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Bannerlord never edition.

(Looted) thread: >>120735605

READ THE PASTEBIN BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS.

NEW BLOG AND BANNERLORD VIDEOS:
https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTbaWgLjN6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpkrdMAyCmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w66nHR7GTF4

PASTEBIN: http://pastebin.com/9TMsKr2a
M&B Wiki with pretty much all the info you need: http://mountandblade.wikia.com/wiki/Mount_and_Blade_Wiki

Noob guide: http://imgur.com/a/FMAqV

M&B VERSION ARCHIVES
>ftp://ftp.taleworlds.com/

>How to implement upstab, 1h upstab, crouching, pike bracing
>USE THIS ONE, ONE IN PASTEBIN IS OUTDATED
http://pastebin.com/b8KTnB9f

>/mbg/ Steamgroup
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/mountandbladevg

Module Flavor(s) of the Sometimes and Recommendations:
>Swedish Mayonnaise
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=211788.0
>Warwolf
https://mega.co.nz/#!lw0nkThD!Fi1am6YqNGOuWE93ZDzoNiqxqDukFkpRuJzIeuyy9-c
>Warphilia
https://mega.co.nz/#!tEAmwZYS!ZL8IQAvQaM3SE7aubY6TuvVtFhLBZBJI7X3icE4fsT4
>Sayazn - 2.0 out now! NOW WITH ADDED DISAPPOINTMENT
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,325987.0.html

Module system decompiler and PoP/ACoK/1257 AD/CIA source files - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ucsmvc35ypgz5r8/AAAgGaMWKrD15iH60Mbr8Yyua?dl=0
Warband Co-op Mod - http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,322770.0.html
Anon's modded Diplomacy - http://www.mediafire.com/download/7ex3306kg24jjd9/Diplomacy+Modded.7z
Anon's modded Tocan's Calradia - http://www.mediafire.com/download/k597985766ynf8b/Way+of+the+Sword.7z
Anon's Modded 1257 - http://www.mediafire.com/download/v5kz3me75lmgacp/1257AD_modded.7z
Tweakbro's Warsword - https://mega.nz/#!pA5ETB7D!v3FOXElTq-hDToBG6QVtAzeLgO-saWafMlQYP8XFJVE
Flails, upstab, crouching and more for Warsword and Tweakbro's Warsword -
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9k8bkyfmgfuocwc/Warsword+Flails%2C+Upstab%2C+Crouching+and+more.7z
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>>121250020
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The other one has relevant OP
>>121250020
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>Get married in VC
>Wife keeps literally keking me with random lords
>No option to confront her or any of the lords about it

What the fug
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>>121250191
So, this one's newer?
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>>121250215
By one minute.
Announcement made 1 sec appart on the old thread.
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>>121250210
Vikings are known keks, wife sharing was common among them.
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>>121250210
hahahaha
>play warsword
>courting bitches left and right
>only doing it so I can stop them getting married and keking everyone

>>121250291
early thread gets the morning posters
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>>121250321
Eh, fine to me
I'll repost the relevant infos.
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>>121250304

It keeps tanking my relationship with her by 20 points every time she does it, and 40 points with whichever lord's hotdog she's funneling. She's fucked half of Ireland already, I'm ready to get the option to just have her head cut off already.
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>>121250423
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>>121250463
I thought I was on /hgg/ NTR Central for a moment.
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>>121250546
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYCgZqMP2Bc
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>>121250689
I think that guys full of shit
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>>121250708
Please do a better translation or fuck right off.
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>>121250620

It really is that ridiculous. I left my fort to go to a city not even a day away and I get a message popping up saying she fucked some guy while I was gone, it's like once a week with this shit, I could probably set my clock to it. Oh, weekly expense reports are in, my wife probably fucked someone.

She's on a remote island for god's sake
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>>121251070
>Another person
Him ?
>>121046825
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>>121251070
>Fuck me what's wrong with you bitch boy, mommy shit in your cereal this morning?
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>>121251165
No, this guy
>>121250423
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>>121251657
The translations >>121250689 and >>121046825 are of a interview of someone from the magazine who played the game (probably the one who wrote the article)
>>121250423 is a translation of the magazine and the guy said he has 4 pages left to translate.
Its not contradictory
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>>121251070
autism
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Is it harder to do a rebellion if I'm already a vassal of the guy I want to overthrow?
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>>121255525
Uuh, how else do you intend to rebel ?
You can't rebel without being a vassal.
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What kind of banner will you create with Bannerlord's banner editor f_am ?
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Guys I fucked and lost 3 companions to bandits and enemy lords(I got captured ad then run alone).
What happened to them?
Can I find them somewhere or they just sit in the dungeon somewhere o they re lost?
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>>121256014
Something with a dragon or a griffon.
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>>121256132
ask a traveler in a tavern they will tell you for a fee.
where they went most likely in some town's tavern but they MAY be in some ones dungeon
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>>121256318
Thanks. I wondered if I should start a new game.
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>>121250423
>>121250546
Update
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>>121258341
>end of 2016

kill me now
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>>121250463

Is she a redhead by any chance?
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>>121258605

I don't know she's always wearing this ridiculous hood. Her father's super light blonde though
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>>121258763
Kill the bitch.
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>>121259612

It's not an option. Even shooting her in the face with a crossbow just goes "thwok" and nothing happens. I'm being keked by this game and there's nothing at all I can do about it. Thanks VC.
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>>121259865
>It's not an option.
Bravo Brytenwalda team.
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>>121260652

I can't even go after the men she's fucking. I tracked one of them down and it's just the standard options for interacting with another lord

I'm just left wondering why this is even here, like some faggot dev with an NTR fetish decided to force his shit on everyone who plays the game
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>>121259865
keked for life lmao
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>>121261049
Prep the boar fuccboi
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>>121261049
>I'm just left wondering why this is even here, like some faggot dev with an NTR fetish decided to force his shit on everyone who plays the game
I think the devs decided to force a lot of their shit on everyone.
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>>121261238

I actually got that "dilemma" like a hour ago. I'm familiar with the story but I really thought the game was just going to trick me and actually cut the baby in half as a big "fuck you", so I reasoned that the child would live a better life with the rich woman which would make the poor woman happy anyway in the event it was actually hers, make the child happy by not growing up to be a starving peasant, and even help the poor woman out by not having another mouth to feed when she can obviously barely feed herself.

The town ended up pissed off at me for showing favoritism to the rich.

Why does this game keep kicking you in the fucking balls no matter what you do
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>>121261238
t-that's some lewd options
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>>121261739
I don't get why there isn't an option to just throw the baby to the poor woman and let the rich woman go.
If every culture penalized lying there would'nt be any point to lawyers no ?
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>>121258341
>>121250423
>Build your own castle
>Train your own units
I wonder if the castle must be linked to a specific fief to prevent spamming.

And I hope "train your own units" means train your own CUSTOM units.

>>121258479
I was expecting at least 2017, so this is good news for me. Yeah right, its going to be delayed again.
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>>121261687
>Why does this game keep kicking you in the fucking balls no matter what you do
autistic devs. I understand that they decided to treat morale likea big thing in gameplay and that's ok with me. It actually makes sense instead of just force feeding your soldiers with a balanced diet.
But jesus christ why do I need to get random morale drops on the overworld map with no reason.
I litterally get the message "your party lost x morale"
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>>121261238
>give the poor woman to your men

Does that mean what I think it does? Why can't I give the rich woman to my men?
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>>121258341
>end of 2016
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>>121261982

>Doing some trading runs to generate cash
>Only crew is sailors so I can outrun raiders and vikings
>Made this same trip a hundred times
>Your troops feel uneasy about crossing the sea
>Sailing so close to shore the boat is actually clipping with the terrain
>Uneasy about crossing the sea
>BOATING UP A FUCKING RIVER
>UNEASY ABOUT CROSSING THE SEA
>MUTINY

GOD DAMN
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>>121261939
>I wonder if the castle must be linked to a specific fief to prevent spamming.
nah m8 you have 4 places where you can build anything (some ressources will only be available in some villages)
So yeah you can spam castles. at the cost of a production field
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>>121261238
Eh, that's not some fetish shit. That's right out of the Torah/Bible/Quran.
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>>121262341
>Eh, that's not some fetish shit. That's right out of the Torah/Bible/Quran.
the gang raoe thing not the baby thing genius.
And we already baited this at lenght. thanks.
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>>121262281

give me more!
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>>121262281
jesuschrist

jesuschrist

I wish I was rich enough to fund these turks
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>>121262428
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>>121262419
Oh well, the Bible has plenty of gang rape.

I think Lot tried to convince a bunch of homosexuals to stop trying to hit on a couple of male angels and instead gangbang his daughters.

Goddamn, the fucking Bible was written by a bunch of retarded basement dwelling autistic hentai freaks.
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Evening lads, I had no idea this game had a general so I apologise if I sound like a pleb. Is 1257 any good? I'm getting a bit bored of floris.
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>>121262683
The Hebrews were a strange bunch.
>>121262586
More
>>121262428
Really you should watch the videos that are in OP and read the Blog
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>>121263176
1257 is good.

It's very historical though (read BORING). But a boring mod can still be very good.
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>>121263419
All right sound, I'll give it a go. Also am I just shit or do cavalry units get tarpited to easily to be useful?
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jesus fuck does this guy sounds fun.
I remember he was the one complaining about the ability to build castles in villages.
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>>121264814

Naruto autism in full effect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8xoTBZrzko
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>>121264814
>like Dynasty warriors.
"No".
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>>121264814
He was also crying about village upgrades.

"Hurr durr but den evry villuge will b castle and u cann not recruit soldurs anymor!?!?!"
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>>121266184
>>121264814
>>121265151
i hate anime
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All free men shall be united under the Khan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc43pzGwjPM
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>>121266184
>"Hurr durr but den evry villuge will b castle and u cann not recruit soldurs anymor!?!?!"
Yes he pretty much whined like that
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>>121250015
So what helmets do we know are going to be in Bannerlord? Great Helms? Italo-Norman faceplates? Transitional helms?
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>>121267170
>wang wong wang wong wang wong

It's pretty cool they made a song about Ghenghis' Khan's dick.
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>>121267670
Great helms, faceplates, and generic dark ages stuff.

I guess the Great helms are for the Empire, they seem to have some pretty "far future" anachronistic weapons and armour.
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>>121250689
That is the most turkish video I've seen desu
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>>121267841

>anachronistic
>impying he's an expert on the Calradian history of arms
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>>121267709
There should be more desu that guys dick did so much work that 5% of every male on the world is related to him.
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At this rate, M&B2 might come out sooner than me learning to code and making a 2D version!
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>>121267670
No great helms seen so far though.
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Best place to start?
Tried Swadia last time but their King was a dickhead.
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>>121271076
Swadia IS the best place to start.

Easiest bandits and easy trading (get goods in non-Swadian lands, hop the border and sell it in Swadian cities).
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>>121271076
>>121271262
The easiest bandits in Native are the mountain ones I find
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>>121271076
Nords is easiest if you want your own kingdom later on as nord huscarls are the strongest infantry so you could siege castles without effort.
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>>121262270
Get ale/whores/rest at a tavern and never worry about morale again
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on the one hand, i find playing as a vassal much less stressful and easy. on the other hand, not being independent hurts my pride a little bit, and it wouldn't be THAT bad if not EVERY SINGLE one of the kings were usurpers. wat do?
>inb4 help a claimant
if i have to fight an entire nation, i might aswell form my own kingdom
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>>121271538
>/whores/rest at a tavern
these are expensive goyim..
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>>121271653
Helping claimants is a great way to reduce the power of the factions while keeping the status quo.
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>>121271885
Buff tournament gold with tweakmb then
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How do you think Bannerlord's modding system will work?

Will they keep the modules around, or will they go for something that's a bit more "modular" (geddit? "modular" 'modules'?) like Bethesda does?
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>>121271947
but don't i automatically become their vassal? also, if i help i claimant, i assume that i only have my own troops. even at mid-late game, leadership restrictions and morale means that you will have around 100-120 troops. that's usually not enough to both take a castle and repel subsequent attacks.
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Guys what is the best mod if you look only at features ?
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>>121272478
IIRC you can always quit being a vassal.

The political hit you take from quitting being a vassal is like a drop of water on a red hot iron, so you can just quit being a vassal without giving a fuck.
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>>121272779
really? i always assumed that it would have great consequences like reduing honor, renown and relations and that you shouldnt really do it.
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>>121273287
Since you're putting a king on a throne like 6 times, giving up your vassalship doesn't mean shit.
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>>121273287
The relation loss you get is with the monarch the rest stays the same
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if i play with a female character and marry a noble, do i get full access to his armies and fiefs? what does he get to control?

also, other than being able to host feasts and right to rule, what's the point of marrying as a male? do i get an alliance with the bride's family?
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why is this allowed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktmXIHxoqpQ
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>>121272498
tocan's i guess?
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>>121277325
>doesn't get ended by projectiles
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>>121277325
Did he remove all thrown weapons from the game or some shit?
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>>121277325
>that framerate
christ
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Where is the OP image from
did we get new screenshots
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>>121281078
An old set from a leak
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>>121281498
Post more
I need this
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>>121281672
Here somes
http://imgur.com/a/RxNJB
Will post the ones that aren't init
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>>121281887
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>>121282073
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>>121281887
>get sieged by khergits
>expect a shitload of archers with a siege tower
>instead, they're already on the wall
>with horses
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>>121282650
We never heard of the leaker again btw.
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>>121282947
They're probably drinking out of his skull
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>>121282947
That's all I have.
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>>121283169
Or they sold him to Ramun.

He's probably slaving away on a slave farm in Baleon, waiting for harvesting season.
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>>121277325
>It's over Anakin! I have the high ground!
>WHAT'S THIS THING EH
>Don't try it!
>LESS TALKING, MORE RAIDING
>You were the chosen one! It was said you would destroy the sith, not join them! Bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness!
>AWAY WITH YOU VILE BEGGAR
>You were my brother Anakin! I loved you!
>OUT FOR A STROLL ARE WE
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>>121283616
kek'd hard
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>>121283616
Oh fuck, saved.
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>>121283616
>no "I might have MEMED a bit too far in some places"

For fucks sake.
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>>121283616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-ThECHhmQs
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Well boys, I guess this is it. Squidfuckers are coming for me. At least now I can stop playing this shitty mod tho amirite?
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>>121288005
Thanks. Now whenever I read GoT, or watch GoT, I can't stop seeing the Boltons as Splatoon squiddies.
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>>121288005
You hold the walls! You should be able to kill four men for every one you lose if you fight well and true. I have faith.
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>>121288005
seen bigger desu lad
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>>121289697
The retainers are fucking strong thoug I started my kingdom with those motherfuckers and now I own half of weteros
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>>121291316
What IaF mod is that?
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>>121291991
>IaF
what
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>>121292112
Ice and Fire
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>>121291991
its AD 1257
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>>121270026
that's not true though

>>121267670
fair few of these concept arts i've spotted
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>>121294606
I really hope they add warmasks
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>>121296553
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>Writing up factions for a wintery mod
>cant think of good name for first tier ranged troop other than hunter
pls help
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>>121296749
>>121296553
I'm having flashbacks to Stronghold.
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>>121296749
2 kniggas with the full chain have some bretty cool helmets
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>>121296848
watchman?
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>>121296940
Basically already using that for the early melee troops
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>>121297570
maybe border watch?
also you spelt arbalester wrong
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Bannerlord late 2016?
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>>121297570
Oh right, I also need to think of a better name than Master Swordsmen. maybe some sort of order or something? Lore is these guys prize swordsmanship, all the sword guys are "outside" of the professional army while the rankers and stuff are in it. Having them with some sort of cool name would be good i think

>>121297742
I like that, thanks.
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>>121297836
>Oh right, I also need to think of a better name than Master Swordsmen. maybe some sort of order or something? Lore is these guys prize swordsmanship, all the sword guys are "outside" of the professional army while the rankers and stuff are in it. Having them with some sort of cool name would be good i think
if they're 2h then Landsknecht
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>>121297831
Autumn, 2016.
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>>121297963
Im really trying not to just do a "copy" of existing things
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>>121297742
>spelt
>not spelled
>arbalester
>not arbalestier

regardless of whether or not certain words can have multiple spellings you're still a faggot
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>>121298220
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arbalester
:^)
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>>121298134
i guess it depends on the universe you're doing these in
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>>121298612
Low fantasy, somewhat nordic thing. Kingdom of Bartoly is to the south however and are a bit more French/English. I dont even know if i'd call it fantasy, but its very early in development so idk
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>>121298354
this is some gay shit desu
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>>121299303
i mean you could just use real life knightly orders if you wanted to, like the knights of saint thomas were a pretty famous english knightly order, you had to specifically be an englishman to get in
>>121299338
what the fug
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>>121299682
I think ill go with Heroicis. Its not my favourite, but its less boring than master swordsmen.
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>>121261939
>Wondering about Bannerlord but not reading the blogs that tell you about Bannerlord
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I'm enjoying Floris but it crashes every 30-45 min. I auto save a lot so I haven't lost anything but it's just jarring and hard to play in long sessions. As I understand it, it uses new textures, would using native textures help the crashes?
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>>121269914
Their prediction is END of 2016 and that comes with several disclaimers that it isn't set by any means and they'll only actually release when Armagan is happy. 2017 seems pretty likely. They're apparently not very good at project management.
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>>121272498
Silverstag lad.
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>>121295282
Tell me about Yaroglek.
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is it true that the 6 kings of calradia have significantly different personalities and behaviours? if so, which one is the most based to join?
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>>121305058
Not really.

Dont join Harlaus because they always die
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>>121305058
i actually really like sultan hakim, he's furtive and will often give you missions to get the upper hand on the enemy

its why in every playthrough even if im not playing the sarranids they seem to get huge, the sultan is one of the more driven rulers compared to buttermaster or horsefucker

he also barely hosts feasts which is nice because it stops me from having to worry about constantly running around to circle jerk with other lords
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>>121303432
LOTTA LOYALTY FOR A HIRED BLADE
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Is this easy enough to figure out? Bogi is basically archer, and spjot is spear, so i feel like it wouldnt take too long to get used to these and there are enough patterns that people wont always be wondering what something is.
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>>121307427
>page 6
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KOOFER BUMP
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>>121308310
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>>121308467
page 10...
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>>121311450
Anybody excited for Full Invasion: Amber?
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how to take screenshots? also, is there any decent 3 kingdoms mod out yet?
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>>121313717
I WANT TO HELP LIU BEI RESTORE THE MIGHTY HAN
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dead general
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>>121314698
no u
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>>121314965
ded
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>tfw finally got a pollaxe and some armor upgrades
got this tabar-shispar too, dunno whether to dump it for something more knightly but it's just so useful
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who here /luck/
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can i fufill my white guilt fantasy of being an apache and raiding caravans all day long in that one old west mod
has it been ported to warband or is there still only gabrilduros shitty version
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>>121321108

original m&b only senpai
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>>121321108
I managed to port it to Warband via the method in the pastebin, but it crashes every time I select a cavalry troop. Also hair clips through hats and shotguns don't work properly.
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>>121250423
>"...It is clear from her body that she trained for fights like this..."
Muscle sliders confirmed
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>>121250210
Can you at least mitigate this by having obscenely high relations with your wife before marriage? Otherwise VC is even worse than I joking portray it as.
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>>121323284

No. It would seem the VC devs really love railroading, as evidenced by the fact that half the kingdom is running a train on my wife.
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>>121263419
How's it boring? 1257ad has the best battles of most mods as the AI knows how to use formations.
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>>121263419
>history is boring
literal shit taste
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>>121323921
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>>121322913

This guy knows what's up
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>>121325509
It is always nice to be reminded there are other gentlemen of such refined tastes on this board.
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How do i change the recruits you get from a village?
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>>121326815

explain
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>>121326870
he wants to know if its possible to change something like a khergit village conquered by swadians to a swadian village i imagine
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>>121327103
>>121326870

Editing Floris troop trees, accidentally changed Swadian peasant instead of I2 Swadian peasant, so now I cant recruit my custom troops. Spent hours making these troop trees, dont want to rewrite them. Id just like to make it so you recruit what is now Bartoly Levies
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>>121327352
shit i was far off

well i'm near clinically retarded so i cant help sorry man
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>>121326815
i think you need source code to do that
and tbqh if you're modding i'd recommend doing diplomacy as a base instead, floris is a clusterfuck
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>>121327695
Its ok, friend.

>>121327773
I was thinking about it but then id have to go through all the crap of adding in all these items and graphic packs myself and what not
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>>121327921
>I was thinking about it but then id have to go through all the crap of adding in all these items and graphic packs myself and what not
doesn't take long, it's just copying and pasting
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this battle was fucking ptsd inducing
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>>121328531
Brodoks pro.
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>>121328531
you better invest in rhodok spearmen, like 80% of any sarranid warband/army are horsemen ranging from super-light to tank and both of those and everything in between will fuck your shit up
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>>121330441
>>121328531
>not using heavy swadian cav to kill the light cav
>ever using rhodork shit
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>>121330716
>YOU MUST LE MIN MAX EVERY TIME
>NO FUN ALLOWED NO THEMATIC ARMIES ALLOWED NO ROLEPLAYING ALLOWED
>SWADIAN KNIGHTS RHODOK CROSSBOWMEN NORD HUSCARLS ONLY YOU'RE TRIGGERING MY AUTISM AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Fuck off.
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>>121331136
where did i ever say you should use any thing other then swadian heavy cav
get that morning star out of ur ass m8 you look a bit butt blasted
Posted from my Heavy Charger
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>>121331136
this

we've all been playing the game for fucking ever, we know swadian knights are good already, we don't need some dark souls-tier shitter meming up the start of every troop related conversation with that shit, even if it was supposed to be ironic or a joke it wasn't funny
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>>121331136

>not going pure crossbows
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>>121330234
>>121330441
>>121330716
but it isn't native, it's modded tocan's
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Really ready to burn this fucking hag at the stake
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>>121334235
So do husbands cheat on their wives as well? Or do husbands prove once again their superiority to pig disgusting wives?
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>>121335528

I doubt it. From what I've seen they only sleep with other lords, and since there are no fem lords I don't know who they'd fuck. I don't think any of them are homosex
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>>121331136
Know need to sperg out so hard Autismus Maximus.
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>>121335785
I remember seeing those female ham beasts in VC. Why would you ever get married when they are; somehow, even worse than Native Warband wives?
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>>121336787

Her dad is a complete bro
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>>121336787

this desu senpai baka

also, I noticed that this sky has airplanes
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>>121337497
Should have just become the father's fuckboi then m8.
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>>121303067
Silverstag a shit. Fucktards need to hurry up and fix the Rhodok troop tree.
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>>121325061
Because it's focussed on the most aesthetically boring period in history. At least in the early and late middle ages you had a shitton diversity in armours and weapons. 1257AD is just fucking boring shite, everyone uses the same fucking weapons and troops.
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>>121331136
Actually, Swadian Knights are fucking horrible for minmaxing.

They're expensive, and as soon as their horse goes down they're dead.
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>>121339427
Probably actually would be better than being the realm's most notorious kek, married to a cow that somehow manages to be the kingdom bicycle desu.
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>>121340254
>They're expensive

Honestly doesn't mean shit in Native, it's so easy to be obscenely rich.

>as soon as their horse goes down they're dead

They barely ever lose their horses because the horses are better armoured than most of the AI army soldiers and even if they do lose them, they're pretty much Swadian Sergeants.

No but for real though, Swadian Knights aren't that great, it's just that an army of literally any type of elite soldiers will steamroll everything on the map with no effort required because all the AI armies are full of fodder despite it being obscenely easy to upgrade your troops all the way and fund them. It's just easier to steamroll the entire map with heavy cav because you can F1+F3 and have it over in seconds instead of waiting longer for infantry or archers to do the same job. If you were battling against other players that bothered to use tactics and elite troops and more expensive troops meant smaller army, any pure Swadian Knight parties would get humiliatingly crushed.
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>>121325509
Do you take requests?
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>>121343302
If you want to steamroll with elites, might as well just run with an army of only Rhodok Sharpshooters. They're as effective in melee as the elite infantry of every faction except the Nords, and while their armour is shit, that gets alleviated thanks to their board shields.

Downside is the lack of a speed bonus on the map, but I always tag Nord Huscarls, Rhodok Sergeants and Sharpshooters as "mounted" in Morgh's to simulate that they have a horse for travel that they don't use in battle.
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>>121343302
Talking about lord armies, I do hope that the inclusion of heroes in lord armies will level the odds a bit.

I also wonder how many heroes there will be in the game... will lords hire heroes from the same pool we hire from, or will lords have their own heroes to hire from?
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>>121343894
>I also wonder how many heroes there will be in the game...
60.
Said multiple times already. Also confirmed in the recent magazine
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>>121344859
Will they still have conflicts among each other? Like in M&B and Warband?
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>>121345062
Probably, but modders will quickly make it possible to turn off if the option isn't built into Native by default.

>>121343894
In terms of things like pathfinding, surgery and tactics I hope it will too, but mainly their army composition should match what the player can easily maintain. Whether it's made harder for the player to get elites or the lords just roll with more of them, either way it shouldn't be all Vlandian Knights vs filthy peasants with sticks and a few top tiers that get swarmed helplessly.
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>>121349303
Well, I think that when you have a pool of 60 heroes, it'll be a lot easier to get a functional team of heroes together.

The main problem with hero complaints is that you're stuck running either group A or group B, where the only variation is whether you pick subgroup 1 or 2.
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>>121289526
You're welcome anon. What does /mbg/ think of ASoIAF anyway? I can't wait for Winds of Winter personally.

/lit/ likes to bully me because it's run of the mill low-grade fantasy literature but eh "fuck you i liked it"-mentality is still strong

>>121291492
Veteran + normal retainers are crazy strong, yeah, but the AI is bumfuck retarded and upgrade them to Elite Retainers who don't have shields. I chose 150 archers to man the walls and 30 Heavy Knights to hold the breach, so without shields they got torn to shreds while climbing the siege tower. By the time they finally broke through they were down to recruits and shit, so it was smooth sailing for the rest of the knights who spawned in when my archers got butchered.

I thought I was the only one in /mbg/ who didn't hate ACOK. I agree Cozur is a cunt, but his attention to detail is crazy. There are so many neat little references to the book.

>>121291316
At least you could leave, my g. Holy fuck that HAS to be a marshalled force though, r-right?
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can i host feasts as a grill?
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>>121349075
TEN
E
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>>121340156
>being this histoically illiterate
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>>121353098
I can't wait for Winds of Winter too.

It depresses me greatly that even if the fat man doesn't eat himself to death before aDoS, the ending is guaranteed to be spoiled by GoT which is turning into absolute fucking garbage as it's taken over by more and more D&D OC.
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>>121356106
>implying im talking about the actual historical period

I'm talking about the mod, you giant fucking retarded semen guzzling smegma addicted cumdumpster manslut.
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>>121356262
I can't see how the fat man even CAN end the series without making it feel like complete and utter bullshit. I feel like there is no way for the world not to end because he's set up this scenario where literally no one with any major fighting force is left, and he describes the last long night as an end of the world scenario even when there were armies in tip-top shape. Without some serious fanfiction tier plot armor for every important character, shit is seriously fucked. Either that or he just says fuck it and kills everyone ever, which is looking more and more like the best option to me, completely dissatisfying as it would be.
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>>121353098
I do always keep a few elite in my armies even without a shield they rek real shit in melee battles
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>>121258341
Wake up kniggas.
Some screenshots from the magazine
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>>121357503
Well the dragons are pretty fucking OP. Could be as simple as the white walkers raping half of Westeros before Dany FINALLY FUCKING LEAVES MEREEN and destroys them all.
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>>121357503
Best would be a white walker win with the surviving characters migrating to essos but I'm sure dany will save the day with her dragons and become queen of both continents or some shit or like you said plot armor will be everywhere
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>>121357640
Second and last.
Thanks to Bloc on the forums btw.
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>>121357503
>>121357852
Also they may have had armies in tip top shape at the start of the Long Night, but they were utterly decimated before figuring out what weapons actually work against the white walkers. Up until then it wasn't a war, it was a slaughter. This time they know ahead of time what to use, they just need everybody South of the wall to start taking it seriously.
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>>121357640
>hit google search to see if there's higher reso like I always do
>gives me bunch of Syrian conflict images
kjeh
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>>121358520
Unfortunately the guy doesn't want to realease higher res but instead wants people to buy the magazine.
I know I ain't ordering a magazine from fucking turkey. And there's no chance to find it in stores near me.
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>>121358064
Haven't most of those been forgotten, and dragon glass basically disappeared though? With dragonsteel being so limited it still seems like the south can't do much against the wights or the white walkers, as we saw at the fist of the first men. Fire arrows do fuck all.


>>121357852
>>121357869
I will be so fucking pissed if he just says loldragons and crowns Dany. Would feel like a huge copout. The prophecy of who will save the world even specifies that a "he" grabs the sword and turns the battle around, so yeah.

Isn't the Long Night a global event, by the way? Azor Ahai was from Asshailast time, so it must be
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>>121356278
>can't fix mods himself
lmao tbqh
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>>121359437
Are you fucking kidding me?

The prophesy being a load of fucking retarded shit would be great.

Too many fantasy run around with fucking retarded prophesy shit.
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>>121360262
Prophecies are a retarded and lazy piece of shit plot device, I agree. Still, the dude wrote it so I can't see a way to go about it without retconning the whole thing. Maybe that'd be the best option though.
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Page 9
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>>121366217

Thanks big ben
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This man >>121367832 is your ennemy.
He wants the thread to die.
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>>121368201
>Page 7
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So, if the player and lords have to play over generations, what about the heroes?
Do they age and die? If they go without leaving kids, does a new one appear in the world?
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>>121359437
>dragon glass basically disappeared though?
It's literally obsidian. We still have volcanoes.
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>>121369443
>our fathers won the throne together, help me keep it
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>>121369704
Dis my jam
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>>121353098
Don't like it at all. It feels a lot like GRRM's own magical realm with all the poorly written rape scenes. It doesn't help either that GRRM doesn't even have prose to speak of.
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>>121353098
yea it was a marshalled force they where trying to siege a castle from the sea
It worked
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>>121353098
I haven't read a single (modern) fantasy book since I finished secondary education.

Which is like 9 years ago?

The only 'fantasy' I read these days is old classic shit, like Lovecraft, Howard and Tolkien.

Frankly I've completely forgot what ASoIAF is about aside from that the Lannisters are a bunch of scheming edgelords.
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>>121297570
I like "bowman." They're men with bows but not skilled enough to be called archers. Also has alliterative appeal with Bartley.
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How do I git gud with cavalry /mbg/? I try to use them as skirmishers but they seem to get destroyed really easily.
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>>121377804
if its knigger cavalry try to keep it away from the other cavalry and things like archers, crossbows, angry peasants with pointy sticks etc.
If its swadian cavalry just tell it to charge and watch it kill every thing
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>>121377804
Wait for your infantry to clash with the enemy if you're having those kinds of issues.
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>>121374496
>poorly written rape scenes

I can't really think of any graphically depicted rape scenes in the book desu. Any examples? I'm not defending, I promise, I just want to know.

>>121369584
True, but excavating for obsidian during medieval times would be a bitch and they don't really know where to look, only the forest midgets knew that. And they can't make dragonsteel either because Valyria is still dead as balls.

>>121376625
It's actually pretty good man, although the part about the Lannisters being self-insert edgelords sometimes is true. You should know what you're getting into though, it's a quick fix of fantasy and nothing more. It's fun, not world changing and that's cool by me. Character development is the best part of the books by far, the rest is kind of meh.

>>121377804
Your cavalry should never stay engaged with enemy infantry for long once they've charged, they get singled out and surrounded easily. Try to charge > retreat > charge > retreat, and try to flank if you've a large infantry force who can attack up front while horses go around.
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>>121380098
No I just meant the rape scenes and how prevalent they are. The poorly written part extends to the whole books- GRRM has worse prose and reads more dry than Tolkien.
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>>121380098
>book desu

that was unintentional i swear
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>>121380315
BAKA DESU senpai
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>>121380313
I read the translation in my language and the guy who does it has crazy good flow so I couldn't really say.

Are you talking about the show my man? There are no rapes of main characters I can think of in the books, and those which happen to minor characters or background people are never described. They talk of people being raped during the wars but it's never actually "shown" as far as I know. I'm not trying to change your mind, but that specific thing isn't really true.
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>>121380695
What translation do you read in your language then? It's probably censored. A lot.
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>>121381023
Not that guy but which rapes?
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>>121386356
the rape of literature as a medium as you read that dreck
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>>121386604
I really enjoyed reading the books. Yes, they were dry and I can understand people finding them a slog, but I appreciated them for the qualities they had.
It's mostly because of my history with tabletop RPGs.
The amount of character he fits into about damn everything was fantastic to me, and I also enjoyed his worldbuilding. Some of the chapters felt extraneous, and other scenes dragged on, but on the whole the series scratched an itch nothing else could while I was between tables.
I'm also enough of a autist to actually bother with the appendices.
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>>121381023
answer the fucking question faggot
What rapes were you talking about?
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so i got flails on horseback but i had to use one of the polearm sideswings, so now weapons like the hafted blade can only do attack left and thrust on horseback
i think it's a good enough compromise but idk if most people would want it like this
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The time for feasting has come
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>>121390623
>so now weapons like the hafted blade can only do attack left and thrust on horseback
I don't follow, what's the problem?
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>>121392652
the hafted blade can do left, right, and thrust attacks on horseback usually
i had to replace the right attack animation with a specific one for the flail, so i took the right attack off the hafted blades otherwise it'd look retarded because it'd use the flail animation
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also i was pissing about and managed to get slings working for thrown, i may do them in the future like this
only problem is the horrible projectile delay
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>>121392992
So we have to avoid attacking right or the animation fucks up or the animation is completely removed?
Not like it matters, only mod where you see a lot of polearm action on horseback would be Gekokujo.
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>>121394473
no i just removed the animation flag from hafted blades so they can't attack right on horseback, just left
and flails can only attack right on horseback
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DED
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keks
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>>121398839
fucking hiroshima
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will mountainblade generals survive until the release of Bannerlord?

the general has been slow as fuck lately and they are aiming for a "end of 2016" release
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>>121401804

probably not senpai that's why we gotta make original content
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>>121263214
There better be legionaries with spathas and cataphract horse archer hybrids or I'll have to mod that in.
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>>121401804
sure but i doubt we're going to have much in the way of content
plus if it is coming end of 2016 we might finally get some blogs
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Will bannerlord be able so satisfy my inner byzaboo?
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>>121353098
I think GRRM can't into pacing.
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Do you guys know any good mods I have played acok,ad 1257,VC,PoP .
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>>121398839
Remember, remember, the fifth of November...
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Can anyone recommend me anon's modded diplomacy or modded tocan's calradia? I have to download them to see the changes so I'd rather get an opinion on someone who's played them. I just want vanilla+ without changing the style of vanilla.
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>>121359437
>The prophecy of who will save the world even specifies that a "he" grabs the sword and turns the battle around

Did you miss the chapter where Aemon explains that the prophecies don't truly give a gender to the hero and that that's actually a mistranslation?
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>>121401804
It will. I for one am going to be a lot more active in a couple of weeks time when my uni finishes.
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any mods that lets you b.y.o.s to tournaments? i know that knights of the last battle & 1257 does.
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>>121404164
Silverstag lad.
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>>121405689
the diplomacy one is just diplomacy with more items, and the tocan's one is just tocan's with more weapons and changed troop trees
all of the new items use the native textures and follow the same art style though, but the tocan's one has a lot more items
i do need to make some sort of summary or something but i don't know what to put
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>>121406736
I'll go for the diplomacy one then. Do I have to do anything for freelancer or does it come with the mod?
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>>121406978
it's only 4.3 diplomacy so i don't think it has freelancer
i'd recommend trying both out anyway, i do need to update the diplomacy one for more weapons since it's missing a lot which tocan's has (around 200+ i think)
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>>121334235
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>>121406546
Does it have its iwn world and stuff or is it just gameplay improvements I couldn't find much about the setting on the download page.
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>>121407164

I wish CK2 would nerf the rampant kekoldry
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>>121407686
It's set in Calradia.
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Back again, anyone know how to change the recruits that come from a village?
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>>121407740
I thought they already did.
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I was having so much fun being a soldier for the crusader states. But it all culminated in a 2k vs 1.5k battle between us and the Muslims. It's been two hours and I'm not even half way done. Fuck these horse archers.
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Are there any big mods on the horizon that will help the wait for Butterlord ?(estimates range from late 2016-2017)
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>>121409265
>late 2016
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>>121409390
>>121409265
just shoot me in the fucking face

I won't make it til Bannerlord anyways, just end the suffering now
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>>121408042
Using what? Module system?
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>>121409727
But anon!

Don't you want to play the newest shitPG from Bethesda?
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>>121409265
Well, I've done like half the work on a bunch of different submods that I'll throw together into one big Native expansion type mod when I've got the free time.
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>>121256132
Where are the tit bulges?
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>>121410335
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>>121409921
I really don't
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>>121410335
that's a man
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So does 1257 have weapon modifiers for armor? I'm sitting here whacking this chainmailed guy with my sword and doing no damage. Should I take an axe to the tourneys instead?
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>>121406460
ACOK
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>>121411327
the RCM values in the module.ini are different
so use a piercing or blunt weapon against armor instead
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>>121411025

no its porn, she's a woman below
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>>121256132
>a visored bascinet with lamellar armor and plate cuisses
what the fuck?
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>>121413231
I was about to ask the same thing
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>>121417232
>>121417151
>>121416994
>>121416842
AND PROUD OF IT
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Should I bother with modded 1257 AD or regular?
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>>121417374
pls respond I know one version of 1257 AD is broken shit but not which
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>>121418547
Modded, of course.
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>>121419049
Is it a patch or the full version of 1257AD?
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Does anyone here like Sands of Faith?

I already downloaded it,I'll play it after sleeping a little bit and post my thoughts later to prevent the thread from dying, but I was wondering if anyone here played and enjoyed it.
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>>121419693
it's standalone
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>>121420023
lance or native system?
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>>121420469
lance
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>>121420602
Byzzies, French, or Spanish?
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>>121409265
Outlaws
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>>121420973
Restore Rome
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>>121409265
The next FI2 update
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Kingdom of Bartoly Troop tree coming along well, now i just need to finish the swordsmen branch and the ranged...
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>>121421665
>meme invasion 2
Oh boy I can't wait for more GoT shit and the walking dead 24/7! If we're lucky we can get an occasional LotR map!
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>>121422297
Let me just say the next update is going to.... diversify things... At the very least, everything will feel much cleaner and polished.
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>>121419931
I played it a month or two ago. It was fun for slaying sandniggers in the name of our Holy Lord and the armors/weapons/horses all looked nice but it was fairly barebones as far as content in general goes.

Of course I haven't kept up on updates lately so maybe it's got a lot more content now. Either way it's worth a try.
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>>121422297
>and the walking dead 24/7
did they add the fucking walking dead? what the fuck
>>121422449
are you in the FI2 team?
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>>121422278
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Anyone else have a problem with Floris crashing more often the longer a game goes on? I've tried the expanded and gameplay downloads but they start crashing every 30 minutes.
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>>121422609
Yep. Every time a dev build gets released im more and more impressed with how much we have done.
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>>121422449
Will it still be an unoptimized shit that takes 10 minutes to load?
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>>121423050
It doesnt take so long to load because its not optimized, its because there are so many objects and whatnot to load.
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>>121422991
can you get them to implement upstab, crouching, and different reload for muskets?
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what the fuck is this
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>>121423164
desu lad there's probably as much stuff that should be removed as stuff that should be added
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the memeiest of meme mods
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>>121423474
it's a boulder
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>>121423809
you wish you could meme this hard lad
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>>121423641
Believe me, when i first joined the team that was one of my main concerns, but looking at it there arent really. We have taken out a ton of unused stuff, but load time is still fairly long.

>>121423219
Sadly, upstab isnt possible. Crouching is already in it.
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>>121424016
>Sadly, upstab isnt possible.
yes it is
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>>121424221
It is, but then we would have to do it for all guns.
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>>121424995
Some sort of gun prejudice. #yesallGuns
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>>121424995
couldn't you incorporate a different animation for guns that don't have bayonets, like the rifles do in NW for example?
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Did Viking Conquest ever get fixed?
I checked today and found out it got a "Reforged Edition" yet when I still play it crashes randomly and I can't even start Story Mode without it crashing before I stop on the boat.

Who's bright idea was it to agree on launching it with this much fuckery?
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>>121424995
literally did this in 30 seconds
>Sadly, upstab isnt possible
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>>121424005
just meme my shit up
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>>121425286
>>121425124
>>121425593

Im just a scener, friends. I asked one of our scripters and he said we would have to do it for all guns.
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>>121425770
true memers never die

this was truly one of /mbg/'s finest hours lads, many tears were drunk and many laughs were had
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>>121425936
do what for all guns? all it is is checking an item flag and then moving on to the next item
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>>121425770
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>>121426078
Have an upstab. Like I said, I dont know much about this area so i wont try to come up with stuff about it.
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>>121426135
ethnic cleansing when
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>>121426330
not soon enough
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>>121426208
what do guns have to do with upstab?
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>>121426503
Guy asked for upstabs on muskets.
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>>121426487
RIP
I
P

desu
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>>121426052
Those spiders were amazing
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>>121422668
Ranged branch for Bartoly done. Now just the swordsmen branch and their tree will be finished
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>still no ACOCK 2.1

What the fuck is this faggot doing?
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>>121401804
ONLY KOOFERS WILL SAVE THIS BOARD
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>>121429503

I don't understand this meme
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>>121256014
My family banner of course.
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>>121432702
Somebody made a post one day that was a greentext story that included yelling "KOOFERS" for some reason and a single autist has been trying to make it a meme ever since.
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>>121429130
why do people want this mod so badly
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>>121435429
because they have shit taste
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Any new mods out?
Is 1257 playable yet?
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>>121436458
>Is 1257 playable yet?
what are you talking about
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>tfw
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>>121440638
time to clean out the trash anon
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How many factions are in 1257?
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>>121448619
A lot.

1. Teutonic Order
2. Kingdom of Lithuania
3. Golden Horde
4. Kingdom of Denmark
5. Polish Principalities
6. Holy Roman Empire
7. Kingdom of Hungary
8. Novgorod Republic
9. Kingdom of England
10. Kingdom of France
11. Kingdom of Norway
12. Kingdom of Scotland
13. Gaelic Kingdoms
14. Kingdom of Sweden
15. Kingdom of Halych-Volhynia
16. Kingdom of Portugal
17. Crown of Aragon
18. Kingdom of Castille
19. Kingdom of Navarra
20. Emirate of Granada
21. The Papal States
22. Roman Empire of Nicaea
23. Crusader States
24. Kingdom of Sicily
25. Mamluk Sultanate
26. Latin Empire
27. Il-khanate
28. Hafsid Dynasty
29. Kingdom of Serbia
30. Kingdom of Bulgaria
31. Marinid Dynasty
32. Republic of Venice
33. Jotvingians
34. Prussians
35. Curonians
36. Samagotians
37. Welsh
38. Republic of Genoa
39. Republic of Pisa
40. Guelphs
41. Ghibellines
42. Kingdom of Bohemia
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>>121449751
>1. Teutonic Order
This is the proper ranking.
The trueborn son of Rome is curiously absent from your list, however.
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1257 has training the peasants quests with everyone in heavy mail and broken spear (thrust-only) weapons, at least in Calci (Pisa village)

What is this shit?
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>>121449751

>37. Welsh

kek. Poor Welshy. When the Principality was destroyed they were never quite the same.
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>>121422991
>being a part of fucking meme invasion: shitting up the m&b community boogaloo

Go kill yourself.
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>>121455961

How about we meet and settle our differences like men, if you don't like our fucking mod, you little worm?
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Did you guys get the relevant information from this month's Oyungezer magazine? I ordered a copy and when it comes I might upload the pages with translation
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>>121456645
You might become the hero we need mate
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>>121456645
T H E R E A L M V P
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>>121405729
The part on the way to Oldtown where he said something about the sphinx not being the riddle? I guess you're right. Also is the "sword" then synonymous with her dragons in this case? Why didn't the old Valyria or at least their dragons help during the last long night if it's that simple?

>>121387098
So much this. The characters are the redeeming feature of those books.
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>>121456645
Me sucky sucky you for free.
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>>121456226
LEL LE EBIN MAYMAY TOPKEK TROLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Go fucking kill yourself, you retarded Polish piece of cancer.
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>>121458260
>Why didn't the old Valyria or at least their dragons help during the last long night if it's that simple?

Valyria is said to have been founded something over 5000 years ago. The Long Night happened over 8000 years before Aegon showed up in Westeros. Even if they had been around, I don't think it ever reached Valyria.
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>>121458794
>I don't think it ever reached Valyria.

It must have though, since the last Azor Ahai was an Asshai dude. Asshai and Valyria aren't that far apart at all, you'd think at least one of the supposedly hundreds of valyrian precursors with dragons - or the dragons themselves, as the wights murder everything living = dragon food - would feel threatened by the white walkers and the constant night enough to do something about it. Assuming Danys three dragons are enough to end it in present day, why wouldn't the ancient dudes just get off their asses? Or did dragons just not exist until Valyria formed?

This is stupid.
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>>121459202
>Asshai and Valyria aren't that far apart at all

Yes they are. They're further apart than The Wall and Dorne. Look at pic related, Asshai is the dark place right in the bottom-right corner. Valyria is the one in the middle, a bit to the left. The theory most people accept is that the world is spherical like ours and what you can't see on the map of the known world is the Eastern-most part of Essos and The Lands of Always Winter in the North linking up, so the white walkers came from the North in Westeros and the far East in Essos. In both cases, they were probably halted long before they reached Valyria in the middle. An alternative is that Azor Ahai never even fought white walkers but some other threat, it's never actually specified.

>you'd think at least one of the supposedly hundreds of valyrian precursors with dragons

Nobody tamed dragons before Valyria. Valyria was such a massive superpower because they were the first to figure that shit out. There were no dragon riders in the Long Night.

>or the dragons themselves

Well as I said, they probably never got close to Valyria where the dragons seem to have migrated to at some point. Maybe they did encounter dragons, but I don't see why you would expect that wild dragons would go into full on white walker genocide mode. More likely the white walkers would encounter these wild creatures, get fucked up and learn to just move around in their conquest of the humans.
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>>121460191
>inb4 white walkers invade the warm lands because there's a FUCKHUGE dragon as big as a mountain that eats 100000 white walkers each day

We How To Tame Your Dragon Now.
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Reminder that dragons in ASOIAF got grounded by heavy rain
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>>121460531
One of the earliest battles in the Dance of Dragons was an aerial dragon battle that took place in the middle of a raging storm over Shipbreaker Bay.
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>>121460191
That makes sense. Thanks for explaining man.
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>>121460798
Dragons were unable to go north during winter at times
Dragons were downed by thunderstorms
Dragons have been 1 hit killed by ballista
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>>121461329
This is the first I'm hearing of any of these. The first one sounds like it's probably not truly a case of "they couldn't" but more they weren't fond of it and the riders didn't push them because they're giant fire breathing lizards that you don't really want to piss off at the end of the day. As for the other two... and? They shouldn't be indestructible creatures that can shrug off lightning bolts and flying boulders (could be that your examples are not fully grown dragons too).
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We /lit/ now ?
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>>121461804
The Princess and the Queen iirc
good short story, give it a read
I prefer things like that and dunk and egg to the main ASOIAF novels
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>>121461876
Pretty sure /lit/ would just call ASOIAF pleb garbage and tell us to fuck off really.

>>121462027
I read that very recently and I certainly don't recall those things happening. Maybe the ballista one when they were attacking the ships and one got taken down. I don't think that was a 1 hit kill, they'd been getting pelted for a while.
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>>121462126
One shot into either the eye or neck, and it went down, got tangled and died
I remember there being parts about dragons getting grounded by storms and being unable to go north in there too, but it's been a long while since I read it
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>>121462126
>Pretty sure /lit/ would just call ASOIAF pleb garbage and tell us to fuck off really.
I did'nt like ASOIAF (here we call it The Iron Throne series) mainly because I was far too young to read it when the first two volumes were gifted to me.
But I wouldn't say it is garbage or even pleb. imo its a nice change from standard fantasy even if it has a lot of flaws
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>>121458503

Calm down fag
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I haven't played in a while. I played the original and then native warband for ages then finally got in to 1257ad, brytenwalda and that weeaboo one I can't remember the name of which was probably my favourite of the bunch.
I'm mostly just waiting for Banner lord but I was wondering if there are there any newer total conversions I can play? The furthest from native the better really.
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>>121464912
>any newer total conversions I can play? The furthest from native the better really.
Check TLD if you haven't already. Its got interesting mechanics that replace native ones.
It boviously has some bad sides but if you want something really different from native you should check it.
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>>121464912
I dunno about newer but I guess you can try The Gathering Storm if you'd be interested in a mod with a magic system. I haven't tried too much yet so not a lot I can recommend.
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>>121464912
>The furthest from native the better really

Try Warphilia if you want a truly massive overhaul that leaves you going "what the fuck is going on?"
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>>121465195
Also it has nice scenes.
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>>121464912
don't try warphilia, try warwolf
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ACOCK 2.1 when
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>set entire army to blunt weapons
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>Just finished building my new ship in VC
>Busse that carries 90 men, stock it with the best warriors I have
>On the way back to my kingdom's territory I run smack dab into an enemy king's army
>270 men versus my 90
>Tell him I don't want to fight, tells me to hold my tongue so I can beg him for mercy
>Battle takes place during a raging storm at night
>Lose 8 men, he loses an army

I'm sure some of you do this kind of shit on the reg but I'm still hype as fuck
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>>121456226
Just a note, this guy isn't on the dev team.

Also I don't get the whole meme circle jerk against FI2. There's like a hundred factions, 2 or 3 of which are memes...
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I'm trying to put away every single lord that isn't good natured or upstanding. It's going okay.
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>>121473476
Because it has that garbage in the first place
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>>121461329
>Dragons have been 1 hit killed by ballista
That's the biggest pile of retarded bullshit I've ever read.

Hitting a single point on a static wall is already tough enough with a ballista.

Hitting a horse would be near impossible.

Hitting an animal that can truly move in three dimensions would be COMPLETELY impossible.
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>>121473476
Just putting meme shit in a mod makes you fucking cocksucking Redditor garbage.

The fact that it's made by a bunch of retarded Russian cunts doesn't help.
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Anyone want me to make a banner for them? I'll take any requests, bored as fuck.
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>>121473102

>Find the same guy with 160 men, still running around in my 90 man boat
>He turns and runs

Do NPCs actually learn to fear you in this game when you smack their shit apart?
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>>121477575
A dragon/drake/winged snake/hydra/whatevermang ripping a knight to shreds, on a green field.
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>>121477575

Bowser, with shades, wailing on a double neck guitar, notes coming out, he's on a surfboard, and above him in cursive it says "Let's party", and the whole thing is in front of a big pot leaf, in front of a big cross.
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>>121478740

Actually you know what, instead of "Let's party" have it say "Happy Birthday Rick" cuz he is havin' a birthday party tomorrow night and he will freak out if he sees that
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So... I'm playing Last days of Third Age and I got the quest "Find the lost spears of King Bladorthin". It's bugged. I google searched it and found out that they were "working on it and almost finished" a long time ago but I don't think they remembered to fix it for 3.3.

Is there any fix to that or other way to do it on other way or something?
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How is The Conquerors of Coultchorn?
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>>121480745
Looks like yet another clusterfuck mod
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I'm running Linux Mint, and Warband worked perfectly fine for me up until this morning.

Now it will start but instantly crash, no video, no load screen. My steam avatar box will go green for a split second, then the game will say "syncing" on the steam thing and close. I tried just about every single fix that google dug up and it still won't work. I've validated files, reinstalled the game, reinstalled steam, etc, and nothing works.
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>>121482184
Did you try an offline copy?
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>>121473476
The problem with FI2 is that there's not really any quality control and some of the people working on it are retarded. The community is full of 9gaggers and redditors who only want to play LotR and the factions have bullshit like invisible riders on large mounts that take forever to kill or monsters that don't match up with their hitbox at all.
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>>121482358
What do you mean offline copy? Like, start Steam in offline mode?
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>>121484018
No the non steam m&b copies
In the op, the version archives
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>>121484653
Will try one of them now.
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>>121484653
>>121484710
It won't work for me. It's all .exe files, I'm on Loonix Mint.
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>>121484983
damn i dunno then, did you update anything recently?
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>>121487250
I didn't. Which is why I'm really confused.

I remember getting drunk and starting a new game on the Floris module, playing for a few hours, then going to sleep. Closed the game, and when I tried to re-launch it when I woke up, instant CTD. Fucking confusing.
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>>121487752
did you change any video options? maybe just try launching native
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>>121488374
Tried both, it dindu nuffin.
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>>121483104
All of the issues with hit boxes and invisible riders have been fixed for the next update. We also put some work into improving quality.
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>>121489069
>improving quality.
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>>121489069
>We also put some work into improving quality.

You removed LOTR and added more dinosaurs?
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>>121477730
i have a character with 600 renown and there have been parties of up to like 160 that will run from me and 70 men
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>>121478740
>>121478908
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Nobody knows why it CTD's on Loonix?
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>>121493429
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=310582.0
did you try any on here
i don't know anything about linux sorry m8
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>>121489069
>We also put some work into improving quality.
So the entire FI2 team is planning on suicide by memes?

I suggest you all get an EPIC REDDIT COMIC mask, sit around in a circle with kitchenknives and commit murder-suicide.
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>>121494168
Similar but different issue to what I have. His game will actually start up and open a window. He just had texture errors.

My game won't even open a window.
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Ok guys. With the recent Bannerlord news I am now bored of Warband.
Is there any mod that are working and are fun to play ?
I already did TLD Gekokujo Floris
PoP doesn't look really fun to me. And I am not sure about 1257.
What do ?
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>>121494493
I have never even played FI2 but god damn dude will you stop shitting up the thread with shitposting
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>>121496091
Do you like ASoIAF? Play ACOK. Otherwise Warsword.
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>>121496091
Play Full Invasion 2 on multiplayer.
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>>121496294
>Otherwise Warsword.
Maybe I'll try that, don't really like warhammer that much but the empire troops look nice.
>>121496570
>trying this hard
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>>121496809
Could you please elucidate me on the memes of this general? There's something wrong with Full Invasion or multiplayer?
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>>121489069
Did you get rid of all "flying" units and invisible rider units? Would make the mod bearable for me. Anoyher problem FI2 has is variety in the wrong places. There's like 50 gladius reskins and 20 segmemtata reskins when you could just have 5 unique models instead. Also I'm sure the texture bloat comes from the invading factions.
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>>121497902
there's also shitloads of terrible assets and retarded stuff
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>>121498082
There's a mix of good OSP stuff in there too. If they just pruned a lot of the worthless factions like the fantasy roman womyn faction and ponies they could focus on higher quality textures and content. Also if they would get rid of the one handed sword blocking animations and the skyrim HUD i'd like that too.
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Best setup for throwing weapons?
Its ACoK and yes yes I know about the only thing I didn't played yet
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>>121454598

Cymru am byth faget
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>>121450224
There's nothing more pathetic than crusader roleplayers and crusader orders fanboys.
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>>121499680
LE DEUS VULT XD
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>>121498357
>There's a mix of good OSP stuff in there too.
of course there is, but it's like most fantasy mods: they're a clusterfuck of assets
some are absolute trash and some are good, and some are great, but there's never consistency
>Also if they would get rid of the one handed sword blocking animations
wait what one handed sword animations?
>and the skyrim HUD
god that is awful, but HUD is clientside so you can edit it yourself
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>>121499919
Exactly.
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>>121499971
When you block to the left with a one handed sword it's a different animation that's hard to read. It used to not be a problem because everything was one/two-handed but then the update came. Also there's enough good OSP assets for them to make at least 10 solid factions and invading factions.
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>>121501231
i haven't played it in ages, must be recent
sounds retarded though
>Also there's enough good OSP assets for them to make at least 10 solid factions and invading factions.
oh definitely, but they'd rather focus on meme shit
they're also too lazy to do itemization properly so all the weapons are the same
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Which mod are you guys talking about ?
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Can someone give me the rundown on what was changed in Modded 1257AD ?
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>>121501908
The guy here did say they're removing some of the meme factions. In my opinion more than half of the factions should be removed and rebuilt to be simpler but less shit.
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>>121504041
less factions but more variation
each faction should have different troops so they can play differently
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>>121499680
I don't hold any illusions that pretty much every crusade was a massive joke that failed to do anything constructive.
But there's a romance to the idea, so I won't knock people for buying into it either.
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>>121504415
They weren't total failures, do you see any Lithuanian pagans today?
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>>121504236
Also actual good troops. I want thorakitai or proper hoplites instead of meme shit like leonidas and 300 spartans. Proper peltasts too.
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>>121504415
Hey now, the Crusades sure featured a lot of Christian on Christian violence. Because there's no juster cause than bashing the brains in of your fellow Christians than because some scheming Venetian tells you to.
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>>121504041
Please tell me they remove the "politics" faction. That shit is just 12-year old Redditor fedora tier.
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There's just not room for this battle size on these fucking boats man
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>>121503096
Been a lot of talk about ACOK and ASoIAF in general this thread, so I picked that up again. People are shitting on FI2 too so I might try that as well to see what the fuss is about. Half of the mods I like the most I started playing because you guys were trashing them.

I am not ashamed of my shit taste in the slightest.
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>>121506782
Hot damn your pc can handle all that dakka?
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>>121507016
FI2 is still fun but it could go from decent to great if they cleaned up the mod.
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>>121460191
I forgot how retarded the geography of ASOIAF is.
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>>121507652
With this many boots on the ground I get 40- ish fps in general, with dips down to 25 when the bodies begin to pile up. Plus huge stutters every thirty seconds or so. It's not optimal gameplaywise but it can be really cool to look at, and makes big battles feel a lot more grand. Generally there are only 500-600 troops or so involved at a battle at any given time though, so it's not usually that much dakka.
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>>121506153
>orthokeks massacre all italians in constantinople
>wow why are these guys attacking our city?
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>>121505754
yeah that too, especially when the 300 shit all the troops just play the same
better to have more troop class types
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>>121512948
>>orthokeks massacre all italians in constantinople
That was after Venice decided to be the sole jews of the meditteranean
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>>121517780

V E N I C E
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>>121518515
What the ever living fuck
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>>121518515
Anyone get around to trying Conquerors of Coultchorn yet? It worth a shot?
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>>121518515
what a clusterfuck
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>>121523934
bo
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>>121507016
>Half of the mods I like the most I started playing because you guys were trashing them

Pretty reasonable desu, PoP is the best example of a good mod that /mbg/ shits all over with a passion because the devs are faggots and they can't separate their feelings about the devs from their assessment of the mod itself.
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>>121524179
PoP is a boring grind against OP enemies
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Getting excited for FO4

Why hasn't anyone ever made a Fallout mod for M&B?
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>>121524576
PoP is actually much less grindy in the late game than Native.
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amyone feel like playing meme invasion? Is it LotR 24/7 still or did people get taste?
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>>121524895
The early and mid game is the best bit of mount and blade
And it's fucking shit in PoP
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>>121525000
>>121524179
>>121524895
>late game
>less grindy

>player knighthood order exists in its vanilla state
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>>121525000
There are improvements to those as well with knighthood orders, heartbeat quests and the range of fief improvements giving you much more to keep yourself occupied with in times of peace. In native there is absolutely nothing to do when you're not at war.
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>>121525390
What are you talking about? Do you mean the player knighthood order being the shit units they start out at as before you train and equip them to be OP?
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>>121525754
That it takes literal years for them to even match the stats and equipment of the units you train them out of is a fucking embarrassment to game design.
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>>121525931
>Literal years

If you're stupid enough to play it without enabling the dev menu to make the equipment changes immediate then that's your problem.
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>>121526224
If one has to cheat, it's a problem, period.
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>>121526323
>If one has to cheat, it's a problem, period.
^This.
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>>121526323
>>121526452
>Changing a feature of a mod is cheating and the mod with that change doesn't count as existing

This is the kinda shit I'd expect to hear from SaxonDragon. Just accept that PoP with that override is a good mod, regardless of whether it's the way the autistic devs intended it to be.
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>>121524179
I feel that exact way about ACoK to be honest. Cozur is a cunt and terrible at taking critique but he obviously puts a lot of effort into the mod. Shit at balancing stuff out gameplaywise, but he really gets the lore and feel of ASoIAF right and I go into it expecting that rather than the pinnacle of Warband modding so I come out more than happy.
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>>121524179
The majority of /mbg/ probably likes PoP, it's just that those who don't are louder about it
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>>121506782
What kinda name is edvin
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>>121530123
Means "many friends" in gaelic. Solid conversationpiece when people don't shorten it to Eddie, so I'm not complaining
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>>121530478
Just busting your balls mate. it's pretty cool. how's Quinten strike you as a name?
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>>121530754
Sounds dope af, but I'm big on unusual but not outlandish names so I might be the wrong guy to ask
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>>121530754
>Quinten
Isn't that just Quentin with reversed letters.
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>>121531132
Thanks I needed that.
>>121531906
My dad spelt it how he thought it was spelt. later turns out that's not the traditional spelling.
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>>121531906

mind blown

I feel like a life-sized meme now
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Just got warband and I'm really enjoying it, though I noticed the online games focused a lot on the napoleonic DLC, is it that good? I'm poor as fuck and didn't bother to get it but I might as well save for it I guess.
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>>121532274
>he bought the game
I kid, I kid, I'll buy it soon in the future. I've seen plenty of online stuff here that isn't napoleon.
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>>121532274
it's a MP only mod and it's one of the more popular MP things, though native warband is popular as well
you should've got NW last week during halloween, it was 2bux
it'll be on sale during thanksgiving anyway
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whatcha doin /mbg/
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>>121533327

thinking about you~
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>>121533327
Building a model for a constraint satisfaction problem for an assignment that was due yesterday.
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>>121533540
its not as if i wanted your attention or anything b-baka~

>>121533671
I have this assignment to write a legislative proposal for reform of the education in my country, with a real one as a template. It's due tomorrow and I'm fiddling with the Warsword troop trees instead.

I can relate is what I'm saying
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>>121533327
i was thinking about starting work on knights the last battle
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>>121534462
What's that my g?

I'm going to dump screenshots as another means of violently procrastrinating
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>>121534894
the mod, knights the last battle
i want to make it not shit
it's set in 15th century europe with england, france, HRE, switzerland, flanders, and burgundy
problem is it has a fuckload of terrible assets, janky features, shit weapon and armor balance, and terrible english
also the font is awful
it seems to have pbod but idk about diplomacy
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>>121535382
So you fixing it up a one man show so far? Maybe I could help.
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>>121535656
i barely started i'm just thinking on how to do it now
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>>121256132
>I fucked...
Hi I'm new and wait, can you have sex in this game now?
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>>121536181
with the right mods
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>>121533327
Doing the field tech work of 2.5 techs while my supervisors have me clean up their screw ups on a school wide technology upgrade.
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Could anyone compile all A New Dawn versions so it can be the latest playable version into one file and upload it somewhere

I can't download shit from nexus
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How does /mbg/ feel about Perisno? - It looks pretty fun.
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>>121537748
you know a new dawn is like 6 gigs right
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>>121538775

oh well im just asking

without extracting it's 3gb
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PROGRESS
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>>121473795
what mod
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Since the thred is ded I figured I'd post some webms I made about armor. This one's supposed to show the flexibility and protection mail had.
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>>121547002
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>>121547374
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>>121547002
>>121547374
This is some terrible quality shit.
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Hey so in warsword conquest mod, after I die in battle my troops stand there in the shield formation i left them. Then they're picked off because they stand there and take the fighting one at a time instead of charging together. Whats up?
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>>121533327
Playing Viking Conquest that a friend gifted me, seems like Brytenwalda with boats
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>>121547589

>>121547649
There's a reason it's in black and white.
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>>121548090
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>>121547679
You should always look at your mod configuration in the camp menu first.
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>>121548264

I can't even begin to imagine how I'd ever get my foot inside of something like that
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>>121548667
>get my foot inside

why would you ever keep your own feet if you have access to superior robot feet you cant attach to your legs
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>>121548502
thank you
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>>121538131
Perisno is fun.
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>>121547827
Kinda sad it took until Batman Begins for Batman to be able to turn his head.

>>121548090
>>121548264
These are all great. The entire video is rather good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqC_squo6X4

>>121547374
This is particularly important due to that Hollywood abomination that is crane loading Knights onto their horses. Adding to the tendency for fully armored men to get killed by sword slashes and the only purpose armor tends to serve is in homogenizing minor characters.
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>>121550989
You mean to tell me this isn't accurate?
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>>121550989

this tbqh family smdh btw armor of any sort makes you pretty much invulnerable to single strikes from a slashing weapon
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>>121552239
That's false though.
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>>121551951
Sword is neither big enough and did not effortlessly go all the way through. This is more accurate honestly tbqh senpai.
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>>121552553
no it isn't
literally the main thing armor of any kind is designed for is to nullify slashing, except in the 20th century and later because of firearms
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>>121551951
>Just realized he effectively took out 3 people with one swing.
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>>121552696
holy shit that looks retarded
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>>121553098
Gotta think big m8.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNc7kHADtUw

Behold the power and splendor
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>>121553095
>>121551951

it's such a shame that this is actually one of the more accurate hollywood movies
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>>121524895
>playing fi2
>finally doing something other than fucking LOTR
>FORM A SHIELDWALL YOU GUYS
>WOW WHAT THE FUCK GUYS SHIELD WALL
>several 13 year olds bitch the whole game about a shield wall until it switches back to LOTR inevitably
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>>121552740
Armor is designed to protect you. Do you think the middle ages was just people walking around in full plate? Blunt trauma from a sword in mail will still fuck you up but it's the different from being fucked up and split open. The Romans even had to add ridges to their helmets specifically because the falx could split them or break shields. This meme that armor made you invulnerable is just the other end of the spectrum of >>121551951
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>>121553796
>Blunt trauma from a sword in mail will still fuck you up but it's the different from being fucked up and split open.
if that was true then why did swords transition to thrusting oriented? we could just use our swords as maces right
>The Romans even had to add ridges to their helmets specifically because the falx could split them or break shields
falx's aren't comparable to swords, they're not even a slashing weapon they're closer to something like an axe
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>>121554057
>if that was true then why did swords transition to thrusting oriented? we could just use our swords as maces right

Are you seriously stupid enough to think that either something has literally no effect whatsoever or it's the best option available and people wouldn't go for better alternatives? Getting hit with a sword in armour would still result in some damage, but it's obviously more effective to stab people or use a weapon better designed for blunt damage than to just whack people with your sword. Stop being an idiot who thinks everything has to be one extreme or the other.
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>>121426874
mod?
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>>121555920
you wouldn't hit someone in armor with a sword in the first place
that's just dumb
you'd stab them or halfsword or mordhau if you didn't have something to deal with the situation properly
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>>121557130
Of course you wouldn't. Nobody's saying you would or should. It's just wrong to say that if you have armour, slash attacks do literally nothing.
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>>121557130
>halfsword
>mordhau
So you are retarded and think the middle ages was just plate
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>>121557809
>...if you have armour, slash attacks do literally nothing.
Not literally nothing, but pretty damn close to nothing assuming the armor is any good.
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>>121557809
but they don't do anything
that's the WHOLE point of armor, slash attacks are the most deadly "type" in comparison to other types of "damage"
so armor is going to have the best migitation against slashing first and foremost
it also completely depends on the sword, it's nowhere near as clear cut as that
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>>121557984
>give examples on the only way swords are useful against armors
>you're just a tard
epic
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>>121553794
fi2?
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>>121557998
>assuming the armor is any good

Here we are again with armour being equated to plate armour, as you're doing with that webm. Why don't you find us some webms of that same thing happening to a guy in mail.
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>>121558175
You posted two examples that only came into existence when plate and transitional plate appeared.
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>>121558384
ok and? there was no timeframe for this
so against mail there would've been maces, lances, spears, and thrusting with a sword since swords in europe became more adept at stabbing than cutting over time
you still wouldn't chop someone with a sword because mail is great at slashing protection, like every other armor
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>>121558643

"slashing" attacks aren't done by fucking wailing your arms about in wide circles anyway, to "slash" with a sword you basically need to thrust in or out to generate the right type of cutting force
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>>121559035
you're not stabbing with the point if you're trying to hit with the edge
if slashing was effective against mail and other armors then european swords wouldn't have changed as dramatically as they did
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>>121559314
>if slashing was effective against mail and other armors

Nobody is saying they're effective, just that you wouldn't receive no damage of any kind if you're on the receiving end.
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>>121560217
the armor is doing its job against the cutting damage, in terms of the game as of right now it shouldn't do any damage
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>>121560327
>...as of right now it shouldn't do any damage

>Tank sword slashes
>Punch bitches with lovely steel gauntlets
I would very much enjoy if a game let me do this once. As a central mechanic though, not due to defense/attack stat logic being retarded.
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I really wish Warband had some actual legit realistic armor where Knights were virtually invincible titans unless you either had a halberd or forced them onto the ground- Maille or Plate. The whole armor rating system is fucked up- everything needs to be stronger. A good hauberk will stand up to a lance strike. A good coat of plate will laugh off a lance strike.

Also, Reich Stronk. Been curbstomping everybody as the Drachen Reich in Perisno, I fucking love this mod. Nothing else lets me run around on a giant white wolf mount wielding a zweihander that is literally on fire.
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>>121560327
>in terms of the game right now
Mount and blade only has one set of plate armor and there is evidence of swords splitting helms and killing people in armor.
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>>121553098
It is not when you slay literal demons for a living.
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>>121560581
They use blunt swords for those matches and you cant strike at specific parts of the body like the back.
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>>121562330
Are you implying it would have cut if the sword were not blunted in this specific instance?
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Armor nerd here. Maille (assuming a good hauberk here made of a thick weave and riveted/welded, not merc shit) will definitely make a sword fairly useless for cutting. The weakness of maille type armor is that the links, regardless of how strong they are, are not a single solid slab of metal and thus will not absorb much kinetic energy at all. Whereas a coat of plate or breastplate will tank a strike from a mace due to the rigid structure soaking up the kinetic energy- with maille that energy goes straight from the maille and into your body.

This is why padding was worn under or over maille, it keeps the kinetic energy from simply breaking your bones or causing internal bleeding even if the cutting force is stopped. It certainly is strong stuff and we have accounts of combat maille (not jousting/double hauberks) tanking lance strikes and many, many arrows. But it has weaknesses. Any place where there's a lot of bone and little muscle, such as the shoulder, shins, or back, is a weakpoint in maille and would be targeted. It's easier even for a sword to deal notable damage to the body in those locations, with the energy of the strike going straight into the bone with little slowing by the underlying gambeson. So while a M&B style side slash should do very little to a mailled Knight- downward strikes on the shoulders especially should give you a really bad day.
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>>121560581
Yeah but just to note, those competitions are complete horsehit. The most realistic Medieval combat videogame would basically be an MMA fighter with some swordfighting thrown in.
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>>121562756
It's called mail armor

Maille is a brand of mustard
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>>121563027
It's called maille Saxon cur.
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>>121562756
It's a given that mount and blade style flailing wouldn't do much against armor but it's also ridiculous to imply swords were useless against anyone in armor when they were still used. That's what this whole argument is about.
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>>121562898
>...with some swordfighting thrown in.
I agree with MMA fighter, but "sword"fighting emphasis is very offensive.
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>>121563264
Well they weren't. Swords weren't a primary weapon at all for fighting other knights, they were the pistols of their days. Unless this was the Early-Early Mid Middle Ages, but of course that was before Coat of Plates really became a thing and swords were still useful against maille by simply hammering away at vulnerable spots.

The only way swords should do shit to plate armor in Warband or Bannerlord is either "press X to mordhau" or thrusting into a small hitbox located in the armpits or visor like WOTR did (however poorly.)

>>121563342
Oh you know what I meant.
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>>121563558
That's retarded why would mordhau be in Bannerlord
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>none of the video game taught armor experts source any of their wild claims

yeah did you know that, actually, until the invention of nuclear warheads, can openers were the only weapon used and effective against fully armored knights?
the more you know
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>>121563558
>Swords weren't a primary weapon at all for fighting other knights, they were the pistols of their days

Which doesn't contradict the post you're replying to in the slightest, since he never said they were the primary weapon, just that they weren't useless. Are you saying pistols are useless?
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>>121563558
Swords were a primary weapon up until at least the high middle ages and they were still used often past that.
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>>121563849
Pistols pretty much ARE useless for the military.
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>>121563825
Are you fucking retarded? Everyone knows blowtorches were the weapon of choice in the High Middle Ages.
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>>121564016
not that guy, adding onto your post:

pistols now are literally just pieces of jewelry in the military. mostly only officers and SAW gunners get them.
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DED
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>>121435964
>>121435429
Because after 2.1 it will objectively be the best mod out there.
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How the fuck do I get started in Viking Conquest?
I just seem to constantly get dicked over by fucking everything
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>>121569697

just like real vikings desu
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Warsword update when?
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>>121571708
pffff
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Page 9
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>>121569697
Farm bandits enough to get a boat. Buy tar iron timber and soapstone in Norvegr and sell it in everywhere else.
Buy wool in Ireland.
Sell it I'm Dorestad, buy wine and salt.
Sell the wine in Denmark the salt in northvegr
Rinse and repeat
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is napoleonic wars going to get some kind of update along with bannerlord?
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>>121569697

If you're doing story mode, you can buy some ranged weapons in Doccinga for 10p. It's actually the only bow in the game you can use while mounted.

Then if you feel confident you can try farming roaming bands of thieves to get gear, or go to Dorestad, go to the training grounds, and fight people for money. Once you at least have a weapon and shield you can actually stand a chance against shit.

If there's a tournament going on, you can compete in that, too. At the start of each match F1 F2 to make your group follow you, or they split up and get fucked and then you get gangbanged. If you win the tournaments you can make thousands of peningas, and be awarded really cool shit like some of the best armor and weapons, horses, or cows that passively generate butter like once a week. Winning tourneys will also boost your renown like crazy, making it a lot easier to recruit guys and get the ball rolling.

If you're in sandbox mode, same basic thing but you can't get the free ranged weapons. Just remember to order your teammates to follow you in the tournaments, it's key to victory and will make winning or at least getting really far like 10x easier.

Once you've got enough cash, do what >>121574543 said and start trading it up; once you've got a steady supply of cash you're good to go.

tl;dr fight in tournaments, get money, start trading
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WHERE ARE THE BANNERLORD UPDATES
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>>121582902
NEVER
EVER
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>>121576691
No sound of a possible NW DLC nor about if we'll have firearms in the game files (but not used in game ofc
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NEW BLOG

https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/14

>can have children
>lords can die in battle
>houses can become extinct
>no more retarded animations in mp
>esports
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>>121585096
GODDAMN IT
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>>121585096
yeah, totally clicking that link, like right now
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I am so fucking excited for Bannerlord like holy shit
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>>121585919
Reminder that it's probably coming out in 2017 and we won't get any more blogs because Lust is too fucking lazy and uninterested.
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>>121557998
Must have been nice being a walking tank back then.
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>>121586160
Sweaty and uncomfortable more likely.
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>>121585096
>>>>>>>/trash/
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>>121545638
Looks like ACOK, think I see the wildling armors
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Are Undivided Champions THE strongest unit in Warsword?
A band with 500 of 'em is fucking unstoppable, I'm regularly winning against armies 10 times my size, without losses at that.
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>>121588196
Warband in general has the problem that 500 top-tier units steamroll any and everything except possibly 500 other elite units. Even then it only works if the player's a retard who F1 + F3's and hopes for the best
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>>121586014
You mean Lust is too busy playing the shit out of the alpha.
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>>121589859
You mean Lust is too busy trying to convince Armagan to make the game into an esport.
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>>121590123
Literally the worst community manager
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Never done a claimant thing before.

Should I?

If so, who?

Playing Floris and currently the Nords and Khergits have conquered almost of all the Vaegirs and Swadians, Rhodoks and Sarranids mostly as they started.
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how do I get into trade? I want to roleplay as a merchant
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>>121595990
>Floris
>The Swadian and Sarranid claimants have huge tits
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>>121596271

Buy things at once place, sail somewhere else, sell them there, buy more things from the new place, take them somewhere else, etc.
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Huh, never knew this before but apparently you can turn your wife into a follower in Perisno.
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>playing as a girl for first time ever
>random lords start hitting on me

b-boys pls :3
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>>121597632
i think that's a diplomacy thing
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>>121597682
>they're all poor-ass fags with a single village
>all the lords with towns and castles are either married or gay
it's hard being a woman
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>check steam page
>11,182 In-Game
damn
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Hey lads, in a bit of a pickle here.

If I HAVE to play either PoP or Brytenwalda, which one do I go for? Any reason you choose one or the other?
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>>121601872
Brytenwalda.

Consistent art style (PoP has ugly original M&B items next to high-def items from Skyrim mods), and annoying (difficult) game mechanics at least have a historical basis, unlike PoP which is just idiotic nonsense.

>milord, it'll take ONE YEAR for your knights to learn how to throw away their potato sack shirts and wear genuine leather jerkins!
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>>121601872
Brit if you like boring realism. PoP if you like chalenge and some colors and diversity
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>>121602485
>boring realism
How's first grade champ?
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>>121602485
>colors and diversity

Oh, diversity you'll get in Prophescscscscscscscscsy of Pendor!

Hahahahah!

MMMMM, IS GUD! Those original M&B textures! I especially like all those "plate armours" that have the model of a normal fur coat.
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>>121603103
I wouldn't mind the low res textures if they had good armor design but instead we get leather and steel segmentata with corinthian helms.
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>>121603103
>m&b
>graphics
I'm talking about all the factions being noticeably different, including minor ones, both stylistically and gameplay-wise.
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>>121601872
POP is one of the few "complete" mods out there and is basically a more challenging Native with a few additional features. Brytenwalda is an abomination that adds stupid shit like player stumbling when moving backwards because the devs assume everyone is an uncoordinated fat fuck.

>>121602262
>>121603103
Let me guess. You are the guy that claimed POP was linear?
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MMMMMMMMMMM, IS GUD!

Thanks China!
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>>121603914
This is actually Native behavior BTW. POP doesn't really deviate very far from Native compared to more recent mods. Was doing some illustrations for different players on some siege tricks.

Brytenwalda changes far more than POP does. Most of the gameplay changes fucking suck.
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>>121603679
You have no clue what graphical consistency is, do you?

You don't put fucking SKYRIM assets right next to fucking M&B assets because IT FUCKING CLASHES!

Every time I see that barbarian doom stack I cringe because that guy has more polys than fucking 10000 Eyegrims.
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>>121603914
>POP is one of the few "complete" mods out there and is basically a more challenging Native with a few additional features.
it's literally native with stat bloat
>Brytenwalda is an abomination that adds stupid shit like player stumbling when moving backwards
you can at least turn that off though
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>>121604123
is that war in the world of magic?
It was quite fun to be honest
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>>121601872
The Brytenwalda devs are the same that made VC. If you want to invest in Brytenwalda you may as well play VC.

However another reminder:
>>121250210
>>121323921
>>121250463
>>121259865
>>121260652
>>121261238
A preview of the type of design decisions you can look forward to. Also heard it's buggy and unoptimized as fuck. Someone posted his game bugging out and having an army of himselves (with no AI) while his own army slaughtered him.
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>>121603914
Your mod sucks Saxondragon
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ACoK 2.1 better be fucking amazing with how long it's taking
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>>121604505
I dunno what it is. I'm using Google Translate to browse Russian and Chinese M&B websites.

You know, the kind of website that will get you a Chinese version of PoP featuring anime heroes and WoW monsters renamed to Chinese mythological demons.
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>>121604430
>it's literally native with stat bloat
>literally
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>>121604814
Toss a link here anon.
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>>121603914
PoP is trash, but so is Brytenwalda. Viking Conquest is the best 'complete' module.
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>>121604732
When you strip away the BS it always come to this. Did Saxondragon kick you in the balls or something? Get fucking over it.
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>>121604954
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=nl&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://commando.com.ua/&usg=ALkJrhjPuuSh9KMduq-GpkyWrA6fLKrwfg

Or without the auto-translate...
http://commando.com.ua

ALSO PLEASE SOMEONE REUP WAR IN THE WORLD OF MAGIC, PASTEBIN LINK IS DEAD I WANNA BE A WIZARD LORD VASSAL OF ENGLAND!
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>>121604814
the one I'm talking about is nothing pop related, new map, lots of assets stolen from from HOMM and a shitload of unique stuff like each city/village having a "lair" of some HOMM creature (wolfs den, graveyard. dwarf fort), each having something to do there. Worth a go if someone's in a mood for some weirdness
>>121605129
hear you mate, will do it asap
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>>121604430
To be honest, PoP wasn't bad in the days.

But it just doesn't stand up to stuff like Floris, ACOK, 1257AD, Light&Darkness etc.

It's just an oldass ugly relic of old days.

Right now, the only worthwhile feature in it is the custom knighthood order.
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>>121604973
>...Viking Conquest is the best 'complete' module.
Translation:
Thanks for clarifying that you have shit taste

>>121334235
>The year 2000+15
>Being a literal kek
>WANTING to be a literal kek
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>>121603914
PoP is a poorly designed and overrated piece of shit that gets away with all its flaws because it's "hardcore". It's babby's first fantasy setting and the faction designs are an ugly mishmash of actual armor run through a fantasy filter like >>121603483
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>>121604123
>trying chinese made, russkie acquired light & darkness animu deluxe weeb shit edition
>fighting some "river pirates" with some "manhunters"
>turns out to be nothing but naked wemon
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so i got all the assets together and i'm adding weapons now, planning on making all swords halfswordable and mordhau'able, as well as some polearms can be flipped to use the spike on the butt
i don't know if i'll make messers halfswordable, i haven't decided
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>>121605317
>undead italians
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Holy shit what the fuck did I just download?
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>>121605554
Without elaboration your post basically amounts to:
>I don't like it
>And I think it looks ugly

And as >>121605427 mentions posters forget that this is an original M&B mod ported to Warband. There are better mods today certainly. Nice to not have to worry about random crashes and other bugs though.
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>>121605465
It is. Prove me wrong.
You're probably a faggot who played it on release when it was broken and never touched it again.
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>>121605897
tocans calradia with ayy ylmao
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>>121607939
What the fuck am I playing?
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>>121605554
This anon gets it.
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>>121604638
>>121603914
>>121602262
>>121602485
Thanks for the advice, I guess I'll have to go for both in due time. Why does PoP rile people up so much? Some of you guys seem to be steaming, on both sides of the argument
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>>121609641
It tends to be a hate-it-or-love-it mod. Personally it's my favourite mod but I'll be the first one to say that it doesen't have exactly the latest features implemented. Not to mention Saxondragon, the lead developer, is something of a cunt.
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>>121609641
PoPfags are unwilling to admit their favorite mod has any flaws.
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>>121605129
>>121605317
http://www.filedropper dot com slash warintheworldofmagic
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>>121609641
PoP is a really really old mod, originally for the first M&B.

So a lot of the items have ugly textures (even compared to the Native Warband items), it has some MAJOR grindy/timewasting aspects and the dev team makes Gabrilduro and Cozur look like nice normal people.

It basically aged horribly compared to historical mods AND to fantasy mods.
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>>121609968
>Not to mention Saxondragon, the lead developer, is something of a cunt

I've played ACoK to completion. At this point I'm immune to obnoxious devs.

Which features would you say PoP is missing? As someone who likes the mod, what would you say is wrong with it?
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>>121610189
Lacks a lot of the Diplomacy stuff found in most mods these days.
The start is VERY punishing (you can beat very few enemies). It's not impossible but it can be a bit frustrating.
As mentioned before, a lot of the assets are from the vanilla M&B days, so they are butt-ugly.
It does have its own early version of Formations, but they are not as good as you might get in more recent mods.
Fuck the elves.
The voice acting is absolutely horrendous (the pastebin should have instructions on how to remove this).
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>>121610189
>Which features would you say PoP is missing?
not him but PBOD, i can't remember if it has diplomacy/freelancer but i doubt it does
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>>121610067
If I really want to scratch my fantasy itch, would you say I'm better off with Perisno instead or something else entirely?

On another note, anyone know if bodies will be actual objects with collision in Bannerlords? Stacking corpses to block off entrances makes my dick diamonds
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>>121607602
You need to first assert why you think VC is the best complete module. And even though I have no need to I and other anons have already supplied plenty of evidence on shitty things about VC.
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>>121610189
Grindwall, timewall.

No boats.

Perfect setup for some serious neutral mercenary/bountyhunter gameplay, but you can't build a camp/capture a camp.

Items are ugly as fuck. Every time I level up a new Adventurer and he spawns with a coat of plates I feel noxious and sick.

Whatever tactics shit they use... it's fucking horrible. Throw in some up-to-date PBOD.
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>>121610478
That makes it sound pretty bad. What are the pros?
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>>121610857
>No boats.
People even use boats?

POP is actually among the easiest mods to start your own kingdom. Due to inflated levels you level far more quickly too. If you don't suck balls the grind isn't much different than Native.
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>>121610735
Perisno is... eh.

Mechanically it's fine (bit too big which means it won't run on toasters because your computer will run out of memory reading all the textures), but it's like reverse-PoP.

Depending on your starting choices, you can start with LEGENDARY items, or 10 powerdraw or something equally retarded.
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>>121610048
When the objections are retarded shit like it being linear its easy to think that. POP has many flaws. Just most of them stated here are dumb or "muh aesthetics!"
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>>121610782
well it does have the most features but that doesn't make it the best module
full diplomacy stuff and more, formations and more (new unit types by default, you can always make your own but if they're default then the AI will use them appropriately)
complete sailing and boarding system which is only comparable to caribbean
lord/king start
new kingdom options
custom player base
repairing/refining system from the blacksmith which lets you get better modifiers on equipment

only thing it doesn't have is custom troop trees/orders/whatever which PoP does
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>>121610857
factions well different between them and generally interesting
minor factions and "bosses" on map
stays challening for longer than native thus you don't get bored that easy
has a defined victory condition
stuff to do between wars like quests for knighthood orders or faggot elves
separate noble trees for lategame, a unique culture for player to start kingdom with
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>>121610735
>If I really want to scratch my fantasy itch, would you say I'm better off with Perisno instead or something else entirely?
I'd recommend trying PoP, you might like it. You also might not, but what are you going to lose from trying?

>>121610942
Factions are well balanced and stand out from each other pretty well.
I personally like the setting, this one is more up to taste though.
A lot of nifty minor factions (snake cultists, demon summoning heretics, peasant rebellions etc.)
Knighthood order system, there are existing ones and you can create your own custom one (as can NPC lords, who will occasionally do it). The one you create, you can pretty much 100% customize how the units (the knights and their sergeants) are and what they wear, although it has ludicrous time requirements, I'd recommend reading the pastebin and enabling the dev cheat menu so you can bypass the time.
Heartbeat quests - fiefs you own will give you new quests every now and then.
Endgame has some stuff to do rather than just grind sieges and get the full map (minor faction bosses etc.)
All factions have separate noble troop trees for knights.
Runs pretty well on lower end machines as well.
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>>121610997
>People even use boats?
Are you fucking retarded?

15 speed, regardless of how many soldiers you have.

Bob around from Tihr, to Praven, Jalen and Shariz.

GIT MONEY EASY TRADIN'
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>>121611262
All of the good things you mentioned; with the exception of Lord/King start, are standard in recent compilation mods as Tocans and Suvarnabhumi Mahayuth.

Tocans and Suvarnabhumi Mahayuth also allow you to customize player faction troops.

POP is nice in that it allows you to actually train up the attributes + doesn't give you arbitrary equipment limitations though.
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>>121611361
>factions well different between them and generally interesting
Sarleon: palette swapped Swadians.
Ravenstern: palette swapped Vaegir pretending to be Scots.
Fierdvain: palette swapped Nords with female knights.
D'Shar: palette swapped Khergits pretending to be Sarranids.
>minor factions and "bosses" on map
Hidden so far up the endgame I never even bothered fighting one.
>stays challening for longer than native thus you don't get bored that easy
Which means you'll get bored before you even reach the endgame - as I indicated above.
>has a defined victory condition
Which is a grind.
>stuff to do between wars like quests for knighthood orders or faggot elves
Which is just bullshit to hide away the grindwall.
>separate noble trees for lategame, a unique culture for player to start kingdom with
The Pendor culture is basically "shitty Sarleon troops with black jerkins that level up really fast".
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>>121611497
For quite a few months anons would ask what purpose boats have and no one responded. Higher speed is questionable when you have to circle the entire continent to reach your destination... Especially if you have high path-finder. If you are trading why do you have a large army slowing you down? And further boats don't even let you load >100 men.

Further when I experimented with boats I once was unable to dock, breaking the game. Another anon noted that some bandits randomly were able to sail on land. Never seen the latter myself, it apparently happens.

Because of all this losing boats isn't really a major deal breaker in any sense.
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>>121611583
they are in some form, but not as refined as VC
there's also things i missed like the "dungeons", those locations on the map where you can fight enemies with only your companions and get really good loot
better quests and even a main quest, with a second story quest that isn't tied to the main story
reputation system which changes how bandits and christians respond to you, so you can end up recruiting and trading with bandits
pillaging monasteries/pagan churches

sailing is much better in VC than tocan's, since the sailing in tocan's is basically like sailing in most mods (the battle is just a static map whereas in VC the ships actually move)
none of the other mods have 6 different unit types by the start of the game
VC has more kingdom and diplomacy options, along with random events
the custom player base is better as it has more facilities than other mods
i know tocan's doesn't have equipment refinement but i'm not sure about swedish mayo
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>>121610782
>>121611262
This. What other mod can compare?
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>>121611361
>a unique culture for player to start kingdom with
That is, by design, weaker than all the extant factions, meant for volume and not effectiveness.

>>121611583
>POP is nice in that it allows you to actually train up the attributes + doesn't give you arbitrary equipment limitations though.
Yes, behind an awful timewall, and the knights start weaker than the men-at-arms you train them out of.
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>>121612234
>That is, by design, weaker than all the extant factions, meant for volume and not effectiveness.
in peasant tree - yes. To quickly train them to staff all the garrisons. The noble tree is superior to any other nation - for your personal use.
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>>121611910
>I don't know jack shit about what I am talking about: The post.
Just holy shit.

Most obvious with this:
>D'Shar: palette swapped Khergits pretending to be Sarranids.
D'Shar -- The faction known for their top tier infantry a palette swap of the Khergits?
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>>121612567
Have you looked at what the D'Shar wear?

They're a bad Khergit recolor.
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>>121610057
anyone tried downloading it? Is it working properly?
It's a crazy chinese HOMM themed mod that's strangely polished and feature-heavy for something so bizzare.
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>>121612234
Not personally liking a faction does not make it a flaw for it to exist. If you do not like the player faction game doesn't force you to use player troops faction m8.

>>121612234
While the timewall for top tier equipment is awful its perfectly feasible to make a custom knight order competitive to others if you are willing to compromise with weaker equipment in the interim.
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>>121612831
Saying they're palette swapped Khergits kinda implies they play like Khergits, which they don't.
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>>121611583
>>121612131
Viking Conquest has quantity AND quality. Every feature it has is polished and well implemented. It has a huge map with dozens of little areas where you can get special items. The sailing and naval combat is by far the strongest feature. It even has a story mode. Not to mention the entire dlc is made even better by the variety items submod.
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>>121613060
Don't you know what a palette swap is?

What are you? Fucking twelve?
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>>121613283
A palette swap is a recolor. The problem is that you are implying they are just recolored Khergits, whereas they just have a somewhat similar visual style (honestly I think they're more like the Sarranids than Khergits). No need to get so hostile about it.
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>>121613283
Not even the same anon and do you?
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>>121613043
>If you do not like the player faction game doesn't force you to use player troops faction m8.
Sure, but because of the apparently-a-good-thing Quest Objective is to revive the Kingdom of Pendor, anyone playing is going to, playing the game blind, feel obligated to pick that culture.
And then suddenly the bulk of their armies are now worse than everyone else's.
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Is there anything like Solid and Shade for Warband?
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>>121612567
he should have added stuff like unbalanced weapons, enemies spawn that are impossible to defeat especially at low levels, unbalanced troops, (especially the not viking faction) , ridicoulously high stats combined with badly balanced weapon means that lower tier troops cannot defeeat higher class troops even with massive number superiority, setting is baby's first fantasy setting, you are expexted to know and use limitation in ai and engine to win battles (yes its one of those "hardcore" mods), fucking elves and elfaboo stuff etc.

And theres is no style to anything, everything is taken from other mods and throw in one mod without any artistic direction, like mixing four puzzle and hoping to make something original and deeeeep out of it.
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>>121613501
I said:
>D'Shar: palette swapped Khergits pretending to be Sarranids.
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>>121613167
the main unfortunate thing about VC is just the time period doesn't allow for much variety
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>>121613501
Considering that D'Shar lack any heavy cavalry even a Sarranid example would be false.

May as well just claim any faction that takes inspiration from non-European sources is a palette swap. The assertion as a whole in any context is dumb as shit.
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>>121613668
You can change your kingdom culture any time you want.

>>121613707
While most of your points have some merit,
>And theres is no style to anything, everything is taken from other mods and throw in one mod without any artistic direction, like mixing four puzzle and hoping to make something original and deeeeep out of it.
This isn't true, pretty sure all of the assets and stuff in PoP were made specifically for it.

>>121613781
But they don't really play similarly to either Khergits or Sarranids. So I don't really see your point.
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>>121605574
Looking good
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>no one has mentioned the retarded Qualis Gem economy yet
Really?
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>>121613707
Is this truly a rare case of git gud? POP isn't even that difficult of a mod. Especially by today's standard.
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>>121614331
>investing so much time in PoP to get into the qualis bullshit

Fuck that shit. I'm just going to play Phantasy Calradia and become Lich-lord Shekelstein, the undead trader.
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>>121614331
If you aren't an autistic min-maxer you won't need to hoard qualis gems m8.
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>>121614552
>If you aren't an autistic min-maxer you won't need to hoard qualis gems m8.
But only autistic min-maxers play PoP...
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>>121613964
>>121613964
all those that where adde for it stand out like a black guy in a kkk reunion

just look at the saerlon longsword or whatever and tell me with a straight face that this is quality stuff, and the unit that was posted earlier is one of the better looking one
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>>121614858
I'm not saying they're all good, some of the assets are from the vanilla M&B PoP. That's not the same than them being lifted from other mods, though.
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>>121614349
PoP ia not that hard, its just that if you have the bad luck of speeding up the game time while you travel on the world map you'll get ganked by one of the OP ai parties that roam the map.

Especially those fucking adventurer that like to get you when you are level one and doing some bandit hunting.
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>>121614858
>Fixating on aesthetics of a specific weapon in M&B of all games
Sounds like the refuge of an anon that is just desperate to complain about anything they can.
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Hey guys, is the VC: Reforged any good? Haven't played the thing in a while, read through some changes and it seemed decent on paper. Not gonna play through the quest again though
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>>121615080
many of the assets comes from common content that are free to use, the rest, especially the gem weapons look like some oversized crap that you find in world of warcraft and warhammer without the self-concious knowledge of being over the top or cartoony, essentially making them childish and amateur.
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>>121615101
I agree that it is a pretty big shock to fight a Rogue knight and realize that your peasant troops are essentially incapable of harming them. Which is how it should have always been, remember all the armor discussions earlier?

If you equip your avatar with a competent weapon like a Warhammer you can still actually take them out early by using peasant troops as a distraction while you smash their head in. Can probably do the same with Lances early on.
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>>121605317

what the fuck is that a map of? Golarion?
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>>121615261
those polearms are garbage
it's the lui itempack, all of the assets in it are terrible
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>>121615261
You do realise that no one is complaining about bad graphics in M&B?

People are complaining about HUGE SHIFTS in GRAPHICAL QUALITY in PoP.

1257AD has assets that are all of the same visual quality.

Floris has assets that are all of the same visual quality.

Swedish Mayo has assets that are all of the same visual quality.

Sayazn has assets that are all of the same visual quality.

PoP goes from original M&B assets straight to OSP models from OBLIVION AND SKYRIM. THAT CLASHES!
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>>121615527
>I agree that it is a pretty big shock to fight a Rogue knight and realize that your peasant troops are essentially incapable of harming them. Which is how it should have always been, remember all the armor discussions earlier?


You're retarded. Rogue knights being unkillable with lowlevel troops isn't due to the armour of the Rogue knight (which would be realistic).

It's just that the Rogue knight has absurds amounts of strength and ironflesh.
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>>121615758
>...OBLIVION AND SKYRIM. THAT CLASHES!
Such as? I keep hearing this but have seen no proof. Should be simple.
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>>121615979
>I am so bad at the game I don't even understand it's mechanics
High strength and ironflesh wouldn't stop them from getting stun-locked.
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>>121616138
Just open up your PoP resource folder and take a look at some of the funkier named OSP packs.

It's all old models for Oblivion and/or Skyrim.
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>>121615979
>Rogue knights being unkillable with lowlevel troops isn't due to the armour of the Rogue knight
actually it is
the RCM values in the module.ini are completely different from native, so the armor generally protects better in PoP than in other mods
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>>121615527
of course, i can agree with the peasant vs knight, but the thing is there is so much gap between individual tiers, ie t5 and t6, that even then the t5 would be uselles even in greater number.

I remember watching a ravenstern noble fighting a not-viking guy and litterally getting ravage by a couple of nude dude with oversized sword and lady viking with those fiersdain waraxe(probably the most bullshit common weapon ever put in a mod)
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>>121616334
Can't get stunlocked by low-damage attacks.

Do you even play the game?
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>>121616509
>actually it is
>the RCM values in the module.ini are completely different from native, so the armor generally protects better in PoP than in other mods
Are you sure?

I don't notice any difference with how fast I die whether I use light armour or the heaviest plate I can find.
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>>121616635
...Are you seriously implying that Strength and Iron Flesh has damage mitigation now? Or that low tier troops are implicitly incapable of staggering?
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>>121616826
yeah, open your native module.ini and your PoP module.ini and look at the RCM values
most mods don't bother changing them the only ones i can think of that do are 1257, PoP, and VC
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>>121616867
Low tier troops are incapable of staggering.

In Warsword Conquest I can just pop my Chaos armour on, and WADE through bandits and looters without giving a fuck knowing that none of their attacks will stagger me.
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>>121616826
>I don't notice any difference with how fast I die whether I use light armour or the heaviest plate I can find.
From all of your other posts I am not terribly surprised. Better stay away from mods like Suvarnabhumi Mahayuth if you can't survive in POP of all mods.
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>>121613827
Yeah, but the variety items submod somewhat fixes that.
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>>121617048
its not about difficulty in a vacuum, but how difficulty in PoP is badly balanced and how the game is litteraly about throwing bullshit at the player
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>>121617030
Anyone that has trained peasants to raise village relations would know this is false. Disregard conversation of POP now. Have you even played M&B, ever?
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>>121613827
The time period does allow for variety it's just that the VC dev team is retarded and won't add anything that isn't explicitly stated to exist. There's some solid TW mods (and even an expansion) that take place during the same age and are enjoyable and varied.
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>>121615448
As I stated earlier, it's the best module
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>>121617303
>litteraly
When you can't even differentiate the value of light armor and heavy plate in a mod like POP everything must seem like BS to you.
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>>121617316
You're retarded. There's a .webm of someone showcasing low-damage enemies not causing stunlocking in this thread or the previous one.

>thinking bandits can compare to a warrior decked out in 70 armour plate
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>>121617495
but i wasnt the one commenting about the armor

I'm not the only one thinking that PoP is a bad mod
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>>121617316
>PoP fanboys are steamchat maymay-ers

I'm not surprised.
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>>121617360

All of the Anglo-Saxon, Viking, and Frisian factions should be pretty indistinguishable senpai

Only heavy Frankish mounted troops and the celtic troop trees should be any different... That said I'm fucking pissed there's no Pictish crossbowmen because muh savages cant possibly into technology amirite?
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>>121617650
Yes -- That is due to low damage. Now what does High Strength and Ironflesh have to do with reducing damage?
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>>121617650
well there's actually a threshold for stunning from damage, which you can also change in the module .ini
the default for SP is 3 damage, which it is in PoP as well
in MP it's 1
>>121617841
that's not a steam chat maymay though
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>>121533327
waiting for Oxford to tell me if I did well enough on the entrance exam to get an interview. Also, warsword.
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>>121618001
Even if a recruit in PoP manages to hit an Adventurer to do damage, the high strength and ironflesh means that the Adventurer can continue trucking.
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>>121618262
Refer to >>121618084

I can't believe I am seriously having a conversation on whether peasants are capable of staggering anyone. Even a player with less than an hour's exposure to the game should know this.
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>>121618561
Good luck getting a peasant with 40 proficiency and a bent pitchfork to stagger someone wearing 45 foot armor.
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>>121618735
Yeah... And what does that have to do with Strength and Iron Flesh again?
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>>121617884
There are pictish crossbowmen. The skirmishers have them.
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>>121618735
but they can, especially against cavalry where the speed is a disadvantage since it causes the thrust to do more damage
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>>121616627
>...nude dude with oversized sword
You are probably referring to a Berserker. The odd thing about your example is that Berserkers; due to their lack of armor, are actually one of the easiest troops for low tier troops, missile troops in particular, to kill.

Actually I don't get your example at all as you seem to be complaining that a top tier Ravenstern Noble getting killed in a 1v2, both of which were top tier.
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>>121618812
Even if they get a hit in, the absurd hitpoint bloat that non-faction troops get in PoP means that your peasants will NEVER EVER kill a high level non-faction troop.
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>>121619730
Death is inevitable if they can't fight back due to stun-lock m8.
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>>121619241
Given how shitty recruits are with their weapons, they'll only start poking their weapon after the Rogue Knight has already rammed his lance through the frontline and has bogged down halfway the archery line.
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>>121619159

I stand corrected then

that said, their crossbows are really shit; I remember raising an army of picts because I wanted crossbowmen and being extremely, extremely disappointed in the results
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>>121619730
or they could get stunned by a shitter and have a high damage troop hit them and kill them since they didn't block as they were stunned
i've seen it happen all the time in 1257
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>>121619848
Yeah nah. I just saw a single Demonic Magnus chew through an patrol of Empire knights, a village patrol along with my own group of Hero and Heroine Adventurers.

>only one left, this is gonna be easy
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>>121620841
If you're trying to convince us that you are terrible at the game you are doing a splendid job of this.
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>>121620929
If you're trying to convince me that you play with an imported hero on the easiest game settings... you convinced me.
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>>121621131
You are claiming to have trouble against a single enemy when your forces consist of Hero/Heroine Adventurer(s), which are among the best units in Pendor. What else am I to infer aside from you being completely incompetent at the game?
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>>121621801
>Hero Adventurers
>good

They're only good as in that they're easy to obtain.

Noldor units are far far far superior.
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