War Games General - /wgg/

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GET ON TS

COOP IS GO

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=034_1446387820

What tank m8s?

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1st for bmp

>>120963539
He's too serious and a bit of a dick compared to the other top end players. He is also one of the leadership at /r/wargame so a lot of the leddit hate gets passed on to him. As far as game skills go, he's still easily one of the best.

>>120964570
M60

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[freedom intensifies]

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I just realized a Mixed Marine deck is basically a Mixed Motorized deck with more planes

>>120965191
>no recon bradleys
dropped desu

but seriously, its kinda same with USSR.

Old thread:
>>120740547
>>120740547
>>120740547

>>120965883
>no recon bradleys
But Bradleys can't swim, silly.

>>120965883
also disregard that, other than elite morskays in btr-90's the rest of ussr marine a shit
>>120966258
teach them to

>>120966534
They tried, many drowned.

>>120966712
well nobody said that freedumbs are free

WHOOOP WHOOOP

ATTENTION PLANEPOSTERS

ED ARE CONSIDERING A DYNAMIC CAMPAIGN FOR DCS


GO VOTE FOR IT

http://forums.eagle
.ru/showthread.php?t=151627

>>120965191
That looks like it might be fun or frustrating to try. Can't you get the HA or is it prototype?

>>120966753
Wobble wobble.

Do you use stacks or single units?

>>120966849
HA is prototype.

That's why US Marines is an interesting alternative to NORAD motorized: shittier infantry, but you get a heavy tank and more planes.

>>120967621
>>120967621
mostly singles. Easier to pull back weakened or malfunctioning units

>>120967712
>HA is prototype when it was in service in 1989

>>120967621
stack infantry in pairs, otherwise single

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Hey can lonely milsim fags post here?

The milsim thread is kill and the only thing like it is Arma 3 thread. But fuck that shit.

Project Reality has a big patch today. Wanted to bullshit about while waiting for the install.

>>120967797
Forget it, Jake, it's France.

>>120967621
2-stacks if cheap.

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>Mig 21 manual
>Note: IR AA missiles can be used to engage ground targets with a heat signature. Although at the moment I don’t know if this will be possible in DCSW, in this case you need to select the AIR master mode, regardless of the fact that you are engaging ground targets
Do ground units even have a heat signature in DCS?

>>120956709
That looks kinda cool in a derpy way.
Great Crimson Skies material.

>>120958146

>>120967797
Like the bmp-3.
>>120967712
US marines is pretty fun and marines+smaw+engies is arguably better than canuck airbornes+eryx.

>>120967712
HA isn't a proto, just not available to marines like the HC is despite them (in real life) being the same thing. Eugen didn't want the USMC (or NATO mixed marine) to have 2 cards of heavies to every other marine deck's 0.

>>120967924
I personally welcome anything military-related.

>>120966998
Ah yes, the nevereding steppes of the northern Caucasus.

>>120968304
Mavericks can lock onto planes so it's not outside the realm of the possible.

>>120967712
The navy planes are pretty terrible compared to the USAF, you lose out on your only good ASFs and bombers by specializing into marine. NORAD moto still keeps those planes and only really loses out on the Hornets (while keeping the longbow as well) so for the marine deck the air tab isn't really much of an advantage,

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>>120968304
Holy shit I fucking miss Crimsons Skies man, too bad the IP is stuck in limbo forever

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>>120965191
Similarly, I feel that RD Marines is just better than RD Motorized

>>120969327
Not even bad tanks and spec ops in helos is pretty big deal. Same with no hinds or TY-90

>>120969327
>trading every decent unit in RD moto for luzandui
No thanks

>>120967924
I really love PR and have played it for years
sometimes its really really hard to stand how absolute shit it is though

>>120970414
>sometimes its really really hard to stand how absolute shit it is though
In what way? The community? Game engine?

>>120971015
mainly the engine, I don't mind the graphics but every little thing about it is just slightly off or broken, from the map taking 3 seconds to open, to the ridiculous deviation system (and yes I understand why they had to do it)

playing insurgency just really highlights how terrible the gunplay is in PR, compared to what it could be


not only that but often you can just get into a bad squad that either disintegrates under poor leadership, or gets wiped and never really comes back into the game, or just spends the entire round marching round the map never actually doing anything

when things go right its really good, an amazing unique experience
but its overshadowed by the issues to me

>>120971340
>playing insurgency
the game mind you, not the gamemode in PR

>>120968304
>Do ground units even have a heat signature in DCS?

Nope, they have an alive and dead state.

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>>120971602
Well, that blows.

>>120971340
Yeah the gunplay is about as fine as it can get on the engine really.

Bad squads are also a problem, I find that I can lose a round but have fun with a good squad almost every time. Don't often do the latter just travelling the map though.

I honestly wish that I could get some sort of excitement for Squad but I don't think it will be successful, not to mention the 200 player server tests were easily the best experiences i've ever had in PR.

>>120971758

That's what people said about your mother last night.

>>120972007
Comes with the job.
Just like her, hurr hurr.

>>120971340
These are some good points you make.

I love milsim games and have been playing Insurgency for months now. Just recently found Project Reality and began playing.

The little bugs and things in the engine don't bother me too much because the real payoff is the scope and features of the game itself.

Whats the deviation system you mentioned? I haven't had a chance to dig deep into the broader features yet, still learning my way around infantry roles and squad stuff.

The leadership thing is also true, and the game shines when you have a good group, but this can also swing the other way and you have control-freak basement officers who scream at people and act like they're in Delta Force. That annoys the shit out of me as I'm an Army vet and don't like listening to some whiny shit tell me how to do CQB or move in formation.

>>120971758
And here we see the MiG-21 in his natural habitat, the trash dump.

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>>120972445
She had a hard life.

>>120972332
>Whats the deviation system you mentioned? I haven't had a chance to dig deep into the broader features yet, still learning my way around infantry roles and squad stuff.

I am surprised you have ever hit anything with your rifle then.
Because it is impossible to implement scope sway into BF2 engine what they did was implement invisible scope sway

basically after you move, or change from standing to prone, or sprint, or jump your gun is really inaccurate and slowly gains accuracy over a few seconds, same thing after every shot

they are adding a HUD indicator in the new update today I think

>>120972005
Yeah I'm not holding my breath for Squad to succeed either.

I'm certainly hoping it succeeds, though. I think Unreal engine was a good choice.

Part of what I love about a lot of milsim games, mods, etc.. is that they prioritize the features and realism of the game instead of graphics.

As an older gamer, I'm very willing to put up with less than cutting-edge graphics for a richer gameplay and feature experience. Not very many big companies will go this route, though, and I think a lot of modern games suffer for it.

>>120972332
Deviation is a feature that makes you inaccurate as fuck for 2-3 seconds after going from walk/run to standing still.

>>120972773
Ah okay.

Well I've noticed that the round deviation was crazy but I just thought it was a high cone of fire, desu.

I felt it was getting more accurate after a few seconds of sighting-in. Glad I'm not going insane yet lol.

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>>120973018
>desu

>>120973359
we word filters now, family

>>120969327

What the fuck is that deck? RD marines and not a single card of Luzhandui 90, the only unit that makes the deck worthwhile?

What's your helo rush going to do once it runs into a celtic or dap. Hell, even shit like cassiopee.

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>>120973359
baka desu senpai

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>>120969327
>All Heli Inf
Nigga what are you doing?

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>>120973359
f a m
c u c k
t b h
s j w

All meme'd with new words.

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>>120973625
>>120973489
Whoops, forgot about the chinese muhreens

>>120974154
What the fuck is up with your screenshot.

>>120974442
fog of war

>>120971340
>Bad leadership
>Implying anyone ever listens to squad leaders.

Mostly why I dropped it. My group always pigeon holed me into squad lead because they were too lazy, but it never matters. Pubs, friends, no one ever fucking listens and just picks whatever kit they want before lone-wolfing and then crying for a medic while being 100m away.

I just got tired of the trash community after awhile. The teamwork is non-existant in a game that can only function with teamwork in the first place. The game is essentially unplayable 90% of the time. It gets worse whenever a patch comes out and brings in a bunch of new/returning people too.

>>120974813
I rarely have problems with people not following what their told, its almost always squad leaders who aren't proactive enough that leads to people drifting away

almost always 90% of the players are 100% well behaved

>>120974154
>not the 90s ones
>>120974442
kek

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http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=151627

>tfw can't decide

>>120975734
Dynamic campaign, nigga.
The rest can wait.

Do custom DCS skins show up in multiplayer? How frown upon is to show up with completely unhistorical skins?

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>>120975812
But century fighters!
But Apache!
But KC-135!
But REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>120963916
>last thread only lasted two days
wow

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>>120976041
You want DC for them when they arrive.

>>120973761
yeah I typed t b h. I was actually going to write out "to be honest" because that's actually what I wanted to fucking say, but short hand.

Thanks 4chan.

>>120975734
Vote for the dynamic campaign and hope ED delivers and doesn't fuck it up

>>120974813
Yeah man I haven' been playing long, but once I started joining pvp servers I noticed that almost every squad had a leader that was vocal and the majority of players listened.

You may have just had some bad experiences. The community is small enough that I think most people are willing to play along and cooperate because it's really a part of what makes the game awesome.

>>120976019
Nope if the mission has a custom skin, and a player doesn't have it, it'll default to a set skin.

>>120976790
What the hell? Even fucking IL-2 has the send skins feature.

Unless you misunderstood my question.

>>120976790

kek

>>120976992
It's true. The mission the server is running has to specify every custom skin that they want to use, and then they'll have to tell people in the mission description to go to download the skins separately.

>>120975267
What server do you play on. Maybe German players are just really obedient or something, because on American ones people don't listen for shit, and their only desired interaction with the squad is pissing and moaning about rally point drops in situations where you very obviously cannot place once, or begging for a medic because they ran off and did something stupid. The community in PR is a complete joke. They are MOBA-tier.

>>120977968
I play on American servers, Candy Van, CIA, and that other one
Southern USA are some of the best players by far IMO, and regular americans aren't bad most of the time

Players in PR ranking:
South USA > ANZAC > Europe > Northern USA

>>120978292
Meh. I guess I'll give it another go. Haven't played since the surge from standalone came. Was simply unbearable.

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there was an attempt

ABRAMS HAS NO COMBAT LOSSES THEY SAID

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>>120979656
that's a lot of monkey models

>>120979656
That's what happens when you let sandniggers drive tanks.

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Thanks for the fun time tonight lads. Here is the only thing of note that I did.

>>120980497
>>120980701
>Trying to apply shitty wargame memes to DCS
I mean I like wargame but I think its about time us plane posters got our own general. Maybe /fsg/ could be revived

>>120982095
pls no

without planes /wgg/ is ded again

I'll stop shitposting I promise

>>120982095
If /fsg/ is revived, it'll die soon after, like last time. Let's keep /wgg/ and /fsg/ merged.

>>120981946
Nice kill dude, wish I could have played tonight

>>120982195
>Being this desperate

>>120981946
>Labels

you disgust me.

Why don't we try playing IL-2 1946?

>>120982095
What are you gonna post?

>Which stick to buy?
>Which modules to buy?
>When is X coming out?
>X module when?
>Why is X so X?
>Comfy shit

Go ahead and make your thread, but you are dead in less than a day.

>>120982587
I don't have it but I don't see why you guys couldn't. Personally I wouldn't mind playing some FSX

>>120982998
>I don't have it
Just fucking pirate it. I don't think the original devs would get any money anyway, and besides the non legit versions are able to play online with legit ones since forever.

>>120983260
and if you must have a legit version at all costs it's like 10bux on steam

>>120983695
Better off to get it on GOG, you can control when it gets patched if ever.

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>>120982430
I didn't know I could turn them off. Sorry

>>120983695
Even less on GoG, and IIRC it regularly goes on sale for like 2 and a half european monopoly currency.

>>120973359
for those who don't know, it's from /4ccg/
some fag was bitching about the recent match and unconsciously typed desu at the end of the sentence for a few posts until he realizes he been doing it.
you just witnessed a birth of a new epic meme, or return of desu meme

>>120983957
>you just witnessed a birth of a new epic meme, or return of desu meme
It's a wordfilter for niggerspeak. It isn't as good as tracing the wiggers and actual feral niggers and forcing them to work into cotton fields, but it's good enough.

>>120983260
Oh I didn't know the online would work, sounds cool. Would still like to fly some fsx though, military flying is stressful

>>120983893
I'd expect this kind of stupidity from Toni but not anyone else

>>120983893
don't apologize you fucking bitch

Labels > no labels is a huge leap and it's alright if you aren't ready yet

I'm not

>>120984079
the fuck are you on about

>>120983957
Think it had something to do with Halloween, it was happening to a lot of posts. Must have been something with the theme

>>120984185
See >>120973761.

>>120984450
all those unnecessary repetition of the words nigger just make you sound like an edgy /pol/ fag desu senpai

>>120984079
Are you for real? It's hilarious desu.

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what's with the "nk a shit" meme
it's not a bad deck as far as nationals go

>>120984389
>>120984581
yep i see it. Hiro is fucking with us again

>>120984661
lel kek

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It's even better than I imagined. Also is there something that makes FSX replays less shit? I had to actually do this in third person because the replay only updated the plane's speed every 5 seconds.

>>120984079
>It's a wordfilter for niggerspeak.
Thank god, senpai.

Kerri and socks are coalburners.

>>120984096
NO FUCKING EXCUSES

though they are useful for missile training, you shouldn't be bragging OOH LOOK AT MEEE when you use labels.

>>120985860

Fuck off back to your ded thread.

>>120985908
I beg to differ. I can't see shit in most of the webm posted.

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>install BMS 4.33
>promptly get overwhelmed
>no help text on hovering the mouse over buttons
I see I'm going to have fun with this for a long time. Though I'll need the comfort of my 21 for now.
God damn it, LN, hurry up with the Tomcat.

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>>120984661
You know a deck is shit when it's on the level of Denmark

>>120986298
>I can't see shit in most of the webm posted.

You can't see shit in most of the game

Welcome to modern air combat.

>>120986527
Denmark doesn't have three superheavies

>>120986631
NK doesn't have aa.

>>120986631
Literally the only benefit NK has. Their medium tanks are worthless, they get outgrinded in forests and towns, and their airforce and ADN is horrible. You better protect those T-90s because it's the only thing separating NK from being mediocre and being absolute garbage.

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)))))))

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>>120987087
slav pls

>>120985860
Why am I a coal burner? What does that even mean?

>>120988076
You like the homosex with negroes.

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>rescue successful, all ammo spent, enemy destroyed
>everyone fences in for the RTB
>landing in formation, perfectly fine
>touch down softly, brake and chute
>buddy is going to fast and runs off the runway into the commieblock

there was an attempt

What does "fencing in" mean in the aviation context?

>>120989246
Leaving friendly skies and entering enemy airspace

>Denmark doesn't have superheavies
>Otomatics aren't superheavies

kek

>>120986527

Denmark and Norway are the 2 most viable 40% minors. DLC 3 did wonders by giving them 2000's equipment to fill all their old deck holes.

I'd say Denmark/Norway National is more viable than say, the Czech or Japan.

Japan really should be a 40% country, their deck is so lacking in so many ways. All they do in BD is provide the koreans a couple gap-filler units. The vast majority of a BD deck is Korean.

Then blue dragons can be bumped up to 25% bonus avail.

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I'm getting serious Ace Combat 04 mission 1 vibes.

>>120993764
That cockpit looks sweet. Is it fully clickable?

>>120993660
>Norway and Denmark more viable than Czechs

lol what

Only thing Czechs are missing is a respectable fighter. Norway is totally defenseless against helicopters.

Both also have dogshit for tanks (Leop 1s are nice but you'll never break through a heavily defended line with them) and helicopters.

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>>120993660
>Denmark/Norway National is more viable than say, the Czech or Japan.
>Denmark
>more viable
>Czech
srsly nigga?
I mean denmark are pretty good but
>no wheeled transports except for reservists
>tiny selection of infantry, though what is there is pretty good
>no good artillery, apart from otomatic fairly mediocre AA
>no tanks past leopard 1A5
>recon not bad, jagers, M/95, vilcat and cayuse are pretty good
>vehicle tab pretty shit
>only ATGM + 20mm helis

The only thing denmark does better than Czech is better ASF, better ATGM plane, better cluster bombers, and better fighter (and even that I'm not sure of, I mean two 1000kgs on the Su-22 is pretty good)

>>120994319
>T-72M1M
>Moderna
>shit

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>>120994162
Yep, although, the radar doesn't work. But that can wait until DCS.

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The entirety of this deck is made of "best in class for the price" units, except for the strv 121 (worse than the leclerc) and leo 1a5no2 (worse than the mexas).
>+15% bonus avail
>same as nswp
>5% less than poland
>balanse

>>120994467
i meant norway and denmark have shit for armor

>>120995016
>bkan + amos
say goodbye to your supplies

>>120994467
>apart from the best aa in the game and sead-immune hawk, fairly bad aa
And the recon tab of america is fairly bad apart from the longbow, bradleys, seals, rangers...

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>>120995016
>Using amos

You get 16 shots per 65 pt mortar. Hope you don't like doing things mortars are god at say smoke walling, or moral suppression. You barely have enough ammo to make your cost back sniping units.

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>>120995004
Nice, time to mod shit.

>>120994319

Nasams destroy helicopters that get in range, wheeled means it can keep up with the armor. You get 6 of the things in Norway national.

Czech are missing SEAD, Tanks other than Dyna and Moderna are overpriced. Infantry tab has to rely on Grantomets against infantry. Infantry tab has no high-power launchers other than 7VR. Czech have better coverage than Norway/Denmark, but the Scandinavian units are better as a whole.

On the other hand, I took a look at Japan national and holy shit they are missing so much. Literally the worst air tab in the game.

Eugen you dun fucked up when the JASDF is worse than the Nork air force. But then again, considering how the JASDF is basically USAF-lite, I'm not surprised.

>>120995303
>smoke
>necessary with space scandi
Nah I'll just instantly nuke every soft target instead.

>>120995004
I like how nobody ever made AC campaigns remakes that aren't shit for any sim. It's as if all of them specifically tell you to play with unlimited ammo.

>>120995540
I mean, not only that, but they usually seem to set the enemy AI on the lowest levels of difficulty too. At that point one might as well just play AC.

>>120995239
Is there anything else in his deck that needs a lot of supply?

>>120995303
>16 shots
What?

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>browse mods for DCS
>find Mig-31BM
>look up a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsvqozHcU-8
>that IL-2 level cockpit
I don't even want to fly it anymore (looks aside I can't imagine the flight model to be anywhere close to satisfying).
That song though, been trying to transcribe the slavspeak without success. Anyone know it?

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>>120995389
It was only released in July or something, so I don't know if there's a torrent around.

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scandinavia is only part of the problem

>>120996534
>that pic

god the flogger is a sexy plane

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>>120997253
>flogger
я в шoкe

>>120998394
why are you posting a picture of a fencer

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>>120998561

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>>120998561
>fencer
я в шoкe

>>120998561
>>120998692
Fucking hell.

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>>120998767
>Fucking hell.
я в шoкe

>>120998883
is that a fishbed

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>>120998919
no this is :^)

>>120999065
>posts a picture of a frogfoot
>this is a fishbed :^)

are you trying to ruse me?

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>>120999127
>frogfoot
here

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>>120999065

>posting a Fitter

m8

>>120999271
thanks

you have any pictures of flankers?

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>>120999358
ya

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>>120999480
Those intakes are fucking massive.

>>120999480

real talk though, the 25 is swole as fuck

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>>120999654
skips leg day though, just look at the 31 in comparison

Thank you based mig 25/31 posters, my fav two planes

I'm thinking about getting a CH fighterstick and keeping my 3D pro for twist rudder and the extra programmable buttons. Will it running both sticks work in DCS?

>>121003354
>buying a stick that's over a decade old
>for over $100

What the fuck.

>>121003505
>buying a 3D pro when the T16km exists

>>121003505
I heard it's build quality is better than the X-52 and X-55 which has shit QC.

>>121003595
Not in my country it doesn't. I would have had to pay double the price of the stick with shipping factored in.

>>121003723
>Not in my country it doesn't
Even if you live in some shithole like the balkans you should have a means to get it. I mean, if you can get your hands on a Logitech you should be able to get your hands on a Thrustmaster too.

>>121003853
It would have cost double. At that point why not go balls deep and get a proper hotas? The 3D pro was a temporary measure anyway.

>>121004168
>It would have cost double
Even at retail stores? Even if bought second hand? Even if bought from slightly shady "unofficial resellers"?

>At that point why not go balls deep and get a proper hotas
I hope you aren't saying that the CH Pro is a proper HOTAS. As far as I know it isn't even that great of a stick.

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based
a
s
e
d

>>121004376
>Even at retail stores?
It would be cheaper to import the T-16km from amazon than to buy local.

>Even if bought second hand?
The local flight sim scene is non-existent and I'm not about to save a couple of bucks buying online only to find out it's defective and waste more time and money trying to resolve the issue.

>Even if bought from slightly shady "unofficial resellers"?
If they exist, I don't know about them.

>CH Pro
>Stick, not throttle

What's your suggestion? I can get an X-52 for a reasonable price but I'm not too sure about it's build quality.

>>121004976
>buying online
You're supposed to do that kind of thing in person. Ask the person you're buying it from if you can try it on his PC. And bring a friend.

>If they exist, I don't know about them.
If you live in a shithole chances are that appropriation and reselling of electronics happens rather often. Ask your IRL friends and their friends' friends. Check the local flea markets too.

>What's your suggestion
If you really want to go balls to the wall just get the Warthog and those expensive as fuck custom made pedals.

>>120995086

you have the most overpowered tanks per price in the game

>>121005615
>you

>>121004717
I wish we could take BMP-3 as vehicle, or put a 2man recon team in it or something

>>120966765

my ass is hard

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why aren't YOU using the Unstoppable Armor Meme


>win every game ever
>pic related

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>>121004976
CH HOTAS owner here.

Build quality is retardedly amazing. This shit won't break ever and it's easy as fuck to open it up to do maintenance if you need to. Just be sure to get the whole HOTAS set and not just the stick, as it doesn't have twist and the little throttle rotary wouldn't be as good as the throttle unit to use.

It may be old as shit but it's a proven, solid HOTAS system. Unlike the X-52 anyway.

If you got any questions, ask them, I'll be here for a few minutes.

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>>121006607
Meme decks

desu senpai

>>120963916
hey everyone. Im here for DCS:World.
What is the best server to play on.
Are most of the servers on 1.5 now?

>>121007259
I could manage the stick + throttle but getting the pedals would be stretching it too thin. I usually play the WW2 birds so rudder is pretty important. Does the CH pro throttle have anything to help with that?

>>121008220
I heard tales of someone using the microstick as a rudder, but nothing besides that.

>>121008124
Join the /fsg/ group on steam if possible.

When we assemble to play, we generally have someone host a mission or something of the sorts for the time being and someone posts on the thread. Just come into the TS from time to time to check for ops.

1.5 has quite a bit servers running already. At least I'd say it's comparable to 1.2.8

>>121008369
Could I at least hook up my old 3D pro for the rudder inputs?

>>121005615
>12 AV tanks
>sufficient for pushing

I know you're a shitter Tied, but even you can understand why you can't just win with a bunch of Leopard 1s

>>121008639
That would look a bit silly. But yeah it can work. I don't think manning 2 sticks and the throttle is very productive, though.

>>121008902
Yeah, it's not ideal, but hopefully the black fridays sales knock the price down a bit. I intend on getting the full set eventually anyway, so it's only a matter of time. Thanks for the help!

>>121009146
Anytime bro.

>>121009146
>getting the CH pedals
I hope you're good at DYI shit. There's reason why they're called nutcrackers.

>>121009318
>>121007259 here

What? I don't think I've ever run into a single problem with the whole set in the whole 3 years I've owned it.

>>121009402
The fact the pedals are so close doesn't bother you at all? Moreover it seems that you have to put your whole feet on them in order to operate them, rather than just pushing them with your feet's tips. Which as far as I know is how WW2 aircraft pedals were used.

>>121009242
Have you ever flown DCS with /wgg/?

>>121009629
Not really. They're pretty comfortably apart for me. I'm also 1,84m tall if that matters. And generally I don't operate them with my whole feet as they'd put me in a rather uncomfortable position.

>>121009946
What's your shoe size?

>>121010071
10~11US

>>121009883
Yes.

>>121010340
You didn't happen to be flying a 109 did you?

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>>121010071
Here's how I use them most of the time

>>121010431
Nope.

>>121010630
Well, I'll be flying more once I get my track IR and hotas. See you around.

>>120995086> flogger
right, sorry.
>>120995276
got mixed up and thought EOTS was norway
but still, 25km/h, 5hp, no armour, plus it feels it always misses whenever I use it, even hardened.

But denmark has no anti helo IR AA. Otomatic does the job until SEAD comes in.

Don't get me wrong, I love playing Denmark but still, Strops and OSA-AKs for me have been more effective when I've used it than EOTS or any hawk for that matter.

>>121010501
We rougly have the same height and shoe size and seeing how close the distance between the pedals is makes me uncomfortable.

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>>121010501

Get outta here with your fat nerdfeet

>>121012034
>EOTS
>worse than OSA-AK

dude memes lmao

>>121015994
I didn't say it was worse.
I just said I have better luck
besides
>two osas for the price of one EOTS + 1
>also more hp, missiles, more autonomy, much faster
>only disadvantage is it being radar (which doesn't matter too much unless you fucking suck), lower range, and -2 HE (also doesn't matter too much)

OSA AK is the most god mode SAM in terms of cost efficiency

Why do people play Wargame? What's the appeal?

>>121017453
It looks pretty

>>121017453
It's slow and easy, doesn't really have any depth outside of the deck building, so it's really simple to pick up for new people if you have any sort of mind for RTS games at all. Also, appearance wise it's not bad at all, though all the fancy attention to appearances is largely wasted by being zoomed out so far that you only see boxes. Also, nationalism.

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Who /devilish robin hood/ here?

>pay for addons that I think deserve the money
>torrent those that are overpriced

>>121017453
It's accessible. I don't play other RTS games and I appreciate how Wargame doesn't demand Starcraft 2 levels of APM or micro. It doesn't have basebuilding either. All of this gives it an "easy to play, difficult to master" kind of vibe.

The recon/sead/aa/tanks/atgm/arty/infantry etc. dynamic works REALLY well.

It's sorta realistic, there's a lot of bullshit (maybe even too much depending on you) but isn't nowhere near as bad as something like World in Conflict. It's close enough for me and it's lovely seeing all the nicely modeled units fighting it out, it's pretty. Also nationalism.

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>>121018531
>slow and easy
>slow and easy
>SLOW AND EASY

>>121021643
But it is. How many RTS games do you play? Compared to almost every single other game of the genre, it's pacing and input-requirements are pretty damn laid back.

Seriously try playing some shit like AS2 against even your roughly average players. If you think Wargame isn't slow and easy to play, what IS?

>>121021565
>World in Conflict MP
>bad

Another arty idiot it seems. WiC had a functional server browser, full ranked mode, group/clan settings, fucking VOIP, midgame joining etc. the list goes on.

WiC MP was ahead of its time while the french fucks cannot make a proper server browser in fucking 2015.

>>121021565
and the truth is, while I have seen other games do various things better than Wargame I feel like nobody else actually *does* Wargame better. Like there isn't a "better" version of Wargame and if you go in the direction or more gamey or more realism you end up with different kinds of games.

>>120985224
nice shadow faggot

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>>121021916
Don't forget it's clan support and dedicated server support. Not to mention, you know, fucking mods; Something that separates PC gaming from console peasantry.

>tfw Wargame will never have anything like the MW mod.

>>121021916
Nobody is debating that Eugen is competent (seriously, one of the most incompetent devs I've ever seen).

> WiC had a functional server browser, full ranked mode, group/clan settings, fucking VOIP, midgame joining etc. the list goes on.

None of those are related to the actual gameplay, which is what I disagree the most with. WiC was just rock/paper/scissors all the way. I don't care if the server has clan support if it's not fun to play.

HELP

I'M IN BMS

THERE ARE A BAZILLION AIRCRAFT ON MY RADAR

I HAVE NO IFF

WHAT DO I DO

>>121022362
Shoot everything and regret nothing, comrade.

>>121022348
*if the game has clan support

You can go the other way and say it doesn't matter how good Wargame is if it's unplayable, but the fact is that it is playable enough.

"The enemy of perfect is good enough."

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>>121022362
Pop in this and just go fucking ham until you're out of ammo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWUmIAs89n0

>>121022162
Mod support, map editor, dedicated server support which you could easily set up and not to mention the devs are helping the community to make their own master server since Ubishit wants to shut it down.

Massive are based as fuck.

>>121022348
The focus of WiC MP was TA point pooling, you had to share your hard earned TA points with others or else the enemy would wipe you out. Nukes are shit and most only played on no nuke servers.

>>121022362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU3pmXvnc0k

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>>121022762
>Massive are based as fuck.
There are two things that rustle my shit more than anything else in the gaming industry.

The first is everything revolving around Lab Zero's current situation and how a decent dev just kinda got completely shit on.

The second is Ubisoft's total raping of Sierra and Massive, and adding gratuitous insult to injury by purposefully stunting WiC's potential to kill it off, and sticking Massive on shitty CoD-clone FPS games when they are traditionally an RTS developer. Massive and Sierra were a potent as fuck combo, and I really, really fucking hate the modern consumer base of the gaming industry because of what's ultimately happened to the two companies.

>>121022630
Why is the bitrate so shit WHAT THE FUCK

Don't listen to this fag, find a good download of the whole soundtrack, and the soundtracks of the other Ace Combats, and put them in a playlist.

>>121022968
>check who Lab Zero is
>its some weebshit developer

Comrade, may I remind you where the fuck you are? You get a free pass this time for being one of the few to remember the fates of Massive and Sierra. But I'm gonna keep an eye on you, comrade.

>>121023192
>Youtube

Gee I'm sorry let me take the time to download the album and upload it on mega for a brief joke.

You're a special kind of dumb fuck.

>>121023292
Lab Zero is western, anon. None of their games even have a Japanese character in them. They have a similar art-style to anime in some respects, but that's about where the Japanese influence begins and ends. No need for throwing me in a Ural bound for Siberia.

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>>121023391
At least find a good example on youtube, you lardshitassdickcuntnormietslav

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st84hazcfMU

>>121023628
The entire point was for him to play it while fighting. Hence why the extended version. Are you fucking retarded?

>>121023681
Then use youtuberepeat, lardshitassdickcuntnormietslav

>>121023391
>check website again to confirm and to apologize
>browse a little
>big eyed gook pictures everywhere
>moonrunes on several points

Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice and off the the gulag camp with you.

I bet you are that exhentai bob faggot

>>121023724
>>121023681
>Not having the entire AC series soundtrack in flac.
>Not having the hardware to listen to it in it's full glory

Stay pleb.

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>>121023730
Pls Tovarisch, it was only for EVO!

>>121023816
I have both. But I'm not going to waste time uploading shit just for a joke about a guy's situation in a flight sim.

How hard is this to understand, anons

>>121023874
No i don't care bout the video, just general listening.

>>121023816
DCS: Shattered Skies when
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZBoiW460nU

>>121026594
When faggot ED releases a map creator so we can recreate strangereal.

So probably never.

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>reading red storm rising
>author's face

was this really a bestseller..

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>>121027415
>red storm rising
From burger, for burgers

>Tunguska-M has same IR SAM range as a Grom MANPAD

This has to be a joke

Fixing up my USSR deck in Wargame and I'm thinking about infantry transports. Do you guys think spets or GRU should be in the BTR-90?

>>121028872
GRU yeah, makes for a very strong opening unit

>>121027415
Remember, The Hunt for Red October was extremely well received only two years earlier. Published by the U.S. Naval Institute Press, renowned for its accuracy, praised by Ronald Reagan himself.

RSR isn't bad, but the only good parts were probably Larry Bond's doing.

Try reading Ralph Peters' Red Army which is like RSR from the opposite perspective. NATO is incredibly incompetent, falls for every single ruse, no one has critical thinking skills etc.

Stick with the middle ground "war is hell" novels like Chieftains if you want less jingoist WW3 stuff.

>>121030398
Nah just stick with art of war.

>>121030591
read CIA presidential briefings for hilarity

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THIS IS FINE

>>121031626
Which sever do you play on and how did you screw up that bad?

>>121031764
104 and 159 usually
That was caused by AAA

>>121031626
it's better to land with the gear up when it's like that.

>>121031764

>People playing my absolute lunacy missions.
Brings a tear to my eye

>>121031890
Yeah, that's what i ended up doing

>>121027415
Only in burgerland

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I see a lot of /wgg/ posters today so I will see what you guys think.

>/wgg/ Wargame: Red Dragon Nations Only Tournament
>3v3 conquest
>1 use of a nation per a team
>fast and brutal qualifiers and standard best of three for the actual tournament

I will have a steam group up by late November and start the tournament in early December. Nations only (with no 3x USSR) should lead to some interesting team set ups and strategies. I have a couple teams already interested from the steam group and some more from the forums, but I want to see if any thread buddies were interested in forming their own teams. Since there won't be any coalitions the meta will be quite a bit different and hopefully friendly to players of any skill level.

>>121032145
Would be blufest because their nations are more competitive solo, even if you did ban USA, but it sounds interesting.

Should I disable MSAA and Anisotropic Filtering for performance gain? I'd rather run DCS at 1440p (currently at 1080p).

>>121032354
USSR, China and CZ make a pretty solid team but I definitely see what you mean. No restrictions on what side you play so I suppose it will be up to the teams to figure out an optimal strat. I am still working out the kinks though so if we need to add some blue restrictions that is fine.

>>121032472
oh, I thought you meant you're banning USSR, but you were just referring to the rule where the nations have to unique. Nevermind then.

>>121032972
Yep. I just don't want 3x USSR vs blue. I think USSR should balance out the weakness of any of the other red nations

why do you guys hate 10vs10 in wargame

I just played it and we got our shit absolutely slapped by blufor but it was enjoyable

>>121035604
Because the worst part of an already shitty community gather there like flies

>>121033019
USSR and USA should be the only countries that were capable of doing everything by them selves logically, everyone else was supposed to have coalitions.

>>121032972
>>121036121
do you thin the red v blue balance for this would be better if USA was constrained to a thematic deck?

>>121036243
I'd just leave it as it is and see what people end up choosing.

>>121036340
yeah that seems best

>>121036243
I think the Red v Blue balance would be better if things were standardised price and performance wise.

But Eugen cannot into simple math or logic.

>>121036639
I prefer the current RD to an RD where everything is "standardised".

>>121036747
Standardised doesn't = symmetrical balance,
It means non arbitrary values.

>>121036838
They're only arbitrary because you don't agree with them.

>>121036914
No they are arbitrary because they are arbitrary.
I don't think you understand what arbitrary means.

>>121036953
It means "anon doesn't like them" in the way you use it, which, while incorrect, is something I didn't want to lord over you. Most units are priced with a very obvious logic to it.

>>121037037
It's okay to pretend that, but we all know that isn't true, also i wasn't talking about price, and you don't even know what i was refering to in the first place.

But it's okay to troll post everyone in a while.

>>121037131
every post you assert something with no argumentation, nod to yourself how correct you are, and when challenged, you repeat again how you are by definition correct

truly, everyone who disagrees with you is being arbitrary

How to git into Wargame? Read the fuckhuge guide and then start playing around with stuff?

planeposter here

Is wargame going to teach me about general military equipment (ranges for weapons/SAMs for instance) or are the numbers made up / adjusted for balance?

>>121037237

play single player first, its kind of babby mode

in online play strategies such as spamming an assload of tanks won't work though so you need to painfully learn how to combine units so you don't get ass raped

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>>121037213

>>121037440
>memegenerator
>.net

>>121037237
Spam vdv90 in all the forests, when you meet someone who can counter that add a unit that protects you from his strategy, repeat until you can into combined arms.

>>121037381
nope, massively adjusted

>>121037381
>are the numbers made up / adjusted for balance?
You can always go to some range and try to hit a target with an smg at 400 meters.
Most other weapon ranges in game are similary distanced from realism.

>>121037237
I found that reading the guide first is pretty useless as you have no idea what it all is about, read it after getting a hang of the game and controls in sp but before going into mp

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In the heavens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9xkxwSwJBs

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What NATO nation would be best for mechanized? I'd prefer to stay away from coalitions but if something is be-all-end-all for mechanized then I'll take it. I'm thinking either US for the transports or Deutschland for the infantry.

>>121039560
WGer, but if you accept coalitions scandi is pretty much tailored for mech

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>>121039456
>All these MiGs
>All these Sukhois
>All this VVS

It-It's beautiful tovarish...

>>120966998
i never saw the fun in formation flying in dcs

Is it a bug that the S-80 rockets have the same HE as much smaller rockets? And also the S-80FP was introduced in 2014, did they mean S-80KOM or something?

>>121040241
It's fun when you're really good at it.

>>121039631
I dont really like Scandi's choice of other units though. Any other viable options?

Also what about best for Redfor mechanized? I've been taking russia but getting my ass handed to me, so I'm not sure.

>>120982430
fuck off, i play on a small screen, i need labels. a speck of dust could be dust or a su-17 coming at me

>>120993660
what do you mean by 40%? ive been here through the beta and maybe heard that used once

>>121021916
but wic was literally rock paper scissors. it did have good functionality but once you figured out the game play in an hour it was boring

>>121041175
40% availability bonus, meaning eugen thinks they are really weak and probably shouldn't be played standalone.

>>121027415
>>121030398
If you want good cold war stuff, read anything by Harold Coyle, particularly Team Yankee and Sword Point.

>>121040650
Bloc mechanized was all the rage a few months ago. No idea if it's still true.

>>121040650
WGer/Eurocorps

>redfor mech

You're better off moto, I guess NSWP is not so terrible since you get shock infantry and some other toys

>>121045121
I think that was before the scandi patch.

>>121045283

One problem with NSWP mech is they don't have a heavy APC to push out other APC's. Their great special forces are all religated to helicopters (and no LSTR at all). Also their air tab is a lot weaker than Ec/Scandi.

Still the best mech option on red.

>>121046453
>Their great special forces are all religated to helicopters

That goes for every mech deck though?

>wargame disconnects you from 10vs10 because your computer is too slow

what the fuck? I got legit 20fps at least what the hell is this

it booted me out at 892 conquest points jesus christ

>>121047124

Other mech decks are less reliant on their SF as a whole.

Not getting LSTR robs NSWP of their superlauncher, while EC and Scandi have Pzf3 and Eryx/CGM3.

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>mfw

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>>121048332

>>121046453
>>121045283
I think mixed redfor mech can be pretty good. You get the cheap vetted nswp shock infantry with russian air and some other nice toys, like tung-m and that 5he 15 point infantry support vehicle.

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http://dobrochan.ru/src/pdf/1205/Red-Army-by-Ralph-Peters.pdf

If you're interested, this is Ralph Peters' Red Army, detailing WW3 through the eyes of the Soviets.

>>121042145
shit, i feel retarded now. i knew that

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>>121007462

cute

WHOOP WHOOP

EMERGENCY BUMP

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Which Hawaiian island should I fly at in FSX, /wgg/?

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>>121055402
Shit is this a flight sim general? Been looking for one for ages.

Do you have Orbx Global?

>>121056112
I think I have it downloaded, but not installed since I reinstalled FSX. Right now I just have that Catalina island freeware thing from Aerosoft, and the Hawaii Photoreal project.

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>>121056289
Noice, got any plane addons?

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>planeposters taking over


MAKE WAY WARBABBIES

THIS IS OUR TURF NOW

>>121057678
That doesn't mean you can post weebshit.

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Alright guys it's me again. Let's finish this

>BTR-50

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>>121057678

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>>121057764
DESU

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>>121057769
>BTR-60

Despite the notebook being 1983, no presence of BTR-70 let alone BTR-80

80km/h is as fast as T-72

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>BMP-1
only known as "BMP" in this book, maybe they didn't heard of the BMP-2?

funfact: did you know that BMPs kits were used to design the "Chimera", a vehicle in Warhammer 40,000?