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/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #85

Angela edition

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Old: >>121264929

Ignore and report club shitposting, namedropping shitpost and so on.
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>>121374004
I did recall one of my Nerua dupes for 1600GP, now I have a ST + 2 superb Nerua left.
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>>121374004
Why is the new art so
S H I T

H

I

T
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>>121374004
>tfw frilly see-through pajamas ruined by wearing things inside
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>>121374275
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So how are you supposed to beat the Avnore/Alice/Metatron/Lia Ronald Gk backline again?
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>>121374170

So if I have a Nerua with 1 superb, break her into two neruas, and recall the copy, I'll get 1600 GP?

Seems worth to me, Nerua doesn't do much aside from be a totem, and she already has all the good ones active with just super training.
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>>121375868
have a thunder or ww front line
or IC assist
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>>121376032
Yep, but no Shu Shu because it's a lv1 copy. But fuck it imo, 1600gp was more than enough.

ST + 2 superb Nerua can have maxed Active, elemental def and CR buff
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>>121374509
the coat makes it look like her leg got fucked up in the thumbnail, but otherwise nothing's really off about it

>>121375868
IC passer + kevin/jewnose, nari with provoke, active healers, beth, etc.

of all the times i've seen that backline, no one has truly invested in it, so most players are low superbed or ronald dies in one shot from any competent striker
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>>121375868
Have a lot of damage and reflex so the entire line suicides on whoever's holding the ball

Use action bar recovery from other places or have self-recoveries like Nari and Vann

Have a speedy assist who outspeeds them all anyway like Nera or have speed buffs from other sources (positional buff helps a lot)
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Just leaving this here
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>>121376629

>Lynbell

It's unnecessary. With just Metatron and Virgil, any of their units would become one-shotable by pretty much anyone.

Just put Metatron Mid and use Hildegard to fuck their action bar or Malcolm to fuck their Spirit Bar up.
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>>121376629
Not bad
Not bad at all
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>>121375868
Jury, Meta/Beth mid, IC, Jewnose/kevin, Kiki, milky, vonchi, other players
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>>121375868
BB should rebalance action bar reduction to 10% being the lowest a players action speed can get reduced to so cheesing gets nerfed and these sort of backlines
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>>121376498
>no one has truly invested in it
This guys is, pretty sure Lia and Alice are the only non fully superbed units on his team.

I've been stuck at 2150 for a week now and ran into him twice
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>>121376629
>Ravian + health-decreasing backlines
What's the point, you're even weaker against 1HP battles and it still does nothing to stop Attacker-Defender mids from going about their business
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Ah, there's the loss I was expecting. Thanks for the -9 monothunder cancerous shitfucks.
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>>121379006
>put silk in front of guin
>Have her charge through to the front line, every time
>Win

Its that easy?!?!??!
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>>121379006

>btw I use metatron

cancer for cancer, motherfucker
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>>121379329
>not getting ohko'd by leventor
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>>121379329
>Silk acting before IC Luka
>Silk acting after -45% speed from Icy Road + Blizzard
>Silk acting after eating double Guin steals

Sure is nice to be in Bronze+
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>>121379006
Hate monothunder cancer, but still somehow i can't get mad at mementor raping my Isillia.
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>>121379682
What, are you telling me you dont have a silk with 10k action speed before the game starts? Nonsense.
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>>121379707
But Isillia is worse GK.
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shit game
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>>121380776
Sharr pls go.

>>121379006
>meme CM
>no reflexes in mid
>Bell in a 3-man botlane
>Literally no crit resist or DR GK
I get just as mad at the mono-Thunder cancer, but that's a shit Thunder team because the mid is pretty crap. The 4-man mids of Lynia-Bell-Veronica-Cynthia are way worse.

And while you won't counter Luka, you can easily penetrate through Guin after the Leventor shot, use a IC unit like Anael/Virgil yourself.
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Hasel is now a weirdo and Perial is an abusive tsundere.
Now we know why she's removing her stocking.
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Best cat!
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>>121383047
I want Perial to abuse me with her feet
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Does the duration timer on stacking debuffs reset whenever a new stack is applied?
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>no one really noticed her glasses were removed in the last OP
huh
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>>121383306
Literally ST material after the Magnus buff.
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Suggestions on who to get next? I probably should get rid of Shu for pvp right? I was going Light/Ardor, but Uriel sucks and Ravian is bae. I have Jeunese in my scout right now and 3.2k gp.

On the bench I only have

Anal
Yuri
Lia
Roina
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>>121386592
Magnus, Nerua, Isillia.

Use Lia CM and move Sammy up top, bench Nari.
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>>121385506
You never know if she will ever get an EE and become OP like Sharr
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>>121386896
Ok, so back line is the issue?

>bench Nari
:(
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>>121387525
Ravian doesn't need her. She needs cheese, not damage.
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>>121387525
Nari does nothing for Ravian. Sammy recovers action bar and can pass to dead Ravian, instantly reviving her.

Alternatively kill yourself you fucking Ravian user faggot.
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Guys, how do we fix meta-beth?

I dont think bb can indirectly nerf that combo by releasing a new unit. Its just to gamebreaking.
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>>121387841
>>121387668
Oh shit ty.

And nerua popped up, scout right? Who would she replace?
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>>121388201
Avnore.
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>>121388126
Meta is fine, Beth is the issue.
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>>121388126

For starters, give Beth's active a 1 bar mana cost, why the fuck is a teamwide AB heal free of cost?
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>>121388126
New weather effect: reduces action bar recovery, heal recovery, gravity damage 75% in PvP.

Instantly fix Ravian, Meta Beth and WoM + quickstart bullshit.
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>>121388517
but m-muh bora
unless steals aren't considered recoveries, in which case go ahead
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>>121388421
This, give Beth's active a spirit cost and nerf the action bar recovery of Meta but buff the hp recovery.
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>>121388126
>Meta
Tone down the action bar fuckery. Legend or not, it's just too much.

>Beth
Start by giving her an ass
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>>121385506
She's the only one who can decrease Vitos' damage though
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For those of you who train up Lynia and Cynthia, do you focus on giving them reflex stones until they have enough superbs to not instantly die?
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>>121388126
>meta
make AB skills cap at 90%
>beth
Make her active cost 1.5 spirit
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>>121389369
I don't understand the Vitos meme. He still has to take two shots to down my Zibroi.

I still lose, but two shots on my shitty ripbroi
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>>121388517
Thats just destroying all strategies that aren't based on crits or reflex. There needs to be a balance between nerfing stuff that is unfun and brokenly overpowered like metabeth and leaving room for a variety of compositions.
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>>121389998
Make Beth's active cost 1 bar of spirit.

Make buffs and debuffs multiplicative rather than additive.
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>>121390258
personally I'd rather nerf meta but I think we all know that's never going to happen
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>>121390520
you can play around meta to an extent, you can't play around beth's active.
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>>121390258
>make buffs multiplicative
this is ridiculous, you would have 8k hp jins and 3k reflex everywhere. If they wanted to bring debuffs up to par with buffs they could make them apply to the total after the opponents buffs are taken into account but they would have to rebalance all the debuffs.
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>>121390520
Meta is strong but not domineering, Beth is literally 0 spirit to make it so you always get a free shot on their goalie and block the first shot on your goalie by killing whoever has the ball when it hits the line from 3 steal attempts.
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>>121388517
>ATB recovery
No
I don't want Milky to be useless
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>>121389587
That's what Im doing since I only have them both at one superb and I dont have any SHoTs to go around, too busy trying to scrounge up a Terranox for blade so I can give away her SHoT. I dont have bell and my jury isnt even 3spu so my midlane is alot worse off than it could be.
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>>121388517
Add to that: action speed, reflexes, attack power.
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Is Beth good if I don't want to use Meta? I like Jury and have no plan to move her to the frontline.
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>>121388517
>btw I use Sharr
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>>121391607
He didn't mention because her nerfs are coming soon :^)
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>>121388517
>btw I use Sharr
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>>121391460
Yes. Free action bar recovery.
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I'm actually so retarded.
I was was only rerolling the first drop you get in the tutorial and not using my crystals afterwards.
I couldn't understand why I was only getting 4 stars. Took me over 60 rerolls to even figure it out.
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If I wanted to add Magnus to a rainbow team, who should I bench? I've got a super generic Kiki/Yuri/Mikael line right now.
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>>121391460
JuryBeth won't be all that great because there's no synergy

You see MetaBeth or Beth in speed buffed 4mids because you need to make an effort to give her a turn, or else you're gonna have a case where Beth never actually gets a turn while people are getting killed left and right and the ball's going front and back repeatedly

Meta solves this problem because she's *probably* going to get her turn if her line's action bar is generally more full than the opposite's
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>>121392273
I thought I was stupid, but I am so sorry anon.
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>>121392273
Thanks for making me feel better about myself
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>>121392342
Is Yuri better backline than Kevin?
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worth feeding a littre to nerua to get a dupe for 1600 gp?
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>>121392273
>over 60 rerolls
wow, that's some dedication
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>>121392342
You should bench Kiki out imo, unless she has more superb than Yuri.
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>>121393153
Should've had two hypermaxed Neruas so you can recall one to get a hypermaxing Shosho
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>>121393153
>Littre: 1 superb for anything
>1600gp: 1 superb for anything that's not S2 or a legendary, but only if it happens to show up in scouts
If the second sounds better to you, then go for it.
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>>121393153
Unless you need that GP to get a legend or Lucy, this is straight up retarded.
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>>121393658
>Completely ignoring the shosho you get that carries the superbs
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>>121394336
That's not how it works anon
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>>121394336
What superbs? The only superbs in the scenario he's suggesting is the one he adds with a littre, then immediately rainbows off to trade in for 1600gp.
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>>121393153
You easily could if there was something in scout RIGHT NOW that has value to you
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>>121389587
just give them crit and crit damage
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>>121394662
>Nerua with 5 superbs
>Dismantle with Rainbow elemental
>Keep a copy of Nerua
>Recall Nerua with 4 superbs
>Sho Sho MK2 4 superbs + 1600 GP
>Enjoy to switch striker
I see no problem here
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>>121397614
I dunno why people are acting like Leventor is actually going to care about Magnus, its Blade who is getting buried
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>>121397809
Leventor is like Sharr except that Sharr is a broken, they don't give a shit.
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>save 2000 crystals because I only need the legendaries at this point
>Miho is announced
>she sounds perfect for my team
>roll a whole lot of nothing (and Vivid)
>start saving more gems to roll again while Miho is featured
>use my free roll today
>blue star
>it's Miho
Guess I'm not getting any legendaries anytime soon.

Blogposting aside, can she take Nerua's place in this comp? Or should I move Kiki to the front instead? I got most of the non frontline totems, but since none of them are WW, I'm not quite sure what's the best choice.
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>>121398012
He won't care if he crits.
If people uses shit Leventors without SHoT and whatever else whale's uses on him, then he'll be really weak.
Good I'm a bronzie so I don't have to deal with that.
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>>121398195
>using Jeunese
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>>121398195
Why take Nerua off? Wouldn't you just lack too much CR?
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>>121398195
>non-frontline
Make that "frontline", typos are dumb, I'm dumb.
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>>121398336
Because she was nerfed and I can refund her to feed the Sho Sho to someone else. That said, it seems like she's still pretty good, so it's just another option I considered.

>>121398331
He's not ST'd exactly because he's the weakest link on my team, yeah. He's there mostly because I might transition into WW-Dark, using Baltheon and all.
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How much people here actually bought meta/beth or rerolled for them?
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>>121399286
I bought both. No, I didn't refund for it or anything
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Anyone here using milky in the mid and is in champs or higher?
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>>121399286
Some people are just lucky with draws/scout, anon. about 80% whaled for them
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>>121399286
I rerolled for an alt with legendaries I liked better than my main. Didn't have to be Meta, but she's who I ended up with.
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>lv 30 box was Beth
>not Khirel
I am really, really disappointed. I liked her evo skin and her abilities, but she isn't what I ever needed.
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Does Vonchi's active stack reset when he die?
Or does he get to keep his stack the whole game?
At this point he seem like a no time limit Kirin without Brainwave rebuff
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>>121399930
>Does Vonchi's active stack reset when he die?
No, but WoM does unfortunately.
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>>121399930

Lasts forever iirc
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>>121399815
Reroll that bitch has no ass
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>>121400032
I wish that update would've gone sooner, I was lv80 by then.
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>>121399976
What about Teranox?
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>>121397614
Should I really change my striker and run the bottom team pic related? Of course I will improve some Players like Sammy.
Or is it better to bench Kiki and invest in Raklet Totem for more CR?
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>>121400839
>btw im gay
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>>121400839
>nigger meme
What?
>Nicki minaj
Not liking flat asses =/= liking niggers
A small round ass is much better than an obscenely big ass
Flat is shit on asses, on chests its fine
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>>121400839
>mad as fuck because his waifu is an asslet
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For a strict PVE/colo goalie, should I invest in my Zibori or Isillia?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfh3OJkzGmg&feature=youtu.be
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>>121402228

I believe ripboi is better in colo
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>>121402228
I think Zibroi would do better on Colo 36 but Latios is everywhere in colo
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>>121402351
>implying Leventor gives a solitary fuck

Blade however is fucking crying
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>>121402953
>using blade
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>>121402468
>>121402760

Duly noted. Thanks guys
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>>121401643
>on chests its fine
Get a load of this fag
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>>121403514
>not liking flat/small chests
baka desu senpai
I bet you like snowballs
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>>121403581
baka senpai
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I don't know if anyone's mentioned/put a reminder yet but pen works on totem-based elemental damage reductions

100 pen basically makes Magnus worth 15% damage reduction instead of 30
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>>121404079

100 pen usually means the GK is dead if you crit
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>>121404349
I dont think Leventor can one shot a BT with 70% DR + Magnus or Chitose even if he crits
can he?
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>>121404349
anon don't be silly, I could go 1/0/0/5 with 300 dribble and still hit 100 pen on LukaLev

The important part here is that Magnus does much less against Lev than it would against Sharr
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>>121404531
Sharr buffs when?
Sharr cant be lower than the best striker
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>>121404349
baka senpai desu
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I have a 2 superb Nerua. If I dismantle her and retrun 3 Nerua, would I have 3 Sho Sho that I can use as 3 Litere and 4800 GP?
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Post teams
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>>121404739

You can only recall once. Maybe you should l2read anon.
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>>121404772
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>>121404772

So? >>121401323
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>>121404965

How does that Milky Way work, does she just ram through the person in front of her with 90% AB?
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>>121405284
yeah, I usually move her to the side so she wont attack jury/meta or pass cause of a 4 man mid right at the start
she takes out most people in 2-3 hits and gets those 2-3 before the enemy gets a turn unless they have an IC mid
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>>121404801
So if I return a 2 superb Nerua I would get a 2 superb Shosho. Is that equivalent of 3 Litteres or 2 Litteres?
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>>121405518
wtf?

2.
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>>121400626
Would work, I guess? But he doesn't get crit rate from ANY of his abilities if I am not wrong. WoM is probably the best spirit stone for him.
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>>121405582
The shosho itself doesn't counted as 1?
It take 3 Nerua to get a 2 superb Nerua
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>>121406270
no it does not count.
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Nice magnus, kei
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>>121399519
so i guess no one does
guess I can be the first here once I get to champs
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>>121406270
1600 (1 Nerua) + 1 Superb (1 Nerua) + 1 Superb (1 Nerua) = 3 Nerua


How is this not painfully obvious?
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I have some questions

1. Anyone who has seen and/or fought against a top quality mono Ardor deck? Do you have screen shots or maybe tell me about its formation.

2. I want my Noa to reach max potential but I want to check what /ssg/ thinks about my approach. I currently use Red Receive Pass, Teranox Blood, and Blue Receive Pass. Noa's passer is Nari with Yuri(sometimes switch for Ari due to suicidal tendencies) for more pass effect. Please give me your idea.
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>>121404772
>>121406584
here's my team

I got the phone case today, too
it's shit
they fucked up the cropping and the material looks like styrofoam.
my mousepad came out alright, though.
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>>121406998
nice team
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>>121406998
Nice team senpai
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>>121406998
>>121407096
woops.
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>>121406584
>noa
she's doomed to fail and so are you if you continue to use her. it's literally canon
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>>121407195
>>121407301
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>>121375868
Let them kill themselves on your frontline
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>>121407195
Raklet is cuter
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>>121404642
>tfw I have Sharr, Lev, Beatrice and Lucid

No matter what BB does, I will always make you upset.
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>>121388517
nerf everything by 80% besides Sharr
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>>121407195
I admire your ardor determination a little.
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>>121407195
>>121407301
Thanks for the references anons.

I see. I will keep fighting with Noa though. Thanks.
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My nerua's got two superbs. She doesn't do much in the backline except for very rarely reflex steal, but she only has like 1200 reflexes so those are more bs than anything on her part.

Should I just get 1600 gp out of her or a superb to toss somewhere else? I could max out isillia instead of waiting for my next scout for her.
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>>121408430
you should be able to answer this yourself.
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>>121407195
where'd you get the images to make that?
is there one with Anael?
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>>121408863
BAKA DESU SENPAI
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>>121408653
Well, I wouldn't be replacing her but maxing isillia now is tempting.

That said I don't need to scout any other superbs for my team besides her either. Was thinking about scouting silks or something and start working on waifus. Or start scouting Sharrs
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>>121408936
I want to impregnate Anael
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Have anyone ever seen Choi+Vonchi frontline yet?
I always wonder if it worth whaling for
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>>121409217
I called her first
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>>121409553

Don't whale for S2 legendaries since you most likely won't get them.
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>>121409553
I have however seen a Vonchi+Milky+Jeneuse front, its fairly effective.
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Anyone else keep getting useless S2 cards?
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>>121374004
So with the new changes, how strong is Black Ivy right now?
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>>121409823

Yes.

Serestia
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>>121409687
Fuck I got S1 instead
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>>121409823
>got B.Ivy, 2x Harus, Asakura, BT, Shanti, Chitose and VF
>Only wanted Chitose, VF and Renee
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>>121410152
fuck you
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>>121410152
fuck you bombypupe
>drew 3 Mihos
how much crystals did you drop
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>>121410676
refunding is free
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>>121410676
Well I bought the legend pack and the first of the 10 packs. So $200 worth of crystals just now

>>121410834
No I haven't refund once since they denied it awhile back
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Any ideas on when the superb pack is coming back? I really need the rainbow
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>>121405437
Doesn't this backfire horribly if they have Jury and they start with the ball?
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>>121406159
>>121400626

I run Teranox with my Vonchi, for the reason that WoM resetting hurt much more than Teranox AP buff resetting.

For Vonchi to hit good crit rate with Teranox, you need either Milky front for her active buff or have excellent ghost stats + a crit totem (like Luka, who have both 20% crit and 20% AS, that also gives about 4% crit).

I'm running Teranox Blood/Light Crit/Light Dribble/Icecore Prism.

With 26% crit from ghost stats.

Pic is my Vonchi's stat using only his active, no pass of any kind in a Baltheon/Luka line.
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>>121411262
Middle of the month
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>>121411345
my Milky starts well over 2k reflexes and just goes higher so she'll usually steal, after one attack she wont attack again unless she does a lot of damage, which she doesnt to Jury, so it doesnt really matter
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>Miho's base reflex is 650 after maxing out
She has the lowest reflex in my entire team besides my striker
It's almost distressing
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>>121411837
Well she is the most utility healer now isn't she?
I mean a healer with HP/reflex totem and AB/spirit sap. What more can you want.
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>>121411837
Why is her art so S H I T
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>>121412046
A good art
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>>121412261
>>121412274
>6s diff
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>>121411837
What's her as? My main issue with her is that her as looks like it's going to be abysmal even after investment.
I only have her evolved level 50 right now and she's like 47 as I think.
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>>121412261
cause of fullcolorlining
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Just scouted Ravian for the 2nd time in a couple hours.
I'm tempted to buy her just because she is blocking me from several chains.
Is it worth it?
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Anyone got the link to the Spirit Stone set up guide? Can't find it in the OP
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>>121412643
If those chains are actually good, yes I guess.
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>>121412717
Just for the dstones. Don't remember what specifically, but there were like 5-6 at least that I can't do just because I don't have her.
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>>121412835
If you think it's worth it. At least for me who barely take my time to do chains, I wouldn't as I could scout some superb for Magnus ( need 2 more ) and Isillia so I could bench my BT.
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3 littre, 2 beelze and Isillia sup in scout today.
Feels good.
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>>121413636
Fuck you. I haven't been able to scout a single Isillia since her EE came out. That's all I've wanted to finish my team for months now.
I'm 4 chains from buying her at least.
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>>121413886
>buying a 5*
I got her like in under a month after I wanted her
are you throwing all your gold at scout?
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>>121414045
I've spent at least 3-4million. At this point I'd rather just buy her and get it over with and save gold for stones.
And since the only thing dstones are going to get me at this point are uniques, why not just get Isillia now guaranteed instead of wasting an unknown amount of gold trying to scout her?
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Here's my current team. Someone stop me from scouting Isillia and MSPUing her. I feel like my Zibroi is made of paper.
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>>121414287
>And since the only thing dstones are going to get me at this point are uniques,
are you saying you have all the good legends? or you wont be able to get 900 soon?
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>>121411837
them some sexy fluffies anon
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>>121414405
I have Meta/Beth and don't want anything not named Bell after that, and Bell isn't essential to my team anyway.
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>>121414352
You want to be raped by thunder strikers?
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>>121414352

>metabethduke
>godventor
>ripboi

for fuck's sake anon what the hell
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>>121414352
dont get isillia, keep zibroi pls
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>used Luka and Enthia as ST mats long ago
>cant find them anywhere in story mode to complete nemesis chains
this sucks
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>>121415267
I have a few of those going on right now. Why oh why did I not do chains sooner?
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BEST GIRL
BEST LEGENDARY
BEST UTILITY PLAYER
BEST ART
BEST WAIFU
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>>121417914
>utility
What kind of utility?
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>>121417914
>BEST ART
>BEST WAIFU
thats not anael or chitose though
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>>121417914
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>>121414496
>Only want Meta/Beth/Bell
I have Meta/Beth/Bell and they are not enough anon. 2/3 of them are Leader aren't enough to carry you in end game. You should at least go for a Shu for Pve and Duke or Jin for PvP. I would say that all of Season 1 Legendary are necessary except for William. Even Leventor can be used as a ball holder in other line
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>>121417992
As the team bicycle
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>>121418116

How fucking whalemode is endgame pvp when you say that meta/beth/bell is not enough on a team, jesus christ. You're telling me that building a team with those 3 players is not enough in end game and you need even MORE legendaries to compete with other people at that level?

Shit's fucked, yo.
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God damn Black Ivy is insane now with the buff changes.
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>>121418116
No.
If I wanted to just run mono legendary I would focus on that. I don't.
I don't want Jin, nor do I need him. I don't want duke, and I don't need Shu.
MetaBeth is plenty. Bell I would just want because she's cute.
Waifus only on my starting team, and that's why I'm buying Isillia.
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>>121418116
Duke is meh
I have him fully superb and I rather use Hilde instead of him
Especially when using Meta/Beth mid
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>>121418618
a good midline isn't gonna do as much as a good backline/frontline in colo especially

>>121418757
>Duke is meh
are you using reflex stones on him? he can easily reach 2k+ reflexes and have enough to steal from others
he's the best attacker for a reason
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>>121418757
Hild is a good unit but when you're going up against the Beth/Meta/Duke whale line not having that reflex totem is huge.

Dukes reflex totem makes him by far the best attacker in the game, he's a Mikael who can do Hild damage.
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>According to SSG Hiro have trouble to land crits in end game
Bronzies, will they ever learn?
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>>121418757
If I decide to replace Silla as my left mid, I plan to use Lucius. But that won't be for a while because, you know, you don't just get mats all willy-nilly.
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Which legendary is best for penetrating in colo? I'm nearing the 900 mark in dstones and starting to wonder who I should pick,
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>>121419141
Beth or Shu
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>>121419084
>5x Metatron's Will
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>>121419084
>posting an image from months ago
>5 WoM stacks
nice try shitposter-kun

>>121419141
for the backline, Shu cause he can infinite
mid would be Bell or Duke
if I had a Bell I could say who's better from the two but sadly I dont
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>>121419084

>Hiro with only 25% Pen

Absolutely disgusting.
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>>121419276
Ssssh. don't say that. He just copied that pic and didn't know how to actually do that.
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>>121418904
Well I'm currently using Beth Meta Lia(With IC) and Hilde mid with Cynthia somewhere in back line

At first I was using Duke for maximum Reflex but after awhile no matter how much reflex/rebuff I stack I rarely ever reflex steal.
Then after I try switch him for Hilde for action bar fuckery mid somehow it just work. Especially if we start with the ball.

I still use Duke for PVE tho
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>>121419607
>4 man mid with Meta
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>>121419607

>4 man midline with metatron

You don't deserve her. Seriously.
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>Just beat 30 on auto
God damn I love being able to auto shit and not have to pout forth any effort.
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>>121419607
You should seriously consider using a 4thunder instead if you were looking for a 4man mid that can overpower any 3man line
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>>121418748
>>121418618

Isilla is not gonna help you in endgame. She s good but not enough. Duke, Jin, Khirel, Leventor, Shu all have their role and they perform much better than their 5* counterpart. When you reach the endgame, there are only whales; so you have to be one yourself. I am trying to buy Duke so I can get of this Diamond Hell
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>>121418618
>How fucking whalemode is endgame pvp
Uniques are more important than anything else once you have Meta/Beth and I would honestly argue that Beths more important of the two.
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>>121417914
What a lame ass waifu
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>>121419215
>>121419306
Last I heard shu wasn't as good as he used to be for colo. Is he still worth it?

Unsure about Beth/Bell because they won't benefit from my Aslan.

How's Khirel considered in PvE?
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Mamuru >Soft
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>>121420098
You don't need to whale to get out of diamond.

Just use Sharr instead
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>>121420709
>Last I heard shu wasn't as good as he used to be for colo.
I dont know where you heard that but nothing changed after the 100% nerf, but he can still infinite
he's still a colo god
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>>121420098
>Stuck in diamond
>Talking about how you need to whale to get out of Diamond
Nope, I'm pretty sure you are just shit.
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Someone explain whaling to me
I'm a newfriend to /ssg/
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>>121420098

There's a guy who got to champions using a monothunder team with no legendaries and fucking griffith as the striker.

The harsh truth is that you're just shit.
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>>121421627
Or mono thunder is just too powerful.
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>>121421627
>mono thunder
better than a team of legends
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>>121421624
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>>121421627
There's also that one guy who uses the Guin striker in champs.

I saw a Hild striker there once as well.
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>>121421627
Are there any Zibrois in champs? I need hope.
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>>121422152
Most 12k+TA teams should get in Champs

11KTA teams that only have one or two things great should get there too

10k waifu team with nothing to it asking to get in Champs is just selfish
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Who's the coolest motherfucker in SS and why is it Khirel?
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Thoughts on Griffith? Just got her.
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>>121423334
Because he can bend his body in weird ways no one can decypher
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Should I be doing this?

The only players I have hypermaxed are Isilla and Ravian so hypermaxing two players at this point still means a lot to me, but I should hypermax Sharr and Nari right?
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>>121423334

Why is Khirel's reflex so shit?

Why doesn't he have a dark stone slot?

Why is CAR only available on dark stones?

Fuck I really want to take him off the bench, but he's literally only a totem.
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>>121423471
>using serestia
Just collect those littres and use them when you really need to. Or do it to Meta, since she's an OP legend afterall.
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why is mono thunder allowed

>>121423525
just throw him in the backline with yuri + Nerua and he'll be well over 60%
add in Anael if you want
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>>121423471
>Maxing two strikers
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>>121423340
pray for an EE
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>>121423471
You wanted to be Ravian cancer, you stay Ravian cancer.
We Sharrfags don't want your kind.
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>>121423334
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Bell is my only legendary. I'm at 815/900 for a new legendary.

Do you think I should go mono thunder and grab leventor? Or grab something else?
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>>121423686

I don't run that back line, that is the problem.
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>>121423847
>implying Sharr isn't as cancerous as Ravian

Sharrfags.
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>>121423692
>Not being able to do any PVE content because your main striker is Ravian
Yes, it's really great.
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>>121423874
Yes. Thunder is already the best mono. What are you waiting for?
but prepare for the rise of WW
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>>121423340
She'll never get an EE, but if she does, she'll be just as bad as Sharr if not worse because. They both have Specialized Shoots, so if she gets EE that might get upgraded, so she'll end up being immune to Jin and The terror of all light gks worse than Godventor ever was.
>monothunder

>>121423874
Yes

>>121423952
I didn't say she wasn't. I said he chose that cancer, he can stay that cancer. At least sharrfags like sharr as a waifu, while ravian fags just want the easy wins.
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>>121423952
anyone that switches between cancer strikers is the worst kind of cancer after mono thunder

>>121424039
>but prepare for the rise of WW
>implying its not gonna be ardor
just watch that ardor player that reduces elemental damage be better than Nerua
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>>121424064
>sharrfags like sharr as a waifu
>ravianfags just want the easy wins

Sharrfags.
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>>121423874

Might as well. You could also wait till season 2's thunder legendary comes around. It'll probably be buyable when season 3 starts in march.
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>>121424064
>like sharr as a waifu
Sure you do. Until she gets nerfed.
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>>121423334
Ronald, because he looks like Scar from FMA
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>>121424207
not him but I used her before her buffs so her being nerfed wont do anything to change that
the only reason I'd change strikers is if BB adds an ardor/light loli striker
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>>121424347
You're only saying that because your cancer striker is viable. If you weren't able to clear shit with her because every fucking boss nowadays gets a 50% heal slapped on them you'd be talking differently.
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>>121424347
Basically this really. Shanti is pretty cool too, but she's WW, so she'd never work with Renee.
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>>121424501
anon do you know how shit she was before her buffs?
if I cant clear a boss cause of the heal, I'll think of another way to do it, or just drop a ton of crystals if I like the boss rather than whining in this thread
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>>121424756
Oh yeah, sure, please tell me how you'd deal with someone like Aslan if your striker was nowhere even near capable of oneshotting her?
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>>121424501
You're also implying she would be dead after a nerf. None of the players nerfed so far have been nerfed to the point of unusable or shit tier.
Elaine got harsher punishment than I've almost ever seen in a nerf in any game I've played, yet she's still pretty good.
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What are the Clon Ds from the current boss for? Literally nothing? What is this boss even for? Is he even a boss?

Also how good are the current rivals? I was superbing the pool look since I'm still working on a mono thunder team but her skills don't really look useful.
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>>121424945
>implying Sharr can one shot the GK
I dont have Balth or anything but with just a BD I had to knock out the defender like everyone else, and even then I need to do 20+ battles before I could one shot the GK
why am I replying to you
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None of you understand the pain of a waifufag. When your butt crits nute for 300, but you just can't change her to any other striker.
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>>121425215

If your Butt crit Nute for 300, it just means that you're a shit player, unworthy of Butt.
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>>121425215

What are you even smoking? Beatrice is one of the better non-legendary strikers at the moment.
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>>121424973
PvP heal nerf made a lot of things go from decent to shit tier as a casualty to making OP things be decent you know
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>>121425094
need 6 to evolve fontus along with 1 of each 4* drops
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>>121407195
I'm sorry anon
I was almost worried when your Sage got an active pass, but Duke countered him like every other attacker

>>121425215
>Beatrice
She's much better than a lot of other strikers though
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>>121425215
>When your butt crits nute for 300
You don't deserve her you faggot.

Beatrice isn't a bad striker, it's just that she requires more investment than Sharr to reach about the same result. With SHoT + 4 person front for guaranteeing crits + IC Nari/Luka + Nera somewhere else in the team, she becomes great.
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>>121425172
>He needed to do 20+ battles to oneshot Aslan with Sharr
Holy shit, how bad.
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>>121425395
Not understanding your point.
Sharr is "op", so she'd still be decent after nerf. You just agreed with me.
Heal nerf wasn't a direct nerf to anyone either.
The only way they nerf Sharr is via nerfing Specialized Shoots, which would still be good after nerf.
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>>121425664
well I only had an unevolved Black Daisy, no Balth, no Iggy, no Meiran
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>>121425715
"None" doesn't really translate to "just Sharr"
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>>121424945
If you invest in Cynthia she's an incredible makeshift striker for those matches, I had to use her for Edward since my Hiro couldn't kill the GK.
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>>121425715
>Specialized Shoots
>Nerfing Griffith
N-no ;_;
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>>121425715
>Heal nerf wasn't a direct nerf to anyone either.
He didn't say it directly nerfed anyone you mongoloid. He said it made things go from decent to shit tier, and that's precisely true.
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>>121426115
ah, yes. g'day mate
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>>121426105
>nerf Griffith
>gets an EE
I don't see anything wrong here.
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>>121425859
What? I said no one nerfed so far, as in specific player nerfs: Milky, Elaine, Nerua, Magnus (not really a nerf, but still).
All of them are still relatively good. So there is no reason to believe that even if Sharr gets nerfed she won't be at least good, which brings us back to the point that this whole debate about her getting nerfed and all the sharrfags/waifufags being mad she is shit is pointless.

>>121425664
No one one shot that gk if they didn't have a significantly powerful setup. It doesn't matter what your team is if you don't have mats/uniques to back it up. Quit being a retard.

>>121426115
My point was his point is irrelevant because that wasn't a nerf to a specific player. It was a nerf to a game mechanic you fucktard.
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>>121424574
This slut?
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>>121426573
The cheeks would be worth it.
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>>121426716
>cheeks
>not going for the horns
pleb
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>>121426254
Heal nerf may as well have been a targeted nerf that brought Godbroi down to the saddest little GK that he is now. No one else particularly mattered to cause the change except the potential Lucian EE.
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>tfw 3 ardor lolis but can't use any of them on my team
>>121424347
If ardor keeps getting lolis ill have to switch from monoww to lia ace. I just need a loli striker to use with renee
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Can someone explain to me how CAR works?

I know only ever have a 60% chance to be stolen from and that 60% chance is dependent on reflex comparisons.

So does it work like, I have 500 reflex, you have 1000. Because your reflex is double mine you have a 60% chance to steal. But I also have 60% CAR so that cancels out the 60% chance to steal and you cant steal from me.

Is that right or no?
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>>121426829
It doesn't matter what it basically was, the point of this discussion is what it is. Anything else is irrelevant, and bringing those points in just derails things into pointless shitflinging like what just happened.
I don't care about your semantics, it was a mechanic nerf, not a player nerf, completely different from what would happen to Sharr based on the trends of the recall system.
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I Finally found Vitos in scout.
Considering my team, I was really interesting in him.
1) Worth it?
2) Best line for him? Vitos-Balth-Luka or Vitos-Balth-Silla
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>>121426935
CA = (your reflex - enemy reflex) / 10, maxed at 60%

100% CAR = you will never get CA'ed.

60% CA to a 60%CAR enemy = you get 36% chance to CA.
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>>121425521
>jakenkun
still enjoying your Elaine ace
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>>121427161
I would say silla because you will want your active pass to be Balth, and the point of Luka besides her utility is the pen on pass.
If you want to use Vitos go for it. He's probably good, but no one has seen or used him enough to confirm it.
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> 5th Beelze of the week

God damn, son.
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>>121425094
Someone tell me about the water loli. Why does she wear the mask? And is she good?
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>>121427353
Vitos without EoG is shit. Just put him mid and see him wreck the line by himself.
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>>121427353
Although, I just remembered Luka has a red stone slot for ebm/ic, and vitos/balth line is slow as shit. So that might actually be better.
Dunno. Like I said, not a big enough sample size to work off of.
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>tfw Renee still isnt back in the rotation
BB pls I just want the cutie

>>121427283
I'm using Anael now though, I only had Elaine up cause I thought she'd get me fp
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>>121427198
24% chance to CA.
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Jesus christ Jakenkun kun shut the fuck up, i hope Sharr gets nerfed to oblivion.
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>>121427625
Yeah fuck Jakekun.
Reminder that Denkoko doesn't use Sharr.
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>>121427625
I stopped talking about Sharr a while ago though
I hope she gets nerfed too though, people will finally stop shitposting about her
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>>121423334
Avnore is coolest mofo
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>>121427625
>i hope Sharr gets nerfed to oblivion.
Sharr is shit though
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>>121427738
That won't fix the problem. People will just start shitposting about whatever is the next best thing, aka godventor, ravian more, Isillia, etc.
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>>121427917
thats fine, as long as its not any of my favorite players
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>>121427353
>>121427502
>>121427517
Damn Vitos' chains are bullshit though.
Just compared him with Lucid and she has a nemesis chain with Silla & Nari.
The struggle is real, I was waiting for him to appear and now I might not scout him.
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>>121428070
Don't forget about the Beth affection chain for Vitos. Give her the V.
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>>121428026
Your waifus are shit tho
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>Silk try to steal from Vonchi
>get critted for 2500 damage and dies

Holy shit.
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>>121428243
don't start
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>>121427917
>People will just start shitposting about whatever is the next best thing
it's fine, people can't complain until the time they're also absolutely everywhere

Just think about how long Sharr and Ravian took to get to this current point despite being mostly untouched since Feb and starting to be comparatively better than others since April that brought both weathers and Nerua
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>>121428374
Anael and Chitose are great though
>>
Isn't it about time that S2 legendaries got their EE's? Been about 6 months since their release iirc.

I'm curious to see how broken Vonchi's EE makes him.
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>>121428749
>Shitose
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>>121428168
Beth affection -> +20% HP & Defense
Lucid Nemesis against Silla or Nari -> +30% HP & Power

Damn there is nothing in favor of Vitos
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>>121427452
Pls respond
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>>121428823
>There isn't even all S2 Legendaries
>Talking about S2 legends EE
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>>121427161
Use Vitos-Silla-Luka for pvp

Use Vitos-totem or silla-Baltheon for pve
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>>121428823

>I'm curious to see how broken Vonchi's EE makes him.

His shot scaling to 25% per stack will be strong as fuck. Not as front loaded as Leventor, but over the course of 2 shots, it would give 25 + 50 or a total of 75% total modifier over the course of 2 shots. While Leventor get 60% for only his first.

Leventor will still be stronger if he kills in the first shot, if not Vonchi will scale higher and higher.

I doubt Clutch Moment will get upgraded, it already is his strongest skill and literally better than Summoning Hades. His Pen + Reflex skill is strong too, so it will most likely be the 50% movement speed skill, a secondary damage modifier to it?

Also, Serestia EE when?
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Does anyone have a mspu Elaine with reflex stones that they can post the stats of? I'm assuming 2k reflexes but I'm curious
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>>121428851
Nice meme
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>>121428823
Great idea, lets give season 2 legendaries their EEs before even releasing 1 full set of legendaries

6 fucking months now and no WW or Thunder legendary

inb4 "why does it matter, you won't draw her anyway", kill yourself
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Still waiting for that Uriel buff.
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>>121429584
It's not like you'd ever get them anyways.
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>>121429584
>Her
If Light and Ardor can't have qt waifus you can't either. I hope your legendaries are ogre tier.
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>>121427607
>Still waiting on Shanti
Although I think I would kill for a real frontline totem for WW.
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>>121429584
we all know WW can only have male Legendary anon
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>>121427161
Fuck it
0-4 Lucid
5-9 Vitos
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>>121430526

>switching from a cute waifu to an ugly pos

Why not just switch to Sharr if you're going that route anyway
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>>121427161
Is Vito good now or is it a brand new meme?
I know he just got buff but is it that good?
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>>121374004
For the love of god someone send me some superbs and a terranox
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>>121430698
>brand new meme?
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>>121430526
Stick with Lucid
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>>121430678
>lucid
>cute
>Vitos
>ugly
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>>121430698
It's a lot of crit damage
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>>121430874
It's too late, he can't turn back now
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>>121430874
and get rekt in pvp?
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>>121430698
Nope he's bad stick with your sharr/ravian.
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>>121430526
What do you care about more?
PvP? Vitos
PvE? Lucid
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>>121430526
You'll want both. Lucid is the queen of pve
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>>121430698
He's always been great, but all the keis and Isillias running around hurt him, people running magnus was just an extra kick in the teeth. he should be able to stand out now with the current changes and all that crit damage.
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>>121427452
>>121428908
Maybe someday someone will tell me. I have no clue whether or not investing into 4 stars is even a good idea
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>My Ravian do 200 damage to their Isillia
>their Sharr kick 1300 none crit to my BT
Did I pick the wrong side of cancer?
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>>121431109
That's not how you spell Sharr.
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>>121431168
Your ravian does team wide damage
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>>121431168
>2hko

I dont see the problem.
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>>121431168
>200
+ 20% to the team
Are you using a Magnus? Silla ace?
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>>121430725
>blade
>blade without terranox
>no bell
>1 spu jury
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Lucid is really so bad for PvP?
I would go for Lucid.
1) PvE is the most important part of the game
2) BB can still change her passive or introduce some new featuring as AI Modifiers in Season 3
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>>121431806
Without Solar Eclipse, Lucid's damage is extremely mediocre.

With Solar Eclipse and a frontline which focuses all out on damage and pass effect (Yuri + Baltheon + Lucid), her damage is enormous and she can reach 7000+ dribble. Sharr is still better for PvE though :^)
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>>121431806
>PvE is the most important part of the game
Completely subjective.
>BB can still change her passive...
Probably won't happen, and relying on the hope of a buff has proven time and time again to be a poor and ineffective way of playing the game.
I'm not saying that's wrong, you play how you want, but to suggest it's viable is just lying.
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>>121431806
1.Well she basically only has Critrate, Pen and 30% first move going for her
you could do much better with the same set up but with different Striker

2.look what happen to Uriel and Bora
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>>121431806
Being consistently in higher Colo reward level is more rewarding than being in higher PvP league so that's something to think about

You really want Baltheon for Lucid PvE though
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What floor is the cutoff for 100 crystals in CoD and what's the average TA it takes to get there?
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>>121431992
Sharr is better for everything
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New guy here. Got Miho on my starter rolls and I really wanna keep her despite the FAQ saying to go for striker. I'll just try scouting one. What should I be aiming for? Beatrice? Sharr? Ravian? I want to be able to do both pvp and pve with it.
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Ok I am rank 34 and going to scout kei in an hour am I fucked or did I do good. Going ardor/light
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>>121432421
get the free 5 star from your second day login and play till rank 30 to see what your legendary is, then decide what you want to do from there.

you have nothing to worry about in early game
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>>121432421
Sharr and Ravian for easy mode unless the meta changes anytime soon, otherwise Beatrice is still useable. You're not going to be reaching Champs anytime soon which is where the meta actually begins to make a difference, and by then it could possibly change.

I'd pick whichever you end up scouting first, but personally I'd pick Beatrice because she has the best butt.
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>>121432726
Don't get kei. He's bad nowadays.
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>>121432351
37, my PvE team is like 9k, TA doesn't matter a lot though
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>>121432421
>Got Miho on my starter rolls and I really wanna keep her despite the FAQ saying to go for striker.
The FAQ is a bit flawed in that sense.

If you haven't realized yet, all regular season 2 units (units released after May 2015) are draw-only, so of course it can be argued that getting a good season 2 unit is far more valuable than a striker or GK (when you start) because you can easily scout later on.

Sharr would be your best bet right now, but from all the strikers in the game she has the highest chance of being nerfed by the end of the year.
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>>121432421
Well the usually rule of thumb is
S2 Legendary
S1 Legendary
Sharr/Ravian
some of the S2 5*
S1 5* Striker

I say just go for it
as long as you dont get William at lv30 as your single Legendary then you will be fine
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>>121432421
this isnt PAD anon, you'll be completely fine without having to reroll. just do some draws and see what you get from there I'd say, there's no telling what you'll get from your draws and from your lvl30 legendary box anyway so dont stress over it too much.
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>>121432351
37
TA is completely irrelevant for Colo so that's not even worth discussing. You could have a maxed frontline with NariBeth mid, leave the rest of your team as extras, and you would have beaten 37 with a 4kTA team
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>>121432845

So I should rough it with ogre until I find a better GK?
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>>121421627
What's the no legend Griffith thunder lineup?
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>>121432819
>best butt
>not Anael

>>121432890
S2 legendaries aren't very good right now though and we have no idea how/when their EE will be
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>>121424154
>tfw I run Ravian PvP and switch between Sharr and mono thunder lineup for pve

Kek
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>>121433029
Butt will always have the best butt.

It is literally the best drawn butt in the game.
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>>121433029
the only one that isnt good is Serestia
and the chance of her getting good at EE still there
Vonchi and Choi are already good
and them being S2 Legendaries make them even more exclusive and leave you the no headache of getting dup Legend at lv 30 as well
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>>121432307
Nari isn't that much worse
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>>121433368
Seriously?

Nari is terrible for PvE. In PvE you almost always want all out damage (Baltheon) for OHKO strikers or some utility (Silla) when it's going to take multiple shots (e.g. WoM Uriel).
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>>121433368
That's a really understating how they compare

You get crit rate and sprit that you don't need from Nari while you miss out on 60% crit damage from Balth's active + Silent Cold, and Balth has a significantly better stone slot set + passive combo

Nari's meant for PvP stability with crit rate and Provoke
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>>121432969
kei is pretty good and can be used endgame but the no.1 gk right now is Isillia
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>>121433029
The best butt in the game belongs to sophie or grace. How can you even make any judgement about anael's butt when you literally cant even see it.

Her hips are top tier, yes, but we know nothing about her ass itself.
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>500ST
help
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>>121425094
>>121427452
>>121428908
>>121431134
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>>121434127
No, rivals are not worth using unless you're new. Except for that one old rival which has the action bar fuckery.
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>>121434127
Rivals are not good to invest in, no. Don't use littres on anything less than a 5* and don't use stats on a 4* unless it's a pve specific 4* after you've maxed everything else that doesn't have a niche use in pve.
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>>121433212
>>121433940
>best drawn butt
>not Beta
I don't have to see Anael's to know its the best
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>>121433815
Damn I have been sitting on this kei for 3 days. I guess Ill keep scouting then.
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>>121434559
He's still good. If you like him or want him, get him.
However, he is by no means the best right now. Isillia does dr way better than he does and is also scoutable and a waifu.
Lucian confirmed for EE never, BT is draw only, Jin is a legendary, Ripboi is rip, Raklet is is not a good gk, Nute is a boss, and new ardor gk is also draw only.
So really, your best option is to just get Kei or hope for Isillia. Not having a gk is a bad idea.
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>>121432726
Scout Kei. He may not be a mandatory scout like the old days but if you got Ardor/Light then there is no reason to skip him. He is the 2nd best GK for Ardor Light only behind Isilla
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>having 2 passers at full AB
>Striker still dead
>they active pass to each other waste 2 bar of spirit
>Striker then revive and take the ball to shoot at GK for 400 damage
every fucking time
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>>121434989
>2nd best for ardor light
Like that means anything
Problem with blocks are that they don't always activate, and DR on the first shot matters the most, so without a lot of DR then, the GK don't survive unless they have a shit ton of HP
So blocks are pretty shit until the AI is fixed
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>>121435090
Don't have points into 2 active passes in your front line.
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>>121435242
>Problem with blocks are that they don't always activate,
This should never, EVER happen.

If a gk is 5/5 block and he has the spirit there should be 110% chance to activate it when an active shoot is happening. Same thing with assists.
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>>121435259
>>121435090

Or have Ignition Catalyst on one, so one will always get an active pass off.
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>>121435403
But it does happen, GKs don't always use their actives on auto which is a lot of people dropped him for BT/Isillia
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>>121435674
People dropped Jin for Isillia because a fucking 5* striker absolutely destroys the shit out of him, meanwhile, only a legendary striker can destroy Isillia, a 5* GK.
>balance
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>>121435242
80% isn't amazingly bad if you consider the fact that you're probably in a better spot than BT/Isi if the active block does manage to block the enemy's strongest attack

Jins and Keis are still everywhere you know
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>>121434343
I'd say its ok to use stats on Eden after you've done everyone else.
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>>121436205

Jin also get destroyed by a strong Leventor, despite elemental advantage.

Shouldn't be as bad with Magnus change now I guess.
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>>121436205
Blade Leventor and Sharr all destory the shit out of isillia
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>>121436205
I was talking about Kei, but yeah that too

>>121436267
I rarely see Keis now though, i swear I've seen zibroi more
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>>121436343
>Shouldn't be as bad with Magnus change now I guess.
Why do people keep spouting this blatantly untrue meme?

Magnus does absolutely nothing to sharr. He does absolutely nothing to leventor.
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>>121436449
>destory the shit out of Isillia
>Sharr
uwotm80
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>>121436483
>actually believing magnus does nothing to sharr
I get Leventor with all that pen but Sharr has no pen
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time to weep
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>>121436483
I use Sharr, against real teams his effect is definitely noticeable.
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>>121436538

Probably an exageration, but Luka passer for Sharr is all the craze right now in response to people using Isillia against Sharr.

With Luka and/or Silla totem, Sharr can chunk away 70% of Isillia's HP and causing her to lose a lot of her DR, making the next shot fatal, even if the pen on the second shot is not as high as the first one.

Not a Leventor tier OHKO, but no worse than any other striker against Isillia.
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>>121436798
>With Luka and/or Silla totem, Sharr can chunk away 70% of Isillia's HP
Sounds like a 2hko. Im not seeing how that matters.
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>>121436892
Ye, the same thing Hiro, Beato, or Blade are going to do with the amount of pen they stack.
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>>121436721
Chitose
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>>121436798
The problem with Luka Silla Sharr is that you're focusing a lot on pen with that build, while other strikers can get that pen easily and use better assists/totems
Sharr 2hkos(3hko on the really good Isillias) even without that though so that setup is pointless
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>>121436721
>>121436961
i needed ST material anyway
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>>121436991

>The problem with Luka Silla Sharr is that you're focusing a lot on pen with that build, while other strikers can get that pen easily and use better assists/totems

I'd gladly trade you innate 30-40% pen for 50% extra damage to GK.
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>>121435403
You never use Kei, do you?
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>>121437196
That's not really his point.
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>>121436991
>while other strikers can get that pen easily and use better assists/totems
Everybody but Lev (who'd go VeronicaLuka for a 4mid that doesn't involve Vero) could go SillaLuka.
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>>121437278
They can, but they can do better while still reaching high pen
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>>121437272

He is crying about having to use pen passer for a specific match up to make up for the lack of pen, while other strikers with penetration built in have to run damage totems, because none of what they have is as good as Sharr's 80% DI.
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I'd really like to know where all the Sharr's ohkoing everybody in plat/diamond (because I know that's where most of you faggots are anyway if not gold), because I am still yet to have that issue with a 0 sup +3 kei. Especially when I sub in magnus.
I get ohko'd by almost every Beato or Hiro though despite having Nerua.
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>>121437538
I'm not crying about anything, I'm just saying that setup is pointless
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>>121437562
>in plat/diamond (because I know that's where most of you faggots are anyway if not gold)
kek
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>>121437562
Obviously not in bronze.
the bait was way too easy anon
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>>121437638
This. Antisharrfags proving their retardation again.
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>>121437638

>I'm just saying that setup is pointless

It is extremely useful against Isillia with Silla ace.
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>>121437769
Good job, you aren't in the demographic I was referring to.
Most of the clubs are filled with people in plat, then some diamonds, and a handful of people who have even placed Champs or higher.
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>>121437839
Its the same as using Elaine sharr and a good assist
Neither will let you OHKO, but both will let you 2hko
I don't think its very smart to invest into more assists for one GK when you could work on other players
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>>121437997
This again. Sharr alone isn't going to do all the damage everyone claims she does.
And if you want to sub players in for certain matchups, that's even more investment.
This goes for literally everything in this game. It's stupid fucking argument to say "x" player will carry you to champs all by itself.
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>>121437997

>Neither will let you OHKO, but both will let you 2hko

Sharr won't be hitting for over 50% of an Isillia's HP with Silla ace on on the first shot. It is the difference between dropping both Silla ace and Isillia over 50% HP DR on the first shot and having to use 3 shot to kill her.

DI isn't anywhere near as effective on high DR targets, but with the fix to Pen/DI interaction, stacking Pen now makes perfect sense, that is why high ranking players are running Luka.
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So is this threatened androids boss coming up going to be for Nute?
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>>121438150
You're over estimating what people are saying about your sharr. Get your head out of your ass.
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>>121438228
I'd say the max against good Isillias with Silla ace would be around 50-75% depending on how much you focus on damage and pen in front.
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>>121438323

Jury
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>>121437997
>Its the same as using Elaine sharr and a good assist
Are we back to the old 'DI is basically the same thing as penetration' shenanigans again?

I swear, the OP really needs to have the damage calc explanations that get mentioned a thousand times instead of plonking in the damage calculator and expecting people to figure it out from there
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>>121437769
>tfw my entire team is max superb and supertrained with 6 +120s and still not SSS
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>>121437769
>>121437562
What's the league distribution like around here anyway
Where's the autist who went through every player profile for people in /ssg/ clubs when you need him
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>>121438765
I've said it a few times in the past, max superb Gerold, Lucy and Clover/Samiel has a very large impact on TA. Not only is not everyone on that team STd to 6*, but Alice has 0 superbs, Anael has 3/5, Luka has 3/5, Kevin has 4/5 and Bell has 4/5.
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>>121438978
2 people here reached galaxy league last season, could be 3 or maybe even more this season. Then there's a few dozen in champions.
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>>121438978
Dunno, but from what I've seen in my club and my friends list filling up with people from this thread, it's mostly plat as the average. Then gold and diamond are about equal, and like I said a few champs here and there.
All the Galaxyfags are pretty much already a known factor, so that's irrelevant.
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>>121438150
>>121438228
Well fine it would be better
Reason I said its pointless is cause investing into different players for different situations would make you focus on them rather than the rest of your team which in my opinion is much more important, so like said, its more of an end game thing where you have the things needed for your team and can focus on players used for certain situations
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>>121439026
Gerold + lucy + clover = 160 stats per player
160 x 11 = 1760 TA

I've always wondered if people compare their TA with or without managers.
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What will it be? Will of Metatron pls
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>>121439760
congrats on your wom
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>>121439526

The thing is that the Luka set up only loses slight effectiveness against Jin/BT, while gaining significant advantage against Isillia.

It a trade off of overkilling Jin slightly less for more reliable chance at 2shotting the really good Isillia.

And we all know BT/Jin/Isillia is the only GK that matters in pvp.
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>>121439760
1 light + 4 ardor = a PoL
There's a formula for this one, anon.
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>>121439760
>>121439854
>>121439905

DISAPPOINTMENT
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>>121439894
>The thing is that the Luka set up only loses slight effectiveness against Jin/BT
Not him-- I don't see how Luka loses ANY effectiveness.

If you're interested in using the active at all you're probably looking at 80%DR Jins during blocks and BTs hitting 70% until her low health mark.

It's pretty understandable why Korean server top charts has nothing but Lev instead of Sharrs.
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>>121440142

>Not him-- I don't see how Luka loses ANY effectiveness.

Luka is better actually against any set BT/Jin running Silla ace.

But I think it loses out slightly against non Silla ace Jin/BT compared to the higher pass of Baltheon or even Renee that passes crit damage.
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i've noticed this happening a few times in the past, but i didn't really think much of it until now

i put points into black ivy's action speed debuff totem, yet it doesn't seem to be working on pic related's frontline

is this just a bug? or is there something i'm not aware of that's making this happen from time to time?
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>>121440394

Her sticky and flammable totem is proc on action, it is not a static, always up totem.

The translation didn't translate the on action part.
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>>121440394
It works up to 15 minutes into the game. After that, it's expired.
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It's finally time!! Grinded out 70~ dstones since yesterday. This shit was fucking awful, but damn am I glad it's done.
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>>121440460
>>121440471
ah got it, thanks. i've always wondered if that was a totem or something that procs on action.
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>>121440489
Oh god. Are you sure she's even worth it?
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>>121440489
mighty big waste of dstones there anon
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>>121440582
She is completely worth it. Way better than 0 sup kei will ever be.

>>121440584
How is the best gk in the game a waste?
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>>121440657

>450 stones on a scoutable S1 player

It's your d-stones and you can do whatever you want with them but don't be surprised if the majority of people tell you that it's a waste because frankly, it is.
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>>121440657
>How is the best gk in the game a waste?
Thought there is a spilt on "best" GK; Jin, Black T Isillia are all the best right?
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>>121440803
She's the best considering both performance and how easy it is to obtain her in comparison to BT/Jin
And guess which advantage >>121440489 is forgetting about
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>>121440489
This is the average person that plays this game. Sad as fuck.
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>>121440770
>Scoutable
Hah, that's what they tell me. 5 months of no scout and millions of gold. Fuck living that hell any longer.
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>>121440803
by far, after those 3 its a huge gap. people will insist kei is 4th but I always thought he was garbage because how weak he is starting out compared to other GKs are are at their best from the get go. Isillia is all the rage right now because of she's a BT esque gk who is light so so she doesnt take additional damage from Sharr and her healing ever so slightly helps to deal with sharr.
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>>121440946
>And guess which advantage >>121440489 is forgetting about
She can be scouted so why waste the DS?
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>>121441146
Because I'm lacking a GK with investment and it really affects my team.
The only GK I've wanted was her since patch notes that had her EE in them.
This was when everyone calling her a meme gk.
I have not found her a single time yet in that period of time.
As I said earlier in the thread, the only thing I have to spend dstones on is a unique since I already have the legends I want.
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>>121441296
which legends do you have
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>>121441296
Dont get me wrong i'm not ragging on you for your choice or anything. Just thinking about my options as well since i've been some what forced into either doing a Dark/Thunder or Light/Dark team.
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>>121441726
>dark/thunder

you might as well go mono, which is a shame cause I like the idea of it but they just have no synergy, even ardor/thunder is better off
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>>121441669
MetaBeth. I wouldn't mind bell because she's qt, but I don't need her and getting her would be more fun via draw or scout than dstones anyway.
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>>121441102
>but I always thought he was garbage because how weak he is starting out compared to other GKs are are at their best from the get go
Like it was said before, 60% active block that works against a strong shot is better than lower DR overall that's constantly there. If the block worked with 100% chance then people would still be all over Kei for PvP and Jin used even more than he is right now

>other GKs are are at their best from the get go
Not really, the painful part of using BT is that you're pretty helpless if the enemy's first attack is the active-active combo because BT needs to pass and use her active to be her 'very best'
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>>121441296
>Because I'm lacking a GK with investment and it really affects my team.
450 DS for a season 1 unit who will also have no investment, jesus fucking christ
>the only thing I have to spend dstones on is a unique since I already have the legends I want.
Do you have Bell, Baltheon, Bell, Metatron, Shu and Leventor?

Do you also seriously think a unique stone for 600DS is less value than a season 1 unit for 450DS? You do know that uniques play a huge role in PvP the further you go up, right?
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>>121441896
I have Sharr, Maxed Renee, and I don't want Shu.
Already said my thoughts on bell.
I used 3 littres, will have a 4th sunday, and I had 4 beelze, with st fodder to get her to 60.
She's already maxed almost now that I did that.

>season 1 player
I don't care, she's my favorite gk. This is waifu spirits, not mono legendary spirits like all you fags think it is.
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>>121442069
But if you're not an esports fag and only care about waifu, why did you care so much about your GK having little investment?
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>>121441296
>The only GK I've wanted was her since patch notes that had her EE in them.
Clearly not enough love if you didn't want her pre EE when she actually was worse than Robin
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>>121442156
Because it was Kei, and he's not a waifu. It's not fun losing, I didn't say it was. But winning just because you're using a bunch of legendaries isn't fun either.
The point of the game is to win with what you like.
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>>121441829
>you might as well go mono
You see i would love to but i earned Meta as my rank 30 prize, so i really want to try to have the best of both worlds if possible. I cant ignore the fact that mono--thunder is powerful by how much everyone talks about it and from what ive seen, but its not for me.
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>>121442260
I was still too new at that time to really know all the players and what they did.
She didn't have a cool EE at the time, so I barely knew she existed. Doesn't help I never scouted her either. Although, her base is pretty nice, admittedly.
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>>121442261
anon I don't think you have the right to call yourself or anyone else out for either being waifufag or esportsfag because you're in the ambiguous middle
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>Butthurts faggots because random anon didn't spend his dstones a la esport.
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>>121442551
I'm not calling anyone out. I said it's not a single playstyle game like some people here are implying.
I also said the point of the game is to play and win with what you like, in other words, do what you find to be the most fun.
If you enjoy maxing out a bunch of lengendaries and playing against other people with identical legendary teams, more power to you.
If you like playing waifu spirits and grinding the league climb, good on you.
If you like picking good waifus to avoid any males on your team yet still have good players, that's perfectly cool as well.

All of that is completely beside the point though. This is the most optimal thing for me to do in terms of my overall goals.
I could waste fuck tons more gold trying to scout her and save the dstones for another month to get a unique, or I could save the gold and make a unique and continue to play with Kei who I don't want.
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>>121441891
Why would BT use her active? HP doesn't work in pvp.

Plus she'll suck away the spirit silk needs to use HER active and I think 40% CR to the whole team > 25% personal CR
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>>121443026
If Silk didn't use the active BEFORE the enemy does his strongest shot then that's an even bigger problem anon
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>Club development event
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>>121443443
And BT using her active after the first shot will matter more than silk using it?

No, thats not how that works. And silk has a much, MUCH higher chance of moving before BT. Actives aren't going to matter anyway if the enemy has done his strongest shot so whether its silk doing it or BT doing it amounts to virtually the same thing. The only difference is silk give more and to the whole team so you might as well prioritize silk's active in the first place.
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>>121443905
>no 5 star box
ITS SHIIIIIIIITTT
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>>121443905
For a moment I was imagining a kickstarter-style fund for club PvP
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>>121443905
Not bad. I'll take it.
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