/dsg/ Dark/Demon's Souls General

des sucks

i really like it when rhea insulted me.

i want her to step on me.

>>121538123
ds2*

>>121538123
your mum sucks, I don't complain

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Have you been having fun with friends?

>>121537936
I completely disagree.

FaP extends the one-shot area far past where it would normally be, I don't think I got one-shot by anything in the game.

It also gives you increased weight and stamina, both things you don't really have access to at SL1.

I was reluctant to use it in my playthough, but after I popped it on I had a much easier time.
DWGR gives you a few extra frames if you dodge, FaP gives you a chance to survive the attack if you miss the dodge.

>>121538284
des

FC Cath Blue, need host with warmth!

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>>121538475
>You will never co-op with Snoop Dog or Darth Maul

>>121538484
because it's not normal to get one shot by anything in ds1 even if you are playing at low level

>>121538554
ds2

>>121537881
wow who is this sexy beast?

>>121538475
Wanna do some fight clubbing while we wait for Snoop?

>>121519918
"inb4" does not serve as a substitute for a tenable argument.

>>121538753
Have you ever seen bosses?
O&S AoE is a one hit without FaP
Nito's AoE
Demon firesage AoE
Taurus demons
Centipedes
most of bed of chaos' attacks
there's more

3 frames is not enough of a difference to risk dying to those attacks

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fuckin casuals

>>121538854
it's me

>>121538276
nhnggg

>>121539060
are you sl1 or what
none of these things are 1 hit kill

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>>121538732
It's not all chocolates and roses

>>121539279
The whole point of the FaP suggestion was for a SL1 build

We're talking about SL1

>>121538484
>>121538753
I'm doing an SL1 run right now an FaP is a godsend
The only downside is that I'd rather have Havel's than FaP for 4kings but I'm stuck with it

>>121539236
wow you're a sexy beast

How do I have fun? I want to play dark souls but I also would like to have fun

>>121539552
define "fun"

SL1 is fun for me but it would be hell for some of my friends.

>>121539465
don't play with my heart pls

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>do blighttown
>now I have to leave blighttown
>ohfuckingboyherewego.png
>first attempt up elevator, get inexplicably sucked down the crack between the top of the elevator and the platform
>grab souls, make it up the elevator, and die immediately to a dog combo (fire machine gun damages me like the hellkite drake's, and a bite to finish me)
>respawn with sadness in my heart because i know with clear and distinct certainty that the game will force me to lose my 60k souls trying to get pas the elevator
>Lo and behold, get sucked down the crack again

seriously fuck this game sometimes. How do you reliably get off the top of the blighttown elevator? Leaving blighttown is the only difficult part of the level, I don't know why anyone complains about any other part.

>>121539387
my last soul related run was a sl7 wanderer run, i got tired of using clubs.
It was much cooler than sl1 run because you aren't stuck to clubs.

>>121539552
holy fucking shit mate. have you tried not being a bitch? fucking hell.

>>121539785
You don't. The blighttown elevator is a buggy piece of shitty and that whole path upwards is a deathtrap of bad collision

>>121538971
Hollow Shield and Balder Shield are both better, but they're semi-rare enemy drops
If you go back the the Asylum, you can kill hollow Oscar for the Crest Shield
If you go to the Valley of Drakes, you can find an Undead Dragon miniboss guarding the Dragon Crest Shield

Again, it's not a big deal at all
Knight Shield just bothers me personally because it weighs 5.5
I usually prioritize finding one of those above shields so I don't need to use it.

>>121539809
I don't use clubs at SL1
I'm using a Battle Axe

>>121539785
listen
get on
if you walked straight on go to the top right corner, furthest and rightest from the platform
ride up and walk forward up and off the right side

>>121539785
I've never had trouble with the elevator there

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>>121539327

>>121539679
fuck me

>>121540016
>>121538971
Oh, and the Spider Shield is better than the Knight Shield anyway
Unless you've invested upgrades in the Knight Shield, of course

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>>121540119
>no poison gushing from the cut off tail
shame that'd make things interesting

>>121540160
I like you

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>>121540070

so walk, don't roll, from the side of the elevator paddle that closest to the cliff? Alright, I'll give it a shot.

>>121540090

Neither does my friend, I think in only one of my playthroughs out of 10+ I've manage to not die to it.

>>121539932
for real m8

>>121540119
>guy fieri
>snoop dogg
why did you summon these people

>>121540716
it's the hardest boss in the game, but walking forward off the right side onto the beams has always worked for me

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>>121540721
If you look closely, you'll notice we're intentionally co-oping through the game

>>121540721
weed then shitty food? sounds good to me.

>>121540983
What do you use to record these?

>>121541038
every day

I'm having trouble with Sen's Fortress

is there a map or something I can look at that isn't convoluted as fuck?

>>121541189
Shadowplay. I use it for webms mostly.
For actual recordings and/or streaming I would recommend OBS

>>121541557
what part I know the place by heart

>>121541567
Just burn an ascetic

>>121541567
looks like somebody tried to stick an apple watch on their deformed ankle

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>>121540840

I'm 2 for 2 on successful elevator dismounts now, thanks for the advice anon.

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Y'know, sometimes it's pretty fun to go back to the burg and crush hollows. Nice way to unwind for a little bit.

>>121539650
I like big damage

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>>121543689
I like this one of Tarkus and Beatrice in the TotG, even if it makes no sense.

>>121544229
I'm having fun with my "Smough Souls" run
I CE'd in enough souls to use Smough's gear and 2h the hammer, and the challenge is in the slow attack speed but huge damage, only allowed to use the hammer.

>>121543689
Menas is a bad artist tho

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>fuck up a deathless run in scholar because i tried to cheese dragonrider

>>121543689
you're still obvious autismanon

>>121544647
At least you failed early.
There's nothing worse than rolling off a ledge in the shrine of amana on a no-death run.

>>121544974
>and the prices for commissions

That he charges a lot doesn't mean anyone's buying.

>>121544974
>commissions = good
I've seen artists who draw as shitty as me(a person who very rarely draws) with commissions.

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Emerald Herald is a cute. Prove me wrong

>SL1
>4kings at a sliver of health
>try walking to the last one instead of running, so I can preserve stamina and kill it immediately
>magic projectile hits me
>I immediately try to heal
>because I was walking instead of running, I'm still in perfect range for its sword attack to kill me while I'm chugging
It was my own fault
but that really stings
SL1 is really fun though, glad I tried it

>>121545289
yeah. on a website where everyone is shit, he's garbage. what an achievement.

>>121545450
Unlucky man, good stuff though. Now apply that to life.

>>121545591
I'm not going to pretend they don't exist just because one autist throws a fit about them

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>>121545395

>>121545289
>he made a shitton
>Now shut your whore mouth

CaIm down, Menas. You'II find a way to make rent this month somehow!

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>>121546105
this guy's art is awesome

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This is what the DaS3 Greatsword "guts mode" should've been like

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>>121546450
>>121546450
sure

>>121546740
https://gaming.youtube.com/user/photikx3/live should be live in few minutes, playing from the start

>>121547085
why do you feel the need to announce this degeneracy

>>121547173
Sorry

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>>121543689

>get to old king doran
>he does magic damage
>whip out the silver shield
>blocks, but leaves me with little stamina
>low health, desperation kicks in
>parry him and riposte with +5 dragon bone smasher
>136 HP

And that's the story of how I finished him off with death cloud and a single arrow to the dick.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT
I got parried by a summon, and both the summon and the host did a riposte at the same time, instantly killing me

I didn't even know that was possible.

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>>121543689

I just saw that I have 18 hours in Dark Souls and I've only killed the bell gargoyles and the capra demon.
How bad am I?
Also lost 6k souls and a humanity (of which I've never been able to use a free one yet) to fucking curse frogs. I'm mad. I didn't even know that's what they were doing. But I fell down a God damn pit and 4 of them ganged up on me.

>>121548076
I would pay per-release price and buy the console for that game.
Paper Mario NPC humor must be included.

>>121548121
You're right on track, buddy.

>>121548257
Oh good.
I thought I might have fucked up picking knight since I got a handle on parrying now.

>>121548076
They even threw eggheads and stuff into the crowd
neat

>>121548425
Parrying is a high level strat
fish for backstabs too

>>121548249
I would buy a NX if IS made a paper souls, all they have to do is ask Fromsoft for permission and develop the game.

>>121548425
Class doesn't matter much, don't worry about it.
I do recommend keeping on with parry, the sooner you learn, the more rewarding it is.

>>121540983
>dodging on the right when the Sentinel does its big swipe

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>a bunch of posts deleted
Did I miss something special or

>>121550205
>Autismanon posts

Happens aII the time

I destroyed the illusion at Anor Londo are all the sliver knights gone?

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Demons Souls SL 110 desperately farming PBS
I've been at it for 5 hours, PBWT, 4-2 BP skele farming.
I will dupe whatever the fuck and will also dupe the PBS to give to other people. For the love of god, can someone give me a PBS?

>>121550678
No. If I remeber correctly, the ones inside the castle near the second bonfire (the Solaire one) should still spawn.

>>121550678
all those tits are gone, that's for sure

>Biorr gets me past the blue dragon
>I can lock on, begin to fire arrows indiscriminately
>dragon stops blowing fire
>fear for the worst
>dragon dies just seconds later
>run down the stairs
>don't see a corpse, but don't see him
>wonder if he walked away like ostrava used to
>get to one item
>get his armor and presumably his ring

I'm going to carry this weight, /dsg/.

>>121552264
>presumably his ring
yeah, there are two rings of great strength
one belonged to Vallarfax and the other to Biorr
the one you get in 1-1 was Vallarfax's, while Biorr still had his equipped until you let him die

>>121552686
>until you let him die

pls

>>121546652
>they could have put stuff like this in the base game

Hosting invades darkroot garden lvl 125

>>121547537
In 3's network test you could backstab two or more people at the same time

>tfw no special shishkebabing animation for pulling this off with a spear

getting a shit load of failed invades as host in DaS right now, anyone know what might be causing this?

fog starts as if im being invaded but doesnt connect the phantom

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Whens the best time to do the DLC for Dark Souls 1? I'm Level 64 and just beat O&S

>>121550745
>>121550745
halp ;_;

>>121554761
That should be the last thing you do, the DLC bosses are really hard.

Besides looking cool, is the obsidian greatsword any good? I haven't grabbed it yet but I can make it work with my current stats

>>121555324
There are a lot of better options, but it's still a good weapon.

But then, that can be said about almost any weapon, it usually comes down to your skill with it and not how good the weapon is.

Also, special weapons are really fun to use when you know how to.

>>121555183
Only DLC boss that ends up ever giving me trouble is Manus. Fuck that guy

>>121556048
Same here. I usually have some trouble from time to time with him and Kalameet, they're some of the few bosses with undodgeable attack sequences, and that doesn't end very well in higher NGs.

>>121556656
Kalameet as well, forgot about him. Not a fun guy to fight and doesnt really give much of a reward for it either.

>>121555324
It's a specific weapon for buff builds or vit gouges.
It's a slow type greatsword with standard range, and a pretty good 2hr2 explosion.

>>121555324
great for buff builds

>>121556048
I've just plain never beaten Manus in anything past new game.

>>121558414
I tried to fight him several times and got my ass beat every time, so I just ended up sniping him with the sniper crossbow

>>121545395
You can't prove, or disprove an opinion, silly.
I like Maiden in Black desu, the real OG.

>>121544201
What is that sheathed sword? Estoc?

>>121559941
Looks like silver knight straight sword.

>Tfw farming for mad warrior set
I just want to get the predictor looking mask ;_;

Wait so is there a FC going on ?

>>121560381
>tfw I ended up asking an invader if he could just fucking give me the mask
>tfw he did it Then killed me anyway

>>121560996
I only just got the armor.. I'm starting to think he only drops a piece per NG...

What's the best new player gift for Dark Souls?
I know I can ask google but I want your guys' opinion. The master key seemed nice and all but I haven't gotten much use out of it yet and there seems to be some story stuff I'm missing on.

>>121560516
no

>>121561402
pendant or nothing

>>121561469
You get stuff for nothing?

>>121561402
master key is the best, since it gives you quick access to the grass crest shield and havel ring, and also lets you skip the depths + most of blighttown.

>>121561402
pendant or old witch's ring. because talking to the fair lady ASAP to ease her suffering.

>>121561402
Master key is really useful if you know your way around the game. Firebombs are an useful item all around and you can get the demon's great hammer with it. Other than that, they don't really make a difference.

>>121561402
Only the master key has any use but I wouldn't recommend it on your first playthrough. You can get all the gifts through out the game, so pick anything you'd like.

>>121561402
old witches ring or pendant. master key just removes some content from the game.

>>121561551
If only I knew what part of the depths I would have skipped. I have a habit of turning around and going back the other way in a fork if I get too far in one direction and start seeing more forks. I still don't have a good mental map of that area.

>>121562427
It starts you off from the exit to blighttown(the door in new londo).

So who is the NPC that you hate the most in any souls game?

when you summon a friend in dark souls 1 can you actually progress the game together or how does it work?

>>121565718
you progress through the area until either you die, he dies, or you kill the boss of the area at which point he is sent back to his world

>killed well over 30 dickwraiths with golden serpent and 10 humanity
>still not a single drop

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What happened to Cute Souls?

>>121550205
>Did I miss something special or

Just the 4kings/Menas shitposter. It's literally one guy doing all of it.

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>>121565485
Any NPC that needs a stat requirement to talk to.

>>121567334
delete this

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>>121568017

2cute4u?

>>121568236
it's not lore friendly.

>>121568257

I like to think their lives were better when they were younger.

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On PC, is it too late to ever be able to legitimately get the covenant rewards that involve PVP?

>>121568485
no?
Online still works fine
The playerbase isn't massive but it's still there
It helps that it migrated from GFWL to Steamworks a year ago, and that so many people were disappointed with DaS2

>>121568485

Forest and Darkwraith still work fine. Darkmoon is possible to do in a reasonable amount if you don't get discouraged by FAILED TO INVADE. Dragon and Gravelord are probably the least active but still doable.

http://strawpoll.me/5942004

>>121570152
what exactly are you asking

>>121569253

That sort of shit has been around since Demon's Souls.

I don't know why people think it'll ever go away.

It didn't go away in Dark Souls. Didn't go away in Dark Souls 2. Didn't go away in Bloodborne. It is not going away in Dark Souls 3.

If you want this shit to go away, have From make a LAN mode.

ded gem
ded gen

>>121570367
>title is what do
Obviously asking what area should be implemented in ds3

>>121539387
FAP is not good for SL1 runs other then NG+0.
After NG+1 it's useless and it's much better to use DWGR + hornet for levels and RTSR for bosses.

t. SL1 NG+7 fresh start doer

>>121571929
>other then NG+0
if you're carrying it into NG+ you can just unequip it anyway
i'm pretty sure that convo was about first-time SL1 NG players and/or SL1 Darkwraiths, which both definitely do benefit from it

>>121568236
Where can I buy this?

So why are you restoring Ember in DS3

Did dragons finally take over

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>tfw burnt out

i want to play but i don't

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>people who care about Souls lore
>people who care about Souls PvP
which are worse?

>>121575826
People who care what others care about.

>>121575939
Vicious

>>121575826
PvP fags since they actually want the game to be balanced around their dumb ass wannabe MLG bullshit joke.

>>121568485
IIRC you can do all of them offline, but farming for items is a bitch. Sunlight maggots drop sunlight medals, basilisks drop eyes of death, and other enemies drop other such items. Hit up the wikis.

>>121540342
i've watched the webm 5 times and i have no idea what im seing. the pieces of rock flying around?

>>121576424
Only covenant you can't level up offline is the forest guys. I think the only reward from them though is the fog ring which you can get by trading a skull lantern with snuggly.

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Why nobody posts gorgeous Menas art?

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>>121572653

Japan: http://ameblo.jp/soreron/

>>121574457

Just take a break and do something else for a couple of days. Nice art of the onion armour btw.

>>121576763
not my art, found it on google a while ago

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>>121576560

>>121576842
Then take a break and learn how to draw.
Then draw porn and rake in patreon and commission money.

>>121576979
i have literally zero talent or dedication and i pull myself down no matter what i do

ill just go suck dicks or something until i feel like playing again

>>121556770
i hear obs is gud, but if you cut the tail and he kills you, there is next to zero incentive to go back

>>121576424
>>121568485
The crows in ariamis drop souvenirs of reprisal sometimes iirc

am i the only one that thought favor set was the most ballin' thing ever?

>>121577052
Believe in yourself ! /Dsg/ was always famous for its appreciation of amateur artists, giving them good advices, constructive and moderate critique of their artwork, and general support. Right guys?

>>121561513
it's a meme. miyazaki had said that players that wanted the full experience should get the pendant or nothing at all. funny thing is, this can mean that everything else is inferior to the pendant OR that the pendant is as good as nothing and going in empty handed is the best way to enjoy the game. at the time it had created a lot of theories and miyazaki was probably laughing his ass off. at any rate, it can be traded for a souvenir of reprisal, but almost as soon as you can get to the darkmoon tomb, you can also kill lautrec, so it's kind of unnecessary

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>>121577501
Gonna dump some masterpieces from the most well-known /dsg/ artist of all time, now welcome in the official circles of Namco Bandai.

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>>121577946

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>>121578038
(I strongly believe that she-wolf Sif is everybody's most beloved hero, after awesome Lord of the Abyss Arty, of course)

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>>121578147

>>121578147
>Yeah thanks for saving me from the abyss and all, also beating manus was a kinda neat thing to do
>I´m stil not gonna give you this ring you need to fight the abyss again, I´m afraid you´ll have to kill me for no reason
Stupid asshole

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>>121577946
Man, Pursuer is such a cool design.

If only they gave him a bigger moveset that actually made use of all those weapons he had on his back.

That, and have him use more often the "heat up" moves he would only use if he stabbed you with the curse sword attack.

>>121578252
what is the guy on the right wearing? other than havel's gauntlets

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>>121578306
shut your whore mouth drooling piece of autistic trash.

>>121578368

One of my favourite things about softs was the pursuers that actually used their magic attacks. I had never seen them before in my game.

>>121578379

Gwyn's chest piece & EK legs.

>>121578428
Nah I´m sure Sif did the right thing, forcing me to fucking murder him for a ring he already stripped of a corpse.

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>>121576979
>Then draw porn and rake in patreon and commission money
just be as talented and dedicated as Menas, and you'll wallow in commission monies all day everyday.

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Sup bros

Is the halberd a decent weapon to level with in Dark Souls? I like its moveset, but the stats on it are pretty eh.

I am also playing a medium-armored knight build, so medroll and block whenever, though I prefer to twohand the halberd whenever I can.

>>121578339
Okay, this picture is giving me an itch to play the Lifehunt Scythe.

Please someone here give me a good Lifehunt Scythe build.

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>>121578552
>insulting the best boss in the game whom everyone refuses to kill and cries bitter tears after her death
walk out your window right now, please.

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It's sad none of you faggots were ever as skilled and talented as Menas to make decent OC. Very sad.

>>121578696
"stats are eh"
pls

>>121578891

I mean, it's no zweihander stats, that's for sure.

>>121578750
>everyone refuses to kill
>Impossible to beat the game without killing xur

HMMM

I'm not sure if you bitching about 4kings is worse than you bitching about Menas.

>>121578750
>best boss
that would be 4 kings

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>>121578857
>autismanon calling other people sad

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I firmly believe we all ought to show our appreciation for Menas, so please visit his deviantArt gallery and ask for a commission, also don't forget to visit his RedBubble store for various goodies, and of course make sure to follow his artblog on tumblr.

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>>121578953
and that's why it has literally zero fanart kekekek ;)

>>121579086
>0
dont lie to yourself

so is this the same guy who can't shut up about 4 kings?

>>121579187
What a cutie

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>>121579180
fuck off autistic piece of shit ;)

>>121579294
make me :^D

>Illusory Ring of a Conqueror
Who actually has this?

How is it even possible to not die once?

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>>121579216
yep
with one post he sucks some mediocre drawfag's dick, with the other he shits on 4kings

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>>121579316
fuck off cuntrag ;)
remember this name? oh of course you do, that's how all of /dsg/ called you back then.

>>121579430
Really easy once you get used to playing, i got mine by accident after speedrunning to ng+2 for a pvp build

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>>121579451
>mediocre drawfag
His art is now officially posted on the DS Facebook page. Speaks for itself, I suspect :)

>>121579619
I just can't complete the game without beating all bosses and picking up all items and going everywhere, feels like an incomplete file

>>121579493
>back then
>you
>implying it's just one person

>>121579684
What I did was complete the game normally on ng, speed the fuck through ng+ and then unlock every area/kill every boss/get all the shit i missed in ng+2

that way you can get a complete build while also getting a chance to collect the illusory rings

>>121579451
but why is everyone taking the bait so easily

>>121579451
>with one post he sucks some mediocre drawfag's dick

He's basically trying to get people to shit on Menas by pretending to be an overenthusiastic heavily autistic fan. Last time Menas and I spoke, he was feeling fairly unhappy with his level of skill and autismanon was making him uncomfortable.

So, yeah, fairly nice guy who used to drawfag pictures of other anons characters seems to have been pretty much successfully run out of these threads by our resident shitposter.

With all that in mind,
>>121579493
You can stop now. You already won.

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>>121579701
>implying it's actually ME who's just one person
dohoho :)

>>121579881
So you did a no bonfire and no death run at the same time? Damn son

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>>121579903
>Last time Menas and I spoke
Proof or gtfo, nigger.
Also, now that he made his name as a respectable artist on DA, he's wallowing in commissions and making tons of monies, and probably doesn't give a single flying fuck about all of you.

>drop my red sign in iron keep
>tab out while I wait to be summoned
>out of nowhere, the parry sound effect plays

what the fuck

>>121580034
no i never got no bonfire but i did get no death accidentally
if i ever need that ring i can just ce it in though

what i meant is that if you can do no death/no bonfire then you can get a complete-ish save by NG+2

otherwise just go up to ng+3, do no death on ng+ and no bonfire on ng+2 and complete the areas and shit on ng+3

>>121580160
Sorry that was me

>>121580258
>CE it
but then you would feel like a scrub

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>>121580146
It was in one of the flockdraws, he participated somewhat often when we used to do them.
Really though, your job is done. You can rest.

>>121580367
eh, i wouldn't really care on a pvp build

if i wanted to get the rings sure, but otherwise they are just a nice bonus

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>>121580597
>It was in one of the flockdraws, he participated somewhat often when we used to do them
Epically nice AND convincing proof. You're still an enormous piece of autistic trash. Go fuck yourself ;)

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>>121580916
>together with my /dsg/ bros

Is it just me or are rolls in Da2 pretty shitty?

>>121580758
>>121580758
Most overrated fucking boss in the entire series. I hate this guy because smug DeSfags think that his existence is proof that their game is the hardest in the series.

DeSfags only say he's the hardest boss ever because every other boss in DeS save Allant is a complete pushover in comparison.

And Flamelurker is the only boss aside from Allant that actually attempts to be aggressive. And no, fighting him with a pure melee build doesn't mean he's automatically hard. He's easy as hell to side dodge and punish his highly telegraphed "hand AoE" attacks.

>>121581450
as long as you don't dump ADP or straddle 70% equip load you shouldn't have too many problems

>>121581450
The animation? The roll animations are fine.

What's bad is that they're tied to the Adaptability system, which is singlehandedly the worst game design decision in the entire Souls series.

>>121578339
Imagine how hard Priscilla would be if she was more aggressive and moved faster when invisible

>>121579187
What does Eileen look like under her mask?

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>tfw dead 4cuntface will never get to play DaS3 while we all will be enjoying the shit out of it like one big friendly family
makes me feel warm and comfy inside.

>>121581427
>you'll never get spitroasted by the demons
why even live

>>121581937
She has a running animation, but never uses it.

this is now menas fanart general

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>>121580758
It's not like it matters if you believe or not.
I just thought you should know you don't need to keep going.

>The special biting attack does NOT infect other players with the parasite.

Why so carebear?

>>121582817

Why are there no dogs chewing his balls off?

I've never played through DaS as a sorcerer, and have never made a sorcerer build outside of CE/mule.

How would I go about doing this? From what I know, my run would be
>get some souls
>head straight to rickert
>buy shit I might want/need
>get firekeeper soul
>head back up
>acquire dex weapon
>save griggs
>rush to forest to get ember
>give to rickert
>make my weapon magic/enchanted
>rush sens
>save big hat
>get some sweet spells
>londo
>rush dlc
>dark bead + pursuers all day till the end

Would that be viable? What rings would I use?

>>121582892
>taking on capra before you eliminate the dogs

>>121583379
bellowing dragoncrest, maybe rtsr

>>121583219
Menas is too good.

>>121581712
>They finally fix the the rolling system a bit
>No more retard rolling through everything and dodging every attack like nothing in DS1
>Now you have to waste stats to actually use iframes
>Rolling away vs rolling through makes it possible to make builds with variety in adaptability
>Once again they have a PvP problem they cannot fix, but still, we got a PvE fix

It was one of the best decisions, same with parry, but sadly, not very well handed. A huge problem in DS2 is the good ideas terribly executed.

>>121583379
Doesn´t mater how you do it, magic hits hard and has the benefits of ranged attacks. It´s pretty easy, really

>>121579903
>fairly nice guy who used to drawfag pictures of other anons characters seems to have been pretty much successfully run out of these threads by our resident shitposter
Isn't he getting his dick violently sucked, all the way, in /bbg/ now?

>>121583379
Basically head straight for rickert, then release griggs, too. The entirety of the game can be cheesed with soul arrows; you have even more room to breath if you're not going pure spells and will have an actual weapon. Rush for the dark sorceries once they're available.

So, what exactly is the Dark Hand? Is it a spell? Is Kaathe beefing up your humanity so you can do magic with it?

It's got a similar icon to the Pyro glove, so is he gifting you some foreign soul like pyromancers give away pieces of their flames?

>>121583917
too edgy for regular pyro glove, got banished to dark hand

>>121583379
If you go for full damage with rtsr and dark bead you'll end up killing bosses with 2 shots.

No, it's not fun.

>>121583867
I haven't been in /bbg/ in a while.

More arrow in knee jokes in DaS3 please

Anyone here speak Japanese and can send a letter to from?

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>tfw giving up on seath and just cheat the boss battle out
I just couldn't do it as a low hp low endurance mage.

>>121584778
is this japanese navy seal or some shit?
>>121584753
>low hp low end
>implying you need more than child mask or a xanthous crown

>>121584926
my moonspeak is pretty bad but I'm like 75% sure that's lorem ipsum

>>121584926
I just couldn't bear it.
The run is long as fuck and stressing because invisible platforms.
Clams have high resistance to magic and 1 hit depletes my all my stamina with my most stable shield and i had to kill at least 2 before entering the fog.
go in, smash crystal, can't use moonlight horn because resistant to magic so i use greataxe but slow as fuck and can't swing it more than twice.
crystal attacks bring me to 20% hp and my fps to the single digits and everytime i tried to go behind he thrashed like a madman killing me in 1 hit

>>121585278
if you WANT the sword, you need to summon or tough it out. otherwise you can just run up to one leg and hit it, he will never hit you

Is DaS still active on PSN?

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>Playing DS2 for the first time
>Getting to the bosses in the Sunken King DLC
>Decide to try out Elana first
>I know the boss, and about Velstadt
>For some reason I think that if I kill Velstadt she won't summon him again
>Going through the fog with Ellie and Benhart
>Not so long after she summons Velstadt
>Waste most of my summons life trying to bring him down in the middle of the skeletons
>He dies eventually and takes Ellie with him
>Benhart survives long enough to take half her HP
>It's just you and me now
>10 seconds after I say that she summons Velstadt
>Fuck, but I can still manage
>Now she brings the skeletons in
>mfw
>I keep running around the room with my heide spear trying to hit her
>This goes for some minutes, all my estus and some 30 lifegems
>by then I was perfect-dodging Velstadt
>Skeletons not so agressive as I thought
>She's almost dead and I'm losing my patience
>Decide to enter the last two hits in one go
>Get Velstadt out of the way, rush to her, spear in hand
>I fucking miss
>Try again, hit, but Velstadt smashes me
>Skeletons get their hits in before I kill her
>Almost dead, and Velstadt won't go away
>Still have to dodge one or two of his attacks

And this is how I got her in my first try. I don't think I ever had so much fun in a souls game.

>>121585576
I'll pass the sword. on my way to oolacile, the guardian just took a bit of patience and crystal soulmass to complement the damage.
The other 3 bosses will be a huge pain, especially at lv 60ish but at least i hope i can interrupt artorias buff with my greataxe or i'm fucked

FUN GUESSING GAME:
I STACK POISE, POWERSTANCE KATANAS AND START EVERY MATCH WITH GREAT RESONANT WEAPON AND GREAT MAGIC BARRIER

WHO AM I?

HINT: IT RHYMES WITH MAGGOT

>>121584292
It would be a cool synergy of gameplay and lore if you couldn't use that dark hand if are hollow with 00 humanity

>>121585802
Solaire >>> Benhart

>>121584753
but you just have to stay behind him and watch out for that explosion curse move right? i dont actually remember because its such a long ass time when i fought him

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>>121585802

It took me a good 3 or 4 tries to get her. I wound up summoning Steelheart Ellie to get her to take some aggro. She wound up surviving the fight. Not as hard of a boss fight as I thought it was going to be.

Sinh took me a lot longer, but after beating him I felt absolutely elated. Having Edde certainly helped though.

>>121585842
You can, just do a running attack, should stunlock him in one hit.

If you want the sword, just get a lightning halberd, wait until Seath gets really close (close enough that he is about to attack), break the crystal and while he staggers run to his back a hit the tail near the end.

Remeber to be below 25% load.

>>121586129
>>121585802
I got lucky as fuck with her. She never summoned Velstadt, and only summoned skeletons over and over again. I ended up killing her first try, and she was in the midst of summoning Velstadt when I landed the final blow

Anyone feel like sparring in Undead Burg or something? I was in Oolacile earlier, but it's Gank central.

>>121586365
SL/Platform? I've got a bit of time to kill

>>121586129
Sinh kicked my shit as well. I felt bad for it becasue I managed Elana in my first try and the gank trio in two, but then comes Sinh and kills me 8 or so times.

Later I was reading that Sinh is a much tougher boss if you go with summons, not only because of the defense bonus but it seems that he will stay most of the fight in the air blasting your shit.

>>121586545

SL 125 or 70 (Same Build Different SL), and PC.

>>121586114
>stay in front
>get blasted by curse crystals
>stay on tail
>begins to thrash around in what i basically a 180° hitbox behind him
>>121586147
>running attack
noted.

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>mfw they get caught in the wakeup by a second fire storm

>>121586758
well i dont remember how i dealt with that tail trashing but i beat him on SL1 like a lot of people so it's definitely doable

>>121586958
>wakeup
We're stealing fighting game lingo now? Souls is like a 3D fighting game huh?

>>121586958
I hate it how in DaS2 your recovery from casting firestorm / scraps of life is shorter than the duration of the spell, so you can run around and attack/cast while the pillars of damage are still sprouting up everywhere

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>>121586365

>Gank Central

Why is it almost always Europeans? Germans especially.

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So let's put together our conclusions, and try to form the unified option - why exactly 4bitchez is the worst "boss" in Souls games ever? Your opinions, please.

>>121586684
Shit, ps3 here. Sorry m80

>>121587041
dark souls is a game where you can get knocked on your ass and go through a wake-up period

>>121586961
>so it's definitely doable
anon you don't understand.
i'm the kind of person that uses the shield for 90% of the time.
aka baddie.

>>121579903
>fairly unhappy with his level of skill
check out his commission prices and tell me more about who is "unhappy" here, faggot.

>>121586758
You can also stagger him with a headshot, that will stop the buff

For Seath, you're doing it wrong. That fight is about getting in and out at the right moments. Once you break the crystal, run down and stay close to his belly, right in the front, he'll most likely do the crystal wave attack, then you move to the side of his belly, and it won't hit you. You can get a lot of hits in that way, but as soon as his attack is over, get the fuck out of there because he'll hit you with the next one.

After he's done attacking, just run straight to his belly, and once again he'll do the wave, move to the side again and repeat. If you have nice damage output you can kill him right after you break the crystal.

>>121567987
Is this supposed to be a full model of the DaS1 Hydra? Cause I like it, Dragon Squid is really neat

>>121579903
>pretty much successfully run out of these threads by our resident shitposter
But /dsg/ made another "not so nice drawfag" (so to speak) annoying shitposting third-world dwelling transsexual attentionwhore without any skill or talent, in more plain words kill itself, and everyone was celebrating this epic victory of the general. What's wrong with people coming and going?

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I think Tarkus has the most rich personality than any other NPC. Are you agreed?

>>121587852
why does this guy draw Tarkus exclusively with his concept art sword? That isn't the weapon that he uses in-game

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>FinaIIy get to lron Keep
>Read Iast piece of armor for current buiId is here
>CIimb up Iadder to the mimic
>2 hits before it starts moving
>RoII back
>He Ieaps 50 FEET RlGHT lNTO THE KEEP
>See drop in there
>Can't be reached at aII
>Disappears about 6 seconds after

WouId anyone have an extra Dark Armor (just the chest piece) they are not using for their buiId? ls there anything you wouId want for it?

Don't have many good weaps but do have 11 twinkIing and 6 pet. bones and some earIy boss souIs. You can have any of them for it.

576k on PS 3 if you couId drop a sign!

>>121588190
You could just bonfire ascetic him back.

>>121588083
because it's so much fucking better?

I'm thinking of making a Str or Str/Faith build (ds1 and ds2). However I'd like to know if the investment in faith is worth it (buffs and heals). I like the idea of having buffs etc. but I feel I would be stretching too thin with the stats.

Is the buff damage worth the loss of survivability (HP/Stamina)? I'm strictly speaking of PvE here as I'm too new for PvP. Can someone who've played those builds can provide some input?

>>121588780
By the end of the game you should have near 40 end, vit, str and faith, so you won't be losing much

>>121588780
Dude you dont need viability in pve, holy shit.

>>121588780
Since you're strictly speaking of pve honestly the faith investment is worth it by a large margin. People may attest to quality builds being good, and they can be, but they do less damage than their infused/buffed brethren. You have a lot of variety with investing in just faith as well. Pyromancies/miracles everywhere, you can attack with elements and most everything is weak to lightning save for eleum loyce. That place is trashed by fire. And with the faith investment you could honestly choose to do some int as well.

I'm tanky as shit, like 900 defense physical everywhere. And 250 elemental as well due to +10 drakekeepers set and what not. And that's with 30 fth/int and the rest investment into hitting soft caps on other various things regarding strength related weaponry. My thing was investing in 30 faith for healing, getting like 22 atn later on, and getting 30 int only after I felt I was tanky enough. You should have no issue whatsoever. Especially if you're summoning or doing full co-op runs. People will love you for being tanky and healer/buffer.

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How do I get rid of PvP anxiety? I have like 2500 hours in game and I'm still shaking.

>>121588780
Yes, basically. I've done clerics in both 1 and 2 and they both work fine. Its more worthwhile in DS1, it felt like my heals did more and really extended my survivability by supplementing estus. In 2 you'll need a much higher faith to get much power out of your heals, from what I recall, and offensive miracles kind of suck in 2, but 2 boasts the nice bonus of very healing spell being a party heal.

>>121589347
kush

>>121589416
Just to correct you a little, the healing miracles in DS2 do not stack with faith and heal a base amount. But from playing DS2 almost religiously I have to say the heala can be quite overpowered. Especially with moderate attunement and stacking heal spells. Aside from that the offensive miracles are indeed a bit lack luster when compared to exceedingly powerful spells like climax. In which no lightning offensive miracles come close. They do hit rather hard like all sorceries and magics however. But there are indeed better options!

Is it just me or do you get a lot of beginners when you summon Dragon Covenant fuckers?

>>121590026
What? I'm pretty sure all healing miracles scale with fth, doing the listed HP heal at required FTH.

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>>121589002
it's really just a retarded design thing, m8. Srsly just look at this fuck. I don't even.

>>121589347
realize that no-one really gives a fuck about how bad you are, and if you're on steam, it's impossible tor receive fan mail about how much you suck

>>121588190
>>121588390

Trying to keep the worId at NG, not sure if going NG + on the first run wiII be a good idea but ascetic seems to bring it to ++ next run. These ascetics Iook Iimited so far too.

Hoping it won't come down to that but it Iooks Iike most peopIe don't use the chest piece since they aII use the mask so wanted to ask before that happens.

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>>121589347
Wait, what?

>Go in arena
>Lose
>Go back in again
>No repercussions

What worries you m8? You don't win, you don't win. Get back in there and try again.

lt's just pixeIs. lf you're not enjoying yourseIf, you shouId quit this game/series and find something eIse. No point in pIaying with something making you sick / anxietaI as it's bad for your heaIth.

Just know win or not, it's just a game and anyone sending maiI your way can be deIeted just as easy without even reading it.

>You have IiteraIIy NOTHlNG to worry about!

Go have fun, Anon!

>>121590439
Requirement does not mean scaling though, and is improper terminology. Scaling with imply it becomes stronger the higher the user's faith, whereas meeting the requirement would do as intended for the spell. And you can simply spam spices to get the requirement of the spell lower to have the same intended effect.

Does anyone wear Agape Ring in NG+?

I'm in tier 36 and was wearing it in NG while doing pvp and summons. Should I take it off? I'm not seeing any summon signs and not being invaded. Haven't gotten to Iron Keep yet.

>>121589347
DaS > DeS > DaS2

This is universally agreed on in the Souls community, right? Except those few hipsters who claim that DeS is the best Souls game, but nobody cares what hipsters think. I wonder where DaS3 will stand.

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>>121591231

DaS1 btw, but it also happens in 2/DeS. I don't think it's about winning or losing, I win most of my fights anyway. It's not that I don't enjoy it, I've had a lot of good fights & talks after the fights. Do you remember the first times you were invaded, the adrenaline rush? I don't think I ever got rid of that feel in the Souls series.

>>121591895
I'd say DaS>BloodBorne>DeS>DaS2 personally. I know there are some who don't like to class BB as a Souls game, but that's incredibly dumb honesty. Its heart is the pounding fury of a Souls game with a higher emphasis on speed, and it feels silky smooth to play, plus the setting is incredibly good. I ended up liking it more than DeS if I'm honest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UGO6eC-g6o

>>121583379

I was in the same position 2 weeks ago.
Here's my recommended ez mode sorcerer

>roll a pyromancer
>put STR to 12 (I think it's default on pyro) and DEX to 10 and never touch it again
>get some early VIT if you're a pussy, not really needed if you're good at rolling
>don't get any END whatsoever
>get enough ATT for 2-3 slots and dump everything else into INT
>get a Spear and keep upgrading it (eventually +10), it's mostly for backup when you can't use spells
>ring the first bell then go either blighttown shortcut or moonlight butterfly
>do the one you didn't do above
>go sens and free logan
>buy out all his spells as soon as you can he will leave and the regular sorc guy will sell you one more copy of homing and spear
>finish anor londo
>go to the giant blacksmith and turn in +10 spear and buttefly soul for MB Horn
>if you killed all the anvil demons in Sens and found all the Demon Titanite you'll be able to get the horn +5 which paired with high INT will do great damage on almost everything
>go Archives after soulvessel placed
>do logan's quest and buy all his shit, get his staff after he goes mad
>go DLC
>get Dark Bead
>roll everything else in the game with (crystal) spears and dark bead

I also recommend not giving a shit about armor and going with fashion souls and fast roll ring. The other ring the 20k sorc boost. I also use the Oolacile bitch's head for extra spell dmg given and taken.

As a final note, it is way more fun if you're a glass cannon. That's why I keep my VIT low (at 15 you get exactly 5 bars). Also can put 22 into END if you want exactly 4 bars of stamina and more weight for armor. The Bfly Horn costs only 1 stam bar per poke so it's very cheap in that regard and very very strong with high INT. Not that you'll care, spells themselves are even more ridiculous.

>>121592174
>Do you remember the first times you were invaded, the adrenaline rush? I don't think I ever got rid of that feel in the Souls series.

lf it's a good rush that's great. lt's the rush of winning (win about 4 out of 5 fights on any of the 4 characters) against other great pIayers. lt's great to win most of the time but it's more fun to be the guy bowing over you when you Iose rather than be the

>NO NO NO

guy to make you feeI bad just because l happen to be a IittIe better. lt's fun seeing famiIiar pIayers and having that bow and respect. The rush is there in a fun way!

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>>121591895
Correct listing:

DaS:PTD>BB=DeS>DaS1=SotFS>>>DaS2

TOH will probably bump BB up to PTD-tier.

HOWEVER, I want to make clear that the all the tiers are very minor, except the one that states that vanilla DaS2 <<< all others. The differentiation between the rest of the tiers mostly comes down to which aspects of these games you value the most, they're all great