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Report and ignore it

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, November 4th:
1780 – The Rebellion of Túpac Amaru II against Spanish rule in the Viceroyalty of Peru begins.
1791 – The Western Confederacy of American Indians wins a major victory over the United States in the Battle of the Wabash.
1798 – Beginning of the Russo-Ottoman siege of Corfu.
1852 – Camillo Benso, Count of Cavour becomes the prime minister of Piedmont-Sardinia, which soon expands to become Italy.
1921 – The Saalschutz Abteilung (hall defense detachment) of the Nazi Party is renamed the Sturmabteilung (storm detachment) after a large Saalschlacht (meeting hall battle) in Munich.


>News
HOI4 - DD 31
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-31st-development-diary-30th-of-october-2015.889096/

EU4 DD 22/10
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-dev-diary-october-22nd-2015.887930/

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# Archive
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# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[EU4] - BDSM
http://pastebin.com/vYbnKvK2

>>[CK2 - 2.4.3] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Liangmod V0.1
https://www.mediafire.com/?fm7kgwo9m83yqxu

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.1.7 - 20/08/2015
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.4
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V6
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Mish Mash Map Mod
https://mega.co.nz/#F!rItzBSoL!cRR-s9OTOJbJUht4hnAw3w

>>[HoI3] YAMDaM v0.54
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md4tzqe2gg6stfv/

Old thread >>121161069
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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First for proper ENG_republic flag.
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Reminder to first for the NICKY
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>>121259362
Oh god, the Tsar was cancerous but this is downright revolutionary
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1st for help me understand party loyalty mechanics and how US population growth works
>take california
>hold it
>still at ~2mil pop in 1890s
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7th for ULSTER ES BRETESH
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Woops, posted in wrong thread.

Rate muh world.
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>>121259282
Leave flagmaking to the pros, bub.

t. AFPguy
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>>121259176
>>121259282
>>121259362
>>121259382
>>121259465
>>121259486
>>121259589
>>121259671

Lads I need help.

Playing as Mexico, managed to take back all my cores from the US and force them to release the Cherokee, New England, and Columbia.

They still have a way bigger population than mine, and their army buildup is scaring me. They currently have ~80 brigades to my 55, and I'm pretty sure they'll have 200+ to my ~130 when we both mobilize. I know they're going to try to take back their cores soon. Do the US get specific immigration events or something?
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>>121259671
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>>121259723
The way to defeat the US as Mexico is come and take it if you want it, come and take it if you think you can, come and take it if you want it, but you'll have to take it from my cold dead hands.
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>>121259697
It's actually pretty good tbf, lad. The 6 stars represent the 6 points of the people's charter.

>The People's Charter called for six reforms to make the political system more democratic:

>A vote for every man twenty-one years of age, of sound mind, and not undergoing punishment for a crime.
>The Secret Ballot – To protect the elector in the exercise of his vote.
>No Property Qualification for Members of Parliament – thus enabling the constituencies to return the man of their choice, be he rich or poor.
>Payment of Members, thus enabling an honest trades-man, working man, or other person, to serve a constituency; when taken from his business to attend to the interests of the country.
>Equal Constituencies, securing the same amount of representation for the same number of electors, instead of allowing small constituencies to swamp the votes of large ones.
>Annual Parliament Elections, thus presenting the most effectual check to bribery and intimidation, since as the constituency might be bought once in seven years (even with the ballot), no purse could buy a constituency (under a system of universal suffrage) in each ensuing twelvemonth; and since members, when elected for a year only, would not be able to defy and betray their constituents as now.
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>>121259723
Should have permanently occupied them in your last winning war. Has the Civil War fired yet? Dick them then.
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Links for VeF download? pls
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>>121260264
I'm not shitposting, I only want the link :(
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>>121259723
>someone copied my mexico question and is now spamming it
For what purpose
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>>121260506
I know, right? In my day they'd have just told you to git gud.
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>>121260506
Shitposters. The latest way they try to shit things up is by repearting somethign and spamming it
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Ck2 first time, how do I make sure the transition from my 80 y/o ruler to my 30 y/o son is as smooth as possible? Save money so I can gift everyone and raise opinion?
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>>121260635
I fugged up and had a truce with the USA so I couldnt help the CSA.
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What a great thread.
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>>121261559
If you have vassals that are children, have your heir educate them.
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>>121261717
Cringe
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One of my ck2 games freezes the 19th of march x year (not sure which), every single time I play.

Is there any way I can fix this or are all these years just lost in time like tears etc?
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>>121261717
>>121261813
I was being serious, I did my first game as Wessex in 769 Charlemagne start, 30 years later my king dies and my vassal relations are less than 20, some negative. How do I make a good transition?
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>>121261776
how much RAM you have
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Rate my Italy
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>>121262184
no
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>>121262184
perfect
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>>121250437
I thought about it. Some people are in favor of it, some people are not. It's kinda complicated, and it has its own problems. So I didn't make a decision on it yet.

>>121258858
No, the game only models ruling party support via modifiers as the game runs.
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>crusader kings 2
>have been breeding my courters for centuries
>king dies
>heir is hated
>give land to my spymaster because he has 30 in intrigue and hates my guts
>he rebels, beat my army and executes me
>leaves the game
>uninstall
I'm just bad at these. I'll just keep playing SupCom and FPS from now on. I mean, it's obvious the game doesn't want me to play.

And since DPS doesn't do grand strategy, I can't even mock him.
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>/gsg/
>have been reporting my shitposts for centuries
>HPM dies
>shitposts is hated
>give land to my shitpostmaster because he has 30 in reporting and ignores my guts
>he shitposts, beat my reports and ignores me
>reports the game
>uninstall
I'm just bad at these. I'll just keep playing SupCom and FPS from now on. I mean, it's obvious the game doesn't want me to play.

And since DPS doesn't do grand strategy, I can't even mock him.
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Reminder that HPM thinks all American slaves were master marksmen with college segrees
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>>121262553
>give land to my spymaster because he has 30 in intrigue and hates my guts

wtf why
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>>121262764
To make him happy. I had no money at all.
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Will pops convert to craftsmen in Victoria 2 even if there is no factory in their province?
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>>121263014
They're broke in their old job.
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Good to see this general is still shit.
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>>121263161
And you're not helping. Discuss /gsg/
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>>121263161
What are you talking about? The posts actually seem to be on topi for once, and there's only 45 posts
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>starts a CKII game as duke of ireland
>WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR, I have a revolt from a vassal, a faction that want to overthrown me, and a scottish lord forging claims on me
What a fucking retarded piece of shit game. How am I supposed to win if I can't even get started?
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>go to report a post
>fill out captcha
>post doesn't exist anymore
You've earned your hotpockets today janny
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>Come in thread
>about 3/4 of the posts are deleted

It's one of those days, huh
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I'm playing Austria in Victoria 2 (HPM) and I'm planning on forming Germany (and therefore on releasing all of my non-core territories). Is it worth building factories in these territories early on?
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>>121263443
The starting dukes are sort of all ass in Ireland. That will happen a lot. Generally speaking factions won't bother you much as a small country, so focus on getting kids and allies to ward off the scot
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>>121262314
After beating up Russia I often see Sweden retaking it's cores and freeing and then annexing Finland only to abandon claims. Shouldn't there be some check so they can't do it when they own Finnish cores? Further, Åland shouldn't be affected by the abandon decision at all and should instead be based around https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85land_crisis where you can press or give up claims.
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>>121263443
Oh you seem have forgotten to git gud
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>>121263585
But I've been told that Ireland was beginner's island.
And how can I get rid of factions? Unlike intrigues, I can't just ask the guy to stop doing whatever he does.
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>>121263539
No desu
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>>121263686
Faction members can be dissuaded by using your Spymaster on the, iirc, Scheme mission in thier capital. A good spymaster will keep everyone out, though once you get big enough it's best to focus on superdukes and other such big vassals.

Ireland IS tutorial island, in the sense that it's typically hard to get completely facerolled. Most people don't bother Ireland much, so it's a good place to get grips on the mechanics of the game and make your first kingdom. You'll get the hand of it.
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>>121263539
>giving up clay
As Grossest Grossgermaniums just ignore infamy.
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>>121263906
Ha, okay. Thanks.

I tried Scotland once because "scottish vassals are very loyal". Got a revolt against me in my first year.
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>>121263686
>And how can I get rid of factions?

make faction members/leaders like you more. Give them shit like honorary titles or just send your chancellor to suck their dicks
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>>121263814
Why is that the case?
>>121263973
I'm pretty sure that HPM makes it impossible for me to form Germany without releasing my non-cored territories.
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>>121262314
Decided to start a Vietnam game but I really don't know what flavor they have at all, including the basegame events, could you give me a hand HPM? Do I get to diplo annex Cambodia? Does Luana Probang just sit there? What flavor do I get once I civilize? Are there any scripted wars?
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Hotpockets are on fire today
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>>121264015
>send your chancellor to suck their dicks
You mean trying to trigger that event that has a 10% chance of appearing per year?

I really prefer EU4's system.
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>>121263976
I've found you'll usually get a revolt early game, and generally one every new ruler you go on as the New Ruler opinion malus pisses everyone off.

Fighting a less than fun war can also cause vassal revolts, especially with factions. A good part of their decision making is based on comparisons of their cumulative levy vs yours. If your whole levy is destroyed, expect trouble.
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>>121262314
Hey HPM, here's a handy set of maps of Australia during the victorian period http://www.qhatlas.com.au/node/853/zoomify
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYsfl1YSQJI

Reminder that Byzantium will be restored one day
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>>121264203
its not like you need him elsewhere, fabricating claims takes even longer and sowing dissent is useless
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>>121264213
Urgh. So I'm going to spend a lot of my early game time waiting for money to buy mercenaries.
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>>121264060
When having Austria in your sphere when you form Germany there's an event for them where they can join you with their entire empire for 40 infamy. The chance of them taking that option is very low though. There's an event for you as Austria or KuK that triggers if you are in a position to form Germany and still have non-cores. I haven't done it but I imagine it would be similar to the first.
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>>121264261
Indeed, Thermopylae can be repeated with modern weaponry.
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>>121264060
Why would you? Building no factories would leave thousands of educated, unemployed craftsmen and clerks on Hungary and other uncored provinces. This will force them to migrate to Austria propper, which means you'll have a far more industrialized Österreich, capable of competing industrially with the rest of the German states. Overall, by doing this, Austria will be more densely populated and educated.
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>>121264351
Unfortunately a lot of it can boil down to this. It depends a lot on how strong your neighbours are. Make sure to pay attention to when they're fighting wars, and if they can win them.
If you haven't seen it already, the character screen will show you their levy, and a breakdown of how much is theirs and how much is their vassals. Picking on new rulers can be useful since they get less troops, especially if they have low martial. Lots of things to consider.
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>>121264114
>Vietnam
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Why can he only raise a max of 71 when it says 356 next to it? I understand why I can have 12 of the 71 but why is it not of 356 instead?
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>>121263590
You are right, I will add a check so they don't abandon it if they own any finnish cores.
About the Aland islands, I will do something about it when I put the crisis in.

>>121264114
I didn't touch them at all. The French will try to war you and there's a dispute over Cambodia, but I can't help you much, sorry.

>>121264237
Thanks!
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>>121264384
Thanks. I'm looking at the mod files now and that appears to be the case. Are you sure it's worth holding onto all those provinces rather than releasing them? Not only do they tend to have low literacy, but releasing them would give me a combined -26 infamy.
>>121264461
I figured as much, thanks.
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Whats the best way to make a secondary power into a fascist great power?:
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>>121259382
fuck that autism
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Howdy, Germanic servants! Check it out, I'm made of gold!

t. Charlemagne
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>>121266331
[servile instinct intensifies]
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>>121265093
anyone help?
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>>121266862
Because he holds part of the troops to himself, he's not obliged to provide everything
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People need to recognize one thing about HoI3's Black Ice mod.

It's not completely shit. It's mostly shit, but there are some very interesting unique mechanics that should be Incorporated a mod like HPP.

1. The unique divisional build system that allows for more varied, interesting divisional units that more closely resemble their real life counterparts.

2. A more comprehensive tech and unit makeup, albeit with a need for some greater trade offs built in that force players to make real choices.

These things above should be incorporated into HPP, as well as updated versions of Francesco's models.

Then all we would need is additional strategic military, economic, and political decisions tailored to major and semi-major nations with potential for branching, dynamic paths. Keep in mind by this I do not mean utter sandbox, but paths that have been considered and discussed and formulated through well-researched histories and analyses.

With this, we would have the ultimate hearts of iron game.
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>>121266331
It is amazing indeed. Gold is a very valuable commodity. I have no choice but to submit to my servile instincts and become your vassal. I didn't have any plans for independence or world relevance, by the way
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>>121265553
Hey HPM friend, something's fucked up with Shitaly's unification. AS France, I let Sard. P form Shitaly after getting Nice and the other 2 french provinces from them. When they formed italy, I took the option giving me a free people CB on them to free Tuscany and fuck them over for a while. However, the cores disappeared a day later, making the CB and brief one day war useless. Is that intended?
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>>121266331
>>121267143
I never understand this meme
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People need to recognize one thing about HoI3's Black Ice mod.

It's not completely shit. It's mostly shit, but there are some very interesting unique mechanics that should be Incorporated a mod like HPP.

1. The unique divisional build system that allows for more varied, interesting divisional units that more closely resemble their real life counterparts.

2. A more comprehensive tech and unit makeup, albeit with a need for some greater trade offs built in that force players to make real choices.

These things above should be incorporated into HPP, as well as updated versions of Francesco's models.

Then all we would need is additional strategic military, economic, and political decisions tailored to major and semi-major nations with potential for branching, dynamic paths. Keep in mind by this I do not mean utter sandbox, but paths that have been considered and discussed and formulated through well-researched histories and analyses.

With this, we would have the ultimate hearts of iron game.
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>>121264261
what are you? fucking autistic?
1) turkey is fucking stronger than greece
2) there is no kurdish genocide unless you believe that pkk communist propaganda, there has been 2 kurdish PMs in turkish history
3) "turkey is not recognized as islamic religion by arabs" even though it was the last legitimate caliphate for the last decades
4) greece never destroyed the ottoman empire (uk, russia and france did) and turkey won much more wars against greece than is mentioned in that autistic video (greco-turkish war of 1897, turkish war of independence (even though the video says it was a "turkish defeat"))
5) the video says turkey always attacks at greece's weakest moments even though in 1919 greece invaded turkey (who was getting divided by colonial powers, had a terrible food crisis, was fighting armenia, france and various revolts at the same time) and still got their ass handed to them
6) greece would never push that far into turkey! have any of you autists ever been to turkey? an army like greece's pushing into central anatolia will just be like anyone attacking siberia in the fucking winter
7) "the turkish police wear the double-head eangle". the idiots didn't even spell eagle right but the double-headed eagle the turkish police use is the seljuk eagle.
i can't stand watching the rest of that autistic video without fucking cringing but you autists need to realize something. BYZANTINES WILL NEVER RETURN! greece is running by fucking communists and can't even pay fucking debts. so get leave your autistic dreams to your games and stop crying over a shitty empire that has been dead for ages now
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>>121267463
t.turkish
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>>121266331
>>121267143
Can someone link the original video?
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I believe the janitor has arrived
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>>121267431
>>121268047
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY
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>>121267463
go back to mongolia fucking barbarian
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So this is what /gsg/ has become. I guess its fitting.

As goes Paradox, so goes /gsg/. Degradation and a general dumbing down of the user base.
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>>121267168
Did they integrate Tuscany, is that it?
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>>121268640
thanks lad
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>>121269194
It was a great power Sar. who held Lombardy and fired the decision that gave them that one northern state from the Pope, Tuscany, and that one state divided by 2 Austrian spherelings, Emily I think. They then took a few years to sphere Two Sicilies and the Pope. The entire time Tuscany's cores remained. I think it was an event fired from Itaty uniting that deleted the cores, but it fired immediately, not letting an outside power use the free people CB they get.
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>>121269552
>he thinks indo-europeans originated in India
t*rkish education folks
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Why are the best games plagued with the worst generals?
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>>121270303
>best games
>parakeks shit
Hello reddit!
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>>121270425
Thanks for proving my point, shitposter.
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Is it worth taking a 40 infamy hit to keep all of Austria's non-German territories when I form Grossdeutschland or should I just release them all for -26 infamy?
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>>121270303
Even with all the shitposting, /gsg/ is still one of the best generals here.

At least we don't have tripfags
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>>121270506
No problem, now go kill yourself.
>>121270515
Follow your heart, lad. GERMANIUM MUST BE GROß!
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>>121270259
i was actually told by a hindu nationalist from india that all indo-europeans come from india
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>>121259960
It's a shit flag.

Chartism was a pretty neat movement for its time though. Why was it literally never mentioned at school, I wonder?
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>>121269194
I've said before and I'll say again Italy needs a malus to combat.

If you think this is unfair to them consider the fact you give Japan a bonus to organisation, I believe it's called "order of the rising sun" or something, well Italy should get a "poor leadership" malus, it simply makes no sense that Italy, a nation that has failed militarily through every single war they've ever been in should be on par with the rest of Europe.
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>>121259282
Its a nice flag but I don't see whats English about it. It looks like the flag of a Caribbean/South American shithole run by shekel merchants.
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>>121270812
Explain why it's a shit flag.

These are the specifications for a good flag:

>Keep It Simple. The flag should be so simple that a child can draw it from memory…
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>Use Meaningful Symbolism. The flag’s images, colors, or patterns should relate to what it symbolizes…
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>Use 2 or 3 Basic Colors. Limit the number of colors on the flag to three which contrast well and come from the standard color set…
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>No Lettering or Seals. Never use writing on any kind or an organization’s seal…
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>Be Distinctive or Be Related. Avoid duplicating other flags, but use similarities to show connections…
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Please explain to me what is bad about this flag. It's not meant to be a union jack, it's meant to be a new flag of a new government that has nothing to do with the old one.
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>>121271216
It's not meant to look English, if it looked English it would look like the old order's flag, that is exactly what chartists wanted an end to. The six points represent the six points of the charter, the colours were used by the chartists, it's a good flag.
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My first game, should this be happening?
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>>121271483
>charlememe start date
Yes
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>>121271481
Calm down, I said it was good. I just didn't know the meaning
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>>121271530
I wanted to unite England for a first game as Wessex, but I never finish my games on V2 anyway so this won't be any different. I don't care if endgame looks awful because I'll never reach it.
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>>121270613
Memes aside, do you really think its worth 40 infamy to keep those territories (66 when you consider the infamy I'd lose by releasing them) , especially when they have such low literacy?
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>>121271339
The red and green triangles look super weird. Tricolours were the hot shit in the 19th century, not triangles
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>>121271578
Everybody is calling my flag shit, I worked hard on that flag. :(
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>>121271483
Yes, but this speaks to a critical flaw, the ability of hordes/muslims, etc to 'invade' kingdoms that don't exist.
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>>121271681
Tricolours were also plain as shit, plus I needed a big open space to put the ring of stars.
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HPM could you reshape poland so the borders of 1943 are possible?
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>>121269656
Oh, so you were supposed to get the free people CB because they didn't return Nice, but you didn't because of the unification.

>>121271048
And the answer from last time didn't change.
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>>121271483
what map mod are you using?
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>>121271716
Its better than the last republic one you had
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>>121271716
Its quite good and now I know the meaning it suites. Are you making a mod for it?
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>Women in History
>The DLC is named as 'Politically Correct Edition' in Steam's database[2], and includes some changes in event text like replacing He is... with They are... to reflect gramatically presence of women characters in the game.
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>>121271951
Novus Graphicus
>>121271738
Also orthodoxy immediately turned hereitic in 770 and was replaced by Iconoclast. Is this normal?
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>>121271887
By the way, I thought of a way you can make a two party system, at least in the US.

Make all the states that historically voted republican (the north) start with a shit tonne of loyalty to them and make all the states that historically voted democrat (the south) start with a shit tonne of loyalty to them.

Also, the South should get events that massively increase reactionary loyalty (Southern Democrats) from 1850 onwards.
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>>121271483
just restart lad, you will not last 7 centuries before you get bored and delete the game

and play a later start
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>>121272015
It's not ahistorical, I'm going to show it to AFPG and hope he uses it, but I haven't seen him in days.
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>>121272448
Why is there such a stigma around charlemagne start? Is it just because it ends up looking really ahistorical? I mean the game spans 800 years so it's not like it could stay historical past the 200th
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>>121272320
That would work, albeit only for a time as it would wear off in time. But I have no problem with the states starting with the ideological loyalty they had historically..
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>>121272170

>representing women
>not representing trans, genderfluid, pan, otherkin person

Paradox is racist and sexist
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>>121272628
Not only is it really ahistorical, it's mostly implausible with giant blobs of reformed Germanics and German culture stretching from Brittany to the Volga or Norsemen in Central Asia or the Byzantine Emperor converting to Tengrism.
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>>121272630
Will you do that then?
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>>121272819
what makes 1066 any better?
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>>121271983
The Japanese christmas one?
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>>121271646
Dude, they are like colonies you have a continuous border with and can build factories in, its totally worth it. And since as Germany you can justify blobbing, go for it.
Sorry for the late reply, I got timed out.
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>>121271873
Top fucking kek lad.
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>>121271873
Not really worried about WW2 borders, so there isn't a good chance I will do it.

>>121272848
Yesm as soon as I find a good map of the votes.
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>>121272278
Yes. Unless you're MegaCampaignLad, Charlememe start is a bad time.
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What a disgusting scramble
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>>121273094
1066 has mild to moderate memeing, charlie is just full blown memeing.
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>>121273512
Belgium doesn't get the Congo often enough, why is this and what do you intend to do about it?
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>tfw CSA won
Feels good man
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>>121273920
>that map mod

feels cancerous lad

How did you even do that?
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>>121273094
pagan AI can't ruin as much
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groß austriums
groß germaniums
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>>121274216
>venice not australian

shit map to be honest
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>>121273512
HPM plz give Bukhara and Kokand names for when they communist or democracy because even if they're a republic or proletarian dictatorship they still have names like "Kokand Khanate" and "Bukhara Emirate"
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>>121274004
I just changed the water and fixed some ghost lakes in MMMM
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>>121273876
I want to redo the Congo Conference, not only Belgium would get it though.

>>121274592
I will give them neutral names.
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>>121274857
1. What are you currently doing?

2. What is the last thing you've done?

3. When will the next version come out?

4. WESTRALIA WEN CUNT
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>>121273512
The problem with this is that it'll cause the Civil War political structure to look vastly different than it should unless additional events are added in.

I agree it should be done, but you'll need to do an event for the '40s which knocks up jingoism (either that or add a 5% increase to jingoism for Yankees and a 10% increase to jingoism for Dixies when the M-A war starts) and probably an event for the early '50s which starts turning most Dixie and Texan POPs strongly reactionary, as the other anon suggested. The South was so reactionary before the Union collapsed it was ludicrous, and already that's not well-represented.

t. CSAnon
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>>121275169
>>121273512
Is it not possible to give them party loyalty through sporadic events?
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>>121274857
Who else are you thinking besides Belgium?
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>>121274216
>that France
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>>121272320
>>121275169
Literally asking for "Wickedness must be stamped out"
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>>121275426
I don't think they should have party loyalty after the start. The loyalty should fade gradually and should shift to voting based on ideology, as is usual for the Vicky engine. If it's kept based on loyalty throughout the entire game, it's much less subject to any partial divergence.

The only thing that would really need to be done to keep America in a state of flux and uncertainty--which is what the political situation was from '44-'60--is the general increase in expansionist (especially Southern expansionist) tendencies and the push to keep slavery. National jingoism bonuses in the '40s and huge reactionary boosts to Dixie pops in the '50s can simulate that fine, and then after that POP ideologies can be left to circumstance again.
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>>121275619
I don't think a single event in the '40s and a single event in the '50s related to ideology is quite equivalent to the current event spam that is Wickedness, anon.
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>>121260195
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>>121275775
>If it's kept based on loyalty throughout the entire game, it's much less subject to any partial divergence.

You just described the US political system since 1776.
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>>121276182
how about buy the game you fucking CRIMINAL SCUM
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>>121276386
>>hurrdurr americans
>im this edgy
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>>121260195
>>121276182
Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>121274216
>German Britain
>Austrian Ireland
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I've had this chucklefuck at 137% plot power since 780, in that time there were 2 failed kill attempts. I swear I should find him dead within a few weeks of getting 100%?
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>>121276603
>someone else says 'chucklefuck'
YES
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Do I need all dlcs to use HIP?
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>>121276895
Yes.

Make sure you've bought them all as well, pirated versions don't work.
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I regret ever making this on that fateful day
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>>121276895
Of course you silly goyim.
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>>121277039
why are you lying to me senpai
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/his/ tried to do a ck2 mp yesterday.
It failed miserably because of paradox' net code.
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>>121276489
I'm not meming lad, infact you're denying the US is a two party system, you're the meme.
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>>121274974
Going through notes of recent and old reports/suggestions,

Last thing I did was what >>121274592 said.

No ETA, sorry. I will try to push itsoon since there's quite a bit of fixes.

>>121275426
No, it's impossible. I can only make them support the ruling party, that's it.

>>121275515
European nation with less than 5 infamy, non colonial and with ports and/or secondary power would be able to call for the conference. Not some fixed nations,just a requirement to argue that the Congo should be yours.

>>121275169
It's just party loyalty. Wouldn't affect ideology much.
About the issues, I know it's something complicated. The way paradox does it to avoid a fixed date for the ACW is the event spam. It also regulates and distributes moralism. It works, but it's spammy. The only thing keeping me from scrapping the current system and doing a new one is that I didn't come up with a satisfactory solution for all these problems that don't involve event spam or a bomb of moralism/jingoism in one event.
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>Genociding a millions of Chinese sub-humans in my treaty ports.

Feels good man.
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So do I make my own Kingdom or wait until I can create the Kingdom of England?
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>>121278546
Show your GroBFrancium, lad.
>6th place military
>100/154
Why?
>0/6
WHY?
>>
Anyone of you here play still this game?I was always trying to blend in but always ended up deleting it and giving it reinstal after some time.
I was pretty fine with Europe Universals,Hearts of Iron even CK2.But many things in Vic2 i dont get it.
>How to prevent frucking rebels
>What about factories/where to build them and maintain + useful notes overal
>What are good things do with province population and such and micro menagment
>Good army stacks and overal tips welcomed
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>>121278854
Create the kingdom of Southern Britain.

Fuck the police
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>tfw discovered the source of Nile
Epic...
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>>121278870
I haven't had the need to build military lately, and most of those are non-french scum, waiting to be genocided pretty soon. As for the NF's, I'm kind of lost as to what to use them for, as I'm already at 4% int. in every state. Waiting till fascism arrives I guess. And yes, Rhineland's my puppet.

Rest of Africa next.
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>>121260195
>>121276182
You owe me for this one cocksucker.
https://mega.nz/#!rYpTmC6K!6P8JLILwWQtzAZCuEcZkAxhVmS3Dfnz9TZFz-Uizbxo
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>>121278207
>The only thing keeping me from scrapping the current system and doing a new one is that I didn't come up with a satisfactory solution for all these problems that don't involve event spam or a bomb of moralism/jingoism in one event.
I don't think there is another way, unless you just set it by date and let the ideology be damned. Hell, even the ideology-bombs have their own issues, as their firing, at least, will be set by date. And since it'd all come in one clump, it'd probably interfere with a "natural" Civil War anyway.

I don't know. It's a difficult question. The best way to do it, especially considering the eventual 1815 start, would likely be a combination of situation AND ideology. The Civil War started for a variety of reasons, but the most important was the perception that the South was being "hemmed in," both territorially and politically. Whether the Mexican-American war happened, and whether those states were made slave states, would have a major bearing on tensions in the South. So too would the outcome of the Missouri Compromise, the passage of the Kansas-Nebraska act. and the victory or failure of the Republican party.

Perhaps a moderate solution could be made, and ideological changes could be bound alongside major policy decisions/events in America. Passage of the Missouri Compromise would reduce militancy in the South but increase Dixie conservative/reactionary support simultaneously. Annexation of the Mexican territories would reduce militancy and make reactionary Dixies more conservative (reduce their extremism). Hmm. I don't know how ideal that would be, either, but it would reduce the total number of events and reduce ideological changes which could precipitate the war to actual historical events which affected the tenor of the times.
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>>121279491
I may have had a hand at some colonial exchanges,but Portugal going south of Angola was all their doing.
>>121279287
Here's mine
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>>121278207
Oh, ever since the texas cores got reworked, you can get a weird thing where if CSA revolts before Texas loses it's grosstexas cores, CSA will get all the states going up to Wyoming where texas has a core, when really it should only get the small bits of provinces where texas has cores and the rest of the state should stay with the US. I hope that makes sense
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>>121279491
>GroBBavariums that isn't just SGF
how?
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>>121279062
>>How to prevent frucking rebels
You don't, any gov't you have people will be rebelling, jacobites, gommies, fascists. That's just Parakeks and their shitty game design.
>>What about factories/where to build them and maintain + useful notes overal
Look up the industry guide in the archive in the OP. Basically build shit that there's not enough in the world (mostly liquor) and subsidize them all the time if you can. Although laissez faire can be pretty good for big, stable economies like the USA.
>>What are good things do with province population and such and micro menagment
Leave it alone. Use you National Focus to encourage intellectuals/clergy to get more research points and literacy growth. Then just encourage craftsman or something.
>>Good army stacks and overal tips welcomed
4GUA (can be INF) 4ART 1ENG 1HUS as a general, quick response stack. 4ART 1ENG 1HUS to be filled with mobilized INF.
>>121279491
Pretty shit, my France was much better.
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Lebenstraum acquired
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CRASHING THIS SULTANATE WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>121279752
That's a sexy French Africa
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>>121270812

I studied the chartists in school desu
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>>121279752
I'm going for the tech for the Siam border treaty the moment i can.
>>121279897
Since I have that puppet Rhineland, the NGF couldn't form. So German Patriots have been rising up for years now. Baden and the other S. German state had been under rebel occupation for nearly a decade, so I sphered all three, gave the land to Bavaria, then let Austria-Hungary and Prussia fight over it. I reasoned that since there was no German federation to become a part of, the rebels might have wanted a southern one with Bavaria.
>>121280013
I...I just wanted a comfy France game with Frenchmen replacing natives around the world
>>121280246
Thank you. I'm loving Portugal's gains. maximum comfy desu.
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>>121280073
Well you got the only lebensraum that matters
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>>121280489
Here's the rest of French Pacific. Not shown was the few Caribbean islands, and St. Pierre
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>>121280571
>most considerate flies
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>>121279575
I'm veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery grateful, lad. Many thanks :D
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>>121280489
>comfy France
Yeah, and managing troops from all those colonies is not comfy. My comfy France owned almost the everything north of the equator in Africa.
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>>121280817
All of my armies are French, born and raised, with those 2 Special Forces groups being the most experienced, due to swarms of china men
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>>121280571
>towel
>all that print
useless
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>>121280729
>That image
too soon
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>>121281129
>not using millions of niggers for The Final Big Push in a great war
>not bathing Europe in the negro blood as Napoopan 3.0
baka desu senpai
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>>121281468
It also hurts me but it's just too good of a reaction image.
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>>121281129
>tfw non Rhine frontier
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I did it /gsg/...
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>>121281919
I refuse to believe that's authentic.
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>>121281919
??
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My Byzantine in EU 4.Not bad for second play.
Too much time passed and i fucked myself over ideas but i keep going.
>It has wierd shape as fuck
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>>121282064
1938 copy senpai
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>>121282553
Post a timestamp that says "t. Mosley Meme" or else you're talking shit
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>>121282293
What possessed you to spawn this monstrosity?
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>>121282553
One question: How?
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>>121282293
>Breton Sibir
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>>121282293

Jesus Christ son, what's wrong with you?
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>>121282668
Your wish is my command

>>121282736
Just gotta know where to look
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>>121282293
>Byzantine Arkhangelsk but no Jerusalem or Alexandria

for what purpose
>>
>>121283397

M O S L E Y
O
S
L
E
Y
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>>121283397
>timestamped for 7 months ago
>Made-up "General Mountain Time" time zone (it's just "MT' dumbass.)
Yeah, whatever. Fuck off, shitposter.
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>>121283397
Shit handwriting. What are you, 12?
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>>121283397
wew
/gsg/ does it again
>>
>>121283643
>be american
>get shot
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>>121283646
it was a shit pen and surface, honest
>>
Complete the best CK2 modpack, all compatible:

CK2+
Anime Face Pack
My Personal Castle
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>>121282293
>all that useless northern land
>No Levant
>barely any of southern Italy

kill yourself
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>>121283397
Classic /gsg/
>>
>>121283657
>>121283971
stop
>>121283643
haha you got him bro!!!!1!
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>>121283471
That is on list to do right after i annex Novogord + Cummans.
There are pretty much bunch of wierd alliances all around so i gotta be carefull.
Georgia is my march and Carianthia,Mughals and Najd allies which will help to completely rape these Selejuk for once.They go on my nerves since start.Also Poland is trouble.They got few of 80-120 unit stacks.Blob nation worse then fucking France.
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>>121267083
>1. The unique divisional build system that allows for more varied, interesting divisional units that more closely resemble their real life counterparts.

No this is retarded, because the Combined Arms system forces you to make stupid shit just because it gives combined arms. e.g. putting fucking marines in every division, even ones that aren't going to be doing anything near rivers or water, just because it boosts the stats of EVERYTHING in the division by 15% or something.

>2. A more comprehensive tech and unit makeup, albeit with a need for some greater trade offs built in that force players to make real choices.
Except that BlackICE gives you huge amounts of leadership to research basically everything important anyway. All it does is fuck over minors with limited leadership even more than vanilla did.
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>>121283892
It wasnt my goal to get Italy this game.Wanted to expand on east and colonies.Will take Selejuk for sake of trade but my goal are Liao and neighbours.Europe and rest will be PU and wrecked later.Bunch of small contries so...Thats why i keep France as ally anyway.
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>>121282553
>>121281919
Anyone care to tell me what the fuck this is and why I should be excited for it?
>>
>>121283890
>CK2+
Literally shit
The best mod pack is objectively HIP + Torturepack/Torturemod + VIET Music
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>>121284476
>I lack reading comprehension.
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>>121284780
what about Anime Face Mod
>>
>>121284943
good if you're a faggot weeb
>>
I recently came back to CK2 after not playing it for years but I can't help but notice that the game runs absolutely awful now. It always slowed down after playing for a few hundred years but that stuttery slowdown is already here at the start of the game now. I dread to think what it would be like later.

Are there any settings or mods that help with this or is my only option getting a better computer?
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>>121283892
post more Кoт with Cмeтaнa
have this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHakm25yMZo
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>>121285378
ok lad
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>>121284943
I don't like it but also don't hate it. But by far the most diverse, realistic and immersive portrait mod is CPR+. Even the Tocharians get their own portraits and skin color.
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>>121284707
Lads?
>>
>tfw sort of look like mosley
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>>121285529
something more uncommon please
i have many from vk
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>>121285852
You should LARP as him and see what people say.

They'd probably think you were a spree killer tbvqh
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>>121284707
>>121285735
Look at the lower left corner in >>121281919
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>>121285919
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>>121285952
So it's signed by him? Yeah, that's a really big achievement. Except it fucking isn't, his entire life was whining about being fuhrer, he had lots of time to scribble.
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>>121285945
I might for halloween next year t b h
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>>121267463
t. kebab
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>>121286118
Why are you even here if you hate memes?
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>>121285952
W E W
E
W
>>121286118
Who the fuck cares, it's an autograph of one of our main (dead, may I mention) memes
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>>121286039
thank you
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WAKE ME UP
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>>121282553
wew lad
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>>121279839
Alright, I will take a look.

>>121279592
Maybe I will use major events like Brown's last raid to set up a thermometer. As time passes and the situation evolves, they fire until after the last one fires they are on the tipping point, only waiting for the war to break out.

In any case, here are some games I already have:

System Shock 2
NALS7*1A5CFBB3341L

Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena
HPMA781A*CFBB334GK

Both asterisks are a single number. Both games are on GOG.
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>>121286494
>Not wanting a 5 loli harem
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Found a qt3.14, should I seduce her?
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>>121287270
Is that even a question?
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>>121286875
I DON'T HAVE AN HEIR
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>>121287332
I take that as a yes. She looks like taytay <3
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>>121287559
back to /brit/
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>>121286350
Call me when we get willy's autograph.
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>>121287402
Inseminate them all
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>>121258104
Hey no problem. If it doesn't work or you have further questions ask away.
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>>121287606
This place is brit/pol/.
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>>121287817
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>>121286847
Also, you should make Britain start with Whig/Conservative loyalty according to this map.
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>>121287817
Hm, it's this easy. I want to make bastards with her and hand them conquered demesnes.
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Is there no way you can stop shit like this showing up in the wrong millennium?

Is it not possible to set a date as a per-requisite before it can be formed?
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>>121286847
>Maybe I will use major events like Brown's last raid to set up a thermometer. As time passes and the situation evolves, they fire until after the last one fires they are on the tipping point, only waiting for the war to break out.
That's not a bad idea in principle, but it doesn't really account for ideology. Arguably--and this is about the biggest "arguably" you can have in Civil War historiography, mind--the South never would have rebelled had they felt that their right to holding slaves was not being compromised. In a hypothetical situation where an overtly anti-slavery party (so liberal, in Vicky terms) never won high office in the American republic, there's a chance that the South never would have rebelled. Of course a permanent conservative/reactionary deadlock on the government would never happen in Vicky, but I doubt, for example, that the South would have rebelled in 1860 if their candidate won the presidency.

Basically what I'm getting at is that ideology, by necessity, has to play a part in the Civil War. If pro-South forces dominate the government, they're not likely to rebel until those forces are out of office. And pro-South forces held the government for much of the '40s and '50s, which is a great deal of the reason why ever-rising tension even from the '30s didn't boil over until 1860. The Civil War could have happened a lot sooner if anti-slavery sentiment and liberal control of the government had happened earlier, but it didn't. And so HPM should, ideally, set up the conditions that make America less likely to have a Civil War prior to the late '50s/early '60s, but also allow for it to occur earlier, perhaps even decades earlier, under the proper conditions.

tl;dr there has to be SOME level of ideological manipulation in America if you want it to work "historically."
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>>121287921
I.. is that national Action?
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what's a good country for first time commie games? i'm getting sick of lazy fair
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>>121287559
>>121288179

Why the fuck are you seducing someone with only one county claim, and no genetic traits? Whats the point in that?

"Looks vaguely like Tay-tay" is not a valid reason.

Go find yourself some genius Karling girl with vast tracts of land to put your dick in.
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>>121288352
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7TJgPGgfZs
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>>121288352
>that file name

fuckin' a
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>>121288459
It's the first time I seduced someone in this game. After I kill her husband and I marry her I should be heir to the welsh kingdom. Also I want to be cosy, why would an anglo-saxon king want land in the middle of west francia?
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>>121288713
>why would an anglo-saxon king want land in the middle of west francia
/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General
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>>121286847
>>121288154
So by province it should look like this.
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>>121289004
I don't get it? There was only French land ruled by england after 1066, and William was not anglo-saxon. Anglo-saxons had nothing to do with France.
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>>121289219
Dark blue would be Reactionaries/Tories then?
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>>121288713
I was more thinking of the benefits of being able to always call on the Karlings for help in wars, and getting some decent traits out of her hole.
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>>121289536
No, I just coloured each province slightly differently so HPM could see which provinces were which. The blue is all conservative and the yellow/orange/brown is all whig.
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>>121289624
I already have an alliance with them (2 actually)

I regret it though, I think I just answered the 9th call-to-arms against a frankish rebellion. Nobody likes the king in his realm.
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>>121288154
>>121289219
Without a legend, it's kinda hard to tell where party loyalty goes.

Do keep in mind I can only set vote by ideology, not by party.

>>121288238
Oh, I agree with you. If you try to push the issue, the war might happen faster. Which is why a set date also doesn't work well. I thought about integrating ideology the same way I modified some decisions (so a liberal government can't go after the Ostend Manifesto, for example). The problem is integrating ideology in a satisfactory and non spammy way.

In any case, what triggered the civil war anyway? What was the last drop that made people think the only way to solve was secceeding?
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FINLAND UNIDET :DDD
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>>121290225
Yeah, just have the liberal loyalty sky high in whig provinces and the conservative loyalty sky high in conservative provinces, level it out and you've got a perfect two party system.
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>>121290250
>Charlememe start

You dun goofed anon
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>>121290250
Ebin :-DDD
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>>121290372
Alright. What's up with the non regular intervals in UK elections anyway? At least in the beginning of the 19th century.
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>>121288204
germany's just the alt name for non Karling east francia.

not super ahistorical.
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Aside from being a lunatic with gonorrhoea, what happened to this guys face?
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>>121290225
What triggered the civil WAR itself was the battle of fort sumter, which was like five months after Lincoln won and confederate states declared independence. I think you should really model this brief period of peace as an opportunity for the CSA to regroup its forces
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>>121290494
I don't know much about the period and it's so clouded by time anyway, I think it's fun to imagine the feel of things and stuff without really knowing too much about what's going on or what should be going on.
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>>121290648
In the UK the ruling party can call an election whenever they like, (Or atleast they could, there was a change in 2010 and I think it's regulated to once every 5 years now) so if they were about to do something unpopular they could hold an election whilst they were still popular or recently received a spike in popularity and win.

IIRC, Thatcher called an election after the Falklands war when her popularity was through the roof as the defender of the empire, pic related
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_1983
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>>121290225
>In any case, what triggered the civil war anyway? What was the last drop that made people think the only way to solve was secceeding?
The professor I had for the course argued that Brown's raid was essentially the point of no return. Almost the entire South was shocked to discover that the North actually approved in large measure of what Brown had done; a few even called for more violence until the slavery issue was settled. At first the South thought this was just isolated insanity, but soon newspapers across the North started to print it, and Southerners started to call for violence against abolitionists gradually on their own. Effectively, the two sides of the debate not only polarized, but their suggested responses radicalized following the raid.

Now, whether I believe that or not is a different story. There was a lot of saber-rattling around the time of the Missouri Compromise, the Tariff of Abominations, etc. I haven't done enough research to know personally whether the general mood really did turn that sharply against unity.

Whatever the case about the inevitability of disunion, the actual event which secured it was absolutely the election of Lincoln. My professor would have argued that Lincoln coming to the white house was merely an effective scapegoat for the South to point at, but even if that's true Lincoln also escalated tensions on his own. He was not for abolishing slavery, but he was for completely isolating it (no new US territory would become slaveholding in any capacity), and so he played into that Southern fear of political and territorial isolation. In my opinion, it was Lincoln that was the final straw. Disunion might well have been inevitably after Brown's raid, but it might have been a decade longer in coming if not for a Republican's election.
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>play a bunch of diplomatic HRE games in a row
>decide to intentionally not diplo-blob and try to be unpopular and isolationist
I just can't stop myself.
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>>121290847

he discovered he's a nigger
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>>121290648
A lot of our system is based on convention, for example officially the office of Prime Minister doesn't need exist, it was a convention which developed over time

Non regular intervals is because the British prime minister has held the power to call a general election at any time in their 5 year term, so often a government would hold an early election if their popularity was dropping to keep them in power for another session, only last year we introduced fixed term 6 years parliament, with only a majority parliamentary vote being able to dissolve parliament now
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>>121290847

he discovered he's married to a nigger
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I bring memes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXmMT4sETu8
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Is there any way I can fix this? Managed to pick up the sister of the Basilieus when he was feeling particularly kind because I was helping him bash the Muslims.

But I kinda fucked it up a bit by having too many kids with some other "nun-concubines" that has strong and genius that I'd picked up along the way, dragged to my court, told to take the vows then seduced. Keeps them from straying, and keeps the travel time down, you know?

But yeah, the Greek missus took offense at my new nigglet production line. Is there any way to get back in her good books?
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>>121291608
NOT AGAIN BBC!
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>>121291235
UK can still have a general election at any point if there's a vote of no confidence
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>>121291608
Where's my WW2 rap already
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>>121290847

he discovered his son is a nigger
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I'm playing as Greece and just reclaimed Albania.

How do I liberate Albania while keeping my sole core province in the south?

I want to have an albanian puppet state without losing my core in Girokaster.
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>>121290648
Will you add ideological loyalty to Britain and the US? It would do leaps and bounds to representing the flawed system of FPTP.

t. CGPgrey
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anyone know how to get GP with poland in v2? I try and use the prussia, AH, and russia against each other but they either refuse to join my wars or pull me into their retarded wars which end up with me getting occupied.

what do i do lads? and please don't say git good
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>>121291608
Wew lad
Better than the rap battle at least
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>>121291982
git gud
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>>121291929
That's impossible
t. Johan
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>>121291929
changeowner it back
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>>121291929
>tfw your mate says the Romans never met the Chinese
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>>121291608
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Jew gsg designed by /pol/ fucking when
I want to control the world with elaborate schemes most people wouldn't even be able to understand
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>malaria
>in fucking siberia
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>>121292438
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>>121292339
Problem is, if I release them, I lose the core. And Greece looks much better with that province, so my border autism wont let me give up the province

>>121292260
Paradox really needs to add a mechanic to select which provinces will go to your puppets. But I guess Johan only cares about more dlcs
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>>121287270
>greedy
golddigger
>gluttonous
landwhale
>gregarious, lustful
slut

0/10 wouldn't seduce
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>>121292651
>mfw a great power intervenes for status quo
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>>121291608
>mfw 6th liberation of French Elsaß-Lothringen
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>>121292564

Realism is not a meaningful argument.

How many times will I have to say that?

Have you pre-ordered HoI4 yet?
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>>121292121
what did u say?
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>>121293126
>Elsaß-Lothringen
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>>121293305
yes, that's what it's called when germany owns it
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>>121293375
No my good sire, you seem to misunderstand, YOU ARE FROM REDDIT!
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>>121291608
>mfw fascist rebels wanting to overthrow Versailles
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>>121293375
>when germany owns it
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>>121293229
git
u
d
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>>121291235
>>121291515
Ok, thanks. I wish there was a party popularity meter, something more visible and clear than just party loyalty, and that the AI would be capable of calling votes. Maybe at some point I could do something with it for the UK.

>>121291312
>>121290905
Alright, thanks a lot!
>>121291968
Yes, but that is only in the game start. As the game goes on, that will degrade.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLL2Txs8kCg

mrw I research railroad techs
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>>121294017
>Yes, but that is only in the game start. As the game goes on, that will degrade.
>Maybe at some point I could do something with it for the UK.

So are you only doing it for the US, not the UK?

Also, surely you could just put the loyalty really really high (100 or so) and it would never degrade?
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>>121294201
I will do for both. For the UK I was talking about a system to do snap elections

And it will degrade. Stuff like losing wars drops it by a lot. Besides, if it never degrades, it also can turn in an one party country.
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>>121294164
>implying it wasn't a Brazilian faggot who created the airplane
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1 more country and then I can form Poland
>tfw Bohemia is all khazar culture after 1 khan settled there because of meme lords
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>mfw in the top 5 automobile producers
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>mfw researching railroad tech before anything else
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>>121294681
>more than 5 countries producing automobiles
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I don't get ck2 straits desu. If there is an iberia to north africa, gotland to sweden and italy to albania why not english channel, cyprus and malta
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What the fuck Bulgaria?
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>>121295623
Realism is not a meaningful argument.
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>>121295762
Quality Paradox AI
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>>121295623
>gotland to sweden
>italy to albania

fucking really? since when? I've not played vanilla in a while
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BEHOLT

GREATER FINLAND!

:-DDDDDDDD
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>>121295892
Can't wait to have a radical Byzantium Polish puppet state.
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>>121295992
What's the next step in your master plan, GroßFinlandium?
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>>121294017
I'd argue the final point of no return was the election of Lincoln in 1860, as much as his policies were not in the best interests of the south, the danger he posed had been greatly exaggerated by the Southern papers and spread by word of mouth, the biggest rumour being Lincoln was going to abolish slavery, which was unfounded at the time, Lincoln being a moderate Republican, wishing to only stop slavery expanding - this still greatly upset many southern politicians, complaining that it was part of a free state conspiracy to weaken the south by creating more free states to outnumber them. But believing Lincoln would abolish slavery pushed southern politicians over the edge for the last time triggering the secession crisis.

It could be possible to add in an event chain to negotiate with the south before fort Sumter, making concessions or promising the status quo, confessions such as turning parts of the Mexican secession into slave states, though this should only delay the process, just outlawing slavery before or after this too should lead to a secession crisis perhaps even worse

What also should be reworked is the the border states secession, the 3 slave states which remained in the Union, Missouri, Kentucky, and even Maryland and also West Virginia - still part of Virginia proper before secession

Currently Maryland, West Virginia, and Missouri are coded to stay in the Union always and with no limits Kentucky nearly, really it should be based on chance as the choice of the border states was a serious issue, all with different chances to stay or leave, Maryland most likely to nearly always stay, similar with Kentucky, Missouri leaning towards saying, and West Virginia 60/40 of seceding back to the Union, even better would be to make it also likely certain parts of the states mag secede, with Baltimore and the sites surrounding area being heavily pro-confederate, same with the south of Missouri where a guerilla war was waged by Confederate supporters
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>>121267463
also, the greeks massacred turkish populations in multiple occupied cities during the turkish war of independence
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>>121296165
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>>121294504
Could you make the decision to form Gran Colombia not require you to own the Panama Canal? It's a huge PITA to get it back from America, even when it should be really easy, and it doesn't make that much sense that you'd absolutely need one little province.
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HPM are you here?
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Rob are you here?
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>>121296302
good
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>>121295623
because they think England being an island creates interesting gameplay but forgot to implement decent naval AI/mechanics to make it true
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Is there any point to increasing relations in vicky 2 other than to get them into the positive for a diplomatic action?
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>>121296247
Nah, by Lincoln it was too late, m8. Johnson was in office for months after the election results were returned, and he didn't do anything about the secession. They had already declared independence and had been operating on their own for months by the time Lincoln--who was the only one who would have been willing to negotiate--was in office, and by that time the South couldn't back down for the sake of honor. We know, because Lincoln tried, and they basically said fuck off.

Although I do agree on the part about the border states. Which states join the Confederacy and stay with the Union in general should be more dynamic. Kansas/Nebraska also could have easily gone either way; so too Arizona/New Mexico.
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>>121294659
Khazars BTFO

How Groß should my Poland be before switching?
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Where can I find the latest version of Geheiminshaft for CK2 ?

Are you still unable to impregnate elves as a human ?
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Kojak are you here?
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Wiz, are you here?
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What's the best way to improve economic base compared to someone else so I can vassal them?
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Bobocrunch are you here?
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> start game of thrones mod for Ck2
> first time,playing this
> start as lonley light island
> my heir is married to Theon, balon won't accept marriage to his direct heir
> assasinated balon
> tried to assasinate the now king of the iron islands
> 70% chance
> he still finds out
> he tells me to knock off the scheming
>ok.jog
> scheming dident work,let's physically overthrow him
>declare war
> balon executes my heir that was to be married to Theon
> oops, dident think that through
> raise my 800 man army and 10 boats
> sail over to the iron islands ...
>.... who have raised over 1500 men and tons of ships
> my men dident even make it over, everyone meet a watery grave
I gained a new respect for bugs that get smeared across windshields
Pic sorta related
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Anon are you here?
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>>121297043
Name my daughter /gsg/
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>>121297631
Ebina
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>>121297631
Benis
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>>121297631
Benisia
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>>121297631
Epic
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>>121297631
Penis
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>>121297032
My bad I nay have misphrased as I agree with you, it was by the election results it was too late, not Lincoln officially taking the president a few months later, as you mentioned the secession crisis was already in full swing while Buchanan was still president for his final months and did nothing to stop this - I'd argue Buchanans southern sympathies and disdain in Lincoln played a role in his inactivity too in thus period, alongside him just being a poor president in general, and taking the approach it wasn't his problem anymore, the only thing I slightly disagree with is that perhaps being a bit optimistic, but if Sumter hadn't occurred there would have been room for more negotiations of some sort, though likely demanding heavy union concessions
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>>121297631
>>121297669
>>121297837
>tfw no son Except the inbred one I killed
>>121297660
>responded in 24 seconds
Impressive desu
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>>121297631
Cock
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>>121297631
>>121298075

Penisia
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Okay guys, I'm about to start working on South Africa for Napoleon's Legacy.
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>>121295892
>>121295892
"end turn" in the bottom left?????????
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>>121298420
They're negotiating a treaty. Each person takes a turn making demands and concessions.
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>>121297030
it helps lets you build up influence quicker to sphere countries if you have high relations
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>>121297436
70% plot power to kill someone? m8 don't even bother unless it's 100%+
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>>121298009
Fuck, it was Buchanan. Why the fuck did I say Johnson?

Well, you're right that without Sumter things might have changed, but Lincoln was the one who gave the order to make a statement at Sumter, and the South was just as interested at making a statement there. Both sides had the opportunity to back down and neither did, so I would call Sumter a truly moot point; there was no room for any real cooperation by then.
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>>121298420

they decided to get rid of the real time people were getting too confused
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>>121298414
Nice. I think it would be cool if British Empire and Netherlands could fight over SA, with three possible outcomes: SA stays independent, SA gets annexed by the Dutch, or SA gets annexed by Britain. Nerfing SA's massive immigration a little bit would be nice too.
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>>121298414

Napoopan's Legacy anon, have you ever thought of reworking the Russian Civil War? Rather then it being between a Constitutional Russia and an autocratic one like it is now, I think a cool idea more based in the history of the Decembrists would be a split between the Northern and Southern Societies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decembrist_revolt#The_Union_of_Salvation

>The political aims of the more moderate Northern Society were a British style constitutional monarchy with a limited franchise, the abolition of serfdom and equality before the law. The Southern Society, under Pestel's influence, was more radical and wanted to abolish the monarchy, establish a republic and redistribute land: taking half into state ownership and dividing the rest among the peasants.

There's a bit more political nuance to both sides, and I do have a historical textbook of Russian history to detail it for you if you're interested.
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>>121298420

We Civilization nao
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>tfw you siege one holding in paris and get the queen of france and two princes as prisoners

glorious
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>>121299015
I don't have plans for South Africa to be fought over, but their assimilation and migration looks like North America levels

>>121299216
Sounds interesting, I can change the Russian civil war because the system now is iffy. Would this push the civil war before or after the current one? The current one happens at 1861~, and I'm willing to move the civil war to the earlier years, and the French Civil War to when communism is enabled
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r8
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>>121299721
What next sherlock? You don't have any fucking manpower.
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>>121299721

>0 manpower

Nice job, dumbass.
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>>121298897
I get everyone's names mixed up constantly, Albert Sidney Johnston and Joseph E. Johnston when writing about Confederate generalship years ago...

true that is a bit of a moot point, since just like you mentioned Lincoln wanted a show of force at Sumter, easily could have evacuated it for the purpose of negotiation defusing tensions - though such a move would have been a huge prestige hit to the Union and a major
boost to the confederacy, probably Lincoln at some level realised the slavery debate would lead to civil
conflict, and he might as well let the south go down in history as the ones who shot first. Any negotiation would have been a huge prestige blow and any compromise, not to mention giving the Confederates time to negotiate abroad too
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>>121299721
t. marco
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>>121299721
t. manpower
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>>121299721
what kinda manpower you want senpai?
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>>121299584
unless youre a pagan thats nothing
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>>121300469
ok
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>>121297137
pls help lads.
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>install the new hpm
>game crashes after loading country every time
>try older version, crashes the same way
>reinstall
>crashing

fug help
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>>121295892
>meme map names
german reich of nazi germany
italian fascism
democratic france
republican usa
libertarian sweden
conservative poland
maoist china
imperial japan
iron guard romania
moderate turkey
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so /gsg/i been having a problem with my DH 1.04f
it seems that there is no way i can in a battle i even tried cheating but nothing worked i think it is a bug plz help
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>>121300848
British Union of Fascism
Imperial Military Junta of Japan
Imperial Romanov Russia
Aturkish Turkish Republic (of Turkey)
Republican State of Ireland
Democratic USA
Republican USA
Neutral Switzerland
Exiled Free France
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>>121301187
check the combat modifiers by hovering over the unit cards. i guess that your attack efficiency is 0 or less, or that there is a huge negative modifier. all due to a bug of course.
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>>121301482
forgot
Estado Novo brazil
Estado Novo Portugal
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>>121301482
Partido Socialista Chile
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>>121301482
LaPlatean Argentina
Duchy of Luxemburg
Colonial Empire of Netherlands
Vichy France
Emu Australia
British colony of India
Non Islamic Persia
Megali Idea Greece
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>>121299667

>Sounds interesting, I can change the Russian civil war because the system now is iffy.

Thanks for being receptive, to answer your questions I'll go into detail on the two briefly.

The main difference between the Northern and Southern Society's were already posted above, but there are further complexities to them. Both societies originated from the Union of Welfare, which split into the two in 1821 due to government pressure and the dispersion of military officers.

The Northern Society's (based in St. Petersburg) constitutional draft by Nikita Muraviev in 1825 showed called for the reorganization of the Russian state into a federation of fifteen states and two provinces, with a hereditary emperor analogous to a U.S. President in powers, sharing power with a bicameral People's Assembly. Serfdom, censorship, and official classes and titles were to be abolished and civil liberties such as freedom of assembly were to be recognized. It was a liberal document, but not a democratic one however, as the right to hold office and vote would still be based on property qualifications, and would not threaten noble landholding rights. Serfowners would lose their serfs, but keep their estates. Muraviev bowed to pressure from more radical Northern Society members while creating it and agreed that freed serfs should be provided with a very small amount of land. This relatively small amount of land would mean many former serfs would continue laboring on their former masters' estates however. Overall in Vicky 2 terms you could interpret them as a Constitutional (like Russia starts now) or Semi-Constitutional Monarchy.

The Southern Society was the more 'radical' of the two. Led by Paul Pestel, son of the former governor-general of Siberia, the Southern Society was based in Ukraine. Pestel's ideas for Russia are outlined in the document 'Russian Justice' (link here if you can speak Russian: http://www.hrono.ru/dokum/ru_pr1825.html). Continued in next post.
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>>121301626
The combat effectiness is not zero but the is this night modifier i dont know what iis causing this problem they simply don lose no matter how much outnumbered they are
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>Japan and Manchukuo take everything I occupied from me in the peace deal with the Soviet Union
fuggin

this means WAR
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>>121302348
oh, you were fighting partisans? i have the impression that partisan warfare uses a completely different system, so that you cannot win immediately just by outnumbering them. you are probably winning, just with a lot of casualties. 5x timespeed to test the result. or declare war to someone else, and see if you can cause casualties. also kill yourself for playing on easy.
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>>121302348
Does the same thing happen in darkest hour full or just in that mod?
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>>121299871
>>121299998
>>121300376
>>121300449
>there are people who think having manpower sitting uselessly in reserve is a good thing.

Not even him, you guys are bad at HoI3.
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>>121302247
This looks pretty good, but I have to go now. I'll definitely implement your idea.But would that mean the capital of the Southern Society be based in Kiev, or even Moscow?

On another note, South Africa looks fixed now, but I have a question for everybody. Should I give South Africa slavery allowed? It would work well with my idea that they conquer Madagascar and other lands But I don't want a south african steppe wolf mod
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>>121302247
>>121299667

Pestel outlined a rigid centralization of the Russian state in the document and even Russification on local levels, whereas the Northern Society granted room for local powers in areas that included non-Russians. An English translation of one part of it says the new administration should "constantly aim at making them [the nationalities] into one single nation and at dissolving all differences into one common mass." The Poles and Jews would be the only exceptions to this as Pestel was willing to make concessions for them. He held secret negotiations with some Poles and suggested in his drafts the possibility of Polish independence under certain conditions. For Jews who would not wish to assimilate, Pestel suggested helping them emigrate to Asia Minor, where they could establish their own state. The main difference from the Northern Society's plans however was the implementation of a republic. In it power would be divided between a unicameral People's Assembly, a 5-person state Duma, and a 120-member Supreme Council. However, to bring about this system Pestel counted on a military coup, followed by a temporary dictatorship of intermediate length that would transform into a republic over time (in theory). Pestel's document, while still caling for the elimination of serfdom, censorship, and official class distinctions, also had an insistence on secret political police organizations and a ban on private organizations and societies.

The radicalness of Pestel's plan was also shown in his granting of full citizenship rights-to all men over twenty-and in his radical land reform plans. Half of all land of the country's wealthiest property owners was to be confiscated, and every citizen was to have the right to enough public land (from communes) to provide for his family.

>>121303202

The Southern Society's capital would probably be in Kiev then. I'd love to talk more but since you're going I'll leave it at that, thanks for reading.
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>>121303202
forgot pic

going to update changelog cause I should do that sooner or later
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>>121302883
this battle as being going for a long time they just wont die
>>121302986
it happens with or without mods but this just happens with version 1.04,version 1.03 works fine
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>>121303410

Oh and I ran out of room for my citation.

Moss, Peter G. "A History of Russia, Volume I: To 1917. Second Edition."Anthem Press, 2005.
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>>121303484
do what i told you. declare a war to a real country and see if combat is normal. if it is, then it's probably some issue with partisan warfare? if it isn't, then reinstall and see if it persists..
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>>121303420
Rhodesia mod when
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>>121298075
Poland time is now lads
>>121303420
Great mod desu senpai, is it still possible to win the war with South Africa as Xhosa?
Can you add an event chain for Spain to take its former colonies back? Right now Spain is just a boring grind and the USA would be too weak for a Monroe Doctrine.
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tfw instead of building railways capitalists are just funding shit factories that go bankrupt within months of completion
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>>121303841
Did it dont know why so much casualties
Also i won againts the partisans but lost most of my troops and it didnt even kill all of then
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>>121299667
French civil war should be triggered if the government switches from constitutional monarchy imo, I've seen France just get fucked up by wave after wave of Jacobins, Reactionaries and Socialists and just get run over when the civil war comes. If the Napoleonic government collapses, it doesn't seem right that the non-French would stay peacefully. Also, Napoleonic Spain should be able to turn into Spain if Spain becomes Cuba.
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>>121304519

The free market will fix it
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>>121291608
i like this one t b h
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>>121304794
what is your checksum (of dh full)?
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>>121304794
The casualties there are because of the less advanced land doctrines most likely. Don't know what's going on with the partisan combats though.
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>>121304313
>Can you add an event chain for Spain to take its former colonies back? Right now Spain is just a boring grind and the USA would be too weak for a Monroe Doctrine.
this desu senpai
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>>121273920
>Iowa
And they were so close to having good borders
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Finally conquered Jerusalem. Cost me 30k lives and made the Byzantines revolt.
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>>121305804
It is FGYE
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>>121259095
So does the EU4 multiplayer patch in the archive work? Has anyone tried it?
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>>121306509
mine too. i really can't figure out your problem. either try to reinstall or contact parakeks forum.
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>>121304313
Attacking the Khazars for their last uninhabited territory in Poland so polish culture comes back
>tfw Khazars have been in Poland this long
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>>121307529
i will try thanks for the help
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>>121259095
im a beginner should i just go with EU4 to start with ?
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>>121307716
nice pecs
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>>121307716
fugggg DDD:
>>121307752
Sure, Eu4 is great to get into the basics of grand strategy desu. it's not too complicated
Make sure to pirate it though
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>>121307752
Yeah pirate EU4 or at least pirate the DLC and then go for Vicky 2.
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Ok so im playing elder kings it took me 60 years but I united cyordil. Mosly nebenay still holds a chunk in the south. Now my question is how do I form tamriel/become the nine divine/convert the other major relams to the eight divine. I read to become Talos I need to just survey sacre tor but I also read that the chance of finding it is something insane like .00001%.
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>>121303908
I was really hoping nobody remembered that. How about tomorrow? But I won't actively update.
>>121304313
Pretty sure it still is, but a bit harder, but they can still get messed up.
I can do something about Spain since they're really lame
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>>121308424
Khazars removed from Eastern Poland Please invest
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>>121308963
>thinking we could simply forget about Rhodesia
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>>121309140
>What this guys said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBVDdr3wqm4
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>>121309036
What do /gsg/?
>>121308963
>>121309140
>Forgetting Rhodesia
baka (shaking my head) desu (to be honest) senpai (family)
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>>121309702
;_;7 never fucking forget
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>>121309886
>not embracing baka desu senpai

best thing that's happened to 4chan desu
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>>121310220
>Because of paradox cancelling EvW you will never keep this great nation great
It hurts so fucking bad.
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How do I deal with this rabble, lads? They're pissed at my successor.

Do I just ignore them since they lack the manpower to back their claims?
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>>121303146
>he thinks having no manpower in 1938 is something that's perfectly fine

ok lad
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>>121310309
kubi o furu hontouda kazoku
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>>121310661
>>121310661
all of them are weak as fuck dont worry about them going to war, it's just a friendly reminder that they hate you
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>playing as Persia and chill
>Russia grows scarier, keeps GP and is building an industry on par with me
>war with them
>they don't mobilize
>try to dig in the neighbouring mountains
>50k Russians come in
>battle takes forever but ends up with me losing 10k and them 40k
>go into Turkmen plains to finish the job with 5.0 attack general
>random other 50k stack shows up
>fug.jpg
>notice there's more battles going on
>some of my perfectly shaped 30k stacks somehow get destroyed
>panic
>they also aren't attacking our digged in brigades in Tabriz and just keep going in and out of the Ottomans
>they invented gas attack during our war
>notice 4 battles I didn't engage taking place
>fucking atrucious casualities
>it also takes so fucking long other Russian 50k stacks keep sieging nearby provinces successfully and eventually join the battles that I should win
>this goes on for fucking 3 years
>finally managing to push them off, lost GP and my industry/military are severely handicapped
>about to fully occupy Turkmenia with my two 30k brigades left
>180k Romanian army with 50k artillery, 125% military tactics and 24 military techs shows up
Fucking wew lads
How do I properly wage war with the Russians? Calling a stronger ally is just a waste of a war as I won't be able to add any wargoals. It just feels like ~70 brigades are too low for such thing. I could mobilize, but then I'd lose the only thing getting me war score.
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>>121310661
>no normandy
More like Mediocre Britain.
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>>121301909
Kek
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>>121311289
wait so you'd rather have your army and industry fucked up from losing battles and getting sieged up than mobilise??
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>>121311207
Thanks, I won't bother appeasing those losers then.
>>121311443
I'm trying, I'm trying. Need more time.
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>>121308963
DUTCH
INFINITE
INFAMY
GLITCH
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>>121311852
Explain
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>>121311730
yes
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>>121311909
Check the Netherlands' infamy after ~1870.
Sometimes they'll even reach +100 despite not taking a single state from any Indonesian unciv
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>>121310927
Having troops deployed is always better than manpower in reserve.

Which would you rather have, 250 manpower worth of troops and 250 manpower in the bank, or 500 manpower worth of troops? Obviously the latter.
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How do I make eu4 fun, /gsg/?
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>>121312614
you know exactly what answers you'll get lad
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>>121309886
Ever since the mongols screwed them over the Khazars have been lightweights
>>121310309
>Not wanting to be able to say t-b-h or s-m-h
(w)ew lad
>>121312614
Play a colonizer or a country frequently involved in wars/trade
Eu4 is boring without war desu lad
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lets see how good you lads are at low pixel geography

where is this naval port?

Hint: this is ck2
Hint 2: somewheres in northern europe
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>>121312614
I haven't played in a long time, but I've heard that uninstall.exe comes highly recommended.
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>>121312990
Wales
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>Play United Kingdom for the first time
>Three parties: Conservative, Whig, Tory
>Conservative and Tory are two different parties

Nice one Paradox
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>>121312837
>>121313063
I know, I just want to recapture the comfyness of eu3. The mana system honestly breaks the game for me.

>>121312890
I'm just going to play ck2 desu
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Alright, the UK is done.

>>121296583
I think it adds a nice layer of difficulty and it makes sense, since they were part of the original union.

>>121296247
Thanks a lot anon, I will take this into consideration and I think the election of Lincoln is something that's definitively needed for the ACW.
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>>121313250
Nope. Further east.
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>>121259671
How do I make one of those world maps? Just finished my first Victoria II game and want to share.
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>>121312174
i'd rather have the troops and the manpower tbf because im not a skrub
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>>121312990
MEMEl
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>>121313974
further north and then further east

This isn't going anywhere

Okay guys try and guess this one instead
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>>121313451
england
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>>121313959
Then you'd be completely destroyed in any MP game. I guess playing shitty is fine vs. the AI.
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>>121314247
Åland desu
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>>121314247
ALAND
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>>121314247

Ahvenanmaa
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>>121313437
HPM, would it be possible to have Italy try harder to gain Tunis? At the time, there was a large Italian minority, and the Italian government even proposed a condominium with France.
https://books.google.com/books?id=5Cfuax6XHF0C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q=tunis&f=false
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>>121314281
easter
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>>121313437
HPM please don't do Australia yet I am the guy who was originally developing the Australia addon and I haven't been able to do much work on it yet but once I finish my uni exams in about a month I have unlimited freetime for to complete it
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>>121314736
Seconding what this anon is saying. It was said that tunis was an italian colony under french management.
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What happens when an unlanded character inherits a kingdom title? I just pressed a claim on Denmark and am electing one of my sons that I don't plan to play as, but I don't own any land in Denmark.
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>>121315139
Well if you're giving someone a title of equal rank to you they will become independent and completely seperate from you.
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>>121315519
I know that. I want my dynasty on the throne. I just was wondering if he'd forcibly take the capital from the duke that owns it or if he'd get a county from me.
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>>121310661
wew I thought you were cumberland lad until I saw what your empire's name was.
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http://strawpoll.me/5924061
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>>121272630
If you are going to do that please for the love of all that is holy redo the 54-40. and Ostend Manifesto decisions and maybe also the Guadeloupe Hidalgo decision so that Mexico doesn't take land that you already own from previous wars.

Also I was just wondering is it possible to remove an accepted culture from your country via decison? I was toying with the idea of getting rid of Dixie from radical reconstruction or the Spanish American war as a special event.
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>>121315935
NO REST FOR THE TRAITORS.
NO RETREAT FOR THE HAN.
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>>121315935
>anything other than based sun quan
wu lad
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>>121314324
>justifying anything with 'muh multiplayer'

kill yourself
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>>121312890
Name my daughter /gsg/
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>>121316906
Hitlerina
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>>121316906
Wizette
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>>121316906
Anastazja
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>>121316906
Anne Frank
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>>121316906
Anastazja
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>>121316906
>>121317360
>>121317362
wew
>>121317390
>>121317996
【°〜°】
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>1780 – The Rebellion of Túpac Amaru II against Spanish rule in the Viceroyalty of Peru begins.

Tupac alive in Peru confirmed?
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>>121313437
>I told HPM to devote all of his time and resources into something as meaningless as making the UK a two party system
>he actually did it the absolute madman

Thanks a lot, HPM, but will this allow wiggle room for it to flip or will the results always be an extremely marginal win for the Whigs? Because they lost the next election.
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how gross
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>>121313437
Also, if you're still here post party loyalty map mode plox
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You wake up and the Americas look like this. What do?

also r8
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Just recently got Victoria II and played through my first game lads. What mod should I use for my next game desu?
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>>121314828
>in about a month I have unlimited freetime for to complete it

Lad, you've had about 6 months to complete this, your grant was for a single month. Give it the fuck up and let a dedicated modder do it.
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>>121318831
robmod
t. rob
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>>121318831
robmod
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>>121318772
Which white country/state is the most racist? I'll go to that one.
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>>121318930
>>121318940
nice hivemind
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>>121318831
A lot of ignorant fuckwits will tell you robmod, don't worry, they're just meming you. The only correct answer is paradoxplazamod, it adds tonnes of new events and even takes good features from other mod's so it's like if you took the best mod in the world and then added every other mod's good features.
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>>121318772
My wife says your map is shit
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>>121319221
well what else could you type with :^)
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>>121294504
>For the UK I was talking about a system to do snap elections

That's what the "hold election" button is their to simulate, I believe, but I wouldn't mind a fleshed out version, I particularly like the "scandal triggers election" events that NNM adds, anything like that would be brilliant.
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>>121319318
what the fuck does that even mean
>>
Is there a way to make Crusader Kings 2's water non animated, without actually disabling in the settings?
I don't want an endless abyss, I want flat, simple, and blue water. Is that so much to ask, paradox?
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>>121319636
you type with your hands
>>
I haven't played EU4 since the 2nd or 3rd expansion.

Is it worth it to get "Common Sense"? I have all the rest but the reviews are a bit shit for it on Steam.
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>>121318772

>southern brazil swallowed by uruguay
>not the other way around

wew lad
that is like switzerland annexing germany
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Why is vic 2 lagging for me on the country select screen? I checked CYRI and it says I pass all minimum requirements
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>>121318930
>>121318940
>>121319210
Nice memes lads
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>>121319995
i just couldn't pick a good flag for south brazil
gib suggestions
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>>121318831
Ignore the shitposters. Most people stick with HPM to learn the game and will play other mods (Napoleon's Legacy, for example) when they learn more.

At least, I did/do.
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Sup /gsg/,

What modules should I install with HIP mod in CK2?

pic unrelated
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>>121295892
The most annoying thing is the inconsistency. It should be Nazi Germany and Radical Yugoslavia, not German Reich and Yugoslavian Radicality
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>>121318772
it's shit
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>>121320143
Flag of Rio Grande do Sul lad cmon..
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>>121314736
Yes, I know I need to represent Italian interests in the region better. I will think about something.

>>121314828
Don't worry, I'm not in a hurry to do it.

>>121315946
I don't know what you mean with 54-40 or Ostend Manifesto since you weren't specific, but G-H is supposed to give the land back. I doubt they would sign it if the USA was already occupying their land and weren't going to give it back during the treaty.

Yes, it's possible to remove accepted cultures through events/decisions.

>>121318552
That won't make it a two party system, but I don't mind adjusting the initial electoral make up for democracies. It's a good thing, in my opinion.

I'm not sure of the effects right now. I think it has room to change and once the socialists rise it willl probably make everything different.

>>121318716
See pic related.

>>121319615
I know, but the AI never calls snap elections and there really is barely use to do it.
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>>121320385
i was thinking about it but no
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WHAT THE FUCK

7 DAUGHTERS

All I want is a son so the game doesn't end when I die jesus christ

I have some good traits so I want to raise him myself and I'm running out of time and my useless fucking wife keeps shitting these out

firstborn turned out successful enough I guess
not a male though
can't run a kingdom
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>>121320436
Holy shit HPM, that's some good autism right there, it looks perfect.

Well, except maybe Orkney and the Shetlands should be bright yellow but beggars can't be choosers.

You should think about doing the same for other fully fledged democracies of the time, like Sweden and possibly France, though obviously they'd be harder to simulate due to France not using FPTP.
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>>121318091
Decent Polish borders have been achieved

I will switch to a new goal and character soon
Ending here for now
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>>121320869
seduction time nigga
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>>121320436
Did you implement the Cyprus transfer event for UK yet?
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>>121320143

m8
did you even do any research into it?
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>>121321123
no because i literally do not care about your irrelevant shitholee
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>>121321195

as no gives a fuck about your autistic map.
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>>121321289
some people do : )
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>>121320436
Also, I think one of the most important regions to do politically is Spain, there should be a large reactionary loyalty in the Basque and Catalonia areas representing the Carlists.
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So can anyone give me a satisfying reason why Britain is commie in Kaiserrreich?
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>>121320881
Shetlands and Orkney aren't separate so they are lumped together. It's not perfect but it can't be with the way stuff is modeled.

I will do something for the USA but I doubt there will be good data for other countries like the UK and the USA have.

>>121321091
You mean the one where the UK offers Cyprus in exchange for the vital support of Greece in a great war? Nope.
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>>121321546

Are you planning on doing anything with New England?
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>>121321546
Yes but in real life both the Shetlands and Orkney were solid Whig.
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>>121318772
>arica and tarapacá part of peru-bolivia
even if it is full of peruvians it's still ours
>patagonia
what is this shit, seriously, there has never being a state with that flag
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>>121320436
Out of curiosity, do you have any idea on how to simulate condominiums like Oregon/Columbia? I know it's probably not a priority, but I was curious if there was anyway to model a situation like that.
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>>121321739
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>>121321546
Shetlands, Orkney and the western isles should be seperate provinces
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>>121321685
Not really, I don't have any plans for them.

>>121321815
You don't. Joint control is something that can't really be represented well in V2.
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>>121322094

Your mod is shit
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>>121321878
>unrecognized state
Yeah, that's a real state for sure.
also from the same article
>He did not receive further punishment because he was deemed to be insane by both Chilean and Argentine authorities and sent to a madhouse in Chile
There's your king
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>>121322094
It sort of can, British puppet/American sphere or vice versa, just ban the puppet master from influencing some how.
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>>121321878
few of the things on the map were recognized/lasted/existed
it doesn't matter
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>>121320869
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>>121322094
What do you intent to trigger snap elections with? Death of PM/president?

You could have events like "recent surge in polls" that triggers a snap election and ruling party support of +10% or something.
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>>121323007
It was just an idea to better simulate the irregularity and the way the british handled stuff. But calling a snap election doesn't have much benefits in game, it was just an idea, not something I really plan to do in the foreseeable future.
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>>121323273
So you have any plans for south america?
I really want to see chilean as a nationality
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>>121320869
elective. Also have you tried seduction focus, seducing everyone and legitimising male bastards
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Alright guys,

New game here since my Morrowind save was bugged.


Started out as the Chief of Felsad in Solstheim, and conquered the whole island.

Where do you suggest I go from here? Should I try to conqueor some territory in Skyrim, take the Atmoran islands to the north, or swear fealty to a larger kingdom?

Game is pretty challenging since I'm Skall culture and All-maker religion, which literally no one else is. Thinking of trying to get my son to convert to the divines, and then change my kingdom over to make diplomacy in Skyrim easier.
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>>121323273
Roughly when will 0.3.3.8 be out? This month?
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>>121323865
There's no set date but yes, probably this month.

>>121323504
I have a few events to deal with crisis and stuff there, but I won't split cultures in nationalities there.
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>>121323724
What's the lore behind those lone islands in the Northeast? They look comfy af.
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>>121323724
I say take the atmoran islands, possibly atmora itself if you get a bit more powerful
Then do a reenactment of the atmoran/companions invasion and forming of the first empire and take over skyrim
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>>121324129
I don't known if there is any. They appear on some older official maps, but I'm not even sure they are actually Atmoran in the lore.
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>>121324129
iceland
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>>121324129
They're BRETESH
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>>121324120
Are you looking forward to Victoria 3?
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HPM, Belgium did that thing where it refuses to give up territory, and prussia released luxembourg. the netherlands lost their cores on all of belgium, including limburg, but not on luxembourg. would it be possible to exchange the core in lux for limburg?
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HPM, Belgium's teasing me again, tell him to stop it!
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>>121311289
If this is Victoria 2, just spam improve relations with Russia and UK so you dont get Great Game'd. Above 100 relations, they cant justify wargoals against you
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HPM, mind taking a look at these flags? It always bothered me how gaudy and low quality they were in HPM/vanilla; there's no difference conceptually.

https://imgur.com/a/uCFQS
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>>121325708
>>121324120
Semi related, take a look at my ENG_republic flag>>121259282 and tell me what you think.

It's not a standard tricolour because that looked too Hungarian, the six six pointed stars represent the six points of the people's charter, the actual charter the chartists were on about, what do you think?
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If whoever is doing Poopmod is around I have a few issues. Most of them are minor but some are big.

Big one
-France lost to the Coalition of Nations but is still at war with them. Reloading the game did nothing and they have an army on an OPM German province. The country is also completely non-selectable.

Medium (fucked my game up though)
-The Swedish core in Germany becomes a a Scandinavian core once you enact the political union and is necessary for forming Scandinavia. It probably shouldn't even be a Swedish core in the first place I would imagine.

Small stuff
-Sweden still gets events that implies it owns Norway (that one about the Norwegian flag on ships or whatever)
-Some Swedish provinces are fucked up, like Malmö is called Malm?Malm?Malm?
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>>121324120
Rename farmers to pheasant pluckers.
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>>121326396
>-Some Swedish provinces are fucked up, like Malmö is called Malm?Malm?Malm?

Why is this funny to me?
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>>121326858
Because you're sleep deprived anon, go to bed and have a nice long sleep.
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Question for you lads, if there was to be a genocide to improve the vitality of the human species, only 6 foot tall+, only 100 iq+, fewest hereditary diseases, etcetera would you happily report to the genocide chambers for the advancement of human society or would you try to blend in/hide?
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HPM, mind taking a look at these flags? It always bothered me how gaudy and low quality they were in HPM/vanilla; there's no difference conceptually.

https://imgur.com/a/uCFQS
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>>121325708
>>121324120
Semi related, take a look at my ENG_republic flag>>121259282 and tell me what you think.

It's not a standard tricolour because that looked too Hungarian, the six six pointed stars represent the six points of the people's charter, the actual charter the chartists were on about, what do you think?
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If whoever is doing Poopmod is around I have a few issues. Most of them are minor but some are big.

Big one
-France lost to the Coalition of Nations but is still at war with them. Reloading the game did nothing and they have an army on an OPM German province. The country is also completely non-selectable.

Medium (fucked my game up though)
-The Swedish core in Germany becomes a a Scandinavian core once you enact the political union and is necessary for forming Scandinavia. It probably shouldn't even be a Swedish core in the first place I would imagine.

Small stuff
-Sweden still gets events that implies it owns Norway (that one about the Norwegian flag on ships or whatever)
-Some Swedish provinces are fucked up, like Malmö is called Malm?Malm?Malm?
Anonymous 11/05/15(Thu)15:06:25 No.121326830
>>121324120
Rename farmers to pheasant pluckers.
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>>121324129
That's Roscrea. Relatively little is know about it. Became part of the Empire rather late, later came under Nord control IIRC.
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>>121328076
Now you're just fucking with me...
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>tfw stop playing whenever your world ends up looking like shit
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>>121271339
Just because it ticks the all the boxes doesnt mean it looks good
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Get fucked bongs
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>>121328228
Just because you take massive cocks up your arse every night doesn't make you a faggot.
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>>121259671
believable worlds
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>>121328296
your flag looks generic as shit, get over it
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>>121328439
So does the monarchy UK flag, just a bunch of saltires and crosses.
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>>121323724
That sounds like the most boring game ever. Play as a breton and unite high rock. Or a wood elf.
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>>121328591
no dude its fucking english history... at least keep st. georges cross.
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Rate my yurop, /gsg/.
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>>121328935
>godless Republicans
>commemorating a saint

The whole point of the chartists is their against all the old symbols, monarchs, gods, factories, landowners, capitalists, the chartists were essentially proto communists except the end goal was a democratic republic rather than a worker's commonwealth.
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who /youngmosley/ here
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>>121329115
Other than that bit of land above Israel(Antioch?), your lack of Italy and the usual Slav shit, it seems pretty good
Post religion+culture
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r8 my english republic flag
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who /smugmosley/ here
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>>121331273
>tfw no qt3.14 fuhrer
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uh HPM put your bias aside for a second but why does belgium have cores on flanders and wallonia?
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>ask you lads how to play as poland in v2
>u lads say "git good"
>be poland, 1860s
>get 100% flashpoint tension on my cores
>immideately after i become a GP
>feels bad man
>see german-russian alliance + italy raping AH
>decide to claim cores
>declare war, siege couple cored provinces
>provinces turn to baby shit green
>russia got those provinces
>i get an auto white peace with austria
>now completely boxed in between russia and germany...who are in an alliance
>1939 when

i got good...but it wasn't good enough
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To the OP of the next thread, please use the up to date EU4 DD.

Also, it'd soothe my autism if the word "archive" was green-texted instead of hashtagged, and if there was one less line space before it.
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>>121331140
>I can't think of a logical counterargument to your aforementioned description of the flag you made so I will resort to vague memery to discredit both you and your flag

3/10
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Who should i play as in EU3+?
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>only thing keeping me from doing this is my regent's reluctance

[worried laughter]
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>>121331140
t. resort to vague memery lad
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Been trying to play as bulgaria in vicky 2 and running into some issues.

So I've been immediately working on my literacy with intellectuals, followed by bureaucrats till 100%. I'm at the point where id like to start industrializing, but i don't have any access to coal. Serbia and Wallachia have coal in spades, but i cant attack them due to Russia/Ottomans protecting them. What should i do?
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>>121331140
t. vague memery resortion lad
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>HPP is shit
>BlackICE is a literal meme
>DWI is good but only as germany
Are there any HoI mods that are not just a few changed stats, and are actually good?
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>>121282293
What do the Americas look like?
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Wew, England is united now!

Rate this Carolingian England
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>>121332641
>Come on guys its 1223
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>>121331140
t. lad of vague meme resorts
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>>121333050
No HoI3 mods are good if you want good mods play vicky or DH. Why are there no good HoI3 mods?
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>>121331140
t. vague lad of resorted memes
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>>121331140
t. memes that resort to vague land
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>>121333479
>>121333374
>>121333135
>>121333024
t. failing to start a meme lads
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>>121332274
>>121332675
>>121333024
>>121333135
>>121333374
>>121333479
>tried to quote all these and say all me ;)
>filter thinks its spam
p good filter desu
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>>121332892
i don't understand the "need coal to industrialize in V2" meme.

also I don't remember how bulgaria is with regard to primary/accepted pops but if you have mostly primary/accepted you should do bureaucrats first and then intellectual

also play hpm or nnm at least
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>>121333660
>hpmeme
>nnmeme
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Ey luds, vat sortav fanky tunes do you listen to while blobbing?

https://youtu.be/QA8sZgx7ZK8
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>>121333812
首を振る 本当だ 家族
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>>121334030
The best music to come out of the best continent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU6eudd9nu8
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>>121333660
Am playing HPM. Only accepted culture is Bulgaria and barely half Bulgarian in most provinces. If i don't need coal to industrialize, what should i make? Wine/Liquor? Im not an expert by any means, considering the only successful game i had was as Italy
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Guys what the fuck.

Playing HOI3 and:

Saudi Arabia just joined the Axis, while still having their independence guaranteed by the UK. What the hell does this mean for the world? I don't understand it.
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>>121334046
In the civilized world we use letters and not childish drawings to communicate.
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who /4hoursleepandabadtummy/ here
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>>121265093
The amount of men vassals give depends on their opinion of you.
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>>121334610
>Letting japan take Iran and Spain
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>>121334610
me
feels bad man
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Why the hell is this chapel i own saying i have the wrong holding type?
This is in elder kings, i have given it to a priestess courtier and it did nothing, ended up assassinating her to get it back and give it to a mage and it did nothing
Does culture need to be the same, or can it be different to the province? They both have the same religion
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>Adventurer Suleyman the Boogeyman shows up to take Armenia for himself, no doubt to give in to his natural Turkish desire to genocide innocent Armenians.
>Has 20,000 troops
>Not entirely afraid of him, but I'm dealing with an uppity Caliph and the liberation of Sicily from Norman conquerors.
>Despot of Georgia decides he's having none of this Turk's bullshit, attacks one of his stacks with no chance in hell of winning and manages to cut this prideful faggot down.
>All his soldiers shrug and fuck off back to Seljuk lands.

Can a vassal be so based?
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>>121336598
I would really like to know this please, the garrison and retinue are completely empty and i need them to win an upcoming war, if i lose it i pretty much lose the entire game
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CK2 question: besides "convert and give de jure land" is there a way to vassalize the different religious heads of the different branches of Christianity as the Byzantine Emperor?
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any news on stellaris? i want to spess.
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>>121337328
Make sure to give him the Duchy of Azerbaijani when you invade it as a reward for his service.
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>discussing vietnam war with group of friends
>someone mentions second indochina war being another name for it
>another guy says that the first indochina war was korean war
>spend 10 minutes telling him he's wrong, and telling him what it actually is
>doesn't believe us

help lads. we even showed him the article on wikipedia and he was still defensive.
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>>121338383
>it ain't me starts playing
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>>121338080

I want to kick the Turks out of the Horn of Africa, but don't really feel like blobbing to do it. Think I'm going to form the Empire of Abyssinia and then give it to a prominent Ethiopian/Nubian House.

Should I force them to convert to Orthodoxy or let them be their own style of Christian?
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how do i encourage the poap to declare a crusade
the crusades are unlocked but he doesnt seem interested in declaring one

research says i can ask for a crusade if its been 30 years since the last one, but there hasnt even been a 'last' one..
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>>121339089
Let them be their own style. Coptic is GOAT.
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>vassal spends 30 years building up a large retinue
>it dies to a large independence revolt that spawns in the vassal's capital

just a complete waste of gold
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Why do air missions suck so much?

>want air superiority over one province
>nope, gotta make them fly randomly over some retarded region shape
How am I supposed to do my amphib invasions now?
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>>121341254
why don't you just focus the air mission on one province? It gives you the option to do it when you set the mission
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>>121341537
Because on air superiority its either Area or Region not province
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>>121339092
Check the criteria on the wiki.
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>>121339089
>not being Catholic
Not true Roman/10
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What are the drawbacks of surpassing the infamy threshold in HPM?
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>>121342657
2/2 Aside from everyone declaring war on you.
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Why the fuck do people claim France is an easy nation in EU4? Their le epic troops do fuck all when you're surrounded by enemies with shitty manpower in a tight space
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>Hoi3 BI
>dismantle Yugo
>have Turkey take Iraq and Syria
>have UK declare war on Italy to install democracy for invading Abessynia
>the documentary Battlefield is running on second monitor
comfy times
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>>121336598
>>121337351
Bump
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>>121342657
it give more negative "polical consideration" when deciding who to back for a crisis.
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Christ, this Horse Lords DLC sure makes CK2 run like absolute shit. Its all stuttering and lagging like crazy now.

Of course you cant turn the damn thing off otherwise the new mongol hordes that invade from the East dont actually work correctly anymore without it.
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>>121344948
>otherwise the new mongol hordes that invade from the East dont actually work correctly anymore without it
But they don't work correctly WITH the DLC on too.
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>>121343020
Are you taking the piss mate?
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How aesthetic are these borders?
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>>121345141
I'm not desu, I played a game where the only power that didn't rival me was Aragorn. I battled Portugal, Venice, and England to reclaim my cores, and just as the war was coming to an end with my manpower whittled away Burgundy declare war on me. What the fuck do you expect me to do senpai.
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>>121345331

Use your shitload of cash/income and use mercenaries instead, baka.
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>>121345395
>shitload of advisors

I make like 3 quid a month with only one advisor

I swear this feels like one giant meme, I'm always stressed as fuck playing as France
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>>121263443
I've always hated idiots who just yell memes

but

GIT GUD
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>>121345463

In that case all you need is a good cup of git gud
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>>121345463
*shitload of income
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>>121345509
I think it is desu. I don't understand how people play small nations, I can only play Ironman with the likes of Russia or Ottomans or countries in good positions like Castile.
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>>121297137
>>121300579
CK2 forums, user modification subsection. Just log in with your paradox account.
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Well that's just great. Seems my 27 hour CK2 save has become corrupted at some point, any of the files I have available to load all show up as having no landed characters anywhere on the map.
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quill18 isn't that bad to be honest

why does everyone here hate him?
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>>121318772
Might be nice if I could actually tell where the fuck the borders between countries are. I can't at all make out what the fuck is happening in the northeast U.S.
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>>121345692
Because he a fedora wearing degenerate who fucks his aunt?
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>>121345675

Small nations are even easier because the only ones that care about you (i.e. want to fuck you up) are other small nations.

When you become/are a bit bigger you have to be careful with everyone around you.

But then you become even bigger and no one can stop you.

EU4 in a nutshell
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>>121345772
Nothing wrong with fucking your aunt if she has good claims.
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>>121345772
lmao sounds pretty based desu senpai
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>>121345331
> I played a game where the only power that didn't rival me was Aragorn.

That's one of the worst parts about EU4. The rival system is a nice idea but it's very poorly implemented. To start with, having rivalries at the start of the game more or less randomized is a horrible idea. I was trying to do an ironman run where I united the Manchu tribes and formed Qing, and I had to restart 7 times before I finally got a game where I wasn't rivaled by every other country in the area.

The other problem is when countries that you've been allied with for centuries suddenly rival you for no reason. I think it has something to do with how fucked the "desires your provinces" system is. I've seen cases where a country only wants on province from me and it gives them a -63 opinion malus or something, and then there are other cases where a country desires half my nation and they only get a -11 or so opinion malus.
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/gsg/ newfag here

What does "meme countries" mean?
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>>121346252
A country that everyone actually despises but pretends to like because it's a meme.

Prussia and Germany, for example.
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>>121346343
The examples are definitely correct but your definition is spotty. I like Prussia but they are definitely a meme country.
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>>121346343
>people despise Germany and Prussia

Nah, fuck off.
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>>121346076
Yeah I've seen that nation break our alliance and really over and over until they couldn't really anymore because the malus from desiring my province went up and down over the years.
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>tfw can't decide which country i'm going to play
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>>121346467
t. Prussia pro
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>>121346978
true desu
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>>121346928
uninstall.exe
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>>121346928
Paraguay desu senpai
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>>121346252
They are the countries everyone seems to play on their first few tries, and then tries to show off once they've done something "nifty". The problem is everyone has done it and it is not nifty, it is blasé. The normal one to see is "check out my prussia->ngf->germany! I took most of europe", and basically it is boring to see the same blobs over and over again.

There is also the complete opposite, where a country is small and very hard and because of that it gets done to death e.g. restoring byzantine empire or ryuku conquests. And lastly there are just some loud ethnicities online, particularly in the balkans so countries like slovenia become actual memes.
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Tbh, I miss a new thread.
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Do nomads have 10% theocracies and burghers vassal counties limit?
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I already asked this earlier in the thread but I'll ask again because I haven't made up my mind: If I'm forming Grossdeutschland as Austria, is it worth incurring 40 infamy to retain my non-core provinces or should I release them for a combined -26 infamy?
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The year is 1929 and The Pan Atlantic Fulcrum (consisting of the Free American Empire and the Free Greater Finland) controls: all of the North American and South American continents, much of Africa's coast (including South Africa), as well as Spain, Sweden, Portugal, Norway, Denmark, Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania, Iran, and Afghanistan.

Currently, the Axis consists of Germany, Italy, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Albania, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Japan, and Saudi Arabia.

The Allies are The United Kingdom, France, Bhutan, Iraq, Oman, and Yemen.

Communists are the USSR, Mongonia, Tannu Tuva, and Sinkang.

Saudi Arabia's independence is still guaranteed by the United Kingdom as well, so we have NO clue how the hell this will work out when war breaks out.

Far as we can tell the Allies will most likely go to war with the Axis when they are supposed to, but once that happens it could go any way. This is a very different world so far.

Will the Soviets make a move on Axis Poland? Will they move on Finland and start a different Winter War? Will the UK strike the Axis like usual, or will they instead move against the Pan Atlantic Fulcrum due to the threat it poses to the UK?

So many questions, and it could go any which way. Its exciting as hell.
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>>121336598
>>121337351
>>121344483
I haven't been able to play since i posted this question, i just have the game paused
Please help
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>tfw go from neet to wageslave
>tfw shifts end at 4am
>tfw no longer have endless time to play gs and funpost

kill me
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Lads, should I? The state has a lot of accepted pops and probably more than 500k, which is around of one third of my total population right now, I believe. But I have a decision that gives me a reform that increases my literacy gain, but I need to have 10% literacy first, and acquiring a state this big would surely set me back a decade at least. I'm not used to play uncivs btw
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>>121348886
Afghanistan has a very very large army for its size like the zulu. Expect a tough fight.
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>>121348886
Iran's natural border is the Indus in the East and the Amu Darya in the North, so yes.
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>>121349134
>>121349161
And the supply limit there is ass because mountains and deserts. Even so, should I do it right now? I'm not the most jingoistic of the players desu, I find developing my shithole far more entertaining
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>>121348147
Howd you form it but gain 40 infamy? is that in HPM?
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>>121349337
If you attack then let them move into your land and die in the desert you would probbaly win. A better option would be to take those two indian nations to the southeast. Dont worry afghanistan isnt going anywere. Once you westernize youll become a secondary quickly and great pretty quick as well.
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>>121349420
>Dont worry afghanistan isnt going anywere.
It's getting into the British sphere, they're already cordial with them. But you're right, I think I won't fight them right now
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Afghanistan is called the labour ward of empires for a reason.
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>>121349403
I'm using HPM but I'm not sure it's exclusive to HPM. I think I may have misunderstood the event; it seems that I may be able to do it for less infamy (either 10, 20, or none, I'm not sure yet) as long as I take the decision as Austria and not as Austria-Hungary. It seems this means I don't get cores on Hungarian territory though. I may still be misunderstanding the event files though.
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>tfw want to legitimize this amazing bastard

>tfw can't because then Byzantium and Italy won't unite upon my death and it all will have been in vain.
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Meanwhile, in Europe
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>tfw no rap battle gsg
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>>121350027
>unir des empires
Dégoûtant
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New memes
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>>121350732
As Sun Tzu has said before "Study your enemy so you can marry out of more of your daughters"
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>>121350438
How did this happen?
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>>121349924
Where's the decision? I don't see it as austria in my version of hpm
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>>121350732
Next OP pls use this in the OP instead of the old one

>espionage finally being good
>forts being consistent
>permanent claims
>other minor good changes

Nice.
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>>121350732
>Zone of control is confusing and doesn't work as intended
>finally get off their assas to fix it
>"here's the new free feature, guys"
Paradox, gentlemen.
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>>121350732
I wish they would go back to the old coring system or something like it. The way claims and cores work in EUIV is just silly.
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>>121351018

>espionage finally being good

Except not. I was hyped for what they would do to it but alas, Wiz does it again and ruins everything. It's retarded as fuck that you can only steal technology (read: get extra mana) from advanced countries. Espionage needed a total overhaul and what we get is this piece of shit.
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>>121351114
Getting mana is superb as EU4 is all about mana. And you can also assist colonial nations in getting independent. I think that's okay.

It'd be good to have more shit along the lines of the existing ideas, where you actually espionage people but it's good and useful and fun, but at least now it has a use .
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>>121351001
Look in the event files of the mod under GreaterGermany.txt
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>>121351196

Don't forget that these two new actions will probably work with the current system: i.e. you get discovered doing covert actions 1 month after you start and can't do it again for 5 years.

Bravo, Wiz.
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>>121351241
If you get discoverd you can just send them out right away. At least, that's the way it was the one and only time I took espionage like a year ago or more.
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hey anons i got a question for ck2, i opened it in another thread too but fuck it.

>I plan to start as Dioclea or Rashka and then unify all Slavic lands souih of dabune, conquer greece, conquer Constantinople and make the Serbian Empire grab the Imperial throne.

how should i do it, at which start?

Should i stay Slavic pagan or convert to Orthodoxy for this?
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>>121351241
>>121350732
>Study someones tech
>Now you can take and core more provinces from other people
top wew

Should've just made it an extra % discount depending on how many techs they are ahead
5%/tech level
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>>121351290

Now it works like I described. You get discovered and can't do it again for 5 years.
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>>121351323
Well that's fucking terrible. There should be a defence offence slider or some shit.
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>>121351319
and i want to start as low as a cunt and get my dynastic claws on the throne.

Any tips, ideas?
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>>121351071
Coring should just related to province autonomy and overextension. It is frustrating to see mechanics in the game that should naturally come together and then everything just gets shit on with manna.
>>
HPM, why doesn't Zulu get South African cores even when the UK conqueres it, but Lesotho and Swazi does?
Also, when will you start working on the Triple Alliance war? Paraguay needs to become OP in case they win desu
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>>121351001
Disregard my other post. Open your console and type in event 31510 aus. That will fire the event and allow you to view the various choices available.
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>>121351494
>thinking Paraguay will be able to beat Argentina in the final version of Railroad Simulator 2k17
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>>121350732
>permanent claims

Top noice
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OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK PLEASE DON'T REVOLT I JUST NEED 15% MORE CIV PROGRESS, JUST A THOUSAND MORE RPS

>>121350924
Not sure, haven't been paying attention to Europe
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>hold elections
>come out with about 70% of the total population having a pro military stance
>the elected party has an anti military one
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>>121336598
>>121337351
>>121344483
>>121348434
PLEASE TELL ME WHATS WRONG
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>>121350438
>>121351849
Wew lad you won't stand a chance against Russia in this playthrough
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>>121351849
Only 39 will revolt at first and they'll all be split in 9k or so stacks, you'll have more than enough time to finish westernizing.
1.54m rebels out of a 1.67m pops country os crazy though
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>>121350732
>send spies to siphon mana reserves
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>>121351998
>elder kings
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New question lads: If I form Grossdeutschland (including all of Austria's non-German territories) in approximately 1851, and doing so puts me over the infamy limit, will it be feasible for me to win the ensuing containment wars?
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>>121350732
>improved espionage
Finally
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>>121352524

You mean the 40 infamy option to annex everything, right? Just pick the 25 infamy one (release german countries before enacting the decision so you have 0 infamy). No point in having filthy balkan and magyar shit in your country.
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Which is better?

Better Looking Garbs?
or
CPR+?
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>>121352919

BLG.

CPR is full of potato faces.
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>>121351943
what are you, a single-issue voter?
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>>121351778
get a load of this revanchist
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yeah baby
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>>121352919
CPR+ is in the HIP installer if it was no good they would put Garbs in instead you guys. Use CPR the faces look "harder" and more "gritty" than Garbs. Why is this even a question folks? Fuck off. CPR+ has hundreds of hours of work being put into making it perfect. It will always be compatible with HIP, no worries. Pic related, perfection, you can all agree.
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>Be old man king
>suddenly i want to run to increase my fighting ability
>I become Strong at the age of 50

Feels gud
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>>121353323
put your trip back on blg
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>>121267463
kebab pls leave
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>>121353323
The fuck is this autism rant?
>>
>ck2
>brother unconditionally hate each other and will murder, plot and raise soldiers to usurp their brothers' titles
bravo paradox, unless content, all my siblings either end up as adventurers, plotters or members of a faction
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>>121353456
As with everything CK2, there's a mod for that. Or DLC of course, you can make your brothers love you Way of Life features.
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>>121353456
>not imprisoning all your sons except your heir right before your death
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>>121353239
Your landings in France finally worked eh
>>
http://atwar-game.com/games/?newlink=9663839254

Online /gsg/

pass: his
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>>121353642
>Do this when im 60

>Live til im 80

gg
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New thread
>>121354167
>>121354167
>>121354167
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>>121353813
That they did my friend
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>>121354262
Show us the front lad
>>
Proper thread
>>121355009
>>121355009
>>121355009
>>121355009
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>>121355031
t. Butthurt "reminder to report abd ignore shitposting" guy
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So close yet a hundred points so far from being a GP. Now, I'm annexing Bahrain because I need more ports.

>>121352164
Haha, suck it, I took Turkmenia from the Russia. The UK obviously did most of the hard work, I was lucky I managed to do it desu. I'll be attacking them later when I invest in my army

>>121352267
Lucky for me, they didn't revolt and I was able to pass a unciv reform and westernize quickly.
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>>121322262
Fuck off Rob
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