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>Liberation weapon FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/7vRmMbnD

-Rare Avatars & Plat emblems coming tomorrow
-Bind cubes CONFIRMED
-Ranked PvP tomorrow
-Kuno definitely this year
-Class revamps after PvP update, will be done in one huge patch early 2016

>NEW EVENTS LISTED HERE (Updated for 10/20)
http://pastebin.com/xqCcNnwU

Fatigue Points(FP) resets at 9AM UTC/5 AM EDT/2 AM PDT

>Official Links
http://www.dfoneople.com
http://facebook com/dfoglobal
http://dfo-notice.blogspot.kr

>Grinding Guide:
http://pastebin.com/BqezU490

>PVP playlist channels
https://www.youtube.com/user/Chengomango/playlists
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKkzSym6LVRhjvrQxr6sFeA

>Guilds
ask in the thread

>Wiki
http://wiki.dfo-world.com/view/Main_Page

>Avatar Simulator(Set to KOR)
http://dnf.exrpg.com/avatar/

>Skill Planner (Entirely unnecessary)
http://dnf.duowan.com/s/jnmn/gjs.html

>Pixiv Tags
アラド戦記 – Arad Senki

>Voicepacks
https://mega.co.nz/#F!R5ByyQSR!Jy-BF-7Fk59XmGnrKVaP-Q
>JP Priest voice
https://mega.co.nz/#!QB0jjZZT!wbE08Q5SsML1leUpVngeLbM6cHY_Gbt0UK0tmXgZGmI

>DnF Original Soundtrack Symphony World
http://pastebin.com/LfzTQcDh
>Touhou Music Pack
http://pastebin.com/yRLzz58L

>Mods Installation Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bzDeYgfdckqgfqtc60OpNTAhUcOiu53LMa_qFJ5LWvI/preview#

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>>121096735
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This game is dead, DEAD!
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game is ded as always good night

FUCKING ASS RIP DFO
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I'm going to marry the Ultimate Diva!
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Ranked PVP queue times aren't anywhere near as bad as I thought they would be.

This is fun. 10 wins 2 losses so far.
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>>121217368
It's still the first day.

Oh, and be prepared to go 15-5 and still get placed at 500 RP because the matchmaking and the RP algorithm are fucked right now.
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I wanna go vagabond, am I in for disappointment?
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>>121218376
the game is pretty much dead so its all disappointing.
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>>121218376
Easy leveling but shitty endgame and shitty pvp.
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>>121218536
What's up with this meme? I have yet to beat a vagabond since all their attacks hit the entire screen and also grab.
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>>121217597
yeah seriously whats up with the RP placements?
I managed to get out of placement matches with like 16-4 and I got ranked with 300rp.
Meanwhile some guildie got like 14-6 and got 1k rp
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>>121218692
atleast you're not me
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I've been doing OV everyday since it was released and I STILL haven't finished my Chronicle set. Is this shit normal? At least I have my ebins to console me.
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>>121218909
yes
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>>121217239
Get in line buddy.
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>>121218909
Are you not blowing up your tainted pieces to a high reinforcement or at least +5? Are you grinding for a character that didn't get a free chron set piece? Are you eating all the frags instead of saving them up?
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>>121216703
A fresh screenshot

Best of luck to this thread then~
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>>121219180
turning dumb normies into memes is the worst dfog meme
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>>121219171
I've got three pieces of my set thanks to the event and Simona's quests, but I forgot about reinforcing the tainted gear for frags thanks. Tempted to just blow all my mileage on material pouches for the frags instead of demon invites though.
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>>121219286
>get GM or EB in arena

I like the free wins
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>>121218909
That is a complete lie. You could have bought the entire set with frag drops with how much time has passed now if you were really doing it every day.
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How are DTs for leveling compared to Fbrawlers?
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>>121219319
No, anon. You are the meme.
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>>121220000
I'm close enough, I'll admit I bought a Chron box without realizing that I bought the random gear instead of the set kind. But if I can get ONE FUCKING PIECE, than I can buy the rest.
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>use the free bind cube
>get a rare top
>mana burst

what the fug
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>>121216703
I'm going to marry Mintai!
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>>121220620
You know that you can sell those back to the shop for a full refund, right? It's in one of the tabs.
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>>121221041
what is that animal and why is it so ugly
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>>121221168
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>>121221162
Wait, before or after you open it? Fuck, this is why you don't play games in the early in the morning without sleeping for days.
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>dark skin
>white hair
Why are Thieves so anally fuckable?
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>People selling hell party tickets for less than they'd cost in challenges
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>>121222169
That's like asking why the sun shines. They just are.
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if you're under 800 rp at level 85 you're literally trash
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>>121223042
But why does it shine so brightly?
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>>121223149
not everyone plays an op class like you
also nipple fucked up and this thing cant calculate rp for shit
>14/20 wins
>100 rp
>12/20 wins
>1000 rp
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>>121223572
>level 51 elemental bomber
>op

are you retarded???
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God damn these network errors, I just want to play.
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>>121223651
found the newfag that doesn't know low level classes have their damage scaled way the fuck up
there's a reason one of the best pvp players back in nexon was a level 15 gunner

spoiler it wasn't because he was good
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>>121223841
are you a fucking idiot?

seriously.

have you actually fought someone that wasnt 85? do you know how the video game actually works? this isnt nexon retard
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>>121223902
>this isnt nexon
really?
could have fooled me with these prices
:^)

but nah it's much easier to do what you did with a 50 eb than an 85 one (lol)
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>Close match with M.Grap
>Dude is lagging, can't grab him to combo
>launch him as we're both at 5% life
>His connection starts flashing red and he zooms all over the place for 15 seconds until his jump cube is off cd which he uses to kill me from across the map

Almost as bad as the guys with korean names moving faster than their aspd, mspd allows
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How do I get good at getting lucky?
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>>121224927
E tier.

Won't be getting into any anton raid parties.
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>>121225267
korea's about to get more indra buffs so who knows~
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>>121224927
those are really shitty sets on a really shitty class
he isn't ready for raid at all
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Can you get 2nd awakening skills at Rare Avatar top?
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>>121225439
Unless they turn it into a full on DPS class or full on CC class, it still won't do shit.
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>>121224927
>+10 amped ebin sets
Go back in time and buy gold, or befriend a Nigerian prince.
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>>121226224
what's cc even stand for
thought it was crowd control but only classes with chain holds are called cc in korea so that's clearly not it
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>>121226626
That's one of the things the class needs to do to become useful. It's not good at anything right now. Either needs to completely shit out damage or have useful holds. It can't have both with how the class works or it would just get nerfed again in a month.
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>>121226626
crowd control
it's an older mmorpg term that got somehow carried over to mobas, and now people call slows, stuns, etc. in any game CC
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>>121223841
The game hasn't worked like that in years.
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>pvp battlemage first time
>half of matches are due to bad p2p
>chasers don't generate during bad p2p play
>combos drop due to no chasers

NEOOPPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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A complete rare set would cost you 150m and that's not even a Rare Clones.

What the fuck!? Is this No Poorfag Allowed?
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>>121230342
it already was no poorfag allowed before rares
it's probably going to get worse from here on out
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>>121230498
How about you m8, did you bother with rares as well?
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>>121230613
>see people get rares on their first cubes
>try it myself and get nothing
>log out
yes
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>>121230785
Did you remember to do ToD before you logged out?
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>>121230785
how many bind cubes did you use?
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>>121230785
There's like a 15% chance of getting a rare from a bind cube.

Even if you were one of the 15% who got lucky XD and got a rare on their first cube, you still have an entire rare set to get.

The system is rigged towards spending tons of money. Even if you got lucky with the first piece, you'll inevitably have to spend a couple hundred dollars to complete a set.
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>tos went down

what the fuck

am i supposed to play dfo instead (lol)?
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>>121230785
That's unfortunate, but are you going to buy them with gold or just fuck it.
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>>121231169
Don't ever let me see you ecks dee ever again. If you are making a joke.
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>>121231662
as if I can even afford them, i'm one of those people that aren't destined for greatness
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>>121231927
Same, I'll remain a casual scum and poorfag.

Such fate being a working class pleb.
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>>121231927
>>121232082
test your AH might
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>>121232728
can i become AH mighty man if I make use of my level 11 alchemist

im confused because i spent all my money getting it to level 11 now it costs more money to make the shit

PLEASE DONT TELL ME TO MAKE AN ALT OH GOD NO I CAN BARELY LEVEL MY MAIN [/SPOILER]
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>>121233063
>professions
>to make money

lol
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Enjoy the anime
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>>121233275
>>121233275
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>>121233275
133 W 2 L
He lost to a laggy asura.
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>wow this striker hits hard
>view info
>6 epics

lol
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>it's king's ruin again
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MIRIDIA IS STREAMING HIMSELF ATTEMPTING TO PLAY IN RANK PVP COME AND WATCH NOOWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!
MIRIDIA MIRIDIA MIRIDIA
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>>121235668
>0 viewers

fuck off miridia
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>>121235668
Didn't he say he was going to quit after losing the tournament
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>>121235668
Didn't he quit after getting destroyed in the tournament? Why can't he just fuck off forever already?
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>rp gets shit on so bad can't pvp
>quest is stuck on can't pvp character
>can't even do the daily event
>can't even get the "you tried" event medals
>everyone is fucking off to ranked to farm arena points

Minigames are dead, god bless nipple for removing the casul. Clearly this was planned for a skill cleansing. Please sever my hand tendons korean overlords.
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>>121235969
>>121235983
can't tell if samefag or ebin minds unite.
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>>121236097
the truth is now memes guys
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>>121236043
>hey guys who wants to play pvp with me to prepare for ranked?
>LOL MINIGAMES WHERES UR EBINS :DDD

serves you faggots right
you hate pvp anyway, don't you?
stay the fuck out, shitter
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>>121236696
Shut the FUCK up with your memes.
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>>121236696
You might need to calm down on the shitposting memes anon, you're completely indecipherable.
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Something inside of me dies whenever I fail my Liberation crafting.
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So, a complete Rare Avatar are around 140m?

This would locked out casual players from obtaining it unless they whale right?
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>>121233063
I mean just this, spend hours at a time just combing through items of value (stackability makes things a little easier) and keeping track of things like price variation by time of day or day of the week, and you'll find a lot of ways to make money, which will be making itself by this point. Even 1mil is enough starting capital. Doubling or farming 1mil is easy, and with increased gold comes increased market power.
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>>121237521
Wouldn't it make sense that casuals would be the ones to afford it though since most of them have jobs? Spending a hundred dollars on a game isn't much.
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>>121237594
I'm a poorfag though that makes $20 a week.
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>>121237594
Spending a hundred dollars on a game just to make a single one of your characters good enough is pretty overkill for most people.
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>>121237594
>>121237659
>>121237881

If I don't have140m for this shit, should I quit?
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>>121238014
be a hipster and don't buy it.
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>>121238014
Did you already spend your 140mil of a Lib weapon or something?
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>>121238061
>>121238058
but I want to be the very best like no one ever was
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are contender avas event stats?
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>>121238162
Then you sell the Lib weapon, because you can get better for most classes.
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>>121238162
>tfw used $200
>that money was supposed to be for a date with this qt grill
>date is tomorrow
>tfw no pussy tomorrow, dfo took over my soul
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>>121238061

You goddamn niggers should be worrying about getting good gear and weapon long before even caring about rare avatars. You're going to be one of those clowns with a full set of rares and a +10 growing weapon.
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>>121238519

was meant for >>121238014
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>>121238371
k going to kill myself
friend is poor and i blew my money on this game and now i won't be able to make a girlfriend either i hate my life jesus christ i hate this why did this game have to do this to me all i wanted was full rares and now i am going to loose a very special girl i am done with life going to kill myself bye
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>get pinky
>2x drop
>ran the same dungeon for a full bar and popped 4 fp potions and saw no boss unique

nice game
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>>121238725
did you think it was gonna rain uniques or what
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>>121238827
but they said for us to miss the chance
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>>121238725
2x a very low percent

So you're still gonna need some damn fine luck
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Get pinky?

More like

Get nothy
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>tos back online

thank god *logs off dfo*
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>>121239353
same
except i logged off within 3 mins of logging in
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Is it even worth attempting the PVP event on my F.Launcher or is she straight up unplayable-tier?
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>tosg
>1 post a minute or less
>dfog
>1 post every 15-30 mins
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>>121241382
when dfo started it was the same
come back in 7 months
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>>121241382
too busy playing and not waiting for invites (lol)
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>>121241490
nope
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>>121233645
>99 Consecutive Victories
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>tfw i can't afford full rares

kill me (lol)
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>open streams
>50 viewers pvp stream
>200rp player
(lol)
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>>121241382
>third most popular gook game in the world
>1 post every 30min
>indie game made by one tumblrfriend
>1 thread every 30min
nice anime imageboard
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>>121243847
shut up
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>play some tos
>alt tab back
>dfog = 8 new posts
>tosg = 180 new posts

pvp will save dfo (LOL)
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>>121244851
>alt tab back
now we all know that only poors without second monitor play tos (lol)
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I mean i gave pvp a month but it looks like its almost dead in a day.Just terrific.
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>>121246012
>event that lets you turbo two characters to 85 and get 1000 invites
>expecting people to pvp
baka senpai desu
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>>121246373
>baka senpai desu
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>Be Soul Bender main capped
>Using Possessed Flame for assist
>Moving into Berserker
>Already at Time Gate
>Still liquefying bosses with Bloody Twister/Dark Flame Sword
Fuck it I'm getting Arterial Spray
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>tfw can't even afford a single fucking rare

JUST
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>>121248668
im already rejecting people in ov without rares
poorfags need to know their place
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>MFW the daily PVP EXP potions are accountbound

I don't even have to PVP on my shitty underleveled and undergeared alts now.
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>>121245584
>needing a second monitor to jerk off to anime while you grind mindless pve shit

average pve neckbeard
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>>121249645
What a rude princess you are
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>PVP daily is subdue 2 F. Mages
>Get Male Slayers and Demon Slayers in every match

Nice Game
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>>121250285
Check in the morning, all I fought were witches.
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>>121250285
>tfw no male mages to subdue
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Why dont you, keks, play superior game instead of this trash?
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>>121251762
>being so bad at pvp that you have to shill another game
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>>121243847
But 40℅ of those threads are memes and waifuism.
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>>121251762
but i am
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>>121251762
>tos pvp manages to somehow be a bigger unbalanced mess than dfo's
that's very sad my friend
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Is Dynast Punch the worst 85 skill in the game? It feels very useless for what is supposed to be a damage skill.
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plebs running around in OV in rares without plat emblems

baka desu senpai
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>>121252227
i am not your friend, kid
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>>121252387
i am not a kid, pal
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>finally want to stop levelling alts and just get the current ones through ghent and time break
>this event happens

at least i'll have max explorer level
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Anyone has a list of the names for each avatar pieces?

1/2
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>>121253275

2/2
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>>121253275
There's a new category in the AH that makes them really easy to search.
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>>121253627
dang I havent seen it until you told me....

ty
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>>121253882
no worries, i worked at school and got used to speaking with retards
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http://www.dfonexus.com/threads/test-server-character-balance.8430/
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>>121251762
Because the gameplay looks boring
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>>121254606
back to reddit
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>>121251762
>why play wow clone number 999999 instead of a beat em up
gee I wonder, might as well play some CoD too
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>>121251762
Does it play like Y's? If not, that's a dealbreaker.
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>>121251762
Because I don't want to play a game where the sole gameplay element is grinding more levels if my progress in grinding those levels is just going to be reset.
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>fighting multiple rangers on my mech and ele
>"how does it feel to have no skill"

kek
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>>121251762
Polyphia stop being a kek lmao
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https://youtu.be/REglyVt-u3Y
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>>121255927
Grapplers get their own version of muscle shift?
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get off dfo yurop you laggy fucks
>>
Has anyone else been getting disconnected from the network and not being able to join channels ever since the November 3rd patch dropped?
>>
>tfw mspit will be shit at minigames and pve forever
>>
gauntlets for grappler right?
>>
>>121257429

who knows, a lot of garbage classes shot up to top tier after a balance change

tier lists aren't permanent and they'll change, one day mspit may be top.
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If I'm planning on changing class later, should I get growing gear for that class, or for the class I'm leveling through?
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>the difference between PvPing in full Chrons and PvPing in full Epics is 12% more survivability against non-elemental enemies, 30% against elemental enemies
>timmy with his mom's credit card has an innate, massive advantage against me just for wearing epics
>his evasion rate is slightly higher, and his hitrate is also higher. His movement speed is a whole FIVE percentage points higher.
>his strength is about 50-70 points higher, his physical attack is a good 3% higher, and his elemental damage is 30% higher from his 85 Epic than an 80 Unique, all of which adds up to about a 10% increase in damage. His attack speed is also 3 percentage points higher than mine

Timmy in full Epics gets 30% more survivability (or 12% more if I don't have inflict on). Timmy deals 10% more damage than me, meaning I effectively have .91% of my survivability. The difference in our effective HPs is therefore 123% if I don't do element, 143% if I do do element.

In other words, solely because of his gear, I have to hit Timmy either 1.23 or 1.43 times as much than he has to hit me. If it takes 5 "combo opportunities" for Timmy to kill me, it takes me 6 or 7 to kill him.

>pvp is t-totally balanced, you guys! t-that's just against full epics! and you're using chrons!
It's still a difference facing a guy in full Legacy when you're using full rares - about 10-20% instead of 22-42%.

PvP sucks. Goldbuyers definitely have the advantage. I haven't even gone into how reinforcement affects things, but you want everything at +10, that's for sure. It's probably easily another 10% on top of everything else.
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>>121258491
don't forget rares for additional hit recovery and even more speed
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>a level 70 mnen does more damage and takes less damage than a level 85 witch
????
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>>121258396
help
also does class changing affect Transcendence weapons?
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>>121258396
Growing gear only grows until level 75. If you intend to do OV or buy another weapon, just use it for the class you're leveling as.
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>>121258676
It's that Super Saiyan Swagger
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>want to level up ticket at 15
>worried about how that'll affect my advancement
awawawa
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>>121260131
it doesn't
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>person completely stomps on you
>says gg
yeah man epic game, it was so great xD
>>
>>121260131
Subclassing past level 15 no longer negatively affects your stats. Your stats will update when you subclass.
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>log in
>todes
>win once
>collect pots
>solo loli
>log out
>log in tos
>play all day

nice game losers
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>>121260313
git gud scrub :^)
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>>121260313
gg stands for get good you retard
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is Tessa pvping?
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I want to enjoy pvp, but I'm constantly reminded of how I will never have ebins.
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>>121261880
>Wearing Plate Pants on WM in PVP
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>>121262154
But if I'm heavy, they can't combo me (lol)
>>
>if i win and get 1300 rp, i get matched with some grap who kills me
>go back down to 1290 rp, and get matched with a zerk who i kill and get back to 1300
>then i get matched with the grap again who brings me back down to 1290
>cycle repeats indefinitely

impressive game desu
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>>121263478
this is how rp is supposed to work, GIT GUT GIT GUD
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>>121263881
>fight the same 2 people

alive game
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>>121263935
Which part of git gud did you not understand? Go beat that grap desu
>>
>can't stack the exp pots you get from ranked

(lol)
>>
>want to make a minigame character
>only functional classes under any kind of lag are gunners, mages and mbrawler
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>>121265094
oh shit someone figured it out
>>
pvp is so pay2win
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>>121265959
>playing pvp for more than 1 win for the event when you aren't decked out in ebins and rares

are you a c u c k
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>>121265959
anyone can win, epic dont give you any advantage (lol)
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>>121265959
>being a literal kek
baka desu
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>>121265959
skill comes from skill
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>>121266113
This is bait.
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>>121266304
any proof to back it up, kid?
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>>121266094
>getting to play pvp because the game didn't boot you out for sucking so bad

pretty sure your the kek desu senpai
>>
pretty sure pvp just killed dfo

these threads are deader than ever
>>
>>121267210
Nah, Im busy farming my BiS instead of playing
>minigames
>>
>spend $50
>only get two rare pieces

nice game nipples..
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>>121246438
>being this new
fyi imo baka desu senpai
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>>121246438
>this new

baka go back to nexus desu
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>>121251958
>male >mage >f.mages >nipple daughter
>asura mains >kpin >texas
>nfa >neet >keks
>tastybutts >ded game >muh minigame
>summoners >found the shitter not getting into anton
>tessa >amaretto >eriri >procy >chata >broseph >miridia >tfw no gf >fujo sluts >:\ >b-b-b-but >y ele ware plate
>erp >skype shows >tiaramisu >polyphia >nexus >gb2 le reddit XD >ded thread >desu baka >shills >where muh ebins
do you even know where you're coming from?
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>>121251762
Is it a beat 'em up?
I got into DFO because it's a beat 'em up, one of my favorite genres. Not because it's yet another gook MMO.
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>>121269258
yes it is a beat em off i hope you enjoy your stay
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>>121269295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HpAJkF8ki4

Looks like another Diablo-esque MMO.
No thanks. Call me when you get (s)Tree(ts) of Rage.
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>>121269523
i was hoping that would get rid of you PoS shills
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>>121267362
>not just farming your ranger rod while pvp
(lol)
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>>121269604
I'd appreciate it if you stop replying to my posts Chata and OV/Requiem with me already
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>>121269724
>///ヮ///< is this a d-date??
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>>121218785
I don't even know what this means yet its been there for a bit now.
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>>121269832
>>
>>121269832
make sure you wear your cutest pantsu senpai
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Who /pvp/ here?
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>>121251762
This is one of those games that aren't really games. Has nice music though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_PSm-R-vUY
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>>121270873
That cropping. Why.
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>>121271059
more of a game than dfo
>>
>earlygame witch with tacitcian's contract
now i have even less of an idea of what to use
>>
>>121271059
That looks like a babby Y's boss. But yeah, the music is great.
>>
>>121272315
it's old, and it's one of the first bosses.

most of the bosses are easy anyway, it's a grind game
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>>121270873
You're losing on purpose right?
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>>121272009
furnace

it's always furnace
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>arena lobby bug is still there

cost me about 6 matches since people easily realize that my right side is blocked off by it
>>
>>121273416
>tfw mech
>tfw standing on the right side always
>>
>win half my qualifying matches
>75 rp
nice game
>>
So, what's more annoying in minigame?
Mechs/Summs
Any FSlayer Fag
or Rangers with their unbreakable flow chart?
>>
if you're a witch without ancient library, you can fuck off
>m-muh fun!
play with an ele without transcendence runes and then talk about fun
>>
>>121275175
>caring about flat int buffs when saders exist
found the shitter not getting into anton
>>
>>121274635
>win 3 games
>205 rp
>>
>Just got matched up with someone who had 400 more rp than me
Why neople?
>>
>>121277519
Feels like im on /lolg/ now
git gud faggot
>>
>not even one day in and minigame is a ghost town, waiting minutes at a time for one match

ranked pvp saved dfo
>>
what should my 1+1 characters be
>>
>>121275175
If you want to get technical about shitposting "muh fun" would be maxing library for more mp to use skills, while having all attack skills at level 1 for wikkid sik combos
>>
>>121278526
both
male
mage
s
>>
>>121278458
90% of the people who wanted to play are probably banned.

Also there's basically no actual reason to do it. We haven't seen the rewards you can get with the points, the event for some ungodly reason is 1 win/day, meaning that it's going to take 3/10 days to get anything out of it, and that it barely requires any time investment.

The only reason people would PvP at this point is because that's what they were doing before the update.
>>
>>121279994
even though the event daily is limited to once per day, you can still farm your pvp stuff for when the shop comes
also exp level
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>>121279994
This, can't pvp on the character I wanted to so now I'm stuck pvping with underleveled (thus undergeared) alts just to participate in the event.
>>
>>121280226
>for when the shop comes
Yeah, I'm sure a ton of people want to farm a bunch of points for the shop. Especially since we don't know when it's getting added. Or its prices. Or what exactly is in it. People love doing that sort of thing!

and exp level is just bragging rights rewards that only matters to pvpers in the first place because they desperately need people to know that they pvp.
>>
>>121280498
>Especially since we don't know when it's getting added. Or its prices. Or what exactly is in it.
i'll take an educated guess and say either next week or in 2 weeks
yes we all know what's in it and how much it costs, which is why we grind for it
you can stay uninformed however until someone spoonfeeds you and start farming your +skill parts 2 weeks later, no problem
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>>121280838
>i'll take an educated guess and say either next week or in 2 weeks
LOL
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>The 500 Demon Invitation box for reaching 85 is a permanent feature in other versions
>Neople makes it a temporary event for DFOG
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>>121284089
I mean to say the Box being Accountbound is a permanent feature
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>>121284089
UNIQUE
EXPERIENCE
>>
>>121284089
no it's not
you get 500 invitations for hitting 85
that's permanent and we have it

the box of 500 is bind to account and is given on top of the 500 untradeable invites we get for hitting 85 as part of the event
so you get 1000 right now

but hey
/dfog/ in charge of knowing what happens when you hit 85
>>
>got my two link characters to 30 today
progress? i want to see if i'm at a good pace
>>
>>121284089
>not knowing that we already get 500 demon invites for hitting 85
>not knowing that the other 500 is from the event
>not wanting 1k demon invites
>these are the people we play dfo with
everytime.
>>
>>121284356
I meant to say the box itself being accountbound is a permanent feature in other versions but I fucked up the post
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>>121284642
>get 10 free hell runs every day with korean neopremium
>get 2000 invites 3 times per week from clearing anton
>level a trash alt to 85 in one week because lol exp reworks and get 500 invites for your main, at two new characters a day that's 1000 invites every few days

no wonder the gooks run hell modes for months on end
they probably get more hell modes than they can run with their fp without spending any gold
>>
>>121284290
This looks "inconsistant".
>>
>>121284950
You forgot the free hell mode from Mirror Arad too.
>>
>>121265094
Witch and definitely battlemage are not good with lag, though. It's really tough to scrub people in lag, and witch has poor zoning compared to elementalist.
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who /ultimatediva/ here???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMAb9tWsZKI
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>>121286453
>witch
>poor zoning

LOL
>>
>>121286648
Lava and rain cover a good area, but they're no flame pillar.
>>
>>121284290
:^D
>>
>>121280838
>you can stay uninformed however until someone spoonfeeds you and start farming your +skill parts 2 weeks later, no problem
I got banned from ranked, that's why I'm not doing it every day. It's the only damn fresh content we've had in months, of course I'd do it.

I've searched for the ranked rewards, google, nexus, reddit, what have you. I haven't ever found them.
>>
>>121216703
Is it superior-superior day yet?
>>
>>121288319
It is in your heart
>>
>>121288319
was like 3 days ago
>>
>over 2 mil for a low level pink
am i finally playing the market
>>
>>121288646
thanks for telling me...
>>
>>121289025
>pulled an ancient ruins bronze sword from lt
>sold it for 2mil
lel at retards buying level 65 weapons in 85 cap
>>
>>121289586
are you retarded

do you know what buff swapping is
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>>121289586
>>
>>121289586
i'm talking about this
>>
>>121290628
That's pretty good for battlemage.
>>
>>121290112
you can't buff swap anything on that sword (lol)

are you one of those asuras that thinks wave brand can be buff swapped?
>>
>>121291023
bremen my good shitposting man
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>>121291254
you can't swap bremen (lol)
>>
>>121291438
do you even know how soulbender plays
or are you just a typical /dfog/ shitposter
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>>121291624
how does a soul bender buff swap???
either you're not >>121290112 or you're backpedalling super hard (lol)
>>
>>121291792
i am not that guy
i know you're trying to save face by focusing on the buffswap part, but that doesn't change the fact it's worth a fuckton despite being a low level unique
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>>121291978
you seem to have fallen into my ruse
>>
Which one is worse summFag or Dank Knight?
>>
>>121292528
jungcena
>>
>tfw you beat jungjam and he starts crying about lag
ching chong
>>
>>121292775
>Jung "lol just started lagging randomly when you caught me" jam
>>
>>121292775
if you beat jungjam you probably were lagging desu senpai
>>
>delete character i was to abandon to use name
>use name change ticket
>name is taken

I hate Neople.
>>
>>121293067
You were supposed to change the name on that character and then change the name on the character you wanted the name on. Deleting a character makes their name unusable for 30 days.

You fucked up.
>>
>>121292945
>if
go check his record senpai
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>>121293274
kinda doubt that you're the asura that beat him, kpin
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Game is alive!
>>
>>121294329
whos that qt
>>
>>121297021
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Clownpiece
>>
>todes floor 92
Just can't do it with my mech. Just tried leap, but no matter how well I time jumping he just crescents me as I land.
>>
>Getting a Cube Contract out of the Play DFO event boxes will crash your game

How have they not fucking fixed this?
>>
>>121297541
I've gotten cube contracts from it without crashing.

I wonder why some people crash though.
>>
>>121297541
And here I was thinking they fixed it since I didn't crash when I got one yesterday. I guess it was just a fluke.
>>
>finally unlocking white tiger
>>
>>121298260
you don't even need white tiger when leveling

lightning amulet into rising emblem and holy amulet destroys most mobs with the multihits

and then you use phoenix amulet when lightning amulet is on CD

throw in black doge on bosses with shikigami and you're good
>>
>>121297541
>various chron item name bugs since release
You tell me.
>>
>>121298260
>0 points in ching chong circle of grouping
>0 points on bigass weapon mastery
JUST
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>>121298260
Thats good but honestly your other skills already give you so much damage for general levelling. You probably won't be using it much outside of the protect the priests in fanatics and boss rooms in general
>>
So bored of mgrappler. I need something fun to play that will make me keep playnig this game.
>>
>>121299825
suju inferno
>>
>>121299825
Download kdnf and make a mgrappler
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>>121298474
>black doge
you mean tortoise?
>>121298527
better?
>>121298670
i figured so but i thought "wow fun time now"
>>
>>121291792
>put bronze sword on
>drop circles
>swap to damage weapon
>use % skills
do you even soulbender?
>>
>>121301179
>>use % skills
>do you even soulbender?

you clearly don't
>>
>>121302094
skills with slash,phantom and saya in their names are percent
>>
Am I the only one here who can't afford these fucking rares?
>>
>tfw leveling up an alt I care about linked with a fmech I'll never play just for sick double mech drop assist on my main, superior mmech
>>
>>121297461
Is that the Soulbender Baron? Do not stand in front of him, ever or you will get destroyed. Hug the shit out of his y-axis
>>
>>121303493
Yeah. I'll try that next time, I kept trying to get him to stick on my vipers even though he pretty much ignores summons.
>>
Congratulations on your 70th poster, dfo general!
>>
>>121302575
Nope. I can't afford to buy cubes and avatars with real cash, and I don't even have 10m gold.
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>>121304045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49Gz0Jfp-jI
>>
>trying to pvp as a melee class without attack speed avatars
>trying to pvp as a magic class without cast speed avatars
>>
>>121305106
stupid stinky girl
>>
>>121305106
>be mexo
>cast chakra
>+110% cast speed
easy
>>
rate rogue classes by how broken they are in kdnf pvp. from what i hear they're all broken except for kuno. but which one is more broken than others?
>>
>>121306236
>rogue classes

Every time
>>
>>121306452
thief classes baka
>>
alive game

alive thread

great job neople
>>
>>121306236
>exept for kuno
baka baka desu
>>
>>121306981
Ranked PvP saved this game.

Thanks Neople!
>>
>>121307626
People are too busy playing Ranked PVP to post :^)
>>
>captain mode
>estimated wait time: 68 sec
That's sad.
>>
>>121307858
what's the matter
too scared to go 1on1 where you can't blame anyone else?
noob
>>
>>121308115
I want to have fun.
>>
>>121308170
practice arena is that way >>>
>>
>>121302575
>>121304247
The amount of salt I have are immeasurable, I can't whale for bind cubes or pay every piece of that goddamn rares for gold.

I guess no Anton for me. :^(
>>
Did everyone without epics quit pvp? Cause all I'm matching against are people with 3+ epics including weapon
>>
>Buy 100 3x legacy pots
>fucking magic seals are rare from them, legacies nonexistent.

And I can't even ranked pvp anymore because it bans you for sucking

At least the 1+1 event is pretty great.
>>
>>121308951
Yep. Ranked PVP is totally saving DFO, though!
>>
>have to be careful what I do and have very limited potential combos
>asura can literally faceroll for combos from afar
nice
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>>121308951
>everyone waiting for the ebin boys to go straight to high rp
>basically means nobody in the arena except the ebin boys fighting themselves and hovering around the same rp
>some poorgeared fag checks if the ebiners are gone
>gets matched with an ebiner
>loses and waits for the ebin boys to go to high rp
>cycle continues
>nobody in ranked pvp
>even the ebin boys stop playing ranked and just shit around in practice arena

ebin
>>
>>121310338
Asuras are easy

SBs running through your attacks with their 5 second invul is bullshit
>>
>>121310338
stop standing in front of them you downie
>>
>>121310338
>asura freezes lunatic adenbain boss and kills him
OMG ASURA SO OP NOOBCLASS

>asura throws a random ghost orb in pvp and you run into it
OMG ASURA SO OP NOOBCLASS

i literally have 100% winrate against asuras so far, they are complete shit most of the time
>>
>>121310903
How do I attack them then?
>>
>>121309319
>Buy 100 3x legacy pots
No.
No.
>>
>>121310986
y axis?
asura literally can't do shit if you're above or below them
their only y axis move is wave rad and it has like 20s cd
once you bait or super armor through wave rad you're basically fighting an unsubclassed slayer
>>
>>121311019
>dump my 50m for level 80 x3 legacy pots
>got nothing but cancer and not a single legacy in sight

I should call the suicide hotline now.
>>
>>121311206
>use flame circle at the same time asura uses wave rad
>my multihits make his sa last longer
>since my afterdelay frames take longer to recover from, he punishes me first

sweet pvp game broseph
>>
>>121311206
>once you bait or super armor through wave rad you're basically fighting an unsubclassed slayer
i laughed
it's so fucking true lmao
you can even watch them panic and throw shit everywhere but where you are standing
>>
>>121311394
>having trouble vs asura on eb
you can kill them with just your x attack m8
easiest matchup in the world

>how do i hit a class from y axis when i have the x attack with the strongest y axis homing in the game :(((((
>>
>>121311535
>asura knows he will die to x spam
>he gets close on purpose
>he knows the only defense you have is flame circle because he will run away and counter you from behind if you tried casting lightning wall
>he uses wave radiation
>you use flame circle
>he punishes you because multi hits means his sa lasts longer

nice game
>>
>>121311224
>50m
>could have bought and opened an ebin pot

pls stahp anon
if u die, dfog will only get deader
>>
>>121311763
>male
>mage
>player too stupid to know he has teleport

don't quit your pve job just yet
>>
>>121311828
>get cornered
>asura spamming shit to make sure i won't leave
>teleport
>he runs up and wave rads

epic counterplay desu
>>
>>121311763
how exactly is he getting close to you if you're mashing x and everything in front of you is a dead zone

asura has no ways to just super armor through your x barrage

their only possible approach if you're just standing there spamming x is to cast leap and hope they're in range to ashe fork you on the way down, which is piss easy to bait and punish
>>
>>121312062
>super armor through your x barrage
????
>jumping
?????????

have you even seen an asura in full rares and ebins just running around?

the balls will literally never catch up to him and he can run to your y axis with ease

inb4
>o-oh i didn't mean a fully geared asura i meant the ones in normal clones and magic seals :^(
>>
>>121312212
sounds like you're the asura here
try shooting in their direction instead of away from them next time
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>dfog thinking asura is good pvp
>>
>>121312356
seriously
i thought the
male
mage
keks that posted here at least knew how to pvp
losing to an asura is just so sad baka
>>
>>121312356
/dfog/ flowchart

>did i get beaten in pvp?

yes
>OP class i had no chance
>lag i had no chance
>his gear gave him 0.3% more movepeed i had no chance

no
>pure skill
>my class is the weakest
>wasn't even trying
>jump, -exit-
>>
>>121312713
you forgot if they had full ebins
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elementalist>eb
>>
>>121312713
>his gear gave him 0.3% more movepeed i had no chance
You joke, but movespeed is actually really important in PvP, and the difference between the guys using Chrons and the guys using Epics is about 5%. I can feel a noticeable boost in speed going from a 2% speed title to 4% Romanticist, a 5% increase just from wearing better armor is crazy.
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>see that a class benefits a lot from some legendaries
>not a single one in the AH
>>
>>121313340
would you mind telling me what legendary is that?
>>
>>121313550
Kurgiv neck rip
>>
senpai
>>
Congratulations on your 71st unique poster /dfog/!
>>
imo desu
>>
Chata please be my gf already, I have tons of Ele items for you
>>
>>121316215
send them and ill consider it (lol)
>>
>>121316402
shut the fuck up
>>
Bets on rare avatar prices going down as people complete their sets, or going up as less people are rolling for them?
>>
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>>121318489
No
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How good is Glacial Master at PvE. any tips for my first time playing one?
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>>121320278
lmao
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>>121319350
They will crash.
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mage shitters itt
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>>121302575
You know that Stafford loan isn't gonna spend itself
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>>121320732
why does she(?) look like she(?)'s about to cry
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>just bought a pet for 8mil
>savings was 19mil
is this what desperation feels like
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>>121320732
is that miridia?
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>>121320732
>broseph.jpg
lmoa
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Just how dead is the game now? I quit in September.
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>>121320732
Is this Tessa?
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>>121321257
>tessa is a white girl
nice meme
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>>121321371
What? Don't tell me she's an asian slut as well.
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>>121320278
Safe but slow, you'll rarely be low on any resource but your clear times are noticeably below average. As for general hints? Grand shatter at melee(ish) range and windmill spears on top of people will, outside of RWP, be your main damage source.
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half hour bump
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ded game

was nice to have another chance to play dfo
anyone moving to cdnf?
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>>121325381
cdnf is the only version worse than dfog desu
only way id play dfo again would be with a dnf account at this point
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>>121325381
i'm moving to tos for a better gook mmo experience
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>>121325618
cdnf will never die because of all the players though

>>121325648
;^)
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What happened to the Rare Avatar salt and rage?

Did everyone moved on with unique experience?
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>>121327060
All the whales who complained bought them anyways. Everyone else has no choice but to deal with it or quit.
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>14 placement matches won
>189RP

Am I being nipple'd?
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>>121327235
Wow, sasuga NEOPLE.

If I'm going to buy a complete Rare set not the clones, how much will it cost me? 70m?
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>>121327413
i love these posts
just like in league of legends
I DONT BELONG IN BRONZE I SWEAR
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>>121327413
rp is much lower overall in unique experience fighter online ranked minigames beta

the upper crust of kdnf sits in 2.2k+, while the upper crust of dfog sits at around 1.6k+. they literally cannot go higher because there's no competition at that level. everyone else is around 1k rp which is the "average".
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>>121327478
I won 13 and lost 7 and placed 100something rp. My friend won 12 and lost 8 and placed over 1000 rp. I have no idea where I really belong in the ratings, but it sure looks weird to me.
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>>121327807
do you believe that every win and every loss count the same and all that matters is your win/loss ratio?
if yes, that alone is reason enough to give you negative RP
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>>121328229
well meme'd friend
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>>121327439
it's 25-35 mil per rare piece

30-55 mil per rare clone piece
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>>121328615
>i have never seen a single ranking system in my life before
get fucked broseph
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>>121328827
here's your (You) ;)
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>>121328765
>witch has tits

Does that mean she is legal already?
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>>121329082
so tell me how does a retard perceive the system?
0/20 = 0 RP
10/20 = 1000 RP
20/20 = 2000 RP
?
you're a fucking joke lmao
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How long until Neople fixes the ranked ui not going away if your opponent is in a different channel?
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>>121329343
Witch is always drawn with huge tits, same with the new Geniewiz art.

These are from a webcomic.
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>>121329362
>m-muh nipple can do no wrong, only 10 people, please be grateful dfo is back, if you don't like it just not play it
please stop, this is painful to see
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>>121329614
there are bugs in this game, the UI bug being one of them, but you being shit at pvp is not one of them
i hope you drop even lower so it bans you outright, then you can really go cry about bugs
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>>121329728
>i hope less people play this game so it does faster
lmoa
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>>121329827
get fucked broseph
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I finally hit lvl cap for the first time on my WM and am curious about what I should be doing next as a poverty WM. I have about 30M saved up along with a +12 lvl 80+ SS Magic Sealed. Running Hell mode isn't going to be consistent atm so figure I should focus on other things first. Some of the things I've read include Iron Strike Stacking and OV grinding for relevant sets, however I'm not entirely sure which specific set would be most suiting.

Basically I'd like to know how exactly I should be gearing up with my available funds and what OV set I should focus on.
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>>121330146
https://www.reddit.com/r/DFO/comments/3be22o/bis_ov_gearlist_and_clearing_misinformation/
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>>121330146
farm ov, farm ancients for gracia
your class is really fucking weak so you fucked yourself over by having no money, enjoy being a worthless piece of shit
if you get a good zanbato (epic) use 9 tsw
if you get a good ss (epic) use 9 space lord or clash taints/clash chrons
if you get a good ls (epic, requiem/lib) use 6 osc + 3 tsw to abuse the range bug

no matter what you do you are fucking weak compared to what other classes could do with your gear
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>>121330146
>WM

enjoy being supportkek in endgame
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>>121330410
lol
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>>121329362
The ranking system has serious issues, man. I don't care how shitty everyone you played was, you should NOT be put at sub-500 RP. Maybe if you lost 18 matches, you'd have the privilege of getting that low or lower, but there are people getting 8+ wins and getting placed in 300-. There are serious problems there.
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when will neople fix the broken RP system
i got placed low but i deserve a higher rank i even watched jungjam play once on youtube!!
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>>121331075
try there are people losing all their matches ending up at 1000+ and people winning most of them ending up at 5 lmoa

b-but you j-just don't understand
n-nipple can do n-no wrong
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>>121331439
>people losing all their matches ending up at 1000+
citation needed
this literally did not happen
>people winning most of them ending up at 5
that's also a stretch but this is related to a display bug where it doesn't show the 1 before the RP
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>>121331657
yeah nah
your rp isn't missing a 1 in front of it
get fucked broseph
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Daily reminder that resurrection potions are unlimited use and to use them in ov if you suck ass.
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>>121331657

I won 8 of my matches and ended up at 11 RP.

11. That's not a display bug. That's my actual RP. 11. It's banning me from playing more ranked. Do you know how low 11 points is in a ranking system? That's like 1/10000 material. a 40% winrate is not 1/10000.
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>>121331797
I don't money
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>>121328229
>>121329362
>>121331367
>>121331762
There actually is something wrong with the way the rankings are calculated.
During the first day I've fought people like Lacari and GTSK at around 400RP~. Meanwhile this huge whiner in my guild is sitting at 1200RP, with MUCH less games won and played. He's currently down to 1000RP which should tell you something.
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>>121331894
wow you must be really bad (lol)
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>>121332038
kek ur a kek lol desu senpai baka (filters)
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>>121238609
...anons dead body was found the next day,
nobody on /dfog/ gave a shit.
Look what you did guys.
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>>121332978
killing yourself is basically the only way to play dfo
get it
cause it's dead
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>>121330410
>no matter what you do you are fucking weak compared to what other classes could do with your gear

With a Mana Cataclysm, +12 Balmung, and whatever other epic piece necessary, how many classes will still outperform me?
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>>121332017
>Fights GTSK
>Doesn't bother to zone or predict approaches
>Just blunt force approaches spamming every SA available to trade
>Way too predictable
>People saying he's good
Don't do this to me.

Don't tell me this is what people do in fighting games.
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>>121333520
ranger syndrome kek
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hey guys what if my necro gets a +99 ranger rod???
who can outperform me???
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>>121333648
If I'm being delusional then clue me in. That anon said "no matter what you do" and I'm want to know how many classes actually outperform an extremely geared WM if they have the same gear.

He's making it seem like even with godly gear WM is still shit tier compared to a whole bunch of classes, when in reality I bet it's probably only a handful.
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>>121333520
Participant ranking
1.saint(25 percent of total population, 1 for each party)
2.dark lord
3.omniblade
4.witch
5.overmind
6.eclipse
7.nemesis, storm trooper(tie)
9.majesty
10.exorcist(mag+phy)

dunno what that guy is smoking desu, wm is basically a physical soul bender that has cc and dps
the 4man raid sell party was broken up into 3 parties, solo exo, wm + sader and solo elem
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>>121329362
>>121331075
I got 576 for perfect 20 losses.
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>>121333107
That's it, I figured it out.
We're all dead irl /dfog/,
We have been dead since the day we started playing but just didn't accept it yet.
This game is our tombstone.
We will be dead until our soul departs from this horrid world.
May everyone rest in peace.
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>>121333520
every good dps class that already outperformed you easily before
launcher ele summoner mexo mbrawl mgrap etc. etc. etc.
no you are not suddenly naruto, you go from supportkek only to viable dps choice because you deal respectable sustain dps with SST and debuff/hold at the same time

this retarded MUH SCALING meme needs to die
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If my Ele wear an epic plate, who can outperform me??!?!?
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>>121333520
>With a Mana Cataclysm, +12 Balmung, and whatever other epic piece necessary, how many classes will still outperform me?
With the same tier of gear? Everyone.
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>>121333856
right now you are shit no matter what
you need reworks to become decent, with gear
you are one of the best supports and that's wm's primary role
if you wanna jerk off to becoming a cool anime hero if you work hard enough go do it in real life and stop thinking powerful classes suddenly get weak while you, a weak class, suddenly get super strong
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>>121333520
Even if you have those, you will never become Uchiha Madara in an instant, you will stay forever as a shitty pocket support fuccboi

If you want to become like Madara, play a real class like Ranger.
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>>121334428
the edge is fucking real.
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>>121334428
i'm starting to think that wm's are like mini rangers
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>>121334428
>30k town attack
damn dfog, step it up
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>>121333942
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>>121334428
>30K TOWN STATS CLUB


LOL DFOG EAT SHIT
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>>121332091
no
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>>121334140
>>121334428
Alright, I concede the point then. So my ultimate goal is to be solid support, and on the side work towards dealing reasonable DPS? Whatever, WM would be broken if it could deal damage as well as it supports, so it's fine. In fact, of all the support classes how many also hit harder than WM in addition to giving support as well if not better?

Also

>anime hero
>Madara
>that faggot ass edgy character

Dante and Vergil are the inspiration here, fuck off with that gay ass weeb shit.
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>>121334991
>Dante and Vergil are the inspiration here
ok i'm done here
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>>121334991
>Dante & Vergil

See>>>121334548
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>>121334991
>not wanting to be xXxKirit0xXx

LOL I BET YOU SEEK PARTY ALWAYS FAG
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>>121335059
>>121335128
Dante and Vergil aren't edgy tryhard faggots, they're legit swordsmen with class and style. It's everyone else like that gary stu SAO faggot who are the posers.
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>>121334991
We're the same
You and I
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when does pvp become fun?
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>>121335435
when you
git gud__________
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>>121334991
>I was inspired by Dante and Vergil's fast, fluid, complex combat style with tons of flair and fireworks
>So I made the most boring, simple class in the game

PS every other support character outdamages you if they spec for damage instead of being useful
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>>121335375
>Uchiha
Naruto is shit and literally none of them are actually Ninjas. The person who named that character is clearly a faggot.

DMC1, 3, and 4:SE Vergil are legit.

>>121335536
>Instead of being useful

Like I said, how many of them can still support as well or better than WM while also shitting out better damage?
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>>121335632
none
weapon master power is maximum
solo anton raid easy
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>>121335632
You don't seem to understand

WM doesn't support AND do mediocre damage

WM supports OR does mediocre damage
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dunno who's dumber
the guy asking dfog about anton
or the dfog posters taking obvious bait
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>>121335435
After getting your bis ebin weapon and at least three pieces of ebin armor.
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>>121334015
Why Elementalist wear lingerie?
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>>121335784
>support OR mediocre damage
Then explain
>>121333995
>respectable sustain dps with SST and debuff/hold at the same time

One of you is speaking sense, and the other is being a faggot, which is it?
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Hey guess what? RP was actually bugged. Everyone who had barely any should go check theirs again, I went from 100 something to 1000 something without playing any matches.
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>>121337123
okay can you stop this bullshit now
wm is not the strongest dps class in the game, that's all you wanted to hear
it's getting really annoying to hear newshits that can't even farm a fucking chron set talk about how they will perform in bis epic gear
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>>121337305
nah it was working fine before you just don't understand rp
nipple can do no wrong
le get fucked broseph xD
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>>121337353
>wm is not the strongest dps class in the game

Read
>>121334991
>Alright, I concede the point then. So my ultimate goal is to be solid support, and on the side work towards dealing reasonable DPS? Whatever, WM would be broken if it could deal damage as well as it supports, so it's fine. In fact, of all the support classes how many also hit harder than WM in addition to giving support as well if not better?

and
>>121335632
>Like I said, how many of them can still support as well or better than WM while also shitting out better damage?

Pay attention, I've already conceded the point on WM being best DPS because his role is solid support and he'd be broken if he also did great damage. But what I want to know is how many support classes support as well as he does while doing better damage than him as well.

Then you are another anon said he only supports OR does mediocre damage, despite a previous anon stating the direct opposite. I just want to know who's telling the truth and who's being an absolute faggot.
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>>121337643
how about you fuck off
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>>121337895
>I have no argument
So what you're saying is that there in fact aren't many, if any, other classes that support as well as WM does while also hitting harder?

Then why be a spiteful faggot in the first place and give false information?
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>>121338114
no, i'm saying you should fuck off
are you illiterate?
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>>121338114
YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ENOUGH ABOUT DFO AND ANTON TO ASK THIS SHIT
it's very obvious and annoying
crusader is the buff support, soul bender is magic debuff, witch is phys debuff
wm is a worse phys debuff
once witch nerfs come wm will take witchs place as phys debuff

now shut the fuck up you will quit this game before you even have a 6pc anyway, what a colossal waste of time
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guys i just hit 85 on asura but i want to know how many classes are better across the board once i have full mana vortex, greed accessory set and a +15 amped arges???

you know, the milestone i won't play long enough to get and arguably nobody else will because the game will shut down before we even get anton

also what chron set should i get???

i played my class to 85 but i don't know what skills i actually use or what their names are
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>>121338338
This doesn't refute my point made here >>121338114

If anything you just confirmed that WM's roll of phys support is only currently outdone by witch, who can also hit harder than him. But there isn't this list of support classes who can perform WM's roll while also hitting harder, which another anon falsely implied before.

So of all classes in the game WM's top 5 support, and top phys debuff after witch nerf while hitting harder than anyone else who supports and/or performs this roll, right? Even if Crusader and Soul Bender hit harder than WM with comparable BiS gear, that's still only 2 other classes of all the rest in the game, vs this vast list of other support classes an anon previously implied can support while still hitting harder.

You faggots made it sound like WM's this piece of shit.
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I ran out of tokens doing the Black Dragon Tournament.

Please shit on my face because I'm clearly so bad I can't stop the one hit kill mechanics.
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>>121339463
and then you realize this is for content we don't have, for gear nobody has, with reworks we don't have and with time+money YOU don't have
aka completely irrelevant for anything you will ever do in dfo
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>>121339463
you're fucking retarded if you think you'll be able to support AND DPS at the same time

it's one or the other depending on the chrons you have, or epics if you plan on DPS
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>>121339774
Irrelevant.

>>121339860
Another anon previously addressed this point though >>121333995

>viable dps choice because you deal respectable sustain dps with SST and debuff/hold at the same time

>at the same time

Apparently a geared WM can do both support (phys debuff) and reasonable/passable DPS at the same time.
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>>121339463
regarding debuffs, the average ek has disarm/overwhelm (~12% def for 6sec and ~11k pdef/9k mdef reduction for 7sec), average bmage has timebomb for 20k mdef for 12sec and ex swing for all elemental resist debuff 21% for 28sec, 21% pdef or mdef for 22sec
how would they rank on that support list?
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>>121340585
I have absolutely no idea, but is the point that EK and BM can fill WM's support role or surpass it while also hitting harder?

Cause he'd still be in the top 10 for support/passable DPS at the same time going from what I'm reading in this thread.
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>Level Witch to 20
>Free piggyback ride for Elementalist so far.

>Hop on to try and further this EXP gravy train
>Elementalist is SO FUCKING UNCOMFORTABLE TO PLAY AND WEAK TO BOOT HOLY FUCK

Oh my god I think I've screwed myself out of leveling something viable alongside the Witch who needs chrons to be viable anyway. There's no backing out of this event now. Fucking hell.
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>>121340141
Implying you will ever be geared enough to enter content where it matters
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