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US Navy Shipgirls Edition

>Latest Patch Notes:
http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/35033-051-patch-notes

>5.1 Dev bulletin
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/update-051-dev-bulletin/

>5.1 Public test info
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/051-public-test/

>Useful Information:
http://pastebin.com/nuWhcW1K (POI)

>In-game chat channel
EU Channel: "Official /vg/ channel", password is "vidya"
NA Channel: Search for '/vg/' channel by Antibully ranger
SEA: /vg/

NA: [KUMA]: http://na.wargaming.net/clans/1000021519/

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5th for best bully
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Beginning operation...

>Commander...Admiral...Everyone...I'm...sorry...

;_;7
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>Note to self; In times of way, keep alert, even on Sundays...

One of the three Northampton Sisters, and apparently the one who gets into trouble a lot
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i don't get the op pic
why gearing is launching a plane with a bow, she is not a dirty cvnt
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>Goodbyes are not forever. They simply mean I'll miss you until we meet again!

She was a tough little ship ;_;7
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>>121397190

Thats Enterprise bro

>You're wrong! The future doesn't happen by random chance. It happens because we will create it!
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>A Medal? I refuse. No need for medals, sir. Duty doesn't need to be rewarded.

Second american Carrier ever made, is 4 tiers higher then the Carrier it replaced.
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>No worries sir. I promise the next one'll come home in one piece

Second of the Northampton Sisters - running gag that no one knows how to pronounce her name correctly
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EU server is back up, eurofriends
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>>121397717

you wouldn't happen to have just the art for the Lex would you?
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>>121396805
>>121397192
>>121397419
>>121397717
I dislike this artist. His technique is okay, but his designs are bland and forgettable as fuck
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>>121396805
>>121397192
>>121397419
>>121397717
>>121398013
autism
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>>121398046
prepare that all your mods are ruined

>>121398097
clemson is ok...
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>The study of history lies at the foundation of all sound military operations.

...except in relation to WoWS

>>121398097

Thats too bad, I quite like it. But thats because I'm a diehard burger - this game converted me from being a hopeless IJN fanboy

>>121398175
I countering your rape spam, rapepammer.
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>>121398286
a u t i s m t b h
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>>121398286
>this game converted me from being a hopeless IJN fanboy
but how? usn botes suck here
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>You know, it would be nice if I've got an air defense station...

First of the two Omaha's.
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>>121398479

I enjoy being an underdog. Makes wins and gains that much more enjoyable.

Only Colorado, and a real shame there are no New Mexico's
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>You want me to retreat? How about no.

Last of the Northampton sisters. Chester and North look like boys to me.
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shipgirl designs crack me up because when you think about warships you normally think of stuff like huge guns and thick armour and hundreds of people onboard working to keep all the systems in check then you see these tiny little moe girls with ship bits stuck to their arms and legs
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>Commander...Sorry I won't be able to give you...that dance I promised...

>Her first duty was to assist in the USAAS's first aerial circumnavigation of the world.
>Raleigh was moored at berth F-12, on the east side of the north channel at Pearl Harbor, when the Japanese made their surprise attack. In the first attack wave a torpedo passed ahead and a second hit Raleigh portside amidships. The cruiser took such a list to port that it appeared she might capsize. As crew jettisoned topside weight to keep her upright, her gunners helped to destroy five Japanese planes. Several of her crew were wounded, but none were killed.

Served during the war a decommissioned in september of 45
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>>121399046
>Tiny shipgirls
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>>121399831
I want her to eat me
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>I'm okay, commander! I'm okay! They just got my magazines. I'm okay...so please...don't worry!

>Shaw sustained major damage from multiple bomb hits by Japanese forces during the Attack on Pearl Harbor. The spectacular explosion of her forward magazine provided one of the most iconic photographs of the attack. She was repaired within a few months of the attack, and served in the Pacific through the rest of World War II, earning eleven battle stars.
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>>121399919
out?

>>121399979
meantime we lose our dd to detonations in game while rl dd survived them -_-
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Heres that iconic picture that was mentioned.

She was detonated, and repaired, returned to service at the end of august of 42.

I really do think DD's should get health pots.

Anyway, I've got more of these, but I'm gonna stop - the rest are for ships that don't exist in the game, classes that we might see in the future though.
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>>121400347
No, I just want her to eat me.
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>>121399046
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Anyone know if and when we'll be getting challenges and missions?
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I know that feel.
Hotel provokes all kinds of funny feelings in me.
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The REAL 0.5.1.0 patchnotes: http://pastebin.com/GjgqJWWL

and here's the 0.5.1.0 tech tree mod, because the previous version is incompatible

NA: http://www.mediafire.com/download/jwbw4rl50b5v9rx/WoWS_Extended_Tech_Tree%280.5.1.0%29.zip
EU: http://www.mediafire.com/download/k399jo32jto3roj/WoWS_Extended_Tech_Tree%280.5.1.0%29_EU.zip
SEA: http://www.mediafire.com/download/7cfldi14pv3b7o7/WoWS_Extended_Tech_Tree%280.5.1.0%29_SEA.zip
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>>121398094

Unfortunately no, but I have Langley, Hornet, and Yorktown
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>>121400895
>The REAL 0.5.1.0 patchnotes

Didn't have the link at the time, sorry senpai
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...And Yorktown.
So, with WG planning on making a 2nd IJN CV line, would the USN get one too? They made a lot of CV's, but most of them were the same class.

Also, Enterprise premium when?
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>>121399046
this

this is my fetish
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>>121400829
Same here, but I get more from her sister to be honest, family
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>>121400895
What's the difference between the region versions?
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>>121404967
literally just the filename, each region now requires a shiptree file with specific name, like shipstree_NA.xml, shipstree_EU.xml, etc.
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What is this shit?
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>>121405886
there is a new polish tier 7 turd destroyer
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>>121400895
What I am getting from this is that they have substantially changed how the game itself handles speed/engine power, or at least massively consolidated it.

Also a slight buff to IJN cruiser speed.

They also changed a lot of the flooding params to be much higher which we of course knew.

I'm gonna notepad++ this shit to get a clearer picture without all these fucking "removed"s
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>>121405960
>Jewel of the Polish navy
That's fucking hilarious.
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God the updated IJN CV spread is FUN! Seriously missed it from CBT! (Little different of course, but similar.)

Also, despite being against a Bogue and Langley, I didn't feel the same plane rape as prior to the patch.
By which I mean I actually tied a fighter langley for plane kills! (11, bogue had 22)

That changed fighter T3 perk was a horrific nerf/balance to USN planes it would seem?

No more 100% placebo IJN Fighters. :^)
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>>121406783
ironic autism is still autism
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So how much did they fuck up Carriers with this update?
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>>121404928
Yamato class a best.
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fuck this shit game

post more shipgirls
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>>121408313
Why does she need Glasses?
Why does she appear Japanese while her sister appears like a White girl?
Why does she wear her hair in such a strange fashion?
Why does she wear such a strange bra thing?
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>>121408772
>Why does she need Glasses?
why do so many japs wear glasses

>Why does she appear Japanese
if anything, she appears brazilian
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>>121408772
To be as sexually appealing as possible to a certain demographic.

For all questions.
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>>121408772
To aim
She's tanned, because she fought more under the sun
Because she has no taste
So her breasts don't escape
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Entertaining to look at numbers of ships not yet released.

>Fire-fighting ship to be purposefully used on friendlies.
CA's could properly play support!
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>>121410049
>more jap botes
>still no bong botes
>still no spaghetti botes
thanks wg
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>>121410049
That unreleased US DD seems so fucking wierd
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>>121408481
Very ladylike
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>>121410049
>>121410227
>Not realizing this ship only exists as a legacy from pre-alpha testing
Seriously, did the 1 damage shells explicitly marked as USELESS not tip you off?
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>>121410049
that's a test ship evidently
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>>121408357

>left to right
>Marblehead, Lexington, Sculpin, Edsall, Chicago, Maryland
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Any chance they'll add subs?
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>>121400895
Pruned Changelog of all the information irrelevant to a non-developer, such as "removed file" or "added file". These are worthless without access to the values behind them if they even changed at all.

http://pastebin.com/RFfDHses
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>>121411692
>That lexington bending over the table with the sideslits and sidetie pantsu
She wants it bad
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>>121411808
No chance. DDs in WOWS do the same thing but they're far faster and more fun.
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>>121408772
>She's tanned, because she fought more under the sun
Not quite
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subs barely have a place in a combat like in wows, they are way too slow for it
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I had a dream there were subs in WoWs.

You could only queue against other subs and the game mode involved sinking enemy AI-controlled merchant ships.
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What happen to captain skills rework? Are you telling me I put my points into useless stuff for no reason?
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>>121413330
A dev on reddit said the changes weren't rolling out this patch and that it shouldn't have showed up in the patch notes.
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>>121413330
certain captain skills and by default the upgrades for a ship do so little that they're literally worthless, you really gotta pick and choose which ones to invest in because you could get a perk or an upgrade that doesn't help you at all
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>best match I've ever had
>it's a loss

sasuga me
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>>121414868
How is your mod still working? Or did you just manually replace the ribbon images? I really liked that guys mod. Sucks he stopped doing it.
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>>121415190
some of mods still work
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>>121415190
I manually replaced them.
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>>121415303
For me, it just causes it to crash at log in screen.
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>>121415190
All you need to do is change the folder name in the res_mods to the current version
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class-locked FFA mode when
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>>121413947
The turret traverse helps myoukou a lot but had to give captain to mogami.
>>121413827
Shit, I noticed that the tier 3 Fighter skill was changed tho.
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>>121415731
>The turret traverse helps myoukou a lot but had to give captain to mogami.
just saying certain things like the Damage Control Upgrade literally do nothing
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>>121414868
I know that feel man
>180k damage loss
>could have been more because I was still fighting when it ended on points
kill me
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Well after playing nothing but IJB BBs all the way to tier 10, I'm trying to decide which line to try out next.
Are the Kruat cruisers fun once you get to around T5 - 8?
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>first match in the Karl post patch
>actually did well
>survived the match
>took a few hits and my engine stayed intact
>set a myogi on fire 4 times

Seems its gotten a bit better
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>>121416771
If it's meme ships you're after, get the Kiev.
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>>121416771
The Konig is the best ship in the game, no joke.
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>>121417240
that's the other line I was looking at, are the other mid tier slav DDs any good or is it just the Kiev?
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>>121417418
The Gnevy is pretty good, the ognevoi is just an uptiered gnevy, but its not all bad as it has much faster turrets.
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>>121417418
Gnevy and Ognevoi teach you how to start relying on your guns and are a little harder because their damage output is a little low - more fires than HE is not uncommon. Get superintendent because you absolutely need to be able to sit in smoke and spam everything.

Derzki and Storozhevoi will be amazing if you have any skill in watching the minimap for suicide rush options.

Izy is in-between.

After going through the whole German tree to elite Roon, the grind through the Soviet DDs has been just terribly fun. I recommend them, and Kiev is certainly the cherry.
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>buy WoD after literally 3 days without doing jack shit on MoP
>play it for a good while today
>have a fuck ton of fun
>garrison is neat as fuck
>literally making my shit more busier which is great
god damn i love this
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WHO IN THE EVER LIVING FUCK DECIDED CAPTURE POINTS SHOULD BE 1000 EACH

THIS MAY AS WELL BE FUCKING CAPTURE THE FLAG EXCEPT WITH FAST AS SHIT CAPTURE TIMES

FUCK THIS FUCKING SLAVIC SHIT GAME
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>>121418278
wrong thread m8
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>>121418278
You came to the wrong general, anon.
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>>121418278
m8
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>>121418278
This is WoWS not WoW, faggot.
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>Relevant to the chatter in game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaH9DHLqaeg

Fuck you America :^)
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>>121418475
two point domination mode is a god-send
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>>121418505
woah wh

i apologize
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>>121418854
Apology accepted.
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>>121413248
god, shes a goddess
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>>121418614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMcny_pixDw

Part Due

>>121411079
That she is!
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>>121418482
kongo best
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>first match
>kongo on strait
>ended the game with 2 hits and no damage, was a defeat
>second game, solomons
>get suicide rushed by a nicholas who broke through the slot
>got torp nuked trying to switch to HE

>switch to another ship
>derzki on big race
>head for DD fightan' arena
>get a helmet fire trying to dodge torps, fire torps, and gunboat, a pair or clemsons

>decide to grind some credits on aurora
>new dawn
>same situation, with a clemson and a sampson
>nuke the clemson after cracking his engine
>sampson closes and torp nukes me, cant turn fast enough and guns can't turn fast enough

Time to call it quits for a while...
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>>121420457
Not every day can be glorious, anon. Better luck next time.
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New censorship program/system.

10/10 I feel safer with it in place.
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>>121421312
don't tell the kiddies about yed.

they won't know how to handle it.

poop, too.
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>>121421312
at least we don't have to see people saying y*d anymore
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>>121421473
Dont forget you cant say essex either.
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>>121421312

What is about the word "played" that triggers people?
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>>121421705
>he doesn't know about yed.
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>>121421621
Delete this post immediately, that word is not acceptable in a Christian game!
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>>121421831

I guess I don't - what is "yed" ?
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>>121421965
nobody knows
it's hella offensive though
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>>121421965
it's nothing
it's the most obscure slang vulgarity in the world

but it's banned from chat now, including any word containing "yed"
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>>121421965
Is it yid?
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>>121422127
>>121422167
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yed
Jesus christ wargaming is literally sucking SEA's cock
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>>121422076
>>121422127
>>121422167

>yed
>Thai street language
>Always used with "mae" (mother), the term "yed mae!" is an interjection expressing surprise or disgust to a situation, equivalent to "Fuck You!". It does not literally mean "to fuck your mother." Many variations of the term arise such as "mae yed!", "yed ped!" (ped = duck), "yed mon!" (mon is an abbreviation of "Doraemon"), "yed khrok!" (khrok = mortar) etc

Fucking SEA, I swear. Why is WG so concerned with
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>>121422408
>>121422518
>our server gets shafted in literally every possible opportunity or just outright forgotten about
>except this one off case where some fucking engrish faggot decided to add the most retarded filter ever put into a game to cater to some backwater shithole that only makes up a minority of the server
first the flag retardation and now this
what the FUCK wargaming
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>>121422518
That's what I figured it was since gook was also censored, but that doesn't explain why poop, sex, and fag are as well.

Perhaps the person in charge of censoring words is like... 12?
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well the historical flag mod appears to have broken
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Wow, so is WG retarded? Trying to cater to koreans gets you nowhere - they don't give a shit about bote games, or anything that isnt a MOBA.

>all this subtle moba shit in WoWS
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>>121423806
Hirohito please.
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>>121423990

>implying it isn't true
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>>121424261
>Koreans play tons of different shit
>Japs only play browser region-locked games, Vita and japRPG MMOs that nobody ever heard about outside muh Nihon
Gee, I wonder what demographic is more profitable.
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>>121422518
>"yed mon!" (mon is an abbreviation of "Doraemon")

fucking pikachu, they swear by the cartoon characters
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>>121424842
>Japs only play browser region-locked games, Vita and japRPG MMOs that nobody ever heard about outside muh Nihon
but anon, that isn't true, the Japs basically pioneered the whole damn videogame industry
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http://worldofwarships.com/en/community/accounts/1000687559-Gydeon_itcw/#tab=pvp/account-tab-ships-pvp

>45% w/r overall
>has the Tirpitz, Sims, and Gremy
>44k average damage in the Taiho
>Taiho's average damage on NA is 80k

These are your team mates.
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>>121425471
Who fucking cares what happened in late 80s? Go sell them something that isn't Monster Hunter.
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>they nerfed XP gain across the board to compensate for giving more XP for capping
>I play nothing but slow ass BBs
fuck
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Bug alert.

If you get a fighter vs fighter engagement as soon as the fighters clash rapidly tell yours to go home and at the same time tell them to attack the fighters. If you do it right the game deletes exactly 3 enemy fighters. People are already abusing this and I bet it's a long time before it gets fixed. Go destroy the Anti air scourge.

Enjoy!
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>>121425728
>These are your team mates.
stat stalkers? :^)
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>>121425874
This just happened to me in my bogue, I actually came here to see if people were reporting a bug and here we are.

Fully upgraded bogue fighters with fighter ship upgrades and I go against a langley fighter group and as they clash suddenly 3 of my planes were gone in an instant.

Happened twice.
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Fixed mods when?
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>>121427390
Never
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>>121426203
Nah m8 I was in a T7 game and Gydeon was on the opposite team in a Hiryu with the +1 fighter/bomber perk. Guess he wanted to farm lower tiers with his maxed out captain. He still out outplayed by our own Hiryu somehow and Gydeon performed worse than his own team's Ryujo.
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hey /wowsg/, i've been playing for about a week. how are my stats?
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Someone mind telling me the size of their WoWS folder? My SSD is low on space and I forgot to check before I uninstalled.
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>>121427672
end your life, your highest scoring match is below my average
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>>121427672

Better than mine

>>121427898

18.4gb
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Cap XP is the best thing that has happened to DD's in a while

Aside of course, biased soviet DDs.
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>>121428091
o-ok but i haven't even unlocked a tier 5 ship yet
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>Play IJN BBs
>47% winrate
>Switch to USN BBs for the hell of it
>Suddenly, 70% winrate in the past week

I don't understand. Everything about IJN ships on paper seemed to appeal to me more than the American ships by miles. Many times, when I'm in an American BB, I curse that I don't have enough speed, or that my firing range is too short, or that I didn't have enough health to tank fires and flooding. Why am I winning so much? Is it because I bought a nendoroid of pic related, and she's blessing me with with the power of the abyss to sink filthy IJN scum?
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How did the new torpedo bomber things effect Jap carriers? Hiryuu specifically. I researched it a long time ago, but I've held off on buying it because I heard the Jap TBs were going to get an inverted spread. This didn't happen, but I'd still like to hear about the current situation. I just got out of a match where both teams Hiryuus scored under 1000xp...
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>>121428228
because you got the bb experience playing ijn bb
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>>121428218
how have you not unlocked a tier 5 after that many matches, are you playing co-op battles?
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>>121428131
Good shit. I got 20GB free, hopefully it'll be faster.
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>>121428317
no but i've been playing lots of different ships at a time and i recently started leveling up my kraut cruisers after a few games in the tier 4 USN BB
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>>121428471
just some advice, try and do at least your ship's hp worth of damage per game & get 1 kill per game, unless you're in a DD, then try to do three to four times as much.
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>>121428206
I know that feeling
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>>121428867
>Jon017335
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>>121428228
>I don't understand. Everything about IJN ships on paper seemed to appeal to me more

Stopped reading. Nice blog.
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>>121429032
Give me gold and i'll change it. Its an old username from a long ass time ago, and i'm not spending money to change it.
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>>121428228
Clap BB's allow for harder carrying late game due to armor profiles and soft stats.
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>>121428228

Closer range means better accuracy, I guess.

Also, Abyssals aren't USN dude. USN are girls.
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>No Missions available.
>No Events available.
>No Challenges available.
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>>121434106
>No Challenges available.
Sure there are

its called playing pubs
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>>121434106
>no royal navy
>no regia marina
>no free for all mode
what's the fucking point
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Any idea when we're getting the rest of the German tech tree, or is WG just going to sit on their arses patting each other on the back for actually doing something good for 0.5.1 for the next year?
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>>121434323
>FFA mode
Why would you want a mode where only DD's can win?
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>>121434630
We'll probably get a line of Britbong ships, most likely a BC/BB line, then I figure they'll start filling out the rest of the Sov and German tree's. Right now I think WG is just trying to get out contents, instead of spending a ton of time making whole trees.
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>>121434323
>no free for all mode

What would be funny is nation locked mode, with no mixed teams. All jap (axis) on side, all us (allies) on the other.

Would be interesting
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>>121434661
obviously it'd be classlocked so it's all DDs or all BBs or whatever. all CVs would be funny but I don't think it'd work out.
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>>121434910
>burger girl looks more Asian than the Jap girl
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>>121434910
who would win in an as-built fight between yamamamamamamamoto and Iowa?

who would win in last operational configuration? :^)
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>>121435016
>12 v. 12 CV fight
The shear number of planes in a high tier fight would probably crash the server.
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>>121435016
>all BBs
>Game with nothing but other damage sponges for me to shoot at
>can actually have point blank range brawls without having to worry about getting fucked by a million torpedoes trying to get close
fund it
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>>121435079
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>>121435197
>>all BBs
>>can actually have point blank range brawls without having to worry about getting fucked by a million torpedoes trying to get close
tirpitz...
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>>121435146
Could CIWS shoot down incoming shells?
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>>121435146
Given a parity in crew, commanders, and supplies, I'd give both to Yamato, I seriously doubt that an Iowa could stand up to a Yamato alone in a straight up fight in any configuration.
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>>121435178

Lets do some quick math.
12 Hakuryus.
8 Squadrons each.
96 squadrons in the air per side

24 Hakuryus equals 192 Squadrons at once in the air.
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>>121434827
>We'll probably get a line of Britbong ships, most likely a BC/BB line, then I figure they'll start filling out the rest of the Sov and German tree's.

I guess, but this one line at a time bullshit annoys the fuck out of me, I'd much rather spend a little while longer waiting and get an actual tree.
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>>121435197
>there will never be a WoWS for the pre-dreadnought era where the prime fighting range is within 9km and all the battleships have rams
>pre-dreadnoughts will always be shitty tier 2s that can't do anything in this game

It sucks to be interested in obscure time periods.
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>>121435426

Your forgetting that Iowa outranged Yamato because radar
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>>121435313
Are you seriously comparing a single BB with 6km range to half a team full of DDs spamming walls of torps 10-20 km out every 30 seconds?
Frankly I'd be happy to finally be able to just get in range of the Tirpitz's torps
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>>121435146
Did the Iowa have her fancy radar targeting then?
because if so probably the burgers
otherwise hotel
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>>121435426
>Iowa wouldnt be able to win with 16 Harpoons and 32 Tomahawks

Please
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Why did they release vodka DDs before making any bong ships? Why make ships for a nation that ended up being almost irrelevant navally instead of ships for Europe's foremost naval power at the time?
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>>121435146
>radar allowed
Iowa
>radar not allowed
Yamato

The ability for Iowa to track a moving target while Iowa also moved, and track it accurately, would be an insurmountable advantage against Yamato. I'm a Hotel man as much as the next here, but that's the simple truth of the matter. By 1944, Burger tech was light years ahead of Jap tech. If no radar fire control is allowed, then Yamato has a very good chance of winning.
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>>121435960
>Why make ships for a nation that ended up being almost irrelevant navally instead of ships for NOT RUSSIA

Dude, it's not that hard to understand why
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>>121435960
Because Russians make up a huge portion of their market and they already started the game off with two of Russia's other most hated nations, Japan and AMERICA.

Anyways Warspite was in before ruskies.
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>>121428228
>tfw i play USN BBs
>43% winrate
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>Download 6 GB of bullshit to install WoWS
>fails
>do it again
>fails
Shouldn't have bothered reinstalling desu
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who the FUCK put all this junk on my New Mexico's turrets?
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>>121435375
If the Sea Sparrow were installed it would use them, don't know if the CIWS can stop shells since the system wasn't designed for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibeDS2G2he8
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>>121425874
>>121426345
not guaranteed to be a 'bug'... but is in fact working as intended possibly.

Perk clearly states "100% increase to combat performance of fighters for each tier of difference between them..

SO a langley with T3 (stock) planes has 21 dps and 501 survival.

A bogue with 'best' planes has 35 dps and 940 survival. AND ARE TIER V's

that is a difference of two tiers.

So 21dps vs 35 dps and 560 vs 940

the 35 of course should win WITHOUT that perk..

toss the perk into the mix and ^ becomes

63 vs 35 and 1680 vs 940

Note this is not counting any module bonuses..

So that would certainly cause the higher tiered fighters to get RAPED considering the langley has nearly double the dps and survival rolls.

6 dice rolls with ___ chance to insta-kill the 'better' planes.

So there is no reason to use top tier fighters for FIGHTER VS FIGHER planned loadouts.


Anybody have the post/cap showing how to calculate the % to kill a plane? (like 23% per plane dice roll for langley to kill a hoshou plane vs 14% for hoshou.. prior to this patch of course.)

I seem to have misplaced it and am curious how ludicrous the % chance is with this new setup.

TL;DR: Simple math shows that the lower tier turns into the hulk for double or triple damage against higher tier, :^)
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>one of the main features of the patch is events and challenges
>no events available
>no challenges available

Absolutely ebin.
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>>121437534
nvm, located it.
"Chance of 1 Squad to shoot down 1 Plane:
Total DPS / Survivability = (X)*100%/sec"


For the Langley: 63 * 6 = 378(Lang dps) / 940 (bog's surv.) = .40212 (40.21% chance per second(46.9% with 7 fighters))

For the Bogue: 35 x 6 = 210 (bog's dps) / 1680 (Lang surv.) = 0.125 (12.5% chance per second (14.5% with 7 fighters))

So yeah! That'd explain it. (I am assuming the talent actually increases the survival rate, and not just the damage.) and again, the above is not counting the % increase from modules.

and the numbers are NOT cumulative.. (two squads vs 1 would be two 'rolls' of 40% and NOT a single roll of 80%)
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>playing without aim assist
wow this is ass. I mean, I'm leading fine but they're all a little off from being good hard hitting salvoes.
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>>121439942
Confirmation bias, you're only experiencing standard RNG spread but contributing it to lacking your shitter mod
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No matter what I do it wont let me install WoWS, what the fuck.
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>>121442147
lucky you
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>Buy my first BB after sitting on Chikuma for ages
>So stoked to fire a full broadside at some cruiser scum
>Get in the game
>Kawachi takes a fucking century to get anywhere
>Die of old age waiting for the guns to reload
It's neat that some of the small guns auto attack nearby ships tho
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>>121442147
Are you 20GB SSD guy? In that case, you actually need more than 20GB to download and install the game, after that it only uses 18.4GB
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>>121442650
The range on the kawachi made me so mad the first time I played it that I stopped playing the game for a week.
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>>121442650
At least you're not in the South Carolina. Don't worry, Myogi is much faster and fires much further, and it's not long till you unlock Kongo "Tier 5 Goddess" Bongo after that.
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>>121442650
Secondaries REALLY need a significant buff to their accuracy, even at the expense of a nerf to other things on a BB.

As they are they are COMPLETELY useless 99% of the time.
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>>121435146
Yamato. At least during good weather.
Iowas FC can't secure enough hits while being outside Yamatos immunity zone.
Once the range is around 20km Yamatos armor and size carries the day.
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>>121442686
Tried installing on my HDD too, didn't work. It's not a problem with the SSD. Anyway, I sent a support ticket with the log file so hopefully it can be worked out.
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>>121442853
>secondaries
send help
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>>121443362
>tfw you remember how relatively accurate secondaries used to be in CBT
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So sleepy. But I can't put this free premium to waste.
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>>121443885
>tfw playing nothing but the Karl to get it out the way quicker while I have prem
>tfw it's still pretty shit
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>be IJN cruiser
>rush in close range
>fire 203mm railguns directly into everythings citadels
>hit_to_citadelx10.png
>annihilate DDs with 203mm HE
>2-3 ships killed
>die to return fire
>only 4 minutes into a match
>1500-2000 base exp

>decide to try surviving longer
>stay farther back
>fire AP
>ricochet
>ricochet
>RICOCHET
>no damage done
>fire HE
>set fires
>still do significantly less damage
>end match alive
>700-1000 base exp

And that's why my survival percentage is 20%
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>>121444123
>tfw I have nothing to grind but Myoko, Amagi, and Konigsberg with my free premium

easy wins, easy life
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>>121444409
Lucky you. I'm in a stock Karl and the best I've done so far is 48k damage.
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>>121444875
that's the best you're likely to get, desu senpai
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>>121445000
Yeah I know, I just sat behind an island at the exit of a narrow channel and torped two Kumas.
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>>121443608
They were like firehoses. You were unstoppable at close range if you could dodge torpedoes or catch them on cooldown. The most fun I've ever had in this game was playing Nagato back then. I guess it was just too confusing for people to learn to stay the fuck away from the floating fortress.
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>new patch broke the botegrill mods I had
>the old modders have died or something
>the only alternatives are the pravda ones and they're too weeab-y for me
suffering
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Is it worth upgrading Mutsuki to Hull C, or should I just blow through to unlocking Hatsuharu?
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>>121446485
I agree the old modder was simple but pravda team is fucking too much.
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>>121446613
mutsuki C hull with the gun upgrade makes it actually capable of shooting because while the hull upgrade removes 2 turrets, the gun upgrade Doubles the rate of fire of the remaining turrets, and vastly increases their traverse speed.
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>>121446485
pravda is of way too poor taste
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>unlock ranked battles
>ranked battles are unavailable

ha ha ha.
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How's the Aurora? Got it for free last night and I have yet to try it.
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>>121448936
>shit speed
>shit fire arc
>shit armor
>good RoF
>decent damage when you manage to hit

Like a weaker St Louis really.
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>aim assist dies
>game stops being fun
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>>121448936

Fucking based.

It's only real vice is that its slow, and the turrets turn like their covered in rust - both issues that can be mitigated with proper planning. Other then that, its basically a St Louis, but I notice its shell performance seems much better
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>>121449183
>Aim assist dies
>Shitters cry
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>v0.5.1
>1m credit out of nowhere (actually it's from clearing a Mission)
This is why we can't go 1.0.0.
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Torps upgrade worth getting on the Karl or should I just get past it as fast as I possibly can?
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>>121449462

Get past it.

As fast as you possibly can.

Don't force yourself to play it any longer then have too.
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>>121449235
So it has good penetration?
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>>121449591
Alrighty.
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>>121449462
Just freexp the konig, nothing is worth it on the karl.
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>>121449723
I don't really just have 18k free EXP sitting around m8.
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How does one into Yorck? That worthless AP shell hang time and worthless HE shell damage is really killing the experience.
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>>121449774
Too bad, you could have saved yourself a lot of unneeded pain
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>>121449805
Yeah, I might just play my Sims and Arkansas Beta with EXP increase flags all day.
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>>121449598

Might just be all mental, but I get better games out of the Aurora then I do in the St Louis. The shell groupings seem tighter, and RNG tends to give me more fires, more penetrations.

I wouldn't be surprised if it had favorable RNG coding simply because its a premium, its russian, and its the flagship of the russian navy (once it goes back into service next year)
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>>121450072
>100+ ship goes back into service next year

Why am I not surprised?
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>>121435960
Because they aren't making ships for free.
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>>121450171
It's the Russian navy. They probably have another 18,000 mile long mission for it.
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>>121450171

It's operating cost will still be less then putting Iowa back into service. So, in a question of whose more retarded, I can't really decide which side wins.
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>>121450072
>I wouldn't be surprised if it had favorable RNG coding simply because its a premium, its russian, and its the flagship of the russian navy (once it goes back into service next year)

lol fucking what
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>>121450262
>yfw Putin sails Aurora around the world to have a 1v1 rematch with Mikasa
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>>121449963
The Karl is literally a tier 2 ship stuck in tier 4. I don't even fear them in my Gnevny like I do Phoenixes or Kumas.
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>>121450360

>In January 2013 Russian Defence Minister Sergey Shoygu announced plans to recommission Aurora and make her the flagship of the Russian Navy due to her historical and cultural importance. On 21 September 2014 the ship was towed to the Admiralty Shipyard in Kronstadt to be overhauled, to return in 2016.

Yep, she's coming back.

>>121450441

I would pay money to see it. Putin would probably captain the thing himself
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btw china made a replica of their ironclad dingyuan
i suppose they are going to return her into the service too :^)
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>>121450643
>tfw century old Russian, Chinese, and Japanese ships go up against our new playstation textured ships
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>>121450862
> our
But comrade, we are all of russian here
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>>121450643
>tfw we will never recommission the HMS Victory as our flagship
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>>121450971

Fun little fact, the only US Navy ship currently in service with a combat record and ships sunk, is a 217 year old Heavy Frigate.
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>>121451043
hm, don't they recently sunk some boats with somali pirates?
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>10h left on premium
>no more exp/credit flags
rip
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>>121451043
Looks like a cute little toy :^)
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>>121450932
Shit, the more I look at this thing, the more it looks like a Star Fox ship.

Forgot the pic
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>>121451102

According to wiki, the last ship with combat experience before Conny was the USS Simpson, a Perry class Frigate, that sunk a cartel submarine.
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>>121451402
>a cartel submarine

I knew smuggling was a profitable business but fucking hell, they had a submarine?
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>>121451451
i don't think an old diesel-electric submarine costs much more than a cargo ship
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>>121451486
But still. I'm also surprised they knew how to run it right.
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>>121451374

christ that thing is ugly. Function over form, I guess.

>navy thought stealth ships were a dead end 20 years ago
>trying it again

Shoulda just kept the sea shadow in service. What a waste of money.

Wow, look at this retard. USN is starting to look like special olympics of the sea
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>>121451583
i googled a bit... they actually have their own submarine wharfs and submarine designers... my god.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco-submarine

>>121451801
she has the bow like aurora <3
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>got the one ship in the game I wanted
>desire to play gone
fug
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>>121451973

Which ship?
>>
also what i like about that zoidberg class destroyer

>The class has a low radar profile; an integrated power system, which can send electricity to the electric drive motors or weapons, which may someday include a railgun[11] or free-electron lasers;
>weapons, which may someday include a railgun[11] or free-electron lasers

also

>They take the place of battleships in filling the former congressional mandate for naval fire support

dd >>> bb
bb go home, dd took your place
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>>121452036
that one actually
I've spent literally the entire time I've been playing the game grinding for hotel, and now that I've unlocked her my motivation for playing the game has completely gone
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drug submarines are steered with a car steering wheel
omg
what a shame ><

>>121452398

baka
why you don't play her now
also when ranked is back you can play her ranked
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>>121452287
>bb go home, dd took your place

Destroyers actually did the bulk of the fighting in WW2. They were cheap, easy to build, easy to repair, and designed for high endurance. They could pretty much do anything needed, from escort to strike missions. They could defense themselves from air threat, and had the firepower to take out ships of larger tonnage.

There is a reason why all other surface warfare ship classes became marginalized post war, except for DD's and CV's.

>>121452398

I can understand that - grind to tier 10, and the last thing you want to do is go through all that work on another line. And since your at the top, theres nothing to work toward.

I have that problem - i have no desire to play a ship if I've already gotten the daily on it. I actually quit playing War Thunder from boredom once dailys were removed completely.

Dunno what to tell ya senpai. If all you've played in BB's and Cruisers, give DD's or CV's a try - playstyle is so different you might enjoy it. If thats something your already familiar with, give the game a rest for a while.

But give your Hotel some love - you worked so hard to be with her, she deserves some of your time.
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>>121452591
Looks like a fucking death trap, Jesus Christ, anything for drug money huh?
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Which bote is the best to get cqc award?
Almost 2000 battles and that is the only achievement I still haven't.
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>>121452896
Any IJN BB with as many skills and upgrades piled on for secondaries. Technically Hotel is as a result
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>>121452896
Battleships. I got it from detonating someone with Myogi's secondaries.
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>>121452896
just sink a dd with your secondaries and you are golden
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>>121452884

The person driving it is probably gonna be a desperate mexican with no other job opportunities. His only hope is that the coast guard doesn't catch him and make him talk, because cartel goons would chop his wife and kids into little pieces, and send him a DVD video of it.
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>>121452591
>>121452619
I was trying to a little while ago, but SEA is pretty ded so getting into T10 games can be a pain in the ass depending on the time of day
honestly probably going to go play some GS games for a little while and take a break from the game. knowing me I'll be back soon though, probably once all the mods are fixed
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>>121453073
>>121453020
>>121453030
>tfw I play nothing but Nagato and Hotel
>sunk a number of DDs and other ships with my secondaries
>never got a CQC award
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Newfag here, I got my Chikuma and Umikaze, should I sell Hashidate?

If so am I supposed to sell the last ship after I've upgraded to the next because I'm not gonna expand slots?
>>
Kinda wish I bought the Tirpitz back when it was in the shop. Is there any chance of her ever coming to the tech tree so I can buy her with gold?
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>>121453372
If you don't like it enough to keep playing it after you've moved on, you sell it. Start really considering hanging onto ships around Tier 4 or 5.
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>>121453419
probably turn up in the store as part of an overpriced bundle again at some point, christmas maybe
doubt she'll ever actually be a tech tree premium though
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>>121453486
God damnit, looks like I'm not getting the Tirpitz then, because I refuse to buy those shitty bundles.
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>>121453372

Depends on if you want to keep lower tier ships. I still have my Tenryu because its just a great fun bote.

But port slots are a precious resource assuming your not gonna dump real money into the game to get more.
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>>121453559
I want to marry this bote
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>>121453147
actually that article had a pic of a captain of one of those submarines who said that they lived on crackers, canned beans and milk and it was 'hellish'

`Once upon a time there were three little sisters,' the Dormouse began in a great hurry; `and their names were Elsie, Lacie, and Tillie; and they lived at the bottom of a well--'
`What did they live on?' said Alice, who always took a great interest in questions of eating and drinking.
`They lived on treacle,' said the Dormouse, after thinking a minute or two.
`They couldn't have done that, you know,' Alice gently remarked; `they'd have been ill.'
`So they were,' said the Dormouse; `VERY ill.'


also they had a some kind of commissar aboard whose job was to prevent possible mutinies

http://content.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,2061931_2260142,00.html

also it seems their crew isn't particularly afraid to fail their mission
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>>121453815

She was my favorite
But Clemson stole my heart
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>>121453372
well you can get free slots with some random codes flying here and there, i think i got at least 2 or 3 free slots with codes for the month which i play, it's mostly na stuff though and nobody knows when you can get the next code

anyway chikuma is crap, hashidate and umikaze are decent, but you dont want to keep them too unless you want to stat pad intentionally playing very low tier games for quite a while

still many people keep umikaze
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Man, I don't know how much the Gun Fire Control Mod affects accuracy, but it's definitely noticeable on the IJN cruisers.

Consistently slamming 7 of my 10 shot salvo into a BB from 14km away is the greatest feeling in the world, especially when I have a 20% chance of causing fire.
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did the game get choppy after the patch for somebody else too? my pc is enough to run it, still it is choppy sometimes despite 70+ fps
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>first game in the Konigsberg

Oh God this game is sort of fun again.
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Why did the server have to go down? I was having fun again in my Mahan killing Derpitz.
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>5 citpens in a row against some guy in an Iowa
man, poor dude
also this ship is alright I guess, it's giving me a bit of motivation to keep playing
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>>121454146
How is Chikuma crap when Hashidate is a level above it?

Also is it a good idea to sell the other factions' starter ships? Can I get them back when I need to advance their trees?
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>>121456657
She pleases her captains
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>>121457124
Jesus, my game was good, but nothing compared to that. Was yours fully upgraded there?
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>>121457078
Yeah you can buy ships back whenever you want, including the tier 1s, but I don't think they give or cost much/any credits so it's only really for the port slots
and the Chikuma is bad because being a tier higher means it's fighting against other higher tier ships, and compared to them it's not very good
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>>121457224
I had the fire control upgrade, but got the hull upgrade after this one. Both teams were the magical level of bad enough that I could just sit back and club.

We were still dangerously close to losing because I was busy clubbing A, and as happens so often nobody went to grab C early not even a DD
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>level 11 bonus is 3m credits
>didn't get 3m credits
ty
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What's the diff between coop and random battle?
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>>121457224
those sort of games are less because you are playing good and more because the captains in the other team are so fucking retarded
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>>121458140
>>121458441
Oh, well it's still a good bote.
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>>121458516
it definitely is
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>>121406679
can't wait to see the Polish DD recking everyones shit.
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poland actually had navy
i recall they had a submarine which was sunk by allies with friendly fire :^)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORP_JastrzÄ…b
oh, wait it was a british submarine loaned to poland
poland strong
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>>121460360
the polish navy are sea horses
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why on earth did they add a polish ship before infinitely more relevant navies in ww2 like the royal navy, french navy, italian navy or even the fucking royal netherlands navy
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>>121458360
Coop is with a team of players against a team of bots, random is a random set of players against each other
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>>121461490
So that people will buy that line's premium and grab some cash before they finally release the relevant ones. That's when people will gobble it all up with prem time, free exp and premium boats.
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>>121461490
pooland has a large playerbase presumably
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>tfw lost every game since the mission came out
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>install game for the first time
>get this
Bravo Wargaming.
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>>121463780
>installing

No, anon. What are you doing? Don't even touch the thing!
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>>121463780
protip: turn off seeding in the settings
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>>121463901
If this is the solution I will leave a big fat turd in the official forums.
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>>121464025
it was more of an unrelated protip, should've mentioned that
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>try to play tier 10 on SEA
>nothing but 5v5 shit games
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>>121464237
>SEA
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>>121464330
>WG will never let me change to a less shit server
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Accuracy or fire rate upgrade on the Konigsburg?
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>these two started this 1v1 at less than half health
>they spend literally 8 minutes firing HE at point blank range straight into each others citadels without doing more than 30k damage combined
>one of them only managed to get a kill because of fire damage
what the fuck did I just watch
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>>121465081
>23fps
>111ms
christ
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>>121463780
Change launcher_transport from 3 to 2 in launcher.cfg. Don't ask me why you have to do this stupid shit just to update the game.
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>>121465135
it's normally ~50fps, no idea why it's so bad there
the ping is always that bad though
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>>121465081
>That new map layout

RUINED
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>>121465381
>the changes to two brothers
I don't even know what the fuck is going on anymore
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>>121465275
poor you
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Dear Santa,

For Christmas, I want people on my team to be less bad at botes.

Thank you. Please enjoy the cookies.
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>>121463901
Well it wasn't the solution but I get fullspeed now so thanks.

>>121465147
Will give it a try.
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>>121465596
Don't forget to clean updates folder first.
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>>121465642
I deleted everything in /Updates/ but left /UpdatesData/ untouched.
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>>121465147
that turns off http downloads and enables torrents, you have no idea what you're doing
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>>121466479
other way around nigga.
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>>121466687
...
No, 3 is http
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>>121466740
my client says something different

>Initializing P2P session
with 3

>Getting patch files via http...
with 2
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Finally a game with DD where I wasn't pure shit.
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>Can't seem to win a game with the Konigsburg after just buying it
>don't care because it's a stupidly fun bote after playing nothing but BBs for the last 600 games
man between this and my new Yamato this game is starting to be fun again
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HOLY CRAP

An actual mission!
>Win battle and destroy two ships.

So my german grind is postponed...
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what the fuck is this shit, didnt they add +XP for capture? Two games now with zero capture points and Ive been capturing from the start in A and B game. Is it only ABCD games that counts?
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wtf happened to my addons
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>>121468378
if they don't work in the right folder/right paths then they're just broke
I know a bunch of the UI ones are now
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>World of Atagos
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>>121465516
BBs can't edge the map while DDs and CA can
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>>121465516
WG made a shitty map worse by placing more islands in more reatrded positions
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is it worth bothering with AP at all on the 105mm pop guns on low tier CAs/DDs or should I just be spamming HE all the time?
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>>121472415
You may be able to pen unarmored things like Tenryu, Kuma, Langley, Hosho, Bogue, etc.

So, at shorter ranges, yes, you can try AP agaisnt those targets.
Against pretty much everything else, use HE.
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>>121472415
Just spam HE
It seems to citadel CVs better than AP and is not useless against anything else
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Is 5.1 fun?
Won't be able to play until Sunday atleast
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How do I git gud?

My Tenryuu just fucks around and just fire HEs at max range, my Umikaze just bums around the map and mising torps.
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Why do they keep changing the flag.dds?
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Is being offensive discouraged here? All the successful rounds involve lots of turtling and hiding.
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Anyone knows where these long flags are used for?
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>>121473495
Stop firing HE at max range, start firing HE at ranges where you hit and wreck shit.
Stop missing with torps, start hitting with torps.

Don't rush in like a retard.
Don't torp your allies.
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Post yfw you realise that Kongo is Tier 5 KV2 all over again.
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>>121474958
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Anyone else playing with the osx wrapper and hanging on update? I know I can fix it with a full reinstall, but i'd rather not.
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>>121474603
Are they the basis for those long, triangular flags that are part of some of the signal sets?
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>>121476402
That is why I'm asking.

I rarely play the game, just go on to look at boats but the IJN flag triggers me.
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>>121475183
>osx
lol
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>>121476402
Forget pic.

These are the signal flags, with some others. There's a pirate flag with a skull as well, most probably for tutorial or some new mode.
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>>121476587
Ranked battles.
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>>121476864
Then what about the multiple soviet flags? I'm thinking about changing those on ships to the red and yellow ones.
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>>121477087
Russian, early Soviet, early Soviet with guards mark, WWII Soviet, WWII Soviet with guards mark, Cold War Soviet. Probably for ships from diffrent periods and prems.
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>>121477087
RU wanking probably
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>>121476453
>the IJN flag triggers me
one part of aslain's modpack had historically correct flags

except for some German ships which should have reichsmarine flags it worked fine

of course the new patch broke everything again because we can't have nice things
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Why is the Kolberg so... okay? It's not great by any means, but it's not terrible either. Is this meant to be preparation for getting blown away in the Karlsruhe?
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>>121479264
I don't like how the ship backgrounds uses the flag as well. I just feel triggered when it's on the ship itself.
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>>121479356
Unlike Kolberg, In Karlsruhe you have to fight against enemy with superior range and bullet speed
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>>121479356
Karl is okay now. Worse than Kuma and Phoenix but it's okay.
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Does the soviet flags look weird? I took one from the tier two and one from the tier 5 as they both uses different flags in the original.
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>>121479858
And here is the closeup.
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>>121479858
Soviets didn't fly USSR flags on their ships.
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>>121480040
But I like that flag.
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Finally got the New Horizons mission done.
So many kill stealers.
Jesus fucking christ people, if the Montana is at 1k HP and on fire and has already popped his repair, he is not a fucking threat.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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Did 5.1 shit on USN CVs even more? Haven't gotten round to playing it yet.
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thanks wg
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>>121482231
Why did they cap all the ship names?
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BURGER
U
R
G
E
R
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>>121482328
because WHY NOT?)))))))))))
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>>121482231

You've not seen anything. This is how you know its the weekend.
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circles of wows hell:
>dds who launch torps ahead of friendlies
>cas who die to dds
>bbs who run to the edge of the map and stay there all game
>cvs who run to the edge of the map away from their team and get picked off
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>>121483310
Amen.
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>>121483310
>hell on earth
>US BBs
>DDs
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Who is the best BB and why is Kongou?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBFfc5246fM
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>>121483534
Are people so trash at this game that playing shit like NM that still averages 50% in WR is considered hell on earth?

I mean, I'd freely admit that IJN BBs are superior, but I refuse to believe there are players who can't do decent with US BBs, even with the slow speed and range.
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Gee, this surely will stop those Zao's shells from penetrating my ass. Thanks, WG!
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>>121483310
Anyone still have that WoWS bingo?
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>>121484629
Also, some mod stated that sonar is only on all the cruisers and not on every ship as stated in the patchnotes.
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>>121484787
All the ships that could equip sonar previously had their charges of the sonar consumable limited to 2.

That's what happened.
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>>121484629

Wargaming is like "you want a buff to a USN ship? Here, have a b u f f"


Does it honestly count for anything, the 2mm and the 8in AP "ricochet angles"
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>>121484937
That's not what the patchnote says.
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>>121484937
>>121484787
Does the sonar even do anything at all? I didn't notice any difference when using them.
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>>121485114
Increase proxy spotting range for ships and torpedoes. Could be useful if DDs can use them.
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>>121485050
Yah. "Bad translation".

No new ships have received the sonar.

>>121485114

It's very useful on the early german ships, because they have a better, longer range version than everyone else does.
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>>121485251
>bad translation

Translated as intended. :^)
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>>121485251
>It's very useful on the early german ships, because they have a better, longer range version than everyone else does.
Is this actually confirmed or just a placebo?
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>>121485496
I can confirm that it is useful through my own experience.

You can check the actual ranges in-game. The German acoustic search is effective for a couple kilometers farther than other nations.
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>>121485496
As confirmed as speed boost on DDs increases your detection range.
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>>121483310
> tfw fire torp salvo clear away from allies
> tfw ally suddenly changes course and steers true into the full force of all 4 torpedoes

Shouldn't there be some warning for this?
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>>121485496
Placebo, obviously. Have you lost games because it wasn't specifically a German Cruiser that spotted the DD? No.

Sonar is utter shit.
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>>121485815
>Playing match at tier 6
>Konig player asks what his HA button does
>"Oh lol thanks I never knew that"

That's why you've never had trouble with it as a DD

Try it from the other side as a person who knows what's going on.
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How easy is it to rekt blueliners now?
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>>121485994
Bloody hell.
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>>121486015
garbage

>aim ahead of blueline
>he crashes into line and stops at a standstill
>torp a blueliner
>crashes into line and comes to a standstill, invalidating your torps
>they then do supersaiyan turns and rape you with their guns


blue lines kill this game
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>>121485994
>planes spot a dd
>frontline DDs spot a DD
>any cruiser spots a DD

90% of the time you don't even need Sonar to spot a DD. Hell, if you're first on the front line, you're prime target for free citpens.

It's placebo shit, your kraut boat's sonar isn't as great as you make it out to be.
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What are the odds on the Albany being made available again?
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>>121486618
You use it when dds are hiding in smoke. And since the Konig can't mount the AA barrage, there's no reason not to use it.

Yes, it's been useful.
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>>121487178
>You use it when dds are hiding in smoke

Wow, tell me something I don't know. That applies to every ship with sonar. That extended range isn't a fucking gamebreaker, it's still placebo shit.
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>>121487449
If you know that sonar is used vs DDs in smoke, why make examples of all the times DDs are spotted out of smoke?

Would you rather fight a DD at 5km or 3km?

>gamebreaker

Never said, anywhere, by anyone. Just useful. Like the U.S. BBs having 20 second repair parties instead of the 10 seconds IJN has.
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>>121487813
Because that's 90% of the time you'll be spotting them out of smoke.

Also, I'd rather fight them at 8.
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>>121487449
Spotting low tier torps at 4km away is p. damn nice compared to the <1.5km range you'd see them at otherwise.
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>>121488393
It is. You don't need a cruiser at the front to do that though.
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>>121488507
You're going to be 1v1 on DDs in the low tiers if you're a cruiser at some point. Regularly, even.

At low tiers German HA is objectively better than other nation's.
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>>121488507
You use it to protect yourself from torpedoes and DDs at low tiers where you can't just blow them up at 15 kms. What kind of front are you talking about you gigantic doofus?
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>7 Minekazes on the enemy team
Thanks for the missions WG :^)
>>
You know why I think tanks are better than ships? Because there is no shipgirl out there that is cuter than Yukari and that's a fact.
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>>121488907
Who said anything about 15km? Low tier BBs like Kawachi can't even hit that range and Wyoming can barely reach it. Jousting at 6-8 is more than enough, and you don't need fucking sonar to help you out.
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>>121490394
>There is this thing that will help you dodge the torpedos and find DDs in smokes
>I don't need it because I always click DDs at exactly 6 kilometers and haven't had a DD sneak on me ever
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>>121490691
>someone else will always spot DDs for me :^)
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