Life support edition
When asking for help, trading, or applying to any guild, post your character name and specify which server you're on.
>To join a guild
Open the guild window and search for the guild (You must search 'no fun' or 'pawnshop' for the NA guilds)
>Apply for guild membership
Post in the general with your name and your server to let us know you have applied, you may also whisper a guild admin to speed up this process.
(We do this so that we know you're from /vg/ and not some filthy fucking pub.)
>Guilds
EAST: No Fun Allowed, ch. 123 | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/thisisntmonsterhunter
WEST: Pawnshop Ghosts, ch. 179 | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/wvgv
AUS: TeaChasers | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vindictusAU
EU: FilthyCasuals, ch. 130
FAQ: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1co4GIMfjHB_-EUrOdfbsGQDKA54pLqVwJjzmoi7h4gA
Item comparison tool: http://ambitionwest.com/shippuu/Compare/
Free NX Guide: http://pastebin.com/NtBep0VE
I was wondering where this went. Is the game still shit? Stopped playing several months ago. Is S3 out yet?
>>121117025
S3 is indeed out. I started playing 2 weeks ago and i've gotta say i'm loving it so far, i'm currently level 80.
I think that if i haven't been lucky with the scroll drops i would've started hating the game too desu, getting money is too inconsistent in this game.
>>121117215
I don't know why i typed that "desu" but what i actually wanted to type was "desu". Is the EU guild still active? I haven't seen anyone with the tag "FilthyCasuals" around channel 1
>>121117387
I blame Nishimura.
>Want to come back to Vindictus
>Can't will myself to do it
Shit sucks yo
>>121118625
>want to come back to vindictus
>did so
>it's fucking fun.
s2 a shit though.
>>121116271
haha all my friends are dead hahaha spent a solid hour an a half in the hopes of getting even one other fucking person to help with raids haha still had to solo the golem and Ingkells haha now I have to do another 4 raids solo because this MMO is a fucking graveyard haha tried to buy some gear on marketplace but there's literally nothing outside of lvl 90 gear haha what a great game gonna go have a full fledged conversation with a dog in colhen on channel 1 to fight off this crippling lonliness and depression I've looted from playing a massively multiplayer game solo despite added everyone I've seen to friends and spamming subscribe to every guld with an english name hahahaha
>>121119612
I think you're overreacting
>>121116271
>Want to come back to Vindictus
>oh wait IP Block
>i never play it in the first place
>game is dying
>lets blame it on the players and close down the server :->
>>121119612
>can't find people to ingkells and golem
>literally nothing outside of lvl 90 gear on the marketplace
location? the game is still fairly alive in yurop
>>121119612
Low level content is dead in every MMORPG, that I have played. At least in Vindi. it's easy to solo and takes like two weekends to get to the endgame.
>>121119938
You can play on EU, if you somehow get an old account. I live in Latvia (a country in European Union) and I can't register a new account either, but still can play, because I started before the block.
>>121119493
Most of S2 is good. Island, Graveyard and Desert has some really good bosses, although they kinda ruined Island and Graveyard by repeatedly nerfing them. Misty is meh though. S2 raids are good too, Iset and Crom are one of the best raids in the game, Havan, Enzo and Panth. are fun, easy battles. Only bad S2 raid is Bark, even Kraken and Laki. are kinda fun now and then. Only bad thing about S2 now, is that everyone is way overgeared, no fun in a full party.
>>121121679
just get everyone to do naked runs, thats what i do when i get bored
This game is incredibly perplexing to me. Such a weird mishmash of the absolute worst and best. Why are there problems unsolved that were there from the very start? Why is the european version blatantly worse at places?
Why is the gameplay so good, yet the players seem to insist to play it like a generic number-focused mmo? Everything about the game feels absolutely uncanny when I play it.
>>121126492
straight up semen demon.
I'm experiencing a bug where every item violently bounces off the floor. it's hilarious.
but it makes my hand bombs just bounce away into the horizon
>>121117387
Channels are fucked and 130 is where we're to be found, only in 1 to sell stuff.
Where are the Lynn Posters???
>>121132634
dead and gone
>>121126493
> Why are there problems unsolved that were there from the very start?
Like what? I feel like they have radically changed the game over the years, sometimes for worse, sometimes for better, but they have tried so many things, that I don't think there's anything remaining from the "very start". Only problem that remains, is what people call "unresponsive controls", which has been true to a varied extent.
> Why is the european version blatantly worse at places?
NA is worse at places, CN is worse than both, even KR is worse at some places.
> players seem to insist to play it like a generic number-focused mmo?
If you're complaining about restricted boats, then join a decent guild. You're judged by numbers, because there's nothing else to judge you by on a public boat. Geared random > poor random.
Is the US version still region locked?
Here's something funny I stumbled upon:
forum.gamer com tw/C.php?bsn=16583&snA=56948
A Chinese guide on how to play Vindicuts on the NA server. Some good stuff there, the cultural differences section is actually very fascinating, from what I can understand with Google Translate.
> US version players although the speech was very casual, but they are quite comply with the rules. Mouth would say swearing (not for people) or color-color words, in fact, there is nothing malicious. Do things swearing is homely thing on the Web, because swearing can help relieve tension and pressure of the atmosphere (not to speak too loudly to be heard family members).
> When going to the player transactions, please also consider other circumstances. Do not bargain to raise prices to the extent reasonable. After the transaction, please say "Thank you and good doing business with you. (Thanks, very happy to do business with you.)" As a thank.
> But if you say to a terrorist attack the United States, then this will lead to the US Department of Justice investigation, it will be brought in solitary confinement. (Not seen people do it, but please do not try to commit to the body.)
> Furthermore, homosexuality in the United States and Canada are starting widespread, but it is still in the so-called "gray zone." Hong Kong Taiwan or relative and have allowed the marriage bias. In the United States serving the camp who will support and opposition. But still do not participate in this topic.
>>121136650
>But if you say to a terrorist attack the United States, then this will lead to the US Department of Justice investigation, it will be brought in solitary confinement. (Not seen people do it, but please do not try to commit to the body.)
Kek
>>121136650
>Furthermore, homosexuality in the United States and Canada are starting widespread
Double kek.
Also,speaking of homos,Hagie when?
>>121126493
A decent amount has to do with the different directors the game has had over its life. The first one got promoted to work on a more important game due to the success of this game and was replaced with the next person in-line, a guy infamous for turning every game he touches into shit. IIRC his reasoning for adding +11-15 weapon enhancement was that it would help out new players.
The weird balance stuff has a lot to do with them ignoring test server feedback for a long time coupled with going from testing with set gear, where everyone used a +10 Ivory, Hilder set and had no titles, to whatever gear players had on live servers. All that resulted in a cascade of dumb decisions that eventually got removed via nerfs months later anyways like Kraken and Lakoria def buff,S2 dungeons, and "real" jump. There's a lot of half assed stuff that will probably never get finished or really fleshed out due to things like this. Keep in mind when asked if armor would deviate from being plate+strength and cloth+int their response was anything else would "be too much work" since they would have to rebalance all sets in the game.
>>121135830
I always thought it was funny that your character always turns clockwise by default, the only way to override it and turn left is by holding forward and using the mouse to the adjust the camera. Only ever an issue while using Vella's old crosscut since the cinematic camera shift made it hard to compensate for it.
So with the Karok Update probably already hit Korea (if they kept to their schedule), when can we expect that to hit the West?
And did they keep to their November projection for the Kai and Vella Updates?
(And does anyone know how to carbon freeze a Lynn? I think mine would be better off not feeling the loneliness of the bottom tier for the year it will take to update Hurk, give him a second weapon, and finally come around to her.)
>>121121679
>Iset
>Good
Let's design a boss which is the size of a player character, and expect timing-based characters to be able to dodge her attacks when there are 6 people wailing on her and she's entirely impossible to see!
>>121126492
>>121126620
All me
How can season 1 raids be so good and how can season 2 raids be so bad
So i'm completely tuck right now. I'm at level 77, and now to level i've gotta do raids alright. but every fucking group only accepts people waaaaaay above the raid's reccomended level to do it faster and there is absolutely no one trying to do them that is around my level, it's just 90s. I love this game and i really tried my best to understand it and get good at it but this is getting frustrating.
>inb4 thread dies again while i actually have time to post relevant stuff later
>>121155195
just try level up to 80
every day it will be more and more annoying to find a raids where you wont be kicked, even if its a seemingly non-restricted pt (if somebody hosts dem raids at all)
do sg/td/cmi runs (or even peaks), if no party for them, try to solo the bosses you can take on at least
do rocheste master/valor, etc runs for a bit of change too
+finish your s1/s2 quests, if you haven't done them yet
also, don't bother with colhen/rocheste raids (except lio/keagh for WB.) they give really poor Xp
>Tfw i've been reduced to farming useless titles like kicking 1000 gnolls and 100 Revenge battle
We're beyond dead at this point,we've started to rot away.
>>121156402
Not on my watch.
>>121141292
I wouldn't expect to see the Karok revamp in NA until January, same with Hagie.
>>121155195
I feel awful for people in your position, on their first character and trying to get equipped with 80 gear. The power gap between 70 and 80 level gear is so large that people don't really want level 70's on their boats, because it makes that much of a difference in the boss fight.
The best advice would be what >>121157406 has given you, try leveling up to 80 and then use your seals of bravery to help you craft an 80 weapon as soon as you can. I'd skip the armor until 90, because 90 armor is far cheaper than 80.
>>121141292
Karok might be bundled in Dec or come out in Jan. No way they would skip ep4 for the holidays - that would be the death of Vindictus.
>>121163646
So Hagie for this month?Please be so...
>>121163646
>Karok might be bundled in Dec or come out in Jan.
I doubt it'll come with episode 4 since the updates are scarce as it is.Bundling 2 of them together would make the game go through a huge drought later on.
>>121167420
I don't think it'll be this month, maybe December. They like releasing characters then.
>miss a day of the bingo
>think "there's going to be a chance to get numbers I missed somehow"
>if you missed it the number is gone for good
10/10 nexon, great event
>>121170664
It's either Ep4 with Karok or Karok in January as far as I see it.
Ep4 has to be there since there's nothing motivating players to return and spend $$$ on shit. I don't think Haggie is getting as much hype as Arisha.
>>121176392
Last bingo event there was coupons that could be exchanged at the end for numbers you missed. Not sure why they didn't include that in this time.
What's worth spending your AP on in the AP shop, dye ampoules? I already like my inners and hair how they are.
>>121182354
Save your AP to blow weapons up. That's the whole point of Vindictus
>>121184420
But what if I already have a +15? Should I make another?
>>121135921
The NA servers will always be region locked. If you're in Australia, they have an AUS server run by Nexon NA.
>>121176392
>nexon eu holds a survey
>what is your favourite event?
>none of the events listed are available on EU servers
>only event we get is double experience hour at the weekend
>tfw its not on the list
10/10 nexon, made me jealous about not playing fucking bingo
>>121193159
>>what is your favourite event?
>>none of the events listed are available on EU servers
holy shit
>>121193159
Are you autistic? All thoses events were available at some point on EU.
>>121187670
make the second weep of your class to +15
When is Lugh coming? I just bought all of my solid shards today...
>>1212021452016
>>121202145
is it worth to wait for lugh equips anyway
>tfw you blow up your 90 weapon and Ferghus doesn't even give back the feather
>>121206550
Probably not, the light/cloth enchants give a bonus of 35 attack per scroll, so even if you have 5 of them its not going to make any difference.
>>121208353
>meanwhile other people keep selling 2x same feather every day
>tfw no pumpkin map since like 3 days
is it even possible to get into that area on daily battles?
>>121210640
>right after this post next battle started with pumpkin guy
>also a daily
>it even the right char i would need the title on
well then
>>121160914
>>121157406
Thanks, i will. Luckily i dropped an Enthusiastic scroll while helping a friend's sub questing in hero mode so buying a level 80 weapon shouldn't be a problem.
>The general still exists.
Is this game good to newcomers or will I be hard pressed to find players willing to help me in trouble spots? Unless of course content can easily be done solo.
>>121212771
that's good
sooner or later luck always comes
>buying a level 80 weapon shouldn't be a problem
just don't buy something like +5..+8 80's with leo, twinkling, etc,
if not planning to +10 it, it's just a waste to unbind it later
>>121214983
Well shit. I saw kep following the marketplace all day and as soon as i found someone willing to sell it for really cheap i bought it. Well, good thing i still have 3 unbind potions then
>>121215220
>3 unbind potions
It's going to take a minimum of 6 for any weapon that's bound to you.
>>121215342
I don goofed
>>121196542
>allergic duck is allergic to its own feathers
be quack or be ded
Am I missing something? why is the accessory market being flooded with lv70-80 s2 rings and shit?
Anyone on West got some Executioner's Thorns to spare? I just hit 80 and want to make some gear
Is there some trick to clearing 70-80 quests in S2 solo at ~lvl70? I got to some pirate motherfucker and he wipes the floor with me. Kielu was similar but I at least I felt I had a chance in that fight even if it took forever. Do I just need a group of 80-90s for this shit?
>>121217252
practice, if your doing story you usually dont have to wait long for someone to join
>played BnS CBT over the weekend
>"gee the combat feels like shit, I could be playing vindictus right now"
>remember that I played only Lynn, who is literally extra baggage in S3 boats now
>tfw don't have the willpower to log in now
I had it coming, but I ignored it.I should've played that tittyslut arisha instead
Anyway, is east alive or is it still dead with 3-5 members on max?
>>121217935
Just make a karok and prepare for top tier damage when the revamp rolls around. Boring cestus shit but top tier all the same.
>>121216047
You could say it's being filled withJewery.
Some speculation on the topic:
http://vindictus.nexon.net/Community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1492513-Empowered-stones-90K-why%26nxid%3D15
Currently downloading since the combat system seems more engaging & involved compared to other MMOs my friends usually get me to play. I thinking of playing as Lynn unless there's some characters I should avoid.
Any tips or things I should know before getting started? I guess one big question I have is how is equipment progression in this game? Should I not worry about it at all until high levels?
>>121220939
>how is equipment progression in this game? Should I not worry about it at all until high levels?
yes
don't spend unnecessarily until 80+, you have to worry about gear only around lvl70
you are good to go with any random trash equip until lvl60s
don't buy items +9/+10 and r9 scrolls or higher if you don't want to keep it for a long time, it will bound to you
main concern will be only the weapon (and at 70+ accessories too)
armor is just what isn't too expensive, def won't save you anyway
>unless there's some characters I should avoid.
there are worse and better chars (in terms of dps and how fun/boring or easy/hard to play they are)
but none of them are terribly bad, just go by gameplay vids
also, the battles will be more about bossraids than mobs in the endgame, so isn't neccesary to decide by how the char goes against mobs
If you leveling, do the quests too, main quest and many side quests give meaningful xp
many people quit because there is a high jump at 80-90 in gear and requirements being put on boats, but with time this can be overcome (unlike other mmos, lvling isn't takes that long, but getting good gear does)
>>121220939
I don't know if you're still here but here's my pro tips.
Play through the game normally as if it's a single player action game. Around level 45-50 is when battles start to get difficult and you'll want to party up with another person.
You don't need to spend money on new armor until things start to 2shot you. This will happen around later levels 40, 50, 60, 70, etc. Weapons are the same--try to upgrade your weapon every 10 or 20 levels. Equipment should be fairly cheap on the auction house and most of it doesn't bind to you so you can sell them afterwards.
My last advice is to look up videos on youtube of your character. Videos like raid solos or speed solos give you a slight hint of how the playstyle looks like at endgame.
You're also welcome to join your respective server's /vg/ guild and ask questions. We're usually friendlier than other game communities.
Not even Dr. Manhattan himself can save it.
>>121223331
>>121225015
Great, thanks for the replies. Kind of relieved with equipment not being a problem for a while so as I can just focus on learning the mechanics of my character first and foremost. Not too hung up on playing "meta" or anything - I usually take up the spearman/lancer class in games so Lynn caught my eye first.
Will look into joining the /vg/ guild west after I get a couple hours into the game to familiarize myself with it!
>>121214926
It's quite easy to level up solo, if you drop down the difficulty to Easy later and don't mind grinding a bit. But to farm any worthwhile content you will have to group up.
>>121229269
Regarding skills, AP is unlimited and you will max all of them, but it will take a long time, so prioritize skills that unlock abilities and skills that increase damage by a percentage, instead of skills that give a fixed benefit. Smash Mastery, Critical Hit, Battle Respiration, HP Potion Proficiency and Life Flare are good, rest of the common skills can be ignored for a while, except for weapon & armor Proficiency skills as needed. With Lynn, you have to level your skills to a certain rank, to unlock the ability to make golden orbs with the right timing, which is very important and what Lynn is all about. Lynn has a lot of SP skills, but focus on Flying Snow and Jade Fox for now, rest are more or less situational and arguably they can be ignored entirely.
>>121202145
me on the right.
really old player here thinking of coming back. theres really nothing interesting out there, all games just plain suck.
i remember quiting back when season 2 hit due to the major dissapointment it was + all the jumping and game mechanics changes really sucked. i read up a bit and it seems the players thought the same.
i can see they made tons of game changes, but is it still as repetetive as before? is the game overall a huge number wanking? do people have to pay to compete (PVE)?
i played in NA, am a proxy user, im not going to start all over again in EU. heard its worse there and those idiots chose the XE version, little difference now i suppose...
so, are proxy users still shuned upon? is the game worth getting back to? is loging as a proxy user harder/easier? i remember it constantly being battled like they wanted the game to die faster..
i mained evie. had others too but i dont really remember. the changes look interesting, so many new chars too.. will probably have to make an extra account eventualy..
>>121236147
forgot to mention, is pubing better now? is the game "alive" on most hours or am i screwd playing in NA off hours?
>>121119938
1. Install Bitvise to connect to a proxy
2. Create a free 3-day account on fastssh.com (it's quick)
3. Config Bitivise to use that proxy and open a port on your own machine to use it
4. Use Proxifier Portable to direct Vindictus.exe port 27015 to the port you opened with Bitvise
5. Play game
Sounds like a pain, but it's pretty easy and you do it only once. Except for the account on fastssh which you need to create again every 3 days.
By redirecting only port 27015, you still keep a p2p connection to other players, which prevents you from lagging too much.
>>121236147
> is it still as repetetive as before?
Yes. Do daily raids, farm maps, farm AP, farm titles, it's a MMORPG, all of them are repetitive.
> is the game overall a huge number wanking?
Sure. Getting better and better equipment is what the game is about... it's a MMORPG after all.
> do people have to pay to compete (PVE)?
Kinda. It's not a competitive game to begin with and if you want to do top damage, then which character you play matters a lot. But sure, it's a lot easier to gear up, if you don't mind spending money, it's a F2P game after all. Not sure how it is in NA, but plenty of people play at a "competitive" level without spending any money on EU (Tir and NX gifting).
> is the game worth getting back to?
If you like the combat. The core gameplay hasn't changed, it's still the same game. Well, depends how long ago you played, comparing Vindictus at release with how it is now, the game has become faster and easier, but maybe it's just me...
>>121237196
>its a MMORPG
yeah actualy thats fair enough i guess.. not sure why i asked those questions.
>faster and easier
how the hell can it get easier though? i remember finished season 1 with buddies, we steamrolled the damn thing and it was underwhelming..
the story was always great though so its so damn worth it,tieve.. ;_;
is the unnecessary platforming and silly jumps to avoid attacks rather than using your invul frames and or char mechanics still a thing? i really, really hated that. premiere version became XE and it got so goddamn silly..
>>121237476
should mention that i started playing around season 1 episode 4 update, pretty damn long ago.
i quit around a month or two of season 2 release due to proxy and game being a dissapointment issues.
loged once iirc a few monthes ago to use AP and see how things are going, didnt last more than an hour because it felt.. empty.
>>121237476
Although, it's less repetitive now than ever, because they didn't make S2 content obsolete, like they made S1 with S2 release. Now you have to do S3 for weapon and armor and S2 for accessories and enchants. On EU, S3 maps are the most profitable content, then S2 raids, while S3 raids are only in 3rd place.
> how the hell can it get easier though?
They added Easy mode and S1 gives more EXP, leveling is a joke, can be done in one or two weekends, that's not necessary bad, but yes... But the biggest change is in character design, they make characters easier to play - give them better survivability, more mobility and more damage. There is a change in raid design too, later in S2 all raids started having some non-combat mechanism, that you have to pay attention to, sometimes it make the raid more interesting, but sometimes it's all that the raid has going for itself. It's not that new raids are pushovers, there are some really good ones, but I haven't seen a party wiping over and over trying to complete a raid, like it was with S1 Glas release, for example. Maybe it's just me playing the game too much and overgearing. There are people who complain about unfair difficulty, so who knows. Regarding difficulty, one really cool thing is Niflheim raids, no reviving and no CC there, they're seriously good and take good time to master for most characters.
> silly jumps
They removed jumping and redesigned those bosses. That jumping introduced in S2 wasn't really a XE thing and XE still has the original jumping, but same as on NA, there's no reason to use it. They keep trying to add attacks that can't be dodged, they added unblockable attacks in S1 and those are still here, but have been made easier to block; in S2 they added jumping, then removed it; in S3 they added "red" attacks, that are kinda like unblockable, but can't be blocked in any case, have to move out of their range. I actually like "red" attacks, they add more variety to the combat.
s4e4 when
>>121234258
W-which one...?:>
>>121236147
>i played in NA, am a proxy user, im not going to start all over again in EU.
If you really an old player coming back then your stuff probably isn't worth anything much anyway, so you can just start on EU and lvling a char to 60-70s isn't that a big hassle
>heard its worse there and those idiots chose the XE version
the "XE version" thing is just a stupid phrase going around, there isn't that a big difference in gameplay to consider proxy to NA from the eu (except sperg lann)
>is the game worth getting back to?
if you liked the gameplay back then, then is worth checking back anyway
just have to decide later if want to stay for farming to gear up endgame equips
>but is it still as repetetive as before? is the game overall a huge number wanking? do people have to pay to compete (PVE)?
yes and no
usually, if not having 18k+ then regular s2 and s3 runs is off the possibilities
but you can still find ffa parties from time to time
on a note, a +10 lvl80 weap will net you that att, costs around 10-15kk
a starter lvl90 weap is like 15kk, a gold amount what you will get by just lvling, saving up quest reward gold and random stuff you get meanwhile, +selling older equip
and getting endgame gear is somewhat cheaper now, but still can take time
also, starter lvl90 armor is even more stupidly cheap, 100-200k compared to 1-2kk lvl80 parts
before s3, lvl80 weap was 40-50kk at least and each armor part was 15-25kk
>>121239519
this post makes me happy.
>>121242515
i dont know about value of things but i do know time spent and current position, you tell me, pic related is my main, got a fiona and a lann slightly lower. less "funded".
>XE version is a stupid phrase
i honestly dont know about now but it used to be a monumental difference in enemy and boss AI, base animations, stamina, combos, all the shit S2 brought and what ruined the game for me.
>farming stuff to get back
i dont mind that, MMORPGs right?
>weapons and costs
i seem to have that amount, for weapons atleast.
>inflation and shit
yeah i figure, thanks.
alright, just need a stable enough way to log and play and im off.
thanks anons.
also again, some feedback about my char please?
>>121244484
You can stick with wonderland all through 90. My Evie is still using enchanted wonderland with a 90 weapon. If you think things are actually getting through mana shields too often, look into power infusion. Infusing DEF onto 60 armor is pretty cheap.
>>121242515
>15kk, a gold amount what you will get by just lvling
That doesn't sound right at all. I doubt you will get 5m from leveling. Unless they changed quest gold rewards.
>>121244484
Evie now is the easiest character to play, while doing the highest damage (at least in top 3). But level 60 equipment isn't worth anything. If your Wonderland is Well-Balanced & Enthusiastic/Force scrolled, then you can continue using it, otherwise you'll replace it as soon as you can equip level 90 stuff. Only thing worth anything might be lv70/lv80 accessories, but they're cheap for Evies anyway.
> i seem to have that amount
On NA, which is worth way, way less than on EU. Prices differ between servers a lot.
> just need a stable enough way to log and play
If you can't get it to work, might as well try EU. Gameplay differences are kinda negligible. The biggest difference between servers is in management and EU has it somewhat better, with cheaper NX items, Tir and allowed NX selling.
>>121244687
great then, is plate evie still a thing or did they kill that meme somehow?
>>121245637
neat, i always liked her since day 1, runes and old firebolt and shit was hilarious.
i miss being a healing bunny with a mean kick. ;_;
my wonderland isnt finished but yeah its close.
currently cant play due to family being over so i cant actualy start sorting shit. sigh.
>>121246614
>reading mainsite to catch up on shit
>open mainsite
>missed an amazing event with amazing shit
>fucking wings
>desu armour
>cosplay and paint out the ass
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>>121246614
>is plate evie still a thing or did they kill that meme somehow?
It's a bit strange now, lv90 Plate has exactly the same stats as lv90 Cloth, in fact all lv90 armor sets have exactly the same stats, same as all lv90 weapons have the same stats. That's a consequence of changing how lv90 equipment is crafted.
The only difference between Plate, Heavy, Light and Cloth is in which armor proficiency you need to level up and which enchants you can put on them. They also released new enchants for all armor types, which are better than old enchants we had and which are very similar between armor types. So it's still that enchanted Plate has higher DEF than Cloth and Cloth has higher DPS than Plate, but the difference is small.
Regarding Evie specifically, now Plate Evie is more of a thing than ever, because Mana Shield benefits from DEF.
>>121249416
i see. neat, wont that make evie the literal best at everything though?
>can finnaly play
>log in
>maintence
>oh for fucks sake how long wi-
>5 fucking hours
just fuck my shit up senpai
>>121249662
She pretty much is the best at everything right now. Partially that's because they started revamping all characters, Lann got a revamp that made him really good too; Fiona got a revamp that improved her, but not that dramatically; Karok is next and looks like he will be very powerful too. So by the time they're done with revamps, Evie probably won't be the best character anymore, although hard to imagine a character with better survivability than scythe and staff.
Apparently cestus is now a top deeps contender according to Junyoop, but he also mentioned that it's buggy.
Pillar looks pretty sweet now too.
Is there anywhere we can look to see what all has actually changed?
>>121250738
>Evie probably won't be the best character anymore,
Only Scythie was arguably the best, and even then it was a toss-up between her and Sword Lann/Hurk.
>>121116271
Question, are the private servers for this game legit?
I live in latin america, and they decided to make this thing region locked.
I live in Latin America if it matters.
>inb4 hue hue.
>>121250738
>>121256338
good info, thanks.
>>121261094
tried searching for ones over the years but i guess not, i mean itl be famous if there were right?
do theye ever finish maintence early? i want to actualy play.
>>121262364
Very rarely, if it is, then it's a half hour early or less.
>>121263860
sigh, thanks.
>>121236524
i seem to be retarded and cant follow simple instructions, im having trouble in step 3 and above.
please have mercy for it by the grace of god that i can wipe myself.
thank you.what do
NA release timeline revised for Ancient Glas update, finally have a chance to post this now that the general is alive again.
We last had a 1 month break between updates four years ago for S1E8
>>121256338
Are there videos of people playing the new pillar? I haven't heard anything about it.
>>121269705
Haven't used that, but I messed around with SoftEther VPN for EU. Stupid easy to setup and use, also free. Lagged like hell though, but depends how good of a server you happen to find. If nothing else works, could give it a try.
>>121275704
It's been a long time since we had a new character,Hagie for November update!+shy
>>121278068
Juny has at Crom solo. This is good too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP_veVanplw
Not enough sluts and ERP to keep this general alive.
>>121281307
I'll be your slut bb
>log in for once
>only 4 people online in NFA
>log off
Can this game be even saved anymore?
Without the general being up this past while there's been so few applicants to NFA. I'm not sure what would happen if the general dies again and there's someone that applied. You can't exactly tell them to go post in a dead general to verify.
>>121283936
Maybe if we had a golden time event.
How's your luck guys?
I'm guessing the majority use M/KB for this game? Are you essentially gimping yourself for certain content if you use a controller due to the differences in camera control or are they not much different?
>>121285396
I dont play with a controller but ive heard that they arent very different. You wont be at an disadvantage for playing with a controller.
I think the only restriction youll have is that you cant play Kai? Someone correct me if im wrong about that.
>>121285780
>You wont be at an disadvantage for playing with a controller.
Think I remember hearing, that the biggest problem is the hotbar and throwing spears.
>>121284185
>Maybe if we had a golden time event
That would be for the event period only and then everyone would do into deep hibernation mode again.
H A G I E
Have a good day, vindictus general.
>>121244484
yes, lvl70 it isn't that high to start over, but together with that high ap count and gear maybe you are better of sticking with NA then
>boss AI, base animations, stamina, combos, all the shit S2 brought
boss ai and animations are same, combo counter as an extra doesn't makes eu any worse, the only actual gameplay difference how attacks and running goes with stamina (and that doesn't makes premiere version better)
and yeah, s2 jumping gimmicks got revamped and that jump removed, the s1 style jump what eu got, has no any gameplay advantage
just telling this as a misc info, don't have to change your mind based only on this, (but if don't want to hassle with proxy/vpn or finding pts seems harder cause of the different timezones and lag becomes a problem cause of the distance, then eu gameplay isn't worse if you thinking about changing servers)
Tis the season.
>>121302294
>Halloween barely ended
>It's still November
>Christmas decorations and mood is already being pushed
I'm being triggered.
bunp
>>121309019
>the forge
>no sign of broken weapon+armor pieces or bottles of strawberry brandy+enhancement stones on the floor
>that fucking bottle of Sprite
0/10 would not visit.
>headrush
I hope they make tent attacks true unblockable and increase s2 attack again, these runs are garbage
>>121309945
also
>+0 toy weapons
>>121311161
They're actually nerfing some S2 bosses instead.
>>121299269
Fucking gooks, man...
>>121217935
>shitty lynnposter realizes that he's a kek for vindictus and there's nothing else left in life for him
lol
>also still believing vindictus has the best combat system
so, Enhancement won't reset for sure when replacing secondary mats, right?
>>121316718
No.
Can someone in NFA accept Kamatte and Sirscha? Just started again.
Just came back to this, have an 85 Lann with 19k attack, what do I run to make money now?
>>121316184
>believing vindictus has the best combat system
PvE wise vindi comes out slightly better than BnS. Literally no one does PvP in vindi other than for artifacts so I won't bother critiquing it.I still like lynn and I would never toss her aside, maybe I should get the iset outfitter for her while it's still cheap
>>121322169
ben chenner for purples, oranges, godly ores and other random mats
>>121322381
What makes Lynn bad in S3? is every boss like Titan and 10 stack flinches make them reset attacks or something?
>Look up gameplay for Blade and Soul
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnzFxq2hSgU
Are you fucking kidding me? Someone thinks this trash is anywhere near the level Vindictus combat?
>>121322686
I don't think she's able to flinch raids at all. Don't quote me on that, I don't play her.
>>121322381
>>121316184
i dont see this any better or more fun than vindictus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpkC3xoSrcE&feature=youtu.be&t=576
>>121322686
>>121323316 is right, you can't flinch raid bosses anymore with your 10 stack detonation, not even with flying snow either.
>>121323053
It's just dank memes.
Anything with targeted combat is automatically worse than Vindictus.
>>121323053
Every few months some new shitty zoom-all-the-way-out mmo with lockstrafe movement and no hit delay is supposed to kill Vindictus.
Then they say shit like:
>"But you have to dodge things!"
As though walking away from an aoe indicator and going on with your dps rotation is anything special.
>>121322686
S3 is bullshit for Lynn since once the boss's (raid or non-raid) skill animation starts you can't cancel it even with jade fox flying snow/10 SA stack detonation, which in itself fucks her over hard. The only time the flinch does anything is when the boss is idle for the short period there is, and even then you'll end up canceling their idle animation frame and make them start a new attack insteador knock them down if you're lucky
>>121323053
>>121323729
PvE in BnS is a joke, I pretty much soloed through most of the content the time I had last weekend. Main selling point of it imo is the sliderfu simulator.
I'm bored enough to flail about in this game again. They buffed Evie I guess. Is NFA alive still? Applied, Sheiky.
So, as a level 69 Evie without much money... what's my battle plan? Just focus on doing quests and leveling? Do people even do all the easy S1/2 raids anymore?
>>121327816
Aim for level 80, raid as much as you can so you can use seals for 80 equips.
S2 raids drop r7 scrolls and some s1 raids drop well-balanced which is really high in demand now so people run them daily.
>>121327816
If you can get to lvl 90, You can get some cheap gear pretty easily
People still do s2 raids since they drop rank 7 scrolls now
As for s1 raids people mostly just do lionotus, colru, dragons, and keaghan for the scrolls
>>121326309
not just simply buffed, some things about her got revamped too
>>121327816
>Do people even do all the easy S1/2 raids anymore?
from s1 raids only lio+keagh for WB, others don't give anything higher valued or any good xp
and maybe colru+dragons for fun and a chance of leo, berserker, etc for a little income
>>121325793
So every raid is niflheim then? eh doesn't sound that bad
Is it possible to use seals on one character to get gear for another?
>>121329259
You can put it that way. Its just a shame that her only gimmick is considered useless for the newest content, whereas in s1 and s2 boats you were at least relevant.
>>121330067
only with expertise or npc craft only, those mats are bound to char
>>121330809
Ah okay. Buying all the mats and crafting and then trading seems simple enough, any limitations to that?
>2 Element Stones from 7 Raonne pouches
that's neatalthough i would need some Intermediates now
>>121330067
if you make the gear on the character with the seals
>>121331050
NPC craft can make only 2* and limited to the given class weapons-armors, also it's a bit costlier than expertise (and expertise can make it like 3* too)
>>121311558
They haven't got any nerfs recently and I heard we'll getting S2 Hero.
>>121331189
They can even give intermediate stones too.
>>121336750
It's slightly buffed att/def but scaling health. The s2 level brackets are just gonna be changed to 80-90 and I think 70-80, with 70-80 being more like current 50-69.
So, I have a feeling I'm playing arisha wrong or at least poorly
I have 22k m att but I'm usually 4th-2nd. If I get top damage it's usually a run that took 20 minutes or longer
What are some good arisha guides I can look up?
>>121346447
You may need to work on your Crit and Bal. After Attack damage, Crit and Bal helps boost your DPS the most.
For guides, I usually just look at Korean solo videos on Youtube.
>>121348039
I'm only 4 bal short of the cap, not sure about crit
I was more looking for specific names I should look up for videos
>>121325793
>then you'll end up canceling their idle animation frame
I feel like that's a glitch, because 90% of the time it causes the flinching animation for me.
S3 crit cap is 130 tho.
S2 is 110 if I recall correctly.
>run ben chenner duos with decently geared 20k+ staff evies
>we get ~50% dps each
>run ben chenner with a 20k 90 bal evie
>she gets 60%-70%
Jesus christ bal makes such a difference
>>121350002
Juny probably is the most popular:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1nm60Fz3Gz4gBKSQtMQfSVTJqTlwFU_a
>>121353348
Each point in balance is worth 0.5% of DPS. So yes, it adds up. Crit is very good too, because it caps at 50% chance and it's 190% damage.
>>121354146
I've heard you get diminishing returns from 80+ bal though
>mfw this thread again
>mfw its already on page 10 when i found it
>mfw its still dead
>>121350002
Oh yeah, you need to stack crit hard. Crit cap for S2 is 110 and 130 for season 3, so you're way under. Crit is vital to Arisha, so if you can boost that, you'll get way better results.
>>121354331
It's always 0.5%, because balance simply specifies how much your attack damage varies. It's the lower bound in percents, with upper being 100%. So at 50 balance your attacks do damage between 50% and 100% of their full damage, at 90 balance they do between 90% and 100%. Only thing why benefit might seem lower at higher balance, is because RNG can't screw you over as much - at low balance you can get unlucky and do very little damage for a while, while at high balance your damage doesn't vary that much.
How long before game completely dies
>>121360561
it won't
>>121361131
Unlike this thread.
I don't even know what to talk about to bump this thread.
>>121369263
Same. I'd bump with some images butI'm at work posting on my phone
post butts
>>121376303
but she poops from there
>>121373163
why ?
>>121357974
Depends on characters too. For someone like Hurk who focuses on hitting 3-5k with every hit, BAL affects him much more than a class with naturally lower single hit damage.
Is this Lynn being subpar in S3 thing that bad, or the difference negligible?
>>121382894
Since release she has been kinda weak. Too hard to play for how little damage she does, especially on EU. But I don't think she's much worse in S3, than she was in S2.
>>121385278
Fun though, shame we have to wait so long for her revamp, hoping for 2nd weapon sooner than that. Dual dagger Lynn pls!
>>121382894
Your main gimmick is rendered useless in S3 maps, but you can still perform well in general and carry pub boats as long as you know what you're doing. It's just that if you wanted to do lann/evie tier damage and be top dps in every raid you pretty much picked the wrong character to do so.
>>121382894
Negligible on what metric?
Because Lynn is definitely in the lower tier of characters now and will probably bottom out by the end of all the character revamps. She was also mid DPS in exchange for her on-demand flinch, but now that the gimmick is basically gone in S3, she's woefully underpowered.
Perhaps Derpcat could just uncap her skills to r3 or something - that should help a lot.
>>121382894
It's the same as it was in S2 pretty much, she's not bad, just could really be better. If a Lynn is getting top deeps, then your party is probably shit and they're really good.
>>121386458
I'm sort of hoping they'll supplement a full revamp for Hurk, Lynn, and Arisha for some skill tweaks, a skill uncap, an second weapons update.
But I doubt it will happen. ;_;
>>121389813
>full revamp for hurk, lynn and arisha
Only two of those will be put on the fast track and you know which ones they will be
>>121389813
Yes. I understand that they don't think continuous balance changes are as important as in PvP games, but still, they could have done a better job, it's just little number tweaking now and then. Or if you believe Nexon is inherently evil, then they're doing this on purpose, to ensure people move between characters as much as possible.
>class name in IGN
Vella or Arisha
>>121393325
RISHA
>>121393325
Vella is easier to play, swords are strong solo, chains are strong in party (very strong on EU). Swords are still buggy, from what I hear.
Arisha is harder to play, on of the more complex characters, many skills, many options. Little cheaper accessories (INT, not STR). Not sure how good her damage is now, but should be okay.
>>121393325
Dress them up in the avatar shop and let your dick decide for you.
>>121389813
>Arishafags
Stop.
>>121398805
>Arishafags
What's wrong with them?
is crossgun kai faster with or without the smash after the end of the dodge, during travel?
inb4 someone bullies me for buying the shift->smash skill
>>121402928
it's faster with smash
and dodge smash is a good skill to chain before (or after) hollow shots too, when it's possible
>>121404254
But without it I could go directly to bolt revolver
>>121404560
yes, but can go after smash too
on the other hand i'm not a kai pro, so don't rely only on me
>>121405213
Ah, well, whether it's good or not, I have it, nothing I can do about it.
Have a good day, vindictus general.
Haven't played in a while, are passion scrolls still 10m on East?
>>121412008
Saw someone buying one for that price in the megaphone a couple days ago.
>>121412235
Thanks a lot, anon.
>>121412008
They definitely aren't on EU as far as I know. maybe 2m
What level 80 gear should I go for for Evie?
>>121373163
>>121415174
Pirate
is there some way to not have bolt revolver bug the fuck out for no reason 10% of the time?
>>121415174
As Evie, you can definitely skip 80 armor all together. You'll feel like a fool for wasting money on 80 armor when 90 stuff is pennies in comparison, especially since the defense is just so much higher.
>>121421863
Even if im rocking base wonderland?
What's the most brokenly op class?
>>121398918
She doesn't need a buff. She's firmly mid-high tier.
>>121117387
desu desu d e s u t b h
im pretty sure if you say t b h it turns into desu
desu
>>121426627
You can say the same thing with hurk too, but that's not going to stop devcat from breaking the game more than it can already handle.
>>121431416
Does it?
desu senpai
>>121402928
Have you tried dodge -> shoot -> dodge?
>>121434609
no. What does that do?
life support
>>121406794
> max boobs Lynn
How disgusting.
where my brown girls at
>>121423161
Yes, the INT bonus on wonderland is so great that it took 3 tiers of equipment to leave it in the dust. You'll survive until 90.
Don't die
When's Hagie
>>121442056
It's a little faster. You can also fire a shot after a dodge to go into bolt revolver instead of spin smashing.
A R I S H A
>>121457510
I miss the days we could cancel time stop
>>121442072
not even 160cm. Lann sure is a manlet
Any chance of level 100 any time soon?
Anyone knows how many episodes are there supposed to be in season 3 ?
It feels kinda wierd to think that we would already have 75% of all content from season 3.
>>121467448
I dont think so desu
I can't beat miur, what do I do, senpai?
>>121473017
Get help?
>>121473017just buy more (m)att
>>121469843
Should be just 4 in season 3. Just because historically a new season was a big deal, doesn't mean that it has to be that way always. But yes, a bit weird. Guess they simply wanted to do it this way because of the story.
I don't think season 4 will bring anything new, it probably will be the structured the same way as season 3 and raids/maps will drop accessory materials.
>>121467448
I'd say, level 100 can be expected after we get lv90 accessories. Probably lv90 won't last as long as lv80, because they can't keep adding stuff to farm - now all armor and weapons have the same stats, not like with lv80 equipment.
>>121473017
Search for "muir <your class> solo" on YouTube and study that, to figure out what you're doing wrong.
If you're still having trouble, then ask a specific question here. Which class are you playing? Which attack are you having trouble with?
Hell, if you're playing scythe, cestus or Lynn, I can make you a video, I got 0 hits title on with characters.
>>121426627
Everyone's getting a buff, so no use complaining. Plus I need a skill to sink all the SP I have while everything's on cool down.
Embrace the new overpowered characters that will kill any challenge left with this game.
I played vindictus in like.. late 2011 when it first released in EU.
Stumbled on this general, how much has changed? remember it being fun but too grindy
>>121476231
It's still a grindfest, but for gear. Leveling is so easy now that you can get to 90 in about a week or so.
So do people actually think that random instant aoes are a good boss mechanic?
I dont care about raid bosses, its just that cunt Barnacle Bill Simmons
>>121476413
In a week? What's the strategy for levels 70-90? Story quest?
>>121475909
>Everyone's getting a buff
Yeah, but Arisha is going to be last and most likely with a minor buff.
>>121477731
S2 story quests should get you close to 80. Then grind reed bed until you're 90.
/r/inging lewd hagie
>>121478365
>Yeah, but Arisha is going to be last and most likely with a minor buff.
I don't really mind that.I find that she's in a good spot right now so i expect that they'll just uncap her skills a bit and maybe throw in a new sp skill (cause really,i spent most of my time being in full sp with everything on cd).
>>121478706
Also seconding this.
Does combos still not matter in EU?
>>121478365
I'm betting that Hurk and Arisha will get lumped together because neither of them need significant changes.
Lynn deserves a standalone update since she really will be bottom tier DPS when the Karok and TS vella updates hit.
This game was weirdly or poorly optimized from the last time I tried it years ago. Have they done anything to improve it?
>>121486319
Its still pretty terribly optimized
>>121486319
>korean devs
>having even a shred of knowledge on what the definition of optimization is
There's a multithread option when you make your runs "smoother", but apparently it's in beta for years already and it accomplishes nothing but occasionally crashes everyone that joined your run/raid.
Other than that, no improvements whatsoever
>>121487295
That setting doesn't make any difference for me even after checking if it's actually using my other cores.
>>121482914
Indeed. I don't think Hurk and Arisha will get touched that much, but Lynn needs more than just uncaps since her main gimmick is rendered useless these days. Perhaps make it so she gets a guaranteed flinch with all gold stacks or something.
>>121487778
Just give Lynn a new weapon already
>>121487778
>Perhaps make it so she gets a guaranteed flinch with all gold stacks or something.
I've always thought she should have just gotten a major damage boost to her explosions when she gets all gold stacks. Not only would this be a good buff to the characters dps without making her braindead but it would have also given her second sp skill an actual use.
As much as I loved playing Lynn I don't want S3 bosses being like S2&1 where parties full of her are just bouncing the boss back and forth with flinches.
>>121479968
>still not matter
Combos always mattered. Not getting hit still earns you a +50% damage bonus
>>121485321
Glorious
>>121489627
Wait, so when you're not hit, you have 50%+ damage, but as soon as you're hit it disappears? or do you get 50%+ after a certain combo number?
>>121490221
>do you get 50%+ after a certain combo number?
This. The more hits you do without getting hit yourself the higher your bonus damage.
Once you get hit the counter and bonus damage are reset.
How many consecutive hits you need depends on which character you play.
Oh and if youre an Evie it only resets when your HP takes damage. If you take a hit with your manashield up the combo bonus is preserved.
Beginner here. What do I do with all the random drops I get - sell it on the marketplace or NPC them? Are there any items I should hold on to for the future?
>>121492572
Life Erg is a keeper, I don't really remember anything else that's very important to keep early. keeping ergs for crafting in general is a good idea, I guess.
Who gonna be Hagie The First
>>121495147
Me.
>>121492572
You might want to keep materials for expertise crafting if you want to level one of them any time soon, it'll save you a little bit of money.
>>121492572
If you have room, hold onto this (see screenshot), can sell everything else. Market or NPC depends entirely on the price and the current market situation, but usually it's not worth bothering. Pay attention to what quests ask for, those items usually are in some demand. Also, don't sell to NPCs, burn your trash instead, you get the same gold + small bonus things.
why
>>121498325
This is probably a silly question: do you mean the black marked items in the screenshot or everything but them? A little unclear to me.
And I looked into the item burning. The prereq is from S3. Am I still be able to start the quest from Brynn despite still working on S1?
>>121502370
No, he means everything but the items crossed out (which are worthless in terms of gold).
>>121488806
>I've always thought she should have just gotten a major damage boost to her explosions when she gets all gold stacks
I've always wanted that too, but that basically makes her a variation of Scythe Evie and we really don't need that.
>S2&1 where parties full of her are just bouncing the boss back and forth with flinches.
But that's the best part of having a party full of
L Y N N S
since you can't chain knockdown bosses anymore.
>>121502370
Everything but the black crossed out items. Life Ergs can always be used up. (Blessed) Magic Powder and Elixirs are required in huge amounts for enchantment. Enhancement materials are good to have, but sell them if price seems high, or once you have equipment of higher grade. Level 90 cloth, leather, ore, orb will be useful for lv90 stuff. Level 80 cloth, leather, ore is kinda cheap, but worth saving if you will craft lv80 stuff, at least save ore. Copper, Silver and Iron ore is required for Fine Armor Repair Kits, which are nice to have. Random coupons/tickets/keys is just what you will have around.
As for burning quest, I don't know when it unlocks. Go to Colhen camp in docs and see if that birdhouse starts a quest or something.
>>121504215
>life ergs can always be used up
if you still use pots after level 50 you are a child
>>121504142
>all lynn ulchas boat
No better feel than shutting down the boss completely
Is the game dead yet?
>>121504215
>Fine Armor Repair Kits
kek
playing since years and haven't knew about such thing exits
>>121469843
i don't know, but there will be chapters, so after lugh, sometime in the future chapter 2 will come, probably with similar structure
meanwhile they have to know they should change structure and battle layout to make it interesting after the current ones
hope lvl90 will stay for a good while, lvl100 would be a huge power creep now
jump
SOON
>>121529636
inb4 cash shop item
>>121529636
Get ready for s2 raids to be full of even more retards
>>121487678
That's because the way they implemented it only separates the hosting portion to its own process (srcds). You effectively become a client to yourself (including bugs you only get while joining someone else), and will never get performance better than what you get while soloing.
>>121519052
They were only added with Muir. I never use repair kits anyway so I don't see the point of investing ores into them.
>>121529636
>Some time will be needed to apply the changes.
Eagerly awaiting the server crashes.
>>121529636
>item boost to level 75
>20k ap capsule
>14 day equipment
Well shit I don't really have anyone to level right now, I hope it's tradable within the accountand doesn't expire
>>121529636
Maybe I'll finally play a Hurk, shit or I could make a Kai
I'm leveling an Evie, does anyone have some tips on what's an efficient way of playing her (EU)?
Is there a good, up to date guide?
>>121529636
>be new player
>do this because first dungeon is ridiculously easy
>go straight to rocheste by sea with level 75 gear or worse
>get rekt
Cestus confirmed for top DPS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXOUk2fBMJA
Seriously what's keeping this game alive so long.
I don't dislike the game i'm just honestly curious
>>121537107
It has the best gameplay system of any mmorpg, at the very least any mmorpg available in the west.
>>121537301
No I mean financially. Is this game still making Nexon enough money to not can it?
>>121537398
Whales. Megaphone idiots alone probably fund the server.
>>121537398
probably? It can't be that expensive to run.
Low demand hub worlds, player hosted servers
plz respond
>>121536363
US East or West?
>>121539478
>>121536363
depends what Evie
Scythe or Staff?
>>121544261
staffy
>>121529636
Now that's a cash shop item that will make Nexon money.
>>121537047
Holy shit, that's brutal.
>>121537107
A well executed fashion aspect that really entices lonely neckbeards like us, whales that love to gamble, and people that are really lazy and need a fast past to endgame content.
>>121544526
well yeah, for scythe i could have helped, but staffie i don't know at all
maybe somebody else
>>121545583
I wouldn't mind scythe advice either, I have them both maxed at my level due to meditation. But I'd prefer staff
>>121324813
>korean mmo developers even needing to try to kill vindictus when it's already dead
lol
the only appeal of the game left is for the people who care about soloing content, aka something 99.9% of the entire population doesnt care about
>>121545879
You forgot dress up and dick waving.
The real money makers.
Holy shit why is Hagie literally Justin Weeber
>>121547147
cause it's cute.
>>121548208
But that's gross looking.
>>121550340
No, it's cute.
And he's more inspired by kpop stars
Shield Deflection is the best thing they ever did for Fiona.
>>121545737
nah, if you prefer staff gameplay then better concentrate on that, no matter how much ap you have stacked up, ranking skills higher on both is a real AP eater
but for general leveling magic/int/smash/crit mastery is important
for scythe use, try to get on Mark of Death / Bloody Thread as often as you can, for longer openings
if unsure or only there is a short opening then use LLR+E
also level these skills mainly (+the smashes for these three)
level insane reaper too +use whenever there is enough SP or not on cooldown (skill awakening can completly remove cooldown too)
using sp for meteor swarm (or rev grav) is good only if the party profits more from the long opening to do damage
but meteor is for example useful where boss has high def but low HP (Succubus hero is one of them)
Arcane gate is a strong skill, and should get good with it, but can leave leveling it for later (reverse gravity and meteor swarm is less important to level at first too)
Also, as soon as used Blink and out of boss' way, can instantly start up attacking, the delay is removed now after the revamp
>>121556576
Which one has the higher dps between staff and scythe?
>>121554325
The benefit to hammer is tremendous. While speed is less necessary than before, it's a huge benefit to continue your combo after a deflect. I would still use it even if it didn't give the next smash a 50+ damage boost.
Why do all the items I'm picking up have a sell price of 0 gold? Does this mean one sells everything through the market board or is everything just like this below a certain level?
>>121561473
trash drops can be placed on the market but you might as well just incinerate them.
>>121561473
>just like this below a certain level
yes, only the first 2 area maps
but better look for mp board for those mats, what items you could sell significantly higher than NPC price
>>121558072
scythe
but in large pts with less aggro on her and sandbags it looks staffies always score high dps even among other chars too
why so__ded__
>>121566879
What is there to post?
>>121570320
post butts
>>121571018
>>121571018
Does VIP service stack with the double xp and ap for this event?
>>121575490
It should
>>121580480
You're right, 6 million xp off a story raid lakoria with blessings. Too bad my computer is too shit to host kraken.
H A G I E
>>121550617+shy
>>121589337
He's so handsome.
>>121589853
I wonder if i should go for a more dignified look or just whore him out and make him a complete slut.
>>121591156
It's hard to say, since he looks phenomenal either way.
I guess I'd go with dignified and switch to slutboi when I find something that's over the top enough
>>121591532
Speaking of Hagie,anyone here that actually tried him?Is he low-tier or can he do damage?And most important of all is he fun?
>>121595413
I dunno, according to the koreans he's supposed to be good.
I'm currently a level 82 Arisha, getting armor so far has been a fucking nightmare.
>>121600356
>Pillar above cestus
>Hammer above longsword, and on the same level as Arisha and Hurk
I wouldn't trust this at all.
>asian looks
>hip width of extraordinarily fertile western women
>>121600356
Why play spear when sword is so much easier but they're about equal in damage?
>>121601878
>hammer above longsword
In end-game, there's no contest.
>>121571018
posting Havanbutt
>>121606553
tfw no havanbf
>>121571018
>>121571018
More Fionabutt
>>121607306
Don't sexualize the tank
Maybe someday
>>121607447
>>121607836
Does she have any advantages in looks anymore? lynn is slightly cuter, arisha is more voluptuous.
Maturity?
>>121607982
I mean, what's the charm of Evie, right?
>>121607982
Compare Fiona to Arisha.
I think Fiona's more conservative, at least
>>121608591
>>121608334
The charm of evie is immaturity
>>121608879
Isn't Lynn immature though?
>all females since Evie and Fiona were based on Evie and FIona
>>121608591
Arisha is almost as slutty as Vella, Fiona is an adult.
So is there a general consensus on camera settings I should follow before I start picking up bad habits that could affect endgame?
Also, anyone have any tips on how to successfully time Lynn's smashes for gold marks? I'm struggling to get it consistent right now.
>>121609054
>tfw you forget that vella existed
>>121609357
I find that if you let go as soon as you see the orange flash, you can get the gold marks. And then it's just practice until you can constantly do it. I'll practice while waiting for boats to fill up.
Also, I have camera settings the same, but I have attack in camera direction on, and auto-aim at enemies off. I find that it's easier to have your character attack in the same direction that you're looking at.
>>121609920
But you can't skirt around bosses like that. It automatically attacks in the direction of the boss if you are looking even near it.
>>121611432
Don't you just point your camera to the boss and walk/run sideways?
Maybe I've just adjusted to it.
>>121558072
Scythe seems to be better for solo situations, but in party play Staff tends to be better since she can use Raze every time it's off cooldown.
>>121591156
>>121589853
Haggie is literally L.
>>121609021
Personally, I think Evie is the perfect example of a youthful woman in her most shining years.
Lynn is more of just a kid and kind of a brat (her bio confirms this).
>>121609054
>Fiona is an adult.
An experienced whore.
>>121613047
>>121613047
Lynn a cute
>>121609021
>>121613047
Fiona is the normal-ish childhood friend that doesn't have the courage to speak her feelings.
Evie is the energetic girl that forces you onto whatever whims she has.
Vella is that tease that's actually shy and just bluffs,turns into a shy girl the moment you push her and call her bluff.
Lynn is the bratty imouto tsundere character.
Arisha is that sex-bomb that isn't aware of it and is often confused why people ogle her like that.Also purest girl.Yeah,i was bored.
>>121614943
>sex bomb
>>121614943
>Vella not a slut and proud of it
>Arisha not a cum dumpster
lol
>>121616518
made for sex
>>121614943
Fiona is definitely the bit older and more experienced girl that's calmed down. In a slice of life she'd be a young mother. Not shy at all.
Evie is a snooty arrogant girl, has an O HO HO HO laugh and is arrogant about her intelligence.
Vella is a total slut, nothing bluff about it.
lynn is bratty as fuck, I can agree with this.
Arisha is smug as fuck about her sex appeal and probably did some spellsword ritual to get the biggest breasts in all the lands, but she's not nearly as promiscuous as vella.
I'm right, you're wrong
Why is memories of the past 2 raids in one? I think I've been in here for an hour.
>>121619973
Because Iset gets wrecked and Havan comes to help.
>>121620232
I only question the decision to make the story quest have 2 raids smashed into one.
>>121620638
it wouldve been better if you get to fight both iset and havan at the same time.
>>121622736
Would have been near impossible to beat around the time it was released.
Sure. From todays perspective it'd be possible but back then...
What happened? How is this thread alive? It was dead for weeks.
>>121628901
I come and post a couple times per day, and other people also do this.
>>121628901
I'm surprised this one hasn't died yet too. The last time we actually hit the bump limit was a long time ago.
>>121628901
Necrobumping when it hits page 10, what else.
>>121628901
I just come and check to see if there's any >interesting discussion going on. Other than that, necromancers roam this thread I guess.
>>121629632
>The last time we actually hit the bump limit was a long time ago
>autistic lynnposters were the ones that carried this gen through the spring and summer whether there was a discussion going on or not
Literally the heroes we need but don't deservebut I don't want this shit to happen again
>>121628901
There has been the occasional question from new players.
>>121633412
I'd much rather have a dead thread than one filled with posts of attention whores.
>>121633412
>Needing lynnposters to survive
You're no better than /meg/ and /ksg/ to be honest family.
>>121635442
This. So glad shitters like Bear are largely shamed out of these threads.
ARISHAWas Mabi 2 cancelled or something
>>121608591
arisha's abilities are powered by semen
>>121647652
>>121647980
>>121647980
how's it look when you're not transd?
>>121648358
>>121648627
Like an Iset set.
Honestly, I'm bored of this game now. Even with sekrit dll mods.
>>121650473
but how's it look on you
>>121651305
If I log onto my Arisha again today, I'll post a picture.
>>121652538
>obese arisha
Please don't
Terminate yourself instead
>>121652538
ok
So what's a good set of gear for a lann in his 80s?
>>121660060
Just get pirate like everyone else
>>121660449
Ah, cool. should I just get 5 pieces? wouldn't it be better to combine it with 2 of something else?
>>121660648
Mixing it with another set depending on what you want is good yes
>>121513553
The game's been dead for over a year population wise. Only a handful of waifufags who spend $20 a day keep it alive.
>>121662437
That a new inner? they just keep getting sluttier
>>121662437
I know TERA and B&S are a thing now, but Vindictus has some damn fine character models.
Who is the retard who designed Iset, are they the same person who did the crab bosses? Jesus christ.
>haven't touched the game in months
>check website
>anniversary event like 2 weeks ago
>iset/keggie set finally on sale
what was in the anniversary box, and are those sets tradable?
>>121670690
>what was in the anniversary box
A title and a +1 coupon, and two 24 hour items
>and are those sets tradable
Yes, currently they are fluctuating around 500m or so.
I have 8 Skill reset capsules... should I switch from staffie to scythie? I dont have too much ap anyways....
Why is Active: Continual Focus so damn clunky to use
Me and my friend are new to this and enjoying our time immensely.
My only question is really if there's any UI mods or something that I wouldn't know about the game that I SHOULD know.
We're level 39 btw.
Do people still play this now that FreeNX is gone? Why?
Anyone playing on korean server? How good is it? Can I dress my waifu for free/grind?
>>121680131
no ui mods
>>121680131
> if there's any UI mods
no not really, and there isn't much mods around, but there should be an ui update sometime in the future now
>or something that I wouldn't know about the game that I SHOULD know.
there is a faq in op's post, other than this, not much that i can think of now
leveling is mostly fast until 70s, the more serious 6-8 ppl raids begin at lvl60, raiding or doing dungeons for drops and gear is goes at lvl80-90
no need to waste too much gold on gear until that
>>121678983
depends how much you like scythe/staff gameplay or if you want use staff anytime again along with scythe
many people main both weap, and AP isn't a problem later on (except if taking regular visits with your weaps at ferghus)
if not, can use them caps, i guess
Haven't played since Regina,how's s3?
>>121682482
braha shyt, new glas is so-so
(new dungeon haven't played yet either)
Is it possible to make Lynn not look like a cumslut and more grown?
Is lugh lam fun?
>>121684440
does the pope shit in the woods?
>>121685805
i bet it's fun as ancient glasaoe fest and one hit kill gimmick all the time around
>>121667804
You're just bad, senpai. Only valid complaint about Iset, is that she's hard to see in a big party. Other than that, it's one of the top 3 S2 raids.
>>121689848
>implying that isn't a massive enough flaw for it to ruin the raid.
>>121680131
>I wouldn't know about the game that I SHOULD know.
Spend AP on skills that increase damage by a percentage first, skills that give a fixed bonus aren't that good, almost all of your AP should go into combat skills first, then armor/weapon masteries. Try not to spend gold early, leveling is very easy, the real game starts at lv60, but even lv60 and lv70 equipment won't last much, lv80 and 90 equipment is what you want. But then again, you won't have much gold anyway, you can make it back quickly once you can farm endgame content. Once you're done with story, you might want to grind EXP until you're lv90, instead of trying to farm and craft lv70/lv80 equipment. Best way to get EXP is S2 (Malina) story battles and then S3 (BenChen) story battles, when you unlock them. S2 story battles can be done just once, so you might want to coordinate with your friend - first one takes quests and hosts, then when done, other one takes the same quests and hosts. S3 story battles can be repeated.
>>121690325
That is why you let everyone die then solo it faggot
>>121680457
Free NX isn't gone. Use those transferable survey skills at Prizerebel or other reputable site. There are decent guides.
Do that shit for Karma Coin cards and convert to NX.
Fuck Arisha is hard but I love it.
Is there any consensus as to when you should use the full ruin blade combo? On cooldown? Defensively?
>>121696825
On sandbag bosses, asap
On Ulchas, when you need flinch
On red flashes, defensively.
>>121697017
In not so well versed in the game to know those terms
is there a foolproof way to access the NA servers without anal anguish and dcs from EU?
>>121699773
I don't quite follow your question.
Do you mean you live in EU and you want to play on one of the NA servers?
>>121697151
Sandbag - Boss that doesn't attack much, i.e. Lakoria.
Ulchas is an S2E4 raid boss. Red Flash are moves in Season 3 which are true unblockables (can't block or use normal invincibility frames to avoid).
Just use it on cooldown when you know you won't get hit out of it. Once you either macro the input or get used to doing it fast, you can try using it instead of a dodge.
Don't worry too much about absorbing with the counter drain followup. You can probably get consistent at it (I'm not cause I'm shit), but that'll happen from practice.
>>121700293
currently experimenting with proxys, yes.
i posted a few days ago as to why
>>121700293
>>121701682
>>121244484
forgot to link..
currently ingame but its highly unstable..
so.. any help?
>>121415260
wow, have not seen this in a while
all these pointless new spells on staff evie.. all the freaking changes.. why? i feel like i should stick with scythe but i literally dont have 1.
>>121704502
>pointless
I bet you only use guided missiles
>>121704846
unless theyre all the same damage i dont see why i need 4 different spells on every focus level.
im still experimenting, ironicly, the last time i played was when guided missiles was the ultimate.
>>121705240
>>121704502
>complaining about the game giving you more options
Just stop playing baka senpai
>>121706187
its not that i dont like the looks and shit but i guess im just upset that it completely fucked my muscle memory.
>>121705240
>not knowing about elemental masteries
>probably still spamming magic missiles
No wonder I keep seeing these evies with joyous
>>121707005
i havnt spammed magic missile even when it was literally the best dps, it was boring, still is.
i have 115k ap, i maxed the masteries and i can see the damage everything does, its really hard telling which 1 does the most though, its not like they have long cooldowns that require cycles, what am i missing senpai?
>tfw someone megas for a Bark story and people start piling into your Juggernaut boat
>>121689848
That's exactly what I'm complaining about. I have no idea what she does because I've never actually seen her do half of it. Every single first phase I've ever done of her goes as follows: I die to something I can't see in about 30 secs, and I watch as all the geared people tank her attacks until second phase, all of them nearly dying but surviving because of their high defense.
Having 4k def is suffering sometimes.
>>121707483
Then you should be able to see that out of the 3 masteries, only one gives you extra damage when you stack spells from that element
>>121707692
Bark is the worst sandbag ever, and retards don't know how to ward
>>121682107
I like scythies gameplay a lot. I almost like staffie just as much, but it just feels really clunky sometimes and it's starting to bother me.
>>121708026
>masteries have passives and actualy shit to them
OH.
well , uhm, i guess im a faggot for not reading everything.
my excuse is having to spend 37k AP.
>>121707995
I think people saying Iset is a good raid is a meme at this point. I doubt anyone actually likes her.
my biggest pet peeve about this game that every new char has the exact same progression and story.
>8 different classes
>all fun
>some extremly unique
>all get revamped and rebalanced
>same goddamn dungeons and raids
how do you fight it /ded/? the tedium.
>>121708759
I like her for her lewd outfit
>>121711714
Just keep clicking through all the dialogue. I've done the same thing 9 times now over the years. It's gotten less painful after you didn't have to run hidden 20 times in order to level up and advance the story.
>>121712225
>hidden spam
oh man the memories
>the dialogue
ofcourse il skip the damn thing after iv read it already but damnit man i cant keep releveling and doing the same dungeons over and over,raids are fine though.
why cant we just get insta level 80 after mastering 1 is beyond me.
Why doesn't Keaghan have wrists in cutscenes?
>>121714814
Why do cutscenes still exist?
>>121715098
KEEPER OF THE FOMOR GOD.
>having to spend 25-35k AP on 5 chars
>EACH
save me from the flash iv become
>>121714814
he is such an emo he would slit them asap
ded
>scythie hosts story quest
>1bar
>do it for the exp
>we all die to boss because 5fps
>scythiehost moves exclusivly by blinking
>literally never snaps, fights only by smashing
>watch her slowly whittle down a full bar of the boss' hp with 0 stamina and only her smash combos, with all 4 snap buffs on her the entire time
fucking suffering
>>121657740
am i wasting time by doing main story quests? im currently 71 and getting mad exp from dungeons but stories are meh tier at best.
how long does this event last?
>>121727169
>the story battles are availble once
and im a retard, disregard my post.
i should check shit before asking/posting
>>121727498
Once you've done them you can join other people's, though.
I'm a retard and easymoded through the whole story and got balls for exp, so now im leeching off other people's story quests.
>>121727761
did 2 quests on easy mode before realising aswell.. ;_;
>>121725865
I'm impressed that you managed to make the sexiest outfit in the game look utterly disgusting
>>121725865
Are we getting Hagie this month? Or Ep4?
>>121735368
I think Ep4 was originally released before Haggis but that doesnt warrant anything though sadly.
>>121735368
I expect December
>>121735973
>>121735634
I'm hoping that we get Hagie this month and episode 4 for Christmas but the opposite would be fine too.
>>121725865
It's gotten to the point that I'm seriously wondering if people do this to be contrarian.
>>121708026
All of them give bonus damage now, but fire is still the strongest.
In general, you want to rotate your elements between fire and lightning since if you use continual focus properly (every time it's off cooldown), you should be stuck waiting for CDs from your fire spells every rotation. Lightning should be fit in strategically to cover that hole or restore stamina.
I also use T3 ice every once in awhile too if I feel like I can get the double damage from it.
Does anybody care about the Karok revamp?
>>121742337
Whats a Karok?
>>121742337
Unless they're reworking him into a sexy bitch, probably not.
Where the fuck is Autumn Reed Bed?
>>121746795
Wisconsin
>>121746795
its the first mission for s3 e1 and can be located at colhen or roch at the boards for s3, in colhen the board is on the other side of the ferry man and in roch its across the bridge by the hot spring
wheelchair is the hardest
>>121725865
Women can be hot regardless of size.
Still need to see other angles on this one to be sure. Show more.
>>121747252
Thanks.
Dear god i can't wait for those Halloween decorations to leave.While i like them ,ever since their update came my dcs have tripled and have noticeably more lag.
>>121747738
I miss character specific armour.
>>121754526
I miss weapon specific scrolls.Also some scrolls for Focus wouldn't hurt either.
So just how quickly can you acquire one of the level 90 armor sets/weapons? (Of the most basic quality)
And how much better are they than the level 80 gear?
>>121747842
god damn
...any more?
>>121761556
The blue quality 90 gear materials (lowest quality) are barely under the stats of 80 equipment, on East you can outfit yourself for under 3m with armor and a weapon.
For purple quality materials (middle, but still very good), they're far better than 80 gear, except maybe the strength/int from 80 armor. You can get a full set and weapon for about 6m.
If you can, I would skip 80 armor entirely, perhaps even a weapon if you can grind S2 out enough and you don't have the money to spare.
>>121766538
No point in using a purple weapon when you're going to switch to an orange soon or later.
>>121747738
What's the point of that stat radar chart when Sword Lann is superior to pretty much everyone? The whole thing should be yellow lmao.
Can I make a piece of gold gear with purple shards, enhance and enchant it, and then replace the shards with golds later on, or will it reset my enhance/enchant to 0?
>>121773031
as long as the main piece is gold, enhance/enchant only resets when main piece is switched out.
>>121773473
Great, thanks
>>121769790
Can't you upgrade from purple into orange? I thought that's how it worked.
>>121766538
Everyone says you should skip 80 stuff, but good luck finding any raids where the host won't kick you for having shitty-ass 70 gear. The armor can be skipped if you have decent skill but you won't have any fun with sub-16k weapons.
>>121777673
In a perfect world where you can get friends/guildies to carry you through content, you can do it.
>>121777673
>16k weapons
Nigga what
>>121701682
>>121702889
Use hideallip to bypass ipblock
You can turn that off once ingame(past character selection) because its a tunneling service unlike vpn or proxy
>>121775043
no, when changing main it resets to +0, even from +8 or +10
no point using even a +3..+5 one to replace
thats a big drawback, and really spoils their original idea of "ability to upgrade you gear in smaller steps"
don't even know why they came up with this restriction
having a +10 purple then replacing to a gold would be a logical system
>>121766538
>they're far better than 80 gear,
Only in attack. The actual important stats like crit/bal/aspd are usually shittier. Although I guess that doesn't matter too much if you're only looking at getting past atk requirement boats.
tieve is hot now
I think he Terminus Sentinel armor can look really nice when dyed.
Can anyone here post Pics of some good dyes for the armor for inspiration?
>>121792146
you can find some here in the 3rd post:
http://vindictus.nexon.net/Community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1401357-Season-3-Episode-3-Thread
>>121783862
>because its a tunneling service unlike vpn or proxy
What does this mean?
>>121793896
I still can't get over how it's a fucking jacket on top of plate armour.
>>121794225
that wouldn't be bad, for a given style actually is good
also a royal army general outfit is a plate armor +some coat on it too
for the whole set, that closed helmet makes it awful, it doesn't fits the general look at all
>self found Enthu with 4 days, soon would rly need to fuse my armor for it now
>Aria appears
>Appearance...Fusion Rune
that's it, man
>>121783862
pretty fucking dank man, worked flawlessly, havnt tried to party yet.3 day trial though, either pirate or someother method of renewing? il check it later, thanks again.
Anyone have good looking Fionas or Lynns I canstealtake inspiration from
I want to make mine pretty
I miss Luty
i really hate the new amber
sue me.
>>121800819
New amber is better than old amber in every way though.
>>121803335
how?
>accidently press wasd and do a bunny hop
>die
>tap too lightly on wasd while trying to bunny hop
>amber accidently
>insane barrage of hits
>"let me just hug this killzone"
>instead of just flying away
>lag a bit
>amber isnt deployed properly and you get hit or die
>old amber had client side detection
>no more fun tricks and breaking parts with sillyness
no, its just bad, i cant stand it. give me my goddamn crystal back.
not to mention muscle memory fucks your shit too
>ohshit better amber
>still hold wasd
>doublespace
>bunny hop
>brief amber
>shit.jpg
>inb4 practice or gitgud and adapt
sure thing, take a shit in bag, tape it under your nose, i promise ul adjust eventualy buddy, i believe in you.
its also ugly but thats subjective.
yes im goddamn salty.
>>121804351
>can't break
>can now block "unblockable" attacks
>lasts long enough to block any attack chain
>can act immediately out of amber
>stays in one place so you don't get knocked across the map
Literally no reason to miss the old amber, aside from map-glitching shenanigans but those were patched out a while back.
The rest of your complaints boil down to a big fat GITGUD.
>>121784671
Because then everyone would just yolo pure blue weaps to +15 then swap out shards to orange. The market would crash so fucking hard if that was the case.
>>121799293start by making a better class
>>121788049
actually, 90 gear has better crit unless you're a xgun kai
>>121725865
why are these people allowed to have nice things
I just insta killed her with arcane gate but after she died she kept oozing that that stuff from all over her body.
What did i do wrong ?
>>121807924
it cant block red attacks buddy.
if it could id take it up the ass like a good boy and shut up about it because thats obviously a game changer. but it cant.
>>121815846
>not succubutt_cumming_everywhere.jpg
>>121816359
>implying old amber could block reds
>implying you don't have a 20m long flying sparrow for that now
yeah, you're just bad
>>121790983
what's up with these shitty candles? can SFM not render cylinders or something?
>>121816359
Nobody can block red attacks on demand, nigga. By unblockable I meant shit like Siglint lightning and Havan pancakes, things that fucked staff over before the revamp.
Given how much you seem to hate the new amber I'd suggest you play a different class, but staff already is one of the most braindead classes in the game. Apply yourself.
>>121817972
>Nobody can block red attacks on demand, nigga.
Well,Arisha (and Lynn i think) can,just not all the time.
Finallysea
>>121817972
>apply yourself
didnt say its hard. its just bad vs the old one, id take it back in a heartbeat.
1 skill wont deter me from playing my main, a nigga can vent you know.
So can hurk really not deflect s3 bosses at all? What's the point of the char then?
>>121820541
I'm no expert on Hurk but i think that "problem" is specific to Regina only.No one can block Braha's attacks so it makes sense for Hurk not to deflect them and i think you can deflect Glas after spearing him (i'm going by what i've heard here so i could be wrong).
Unless you mean the bosses in the s3 dungeons for which i have no answer since i haven't been there with a Hurk yet.
>>121818973
Yeah what I meant was nobody can dodge through reds without expending an sp/high-cd move.
>>121819979
It sounds like you just have muscle memory issues, which will go away after practice. Mechanically the new amber is objectively superior.
>>121821392
>Mechanically the new amber is objectively superior.
I haven't played with Evie yet but i'll say that i miss seeing them fly throughout the raid area when they got hit while ambered up.
>>121819724
The best thing about 90 armor becoming accessible is that I'm seeing less and less of that disgusting pirate set.
>>121821549
I USED TO BELIVE I CAN FLY ANON
IT WAS GREAT ;________;
how can i get the East server ping? anyone got a clue about this stuff?
>>121822039
You are notseaworthy
>>121821549
And I miss seeing spear lanns on the floor all the time, but we can't all have what we want.
>>121822039
>tfw fused my lvl 90 armors to pirate for this reason, just for people like you
So how do the number of stars on the 90 weapons work? Are they tied to the primary essence or the weapon itself?
>>121817441
that's gmod
but no idea about their capabilities
gmod should render better too
>>121814658
But I like their playstyles the best. I-isn't having fun what matters the most...?
>>121825389
They're tied to the final values of everything.
>>121824447
Damn that's petty.Might fuse mine to nighthawks,doesn't hurt that i like their look either.
>>121827134
It's okay Anon, just play what you want! You'll get good at it and everyone will love you soon.
>>121827134
>I l-l-like their playstyles the best anon
>can't even make his own sliderfu
Just use the default sliders anon, at least it's better than those players that makes their character a mcfatty or an anorexic.
>>121827134
Ignore them, Fiona is fine and while Lynn is in a worse spot nowadays you can still make her work with some extra effort
>>121804351
>accidently press wasd and do a bunny hop
git gud
>tap too lightly on wasd while trying to bunny hop
git gud
>insane barrage of hits
git gud and perfect amber
Also, reactivation time is nearly instantly.
>lag a bit
Stop being a third worlder.
>no more fun tricks and breaking parts with sillyness
And? I'd lose silliness for vastly improved efficiency any day. I can actually solo Cromm now with new amber.
>not to mention muscle memory fucks your shit too
git gud.
>sure thing
git fucking gud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RunkLJRDkkQ
>>121762049
Most are old ones, before I added even more to her thighs. But here goes.
>>121840720
>autism the post
holy shit take your meds.
>not reading already chewed conversations
>sperg all over someone hours later
take meds.
>posts irrelevant video
old amber can do this if not better, forcing the boss to charge/walk towards you instead of being in the killzone and triggering endless combos.
>muh git gud meme
if your autism didnt blind you by now, i said its not hard, its just bad.
>>121843017
>>121843213
Found a current pic.
>>121843019
You implying the new Amber is bad is autism at its finest desu
>>121843468
its a bad game mechanic comparing to the old one
>stay in killzone vs jump around and force the boss to move
old wins, new a shit
>only when standing still and attacking vs after every single possible animation and state
old wins, new a shit
>same damage absorbation
can be remade with simple value modification if not
>same animation canceling after casting while old has superior recovery
if you couldnt use the old amber like slipdash youre bad.
old amber is OBJECTIVELY fucking better you sperglord, fuck off with your waifu vids that tank def when they fuck up.
this game is easy, both ambers are easy and boring, still, old amber is better and ads spice to evie.
goodnight /ded/
>>121832650
>nighthawk
CROSSING THE LINE
>>121772837
Vindictus NA once said Fiona was the hardest
>>121846936
Those were just Fionafags though.
>m-muh lightsaber spin top deeps :^]
>>121846936
pffft Fiona hardest ahahahahahaha thanks for the laugh
>>121846936
I think Hammer Fiona with a small shield was the hardest character to play in S2 before she had the ability to perfect guard unblockables.
>>121843017
>>121843213
>>121843453
goodness
that's what i'm looking for
>>121843019
>holy shit take your meds.
Right back at you.
>take meds.
>Implying I'm going to read through an entire thread before replying
Nope.
>old amber can do this if not better,
3/10 I winced.
>its just bad.
You're bad. Literally git gud.
>>121844453
>Forcing the boss to move when the rest of your party's doing well at wailing on the boss
Go die in a fire.
>>121844453
This is bait right? It has to be.
>>121852987
Perhaps it's an elaborate ruse to keep the thread alive, perhaps he is a hero.
>>121844453
>>121850823
Would I be going full retard if I started enchanting a full set of 3* noblesse armor with the new rank 7 enchants? I don't want to start paying even more money for an orange 90 set.
>>121856119
Yes because you can convert a purple set to orange without losing enchants.
>>121859541
You can't use rank 7 enchants on purple primaries.
>>121852987
I like where this is going, best thing that has happened to this thread so far
>lvl 3 feather
Would I be able to replace this primary feather with something such as reality distortion level 1?
>>121868450
Yes, you can do that, just be aware it'll cost a bunch of godly ores, heavenly leather, and godly cloth, so make sure it's worth it.
post sluts
>>121873883
What a lucky slut.
>>121873883
what the fuck is that guy in the back doing, taking a dump?
>>121866024
holy spooks
If you have a 3 stars purple, when you replace the primary with an orange will the quality remain the same?
>>121876494
yup
>>121876928
Why don't everybody just buy a 3-4 star purple and replace the materials for a 3-4 stars orange then, it seems incredibly simple.
>>121792146
>>121878543
They do, people who don't are stupid. that's why 3/4* blue and purple weps are more expensive you can use them as shells for enhancing /enchanting. But you have to also take into account the cost of switching out the shards which is actually pretty high if you switch all of them.
>>121880585
I thought I figured out some kind of secret when I found out quality isn't lost between upgrading materials. I'm surprised that devcat chose not to reset quality.
>>121878543
>>121880585
>>121883358
New to s3. What part of the gear determines the quality? I don't see stars on the pieces I have yet. Does it show up randomly when you make the gear?
>>121883647
When you make it through expertise, the primary material has the maximum quality listed, purple can be max 2-4* depending on the piece. Crafting things through a vendor will always give you 2* like normal.
>>121850823
>i have the attention spam of a goldfish and cant come up with rebuttles
sure showed me buddy.
>>121852987
dispute arguments you nigger :^)
morning /ded10/
>>121852964
youre not going to be targeted 80% of the time in a group.
soloing and forcing the boss to come to you is the holy grail of ranged chars, old wins.
your argument is shit.
>>121893715
>cant come up with rebuttles
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume English isn't your first language.
Also, no need for rebuttals when literally every point you have can be countered with
>git gud
>>121894009
>youre not going to be targeted 80% of the time in a group.
Actually, I find Staffie gets quite a bit of misplaced aggro, especially when I frequently land high damage spells. I know people have been saying it's completely random, but I've noticed that the boss likes to switch aggro to me when I hit it with tons of damage at once.
I suspect damage calculations factor into how the aggro system works.
>>121893715
Keep going, you're doing good man
>>121894294
literally every game mechanic involving damage negation and group/solo content is objectively better with the old amber. all stated here >>121844453
these arnt preferences, its not a subjective matter, neither are hard to use, the old one was better even though they both do the job. there is no "git gud" meme here.
i dont think i can spell it out easier for you anymore, if you cant actualy comprehend this then im sorry, youre just wrong. objectively.
also my english is fine, thanks.
>>121894398
yep, damage was and always will be aggro source, bosses have RNG targeting for some attacks though.
we used to spam F11 and shit to grab lyonotus attention to bomb him on the cliff, i saw that fiona and karok got an actual SP aggro skill, pretty neat to actualy have roles now.
>>121894754
morning anon, how are you doing today? :^)
>>121894398
Aggro system is like a giant chance system. If you have a certain % of the damage from the last 15 or so seconds, that damage percentage is the probability calculation for aggro. There is a minimum random chance that nobody can lift from you however, no matter how bad you actually are.
Also, drinking a non-merc potion basically makes the boss drop what they are doing and come punish you
>>121895843
>pay2notgetsmacked
i believe it.
casting save is basicaly to "time" bursts right?
im not seeing much of a point in using it unless the boss has a VERY specific hit window..
that and pre boss fights to start with a big combo obviously.
>>121894954
>literally every game mechanic involving damage negation and group/solo content is objectively better with the old amber.
I still disagree on a fundamental level. Old amber took two button presses to use which means you have to anticipate an attack or risk eating it. Old amber had no means to block unblockables aside from a very flimsy 0.2 iframe WHEN YOU COME OUT OF IT. Old amber also tends to knock you randomly away, which can fuck you over when you want to be knocked in a certain direction but get caught on something and breaksie. druid's multi-slams.
There's more issues, but the gist of it is that old amber really detracted from the time Staffie can use to cast spells. It also encouraged a passive playstyle of
>run away
>charge 3 spells
>run in and use them all
>repeat
Since positioning was erratic with old amber.
>>121895843
Do you have even a single source to back up your claims of how the damage works for aggro?
>>121897579
You use cont focus to never lose a spell tier
>>121897579
No, it's so you don't have to recharge whatever tier focus (obviously 4) you have. Saves a lot of time and is a noticeable difference in DPS on longer raids.
>>121898216
>two button presses means you need to be a prophet
but thats wrong! its like slipdash, blink. guard, and every other goddamn advanced invic frame skill in the game
>0.2 when you come out of it
wrong, it was 0.x when you create it aswell, it was basicaly a safer slip dash.
the "time to get up" animation when it ends is similar to roll/knockeddown time frame. just extra sauce if you fucked up, hence better.
>knocking away is bad
i could literally make a boss "push" me to where i wanted instead of letting the skill end, all you had to do was release space, it was AN ACTIVE wonderfull defence system.
yes it had random HILARIOUS moments but the physx engine was the core problem, not the skill.
>charge skills and passive gameplay
i agree, sounds boring, i wasnt playing when the skill charging was in place though so i wouldnt know.
i remember doing melee casting as staffie in 24 man raids while everyone pussied out and magic arrowed. it was goddamn fun.
>>121898391
>>121898508
OH, i just saw the skill description, neat! i was preplexed as to why anyone would keep saving mid raid as opposed to just using the damn thing.
for some odd reason i remembered that sp skill being "faster focus"..
thanks.
milo's gonna die isnt he
this little asshat is basicaly ellis 2.0
>>121898718
>slipdash
Are you stupid? Slipdash is single tap. Nimble dash is also just a continuation of that.
>Guard
Dodge while standing still. Single press
>Blink
Used to be like amber with double tap and it sucked because of it. Its now a single tap and is much better.
None of those are like the old amber. They are more responsive and generally better all around.
>>121898718
>but thats wrong!
>*Proceeds to list every single-tap dodge in the game*
?
>wrong, it was 0.x when you create it aswell,
I'm pretty sure this isn't true, but I don't have a source to back it up so...
>it was basicaly a safer slip dash.
top kek
>i could literally make a boss "push" me to where i wanted
I find that hard to believe, since unless you have the reflexes of a god and can time your amber so it spawns directly where a boss will hit you at the right angle and impact so you can get sent in a calculated direction, you're spouting bullshit.
There's a reason why basically no solos pre-revamp relied on Amber - it's most like hop cancel and sparrow.
>i agree, sounds boring, i wasnt playing when the skill charging was in place
And we've finally reached the source of the problem - you haven't played Staffie in any meaningful content, only easymodo S1 shit. Look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbSy0FbvDco
Amber doesn't work too well since by the time you run back in after Amber knocks you away, you'll need to Amber again. That, or stick with the passive playstyle I described.
>>121899291
>mistaking names makes my point any less valid
fine, heavy guard, slip+nimble.
and yes i suppose blink was changed, used to be able to bunny hop. it was nice but the reduced cost is nicer.
so yeah nice straws.
old amber had pure control aside from physx shenanigans, which are exactly like those.
>>121899579
2/3 are two keyed with their continuation, wrong names, it has been 3 years since i played.
>im pretty sure but i dont actualy know
the crystalization could stop the huge golem from rolling, i think aghalan was the name?
>reflexes of a god
>spouting bullshit because you cant think on simple terms
jesus guys, im mediocre at best. you make it sound so hard, all you need to do was STAND and double tap before it hits, its not fucking rocket science. the shit are you making it to be?
>no solos pre revamp relied on amber
bahaha.
hope cancel and sparrow are only good for certain attacks, heck i still use em.
amber was the oh shit ones, simple as that. always have been.
>"source of the problem"
>implying allegations and assuming assumptions
iv played S2 directly on release. iv done the two raids, did a few quests, got bored, most of my friends quit, proxys a shit, quit myself.
your reasoning is still flawed. it is a bad change, it is objectively inferior to a caster suitable playstyle.
>video
im 2 mins in and he fucked up atleast twice.
still, he plays, does damage, eventualy solos im assuming considering the length. whats your point in posting this video? it worked.
>>121900270
forgot to mention
>the easymodo s1 shit
im in the desert and im not seeing anything different.
its still telegraphed with a special warning sign even in the form of "red" attacks or "screams" before them.
come the fuck on.
i honestly play this game for the story first and then combat.
How dead is this game? I quit about 3/4 years ago and wondering whether I should come back.
>>121900893
i did too, 3-4 years ago aswell
its pretty dead EU times, i wouldnt know late evening US times though.
i still manage to find boats sometimes though, have fun anon! lots changed.
also maint in 8 minutes.
>>121900270
>2/3 are two keyed with their continuation
No? Only slip dash is that and even then it has two different names for a reason.
>Changing from guard to heavy stander
Nice straws.
>the crystalization could stop the huge golem from rolling
What does that have to do with i-frames?
> you make it sound so hard,
We're at the point where we won't get anywhere without evidence. Upload a video of you soloing Cromm so I can see your 'easy' mana amber trajectories.
>bahaha.
I just posted a video, can't you do the same?
>iv played S2 directly on release. iv done the two raids,
So... the two sandbag raids? Senpai...
>your reasoning is still flawed.
You have no reasoning. You keep saying it's 'bad' without explaining why when it has dramatically improved her DPS.
>whats your point in posting this video?
He doesn't use Amber because it's unreliable as fuck. Check out new Evie solos - tons of Amber use leading to superior positioning combined with sparrow.
>>121901695
heavy guard is space + s, unless they changed that aswell, in that case, top kek.
>mistaking names you read 3 years ago is straws
are you retarded?
>what does it have to do with i frames
his rolls used to 1hko fionas, damaging him on the right spot would stagger him, used to be almost impossible and the sticky bombs were used for it but the old amber did it alone.
that case is showing heavy damage absorbation and fucking utility. im not drawing it for you if you still dont get it.
>post a video of something that was removed and that you didnt play
>similar to the video i posted
>because apperantly its me
>waifu desu senpai
post a video of you breathing on mars so i can know humanity is safe from your genes.
whats hard to understand in "i quit in season 2 after trying 2 raids and some story missions" ?
also
>being a video fag
>i just posted a video
of someone else using the old amber and playing fine? which supports my case? i honest to god have no idea what youre on but i want some.
>you have no reasoning
>beside the detailed objective facts that support caster gameplay which you posted atleast twice!
>dramaticaly improved her DPS
>implying staff evie was ever weak
>implying she wasnt always top 3 or #1
>implying her DEFENSIVE MECHANISM made her STRONGER
>implying old amber couldnt do the exact same job if not better
holy fucking shit do you read what you type?
her DPS improved because you dont need to continuenly use magic arrow and 3 spells
>masteries that give different benefits
>SP skill that gives her continuation of power without having to refocus
>new SP rape button
>new once in 2 minutes rape button
>more weapons and stats WHILE not being a glass cannon anymore because apperantly DEF is now a magician stat
BUT ITS THE NEW AMBER! I SWEAR!
fucks sake man you cant be serious, i refuse to believe you are.
>he doesnt use amber
but he does.
>check out the new solos
>people use the new amber
because its what they have?
>>121903118
Heavy stander is pretty much pianoing guard and s. It is faster than double tapping by quite a bit. In addition you can do it early and be fine because you can hold it.
>mistaking names
Nigger no other dodge in the game that is actually good is more than single tap.
See
>lann
>fiona (guard in this case)
>lynn
>vella (no idea on i-frames but it is still single tap, same with counter)
>hurk
>arisha(a guard when still, and a dash when moving)
I have no idea how kai works so I won't even mention him but I'm betting his roll is single tap.
>staff evie
>top 3 before revamp
My sides have entered orbit. You could argue a lot of things but that isn't one of them. There is no contest on this, before revamp it was
>lann(either weapon)
>Hurk
>Arisha
>>121904458
Let it go man, he's either baiting or thinks he's in a republican debate.
>>121904458
are you honestly trying to justify the new amber being a pile of shit with "i dont have to tap space twice"?
is that honestly all you have left?
staffie was always the top 3 since she was made into a proper magician, i wouldnt know about the time between season 2 EP 2 and now, pre that, she was top. you could probably search the forums for the weekly nerf staff topics if they werent purged.
i believe arisha was the newest at the time, like 1-2 weeks new, if not released with EP 2.
power ranking aside, that doesnt change a nickel about ambers, stop deflecting.
>>121904848
present arguments then faggot.
meanwhile we have someone that cant get objective facts in his thick skull.
do us the honours.
>>121905134
I don't even care about ambers, I don't play staff. I'm a different guy but you're still 100% wrong about any of the other dashes in the game.
And yes, not tapping space twice is a huge advantage. I played scythe and no matter how fast you tap that shit the hop still starts and you have no i=frames and this can get you fucked.
>arisha
She came out like 10 months ago, long after season 2 ended. You are straight up lying now about when you last played the game. All I can conclude about this is that you literally have no idea what you're talking about and are simply remembering things incorrectly.
>>121906220
whats the char with the dual blades then?
female lann basicaly.
vella! found it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AsJ5mmuii4
>wrong about the dashes
wrong how? that the old amber was as effective? that its better?
>lying on the internet
i wouldnt do the unspeakable.
>>121906220
also here
just to spite your ass.
and seriously, having a normal hop/jump/whatever as basic is always better.
if double taping is your pet peeve then goddamn.
Jesus fucking christ you guys.
>>121907316but im having fun with my anger anon!also game's down, what else am i gonna do if not arguing on a japanese image board
>>121906591
Wrong that any other dashes require double tapping retard. They all have instant responses.
>>121907252
>and seriously, having a normal hop/jump/whatever as basic is always better.
Good thing other characters have that except they have i-frames on them. Instead of a shitty little hop that only serves to stop you from using the dodge you want to use.
>regularly purchasing $30 worth of NX
Hilarious, All this is really proving that your memory is shit and you really do have no idea what you're talking about.
>>121908074
S2E2 info:
lann, twice.
evie, both were twice.
fiona, heavy counter had twice.
exceptions: karok, kai, vella.
half of the chars had double tapping untill nexon changed it with the revamps in the last 3-4 years.
i acknowledged that its different now but it seems like i triggered your autism so youre blind and foaming at the mouth while sticking to an irrelevant point in whats apperantly an argument you dont care for, and yet, im the retard? there is no face for this.
>hop is shitty
just because you cant use something properly doesnt mean its shitty buddy.
im currently playing solo S2, 3 days of staff evie and iv used more hop and sparrow than amber.
>purchasing NX is somehow proving i have no idea what im talking about
>literally the dumbest thing anyone said ever
what the absolute shit are you on about retard?
i had money, it was a special month with lots of sales, i used money, is it really hard to comprehend? how does this change anything?
i posted this for certification, nov 11, 2011. means youre wrong about your assumptions of me not knowing and or lying.
i played the game for years, i stoped, came back.
meanwhile the only thing that youre on about is that double tapping is somehow bad? is your poor sibling typing this for you? do you own a healthy brain with healthy body and simple motor factions?
please google assisted suicide.
>>121908876
correction, heavy counter was and still space + s.*
im getting too jaded for this crap
>>121908876
Not that guy, but while I'm fine with you having the shitty opinion that old amber was better, you're outright wrong about the doubletapping thing.
Lann only needs one tap to dodge. Sword Lann can chain two dodges together, which is where your misconception is probably coming from.
Fiona's HS uses two different keys, which can be pressed almost simultaneously, and definitely much faster than doubletapping.
Out of all the characters Evie was the only one who had to doubletap for her basic dodge (scythe) or mana amber.
Wow! I can't believe the general has been up for almost a full-
>people arguing about dumb shit
/vindig/ never changes
>>121910761
>shitty opinion
>i want to be limited by keys and mobility while being a ranged char
okay, suit yourself buddy.
>lann
correct, but you usualy have to do them both if you want it to matter, i dont see your point, i have a 66 lann, i havnt played since i came back but i remember it.
>fiona
i said that couple of times, its literally nothing in terms of convience. youre being silly.
again, whats the point of all of this?
>double tapping is hard
okay, fine. have at it. double tapping is hard. i apologize.
can i have my superior amber with the same defence but mobility and freedom of activation now?
no? okay, this is pointless then.
forgive me for actualy being sick of beating a dead horse.
never have i took an argument of preference with some objective facts this far and i will never again. im honestly not sure whats worse, inability to comprehend, like talking to deaf people, or the fact that you think parroting the same shit matters when in reality the discussion is about something else.
please notice that the guy arguing with me about amber stopped quite a while ago.
atleast we bumped this poor general right?
Guys this game has the best combat of any game I've ever played I don't want it to die ;_;
>>121911904
im waiting for black desert, i heard its the same but open world.
i saw some vids, they look sorta off but i guess il give it a try and check how it feels.
>>121912374
I played a tiny bit of one of one of its closed beta's recently. It has... a way to go yet. But it's not entirely hopeless I guess.
>>121912374
>open world
>>121912520
neat.
>>121912559
w-what..pls no
>>121912374
Enjoy the deception
>>121913290
what does this mean? is it not really open world? i dont mind.. i mean were playing vindictus right?
Can you guys imagine what this game would be like if it were actually good?
Been thinking about starting this up, but I'm going to be completely alone and have to solo until level cap, aren't I? There aren't any low-level players anymore, right?
>>121911256
We might even reach the bump limit!
>>121914353
If you expect the >vindictus like combat meme, you're gonna get hit in the balls.
The combat is mediocre gw2-like, and the whole gameplay is centered about pvp.
>>121916158
fucking slaughtered my soul right there.
shit ;_;
>>121911256
>see all those new posts,get excited
>"are we finally getting that faggot Hagie?"
Instead i see we got 2 faggots in his place.
>>121916243
Also remember the game has the same 30€ outfitters as vindictus, while being buy2play.
>>121912374
>>121916158
Vindictus like gameplay right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NKZ0AN5IeU
>>121915547
Story quests can take you to about 80 or so, that combined with the fact that s1 raids don't drop anything good means that you're pretty much gonna solo till you can do s2 raids.
>>121916423
Wow that's such a skillful battle. Can't wait for all this true action combat.
>>121916584
>>121916423
>was actually hyped for Black Desert
>see this video
>same generic gameplay as every other popular MMO
>stand in one place, only moving because the monster moved
>mash your highest DPS skill
>mash your second-highest DPS skill while skill 1 is on cooldown
>repeat with everybody around you doing the exact same thing until boss is dead
>all hope in me is now completely dead
I honestly don't know what the fuck I was expecting.
>>121917139
Honestly i've given up on MMOs.If i were to try one it'd beTree of Saviorand that's only because i like its artstyle.
>>121917457
ToS looks nice but currently it is a meaningless grindfest. Class balance and design is terrible, there is no good PvP mode yet, and the story is bland.
>>121917890
Well it IS in beta after allcan't believe i'm using that excuse.
Also,while i haven't followed any news on it
>meaningless grindfest
Aren't most MMOs like that?
>Class balance and design is terrible
This can change by the time it's out although i don't hold my breath.
>there is no good PvP mode yet
Eh,never cared about pvp so that doesn't annoy me.
>and the story is bland.
Usual MMO stuff then.
But as i said,i only showed an interest because i liked its art,don't even know if i'll play it when (if?) it comes out.
>>121917139
Im sorry to crush your hopes and dreams like that Anon. But its better to learn the truth before investing time and potentially money into it.
>>121918649
>ugly baby
>do you even genetics
lmao even hot couples without plastic can give birth to ugly babies.
>>121919335
>defending sneaky sneaky soy sauces
>>121919335
poor babby has to go through life with divorced parents, never to be loved by her daddy
>>121919582
More like "poor baby has to go through a life of being an ugly chinese female in China".
>>121918535
By meaningless grindfest, I mean there is nothing to look forward to except hitting max level. You get stronger so you can grind better and then hit max level and... yeah. Usually MMOs have some sort of endgame content or PvP to look forward to.
>>121922848
Isn't that the same for this game? You powerlevel towards max level then it's nothing but gear autism for higher numbers.
>>121926002
I guess, but the gameplay is way more engaging and there is higher difficulties of content I suppose. Maybe that's mostly subjective though.
So what's the deal with this 'insecure nexon launcher' PSA on vindictus manual and such. Still an issue? Doesn't seem to be any way around it.
>>121926516
Their just complaining because your email you use for your account is saved in a text file in the launcher files, i dont see why this is a security leak when emails are available from any where
>>121928262
How is that not a security flaw? Does anybody still remember the shit that Sony got when during the PSN break-in it was revealed they did the exact same thing with all of the customer info?
>>121922221
>there's a way bigger proportion of males than females in china
there'd sill be someone aroud who would bang her
>>121926516
Because this.
Then they can reset your crimson code with your email.
>>121934031
does that still work? or is it fixed by now?
>>121934031
Does this affect those who launch through Steam, too?
>>121937665
>nexon
>fixed
you should know better by now senpai.
>>121903118
>his rolls used to 1hko fionas, damaging him on the right spot would stagger him, used to be almost impossible and the sticky bombs were used for it but the old amber did it alone.
This literally has nothing to do with i-frames. You're telling me you can i-frame on Amber start-up and I'm saying you're dumb. Go to Havan and try to iframe his mines/tremors and see how far you getoh wait, you haven't even got to Havan yet.
>whats hard to understand in "i quit in season 2 after trying 2 raids and some story missions" ?
Nothing, except that your opinion doesn't matter. You're saying old amber is good because it was serviceable in S1 (which is a complete joke by the way). You also seem to think you have any authority on S2 when you've only done the first two raids, both of which were sandbags that don't even require amber. Stop being retarded.
>her DPS improved because you dont need to continuenly use magic arrow and 3 spells
No, her DPS improved because she can actually stick to a boss now.
>BUT ITS THE NEW AMBER! I SWEAR!
You do realize all of those changes have existed for quite some time before revamp, right? You do realize raze is irrelevant in solos, right?
But I'll be the better man here and end this discussion since you yourself admitted you haven't done any new content with old amber (while all of us have). There's really nothing more to say other than you lack insufficient experience to compare the two.
>>121911379
>correct, but you usualy have to do them both if you want it to matter,
Wrong, again.
>please notice that the guy arguing with me about amber stopped quite a while ago.
I went to bed, friendo. You're dumb and not worth talking to about this subject anymore to be honest.
>Didn't know what continual focus/cast save was
>Didn't play any s2 content aside from Lako/Kraken
>Thinks he can properly analyze old amber
lol
>>121940102
Also, before I go:
>>121911379
>correct, but you usualy have to do them both if you want it to matter, i dont see your point, i have a 66 lann, i havnt played since i came back but i remember it.
Once again, being dumb and judging old content instead of new content. Look at this solo and tell me how many times he chains slip into nimble. It's inefficient as fuck and good Sword Lanns only slip whenever they can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J19j5rSrT8Q
WHAT the fuck is this auto-poison curse at some ben chenner entrance bosses?
even as i'm avoiding all hits, but somehow still getting this debuff, draining my hp like mad
and finally when disappears, i get it again automatically
>>121942192
You need to use a palala to cleanse it. IDK either.
>>121934031
Why dont you just delete your id in the text file after you log onto the launcher?
>>121942521
so is a such stupid ass solo unfriendly gimmick, damn
would be good to get them godly iron ores (and need them too for mat replace, meh, running mainly for only this now)
>>121918649
>mfw even after spending 60 quid she's still pretty ugly
>>121944795
Science can't do miracles yet senpai
>>121944795
chinese girls are always ugly
>>121940536
Damn that video makes me want to continue my bother's old lann.But hagie is close too so it'd annoying having to level/equip/whore out 2 characters at the same time.
>>121942192
Basically it's a curse that stacks as the battle continues and it's removable only by hitting the mini-boss with secondary weapons (2 spears,a palala,etc).It comes in set intervals of around 20 secs and it's used by every mini-boss,only the last boss of an area doesn't use it.
>>121946996
>set intervals of around 20 secs
that's even worse than i thought
felt i got only in series because had a bad streak of luck with them
meanwhile found out can clear it with objects
and while this isn't just tedious, but worthless as can't even wind up another strong combo until the next one
now on second run, somehow managed to clear bosses faster than this stuff could get serious
even without a single damn goddess or trans
(first try reached final boss with 1min left, kek)
>>121928262
>Email is available for everyone to see
>Not a security leak
Aquasol pls go
>>121949103
I haven't really tried it solo cause all of s3 dungeons bore me but i think that curse isn't that bad up to lvl 2.When i did the story missions i'd throw my palala when it reached lvl 3 and it worked out ok.
But,if you don't have the equipment to kill them before it gets high again i'd say go with a party.
>>121918649
>>121944795
but Mr. Feng, your waifu is beautiful now
and just throw the baby in a bin
>>121949851
yeah, now can kill them fast enough before higher levels hit in, if boss doesn't spams some attack shitfest (the first and the village one does these mostly)
will try more with throwing them barrels and crates
of course there are no any one-handed props around
guess its a thing too for folks to buy the mining hamster so they can take palas or spear
Who's the most new-player-friendly character?
>>121958928
kai
Best way to farm AP?
>>121962703
By running dungeons.
>>121962703
If you can afford to use your entries for it, easy raids.
ded
very ded
>get title that says +5 stat
>only get 1
>twice
Anyone know what's up here?
>>121969573
you got partial stats already from partial title, because your other char already had the full title
and now just got the remaining +1 for the full +5 stat in sum
>>121970341
Oh, you mean title stats carry over across characters? I did not know that, thanks.
>>121953845
>aiming for any asian female that cheated their way through
>wanting your legacies to look like shit because you decided to hit it anyways
That article was a good laugh at least.
>>121958928
Kai is your best bet.
>>121958928
HEY ROOKIE
DONT LISTEN TO THOSE TWO FUCKING FAGGOTS
PLAY THE FIRST THREE CANON CHARACTERS
LANN, FIONA OR EVIEDid no one else get mentioned in Mabinogi? Was Evie included in the namedrop or was it just Lann and Fiona who were the heroes?
>>121970651
yeah, np
just seen, you already get 80% stats when discovering title meanwhile having full version done on other char
>>121958928
evie (manashields)
kai (semi-ranged)
fiona (can just turtle)
other possible:
lann (double dodge with good iframes)
vella (chains ranged)
avoid:
arisha (strictest timing for dodges)
>>121973680
>arisha (strictest timing for dodges)
but she has a bajillion other ways of avoiding damage, and can chain most of them together. I still agree to not start with Arisha as a first character because her playstyle is too different compared to the rest of the cast.
just started playing a few weeks ago. Is there a bug with evie's golem or something I'm not getting? Every time I use it on a boss fight the golem fights for a few seconds then just fucks off to the corner of the area and starts swinging madly at the wall while ignoring my commands. Not even a huge deal because it can still get aggro even while doing nothing, but it's really annoying.
>>121974625
When you give the Attack! command you have to be looking at whatever you want it to attack. Or it could just be golem being a buggy piece of shit, you can stop using it once you unlock mana pistols.
>>121972361
Lann and Fiona, although it was implied there were 5 heroes so we can assume Evie/Karok/Kai are in there too.
>>121973680
>arisha
>(strictest timing for dodges)
lmao
>>121974625
This >>121975776
Also the golem is trash and isn't really worth using except for trolling people by body blocking them with it
>>121973680
Arisha is easy mode
>>121976683
Not until 90. Until then, she's a melee Evie without any extra defense.
Which characters are actually difficult, then?
>>121976839
Ruin Blade can oneshot pretty much every boss till Rocheste raids tho
But yeah you'll probably have some problems with Titan or w/e
>>121940102
>an unblockable, unsurvivable attack being broken by amber cristalization isnt proof of i frames
>i cant use it/didnt use it properly makes it not so because i said so abloobloo
and youre this retarded.
>authority
and you have?
iv done 3 raids now, watched the rest.
every single boss in this game is a telegraphed joke, if you have an issue with them while being properly equiped and aware of patterns then you fail at basic human level hand eye coordination.
>new amber is the only way to hug boss
>implying you HAD to hold space while using the old one
see this is why i think youre a fucking retard considering iv said this a couple of times already
if you didnt use amber as slipdash then you didnt use it correctly.
you could break animation and disable it instead of being a volleyball for 3 whole seconds. the new amber is to make people like you bitch less and takes away freedom from people like me.
fuck you.
>raze is iirelevant in solos
>solos
whats your point? yeah sure, use it when start the fight/stagger. avoidable scene aoe. but otherwise its too risky, and?
>season 2 episode 1 isnt new content
>authority of any kind
>needing experience
>not realising new amber is an immovable, lazy keyed, less options old amber.
>thank you nexon please ram my ass and freedom of movement harder
>muh arguments are shit abloobloo youre stupid
not your friendo, comradeer.
>you cant compare two things while using either 1 on anything
>literally this fucking retarded
>needing a highly funded study to classify game mechanics objectively
lol amirite you mongoloid
>>121940536
>takes a raid thats so simple you can hop it
>actualy uses quite a couple of times
>still fucks up
>implying nimble isnt used for anything else
>cherrypicking this badly and failing while at it
>le animu avatar fagging
pretend i posted some sort of chinese cartoon to laugh at you
>>121978496
You would make the EU forums proud with your shit posting friendoKeep going though you're helping the thread stay alive at least
>>121979074
morning anon! how are you on this fine day?
>>121979173
I'm doing well thank you, and while I don't agree with your assessment of the old amber being better like most others here I do respect your dedication to the argument.
>>121979451
>dedication
oh shucks, youre too kind.i take my meds but it doesnt help ;_;
im about to watch izombie and MAOS, what are you guys up to?
>>121975776
I have mana pistols but left them at rank F, guess I should rank them up since now that I think about it they tank better than the damn golem, can be resummoned and don't take 5 seconds to cast. Is there a certain rank I should get the pistols to for them to have enough health or anything? I'm 63 by the way
How's the game doing in the east like CN, JP, and KR? Just as ded as the west?
>>121981612
>JP
Probably deder than AUS
>>121981612
It's actually fairly popular in Korea.
>>121981786
Aus got all the SAO objectives though
>>121981954
>SAO
No idea there was a a crossover event for this. That Kirito outfit looks so bad.
>>121981786
Did it ever reach a sizable playerbase there?
>>121981612
Funny, I looked up the KR ranking and at first thought Vindictus dropped completely off the chart, but turns out it's classified as a RPG, not a MMORPG. And it's doing about as good as usually, 15th most played game: http://www.gamenote.com/rank_ongame/?search_mode=monthly
Have heard some bad things about CN, they get updates slower and overall management is worse than here. Don't know how alive the game is though.
No idea about JP, never hear anything about them.
>>121983567
How many updates behind are we from KR?
>>121984265
Hagie, EP4 and Karok's revamp, don't think they have anything else.
>>121974613
>>121976839
>>121976683
and my ass
iframes are way shorter than the animation
it is fucked up how its delayed compared to the keypress and the beginning of the anim too
chaining is shit because of this and there is still a gap between it
from time to time i get hit in situations with arisha where i simply avoid damage with any other character
and i played/playing all other chars
other survival options either skill or sp based and situational, not for any time use so that is irrelevant
if i, as an older player feeling this way, a new player will experience this too
>git gud
of course, depeding on char, with time you can git gud with it with any of them
and, we talk about chars compared to each others, not just arisha itself
what i can think now, only similar or worse are spears dodge and amber release iframes
and no, i don't say don't play arisha, just play any char you like for fun (i like her gameplay too)
but be prepared for it, will take a bit more time than many other chars
>>121985023
You are shit at the game its okay m8
ded
Does Lynn's flinch have any use in S3 whatsoever
None of the bosses seem to have actual flinch animations, so it just cancels one attack for another, often fucking up people's dodge timings
>>121989808
Nope. Lynn got keked.
>>121985291
u wan fite me m8
>>121989808
>he didn't read the earlier posts
No and Lynn is irrelevant in S3 content in general
Why does nobody pvp in this game?
>>121974613
>>121976174
>>121976683
>I don't play her but I have an opinion
>>/trash/
>>121996838
Because it's built for PvE and PvE combat is completely different from PvP.
>>121996838
It's completely broken. The only motivation to actually do it are the Artifacts and even then people usually resort to trading seals in Arena.
Don't die
>>121997346
>tfw still haven't bothered to get an artifact
It takes so long and I don't have anyone to trade with...
ded
>8 days old
>>121997346
>>122003216
What's the best artifact overall?
>>122008121
As far as i know the most used ones are
Werewolf Paw, Succubus Fang and the one that gives SP (forgot the name).
>>122009126
SP one is Mysterious Cat.
>>122008121
It really depends on your character. Someone like Hurk would benefit more from a werewolf paw and less from a fang and mysterious cat statue, while Kai would benefit from a mysterious cat statue, and less from a werewolf paw or succubus fang.
I wouldn't really recommend taking a succubus fang on a character with a lower amount of deeps they can burst out in 20 seconds. You'll unlikely be able to heal a full bar of health by the time it runs out.
>>122009836
So the succubus fang restores hp based on the damage that you do in that 20 seconds duration? The description on the wiki makes it seem like an instant hp recovery.
>>122006059
STANDING
>>122012818
Yup, if you're a spear lann and activate the fang and go into slashing high, you'll be recovering more HP than you'd be losing in most cases.
>>122012818
The bronze lion statue gives you an instant HP recovery, but not the entire 5000. After the 10 seconds is up you'll have ~2200 more HP.
>>122017601
japan is dead
go import foreigners to repopulate and taint honourable blood
>pitbull jacket
>>122020431
Post puppies.
>>121978496
>I haven't done any real content with amber yet I'm shitposter
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>121985023
Honestly, when I went from Lynn to Arisha it basically felt like ezmodo.
>>122023508
Oh Hagie,where art thou ?
new thread when
>>121996919
But I do play her anon and she was the easiest character I ever leveled up and raided with
dodge into block just chains too well coupled with ruin blade iframes she makes everything ez modo.
>>122023508
Sup Laos
>>122024020
>parroting the same shit about experiencing
>literally refuted in the post he links
10/10 for effort,0/10 for execution. youre beyond help.
>>122030567
Hopefully not in a while, I don't feel like necro-ing another thread to bump limit.
Like right now.
>>122008121
I'd say Cat Statue, most characters work well with the extra SP gain. All Slashing High characters, Staff Evie, Kai, and Hurk if you abuse Ultimatum.
Fang is only good if you're soloing unfamiliar content or for Spear Lann. Most other characters don't gain DPS while facetanking now due to all the buffs on dodge. You need decent gear for it to work too, low attack means low heals and low defense is workable but still limits the amount of mistakes you can make given the long CD on Fang.
Paw is good too, but a lot of characters gain more damage from extra SP. The other issues are this can create stamina problems and for Lynn it changes Zhen mark timing. It's pretty much the best for Scythe though.
>>122034418
Nah bruh, I said I wouldn't fall for your bait anymore.
Go back to whaling on S1 braindead bosses and sandbags.
>>122040036
>most characters work well with the extra SP gain
Except Arisha
>>122042060
Well, that's why I said most and didn't list her. I don't think Arisha benefits much from any of them.
Post Lynn.
>>122043514
Succubus Fang + Arcane Flurry is pretty good
>>122041442
>Still on about s1 raids
>was told numerous times that old is the same with added features, hence better
>"but muh single click heavy weight turd!"
meanwhile iv done 3 extra raids and numerous bosses , all telegraphed out the ass. Either amber works for them hence old is better due to freedom
You really are a special kind of retard
someone make a new thread
>>122044183
It's definitely nice, but it doesn't net more damage in theory given that you can't force super armour without external factors. Fang really is just one of those personal preference things, but I would never really call it optimal.
It's just that Arisha doesn't need extra SP and she lacks the stamina to really abuse Paw without consumables. So the DPS gap is fairly small that most people benefit more from survivability from Fang.
>>122045009
I would but I've no idea how to link to a new thread
>>122045340
Same with replying, just copypaste the thread #id with >>
>>122045271
Succubus Fang is still a DPS increase if you count bypassing the time drinking potions. It allows you to be somewhat reckless every 2 minutes and be a complete jew when it comes to buying potions or merc pots. Remember, you ain't doing shit for deeps if you're a ded arisher.
>>122047305
I said in theory cause ideally you don't get hit enough that the Fang saves much time - and when you do get hit you should be using windows where you can't deal damage to heal up.
Naturally the last part is true, but that's completely dependent on the skill of the person in question. I just like to assume a fairly high level of play cause I don't like having to account for that many variables. I did say that the reality is most people would benefit more from the Fang for your stated reasons.
>>122033314
Man, that guy begs so hard on tumblr for people to pay for his sfm smut, it's sort of embarrassing.
Then again, all those people do it seems, so I guess there really is a market for hopeless losers willing to pay to see their waifu mindbroken by a horse.
New thread here
>>122051248