/boig/ - The Binding of Isaac General

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nth for best waifu

>boig instead of big
fucking finally

>tfw Marked + Chocolate Milk
Name a comfier combo
I'm just lightly swiveling the right thumbstick as everything dies

>>121173264
The next person to post an OP, update the Mulliboom seed to J2LP E87W, and make sure you say it works for Afterbirth.

Is Lilith what Eve should have been?
Why is Incubus so based?
Did emud finally realise what he was doing wrong?

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I'm playing as Lilith, in Depths 1. I bought a ventricular razor from the shop because I hadn't seen it before and tried to use it.

Does anybody know what the fuck this is?

>>121173587
Incubus/Succubus are best familiars

>>121173626
Use it twice.

>>121173626
think portal gun, thats it basically, you cant travel through floors though

>>121173626

Basically works like a portal gun - activate it once for first portal, twice for second. It's not particularly good.

>>121173626
Portal gun. Can be used to cheese challenge rooms and boss rush for items.

>>121173626
Read the OP next time fuck face.

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>Cathedral
>Curse of the Lost
EPIC

>>121173456
>being a pedo

what combinations work now compared to the rebirth version?

Music tiers

>Toppest Tier
Mom, It Lives, Sheol, Isaac, Boss Rush, Library, Cellar, Chest, Flooded Caves, ??? Floor, Hush, Ultra Greed

>Bretty Gudd :DDD Tier
Title, Boss Fight, Secret Room, Game Over, Satan, Cathedral, Necropolis, ??? Boss, The Lamb, Arcade, Burning Basement, Dank Depths

>Alright Tier
Basement, Caves, Catacombs, Shop, Credits

>Muted Tier
Depths, Womb, Devil Room, Angel Room, Dark Room

>Don't even remember it and can't find it anywhere online Tier
Scarred Womb

Accurate?

>>121174298
Necropolis is High tier in both Original and Rebirth

>>121174235
Rubber Cement + Everything.

That's it

>>121174123
>not chest or ??? with curse of the blind
It's bearable. Just take a note of where you are.

>>121174298
>Cathedral
>not toppest

>>121174298
>Isaac, Sheol, Library that high
>Burning Basement not a top tier
>Caves that low

>>121174298
Burning Basement is top tier for sure.

Controller or keyboard

Go

>>121174298
Scarred Womb is pretty top tier
It's track 3 on this
https://ridiculon.bandcamp.com/album/the-binding-of-isaac-afterbirth-ost

>>121174603
Easily controller
Why would you play a twin stick shooter without one?

>>121174460
Library is the comfiest song in the game bro

>>121174721
I don't visit library.

>>121174603
Keyboard.
I can't handle the controller's lack of sensitivity.

>>121174694
>filthy console peasants

WHERE ARE ALL MY ITEMS

>greed mode
>curse of the blind
>soy milk
>magnetic tears

It's not like I wanted to win or anything.

>>121174873
Nice meme, /v/

Not to say that this game is better or worse with a controller, but only a braindead idiot would think some games aren't better with one

>>121174603
Controller.

It's not even a debate. Keyboards have ghosting which will not let you move diagonally while moving a ludovico tear diagonally at the same time. I had to rearrange my controls to YGHJ and Num5123 to be able to do that. Then I found out I can't use actives when moving diagonally up-left. Was a problem with How To Jump.

Though my cheap piece of shit controller has different inputs on analog stick compared to the right-side buttons so I can't switch to analog at will when I get Ludovico because up and left are reversed and so are down and right.

Any reward for killing Mega Satan yet?

>>121175147
co-op babies

>>121174603
played with a keyboard for too long, couldn't switch if I wanted to

>>121174603
Keyboard. Not even a contest.

>>121175069
>ghosting

Anything decent doesn't have ghosting though.

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Doctor's Remote is a good item.

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What do they do?

>>121136896
>There is no fun at all in angel rooms.
>They require you handicapping yourself for bad rewards that may or may not come.
When you think about it, this is meta-commentary from Edmund saying something like:
>there isn't a decent reason to avoid the gifts and teachings of Satan if:
>1) you are skilled enough to receive them
>2) the alternative is almost strictly worse

While I don't consider myself satanist, I'd like to remind people that the depictions of "god (christian)" and "satan/lucifer" merely rely on the texts you're reading. Attempting to assert that one is more "moral" than the other is completely ridiculous, and only shows your own bias towards a text with no sources.

how's the progress on discovering whatever secret edmund has this time?
what's the point of the monstro fight?
why does greed's money machine stop at 109?

>>121175518
the bean is reusable pheromones,nails make you shoot nails instead of tears, I think they have more knockback and a bit more damage read the OP next time

Is there a way to disable the water/fire shaders?

>>121175518

bean is a pheromones fart on 2 charge

nails are a tear thing, changes visuals and is a damage up

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>>121174873
>implying you can't use a controller on a computer

>>121175627
>what's the point of the monstro fight?
Pretty sure that's there just for flavor, to match the trailer.

>>121175627
the secret is that at least some of the items are actually in the files, and if you put them into the item pool files you can actually pick them up, I would compare it to on-disc dlc

>All stat up mushroom
>Halo
>THREE Pills that make you larger
>Tractor Beam

BANE!?

I keep seeing screenshots of people on greed mode drowning in familiars or other items. Other than git gud, how are they doing this? Some exploit?

I just found out Polyphemus and Mom's Knife work together.

what the FUCK.

I've unlocked almost everything except a few Lost things and never had them both in a run.

Hush died almost instantly

>>121175935
The first thing I did after picking up Tractor Beam was send a banepost to a friend with it.
I then realised it was semi-decent, but shit for taking away momentum tears.

What does Tractor Beam do with multi-shots or wiz shot?

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any tips for the guardian? looks like impossible

>>121176531
IV Bag. Give health to get coins then buy back your health. You'll slowly make a profit.

>>121176531
You get Box of Friends which duplicates familiars

then you get a battery or something that recharges it in the same room

and then you keep using that item

game is hard

>>121175675
This, the shaders are fucking up my framerate. I know there must be a config.ini command that disable those effects.

>>121176661
Wrangle harder.
Certain conditions will make it impossible, but if you persist you can pull it off.

>>121176661
unless you have 15 cents, just rush it to the boss room, certain enemies like the mom hands and the ghosts are guaranteed to hit your retard

So is that ARG thing to unlock half the content still going or will afterbirth forever be shit?

>Blue Bomber
>Converter in a shop
>hey this sounds like a good idea

it wasn't a good idea

>>121176661
Get orbitals
Get Book of Revelations or The Nail or Guppy's Paw; something that gives you health
Get lucky

>>121177063
>only had one room with Mam Hands
>retard just kept running and dodged all four
I was proud.

Question

Why are the ARGfags jerking off to Stud Finder? Was there any hint that it's related to the secret?

The description "the ground below feels hollow" could as well mean that the chance to find crawl spaces is significantly increased.

>>121174298
Cellar is pretty bad desu senpai

>>121177194
??? cannot get red hearts in any way.
It's not like EZ-zel.

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Cutest new item?

What's the point of doing the suicide king challenge? I can't imagine I'd ever want the suicide king card in the item pool.

>>121178117

lil gurdy, hands down

>>121178117
Lil Gurdy by a mile

>>121178194
When youre low on HP and have an extra life, the pickups it spawns are pretty dope

>>121178194
completing achivement is goal of this game

>>121178117
Lil Gurdy or Charged Baby

>>121178194

Suicide King card is actually really useful, albeit rarely so. If you've got the extra life to spare, there's practically no reason not to. It is almost guaranteed to give you a decent chunk of HP and an item or two.

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>>121177194
>Blue Bomber
>Get rock that makes money appear whenever you blow up rocks
>My man Stan hooks me up with Guppy

>>121174603
In "Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth" the direction of movement is analog -- meaning it's possible to have a very high rate of control over the direction that you are moving
Compare: Pacman (digital movement: up/down/left/right) and Mario (analog movement: digital input + angles inbetween those standard inputs)
Because you have the possibility of high control over your movement via analog input, and because the relevance of your characters location matters to the gameplay (dodging, accuracy, etc) it would be beneficial to use an input device that allows analog input over digital.
This is in a vacuum, of course, and it assumes that the devices you use are equal in every other way, which isn't true.

Keyboard
>Very High availability due to being essential for normal computer usage in general
>Decent customization options
>Variable ergonomics
>Low control - Digital input

Controller
>Poor availability - Most console controllers have special adapters, meaning you may require buying a controller specifically for analog input
>Low customization options
>Variable ergonomics
>High control - Analog movement

In conclusion:
If you're using a keyboard you're either poor, lazy, or don't mind less control over your movement.
Controller is almost always better for games that allow analog movement.
Also you're a fucking faggot for reading all this.

>>121173626
crashed my game

>>121177746
something about cain tilling the land

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Fucking finally

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What went right, /boig/?

http://bindingofseeds.com/seeds/AL1EZXE7

>>121178736
You're forgetting that mice have much better control than analog sticks.

Also I skimmed, you queer.

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What is /boig/'s favourite combos to play?

Pic related. Sometimes mindless fun is the best.

>>121178872
stud finders are for joiners/sparkies, not farmers. reading too far into things

>>121178194
If you get a dead cat and the card early on you can get some nice items at least.

>>121179163
replace pyro for dr fetus and that's my favorite build

now it gets even more crazy with some bomb upgrades

>>121179163
I like the spear, holy grail, scapegoat and isaac's heart :^))

Has anyone gotten that item that increases fire rate the longer your fire in one direction + soy milk + cancer yet? I'm curious how hilarious it is.

>>121179163
Ludovico + Magnetic Tears

>>121179163
Lots of damage up + Lots of tears up + Cancer trinket

>>121179163

anything with fairly large tears that explode into smaller tears that explode once more into smaller tears. Bonus points if they have an effect like Fire Mind, Ipecac, or Mom's Contact..

>>121177746
No, there isn't a hint that involves Stud Finder
As a matter of fact, Edmund has repeatedly hinted that digging/shovels are not required

>>121179163

I got Godhead + Ipecac + guppy TF once. It was over far too soon.

>>121179163
Pyromaniac+Kamikaze
incredibly simple, but you're pretty much immortal and blow shit up

>>121179163
Cricket's body, parasite, and lost contact

>>121180047

All of your runs will now forever use this synergy. Congratulations.

However, you can only play as Blue Babby now

>Holy Water solos double Monstro rooms
Truly better than Polyphemus.

>>121179163
Monstro's Lung + Death's Touch is pretty fun, Guppy with it is a bonus

Also, high tear rate + strange attractor

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How to beat Blue Bomber:

1. get Judas's Shadow
2. pick up 1-2 hearts
3. cheese all the demon bums/blood banks with kamikaze/pyromania until you have full red hearts
4a. fight Hush because you're almost literally unkillable
4b. run out of bombs on Satan and lose because he's immune to kamikaze and you didn't get any familiars/orbitals

you're welcome
fuck you edmund

how the FUCK do i fight Hush

i beat him both runs i got to him but every time i try to fight him now my game crashes

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>L1 Greed Mode
>The multiple chasing spider spawn
>Mega Fatty

Why don't you just fucking press the restart button for me.

>guardian can't be that hard right
>do fine until depths 2
>the retard walks over a single spike square and loses all of his health instantly

there's no fucking way this is intentional, it has to be a bug

>>121181646
nah man 100+ hours of more gameplay desu senpai

Why the FUCK is The Stain a Caves boss when he is literally a harder variant of Polycephalus?

Quick question guys

I know you could pause the game and forcequit (or just forcequit) to reset to the previous savestate in Rebirth

Can you do this in Afterbirth too? I'm tired of getting fucked in the ass by Greed Mode with the Lost,
and it's the only thing I've left to do apart from the Hush and 2 or 3 challenges

>>121179163
Golden touch and Unicorn stub.

>>121181975
Acquire aptitude

>>121179163
Epic Fetus, Ipecac, Hurts so Good

>>121181975
>being a complete fucking shitter
You have Spectral Tears and the D4 now, git gud or git out

>>121182461
>>121182543
thought so, I'll git gud then

>one of those Maggy runs where all you get is health up thanks edmund
>find a D4 and roll into Tiny Planet, My Reflection, and Multidimensional Baby
I don't know WHAT the fuck is going on

>>121182543
Why does everyone talk about the Lost having the D4?
I'm still starting with nothing.

>>121182461
>>121182543
suck my cock, the lost is shit, goes against the entire design philosophy of isaac

>>121183241
Literally don't get hit senpai

>>121183241
nah i wouldn't usually be that lazy but it's that
i've already done all the shit in the oribinal rebirth

I'd rather not have to kill hush in hard with the lost desu

do items found in greed mode count towards RPG?

>>121183234
Buy the Afterbirth DLC you shitter, or maybe unlock the d4

>>121183480
yes

>>121183480
Yes, not sure since I still have RPG from Rebirth

>>121183504
I do have the Afterbirth DLC, you cocksucker.
Haven't bombed enough slot machines to unlock the D4, I suppose.

>playing Lilith for unlocks
>get devil room
>OH SHIT DARK JUDAS TIME FOR EZMODE
>buy, immediately kill self on fire, run back in and grab spirit hearts
>go down to next floor
>fighting floating zombie things
>"weird incubus seems to be glitched inside me so i don't have to worry about positio-"
>realize my mistake
>immediately kill self

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>>121181751

>Getting the Stain on greed mode when there's a countdown
>He goes underground
>...
>...
>...
>...
>Whoops! You're out of time. Have a double Gurdy Jr.

>>121183530
>>121183658
k den
i left the game open when i went to work so it hasnt updated yet

'The Family Man' has to be the gayest experience of my life.

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Just fought hush for the 4th or 5th time and for the first time had the black veins really start to surround isaac as his health went down also noticed he was using attacks i hadn't seen him use before such as giant red tears that exploded into loads of smaller ones and this one he started to use which looks like two huge beams of light, i died just before they hit though

>>121184120

The veins are a graphical glitch, those attacks are part of his normal arsenal.

>>121183728
The Incubus loss wasn't the only problem, you would have unlocked Judas stuff.

>>121183931
stand still

okay is there something wrong with my game or the game in general? i haven't found a single punching bag since afterbirth came out, and it's like my boss room drops are so heavily skewed towards pageant boy.

>>121184120
The beams looks cool but are not that much of a problem.

>>121173626
It acts like a portal between two rooms. Use it in another room and you get an orange hole and can go Between the two.

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>>121184098

I am so glad I don't have to touch the stupidest challenges from Rebirth ever again.

>>121184623
Unless you're base Maggy speed.
Then you have issues.

>>121184615
>dissing free dosh
no class/10

>>121184490
I didn't actually end the run, I decided to keep going mainly because DAT POWER
Ended up getting some sweet devil deal shit including brimstone, used Emperor on Womb 2 and no damaged Hush because of my bandage-girl+big fan+pretty fly+distant admirer combo, so at least I knocked out Judas's Hush kill, just need to do greed mode and Stan Sr.

Also I abused friend box + battery to finally fucking knock super bandage unlock out.

>doing Speed challenge
>treasure room with 20/20 spawns next to starting room
>grab it and head to next room
>Super Envy

where is the content ed man

>>121185149

tonight at 11

how do you even get to hush

>>121185239
obtain proficiency

>>121185149

Never because you are mean and found out about it too quickly >-_-

>>121185239
Beat IT LIVES before 30 minutes

>>121185239
Kill It lives in less than 30 minutes.

>>121185386
>>121185403
or Mom's heart

>>121175675
THISTHISTHISTHISTHIS MY PC IS OLD SHITE AND THAT SHADER IS BULLSHIT

>>121185596
That goes without saying stop being pedantic.

>>121185801
sorry

>get Jera from Eternal Chest
>duplicate it
>that chest also has Jera
>recursive Jera duplication ensues, via chest duplication
>next room has a soul heart and a key
>infinite everything

>>121176768
>>121185742
>actually experiencing framedrops in fucking isaac
l
m
a
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if you didn't like the look of them i'd understand, but buy something other than a fucking emachines next time

>>121185869
Don't sweat it bro.

>>121185912
I thought Jera couldn't duplicate itself.

>>121185973
I'm saving up for a fucking huge battlestation but for now I have to survive with a shitty windowsxp CPU.
And yeah, the shader is ugly as fuck

>>121185912
>blank rune+jera
>find a room with a battery

Were they even thinking of this

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>find a Petrified Poop on level 1
>find a Card Against Humanity
>use it in the big room
>clear the poops
>buy a shit ton of stuff
>make guppy
>realize that the switch gets destroyed by Card Against Humanity

QUALITY

Q U A L I T Y
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>>121186327
you got keked hard senpai

Do sacks have a chance to drop pennies? Doing Pay to Play and I want to know if it will fuck me

>>121186327
>releases buggy dlc
>is revealed to also be withholding content

Is he trying to commit social suicide?

>>121186592
Sacks are a straight up improvement of standard pick ups.

>>121186592

Sackface is one of the best purchases available.

>>121186668
You wouldn't swallow a 100 $ steak in one bite, would you?

>>121187205

You're a big steak

>>121187342

_____________for you.____________________________

>>121187393
why the fuck did I even bother highlighting the spoiler

What was the point of the new bats?
They're literally Mr Maws but with more health and less danger.
Does emud have a fat fetish?

>>121186205
he was duplicating chests that contained jera

>>121187804
Oh ok, I missed that part.

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I need some help.

I defeated the heart in less than 30m and the door to the womb opened, but I rushed the floor and would like to explore to find some shit that I'm going to need against the Hush.

Will the door close if I leave the boss room, explore, and go over the 30m mark?

>>121187937

No. It only closes after 30 minutes.

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>>121187701
Have you seen his wife?
Of course he doesnt

But I do

>>121187994

So I need to go back to the boss room before the 30m mark then? Alright.

>>121187701
To be annoying meat tanks.

>>121188148

Yeah pretty much. But if the timer hits 30m+ while you're in the room, it'll close.

Blue Bomber pro strat: get the car battery from the shop

Why are all the new transformations so lame?

The only actual useful one is still just guppy

>>121188496
What happens? Dual booms or stronger explosions?

>>121188694
Ed doesnt like it when people have fun with useful items

>>121188778
Kamikaze activates twice each time you use it, so 2 bombs go off.

Posted last night when I beat Hush by literally standing next to it. Tried to do so again today. This time, I didn't have the D4, so I know what my items were, and once again during its continuum barrage, I never got hit. I didn't seek out any safe spots, I just stood still. I had nothing that could have deflected the shots. I didn't even have orbiting items.

I'm still gonna fuck around with it, but so far, it seems like not moving at all during the continuum phase means you won't get hit. Still gotta be careful of those tank flies, though.

No matter how hard you try to wrangle the retard, he always seems to move in exactly the wrong way for the room.
>step into a room
>brimstone wallcrawler immediately zaps him
>die

And apologies to whoever said there was a sword in the game, it does appear to be something more than a reskin of the lance.
Has a fear effect as well. One of the locked items, probably.

>>121188694

I made Mom the other day. I was confused as to why I had a knife as Lilith. I used box of friends and it didn't do anything. It's not even good. It just follows behind you.

Cthulu transformation was a bit jarring when I first saw it. Just seems to give you flight. idk what else it does.

They're all a bit shit.

>>121173264
Has anyone here actually unlocked the lost since afterbirth was released?
I tried yesterday and did everything properly and got nothing.
Could the conditions have changed or have I done something wrong.
For instance I haven't unlocked the d4

>>121189309
I did, and it worked fine.
Are you sure you're meeting the right conditions?
Are you dying inbetween your sequenced deaths?
Have you seeded the Azazel run?

>>121189309

Seeds don't work any more. Needs to be done legitimately.

>>121189701
Unless something changed between Afterbirth's release and now, this isn't true.
Seeds worked fine for me for the Isaac and Maggie runs.
You've never been able to do Azazel's run on a seed, though.

>>121189808

I seeded it the other day, except for Azazel's and it didn't unlock. Managed to do it legitimately today and it unlocked.

Could just be something I missed. Not sure.

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>walk into item room
>nothing there
thanks

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gg Hush

so the stud finder do anything or not?

So is Afterbirth actually worth getting yet, or should I wait until Edmund stops being a fuck and actually puts all the content in?

>>121189180
Did that challenge first try. It was easy. So was the fast one. I don't know why people are bitching about it.

>>121191001
Then you got lucky in pickups and enemy types.
I just ran into Mask of Infamy, and I could not kill it fast enough while the tard just stood there.

>>121190070
Plat god says it's a 10% increase in money pickup drops, but that isn't confirmed.

>>121190043
Is that Hush's face?

>>121191001
It's not so much a matter of skill, it's a matter of luck. Like if you get Red Mom on The Guardian, it's a guaranteed loss. Or if you get Blighted Ovum on Speed!, that's a guaranteed loss as well.

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Apparently this is a hint

It looks so heavy handed though
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
FUCK

>>121191802
Is that Azazel? He's such a QT!

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>>121191802

maybe it's got something to do with this dead useless secret room

>>121191802
I DONT UNDERSTAND

Why do we never see edmund playing this game?

>>121191802
What the fuck is with your Azazel?
I want that

>trying to do brains challenge
>trying to spawn angel rooms
>have the rosary bead
>devil rooms continue to spawn
>nothing but devil rooms
>womb 2
>angel room finally spawns
>lazarus' rags

>>121179163
Pyromaniac with Kamikaze. I play it with Allah Akbar mod.

>>121174694
>using joysticks when your shot directions are limited to 4

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>>121191802
Apparently suicide as Lilith in the self-sacrifice room yields a puzzle piece that is a LITTLE bit different than the previous pieces

Also: Secret rooms in Greed mode aren't a bug. They only appear for certain characters.
The ending cinematic for Greed mode might be a hint that someone needs to die there.

>>121191802
what is that gay anime hair on your azazel

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>finally get epic fetus on the first floor of Speed
>second boss is fistula

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>>121192497
Previous pieces for reference

>>121192497
Was this without the missing poster?

>>121192002
>>121192225
>>121192514
It's not my Azazel
It's a picture from one of the game's artists

Hair might be like that because it's Eden with several items.
She's got weird hair all the time right?

>>121192864
>>121192497
This was while holding the Missing Poster

But as >>121192721 shows, it's not the piece for The Lost

>>121192721
sick. now can we have the rest of the content ed

>>121192497
>>121193039
Where does the poster appear on the seed?
I think I have something to do for the next few hours.

Anyone have a save for all characters unlocked?

Because I've been at this "The Lost" shit for 5 hours, and I've done all requirements twice over, no seed.

Still no fucking unlock.

About to give up the ghost

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>>121192002
>>121192225
>>121192514
Ive seen artists draw him like that. I dont know how the screenshot was acheived however

>>121193231
You're doing the requirements wrong, I imagine.
Go through your steps here.

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Based We need to go deeper!.

>>121193210

>14 minutes
>all that

how?

>>121193438
devil rooms and health ups every boss

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http://strawpoll.me/5910961/r

>>121193337
Not him, but there is so many bugs in the update that it's really possible the lost's unlock can be fucked.
I wasted 2 hours trying to go to the blue womb as Maggie, all I got was my game crashing when i enter it.

So once lilith is nerfed and edmund sets his sights on destroying the rest of the fun, how badly will serpent's kiss get dark bummed?

>>121193630
I unlocked the Lost myself post-DLC, chances are it's not fucked and he's just making a minor mistake that's fucking the whole thing up.

>>121193692

is serpent's kiss an unlock? i haven't even seen it yet

>>121193337

I'm doing the requirements in the thread, PLUS IN ORDER.

Like...this isn't fun anymore. I hate playing as devil edgelord and wasting time for NOTHING

>>121193692
>how badly will serpent's kiss get dark bummed?
Ennemies only drop black hearts when they die from the poison? That wouldn't be so bad

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holy shit lilith in greed mode is OP as fuck

>>121193692
What does Serpent's Kiss do?

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>almost beat Hush with The Lost on my first try
>almost

>>121193845
You HAVE to do them in order, there's no plus about it.
Seriously, type out everything you do step by step, including seed usage.
It's possible you're doing something wrong without knowing it.

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>tfw Joker Card let me get Mom's Knife+Pact first floor
>tfw random trap door in Womb 2's Arcade let me fight Satan in XXXXXXXXL

>>121193971

poisons enemies, and if they die while poisoned they have a chance to drop black hearts

it's how ALL poison effects should be, given how few and how shitty they are

>>121193263
>what are mods ?

>>121193757
I dunno, I think you're right, but it's still possible. Maybe it has something to do with new alternative floors ?
Also I had to beat Ultra Greed 2 times as Isaac cause the first time did not get validated for some reason.
My point is that this update is broken, and there is already a lot of bugs despite the game being released less than a week ago.

>>121177207
all my orbitals stuck to me and not my mong

I was very upset

>>121193263
The artist made a mod for it.

>>121194039

Well, I can't even get the D6, so I guess it's a moot point trying to unlock the lost anyway.

Maybe it's this stupid stat display mod that invalidated the unlock.

reading Edmunds blog shit on the BoI webpage
Edmund talks about how a big criticism of the game is that the sacrifice rooms are worthless
>last week i asked the fans what minor fixes/updates they wanted to see in the next update, and i read them all (if all means the top 20 or so). a lot of the more common suggestions will be finding their way into the update.. but the one that stuck out for me the most was that “sacrifice rooms are worthless”
he goes on to say
>this is something i agree with and again something that i felt held more weight/significance to the games theme/story due to it being the focal point to finding the lost. but alas we all know how that ended… but what to do with them now?
>on the gameplay side of things the sacrifice room was meant to be a “i got too much life” archetype, where as if you found more life than you needed you could gamble with it in said rooms… but no one does that.. why? because its too luck based with its payouts.
>well i can say this, i found a way to fix this system… but its a but of an overhaul that will need to be added into afterbirth instead of just a normal update… but it should make things a lot more interesting.

The interesting parts here are the fact that
>(1) There IS something different about sacrifice rooms in Afterbirth, and he's aware that they aren't commonly used
>(2) It's something that couldn't be easily added into the previous game
>(3) He wants the theme of the game/story to persist when using the Sacrifice rooms (ala The Lost)

>>121194292
>Maybe it's this stupid stat display mod that invalidated the unlock.

You should have told us sooner. Yes, mods can fuck up achievements and unlocks.

>>121194483

Well.

Guess I'm going to save myself 11 bucks and a headache by not playing this any further.

Thanks for that tip.

>>121194362
Or he just fucking lied to us and they're still useless.
At least he didnt make them worse like he did with Angel rooms

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>placebo and "One Makes You Smaller"

>>121194171
well yah brah
you use them to give your face more DPS

>>121194696
2hu-tier hitbox

>3 lost floors in a row

>>121179294
>Good damage
>A little retard that takes all the attention
>Isaac's Heart allows you some pretty game-breaking synergies
>Flight

Good taste

Can someone explain the meaning of "Onan's Streak" to me? Maybe I'm being thick. I don't see what the concept of never missing has to do with not impregnating your brother's wife.

>finally get to Utero 2 with the tard
>I'm finally going to make it
>gurdy jr + hollow in a small room
>mom's hands
>laser eyes
I didn't make it.

>>121195085
You can't "spill your seed" on the floor.
Have to aim true, buddy.

>>121195085
God hates you when you dont shoot on target

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>>121192421
do the challenge "The Guardian"

now realize that pointing your sword any any direction is actually pretty dank

then feel bad that you've been using a keyboard this whole time like a fucking dumbass

my little brother uses a keyboard and complains about movespeed powerups - he can't make his character walk with a keyboard, only run

get GTFO keyboardkeks LOL

>>121195241
Small rooms are great for Guardian. Just block the path of whatever tries to get at Cunt.

>>121195410
Do people just not use mouse with keyboard?

>>121195241
>>121195386

I see. Think I'm going to go spill some seed elsewhere on this site in epiphany of this understanding.

>>121195386
God must really fucking hate 4chan then.

>>121193590
>http://strawpoll.me/5910961/r
>literally only have SPEED! beaten

>>121193867
It doesn't sound like it but you're pretty much guaranteed a full set of black hearts atm

>>121193792
lillith greed mode i think

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I fucking hate speedrun achievements

>>121196182
Lilith Satan. Lilith Greed is Baby Factory.

>>121194362
>(3) He wants the theme of the game/story to persist when using the Sacrifice rooms (ala The Lost)
Is the part I'm focused on most
When you suicide in the room you release a ghost (The Lost) which makes sense thematically, even more-so when you add in the idea of the "Missing" Page. The player kills themselves to find the "missing ghost" which is obvious in retrospect.

Well, alright so what if it was thought of not as a "suicide" room, but as a "Sacrifice" room, and applied the logic of The Lost? Basically, trying to approach this from a designers perspective instead of working backwards as the player.
That's the hard part I guess. Throw me some idea's if you've got them.
My current ideas are;
>The player sacrifices themselves to ...
> ... rise again (Jesus)
> ... cleanse original Sin (Jesus)
> ... please the Lord (Abraham sacrificing his son, Isaac)
My personal favorite is Abraham but that's just me.

SPOILERS: There is either a "Shop Keeper" transformation or the Keeper is a character. It's not confirmed if it's a character though, I'd sooner believe it's a transformation because of the variety of shop-specific items in the game now (Steam Sale, Options, Restock, etc.)

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>finally get to Satan for the first time
>about 8 spirit hearts
>the room before Satan has a bunch of turrets with horns
>suddenly the room fulls with brimstone shots
>nearly impossible to dodge
>the room takes me down to half a spirit heart
>instantly die on Satan

Fuck you too game

tell me about the last run you raged on.

>>121196381

LITTLE HORN IS NOT FOR LEWD

>rotten babies flies dont attack hush

GOD its bad enough i forgot to go in with uncharged double friends

>>121196593
Lilith run when I picked up the knife, the incubus had decent range, but once I got the knife I couldn't hit shit.

>>121196508
There's a spoiler system for a reason, plebbit.

>>121196593
The Guardian.
EVERY.
SINGLE.
RUN.
DODGE, YOU LITTLE SHIT

So, about the Guardian, in my last -successful- attempt killing enemies kept giving me black hearts. Does anybody have any idea which item was causing that?

>>121196381
I wonder if Edmund knows about the porn.

Did you know player 2 can control the heart in The Guardian.

>>121196874
serpent's kiss?

>>121196874
there are a bunch that do that. serpent's kiss and maw of the void for sure but I think there are others

>>121197010

He's tweeted about the BoI porn subreddit once or twice. He knows.

>>121197010
I doubt he cares, he used to make newgrounds flashes where you have to play some game killing a vagina, I forget the name but it had cunt in it.

>>121196593
>>121196523

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>>121197027
shut up

>>121197010
https://twitter.com/edmundmcmillen/status/585720957907705856

>Game crashes when entering the room leading to blue bagina

What do?

>>121197229
:)

>>121197093
>>121197127
100% sure it was neither of those.

>>121197338

don't go to blue bagina, just move on to sheol/cathedral

it'll stay bugged the entire run, nothing you can do

>>121196593
>normal run, got some cool tear effects
>get text
>"anon, your car is making weird noises"
>I let my sister borrow the car to go to the corner store
>she can't even manage to get it out of the fucking drive way before crying for help
>pause the game
>go outside to help
>she managed to get half-way out of the driveway but that's it
>immediately notice a high pitch sound coming from the wheel-well
>tell her to shut off the car and get the fuck away from my car
>go to examine the wheel-well
>2 cats
>literally an entire TWO cats are half ran-over and stuck on the interior of the wheel-well
>they are clawing the fuck out of everything including each other
>blood everywhere
>one of them stops moving while I sit there in shock
>the other one is biting and clawing and hissing still
>i figure the right thing to do is put it out of it's misery
>have a rifle but I'm not about to shoot my fucking car
>notice a metal bat leaning against the neighbors house
>go grab it, pissed and wanting to go back inside
>line up the jab and brace myself to put all my weight into the cat's head
>I want it to be quick, I don't like cats much but the fucker is clearly in pain
>I thrust and hit the dead cat
>blood everywhere
>sister is screaming, jumps in the car and starts it
>i'm yelling at her to fucking stop and go inside
>living cat is shredded as she spins the tire, forgetting about E-Brake like a fucking cunt
>i'm covered in blood and guts, as is the driveway
>look around
>my neighbors are all looking at me
>covered in gore, bloody bat, sister shrieking and driving away
I just wanted to play Isaac

>doing speed challenge
>get ipecac
>good damage but get shit on by fast enemies
>playing on laptop, pull out charger -> game slows down
>enemies at regular speed, I'm super slow
>get stopwatch in shop
>finish with 5 minutes to spare

Ultimate scum.

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Lilith is fine.

>>121197664
You basically did a TAS speedrun. Not bad.

>>121196593
Every time I attempt suicide king, I'm never beating that challenge

>>121197595
how did she manage to not notice two cats

>>121197861
suicide king at least you have a consistent method of attack

meanwhile beans you're stuck playing the most boring tedious run ever for 5 hours because you have to fart everything to death

tyrone you shitter

DEV AT COBALT'S STREAKS STREAM HINTING AT 109 HOURS

IT'S HAPPENING
IT'S HAPPENING
IT'S HAPPENING
IT'S HAPPENING
IT'S HAPPENING

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;_;

Word of advice, never take Rubber Cement when you have Dunce, Loki's Horns, eye in the back of your head, and arbitrarily high shot speed. The lasers fucking bounce, the game crashes.

>>121197987
You're not supposed to use your active item, just spam bombs and skip rooms.

>>121198027
who?

>>121198027
109 is a Red Herring
It's meant to mislead both you and the dataminers

>>121198353
Tyrone, I think
He just said that they will remove the IV Bag from greed mode in next patch

>>121198027
>we don't have any computers to test

for fucks sake

tyrone: you need gold

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>>121198571

>109 hours after rebirth before people datamined/unlocked the lost
>109 coins in the greed chest
>ed and tyrone parroting 109 on every stream at every chance they can possibly get

how can one man be so mad

>>121198754
What if I told you
They aren't mad, they're doing it because the majority of the fan base views it as fun

>>121198753
dataminers: you need the patch

>>121198579
he said laptops, and what are people playing games on laptops for anyway

>>121186668
>edmund, who is only involved with the gameplay design, graphical design and story of the game, is somehow responsible for bugs
??????????

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>>121197595
You shoulda hit your retard sister with the bat
At least your look now

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>been doing speed challenge for 3 hours now
>finally get a shot at it
>hella close, only won because of polaroid shield
>die to the last bullet right before grabbing the trophy

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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Whoever thought that small rooms are good challenge, is a bad person. I cant imagine to get one of those on lost runs.

>>121194292
>modding the game before you've beaten it

>>121198929

it's fun looking for content that isn't there yet?

dataminers are in the process of cracking the game wide open, they've confirmed the presence of 20+ items with literally no way to access them being in the game right now

eggman mcmuffin is a petulant fucking baby who thinks he's being clever

>>121199185
Literally did it first try with 2 minutes left.

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>>121199195
>thin boss room
>war

>>121195572
no using a mouse is fucking gay

>>121199567

>thin boss room
>famine
>speed challenge

Im trying to do onans streak challenge but im not getting heaven anybody knows how i can force an isaac fight?

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w-will I make it?

lol jk, what does the coin collector at the end with "Greed" written on it do?

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Questions about After-birth:
>Is there ONLINE co-op? I looked at the Rebirth page and it only said local co-op, but looking at Afterbirth it just says co-op

>Can I pirate this game even if I own Rebirth? I don't have the cash to drop on this at the moment

>>121195410
>complaining about movespeed powerups
I've used M+KB since vanilla isaac and speed ups are universally amazing
I hope your faggot brother enjoys being slow as shit and getting hit by isaac's lightbeams EVERY SINGLE TIME

>>121174840

>>121174840

>Controller
>Lack of sensitivity
>You can walk slowly and in a full, fluid circle, and control weapons that allow it in a full fluid circle

>KEYBOARD
>1/0 SWITCHES HAVING ANY SENSITIVITY AT ALL

Are you actually a retard?

>>121196874
Still nothing? Meh, guess it was a glitch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/108_(number)#In_Jewish_culture_and_numerology
>"stop digging and start living"
:^)

>>121199829
Put money in it to get unlocks.
Last unlock is "Cain starts with Paper Clip", and the greed machine will flat out stop working at 109 cents.
>>121199845
No online co-op.
No idea on the piracy.

>>121200090
Thanks

>>121199829
Allows you to slowly enjoy your $109 dollar steak rather than horfing it down in one bite
>flash filter
Get the fuck out your horrible MONSTER.

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LITERALLY

ACTUALLY

ABSOLUTELY

E P I C
P
I
C

>>121199279
> ... 20+ items with literally no way to access them being in the game right now

>they haven't found a way to unlock them therefor you can't unlock them!
sure thing anon, tell me more about how omnipotent and omniscient the dataminers are and how they know absolutely everything about Afterbirth

>>121200352
LITERALLY
ACTUALLY
ABSOLUTELY
a visual bug
the spikes don't hurt you

>>121200352
quit and reload friend

>>121200301
b-but I played without the filter for so long

and it makes me cozier in my blanket!

>>121200725
does anyone have THE WAY THE DEVELOPERS INTENDED on hand because it needs to be posted and i need to save it

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>First floor
>Curse room takes my to devil deal
>Guppy's head, Guppy's hairball and Goat Head
>Take all three
>No more Guppy items for the rest of the run

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>have Technology 2
>pick up Marked because I've never had them together
>mfw
Dogshit.

>playing lilith
>not a single follower the entire run
>win anyway because lmao poly and sacred

>tfw content never ever gets unlocked because Edmund is still mad at dataminers

>>121180584
story of my life

At least I got cube of meat so I could win

>watching isaac videos from pre-afterbirth because bored while eating
>some guy named huttsgaming comes up in recommended videos
>ultra clickbait title
>lazy clickbait thumbnail
>click anyway, adblock is on so lolfuckyou
>shitty UI covering the 3/4 of the screen
>shitty facecam in the bottom of the screen
>guy looks like a total fucking cockgurgling faggot
>talks shit about NL because he isn't a godsend at knowing how every item works and how some are TOTAL DOGSHIT and you SHOULDN'T TAKE EVER even though NL takes shit just to have fun instead of having guaranteed wins

i've never seen someone who is this much of the embodiment of cancer before in my life

Guardian isn't so bad.
I'm already on Depths I

If you wanted you could just restart till you got blood rights at some point

>>121201048

Who is this semen demon.

>>121192087

He cuts all the fun out of it, not even he wants to play it.

>>121178736
>Poor availability - Most console controllers have special adapters, meaning you may require buying a controller specifically for analog input
You are this retarded

>>121199195
Honestly, unless you have godly DPS, I find it's usually best to circle around the room and put out the fires before even focusing on Krampus.

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>>121201228
Was messing around with my CE wizardry and found this bad boy

has bob's rotten head always been in the gold chest pool

>>121201761
yes

Butt bombs makes Blue Bomber EZmode

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>>121201073
And now I have reflective tears on top of it, thanks to Curse of the Unknown