Female Adversary edition
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>What does "item" do?
>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush
>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.
>How to unlock The Lost?
Please note that the seeds are from Rebirth, and don't work in Afterbirth anymore.
1. Isaac must die to a Mulliboom in one of the Basement floors. Mulliboom seed: FHRD S1N1 (Go into the large room above the starting room. You can easily die from full health in here to them.) Or if not: JTMD EZPF (one is directly below - Normal difficulty)
2. Magdalene must die to her own bomb in one of the Caves floors. (Pyro Seed: ALFA 0NTZ)
3. Judas must die to Mom's Foot as Judas in one of the Depths or Necropolis floors. Good Seed: 8LDE 8XDX (Wait on using the Joker till the 3rd floor and avoid the devil rooms and you'll get the sacred heart. You also get the Sad Onion on the first floor.
4. Azazel must die to Satan in Sheol (his blood/laser form or hooves, NOT leeches or The Fallen). You must NOT use a seed.
The next person to post an OP, update the Mulliboom seed to J2LP E87W, and make sure you say it works for Afterbirth.
Is Lilith what Eve should have been?
Why is Incubus so based?
Did emud finally realise what he was doing wrong?
I'm playing as Lilith, in Depths 1. I bought a ventricular razor from the shop because I hadn't seen it before and tried to use it.
Does anybody know what the fuck this is?
Mom, It Lives, Sheol, Isaac, Boss Rush, Library, Cellar, Chest, Flooded Caves, ??? Floor, Hush, Ultra Greed
>Bretty Gudd :DDD Tier
Title, Boss Fight, Secret Room, Game Over, Satan, Cathedral, Necropolis, ??? Boss, The Lamb, Arcade, Burning Basement, Dank Depths
Basement, Caves, Catacombs, Shop, Credits
Depths, Womb, Devil Room, Angel Room, Dark Room
>Don't even remember it and can't find it anywhere online Tier
It's not even a debate. Keyboards have ghosting which will not let you move diagonally while moving a ludovico tear diagonally at the same time. I had to rearrange my controls to YGHJ and Num5123 to be able to do that. Then I found out I can't use actives when moving diagonally up-left. Was a problem with How To Jump.
Though my cheap piece of shit controller has different inputs on analog stick compared to the right-side buttons so I can't switch to analog at will when I get Ludovico because up and left are reversed and so are down and right.
>There is no fun at all in angel rooms.
>They require you handicapping yourself for bad rewards that may or may not come.
When you think about it, this is meta-commentary from Edmund saying something like:
>there isn't a decent reason to avoid the gifts and teachings of Satan if:
>1) you are skilled enough to receive them
>2) the alternative is almost strictly worse
While I don't consider myself satanist, I'd like to remind people that the depictions of "god (christian)" and "satan/lucifer" merely rely on the texts you're reading. Attempting to assert that one is more "moral" than the other is completely ridiculous, and only shows your own bias towards a text with no sources.
>implying you can't use a controller on a computer
the secret is that at least some of the items are actually in the files, and if you put them into the item pool files you can actually pick them up, I would compare it to on-disc dlc
I just found out Polyphemus and Mom's Knife work together.
what the FUCK.
I've unlocked almost everything except a few Lost things and never had them both in a run.
Hush died almost instantly
The first thing I did after picking up Tractor Beam was send a banepost to a friend with it.
I then realised it was semi-decent, but shit for taking away momentum tears.
What does Tractor Beam do with multi-shots or wiz shot?
Why are the ARGfags jerking off to Stud Finder? Was there any hint that it's related to the secret?
The description "the ground below feels hollow" could as well mean that the chance to find crawl spaces is significantly increased.
Suicide King card is actually really useful, albeit rarely so. If you've got the extra life to spare, there's practically no reason not to. It is almost guaranteed to give you a decent chunk of HP and an item or two.
>Get rock that makes money appear whenever you blow up rocks
>My man Stan hooks me up with Guppy
In "Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth" the direction of movement is analog -- meaning it's possible to have a very high rate of control over the direction that you are moving
Compare: Pacman (digital movement: up/down/left/right) and Mario (analog movement: digital input + angles inbetween those standard inputs)
Because you have the possibility of high control over your movement via analog input, and because the relevance of your characters location matters to the gameplay (dodging, accuracy, etc) it would be beneficial to use an input device that allows analog input over digital.
This is in a vacuum, of course, and it assumes that the devices you use are equal in every other way, which isn't true.
>Very High availability due to being essential for normal computer usage in general
>Decent customization options
>Low control - Digital input
>Poor availability - Most console controllers have special adapters, meaning you may require buying a controller specifically for analog input
>Low customization options
>High control - Analog movement
If you're using a keyboard you're either poor, lazy, or don't mind less control over your movement.
Controller is almost always better for games that allow analog movement.
Also you're a fucking faggot for reading all this.
What went right, /boig/?
What is /boig/'s favourite combos to play?
Pic related. Sometimes mindless fun is the best.
anything with fairly large tears that explode into smaller tears that explode once more into smaller tears. Bonus points if they have an effect like Fire Mind, Ipecac, or Mom's Contact..
How to beat Blue Bomber:
1. get Judas's Shadow
2. pick up 1-2 hearts
3. cheese all the demon bums/blood banks with kamikaze/pyromania until you have full red hearts
4a. fight Hush because you're almost literally unkillable
4b. run out of bombs on Satan and lose because he's immune to kamikaze and you didn't get any familiars/orbitals
fuck you edmund
>L1 Greed Mode
>The multiple chasing spider spawn
Why don't you just fucking press the restart button for me.
>guardian can't be that hard right
>do fine until depths 2
>the retard walks over a single spike square and loses all of his health instantly
there's no fucking way this is intentional, it has to be a bug
Quick question guys
I know you could pause the game and forcequit (or just forcequit) to reset to the previous savestate in Rebirth
Can you do this in Afterbirth too? I'm tired of getting fucked in the ass by Greed Mode with the Lost,
and it's the only thing I've left to do apart from the Hush and 2 or 3 challenges
>playing Lilith for unlocks
>get devil room
>OH SHIT DARK JUDAS TIME FOR EZMODE
>buy, immediately kill self on fire, run back in and grab spirit hearts
>go down to next floor
>fighting floating zombie things
>"weird incubus seems to be glitched inside me so i don't have to worry about positio-"
>realize my mistake
>immediately kill self
>Getting the Stain on greed mode when there's a countdown
>He goes underground
>Whoops! You're out of time. Have a double Gurdy Jr.
Just fought hush for the 4th or 5th time and for the first time had the black veins really start to surround isaac as his health went down also noticed he was using attacks i hadn't seen him use before such as giant red tears that exploded into loads of smaller ones and this one he started to use which looks like two huge beams of light, i died just before they hit though
okay is there something wrong with my game or the game in general? i haven't found a single punching bag since afterbirth came out, and it's like my boss room drops are so heavily skewed towards pageant boy.
I am so glad I don't have to touch the stupidest challenges from Rebirth ever again.
I didn't actually end the run, I decided to keep going mainly because DAT POWER
Ended up getting some sweet devil deal shit including brimstone, used Emperor on Womb 2 and no damaged Hush because of my bandage-girl+big fan+pretty fly+distant admirer combo, so at least I knocked out Judas's Hush kill, just need to do greed mode and Stan Sr.
Also I abused friend box + battery to finally fucking knock super bandage unlock out.
>actually experiencing framedrops in fucking isaac
if you didn't like the look of them i'd understand, but buy something other than a fucking emachines next time
>find a Petrified Poop on level 1
>find a Card Against Humanity
>use it in the big room
>clear the poops
>buy a shit ton of stuff
>realize that the switch gets destroyed by Card Against Humanity
Q U A L I T Y
I need some help.
I defeated the heart in less than 30m and the door to the womb opened, but I rushed the floor and would like to explore to find some shit that I'm going to need against the Hush.
Will the door close if I leave the boss room, explore, and go over the 30m mark?
Have you seen his wife?
Of course he doesnt
But I do
Posted last night when I beat Hush by literally standing next to it. Tried to do so again today. This time, I didn't have the D4, so I know what my items were, and once again during its continuum barrage, I never got hit. I didn't seek out any safe spots, I just stood still. I had nothing that could have deflected the shots. I didn't even have orbiting items.
I'm still gonna fuck around with it, but so far, it seems like not moving at all during the continuum phase means you won't get hit. Still gotta be careful of those tank flies, though.
No matter how hard you try to wrangle the retard, he always seems to move in exactly the wrong way for the room.
>step into a room
>brimstone wallcrawler immediately zaps him
And apologies to whoever said there was a sword in the game, it does appear to be something more than a reskin of the lance.
Has a fear effect as well. One of the locked items, probably.
I made Mom the other day. I was confused as to why I had a knife as Lilith. I used box of friends and it didn't do anything. It's not even good. It just follows behind you.
Cthulu transformation was a bit jarring when I first saw it. Just seems to give you flight. idk what else it does.
They're all a bit shit.
Has anyone here actually unlocked the lost since afterbirth was released?
I tried yesterday and did everything properly and got nothing.
Could the conditions have changed or have I done something wrong.
For instance I haven't unlocked the d4
Unless something changed between Afterbirth's release and now, this isn't true.
Seeds worked fine for me for the Isaac and Maggie runs.
You've never been able to do Azazel's run on a seed, though.
>walk into item room
It's not so much a matter of skill, it's a matter of luck. Like if you get Red Mom on The Guardian, it's a guaranteed loss. Or if you get Blighted Ovum on Speed!, that's a guaranteed loss as well.
Apparently this is a hint
It looks so heavy handed though
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
maybe it's got something to do with this dead useless secret room
Apparently suicide as Lilith in the self-sacrifice room yields a puzzle piece that is a LITTLE bit different than the previous pieces
Also: Secret rooms in Greed mode aren't a bug. They only appear for certain characters.
The ending cinematic for Greed mode might be a hint that someone needs to die there.
>finally get epic fetus on the first floor of Speed
>second boss is fistula
It's not my Azazel
It's a picture from one of the game's artists
Hair might be like that because it's Eden with several items.
She's got weird hair all the time right?
Anyone have a save for all characters unlocked?
Because I've been at this "The Lost" shit for 5 hours, and I've done all requirements twice over, no seed.
Still no fucking unlock.
About to give up the ghost
Ive seen artists draw him like that. I dont know how the screenshot was acheived however
Not him, but there is so many bugs in the update that it's really possible the lost's unlock can be fucked.
I wasted 2 hours trying to go to the blue womb as Maggie, all I got was my game crashing when i enter it.
>almost beat Hush with The Lost on my first try
You HAVE to do them in order, there's no plus about it.
Seriously, type out everything you do step by step, including seed usage.
It's possible you're doing something wrong without knowing it.
>tfw Joker Card let me get Mom's Knife+Pact first floor
>tfw random trap door in Womb 2's Arcade let me fight Satan in XXXXXXXXL
>what are mods ?
I dunno, I think you're right, but it's still possible. Maybe it has something to do with new alternative floors ?
Also I had to beat Ultra Greed 2 times as Isaac cause the first time did not get validated for some reason.
My point is that this update is broken, and there is already a lot of bugs despite the game being released less than a week ago.
reading Edmunds blog shit on the BoI webpage
Edmund talks about how a big criticism of the game is that the sacrifice rooms are worthless
>last week i asked the fans what minor fixes/updates they wanted to see in the next update, and i read them all (if all means the top 20 or so). a lot of the more common suggestions will be finding their way into the update.. but the one that stuck out for me the most was that “sacrifice rooms are worthless”
he goes on to say
>this is something i agree with and again something that i felt held more weight/significance to the games theme/story due to it being the focal point to finding the lost. but alas we all know how that ended… but what to do with them now?
>on the gameplay side of things the sacrifice room was meant to be a “i got too much life” archetype, where as if you found more life than you needed you could gamble with it in said rooms… but no one does that.. why? because its too luck based with its payouts.
>well i can say this, i found a way to fix this system… but its a but of an overhaul that will need to be added into afterbirth instead of just a normal update… but it should make things a lot more interesting.
The interesting parts here are the fact that
>(1) There IS something different about sacrifice rooms in Afterbirth, and he's aware that they aren't commonly used
>(2) It's something that couldn't be easily added into the previous game
>(3) He wants the theme of the game/story to persist when using the Sacrifice rooms (ala The Lost)
>finally get to Utero 2 with the tard
>I'm finally going to make it
>gurdy jr + hollow in a small room
I didn't make it.
You can't "spill your seed" on the floor.
Have to aim true, buddy.
do the challenge "The Guardian"
now realize that pointing your sword any any direction is actually pretty dank
then feel bad that you've been using a keyboard this whole time like a fucking dumbass
my little brother uses a keyboard and complains about movespeed powerups - he can't make his character walk with a keyboard, only run
get GTFO keyboardkeks LOL
I fucking hate speedrun achievements
>(3) He wants the theme of the game/story to persist when using the Sacrifice rooms (ala The Lost)
Is the part I'm focused on most
When you suicide in the room you release a ghost (The Lost) which makes sense thematically, even more-so when you add in the idea of the "Missing" Page. The player kills themselves to find the "missing ghost" which is obvious in retrospect.
Well, alright so what if it was thought of not as a "suicide" room, but as a "Sacrifice" room, and applied the logic of The Lost? Basically, trying to approach this from a designers perspective instead of working backwards as the player.
That's the hard part I guess. Throw me some idea's if you've got them.
My current ideas are;
>The player sacrifices themselves to ...
> ... rise again (Jesus)
> ... cleanse original Sin (Jesus)
> ... please the Lord (Abraham sacrificing his son, Isaac)
My personal favorite is Abraham but that's just me.
SPOILERS: There is either a "Shop Keeper" transformation or the Keeper is a character. It's not confirmed if it's a character though, I'd sooner believe it's a transformation because of the variety of shop-specific items in the game now (Steam Sale, Options, Restock, etc.)
>finally get to Satan for the first time
>about 8 spirit hearts
>the room before Satan has a bunch of turrets with horns
>suddenly the room fulls with brimstone shots
>nearly impossible to dodge
>the room takes me down to half a spirit heart
>instantly die on Satan
Fuck you too game
>normal run, got some cool tear effects
>"anon, your car is making weird noises"
>I let my sister borrow the car to go to the corner store
>she can't even manage to get it out of the fucking drive way before crying for help
>pause the game
>go outside to help
>she managed to get half-way out of the driveway but that's it
>immediately notice a high pitch sound coming from the wheel-well
>tell her to shut off the car and get the fuck away from my car
>go to examine the wheel-well
>literally an entire TWO cats are half ran-over and stuck on the interior of the wheel-well
>they are clawing the fuck out of everything including each other
>one of them stops moving while I sit there in shock
>the other one is biting and clawing and hissing still
>i figure the right thing to do is put it out of it's misery
>have a rifle but I'm not about to shoot my fucking car
>notice a metal bat leaning against the neighbors house
>go grab it, pissed and wanting to go back inside
>line up the jab and brace myself to put all my weight into the cat's head
>I want it to be quick, I don't like cats much but the fucker is clearly in pain
>I thrust and hit the dead cat
>sister is screaming, jumps in the car and starts it
>i'm yelling at her to fucking stop and go inside
>living cat is shredded as she spins the tire, forgetting about E-Brake like a fucking cunt
>i'm covered in blood and guts, as is the driveway
>my neighbors are all looking at me
>covered in gore, bloody bat, sister shrieking and driving away
I just wanted to play Isaac
>doing speed challenge
>good damage but get shit on by fast enemies
>playing on laptop, pull out charger -> game slows down
>enemies at regular speed, I'm super slow
>get stopwatch in shop
>finish with 5 minutes to spare
suicide king at least you have a consistent method of attack
meanwhile beans you're stuck playing the most boring tedious run ever for 5 hours because you have to fart everything to death
>109 hours after rebirth before people datamined/unlocked the lost
>109 coins in the greed chest
>ed and tyrone parroting 109 on every stream at every chance they can possibly get
how can one man be so mad
You shoulda hit your retard sister with the bat
At least your look now
>been doing speed challenge for 3 hours now
>finally get a shot at it
>hella close, only won because of polaroid shield
>die to the last bullet right before grabbing the trophy
Whoever thought that small rooms are good challenge, is a bad person. I cant imagine to get one of those on lost runs.
it's fun looking for content that isn't there yet?
dataminers are in the process of cracking the game wide open, they've confirmed the presence of 20+ items with literally no way to access them being in the game right now
eggman mcmuffin is a petulant fucking baby who thinks he's being clever
w-will I make it?
lol jk, what does the coin collector at the end with "Greed" written on it do?
Questions about After-birth:
>Is there ONLINE co-op? I looked at the Rebirth page and it only said local co-op, but looking at Afterbirth it just says co-op
>Can I pirate this game even if I own Rebirth? I don't have the cash to drop on this at the moment
>complaining about movespeed powerups
I've used M+KB since vanilla isaac and speed ups are universally amazing
I hope your faggot brother enjoys being slow as shit and getting hit by isaac's lightbeams EVERY SINGLE TIME
>Lack of sensitivity
>You can walk slowly and in a full, fluid circle, and control weapons that allow it in a full fluid circle
>1/0 SWITCHES HAVING ANY SENSITIVITY AT ALL
Are you actually a retard?
Put money in it to get unlocks.
Last unlock is "Cain starts with Paper Clip", and the greed machine will flat out stop working at 109 cents.
No online co-op.
No idea on the piracy.
E P I C
> ... 20+ items with literally no way to access them being in the game right now
>they haven't found a way to unlock them therefor you can't unlock them!
sure thing anon, tell me more about how omnipotent and omniscient the dataminers are and how they know absolutely everything about Afterbirth
>Curse room takes my to devil deal
>Guppy's head, Guppy's hairball and Goat Head
>Take all three
>No more Guppy items for the rest of the run
>have Technology 2
>pick up Marked because I've never had them together
>watching isaac videos from pre-afterbirth because bored while eating
>some guy named huttsgaming comes up in recommended videos
>ultra clickbait title
>lazy clickbait thumbnail
>click anyway, adblock is on so lolfuckyou
>shitty UI covering the 3/4 of the screen
>shitty facecam in the bottom of the screen
>guy looks like a total fucking cockgurgling faggot
>talks shit about NL because he isn't a godsend at knowing how every item works and how some are TOTAL DOGSHIT and you SHOULDN'T TAKE EVER even though NL takes shit just to have fun instead of having guaranteed wins
i've never seen someone who is this much of the embodiment of cancer before in my life
Was messing around with my CE wizardry and found this bad boy
And now I have reflective tears on top of it, thanks to Curse of the Unknown
Did this with IV bag. Had piggy bank + I forget which item, but I was healing 2 hearts for every single heart I bought & my luck noticeably kept increasing with pickups that pretty much every other time I was using the bag I was popping a nickel or dime out. Good stuff.
Knife + Incubus is super OP actually, just mash the direction you want it to fire in and the knife will stay extended. Takes a bit of practice but it fucking demolishes bosses.
I thought I was being clever catching one of these fuckers since they can't be damage from the front, but surprise surprise they lose that when you catch them with friend ball.
Nice fucking game McMuffin.
I could see one of those brimstone spiders being really good.
I just want to complain about something real quick. I used to at least try to finish every run, simply because even if I had a shitty build up to It Lives or beyond I could potentially get something good from a devil deal that could save the run.
Now, however, I'll reset even at Caves if I don't already have something good just because the devil deals are so fucking awful now. I mean there are even fucking enemies inside the fucking thing, that's how awful they can be.
Basically, fuck you Edmund for killing the one way to save a bad run.
>Eve unlocks the Razor Blade
>The Lost unlocks the Holy Mantle
>8 (EIGHT) turns to actually utilize friend ball
>whatever you caught will likely instadie in the room you use it anyway
>have to wait another eight rooms to use it again
who comes up with these numbers
Too bad, faggot, Egg Muck only nerfs good items, bad items will stay shit forever.
If anything he'll make it a 6-charger for complaining about it, because he's le epic master troll man.
>find chocolate milk
>"oh shit does this synergize? did i just win?"
>but it's total dogshit
>just like mom's knife
I feel like Brimstone isn't any better either.
Why are all the good items fucking terrible as Lilith?
>That feel when working on a Fan Balance Patch mod
Can't wait to make EVERYTHING in game good.
edmund please rip your dick off and throw it down a storm drain
got a -38 streak trying to beat Greed mode with The Lost
taking a break at the moment to see if anyone's got any hints
I got the leech and daddy long legs in the first level but no gnawed leaf once, made it to the womb I think, but got killed by something that spawned on top of me
>the lost unlocks the holy mantle
I NEED THIS
Accuracy, for one.
Also, it felt like the tear damage is WAY below what Choc Milk should be.
Also, if you have ANY FAMILIAR AT ALL, your second/third incubus will trail way behind you, making it impossible to hit with it.
Same shit with Mom's Knife, it feels like it's doing way less damage, and it has an extremely limited range.
>health straight scales with your damage
>can't even cheese it by gimping yourself against its first form, it just fucking knows your damage stat
>Lil Haunt, Pinking Shears, Best Bud, flies and spiders etc refuse to aggro to it
>Hush flies and Hushlings can be charmed but won't hit Hush OR each other
what a fucking poorly designed boss
no creative mechanics allowed, all you're meant to do is fucking turret it with tears
for real? because i totally ignored the lost in rebirth, and only this week started in earnest trying to clear shit; my streak is at like -300, and i was starting to consider just cheating in a starting mantle on the lost, but if there's actually a legitimate way to get it, i'm all ears.
Not a fan of health scaling, but I fucking love the fact that he's a bullet hell boss.
I personally just think he should have an insanely high HP stat instead of scaling, so if you're low damage you're fucked unless you can bullshit your way around, but you wouldn't have beat Mom's Heart in 30 minutes then, would you?
No, not for real. The joke is that once you've done all that already you probably never want to play that faggot ever again, and wouldn't even need the Mantle anymore.
Because it's A) Something that dickhead Egg Mud would do, and B) Like old games where you have to beat every mode on hard to unlock cheats. Like why even bother at that point?
>Pay to Play challenge
>get 2 of diamonds as a drop in depths 1
>oh good, maybe I can prolong my run until I get to cathedral at least
>get gold bomb, bomb every rock on the level
>find black market
>donate to bum cause lel infinite money
>he drops infinite shop restock item
>current shop has battery for sale
I dont know why but playing her makes me unreasonably mad
Havent managed to even get past the womb or boss rush after 5 runs
I think lillith is good
I don't fucking know why my game does this when I prntscreen
I'm finding I love Box of Friends + Anything that supports it.
Something about having 2 Lil Brimstones side by side feels so right to me, like traditional top down shooter orbitals.
Tyrone pretty much confirmed in Cobalt's stream that the rest of the content will unlock tonight at 11, 109 hours after launch. It also took 109 hours for dataminers to unlock the Lost after Rebirth's launch. They intentionally time-locked a large amount of content to "troll" people.
I know there are some fuckers here who love the taste of Edmund's dick. I'd like to hear you try to justify the tantrum this grown-ass man has thrown.
I wont if they were just locking things for spite reasons.
Not really upset though since they are releasing it rather soon and for free. Just confused
If there was a puzzle this whole time and just wanted to stop dataminers then I'm fine with it
So fun thing. I stopped playing a while back when Afterbirth was announced, figuring I was late to the part with getting Rebirth, I might as well wait until the DLC is here and play everything.
Dumb move, I know, I could have been unlocking things.
Afterbirth comes out and naturally I jump straight into Greed Mode.
Not pictured since I was too slow, but this wave was both of the Angels at the same time. Meanwhile, it's worth noting, this save has never even fought It Lives!, I still encounter Mom's Heart. I thought the Angels were unlock determined and you couldn't encounter them until you had unlocked them, but Greed doesn't seem to care, it threw both of them at me at once.
Not that it mattered with Ludovico on Azazel (was unlocking Lilith), but still. Kinda a surprise.
END MY FUCKING LIFE I JUST WANT TO FIGHT MEGA SATAN
You can legitimately break the game with this combo by getting Libra first.
>going for dark room lilith hard clear
>walk into blue womb because I think I'm hot shit and could use the extra items to clear sheol faster (even though I already killed hard mode hush as her)
>die while giving the last hit to hush
>before his death animation plays, Laz' rags trigger
>completely forgot I had that item, was literally going to not pick it up at first but I did anyways
>unlock achievements for Laz hardmode hush kill
I mean if I wasn't a retard I'd have done it on purpose, but the game literally MADE me do it. If I didn't die who KNOWS how long it'd have taken me to kill Hush with Laz.
Lilith + Box of Friends + Car Battery + 9 Volt Battery + any additional familiars = so many familiars they even stop following you. Just be sure to never leave the room until you've killed all the waves.
>Do blue bomber
>Satan is immune to kamikaze
>Edmund's face: :^)
Was /v/ consulted during the development? because this game ain't fucking fun to play anymore, I got almost every challenge done but Blue Bomber and Speed, I have gotten to Satan many times but I can't do shit, none of us do damage to each other. What kind of retarded bug is this?
Really even without all that it's too easy with Lilith. Each wave counts as a room, and Box of Friends is a 2 room charge, so every 2 waves you get to use it. By the boss waves you got 5x your familiars.
Batteries, Nun's Habit, or anything else, is gravy.
What in the actual fuck has just happened to me?
>There are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who think Libra is shit
I'm not picking up shit I quit the run
No fucking angel rooms until Womb XL and then Joker card took me to Satan on Cathedral AND Chest
what a bunch of fucking idiots responsible for this shit
>2 rooms before moms heart
>little tard tripped on the spikes and loses 3 hearts
>3 hearts left
>go into super secret room
>invisible charging demons
>play Guardian challenge
>Get all the way to the scarred womb 2
>10 normal containers all full
>High movement speed
>all is fine
>retard walks into red poop
Has this happened to anyone else? I was really pissed.
>No soy milk
>Get soy milk
Just finished a 15 minute extreme ass clenching workout with the lost.
>beat mom with 2 1/2 spirit hearts
>check boss rush
>joker card, don't even know if it works
>2 fucking demon assholes right next to me
>move down, hit space
>something blows up
>shoots me into a 3-heart deal
thanks, that book of sin was really helpful
>champion cave boss on the basement
Why is this allowed