaints. Bonus points for the trippy background.
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>>128588227
Screenshots should suffice. Although it would be cool if there were a site where you could upload the replays like that one for Touhou games.
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Fuck, level E in DBCS is ruining me.
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>>128593205
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>>128583213
It wouldn't be that hard to pull off, but what game would we start with?
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>>128593326
I understood that reference.
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>>128593326
Because I'm terrible and I keep letting the boss hit me.
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>Defeating Great Thing

>>128593495
>>128593205
Ancient Barrage is a fucking cunt, which ship are you using?
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>>128593790
I'm switching around now, but I had been using Gaiden the most.
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>Bosses are listed in decreasing order of difficulty
This is new

>>128593943
Try using the Next if you're having trouble getting through huge bullet sprays, it probably has the best defensive capabilities of any ship.
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>>128593425
either darius or mushi. more people seem to post about darius at the moment, so that'd probably be a safer bet
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>>128594053
I think that's the shot type I used to get my first ADH clear. I have a lot of trouble keeping the burst shot types straight.
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>>128595081

More people are posting about DBCS right now, but I'm pretty sure more people here have Mushi.
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I want a stick to play muh shmups. Anyone experienced with them?
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>>128593151
What is MARP?
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>>128593425
something free preferably
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>>128575597
Kinda gay 2bh. The scoring mechanics have more depth but it's just unsatisfying on a basic level and always feels like you're wasting time trying to overkill enemies.
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>>128597356
Final Boss then?
Cho Ren Sha 60k?
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Linking it again because it's awesome >>>/m/13670140
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>>128600076
And I'm posting it again.
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Gus playing 1.01 Ultra, get in here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf3jJ3YJ6YwrT8_9KUc8J5w/live
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>>128601327
I thought ab palm sucked in 1.01
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>>128601327
There's a slight echo and it's triggering the hell out of my autism.
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>Switch up from DBCS to dabble in Crimzon Clover again
>Want to go fast but the Type-III is too fast
I don't think I was meant to wield this power family
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>>128601327
He died ;_;
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>>128601327
>>128602704
GAAAH WHAT THE FUCK echoed ad infinitum is pretty funny.
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>>128602704
At least he got out of stage 1
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>>128602704
Again.
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>>128603381
And again
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さあ、出発だよ
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Oh shit, he dodged the 3-way
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Oh god, this stream.
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>FUCK fuck fuck
Jesus...
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It's over.
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>>128601327
man i was so proud when i 1cced normal mode id need 2 fucking grind that game for like 10 years straight 2 even survive level 1 ultra
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>>128606373
I managed to NMNB 1.5 past the midboss yesterday, was pretty pleased about that, but I have no idea what I'm doing for the second half of the stage, and only a vague idea for the first half.
If I ever play a Futari mode seriously though it's probably going to be God.
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During some play I noticed that the Murakumo might be the best ship to use for getting this achievement, to anyone that cares. I managed to destroy all of Mirage Castle's parts but one before it launched so I'll probably try it again later.
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Oh this shit definitely isn't happening
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Batsugun Special Version is the best stg of all time.
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Yesterday I lost another good run to this motherfucker.

3rd or 4th time in the last 7 days, I hate him!
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>>128581823

Space Invaders 1995
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>>128610924
>have to loop the game 3 times before the game finally becomes interesting/challenging
Yeah, no thanks.
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>Next Cave game ported to Steam will be DeathSmiles
I've never played it, is it any good? I was hoping for Dodonpachi or Ketsui or something
Also is there any Steam group or something so we can compare Mushi scores?
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>>128613850
probably their weakest series aside from akai katana and it only wins over that because of scoring system
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>>128613960
I was put off by the little chinese schoolgirls, plus I prefer verts. I'll probably still buy it on Steam though
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I'm loving Sora. What control scheme do you guys use? It feels like it's meant to be played on a controller with all those buttons.
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>Mushihimesama original
>game over near the end of the stage 4 boss
>maniac
>game over near the end of the stage 4 boss
>ultra
>make it all the way to the stage 5 midboss
Something's not right here, I just want to beat the fucking game.
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>>128618529
fuck stage 4
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>>128618691
The part with the segmented dragon enemies is the worst.
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>>128618924
It's not that bad once you learn a route through. The green bugs at the beginning are more nerve-wracking for me.
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>>128589957
2hu LLS
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>>128597356
What about the games in the OP?
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>>128618691
I hate that stage so much.
And I hate those segmented shits too.
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Friendly reminder that Cave-san needs your love, shmupg!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YvQ0BaDxIM
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>>128622927
>cave's C logo, cave's C logo everywhere
That's actually pretty decent. Is that a hitbox on her bow?
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>Dariusburst CS will never be available for a reasonable price or on a non-DRM platform

Feels bad, man.
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>>128623407
I wouldn't be surprised if the steam version gets hefty discounts given time

Such is the way of most things on steam.
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>>128622927
NO FLAMING BEES
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>The difficulty spike in stage 2 of Crimzon Clover
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>>128626721
>the entirety of the latter stages of CC
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>>128626721
>2
>hard
u wot

3 and 5 are the most annoying because they drag on too long and get pretty boring.
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>>128627705
2 is bearable but the difference between 1 and 2 is staggering. 3 onward is assfuckery.
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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/taito-hey

We Metal Black now.
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>>128627828
Honestly I didn't find any of CC to be hard outside of s4's boss, the final boss and especially the TLB's. The stages were fairly easy to map out routes for.
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What is a good first shmup game? I know they're difficult, but they look stupidly addicting. Any recommended ones on steam that aren't super pricey (like $30+)?

Sorry if this is a repeated question.
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>>128628470

I would reccomend Mushi because you can easily watch replays direcly from the client.
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>>128628470
Don't worry about picking a good first game, just try out a bunch and pick one you like enough to keep on playing.
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>>128628470
touhou games are pretty good for beginners, because they are very lenient with resources and have different difficulty settings
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>>128631624
Also they're real easy to find online so it's no biggie if you dont like them
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>>128628470
Go get Satazius.
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>>128631624
>>128628974
>>128628841
>>128632642

Cheers guys. Going to give them all a little look. Only heard of Touhou, looks pretty good.
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>>128615691
>What control scheme do you guys use
I use pic related. You could also try the AoS scheme:
https://boards.fireden.net/foolfuuka/boards/v/image/1452/69/1452691454500.jpg

I only used pads for this game, no idea how well you can play on keyboard, arcade stick, washing machine and so on.
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>>128569541
A few weeks
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>>128570707
I absolutely love it. Graphics are a bit simple, but the soundtracks are god-tier, and balance is perfect, and there's a bunch of difficulties make it suitable for anyone. The different modes change up the gameplay as well.
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What are everyone's favourite PS1 shmups? Know it wasn't the greatest console for them, but some real classics were ported to it. Thunder Force is still a great gem on it I thing. Plus the usually Einhander.
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>>128590404
Same desu
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What cabinet are you guys playing/unlocking on now that they doubled the number of them?
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How many shmups do you all think Kamiya has 1cc'd?

Shmup collaboration between Platinum Games and Cave FUCKING WHEN?
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>>128643093
>you will never get drunk and play on a darius cab with 3 other shmup autists
Why even live
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>>128589957
R-Type Delta on my PS1 when I was about 12 years old. That was the game that got me into shmups.
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>>128643743
you can get drunk and dual-monitor the game and play with 4 players. I don't see why I wouldn't want to live when that's an option
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>>128643884
in fact, posted in last thread. Just need to add the beer.
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>>128643983
Do you play using KB or pad or stick? If so, what pad or stick do you use?
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>>128644117
Stick, the original SF4 TE, so basically what the cabinet uses.
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>>128635784
So you don't use the lock on button either? I'm too lazy and cancelling is too fun to bother with it. Ended up going with the default controls, only changing the hyper to L1 and I did about the same as stick. Great game, can't wait to get out of baby mode, then finish up Suguri.
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twitch.tv matmousetwitch
SPS on DOJ
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>>128628134
Amazo's such a cool fight
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>>128643728
All Gradius games, definitely.
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>>128646538
Using the second ship, that's pretty cool.
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>>128647161
That's pretty normal in WL. It's got the smaller hitbox and a nice wide spread.
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>>128647436
Oh fuck, WL. I'd wondered what was up with the low amount of lives. Hardcore, man.
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Does "Say Papa" pop up at any point in Dariusburst CS mode?

If not, that's pretty shitty.
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>>128646538
Damn, dead and Hibachi was almost finished.
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Have you collected your bonus squid today, /shmupg/?
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>>128613850
It's fun and it doesn't require you to memorize lots of shit like other horizontal shooters.
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>>128628470
Touhou (except SA and LolK), Deathsmiles, Mushihimesama and pretty much every shooter with a novice/Xbox mode that was ported to 360 or PC.
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>>128653481
>Touhou (except SA and LolK)
Or UFO.
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>>128568162
I hate his final attack pattern. I can never tell what the fuck to do at that point since he keeps puking bullets at me.
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Don't you dare die on me shmupg
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>>128651292
What game is this
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>>128662627
rip
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>>128662627
>he never scored
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>>128662627
>scoring is for aspies
>t. shmupg
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>>128659249
Image search tells me it's Guxt.
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>>128665616
What the FUCK is this new t. meme?
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>>128667996
I'm sure it's a couple weeks old by now.
It's something like "signed by".
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>>128657824
On Arrange mode the most common strategy is to use strategically timed bombs to get inside the pattern and pointblank him. Then you move down right before the next wave appears and repeat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg6TIZ3nucQ
You can see it demonstrated here, but you can be even more aggressive and bomb just as the spawn point for the first wave has begun descending. Your invincibility frames will buy you enough time for the opening to appear in the middle and you can spend more time pointblanking him.

When you run out of bombs you kind of just have to try to dodge for as long as possible.


Ultra mode is more complicated. Most people use the easy strategy where you use timed suicides to scroll most of the pattern offscreen, but you can also use strategically timed bombs and positioning to manipulate the pattern into being the same thing every time, then you just have to memorize a way through. I've only actually seen this in action with the TGA-RET superplay but I started doing it in practice because I got bored with the first method. It requires very careful movement though because you only have a few pixels to work with during the first part of each wave. It's also easy to start shooting a little too early and trigger the return fire.
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>>128668872
What changes for Ultra, besides your shot being a bit less powerful?
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>>128669747
The first phase lasts longer and the bullets are faster, the second phase is much harder but you can skip it compeletely because he has no invulnerability after the first phase ends. The final attack is completely ridiculous and is designed so that you can only ever deal damage to Aki while you're dodging it, there's no time when Aki is vulnerable other than the beginning that you aren't completely surrounded by bullets. Or you can just cheese it with suicides.
>>128568162
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>>128668495
It's not new at all, I remember seeing it on kuvalauta back in the day.
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Aki is a cunt
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>>128667996
>>128668495
it's not new
it's from /int/ by way of finland so probably from the finnish chan like the other anon mentioned
it's short for terveiset which is finnish for regards or sincerely
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>>128657928
Is this from a shmup?
A shmup about goats maybe?
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>>128643983
I'm a bit jealous.
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This track is actually pretty damn good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lewVA-BlWJ4
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>>128682917
Most of the tracks are really good, and if you like FREEEDUMMMMMMM I'd say all of them are good.
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It's questions time to keep the thread alive.

What are you playing right now?
What's your favorite shmup and why?
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>>128683669
>What are you playing right now?
Switching between Mushi and DBCS.

>What's your favorite shmup and why?
Cho Ren Sha because it's fucking awesome.
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>>128683969
This, but G-Darius is my favorite for the music, art direction, and overall feel of the game. It's castratingly hard though.
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>>128683669
>What are you playing right now?
Actually I have no idea what to play.
Recommend me a shmup to play /shmupg/.
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>>128684140
RayForce
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>>128683969

Never heard of it but I'm new.
Can I play it on a modern pc?
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>>128685096
I don't know about Linux or iOS, but on Windows it works, you just need to run it in Win98 compatibility mode.
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>>128685245

Cool, I'll try to find a download.
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>>128685643
I don't normally spoonfeed, but CRS is good. http://www2.tky.3web.ne.jp/~yosshin/my_works/download.html
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>>128685643
You might need to turn on turbo keys or something, cause you have to constantly press the shoot button in Cho Ren Sha. It gets tiring after a while.
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>>128685978
>You might need to turn on turbo keys or something
Never thought of doing something like that. There a way you recommend?
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>>128645027
I forgot, the lock button is R2. R3 also works, but is more awkward.

Sometimes disabling lock by pressing the button twice altogether has its merits. Like when you try to snipe specific targets with the PULSEGUN.
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>>128686254
I dont know actually, I'm still hammering the Z key here.
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>>128685780

Thank you.
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>tfw want to buy alltynex trilogy and exceed 3rd on steam
>sale is over
>genre so obscure I can't even find a torrent

Feels bad man, I'm usually a pirate and I'm not gonna pay full price, even though they are cheap.

Next sale when?
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>>128688673
Kill yourself.
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>>128688673
Summer at the latest.
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>>128688920

'no'
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>>128688673
I can gift you RefleX. I bought it ages ago and have no idea what to do with it.
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>>128689359

>posting my steam id on 4chan
>letting anyone from 4chan know my id

Sorry but I'm paranoid.
Thank you anyway anon.
Gift it to one of your friends or something or find someone else in this thread.

I'll get the games at some point anyway, just gonna wait for a sale.
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>>128689857
You may be a little too paranoid, friend. I have quite a few friends on my list that are from various /v/ derivatives and I've yet to get whatever you think will happen to happen to me.
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>>128689857
that or just get your ass to doujingravity. The games are all there.
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>>128690224
>encouraging piracy of doujin games
You are the reason why this genre is dead.
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>>128690224

Thanks, but most links are dead ;_;
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>>128691042
>waaaah I can't pirate an obscure indie game!
You pirates are fucking scum. Just leave the thread already and end your life you waste of space.
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>>128690929
Indie sales are always the sign of a healthy genre
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>>128691485
Did a pirate touch you when you were a kid anon.
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>>128691485

Moralfag fuck off.

I don't like to pay for things I can get for free.
I keep my money to upgrade my pc and buy games for consoles I can't pirate.
I don't try to justify it or anything though. I just don't give a shit.
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>>128691485
I don't particularly condone piracy, but blowing a gasket (and on 4chan of all things) won't stop it.
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>>128691992
>haha look at how much of an edgy lil shit I am!
Fuck off back to /v/ you disgusting 3rd worlder.
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>>128683507
FREEEEEDOM is pretty dope so yeah

>>128692719
I don't agree with his practices but I respect his honesty.
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>>128693030
>I respect piracy of games in a genre that's barely on life support
Back to >>>/jp/ with you secondary fucks.
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>>128693158
No, I respect that he acknowledges that he's a piece of shit.
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>>128693158
You having a tiff on an anonymous image board isn't going to change how dead the genre is.
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>>128693391
It won't, but filthy secondaries like yourself not being alive might.
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>>128693519
>If the people who are still playing these games die, the genre will come back to life!
Regardless, I want you to re-evaluate your morals if someone telling you to calm down makes it okay for you to wish for their death.
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>>128692719
>>128693158

>getting this upset over someone pirating a game

Calm down friend.
There is no need to be upset.
I'm still going to pirate everything I can because I don't want to spend my money on software I can get for free, simple as that. There is nothing you can do about it.
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>>128678124
She's Muchi Muchi Pork stage 3 boss.
Maybe one day Degica will port it to steam after they're finished with more popular cave titles.
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>>128693861
>Maybe one day Degica will port it to steam after they're finished with more popular cave titties
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>>128687039
I didn't know about that, it will be helpful in the current stage i'm at, thanks.
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>>128693692
>>If the people who are still playing these games die, the genre will come back to life!
That implies you /jp/ fucks even play the games. All you fucking retards do is jerk off to porn of little girls like the sick pedo fucks you are. Not only would the shmup genre be better off without you, but the entire world.
>>128693821
>>>/jp/
>>>/v/
>>>/trash/
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>>128694112
lol
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>>128693929
Touché. And i'd be okay with that.
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>>128694112

>being this buttblasted

Be honest.
Are you from the /vr/ thread?
Please stay there.
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>What game do you think Degica will most likely port after Deathsmiles?

and

>What game do you wish they ported after it?
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>>128694782
>What game do you think Degica will most likely port after Deathsmiles?
SaiDaiOuJou or DaiFukkatsu

>What game do you wish they ported after it?
Ketsui, Feveron or DaiOuJou.
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this is why nobody likes shmups

the fanbase is full of sperglords
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>>128694774
Not him, but what /vr/ thread?
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>>128695089
It's just one guy, who I am almost sure is just pretending.
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>>128695089
You're in 4chan.
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>>128694782
>What game do you think Degica will most likely port after Deathsmiles?
Saidaioujou, Deathshekels II, DaiFukkatsu, Futari

>What game do you wish they ported after it?
Daioujou, Futari, Ketsui
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>>128694782


>What game do you think Degica will most likely port after Deathsmiles?

SDOJ

>What game do you wish they ported after it?

Ketsui
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>>128695323
There's spergs on system11 aswell.
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>>128694112
Piracy is a much better alternative than using shitty services like Steam that inject harmful DRM into the games you rent from them.
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>>128695135

There's a shitty shmup general on /vr/ as well.
I suspect most anime-hating spergs like him come from there.

At least his autism keeps the thread alive.
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>>128696398
>There's a shitty shmup general on /vr/ as well
That's what I mean, last /vr/ thread died a few days ago. Closest on /vr/ right now is "old Japanese computer games".
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>>128696652
>last /vr/ thread died a few days ago

Fuck, that must mean the spergs come here now.
We are not safe.
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>>128697008
PREPARE YOUR ANUS.
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>>128695845
Full of score players and collectors. What did you expect?
Besides, these games are designed by and for obsessive players, not normal people.
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>>128694782
>What game do you think Degica will most likely port after Deathsmiles?
DOJ or SDOJ

>What game do you wish they ported after it?
Mushihimesama Futari
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>>128698251
Most normal people don't give a flying fuck about shmups because they either always credit-feed or are unwilling to play countless of times an unforgiving half an hour game that they can't use to brag to their IRL faggot friends.
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>>128699340

>tfw I love shmups and I still credit feed

I-I'm new though.
I'll get better, right?
Right guys? ;_;
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>>128699761
A lot of Japanese arcade players credit feed to learn a new game, it's only bad if you're just fucking around without actually trying to improve.
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>>128699761
We all started somewhere anon.
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>>128699761
Won't get better by not playing
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Why aren't there any shmups with as good of lore as Touhou? Most of these games don't have any likable characters or interesting plots, which is a shame.
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>>128700430

>wanting plot in shmups

pls go and stay go
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>>128700430
Progear?
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>>128700430
It exists, it's just usually delegated to manuals.
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>>128699761
It's okay as long as you eventually stop credit-feeding it, otherwise you'll never get to appreciate the game's challenge and thus get bored and stop playing it in short notice.

That's the main problem with credit-feeding. It gives people an empty or extremely shallow victory and makes them believe they're done with the game, thus killing 99% of the fun they could have with it.
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>>128700520
>not wanting the genre to progress
Arcades died for a reason, you know.
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>>128700430
Because the developers are lazy when it comes to putting some plot in their games, even for arcade standards.

Fucking beat'em ups have more a story.
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What exactly does the babby mode in crimzon clover and mushihimesama do? It doesn't say.
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>>128701439
Fewer, slower bullets.
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>>128701498

Cool, then I should probably start with that.
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Besides shmups what games do you play, shmupg?

Fightans and jrpgs here.
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>>128702532
Roguelikes, rpgs of all sorts and however the hell you describe shit like the Ninja Gaiden reboots and DMC.
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>>128702532

Literally everything.
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>>128702532
I only play shmups
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>>128702532
Fighting and rhythm mostly
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>>128702532
Fighting games, RPGs, the usual shit really.
I've all but quit playing MOBAs and god damn do I feel so much better.
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>>128702792
How boring.
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>>128704059
Yeah, that's what I think about most games.
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>>128702532
Used to play FPSs a lot, sometimes I play RPGs, RTSs or anything like Metal Slug.
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>>128700534
I like progear a lot, but can't really play it because I suck at it.
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>>128703953

>tfw playing wc3dota + dota2 for 8 years
>tfw finally quit due to cancerous playerbase

As a br you naturally grow a thick skin against retards but holy shit, dota2 nowadays is just a rage simulator. Even CSGO is a pile of shit.

I blame esports.
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>>128705961
Keep trying it and eventually you'll be a pro.
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>>128706060
What shmups do you play, my brazilian friend?
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>>128706060

I quit mobas right when I started because of the abuse. I'm glad I did. Fuck them and their autistic toxic fanbase.
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>>128694782
>What game do you think Degica will most likely port after Deathsmiles?
No idea, because when DS came out I wasn't actually expecting that, since degifag blackbird said cave's new port was based on users' feedback.

>What game do you wish they ported after it?
Ketsui, ketsui, ketsui, sdoj, doj or futari.
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>>128706060
I'm not really bothered much by others' insults, and I hate League of Legends in part for its tattletale culture. The biggest problems I have with League beyond that is me lacking the motivation to improve (I can accept that I suck but the game is not compelling enough for me to want to improve or continue playing) and the fact that I'm not much of a team player in the first place. I actually had a fair amount of success with DotA2, I just don't think the game is all that fun for a number of other reasons that affect mobas as a whole.
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>>128702532

A litle bit of everything. With a lot of Dota in between.

Yes, I'm a masochist.
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>>128702532
Wow, there are a lot of Dota scrubs in here. I did 2000 hours of that shit and got to 5.5k 1-2 years ago, then quit some time later. No regrets, that game drove me mad.

I mostly do shmups and fun, more casual games like Mario and Pokémon these days.
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While we're on the subject of other games, do you guys play beat em ups? I fucking love them.

I just like arcade games in general I guess.
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>>128696183
>le Steam is bad meme
Back to >>>/v/ you fucking moron. Only reason you hate Steam is because it makes it harder for dipshits like you to steal from needy developers. Can't wait for the day that everyone starts using Denuvo so you kids will get fucked.
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>>128710160

>the sperg is back

Please, fuck off.
That conversation is over.
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>>128710160
Actually Steam lets it be even easier to pirate since its DRM is easy to crack day-1.

>needy developers
I had a giggle. You make it sound like a charity, when most devs make games for themselves.
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>>128710160
uh no steam is harmful for other reasons outside of pirating

please educate yourself
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html

if they had an approach like GoG, they'd be better, even though i don't like the people that run gog because they false advertise witcher 3 and censored various games like hatred
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>>128711374
There's literally nothing wrong with Steam if you aren't a pirating piece of shit. Kill yourself already you fucking scum.
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>>128707032

Only casual runs on Ikaruga because I'm busy playing Neptunia.
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>go to system11
>legit autists arguing about moe and steam

>go to shmupg
>legit retards arguing about moe and steam
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>>128713007
Likely some users from both.

You better tell me the sauce on that.
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>>128713161
Just look up "elf", "Sword_Art_Online" and "bukkake"
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>>128713283
Thanks. Also I'm fairly certain it's just one retard complaining about Steam, and surely people on 4chan aren't actually upset about animu.
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Cave-san~!
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>>128715197
Where's the drip?
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>>128715197
Which one is that from? Mk2?
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>>128694782
>>What game do you think Degica will most likely port after Deathsmiles?
Mushihimesama Futari
>and
>>What game do you wish they ported after it?
Muchi Muchi Pork, Espgaluda, ESPrade
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Honest question,

How long does it take you to 1cc a shmup on average?

From the minute you start the game for the first time to the moment you finish your 1cc run, how long does it take?

I'm curious because I've never tried to 1cc a game before.

I am currently trying to 1cc Metal Slug 3. I've done 3 entire playthroughs of the game now with plenty of deaths in between. How long until I can 1cc it?
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>>128717534
Depends on how seriously I take it. If I hunker down and focus my efforts on one game, it takes roughly a week or two for "normal" or "hard" 1ccs. Otherwise it takes about a month or two.
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>>128717534
That depends on the game. Some games might take days, some weeks, some months and some might even take years. My longest 1cc took me around 2 years of somewhat casual play and I did my fastest 1cc in a single day.
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>>128681356
The monitors aren't particularly expensive. ~$140 each on Amazon. They only have 10ms lag and look great, no glare plus IPS for better viewing angles, perfect for TATE setups. If you're super crazy you can debezel them to cut down on the space in between them, but it doesn't bother me.
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>>128717534
How long is a piece of string?
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Cave-san doing cute things!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U33o47SW1_U
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Cave-san showing off cute outfits!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngEM3kCvA0Q
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>>128718379
>>128719602
If only Neptunia wasnt such a bad series.
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>>128702532
Hack n' slashs, beat'em ups, fighting games, third person shooters and a couple jrpgs.
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>>128717534
>How long does it take you to 1cc a shmup on average?
There is no "average" since it heavily depends on how hard and long the game is and the player's prior experience with shmups like it.

Some are a walk in the park while others are a massive pain in the ass, with big middleground since each shmup has its own gimmick or particularity that differenciates it from the rest.
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>>128702532
I play Ikaruga exclusively.
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>>128728616
Are you good at it?
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How's that 1cc going /shmupg/? Ya getting there?
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>>128702532
Well, right now I'm playing Guilty Gear Xrd and trying to practice my Ky combos and punishes so that I don't get steamrolled during my upcoming local meetup.

I'm also trying to git gud at Greatsword on MH4U. Sniping with that weapon is a hard climb, but oh so satisfying when done right.
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>>128733027
>Want to play more Xrd
>Can't get constant 60 FPS even with tweaks
I just mash with a friend though, I still have fun on 45-55 on average. I play Potemkin.
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>>128711738
You know Gabe Newell's gone on record to say he is fine with pirating, right?

Why do you approve of a service whose CEO thinks pirating is not unethical?
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>>128713007
>going to message boards like sys11 at all
You're also part of the cancer.
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Does Mushihimesama maniac make you fight the TLB?
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>>128737360
No, just Ultra/arrange
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>When you get tired of getting shit on in CS mode and just pick Second Silver-Hawk and jack it up with upgrades

Also
>Splinter Twin and Summer Bloom banned in Modern
Ayy lmao
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>>128710160
>he thinks Steam/DRM in general prevents piracy
MY FUCKING SIDES
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SPS playing DOJWL on matmousetwitch

Just got to 2-1
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>>128691042
>links are dead
oh well. Try doujinstyle.
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>>128683669
I'm rotating between mushi, strania and ikaruga. getting close to a 100% in mushi arrange - no idea if I'll be able to 120%, failing very badly at strania and ikaruga with the third stage of both of them actually

oh man a favorite is tough. I think in the hunt is dope for a lot of the same reasons I like metal slug unsurprisingly. futari has probably left the strongest impression on me though

>>128700430
sine mora has an interesting and fleshed out story

>>128702532
strategy games and arpgs. I have more hours in crusader kings 2 than any other game
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>he doesn't play for score
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Is there even one shmup with a better cast?
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>>128702532
RPGs, Platformers, Metroidvanias, some puzzle games and adventure games.
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>>128750616
>Is there even one shmup with a better cast?
Hellsinker, because it respects my gender.
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Is DOJ White Label more popular than Black Label in Japan? Every stream I have seen of it is always WL.
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BOOM!
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>>128752170
Where did you find that picture anon?
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>>128758593
tvtropes
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>>128753336
The second loop is harder, maybe it's more prestigious or something.
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>>128753336
I'm pretty curious about this as well. You'd have to ask some actual Japanese players about it.

Overall I still prefer WL over BL. It would be cool seeing more people play it seriously.
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ded
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>>128750616
>wants to destroy humanity
>sends one of his men to wipe out his humanity-destroying army
I dond ged idd :DD
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Reactions on the radar
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>buy dariusburst
>realize it has the steam DRM so i cant carry it around on flash drive and play at a friends house
>get a crack
>memory related error
god damnit

>>128769840
Recognized code CC30.
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>>128760159
dat 2-1 tho
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>>128769927
Distance 12000 DAL
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>>128774130
Third and fourth thrust engines, ignition!
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The bane of my fucking existence
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Ketsui has a pretty neat soundtrack, I should play that game more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1_UojtCHko
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>>128694782
Anybody think one of the ESPGaludas would be a possibility?
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>>128778869
The second one because it has a X360 version (less time needed/easier to port to PC).
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>>128717534
Try to 1CC Metal Slug 1 or X first if you haven't, the last level of 3 is a real cunt
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>>128779498
What about games like Dangun Feveron or ESPRade that never had home ports? Is there pretty much zero chance of them ever being on Steam?
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>>128779865
Probably if it's possible to transfer the game from a PCB. Source code would also help a lot.
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Damn /vg/ is fast today
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>>128784016
Maybe everyone is too busy playing shmups to post here, right?
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>>128776069
Main engine energy level, 20% increase.
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So Raiden IV is pretty good, shame it sold about 12 copies on Steam
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>>128787095

If I remember correctly someone in this general said it was a shitty port, is it true?
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>>128788691
I haven't had any problems with it. Are you thinking of Raiden III? Thats meant to be a bad port
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>>128788985

Probably, my memory is shit.
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>>128788691
its pretty bad imo

it doesn't even support most resolutions, it looks aliased as fuck and controller support is spotty
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How do you keep from getting bored with practice and frustrated with actual runs, then getting burned out and not feel like playing?
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>>128791808
Take breaks, listen to podcasts or whatever while practicing
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Play for an hour or two in one day, take breaks and do some variety in your playtime (one day play for survival, second day for scoring, other day for experimenting etc.). Also, play games from other genres once in a while or do something else instead of playing shmups.
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>>128794432
meant for
>>128791808
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>>128732167
I made a clear of EoSD on Lunatic today. I see now what they mean by "Touhou isn't difficult." There are so many resources that I got my 1cc even after dying four times with bombs in stock. I'm happy that I'm now a "Lunatic player", but I also hope to move on to real shmups eventually. I've been practicing in Dodonpachi under MAME, I'm liking it a lot.
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>>128687105
I haven't tried but auto hotkey should work.
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>>128718379
Which DLC is this? Can't find it on Steam
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I just 1cced normal/original mushihimesama. Should I bother playing 1.5 as well if I am not bothering with score (I suck too much)? Otherwise I plan to attempt to clear normal/maniac.
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>>128802963
Why don't you try it and see if it is to your liking.
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>>128802963
Try it out, if you don't like it then just go back to what you were doing. It's not like you have anything to lose.
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>>128778869
>wanting a shmup with green haired faggots
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>>128791808
Taking the only a couple tries per day approach. Also playing other games.
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>>128807754
ded slut
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>>128809226
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How do people get these fucking ridiculous scores?
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>>128810204
Is there not a replay function in this game?
When single people have a much bigger score than anyone else, it mostly means they are just hackers.
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>>128786682
Definitely
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>>128802963
I think 1.5 is much more fun desu, I'm just doing 1.0 because I'm an achievement whore.
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>>128810597
There isn't, but as you can see, I'm ranked 229, and the score just gradually increases more and more. Maybe I'm just shit, I don't know.
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>>128813726
No miss the popcorn.
Milk the bosses. It's easy you just need to destroy their parts one by one.
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>>128816273
What parts of Violent Ruler are even breakable? It just looks like one big hitbox and the fight is kind of chaotic in general.
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Should I play Ikaruga on normal or hard?
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>>128821698
Normal, gotta lube up first
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>>128822848

I mean for score runs. I already played enough.
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>>128822848
Oh

Challenge yourself then
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>>128821698
I don't know about puzzle games, my friend.
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>>128791808
Don't force yourself to do runs. Just play a dozen credits spread over the day or have 1 or 2 sessions. Spreading practice time out over the day is also a good way to get better without getting tired of the game, an hour of practicing isn't as intimidating when you do 4 x 15 minutes.
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>>128796540
Touhou is still pretty difficult. Just not as difficult as lots of other shmups. It honestly depends on how you compare games with each other.

For example if I used a scale of 1 to 10 and I would rank SPS' route in DOJ and getting a 2-ALL with 2.1b+ score as a 10.

Then not even a Psikyo 2-ALL would rank as a 3 on that scale. A Touhou lunatic 1cc might be around 1.3 or something and a generic Ketsui Ura 2-ALL would be around 4.5.

The difficulty of most modern games is so negligible, they wouldn't even leave the 1 zone.

Opinions and stuff man.
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>>128791808
What the others said. Play as frequently as possible while staying fresh and avoiding fatigue. If you're tired or no longer playing at your best, stop to play another time. Have other hobbies and do side games for a while when you're slumping.
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>tfw keep missing superplayer streams
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>dariusburst doesn't support 2560x1080 monitors

\wew
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Apparently Mushi is one of the games being played at Wasshoi at the end of the month. It probably won't be as insane as fufufu's DOJ run last year unless someone does a no miss Ultra or a 2 billion maniac or something like that.
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Hello /shmupg/, I'm terrible at shmups.
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>>128843259
Welcome to the party.
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>>128843259

Me too but I just started.
Right now I'm just trying to play all the arcade games once to see which ones I like.
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>>128843259
You'll fit right in.
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>>128843259
The struggle never ends
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>>128613850
would being in the same group show scores in game, or would we all have to friend each other? I don't usually care about high scores, but I do enjoy competing against friends.
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>>128844581
Step 1: Start a /shmupg/ group
Step 2: Friend everyone who joins said group
Step 3: Set game Leaderboards to Friends
Step 4: Score.
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Does it annoy anyone else that the ship moves faster diagonally in some games? I find it pretty off putting honestly and it really messes me up.
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>>128845035
Specific example(s)?
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>>128844881
well yeah I know you could do that, I was just curious if there was some magic where we wouldn't have to add 50 people and if the scores would show up just because we were in a group together

also it really annoys me how when you set mushi to friends only score it doesn't show your score

what's the point. I want to compare myself to my friends, not my other friends to each other
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>>128845068
Ikaruga has it.
Also the NES port of Gradius but at least that one can be excused by technical limitations.
I'm not too well versed into shmups so I can't think of any other.
Just makes the game feel a bit awkward to play and it takes time to get used too when switching games.
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>>128844881
>Being a shitheaded shitter with poopoo scores
I will do it.
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>>128824291
If you want really good score runs, then play Double Play. You can get the biggest scores with this. It's confusing as fuck though.
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>>128787003
I always wanted a thing called tuna sashimi
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>>128769840
>>128769927
>>128774130
>>128776069
>>128787003
>>128853068
Thank you, I was wondering what all of the words were
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>yfw Odin Sphere Leifthrasir gets a STG section that is bretty gud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibvm9CFQgMs
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>>128854432
I should really check out the demo of this
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SPS is streaming again!
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Here's how we're going to make STG great again:

>grab a bunch of dedicated streamers and make a show about the games

Already done. Now we have 3 ways to reach the gaming community and drop this cult status:

>approach the speedrunning community and convince them to host score tourneys on their events.

This is the easiest way. Problem is, speedrunning community is majority consisted by autistic white kids with deep sexual issues so we may bring third wave feminism/SJW drama to our games.

>approach the fighting game community and convince them to host score tourneys on their events.

This is hard because fightans community is very reclusive and play fighting games only. Also shmups lacks "hype" so it may be hard to convince the negroes that the game is good. Good thing about it is that we may see japanese superplayers more often.

>create our own community by merging with another cult game (OSU/rhythm games for example)

This is risky and not really viable because we're dealing with autistic neet weeaboos here, however is the fastest way to achieve the 3rd step which is

>drop the second class citizen status and start creating our own tourneys

There you go! Of course we need someone with both money and time to work on that, so convincing one of those system11 overlords may be a start.

>>128844881

That's an awesome idea and I don't know why nobody did that yet. We can force newbies to play for score and even weed out the "steam is bad because DRM" memers.
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>>128859313
Someone did an Ikaruga TAS at SGDQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om9SphYRzR8
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>>128860837

>TAS
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>>128862462
There was also a DOJ 1-ALL on a GDQ bonus stream some years ago.

But STGs refused to resurrect...
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here it is

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/shmupg
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https://youtu.be/h3q76Qxa7jk?t=1h38m25s
that FHP holy shit
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>>128862923
just a thought, could the anon who starts the next thread make sure to put the link in the OP?
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>>128862923

Most of those games listed doesn't even have steam leaderboards.

Just stick with Mushi, Alltynex Second and maybe a third one.
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>>128862923
You could just compete in the top10 on Steam leaderboards.

There aren't more than 1-2 players on any of the games in the first place, aside from maybe Mushi.
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>>128867153
done and done
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>>128867331
I wouldn't have made the group if there weren't a few people interested, and there were.
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>>128862923