>Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final announced
http://megaten4f.jp/
>More information about Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final
http://pastebin.com/Kj5FyHCY
>Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final Trailer 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39SuZbvv9vY
>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png
>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/qqxkrWFh
>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/Np1ng1kx
>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU
>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB
>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/
>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf
>Previous Thread
>>120702213
SMT IV worst SMT
why is there no good porn of isabeau?
This picture is bad and you should feel bad for posting it.
Anyway
Can someone remind me the big dungeon at the start of Soul Hackers? It was some sort of training ground, floors were blocked depending on your power or something if I remember correctly. Where is it?
>>120956504
It's the Hotel. It's at sea or something.
>>120956415
Because she's not from Persona.
>>120956415
>why is there no good porn of walter?
There, I fixed that for you.
>>120956504
>>120956565
Is the Sea Ark hotel really a dungeon?
I thought it was just a safe spot for grinding, recruiting and healing if you felt like doing it, andfor the endgame dungeon.
I
KUno
>>120957029
It's for grinding. It archives the demons from each dungeon on each floor.
>>120957029
I just want to re-learn the game because I forgot everything and don't want to start overyet
>>120957149
I had no idea of that. I guess it'll come in handy for when I decide to do the endgame dungeon.
>>120956323
>can still see his scarf
aw man
>>120957013
>>120956415
>tfw that Hikaru and Jonathan doujin will never ever be scanned
>>120958123
Why don't you seek it out and buy it instead of whining about it every other thread?
>>120956415
>You will never impregnate and have lots of children with Isabeau
>>120958665
Isabeau is shit waifu material anyways.
>>120958665
>Implying humans can get monkey pregnant
>>120958841
>implying
I bet your waifu is Zelenin or Nemissa
>>120958841
I thought she was cute and a likable character.
>>120958665
I don't think she'd make a very good mom
Why do people say Cielo is useless on the first game and awesome on the second one?
fuck smirk
>>120960834
It's a little spoilery:In the second game you have a revolving door party and Cielo sticks with you the longest
>>120960834
Better stat distribution and his ailment weakness isn't as bad.
Soul Hackers fag from the other thread here
I give up, I'll have to start the game over to remember all the shit, my stats and demons are fine and I know where I'm supposed to go but I can't get back into it.
Which means it's time to forget about it for now and try out Digital Devil Saga
>>120962425
I can't find the subscribe button for this blog?
>>120962425
DDS is pretty fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH6rFrXThZs
How come we didn't get trailers like this and just got halfassed ones instead?
>>120964668
Atlus tried really hard to push DeSu 2, huh?
>>120964668
>Jungo's voice actually fits him
I'm still laughing at how he sounds in English.
>>120965056
It could have worked if they didn't fuck up with that misleading no-fun-allowed anime.
>>120964668
that trailer is for an updated port, there was a lot more they could put in the trailer without spoiling shit. Also, we're still 4 months from the JP release so we get the good trailers right before release.
>>120962425
Every time.
Now you won't play it until a year later, or maybe even more.
>>120965221
I'm talking about Japanese trailers vs NA/European ones.
>>120965641
oh, because Atlus doesn't care about anything outside of japan
>>120956325
>SJ worst SMT
Agreed.
>>120969186
It's actually the best one if you aren't a law"brainwashing"fag or chaos"fuck everyone"fag.
That neutral ending was very mature and epic, you finally understand the meaning of being a human, that you are imperfect, but the balance between order and freedom is the only correct choice.
Also, who is insane enough to choose angels or demons in place of your own race?
So, I unlocked the Angel fights. I know that one is still in the EGG Facility, and that I have to fight them before I go to the Airport, otherwise I can't do them again. Can someone tell me where the others are, and if there are any other special bosses I can go do before I leave for the Airport?
Also, Serph is level 41 while everyone else is 48, if that affects anything. Also doing hard mode.
>>120970046
>Also, who is insane enough to choose angels or demons in place of your own race?
>>>/v/315078104
>>120970046
>Actually going neutral
Haven't seen anyone confirm it yet, but it looks like the stats haven't changed from IV to Final. I can't read moon but side by side the characters look the same. This means we still have Str and Dex, yet no Vit.
>>120970046
>>120970491
>Flynn gets a 3D model
>Edgekun gets a portrait
Does this mean no more fashion?
>>120970697
>Does this mean no more fashion?
I hope not. Dress-up was one of the best things about IV
>>120970697
Highly doubt it
>>120970697
The level up screen uses the artwork, the status menu screen uses the 3d model.
>>120970512
When does say say that?
>>120971485
beginning of the game, when you're all on the roof admiring mikado
>>120970491
Edgekun's canon name is Nanashi? It is what is written on his name.
>>120972901
It means Nameless you stupid fuck.
>>120973034
FUCK
>>120970491
>ナナシ\
Edge-kun is foreign?
>>120977346
Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>120977476
He probably doesn't know that much about moon runes. In beginner moon courses they tell you katakana are used for foreign words and onomatopoeia.
>>120977476
It was a joke, calm down.
>we'll never fight demons in the name of Allah
>>120980450
Sure you can. Just go law.
>>120964668
>Atlus removed Providence the final battle version off of youtube.
Damn it Atlus. It's so good though and I don't want to go through the story again just to face Canopiss.
>Have to go to tumblr just to listen to it
>>120970491
I assume STR might tie into DEF now so it isn't as useless as it was in the original.
>>120983894
Can't you download the OST?
>>120984072
That's quite an assumption since the entire system in SMT4 was hinged on the idea of there only being offense stats, and 'defense' being controlled only through resists and buffs or RNG based things(agility dodging).
I thought it was a MAJOR improvement since nobody invested in Vitality seriously anyway unless they ran out of other things to put it in(i.e. all the games where MC couldn't use magic, and were more boring because of it)
What I'm more concerned about is what, if any routes are going to be in SMT4F? Edgekun doesn't seem like he could become a lawfag, so I'm a bit afraid it's gonna be like Nocturne in the 'Chaos is the only fun one so we'll give you shitty reasons that all fall under Chaos instead'
DDS2 question, do I need to care about which bonuses I put in every ring? Should I just save them to put them in end-game rings?
>>120985362
Put rare gems into end game rings. Others for anything you need help with stat wise.
>>120984737
Based on the way they talked about it in the NicoNico stream, it seems like instead of the traditional LNC system, they're focusing more on 'Monotheism', 'Polytheism', 'Deicide', and likely some other 4th option related to Humanity or 'Rejection'. Daguza seems to be the advocate for Deicide, and Vishnu for 'Polytheistic Group' (for lack of a better word), but it's not clear yet whether the Monotheistic side will be divided up into separate halves for Lucifer and YHVH.
>>120985661
Are gems limitted or can you get as many of them as you want?
>>120985668
So those are like Demifiend markings
>>120985918
Seems milder than his were, but something like that, yeah.
>>120980450
You do that in every law route in SMT except II though, are you retarded?
>>120985875
I think in the last dungeon enemies start dropping em everywhere.
>>120984737
They've already added a new debuff of stats for battles.
>>120985918
They mark him as Dagda's bitch.
>>120985668
It's Dagda.
>>120986970
Ah, I see. Wasn't sure what the proper romanisation was for that.
I wonder why Dadga wants to kill every demon even thought he is one of them.
>>120987214
He's already dead. He meets the protag in the underworld.
>>120987214
Look up what deicide means.
>>120987457
I hope you aren't seriously this retarded.
>>120985668
That doesn't sound entirely terrible, depending on the context. Still worried about the design of the MC, it honestly doesn't seem very congruent with SMT4, it's even a little edgy for a Chaos hero.Also, no shotas pls
>>120987779
I answered that he's dead. Nothing else.
>>120987878
I don't think the motorcycle jacket-esque design is all that bad, the different patches and logos give off an almost Akira vibe and the shoes/pants remind me of DDS. I just don't like how young he looks.
The strange is, the art style in some of the cutscenes (?) is pretty different from that main piece of art, both for MC and his friend, so maybe Doi isn't doing those.
I hope I can work with the fairies without having to help Hindu/Buddhists. Nothing against them, I just wanna go full fairfolk
DAN numbers...
>>120989717
My sides
>>120989717
So it sold like shit?
>>120989717
Who's Dan?
>>120988169
Yes, which is something a retard would say.
>>120989717
that looks like that's from a website that users sign up for and display their achievements or something
cause I know for a fact persona 4 golden sold way more than 52k copies.
>the dome was made because time travel
>the archangels were sealed because time travel
This bootstraps shit is retarded.
>>120990657
The dome wasn't made by time travel. There legitimately was a previous incarnation of Flynn who merged with Masakado and created it.
>>120990175
What? Dagda even died in myth and he's a skeleton wearing armor.
>>120990220
Yes, PSN Profiles.
>>120991609
Yeah. It's not a sales report or anything. That being said, it's still represents some copies sold, and 2.5k is mighty low. I doubt DAN sold more than 50k outside of Japan.
>>120960834
He's useless in dds1 because ailments have a huge hit rate and are used reguarly in that game and his weakness to them just makes it worse.
>>120990783
>The dome wasn't made by time travel.
I'm going to believe the game over a retard on 4chan.
>>120994586
I think in game there's actually backstory about where it came from that contradicts the time travel mission though.
>>120991364
>a demon is in the underworld which means it died
That's not how shit works, it's a stupid statement.
>>120989717
JPN version.
Is P4G PAL and NA separate trophies then?
Why is TDE considered chaos? Just because Lucifer?
Instead of being a useless asshole who just resets the world so it happens again or a tyrannical asshole who wants to make a shit world you try to rebel against the system and free all of creation of this bullshit.
>>120996321
Because individual worlds have structures and rules in a way. If you destroy all human worlds, and have the people just kind of exist outside them, the reality would probably end up more like strange journey's dark world.
I think the real question is why was lucifer trying to destroy the world in nocturne. It doesn't match well with his usual gaian earth worshipping religion.
>>120996321
Which is why Chaos is best route, glad you came to realize that.
>>120996321
Because you become a demon and join Lucifer's army to destroy god? Like, it's pretty overtly stated that you're going to do battle with YHVH.
>>120996945
>Like, it's pretty overtly stated that you're going to do battle with YHVH.
So actions are all that matter, reason has nothing to do with it?
>>120997108
All routes in Nocturne are Chaos.
>>120996945
So? Law and chaos as terms aren't defined relative to gods. they're ideologies that the demons usually hold, but which in certain games like nocturne are mixed up. No one thinks that fallens in nocturne are acting very chaotic.
>>120997108
Pretty much. If you want to create a more peaceful world by killing god and overturning the power structure, it's still a chaotic action even if your thought is benevolent.
>>120997190
Except for the fact they're all law outside TDE.
>>120997318
No. In an interview they said all the characters are different forms of chaos.
>>120997318
How on earth is Yosuga law?
>>120997403
They're all following the rules of creation provided to them by the Great Will (law), even if their reasons are forms of Chaos. Nocturne doesn't neatly fit into alignments.
Just started Nocturne for the first time about 4-5 hours ago. I was playing Strange Journey before but damn, Nocturne is fun.
>Finally got a 3DS (well 2DS used from Nintendo)
>Finish SMT IV
>Patiently wait for Soul Hackers to go on sale as people say Atlus games go on sale on Eshop all the time
>Soul Hackers is $10
>Nintendo eShop is down
I'm pissed desu. How long do eShop sales stay active
>>120997417
How is it not?
>>120997530
That still makes their reasons Chaotic. That's like saying that every ending in SJ is Chaos because they all utilize the Schwarzwelt which is chaotic. It doesn't really work that way.
>>120997190
Shijima and Freedom aren't chaos.
>>120997709
Because it's a world where only the strong and powerful survive and prosper. I think Chiaki even calls it a world of strength.
>>120997685
You can buy the physical game new for like $15.
>>120997530
The great will isn't law. It isn't really anything other than a vague concept that demons in-universe anthropomorphize into agreeing with them. Since its the summation of reality, viewing reality as a unifies whole rather than its parts is metaphorically lawful.
Either way, law as defined by mainline games is not something you can say yosuga is, since it is the equivalent of mainline chaos, but only not called that since there's an even more meta chaotic seeming option. Its stupid to ask what alignment some things are in this context though, since as defined by mainline standards law and chaos mean specific things relative to eachother that break down when trying to also use other definitions of law and chaos and making vague options that skirt the line. Its arguing about semantics. They don't use the words law and chaos in that game for a reason. And its because it would be pointless to try to slot them in a way that makes no sense.
>>120997685
The sales last like 2 weeks. I think you'll be fine.
>>120997629
Where is the subscribe button for this blog?
>>120999446
I LOVE this meme
Is Persona Q worth $20?
I enjoy Etrian Odyssey
Persona is alright, not really my thing though
>>121000327
It's designed for people who loved Persona 3 and/or Persona 4, so probably not.
>>121000327
it's a very causal EO, if that sounds appealing then go for it
>>121000413
Like Untold story mode casual? That isn't so bad.
>>121000574
far more casual, it's made for the Persona 4 audience after all
>>121000378
Really?
I went to /pg/ for like two threads and barely anyone mentions it.
>>121001190
It was designed for that audience, it doesn't mean that audiences necessarily likes it. Plus it came out almost a year ago.
>>121000574
>Put Naoto in your party
>Congratulations, you've won every non-boss/FOE encounter already.
>>121001498
I'm not playing Persona without Naoto so fuck it.
>>120997880
>Because it's a world where only the strong and powerful survive and prosper
And this conflicts with law where exactly?
>>121001943
that nose disgusting
>>121001943
What doujin is this referring to?
>>120972901
>>120973034
>ナナシ
>名無し
>七死
Nanashi no Game sequel confirmed
>>121002372
It's an original.
So, I just beat SMT 1 for the first time. Man, that game is rough. Boss fights are a joke difficulty wise and the encounter rate is ridiculously high, especially near end game. I thought the story was cool, and it still had that classic demon fusing formula. But please tell me that SMT 2 is much better or else I don't know if I even want to bother.
Also I got the neutral end, how are the other SMT 1 endings?
>>121003278
>Also I got the neutral end, how are the other SMT 1 endings?
They're basically the same. Instead of the old man, Lucifer/Michael come down and congratulate you for realizing their world of chaos/law, then the game ends. SMT2 is better.
>>121003380
do they fix the problem where just about every boss can be beaten by stunlocking?
>>121004030
Yeah, for the most part. Stun is still strong.
>>120970112
One is at the processing plant/prison. One is at the big headquarters tower, and the one is in the EGG facility like you said. After you beat them, you can go back an area near where you start the game, the place where you can go outside and see the sky, and fight them all again. Once you fight them all again, the fourth one appears and once you beat them, it unlocks a new mantra.
I don't remember there being anymore hidden bosses before you go to the airport, so you should be able to run through those bosses and then head out.
>>121003278
2 is 200x better. The art is way cooler, and actually stylized rather than looking like someone just couldn't afford anything more than a six year old with paint. The battles while still archaic are actually tolerable. The story is even better, and its just all around a better game.
>>121003380
Its not michael. Its just a mysterious unnamed blue robed messenger from god. Unless they indirectly imply it was michael without saying.
>>120972901
It appears so, likely just the default one.
>>120973034
So? Most japanese names mean something, those are still names.
>>121004380
Oh, maybe it was metatron or something
>>121001943
monkeys shouldn't wear human clothes
>>121003278
2 and KMT improve on 1 in every single way, it's one of the main reasons why everyone says you should play 1 before them, so you can appreciate how much better the later games were
>>121002297
Because in law there's a strict hierarchy that everyone must adhere to. Everyone's basically a cog in the law machine. The weak are protected by the strong.
>>121004707
I actually played 2 over half a decade ago, but 1 was so shitty I'm only now forcing myself to trudge through it.
Megami Tensei the Mahou Shoujo series when?
>Five girls were chosen to save the world from demons and false gods with the power of love, friendship and magic!-and also with blessed ancient weapons and holy texts of every religion known to man
>each girl is from 5 different monotheism; zoroastrianism, vedism, judaism, christianity and islam
>with their comps, they transform into magical girls to eradicate the world of living magnetite amalgations summoned through the devil summoning program
>their comps allow them to summon digital angelic brings to combat the forces of chaos
>the main antagonist will be Lucifer and his demons
>followed by deicide of other beings like Izanami, Shiva, Ogun etc.
>mascot fairy is a cherub calling himself an avatar of yhvhplot twist will be that it is just another digital false idol just as the other demons who has been playing the human race for wars between theologies. This cause the girls to start working together with their once fought demon enemies to fight yhvh mascot an his army of angels
>>121004569
You wanna fight, m8?
>>121003278
Terrible.
SMT 2 has shit magic (Good luck dealing with Girimekhalas), has even more BS (Like you get level 20 enemies when you are like level 7), negotiation is a mess, and Mag is scarce as fuck.
Good story and improved fusion but thats it.
>>121004847
I played the two at the same time and i had more enjoyment out of SMT 1 than 2.
>>121005094
1 doesn't even have cutscenes. Conversations are like two seconds long. Whe chaos hero leaves law hero doesn't even have a line.
>www.smt-dds.net is kill
Where did it all go wrong
>>121005231
But negotiation was fun and magic was uselless crap, also didnt had to waste time fighting zombies to get mag.
>>121005331
I can get on just fine.
>>121002437
i thought that game already had a sequel
>>121001943
Bring back drawfags
>>121005331
>www
smt-dds.net works for me. Pascal is still there waiting for me.
When are we getting vol 2 of Quantum Devil Saga dammit?
Are there fan translations?
>>121005504
>>121005571
Oh, weird. It was showing a suspended page just a day ago.
I mean, it hasn't been updated properly in a year, but still. Kills my soul when that or the DDS forum never really took off enough to attract people to give more of a shit about SMT.
>>121003278
>please tell me that SMT 2 is much better
>>121005746
The translator said he got the go ahead, and that was the last update. I don't think it's been a year.
>>121005748
I'd use other places but for some reason anonymous posting never took off for any English sites like it did 4chan.
>>121006054
I WISH 4chan was less popular. Leave the retards to forums where retarded samefags can be easily identified.
>never heard of dds net being a real website
>go there
>check the compendium
>go to Napaea
>Diarahan
>Megidolaon
>concentrate
what?
>>121006219
The problem is while 4chan is too popular everywhere else is dead as fuck. There's no real in between.
>>121006313
I think some of them are mixed up, Pixie's is correct but many of the fairies have incorrect skillsets. I don't know if the site owner still comes around here.
>>121006406
This general isn't too populated. There is fuck all to discuss.
>>121006547
I could answer questions about Devil Summoner 1 stuff
>>121006680
When can I play Devil Summoner 1 in English?
>>121006547
This general and some of the smaller boards are alright, but going to /a/ kinda sucks.
>>121006547
There's plenty to discuss. There's just a few people here who don't want anything but new game information to be discussed, and so every time new people come they drive them off and have a dead general again. And so conversations go nowhere since no one hangs around. I think some of these people have legitimate autism. Not 4chn buzzword autism, but seriously. Since when asked why they have a problem with this, they literally have never provided a real answer, but insinuate that it should just be emotionally intuitive to everyone. This is how people with autism actually function, since they don't understand that random things they want aren't universal, but just personal desires, and so they don't understand that their own personal emotions are not a universal standard that matters to anyone else.
>>121006783
I don't know, ask the translator guys or any desperate fools who want to translate it. It's not THAT hard to play though, I beat it on actual PSP hardware.
>>121006783
When you bargain your soul for the opportunity with a demon.
>>121006680
Is Rei in love with someone in particular? Is the MC gf aware of his state as Kyouji?
Anyway Kaga is still alive in SMT IV Final somehow?
>>121006912
>Implying
negotiation is a mess, i have beaten other japanese games withouth knowing moon but DS 1 is impossible witouth a negotiation translation at least.
>>121007105
Nope.
>>121007105
Only if Xi Wangmu isn't dead yet and I'm pretty sure it happens late game so doubt it.
What ending should I shoot for in SMT 2? Neutral?
>>121007018
Rei's just tsuntsun for Kouji but she's kind of frigid desu my senpai, you get more of a sense of that from SH I think.
As far as I know, no? She's more of a plot device and nobody will believe you about you being You. It might be discussed near the end of the story.
>>121007164
Explain how I did it only knowing how to read some hiragana/katakana nigga? The good thing is that most of the conversations are fairly repeatable, and if you don't want to deal with it, just grind magnetite and use the compendium in the PSP version. It's EZ mode but if you really can't deal with convos it works.
>>121006903
Chill nigger. I'm tired of hearing about this boogeyman. This is probably one of the more composed generals out there, when was the last time we had active shitposting?
>>120987457
Out of all of edge-kuns friends, this is by far the most unassuming and least talked about ones. What do you guys think about him or what significance he has on the plot?
My gut says he is going to be a polygod fan and maybe even a demon/reincarnation of some god. You get him after your first companion (your childhood friend) or afterNozomi. Who would be the second friend to get.
>>121007386
They're all pretty good.
>>121007442
Everything about him screams non-human to me.
>>121007437
>This is probably one of the more composed generals out there, when was the last time we had active shitposting?
When was the last time we had any posting before final? I pointed out that the general is dead since they drove everyone away. So you're asking about a completely different problem. This general is more or less worthless now.
>>121007442
He's gotta be chaos. Fiery vest, wild look in his eye, painted nails...
>>121007646
Then leave, buddy. So sick of hearing this whining about scary shitposters that apparently bullied this thread to death.
>>121007247
Someone being eaten doesnt mean that someone dies.
>>121007386
Yes. It sucks to get alignment locked out of demon options.
>>121007437
>Knowing moon
No wonder you beat that game.
Shame about Rai and gf.
Holy shit look at the ears. Their kind of pointy.
Guy who's playing SMT4 as their first SMT here.
My luck with this game seems to be really good. One time I had a really Agi-heavy team, and then when I tired to round it out, the next boss was weak to Agi.
I'm all the way up to Shibuya now, trying to find that club.
SMT is a really good series, I'm glad I'm giving it a shot.Also, going Law for the first time around, saving Neutral for NG+
I just made it to Bootes in Strange Journey, any demon suggestions? I'm getting my ass handed to me and don't know what to move towards in terms of fusion.
>>121007880 meant for
>>121007619
and>>121007442
>>121007725
>>Knowing moon
>Implying
I can like, read about 10 kanji and can recognize a few words. It's like learning the alphabet and trying to understand full sentences. Devil Summoner works the same as SH, and if you can understand spells, items, and equipment you can get through most of it.
>>121007725
>Someone being eaten doesnt mean that someone dies.
Anon I don't know what you're expecting to come from her being eaten aside from being turned into a smelly demon shit.
>>121007665
His jacket also has the kanji for evil on it IIRC. He's probably a chaos demon in disguise, maybe another disguise of Lucifer's.
>>121007724
I did leave. I check back every once in awhile to find out whether its back yet. But that's like hoping to find an oasis in a desert. Better to just go by a place with real water able to be found.
>>121008084
I don't have any reaction images on this new pc but pretend I posted a really exasperated picture
>>121008048
I cant have spells with no demons.
>>121008050
I think you didnt saw that pic related movie.
>>121008018
Moh Shuvuu
>>121008004
>law
Come, ye lifeless puppets of God! I shall snuff out your ostentatious lights.
>>121008004
You chose wisely. The wired thing is that even though law is the best ending, some of the things that give you law points make no context in the sense of the ending.
>>120984737
Speak for yourself.
I always max out vit for MCs without magic, and it is my second priority for physical oriented characters.
>>121008231
>pic related movie
That movie ain't SMT though senpai.
>>121008004
Law is best end desu
>>121008004
Forgot to ask.
Should I keep giving updates like this, or is it too tired and beaten for yall?
>>121008532
Go ahead.
>>121008262
>people still complaining about law.
No one has made a single viable argument against law since the beginning of the alignment wars. Even if you want to go by coolness and edginess factor it still wins.
>>121008532
I like hearing people's reactions to SMT games. Keep going if you want to. It gets a lot crazier later.
>>121008532
So long as your posts are about MegaTen do what you want.
>>121008479
But it takes place in another world just like SMT!
Dont be baka now.Whats with all the desu snepai stuff? Did int just memed another senpai?
Do you think we will ever see the US as the bad guy in SMT again?
>>121008586
Law is equal to the old "protector of humanity takes away all freedom to protect them" trope.
At least in chaos it's been proven humans can equal demons in strength by fighting.
>>121008723
What is a wordfilter
>>121008004
>Also, going Law for the first time around, saving Neutral for NG+
Wise. Law has no NG+ exclusive content unlike the other alignment endings.
>>121008586
Here's a viable argument against law: it advocates for genocide and brainwashing. Sometimes both at the same time, depending on the game.
>>121008769
Whan wasnt the US bad in SMT?
>>121008723
New world filters, and they're fucking pefect. baka senpai get with the times.
>>121008586
>>121008610
>>121008637
>/smtg/ isn't mean
Thanks guys, I'll keep you posted once I move the plot forward a bit.
>>121008723
>not knowing the latest wordfilters
baka desu senpai don't be a failure of a human
>>121008723
Word filters that replace nigger twitter speech with superior Wapanese. It's a huge improvement.
>>121008827
>>121008873
>>121008941
Just noticed it, sorry f a m
That nip faggot is already fucking up 4chan.
>>121008860
Strange Journey?
>>121008941
>>121008952
>>121008873
>wordfilters
wait seriously? That's hilarious desu senpai
>>121008997
Fuck off, wordfilters are great, and >>121008952
>>121008997
>fucking up
Pretending he's not mining our data I'm gonna have to say you're a huge faggot desu. The new word filters are a massive improvement.
>>121008838
Wow. So people die in strife based situations. You kill people on every ending. If your argument is that [people experiencing untimely deaths is bad] then you lost already, since law minimizes those overall as the counterpoint to chaos in which people dying who are weak will be a staple forever, and so you have the other extreme. But this explains why you're nto attuned to understanding that.
http://www.utilitarian.net/hare/by/1981----.htm
I meant real points though, not descriptions of your emotional reactions against things you're unfamiliar with.
>>121009030
SJ was a multinational team of the best and brightest, plus Protag is meant to be from whatever country the player is from according to the devs.
Not that America's ever been evil in an SMT game. Dropping a nuke on Tokyo is old hat, and that Patriot fellow seems like a lovely chap.
>>121009030
In SMT 1 they nuked japan, in DDS they created the cuvier syndrome, they nuked japan in IV (?), all the nations fucked up the world in SJ and all the nations helped to stopt it (neutral).
SMT is anti US as fuck.
>>121009185
You literally commit genocide in IV's law ending just because you don't like the people of Tokyo. Please try to defend this.
>>120957013
>>120956415
I could do it if someone commissioned me :L
>Alignment wars
>>121009387
Got a portfolio?
>>121009387
do it for free
>>121009260
Yeah but they seem to be less emphatic about it in newer games.
I mean they substituted Mikado as the chosen land of Law instead of the US in IV.
>>121009387
How about YOU commission my fist to NOT punch you
>>121009387
>:L
Come on anon, this is an imageboard. Use an image.
>>121009260
>they nuked japan in IV (?)
They did?
hey some one clear this up for me because it's been bugging me
Spoilers for IV anon
>IV's law ending is overloading the reactor to destroy tokyo
>White ending is destroying the reactor to end the universe
How does the same reactor produce two explosions where one literally ends a universe but the other only blows up 1 city?
>>121009669
Thats why the (?) part, dont remember well but since SMT IV is an homenage to the other games i assume it was the US again.
>>121009553
>>121009416
I'm smacking the Yamato reactor and no one can stop me.
>>121009669
That's why the Dome went up, why Blasted Tokyo is a desert, etc
>>121009260
Thor nuked tokyo in 1
in DDS Cuvier syndrome was because Serph made god angry
YHVH nuked Japan in IV because it was full of filthy chaosfags
>>121009445
I barely get commissions so I couldnt show you finishedthe ones I did so far are super autistic and im not showing thatstuff but I try do doodle stuff for boards, keep in mind that its just doodles i make in 5 minutes max, So its not my best
>
>>121009452
I wish I could spend hours on a drawing for free
>>121009523
hue
>>121009553
im poor anon I cant afford fancy pictures, thats insane!
>>121009714
I think it's because in the white ending they used their power to enhance its detonation, and in the law ending you're just conventionally blowing it up. Or something. Either way the white ending was done with their blessing.
>>121009290
No. You do it because doing so causes the creation of a world where strife no longer exists, and so overall deaths are minimized due to a situation in which peace is obtained, and people are altered to necessitate its continuing exists, which the omniscient narrator confirms is a plan that worked. You can't say its about "not liking the people there" gibberish when you take into account that in your process of doing so you not only address the fact that isabeau is a victim of circumstance, not someone who deserves death, and you further end up having to get rid of yourself ad even the angels as part of the plan, making it obvious that it has nothing to do with not liking anyone. What you are struggling with is the fact that you don't see past the immediate sense, and so don't realize that jut tallying the immediate negatives, and not the death prevention that stems from it is incorrect.
The angels wanted to save everyone from tokyo that they could too, but the point is that as the past showed, wasting time to find out how to just resulted in mastema and aquila screwing them over for literally a hundred generations until they got another chance. That's way more people having to suffer through shitty situations than the amount left in tokyo. Demons got out and they could no longer contain them, so they decided there was no more time and they needed to nuke tokyo now. What you're not understanding is that on the huge scale, plans that kill a few people to protect far more are acceptable. If they weren't, you couldn't even fight back when being attacked in war without mental hijinks. What you're doing is getting confused and focusing on only the killing, but not the fact that its done for larger overall protection from death. And so by defining [people having untimely deaths] as bad you therefore defined law as the best ending. At least make a serious criticism.
>>121009889
I didn't realize they specifically blamed the US on it though.
>>121009892
Im sure an embassador cant order a full nuclear wipe, thats a white house level of command.
Serph was american working on an american soldier project.
YHVH probably used the US again to nuke Tokyo.
>>121010083
hush beadman
>>121010083
Why does Law always come back to the decision to nuke Japan in WWII?
>>121009980
draw Isabeau with huge titties giving flynn a paizuri and I will pay youin kisses
>got bad ending
>I'll go back to get my chaos ending
>2+ hours worth a content left
Damn, glad I went back and got chaos. My NG+ will probably be law/neutral
I'm stuck atm on Seraph in the chaos ending. Purgatory is one of the coolest looking zones in the game
>>121010083
In IV Merkabah literally demands that Isabeau should be put to the death because she read some manga once. Please try to defend this.
>>121010219
Should've stuck with white and gone chaos NG+ since it has NG+ exclusive quests. Don't pussy out of your decisions son of man.
Do you need to level Roland as well?
>>121010351
No. In fact, you probably shouldn't at all.
>>121010120
>Im sure an embassador cant order a full nuclear wipe, thats a white house level of command.
I really doubt a small early 90s Japanese dev team would actually bother to research the US government system for their demons vs angels game.
>>121010321
I said I got the bad ending, my first run isn't done yet. I'm stuck at Seraph like I said, when I finally finish my first run ( as chaos) I will go for a neutral/law run in my NG+
>>121010120
It's fucking Thor nigger I ain't gotta explain shit
>>121010120
>the scientist who fucked up was American therefore I'll blame America
It's not like he was ordered to flood god with stupid bullshit
also YHVH could have used any country to nuke tokyo because every country worth their territory has nuclear weapons.
>>121010224
No he doesn't. He points out that she read it, and that she is also your enemy. Considering that she's literally there to fight you to the death, he wasn't the one who started a fight out of nowhere. Plenty of people in mikado read books too, and are still alive at the end, so you clearly are not describing a hard and fast rule. Much less that you seem to e making the implication that its for no reason other than not liking manga.
>>121010481
I skipped over the last bit I guess. My bad.
>>121010605
>She is Unclean and would lead we righteous ones astray
Seems pretty clear cut to me. If you're exposed to elements that law doesn't like, even if incredibly minor, you're their enemy.
>>121010421
Probably but it was still launched from the US.
>>121010351
Yes, Heat a shit.
>>121010486
Thor is just a glorified henchman.
>>121010493
Again Serph worked on an american project endorsed by america, Beck being there as proof.
Your second point is about SMT IV or I?
>>121010617
Can anyone agree with me that Purgatory is the coolest looking shit ever though? It was the first time in the whole game that I went "wow that looks nice" why the fuck did they wait the whole game to show me a cool looking zone like this. Also any tips on Seraph?
Just beat this dude. Metal as fuck design.
>>121010904
You let him take Isabeau as his wife, right?
>>121010758
Serph fucked with god on his own time, it wasn't a government order to try and obtain the power of god. Just because an American fucked up doesn't mean America is at fault.
>>121010746
Wow. What a coincidence that your enemies whose literal active goal is in fact to fight against you, which they are literally in the process of dong at this exact moment are in fact your enemies. That sure is a crippling blow. You should take that one to debate class.
>>121010960
No, my waifu
>>120989717
Good.
Perhaps that'll show Atlus that they can't milk shitty games out of their popular franchises and get away with it forever.
And really, DAN is just a terrible rythm game all around if you forget about the P4 and fanservice flavour.
>>121001943
Omg i drew that a long time ago im so glad you still kept it. It means a lot
>>121011008
Unclean is the designation used for the people of Tokyo, AKA the people you entirely kill at the end of the game. She is Unclean because she read manga. The implications seem pretty obvious to me; if you read manga you'll be killed.
>>121010904
>Went into Kagome Tower expecting something like the Tower of Kagutsuchi or Karma Temple
>>121010120
Thor wasn't the actual person to launch the nukes, was he? I mean if God can slip in someone as an ambassador for America surely he can slip people into the higher levels of the American military. I just always assumed another agent of Law was capable of launching nukes from America if needed and did. Hell, I'd bet the American military (besides those working for Law) didn't want to launch any god damn nukes but failed to prevent it happening.
>>121011159
I think it is more about her mind being opened up to other possibilities that opposed god's will. Even at the beginning of the game she waffles between Walter and Jonny boy's positions.
No room for a waffler.
>>121011474
>I think it is more about her mind being opened up to other possibilities that opposed god's will.
Yeah, and that's garbage.
>if you read anything that gives you a perspective beyond what I want you to know, you'll be killed
>>121011159
I literally already pointed out to you that it shows in-game people who read things from tokyo but were not killed. If you don't have anything real to say other than pretending your point didn't evaporate then come back once you have anything to go on but emotional reactions.
>>121010962
It still portrays America in a bad way, Jenna is also an American isnt she?
>>121011387
Its possible but still seems like that was inspired by the Hiroshima events which japs still hates america about.
>>121001498
>don't put Naoto in your party
>Congratulations, now every encounter will last 10 minutes
After you reach the spooky dungeon, the game pretty much forces you to abuse hama/mudo unless you are a masochist.
>>121011558
That is how Law works. That is how you keep order, especially in a society with a class system like Mikado.
I'd take it over Chaos and basically living life as a moden day Iraqi.
>>121011798
This is a setting where you can gain the power of demons and become really strong. Live a little, why don't you
>>121011798
Class systems are anti-law. Those are a result of a bad outcome that happens when random clusterfucks get in power and use law for their benefit. The angels came and got rid of the luxorors. Even isabeau on neutral points out that they're gone now.
>>121011982
Oh well even better.
>>121011936
Even if you somehow amass the most power and take control for a while, how long until you are toppled? Even the neutral ending sounds rough.
Give me my brainless thoughtless comfortable life.
>>121012216
>Give me my brainless thoughtless comfortable life.
Okay hold still let me brainwash you
>>121012216
>Give me my brainless thoughtless comfortable life.
Are lawfags NEETs?
>>121012306
>>Give me my brainless thoughtless
That kind of describes chaos though, desu. When you're literally constantly struggling to stay alive, there's little room for intellectualism.
>>121012401
Exactly so why struggle? Let it be.
Or go Neutral and try to build it all up again waiting for it to crumble back down in the next HAPPENIING
>>121009445
if you want to see more of my stuff before making a decision you can also check my tumblrtheindigohero.tumblr.com
I also drew these a long time ago for these threads
http://imgur.com/a/6Vo3B
>>121012216
>how long until you are toppled?
You literally beat a demon with the same level of the Lord of demons.
No other demon can touch you.
>>121012808
Didn't you learn from star wars? Even if no individual one can, then a group of them can unite to. Note that even in game lore, michael is far weaker than lucifer, yet is the one who cast him from heaven.
>>121013317
Yes but you have an army of demons yourself.
>>121013454
Didn't you learn anything from SMTII? They are chaos demons. Most of them don't give a shit about you, or even chaotic ideals save when they benefit, and just want your position for themselves. And in IV kenji was depressed since he really was the strongest, so his life was basically trashing random people who came to fight him all the time. Which gets really boring and depressing really fast, especially if many of them were former friends.
>>121013727
I meant your demons controlled via comp, if you can fuse Metatron to fight YHVH then you can control yours easily.
I've been putting points into Luck and End for the MC of Soul Hackers, and just Mag and Agility for Nemissa, am i doing well so far?
>>121014592
You'll probably want some STR on the MC for offense. All LUK isn't too viable. Nemisa's build is okay, though INT is good for her as well.
>>121014661
That's what I was guessing, thanks for reaffirming it.
>>121012351
No.
>>121007442lucifer
I really wish they'd do more disguise shit like Satan in 2
>>121015261
I wish that since we get the same demons over ad over again in every game anyways, including plot roles, that satan would come back. Zayin was a cool dude. And we need an interpretation of him again.
>>121008997
filtering s j w to sjw was one of be better decisions made in years
Anyone knows the name of this character and what happened to her?
>>121009669
somebody did, and America is always synonymous with nuking in japanese culture
>>121015383
>Big plot important demon that pretty much never shows in later games
I want to make a team of the Reason bosses, dammit..
>>121015587
Well, if you count baal as baal avatar then you're close. Noah isn't really anything though, so it makes sense for him not to come back.
>>121010224
weebs have no place in the millennium kingdom
>>121015517
That's a girl? Always thought it was a guy.Turned into meat for the demons.
>>121015452
For some reason that filter doesn't work anymore. Sjw?
>>121015771
huh, it must have been for Halloween only
it was changed to spooky scary skeletons
>>121015863
Accurate.
>>121015383
I just want more Mastema
>>121015771
Eh, do they ever show it happening, at least? I remember that all of them get captured on the prison and then fred appears with her cap all bloodied when they're all released
>no walter/jonathan doujinshi ever
What's the point of pixiv then?
>>121016391
guess we'll have to live with the dozens of demi-fiend+dante/raidou ones
How do I check alignment in SMT4?
>>121016010
>it's been too long since I've killed unclean wretches
>prepare to die, sinners!
>...
>naw just fuckin with ya, what's good?
like or hate mastema, you gotta admit he's a funny guy
>>121018447
cynical man in the bars
>>121018447
Talk to a guy in the bar. He's not in every bar. But he tells you your personality.
>>121012704
You ever finish your Parvati sketch? the wp looked really good
>>121016731
I actually found some jonathan/flynn and walter/flynn but in general it's mostly either what you said or the weirdest crack pairing. I also found Tayama/Flynn(badly done) and that guy who sells weapons and armors/flynn.
>>121018859
>and that guy who sells weapons and armors/flynn
that sounds amazing
>Flynn takes out his dick
>"This is real, right?"
>>121018859
>that guy who sells weapons and armors/flynn.
>mfw imagining him saying "make sure you bring more macca next time" after fucking
>>121018961
"You had to come now, didn't you?"
>>121015517
Pretty sure that's a boy
The Passage of Ethics is really cool. I consider myself more of a Lawfag, but I'd choose the Chaos options if the situation arised IRL.
>>121021270
It's fucking dumb and biased to Chaos with the questions. Especially that "tall person" one, it's dumb.
>>121021715
It really is biased.
Also, no NPCs seem to say where Fujiwara is. Dangit game.
>>121021749
Fujiwara is in Shinjuku.
>>121021749
I mean where Florida is.
Found it though.
The "trick-ring" in DDS2, it says auto-sukukaja/tarunda in the start of the battle, is it only for the wearer or for the team? I assume that the tarunda is applied to your team?
>>121021984
Pretty sure it's for everyone. Tarunda is a debuff so it affects enemies.
>>121021984
There are no ma+kaja/kunda skills like Persona, so yes it's for the entire team.
>>121022048
yea, but it says "auto-sukukaja/tarunda", I've thing my physical attacks are hitting higher after I removed the ring so I assume that the tarunda is applied to your team
>>121022201
I think*
Hey senpai does the wordfilter still function? I think it was the best thing to happen to 4Chan in a long time desu. Made checking other boards much more pleasant.
>>121022462
sure does senpai
>>121022683
I honestly kinda hope it never stops desu.
>>120965246
Decided to give it another go just because of you. Suddenly it seemed easy and I even progressed with the plot. Guess I needed a push, so thanks. Maybe I'll finally finish it now.
I don't even remember this part of the second story.
>>121023119
big snake
>Yaso Magatsuhi
Art shifts are always so freaking spoopy.
>>121019091
Goddamn it
>The girl in the game is of course a symbol and a projection of the hero’s image of women as based on his closest female reference, his mother. Finding her in the real world outside the game is an allegory for the shift from affection towards the mother to love for same age girls.
MT is weird.
So, when I originally found this, the site didn't even load. I was worried, and pulled up an archive.
Today, I go to finish copying it over, and the site works fine again.
http://complete.electrolit.net/2010/09/24/megami-tensei-novel-turned-game-turned-novel/
It's... incredibly interesting. I know it's a wall of text, but if you haven't read it, you really should.
I put it on DDS Dork for posterity. The post there contains a link to this original one. Use whichever.
tl;dr ish
- brief summaries of the three novels + two MT games
- new material for alignment fag discussion
- the original creators thoughts, and his opinion of Law
>>121027775
Nice virus
>>121027775
assuming you're >>121023119 I read that after you posted that picture and it's pretty interesting
>>121028098
Yup.
>>121027997
Read it on Wordpress then, baby
https://ddsdork.wordpress.com/2015/11/02/megami-tensei-novel-turned-game-turned-novel/
>>121028128
>ddsdork
I'm not going to trust that shady site
>>121028172
look at this nigga, i bet he doesnt even download exe from strngers
>>121028214
SMT4 guy here.
All the way up toPlutonow. Getting raped hardcore because I'm still Agi-heavy and I can't find a good demon with Bufu.
Does Long fuse into anything good? I can summon him with Bufula.
>>121010224
They should have had Isabeau field a group of 24 demons and summon ones after they fell and abuse the fuck out of Luster Candy, Deliberate or Antichthon, Samarecarm, and weaknesses. Make it actually feel like you are fighting another summoner.
>>121032693
That would be great actually. Have her playing by the same rules as the player rather than having X press turns by virtue of being a boss.
>>121032324
Yes, it's also special fusion material for huang long.
fucking post something, fuck
>>121037224
It's 10 am how long are you going to sleep /smtg/
>>121037650
Forever. I don't want to face reality.
>>121037650
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3anK6yGG-E
>>121037814
Mene mene tekel upharsin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMSmi8ZOSno
Did any information surfaced about that character that looks like Flynn?
>>121039447
Who? Bird man?
>>121037224
I completed DeSu 2 last night, i kinda liked it but i prefer the first one's plot.
Record Breaker makes me worry about the inevitable Devil Survivor 3 after #FE bombs, it's clear that Atlus don't really give a fuck about maintaining the SMT tone in those spinoffs
>>121041278
the spinoffs have always been happier than mainline games, with the exception of Persona 2.
Like, in soul hackers the saddest thing to happen is killing spooky because he's possessed. DeSu 1 is about the closest a spinoff will get to mainline in terms of tone.
>>121041729
I don't even care about "happy" it's the waifu shit they can't control when they start.
>>121041278
But they are going to make Persona 5 IF, Persona 5 Tactics, and Shin Persona 5 to cover loses.
>>121041729
I can handle a happier tone, it's just the not-social links, the dick sucking and Yamato in general that's off-putting
It makes me feel like I'm playing something made by Idea Factory rather than Atlus
>>121041828
I couldn't tell who the hell Record Breaker was meant for. I mean, there's omnipandering, then there's clusterfuck like what Record Breaker does. Everything about it was a clusterfuck, from writing to pandering.
>>121042010
Why do people think Yamato is noteworthy when they shove 7 pairs of tits in your face the entire game?
>>121032324
That was pretty fast for someone who just beat minotaur yesterday
>>121042131
Because there is a difference between sexualization and romance.
No one ever claims that they feel emotional bonding to Tiamat or Scathach. Just tools.
>>121042131
RB put a lot of effort into writing him into the story and writing his relationship with the protagonist, compared to everybody else who is just "there".
I have a feeling it's a case of blaming a character for the others being worse so they can have something to point at.
>>121042953
sounds like something waifufags would do.
>>121043319
People like that do it often and are part of the DeSu audience, hence why I suspect it.
Nobody ever gets pissed off at Jun from P2 for being important, being heavily integrated into the story, and having romantic undertones with Tatsuya. P2 also has a very different audience.
>Still no official FINAL wallpapers
>>121043635
It's more the execution when it comes to Persona 2 and Devil Survivor 2
Jun was genuinely well written in a game with a lot of well written characters and the romantic undertones were just one aspect of his character.
Yamato is bland and comes across as a poor attempt at pandering, partially because of the romantic shit.
>>121043912
They're on the website though, I thought.
>>121044181
eh? I cant find them, but then again its all in jap so Im just stumbling around
>>121044142
Why single Yamato out for that when there's worse offenders in the game, then?
Despite those flaws he was still the best executed character in the game, and Io and Miyako were far worse in that regard.
It starts to look like jealousy the more I see people do it.
>>121044331
http://megaten4f.jp/devil_hunter/#reward
Click the green button by Jack Frost.
>>121044514
thanks, I have this weird thing for official wallpapers
>>121044367
I really just used him as an example of the approach to characters they took in DeSu 2 and especially in Record Breaker, not as the sole example of it.
Obviously there are other characters with the exact same shit that I didn't enjoy either, but the main focus was applied to Yamato. He was the best executed character in the game, but that's really not much of a standard to be held against.
For the record, I disliked virtually every character in the game, so there's not much for be to be jealous over.
>>121044142
>bland
like him or not, he was the only memorable character in DeSu2. it's even evident by how much you people can't shut up about him.
>>121044879
Yeah, I wouldn't use "bland" to describe him either given how he seems to have engraved himself so hard into people's minds.
>>121045194
complaints about him seem to always boil down to
>he's gay
because there's nothing else to complain about. he's a decent & clearly memorable character that worked well around whatever it was DeSu2's story was trying to do.
>>121022462
Only sjw went back to normal, the rest are a-ok desu.
It's fun to see newfags getting angry at it, and crying about muh freedumb.DeSu sucks.
It's kind of gross how much the girls are objectified in DeSu2. Like, this is official art. what the hell
>>121047956
That's anime art.
>>121047754
DeSu's great desu senpai baka kek kekold
>>121047956
Don't post bait just to bump the thread nigger
>>121047956
also just after posting this i realized how fucked it is anatomically
airi why are your thighs so goddamn chunky. why are your tits pointing upwads. why does it look like your back is broken
>>121048130
>thighs so goddamn chunky
Thick thighs save lives senpai
>why are your tits pointing upwads.
Because Yasuda balloon titties.
>why does it look like your back is broken
Do you even lordosis?
>>121048130
I what-the-fucked at her face personally
>>121047956
If it sells, they'll keep doing it.
This is my opinio, but It seems like the only franchises that don't suffer this kind of treatment are the ones where Kaneko is involved.
>>121049117
>replying unironically to bait
>>121022921
That's great anon!
I always considered that SH is the easiest RPG to pick up after a hiatus because of the diggests and how Nemissa reminds you of where you need to go most of the time.
Just remember to always have demons of your same level if possible; and also have at least 4 demons in your GUMP at all times, because you never know when you'll need a full team to fight something.
>>121049221
nothing wrong with a bit of serious smt discussion
>>121051000
>serious discussion
baka my demonic senpai-illiar
>>121052415
wat
>>121052819
keep up with current events you kekold
>>121047956
>objectified
>>121018447
Doesn't the spinning player icon also indicate it? I know it does it in the Raidou games.
> Get Dekunda and Dekaja as soon as possible, obtained by doing the buff and Expel Mantra route respectively.
> Make sure to get Mutual Karma as soon as possible.
Does this mean I should have all characters go through the Expel/Buff routes or just Serph? Same with the Mutual Karma?
>Magic/Luck Noise is easier to obtain than Strength/Agility Noise.
Does this mean I should focus on Str/Agi for Serph?
>>121056807
only happens after the alignment lock and at that point it's kinda pointless
damn we dead as our friends today
SMT4 guy here.
I got through the Law world last night and started on the Chaos world.
The Law world was really interesting. I love games with heavy religious themes like that, and it was one of the most interesting depections of a Post-Rapture world I've seen.Not like I believe in the Rapture anyway.
Kinda disappointed there's no YHVH though.
>>121042270
Minotaur was a few days ago.
>>121018961
>>121019091
>>121019157
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=36148156
You thought I was joking?
>>121062259
>Kinda disappointed there's no YHVH though.
FINAL
Also glad you enjoyed it.
Anyone got a cool SJ phone wallpaper I can use?
>>121058292
Serph should be your main damage dealer, leave buffs & debuffs to Gale.
>>121047956
>It's kind of gross how much the girls are objectified
I like responding to my own bait until someone notices and takes it.
>>121062426
delete this
>>121063109
dunno much about phone papes but this pic is vertical enough you should be able to use it, if not with some modifications
>>121062426
I wish I knew moon better because I bet whatever he's saying is hilarious.
>>121064089
>SJ
>posts SH
Who has the funniest death video in DeSu2?
>>121064403
Io.
>>121064395
d'oh
try this
>>121064403
>falls down stairs
makes me laugh every time
>>121064403
>>121064403
Not a death video but I enjoy it when Ronaldo dies.
>>121048231
>thick thighs save lives
They're not even well draw thick though. They're pretty thin right below her butt, then they balloon out to a ridiculous width. They look bloated and weird.
>>121064850
>Beat up Ronaldo
>Yeah, you guys are amazing... You're all cool people.BRB KILLING MYSELF
>Beat up Yamato
>Something something It would have been different if you were with me something somethingBanzaaaaaai
Which SMT games have the protagonist/party use realistic weaponry? For example in Persona 5 the protagonist is a criminal that uses knives/guns which is appropriate. However in P3/P4 the protagonists uses a Sword Shord/Sword which is quite frankly stupid because two regular high school schoolers would not be able to use swords as effectively as they do in the games plus their pretty much impossible to obtain in Japan.
>>121066309
doesn't yamato sacrifice himself to save someone?
man ronaldo was so shit in comparison, which you would think would've been hard.
>>121066738
Pretty much all of them
>>121066738
Persona 1 uses mostly knives and guns
>>121066738
pretty much every SMT other than persona and nocturne
>>121066738
>their pretty much impossible to obtain in Japan.
Just like how guns are pretty much impossible to obtain in Japan.
>>121066772
I don't remember. I was going through on the Al Saiduq Route, and I thinkYamato attempts to keep fighting, gets mortally wounded, tells Bunny to follow his own path and be strong or something, then jumps off of a cliff and blows up mid-air.
>>121067193
oh, yeah I think it was on ronaldos route that he saves someone
>>121066738
Didnt Hashino ro Soejima said that they dont use real guns?
Anyways every SMT but Persona 2&3&4 and Nocturne has characters using real guns.
>>121067024
Difference is the P5 crew obviously don't give a shit about breaking the law.
>>121066772
Yamato dies saving the MC in Ronaldo's route, and does >>121067193 in Alcor's.
Yo, is the DLC for SMT4 worth the money?
I'm def getting Clipped Wings and the Masakado one but what else is there to get?
So I'm almost done with SMT 4, and I've been wondering about the next game to play. I also finished Devil Survivor while I was partway through 4, and ended up finishing DeSu 2 as well.
What's the better place to move next? Strange Journey, Soul Hackers, or Nocturne?
>>121068057
Those are the main ones. You can get Ancient of Days and Sanat if you want to, the rest aren't really worth it.
>>121068059
Nocturne, where the series hit it's peak.
I think 4 is great but Nocturne was entirely better imo.
>>121068059
Nocturne is really good. So is SJ, but Nocturne is a fuller package. Should probably save SH for after both of them.
Is kaneko real or is it just a myth
Speaking of strange journey, I've wanted to play it recently. Should I emulate it, or get an actual copy?
>>121068059
Play Nocturne
100% that compendium
Get all magatama and all titles
Get the 2nd press turn
win
>>121068842
look for a copy if you can, some regions have trouble finding it but I actually got a used copy (with the box and CD too holy shit my luck) for 15 bucks
but emulation is fine as long as you arent savescumming and ruining the experience
Does anyone know how well IV sold in Europe? Do we even have a chance to get IV-Final?
>>121069278
I got mine for 11 at gamestop
I was so happy when I got it
>>121070754
>Dragon Quest
Excellent taste.
The White were right.
>>121071884
is that a world of strength
>>121071017
>Dragon Quest IX
>>121066292
>then they balloon out to a ridiculous width
like a normal female body
>>121074475
Usually that's a lot smoother and sleeker. In that illustration there's a visible indentation where her thighs go from slender to wide. It ain't right.
>>121074941
Maybe she squats
Don't tell me you don't like girls who squat, anon
>>121075060
if she does squats she must have poor form because those muscles look misshapen
>>121073460
怠惰界B3F from if...
Really looking forward to your reactions if.... the translation ever comes out.This dungeon is complete bullshit.
>>121075907
I know If... has a lot of routes, is that from the best ending or something?
>>121075768
thick glutes and hamstrings
you better drop this conversation now anon, I'm getting pretty heated over here
>>121076017
I doubt that you can avoid it with a different route.
Don't know for sure though, just started playing recently, walking around with Charlie. That fucking asshole ruins every flirt with qts, we'll both die virgins at this rateagain
>>121064625
Thanks Anon
>>121062565
>waiting room at urgent care
>Its not even an urgent injury
>realize I forgot my 3DS
>I can't even play through chaos world while I wait
>>121077674
Aw, what's wrong with you
>>121070754
yo what club nintendo case is that? I got the boo one myself. pic in a bit to bump
>>121010493
>also YHVH could have used any country to nuke tokyo because every country worth their territory has nuclear weapons.
Well, at least for SMTIV it's suggested that the entire world was nuked to dust in Blasted Tokyo. The original SMTI likely had a similar scenario, considering how Tokyo Millenium in SMTII is described one of humanity's few safe houses, which only makes sense if most of the world was in ruins too.
Guys, the Smazh Ballot results were posted.
>>121081482
Which is off-topic you pathetic retard.
>>121081482
Jack Frost would be a better addition than most of the shit being suggested, would be a good 2nd Sega rep as well. Oh well.
Why are the Smashfags actually worse than the Jojofags here?
>>121081256
Yep, in II the Millennium is surrounded by nuclear wasteland. I think it's the largest city on earth.
>>121082931
because they give us bad shoops instead of good art
>>121083390
This image is a Kill la Kill parody though.
>>121085041
whoops, thought I had a jojo one somewhere, never watched either of these so whateves
>>121086038
Bomb status was cool, they need to introduce more neat ailments.
>>121085394
What is this a reference to?
>Reach the point whereGin'sdeath clock is supposed to hit zero
>Waste time talking to people
>Save and come back to the game later
>Notice that he isn't on the map
There's a NG+ feature just in case I mess up, r-right?
>>121089197
Yes
I want to like these games so much, and I do, but I always quit mid-game because it gives so little direction that it's hard to continue without a guide, and using a guide feels cheap and is still complicated to figure out what it means and where it's telling me to go.
How do I git gud? I bought SMT IV and really want to at least beat it once.
>>121089769
Talk to NPCs.
>>121089769
Read the quest log. SMT IV is the hardest to get lost in.
>>121089769
They're JRPGs; they'll funnel you into the next plot point whether you like it or not. Whenever you're lost just think of the last arbitrary geological obstacle or random NPC standing in your way telling you to piss off, or wander around until you discover them for the first time.
>>121066738
I think some of the characters in Persona 1 have excuses like the MKR girls did.
>>121067339
P2 has Maya and Katsuya tho
>>121092701
Well i mean more as in general, all human party members in SMT 1&2&SJ&IV use guns while in say IS only Maya and Eikichi.
>>121089769
go play persona 4
>>121092836
>Eikichi
i cant believe i fucking forgot
>>121093287
>Forgetting the great Michelle.
Hidoio anon.
>>121093553
In smt iv how do you unlocking the tournament quests?
>>121089197
yeah, just whatever you do don't do yuzu's route because it sucks
>>121094434
Just do a lot of other quests and they'll unlock
>>121080164
Work-related back pain.
I feel like Walters "betrayal" seemed a but... not forced, but there wasn't much buildup. I forgot he was a Casualary and that he didn't like Johnathan for it.
I feel like there should've been at least a bit more tension between him and Johnathan or something.
I'm playing DDS1, and why is Sera so attached to Serph? He didn't even do anything for her.
>>121097929
You'll find out in DDS2. Oh, you'll find out about a lot of things.
>>121097929
except he did in thebackstory
play the game
>>121097991
Neat. I was worried because everything about the game has been so perfect so far.
>Devil Survivor 2 New Game Plus
>Removed the Limiter cap, got both of the exp bonuses, got Mitamas or something else
>Didn't bring any demons with me
>Fucking Sage of Time on day 2
>>121099174
ATLUS supports trannies though.
>>121099174
Every fucking thread you post a variation. Why?
Do you think Nolan played Nocturne /smtg/?
>>121099293
why so?
>>121067447
it's still not easy to get them
even the fuckin Yakuza don't carry them so if they get caught its a lighter sentence or some shit
>>121099395
He's probably just bored. Ignore him.
>>121099293
Atlus haet trannsy
>>121099174
because it's based on the mothers of Earth, which is referencing "Mother Earth" killing god and opening the Schwarzwelt.
>>121099397
Definitely.
>>121099174
Is that you Noncon?
>>121099481
Asura is the best tranny.
>>121099293
>>121099643
>>121100345
trannies > women desu
>>121100549
gayest shit i ever heard kekold
>>121100935
trannies are not 2d little boys sorry to break it to you
>>121011592
The only people in Mikado that weren't killed for reading we're the monks, and the angels needed them to transfer the information they had into PCs. There is literally a side quest where you kill the baker for reading books. Navarre is being hunted because he is a luxuror, which just so happens to be the class that knows how to read. Take your shit tier bait elsewhere, dumbass. Law is all about no one except god or angels knowing anything or making decisions.
>>121101289
Speaking of Navarre
>Navarre killed himself in SMTIVFbecause he left his favorite book at home
Watch as this is the case. He lost his position as luxuror, any money he would've had, his parents, his pride (from being a bitchass poor excuse of a samurai) and he can't even kick back and read Tales of Chivalry or Harry Potter and the Magical Bullshit.
>>121102170
>Navarre committed suicide
stop this meme, it was confirmed in the stream that he was killed
>>121102636
>lawfags killed navarre
Damn, does their bloodlust know no bounds
>>121105130
such a lust
>>121105595Who?
>>121106235
You remind me of the babe.
>>121106836
What babe?
>>121107281
The babe with the power.
>>121107328
What power?
Perfect christian wife, prove me wrong.
>>121107404
The power of voodoo.
>>121107730
Who do?
>>121107873
You do.
>>121107873
You do.
>>121107942
Do what?g'night /smtg/
>>121108049
Remind me of that hottie, Nemissa.
>>121108242
Only one S in Nemisa
>>121067339
I seem to recall the term used was something akin to '(modified) air weapons/cap guns'. The terminology in Japanese is a bit ambiguous as to what specifically, but the most generic word is just モデルガン, literally 'Model Gun'.
>>121111287
I'm guessing they aren't real guns and only physically manifest or get demon-killing powers within the paintings or wherever they do their heists.
>>121110670
Don't talk to me that way MISSy
>>121111394
It's impossible to say until the game comes out, but I'd put my money on something like "they're modified to shoot special ammo that will work on these entities of the collective unconscious".
Fuck, this is good shit
so when we getting a majin tensei translation?
in DDS, when should I use mudo and when to use stone gaze? since they're technically both death based
>>121112515
Honestly never for either, unless you're fighting an enemy weak to it.
>>121112515
I never used death spells.
I think you can find a multi-use item that imitates mamudo/mamudoon. Murder rock, or something.
I got some use out of it in the Sun.
>>121112069
20XX
>>121112069
http://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=majinten
>last progress 2009
Never ever
>>121113187
>40%
>>121107475
I like my wife to be alive
>>121113187
why does gideon always claim a dozen projects and then never touch them?
It just stops other people from translating them
>>121114967
So that we suck his cock.
>>121114967
I hope someone up and releases a translation or two of some of the projects he's "claimed".
>>121115369
That's what happened with KMT actually.
We could have had a complete If... translation done during the time since it was "almost completed"
>>121110670
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Nemissa
But you are wrong, anon.
>>121107475
"Perfect", "Christian", and "Wife" don't go together. The idea of a "perfect Christian" is almost an oxymoron, since Christianity teaches that the only people without sin were Jesus and in some cases His mother. Everyone else is sinful, and therefore obviously imperfect. The "perfect wife" might also be an impossible achievement, since motherhood is so deeply connected to the wife's role and ruins women's bodies and personalities forever (a woman can't easily transform from a mother changing diapers and cleaning up puke back into the living sexual fantasy she was on her honeymoon), but even the ideal of it, if such a thing exists, is incompatible with Christianity: the perfect wife ideal would have to be sexually capable, a woman who knows what her man likes and loves it just as much as he does, and too many Christian denominations are anti-sex in the case of women to the point of leaving women with lingering anxiety issues about sexuality far into marriage.
Another guy who just beat SMT4 for the first time in here, got the Law ending just following my instincts which is pretty rad considering I went with Walter and was Neutral for most of the game. It was a little anticlimactic because of how short the game is after the alignment lock they really could've built up Lucifer more, like I had any real idea he'd be in the game other than as a secret boss until after the goddamn White, but overall I was really pleasantly surprised.
I'm torn between going for Neutral next, or firing up another SMT, and I'm torn on what SMT I'd fire up, only other mainline I've beaten is SMT1.
Dropped Nocturne because of other circumstances combined with it becoming a bit of a slog on Hard difficulty, was after Daisoujou.
Dropped Strange Journey for similar reasons, but all the way back at Sector Bootes. I was REALLY pissed that you can't assign your own stats in SJ.
>>121116407
chill out beadman
>>121116407
>"wife" implies children
>bringing imperfect beings into the world
>>121116690
From a Law perspective, God told humanity to be fruitful and multiply. Since I was discussing contradictions inherent to marrying a Christian/Lawful girl, I'm counting it.
>>121116465
If you're beaten SMT 1, 2 or KMT would be good since they're just straight upgrades on 1's system
>>121117120
That's a thought, I've looked at SMT2 a few times and it's definitely on my list, not sure if I'm quite ready though. On the other hand arguments could be made for Nocturne or SJ attempts, since I just came off of press turns or LCN/no magnetite.
I'm really just dreading magnetite again, I got really lost early on in SMT1 and got a TON of magnetite by talking to this one particular demon repeatedly while trying to figure out where the hell to go, ended up not having to worry about having a full demon complement/best fusions for the rest of the game. I do not want to have to repeat that grinding deliberately if possible
>>121118430
Well lucky for you, SMT2 has even less ways to earn mag.
Good night /smtg/.
>>121119478
Sleep with pixels
>>121119562
*pixies
>>121120803
>tfw you'll never be able to fug pixie due to size differences
>>121120946
Jokes on you, my penis is small enough to fit in her.
>>121120946
It'd be like fucking a dollfie
I keep on getting lost in Infernal Tokyo. You think I would be able to find Shinjuku pretty easily now.
Granted, I haven't put much time into it today, but still.
>>121121534
Infernal Tokyo's a fucking pain, half the time I knew exactly where I needed to go, but I had no clue what path actually took me there
What would a /smtg/ meetup look like?
>>121121895
like a cosplay orgy at a con but with more autism
>>121121895
tons of sex
I'd finally get laid
>>121121895
>>121121895
>>121122082
I'd be able to meet all the cute femboys and kiss them all!
>>121122130
>>121121895
>>121121895
Maybe if the guys post pictures of themselves the girls of /smtg/ will come out and play too. Or we find out /smtg/ if full of ugly, fat neckbeards and they scare the girls away.
>>121121895
a gathering of people too nervous to talk to each other
>>121124065
boy or girl?
>>121124065
>>>/soc/
>>>/puberty/
>>121124065
>he actually did it
The madman.
Anyway, here's mine.
we're getting dangerously close to the group mastubation tier posting
>>121122893
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
>>121124275
How rude
Actually nvm, bad idea
>>121124065
>you'll never know if it was a boy or a girl
pic related is me irl
i tried to take a picture but its too dark
Post video games. What are you niggers doing in SMT?
I'm trying to fuse decent (and by decent I mean they have weaknesses covered up and some spam spells) Fiends for my compendium, as well as farming Famed accident fusions in IV. Fuck the RNG in this game, finding fiends and getting accidents is too much. I'd love some, I dunno, Cursed equipment that increases accidents and fiend encounters to absurdly high amounts or something.
>>121125198
I'm playing SJ for the first time. Pretty neat. It's a little rough at first, isn't it?
>>121125470
it only gets worse
>>121125545
I seem to be getting used to it. At the start I couldn't even go to floor 2 or I'd be torn apart.
>>121125198
I was playing PQ but then I missed IMAGINE and ended up playing FFXIV.
>>121125990
That'll happen pretty much every new floor or dungeon.
>what's in this place?
>die a million times
>learn how to stop dying
>go to new area, what you just learnt isn't necessarily the case here and then the cycle repeats
>>121126487
Sounds fun. I'm apparently at the boss of the first sector.
So SMT4:F was going to be a Maniax edition style update, but wasn't.
Let's assume the changes made in Final would've been applied to the original SMT4. What else would you have liked to be added/changed? I have a few ideas.
>Select toggles first person mode where applicable a la Nocturne. Also, they give a prompt so people know that you can hit select to view the sprites instead of the art when looking at demon statuses.
>Add "Unlucky Armor" set. Obtained via a repeatable Challenge Quest like the cosmetic armor ones. Each part of the set adds negative effects but increases fusion accident/fiend encounter likelihood.
>New camera. You can either hold L+R+B to control the camera, or if on N3DS, use the control nub.
>Traditional fusion is an option again.
>Also, Advanced Fusion Search which looks through skillsets of demons, possible skillsets, considers Element upgrade/downgrades etc to allow you to custom pick your demon skillset. Naturally it'd be expensive as hell with all the chain fusing.
>Mikado is no longer just a bunch of menus; you can at least run around the Samurai quarters (Aquila Plaza, the barracks, etc)
Do you guys actually feel happy about SMT4:F?
I don't feel hyped at all and character designs look horrible to me.
>>121128092
MC looks stupid, as if Flynn didn't look stupid enough
>>121128092
Indifferent, really. Might pick it up on sale in a few years but its not something I am waiting for.
>>121128143
I never liked Flynn too, but he looks so much better compared to MC. I want Kaneko back.
>>121127386
>Select toggles first person mode where applicable a la Nocturne
I like this.
>>121128315
>>121128092
Kaneko seems to have more influence in FINAL compared to 4.
>>121128506
What the point in his influence when MC looks like typical tumblr fakeboi?
Sorry if I sound rude, it's just I'm really sad about art.
>>121128708
I'm stating that based on the roles, and that the new MC is born from Tokyo, and is probably designed like that to contrast with Flynn and how he is dressed/groomed.
Scenario designer sounds more hands on than just Scenario draft, along with world setting planner.
>>121128809
I see. I will hope for the best.
>>121127386
Toss out every single demon design they made for SMT IV and have them redone by an artist who isn't a dribbling retard, or if possible find a way to use older designs, or updated versions that keep the appeal of those older designs if the older designs would clash with the work of hypothetical new non-retard artists, for the demons that had perfectly good designs before (like Lucifer, Lilith, the Heralds). Shouldn't be a problem, thanks to their decision to keep to 2D sprites in battle. It would be different for 3D models, but we probably wouldn't have had this problem if they'd even thought about what the designs they ended up with would look like in 3D.
>>121128092
If this had been announced in 2012 for a game released in 2013, just a few short years after Strange Journey and before Atlus hit its post-Index-bankruptcy decline, I would have been pretty indifferent. From the kind of viewpoint I would have had then, it's looking mediocre, and mediocrity would have been a betrayal. But things changed between 2012 and 2015. And with a 2015 announcement, after the originally-teased SMT x FE was canceled in favor of some unrelated idol trash with a hashtag in the name, and after Dancing All Night showed exactly how vapid Persona has become in the eyes of those making it, the announcement of IV Final might as well have given me a puppy that proved to be the reincarnation of my childhood dog for how happy I am that it's simply going to exist.
>SMTIVF is all neutral routes
>tfw there won't be a route where you team up with ascended humans (ie humans who became 'demons' like the Famed race and Masakados) and human-liking demons (like Prometheus who liked us so much that he gave us fire) to tell all the other gods to fuck off
GODS DROOL HUMANS RULE
EARTH IS FOR EARTHLINGS
ANGELS KEEP MOVING; THIS IS A HERALD-FREE ZONE
AROUND DEVILS, NEVER REVEL!
etc
>>121128092
I'm glad SMT still exists and is getting games. It's unlikely we'll see Kaneko come back to do designs since he's getting more and more hands off but if the new guys can get some experience and make some good games I'll live with it.
>>121128092
I still dislike the character designs, although Doi's demons are nice
I'm just happy that there's anything coming out on the SMT front
>>121129279
>>121129120
You are both right. I still hope that we will get new devil summoner though.
>>121128092
I thought this was York at first.
>>121129279
That reminds me, I still think I'd like to see a Shin Megami Tensei game that adds a significant transhuman element. Cybernetic upgrades to body and brain alike as stat-boosting, resistance-changing, spell-granting equipment, with possible effects on each alignment decision too depending on what alignment the equipment is.
For example, let's say you have an angel-derived artificial arm. You might have it because it lets you learn Violet Flash and Diarama. It comes with the alignment side effect that it'll make Law choices count for more and Chaos choices count for less. Once you master Violet Flash and Diarama from the angel arm, replace it with a purely matter-based artificial arm that's derived from animal biology and regular old cybernetics, and your choices will go back to normal, and it'll allow you to learn a different set of skills. Different pieces of equipment might affect alignment to different degrees, making it possible to balance or imbalance one's alignment smartly. To offset this and make alignment less of a "look a guide up online" thing, some easy way of telling alignment (and current alignment choice modifiers) can be added to the status screen: if the Demonica could tell its user whether they were Law, Neutral, or Chaos, this more advanced technology should be able to do at least as much.
For how this connects to your post at all, this plot element would have a profound impact on the tone of the hypothetical game's endings: if God exists because humans need some promise of salvation to cling to in times of trouble, and if Lucifer exists due to humans desiring freedom from the chains that bind them, brain implants and the Singularity offer the potential for a massive change to human nature that changes those desires enough to offer fascinating possibilities for multiple endings. One Neutral ending, then, may well be a complete rejection of any demon who isn't ex-human, part-human, or traditionally helpful to humanity.
HOLY FUCK KING KENJI IS HARD
>>121131428
don't listen to his lies
>>121130687
Have some more dumb dorama Kyouji. Who is York tho?
>>121131712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxSujfA-FLE
GABRIEL SURE SEEMS TRUSTWORTHY UH HUH SHES GONNA LEAD ME DOWN DA PATH OF LIGHT
>>121131952
Oh I totally forgot about him. I bought this game ages ago and never got to play through it. Thanks for reminding.
>>121132043
I would lead Gabriel down the path to my dick.
>>121132114
You probably already know it plays like shit. But that just adds to it's charm. I've only played (and beaten) the 360 version, though.
>>121132390
I'm surprisingly patient when it comes to bad ports and controls. The only game I've ever had problems with is Killer 7 on ps2.
>>121131952
>York was the imaginary friend
>not Zach
Well shit. Is that game any good?
>>121049638
>all this Soul Hackers talk
Funny, I just picked this back up yesterday after only scraping the surface a year ago (bought a DS and made the mistake of stocking up on too many games for me to play). Thank God for the digest.
Also hi. I'm new.
What do you think of him ?
>>121134168
He has nice hair.
>>121125198
Just woke up. I plan to play The Last of Us and finish Nocturne.
1~3 - SMT I
4~6 - Soul Hackers
7~9 - P2 Innocent Sin
0 - Try again tomorrow
NPC appreciation time.
Nyx in Nocturne is a stand up gal.
>you confused about what to do or why the world's an inside out sphere, hon? don't worry about it.
>feel free to come back any time
In a world full of dickass demons trying to kill you it must be nice to have a place where no-one wants to murder you and you can get a drink (probably. They don't have juice boxes or milk though, fuck that noise)
>>121124065
Is this a boy or a girl?
>people unironically avatarfaging
>>121137718
>People
>Not one person
>>121135773
Roll me.
>>120980450
>We'll never annoy people in the morning in the name of YHWH
>>120980450
>I have literally never played the games relevant to this thread
Why are you even here, frogtard?
>>121124670
same
>>121124065
Oh my god you're so cute. I can't believe /smtg/ has cuties like you in it. Shouldn't have deleted your post.
>>121142086
Metatron will be hearing about this
>>121136013
You fight Nyxes in the Tower.
>>121142674
But anon he doesn't even look old enough to be on 4chinz
>>121131428
Ancient Curse!
>>121142674
He looks like he's about to cry.
>>121142674
the face of a chaosfag
>>121145794
nah, that looks like johnathan irl
>>121142674
Rev up the V&
>>121134168
I like how he screams in the opening movie synced with the music.
>>121133840
Hi newfriend, remember to check out the booru to stock yourself with megaten art and other goodies.
>>121099397
http://porn.quiteajolt.com/2010/06/11/christopher-nolan-jrpgs/
>>121136013
I liked all the NPCs of Persona 3, and it was interesting to see how their little stories developed. The kids that have a crush for each other, and the taxi driver inmediately come to mind.
I also liked all the soldiers of DDS, since they are so full of emotions and pretty much all of them have something interesting to say.
>>121147224
>>121099397
Inception has an obvious jungian influence tooeven though the movie is trash
What are some good apocrypha books to read /smtg/?
I've read all the stuff in the catholic bible and want some more angels and demons shit
http://strawpoll.me/5910246
SMT x Bible Black
>>121148101
>No true demon option
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
>>121148215
>mfw even if this happened Anthony still wouldn't be able to find a demon who'd want to fuck him.
Does anyone have a picture of YHVH in Final? For some reason, I couldn't find one
>>121149094
>>121149172
Thanks
Am I the only one who thinks he looks like Donald Trump in Final_
>>121149289
Yes
>>121146990
Thanks friend, I will check it out.
...more thoroughly when I'm not at work.
>>121149509
dont get your hopes up, there is no good porn
>>121149562
Not even looking for any.
>>121147837
>Paradise Lost
I am not a big fan of it, but it deals with God, "Satan" and many other deities. It tells about the rise and fall of the Morning Star in more detail, and how he corrupted mankind as a way to have revenge on God. But it is lawfag as fuck, so read it with a grain of salt.
>The Key of Solomon
Also a recommended read, since pretty much all the demons mentioned in it appear in megaten games. Grimoires aren't very easy books to read though, so take your time with it.
>The Encyclopedia of Vampires, Werewolves, and other Monsters (NEW):http://www.mediafire.com/download/fe4t229gvn13si3/Encyclopedia+of+Vampires%2C+Werewolves%2C+and+other+Monsters.zip
This one comes straight outta /x/. For the most part it focuses in pop culture monsters like vampires, mummies, werewolves and such; but it also has entries for some of the folklore "monsters" that appear in megaten like: Mothman, Pisaca, Rakhasha, etc.
It is at least worth a gaze for the bibliography which recommends you further readings for you to check.
And this one is unrelated, but "Demian" by Herman Hesse deals with the three alignments in a magnificent way (at least IMO). And it is a very pleasant read all around.
I cannot guarantee you that the books will be a very good read, outside of Paradise Lost and Demian, but that is all I know that could help you.
>>121150774
>Paradise Lost
A classic of literature that should be read regardless.
>>121150774
>This one comes straight outta /x/.
>>121128092
I havent played SMT IV and i dont really feel like replaying the 3DS ports so once i get the system SMT IV and F will be on my playlist.
Not really hyped but still glad about Final being a thing.
Bump
>>121150774
Know any good books about pre-Biblical Jewish and Canaanite religion and myths?
>>121156692
Sorry anon, but I don't know any.
You should check out some of the Islam and hindu stuff too, since the jewish religion is heavily inspired by those. Hit /lit/ if you really want to know more about it; their lit memes may be dank, but they may be helpful.
Oh, and Journey to the West is a classic that I forgot to mention, it is interesting, and covers some chinese gods and obviously Sun Wukong.
Why are you so dead SMT general?
Did the /soc/-lite posting drove you away?Were the regular posters banned?
>>121161598
>Did the /soc/-lite posting drove you away?
No, they're just dumb faggots and I hate them
I still reside here, watching over /smtg/, expecting Friday-night streams of the OVAs for all eternity.
>>121161935
Fuck, now that I notice it, /vg/ seems to be pretty fast right now.The other general that I follow just died ;_;, and we are already at page 5-6.
But it is good to know that you are here, anon.
>>121162452
Like a flower, it blossoms again.
Bloom and fall, bloom and fall.
>>121162561
That made me chuckle.I cannot post too much right now, but let's keep fighting the good fight.
>>121163021
>I hear he's one of those autistic types.jpg
>>121161935
Where would one stream the OVAs?
>>121134168
his demon form was retarded looking but as a character he was alright
>>121163104
Not sure nowadays. Livestream is pretty dumpy right? And Twitch bans you for nogaems. We definitely need arevivalof streams though.
I'd like to get around to streaming Devil Summoner 1 gameplay sometime though.
>>121162452
>digital devil story on a SMT image
>black borders
this image blows
>>121163291
SMT 1 is Shin Digital Devil Story
>>121163214
>tfw can't stream any of the 3DS games due to no capture card
If I could get DDS1 and 2 back I wouldn't mind streaming those.
>>121163291
fuck off autist
>>121159809
>journey to the west
Do you recommend a particular translation?
>>121163390
>SMT 1 is Shin Digital Devil Story
Anonymous, post number: 121163390 is Shin Huge Fucking Retard
>>121163527
baka desu you nep fag, go boot up SMT1
>>121163709
What difference does me booting SMT up make? It's still not a Digital Devil Story game.
>>121164235
>not even posting SMT reaction images
nice try/10
>>121164235
I don't make the rules senpai
>>121161935
>Friday-night streams
I've been wanting to stream one of the PS2 games for a while. I could stream every Monday and Tuesday since those are my days off.I have the OVAs, too
>>121164819
>>121164858
just grasping at thin air now desu
>>121164235
>>121163527
You can read nip right?
>>121164819
>>121164858
Ignore him, he's genuinely autistic.
>>121165040
at least put the OVAs up in the pastebbim so other people can stream too
>>121131225
When?
>>121165126
I throw them into Google Drive/Dropbox later.
>>121163482
I can only recommend you the version of Editorial Siruela (which is pretty damn good) if you speak spanish; but I bet a quick google search can help you as well.
>>121165059
If it's really 真・Digital Devil Story, then why does it change to 真・女神転生? To show that it's a new story and not a continuation, of course.
>Ignore him, he's genuinely autistic.
That's irrelevant, you big meanie.
>>121165551
>真・Digital Devil Story, then why does it change to 真・女神転生?
SMT is just a spinoff of DDS
Since we're on the subject, where can I get an English-language translation of the original Digital Devil novel? Preferably in .mobi.
>>121165906
Just learn nip
>>121166227
teach me senpai
>>121165690
It's not a spinoff of DDS. It's a spinoff of Megami Tensei, which in turn is an adaption of Digital Devil Story. Megami Tensei 2 is the real continuation of Digital Devil Story, hence why it's in its title. The Megami Tensei game is the actual Shin Digital Devil Story.
>>121165906
http://www.amazon.co.jp/デジタル・デビル・ストーリー-女神転生-fukkan-com-西谷-史/dp/4835448847/
>>121166296
Dostedt - What
Nani - Why
Sugoi - Awesome
Kawaii - Cute
Ohaio Gozaimas - Thank you
>Waching Akagi
>50 year old Yakuza underling says "sugoi"
>Immediately imagine him as a moe girl
>>121165906
Get in here for a PDF version
https://ddsdork.wordpress.com/digital-devil-story-novels/
And here for an online version
http://menasepublications.blogspot.mx/2010/09/reincarnation-of-goddess.htmlRIP Megaupload
If you want it to be .mobi, you'll have to do it yourself.
>>121166507
>Dostedt - What
Every time.
>>121166613
What does it actually mean?
>>121166610
Thanks, mah digital devil nigga.
>>121167003
Dostedt is gibberish, doshite or doshita is likely what the person who first wrote that heard, and nani means what.
>>121167309
So, i'm playing Strange Journey, and i'm currently in Eridanus. Are there some areas/optional bosses i may have missed in the other sections?
>No Monster Rancher-like SMT spin-off that you can feed and train your demonfu
Why, life?
>>121170912
>no monster rancher
stop right there anon, I'm already tearing up
>>121007442
He's lucifer in disguise, nigga. I mean, just look at him.
Will we ever get Satan back?
>>121122893
But you guys won't stop saying that you hate fujoshits.
>>121128092
Will pick day one.
>>121166296
Oshinshi/Ochinpo=Penis/Cock
Omanko=Vagina
Cuchi=Mouth
Oshiri=Ass/Butthole
Kimoshi=Feels good
Kinoshiwarui=Feels bad
Warui=Terrible
Motto=More
Yukari=Slowly
Daijubo=Okay
Thats what i have learned from hentai games aniways.
>>121168520
Did you beat David at Bootes? He is very well hidden in one of the walls outside Mitra tower, you can go to Antlia and talk to an strike team member about slaying a demon (Said demon is where Gore died).
You can fight some foot demon by talking to an strike team member in the red sprite.
>>121172070
With YHVH properly back i an see Satan returning too, YHVH just has to program him to obey him rather than the Law.
>>121177392
>Daijubo=Okay
Shit nigger
>>121177392
I hope this is not a sneaky /a/ meme like >>121167890
>>121179071
>Going to /a/
I left /v/ because its a shithole, but even /v/ can have its good threads. /a/ is pure cancer.
>>121180921I barely go there, but I enjoy their japanese culture threads.
Although I don't talk too much about anime there, because they only watch seasonal shows, and shit on all the old things that aren't Eva. Which is funny considering how elitist they feel.
/smtg/, consider this post as a simple bump.
>>121184751
Overlord was good.
What is with all the avatarfaging today?
>>121186119
>One post with a picture
>Avatarfagging
What?
>>121186119
Just forget about it.
We're about to reach the post limit anyway.
>>121187456
Are you lying on purpose or do you just refuse to actually look at the thread but are stupid enough to assert it?
What's the difference between avatarfagging and using reaction images?
>>121190654
Which has already stopped if you bother to look at the posting times.
But here you are, bringing back that topic.
>>121191481
When you use images of only one character (sometimes pretending to be that character) it becomes avatarfagging. You want people to recognize you just through the use of your image.
Why is fusion so retarded in SMT 4? Can I get the good old way where I just select a demon, then another, then I can check for myself the options?
>>121193272
No because thats not casual.
>>121193384
btw, can I get away with leveling only dex/mag in SMT 4? Since it will mean I can deal phys/gun damage too
>>121193949
just go full mag phys builds are trash
>>121194682
>phys builds are trash
Said no one ever. Physical builds are OP as fuck by end game.
Just about to start on Nocturne. Only other SMT I've played is IV. I just finished Persona 4 on Expert (PS2 version) and found the difficulty to be pretty much perfect to my tastes. Should I choose Normal or Hard on Nocturne?
>>121194849
Theres just no advantage going phys over mag. mag is objectively better in SMT4 thats why they are buffing phys builds in final
>>121194903
Nocturne's Normal is typical RPG's "Hard".
Nocturne's Hard is "balls on the wall Hard".
>>121194903
Play on hard like a man.
>>121195160
Well Expert on P4 felt like what I wanted Normal to be, so is Nocturne Normal on par with P4 Expert?
>>121195017
>Theres just no advantage going phys over mag
Dex/Lck build lets you critical like crazy. With mag you have to recsort to almighty + concentrate to do damage and even then you won't get any extra turns unlike with a physical build.
>>121195282
Yes, but try Hard anyway. What can possibly go wrong?
>>121195017
>Theres just no advantage going phys over mag
Crits for days. Dex abuses press turns better than Mag does via crits and elemental bullets.
>>121195318
>>121195017
While we're having this discussion I wanted to seek some input on how any of them there damage builds work: I finished my first play yesterday as Luck first Agility second, had a boatload of fun being a Hama/Mudo and buff/-karn abusing faggot.
I honestly don't see how the Dex/Luck build would work, wouldn't you need Agility too to ensure you don't miss? And if so wouldn't that compromise either your Dex, Luck, or both?
And I am highly susceptible to the 'no extra turns' argument, and hate shit like Concentrate, so the idea of a Mag build is equally perplexing to me.
In nocturne I just finished beating all the fiends. Should I finish the labyrinth of amala before the diet building or should I save the labyrinth for right before the final dungeon?
>>121196870
Yeah, if you want a physical build, you will have to focus on Dex first, then Agility and luck on third.
I really don't see Dex/Luck as a viable build since you won't be hitting that often.
>>121197253
Diest is the last dungeon before the reason lock, complete it and then finish the Labirinth.
>>121195275
But hard in Nocturne is just RNG and grinding: the game.
>>121197675
But you get that experience on normal as well.Or you know, just be skilled enough to not have to rely on RNG.
>>121193384
I'd really struggle to understand how IV's system isn't an improvement over the alternatives of either spending 15 minutes manually checking through n2 combinations of demons or staring at ASCII spreadsheets of demon combinations off gamefaqs to guess at what demons you'll get based on level and type.
>>121193272
This is built into the search functionality; it has options for doing exactly what you described.
>>121197965
Do you REALLY? The fact that you can be grinding encounters in an area with no major trouble, then suddenly you get ambushed and die before you get a turn thanks to crits isn't indicative of an RNG-driven experience? What player skill was involved in ensuring I did not get ambushed, especially in the early-mid parts of the game?
>>121197496
How does a Magic build usually play, for comparison?
And of course the burning question: can one not attempt a Strength build, as foolish as it may be? There are some pretty sick swords and spears in the game, I'd imagine the skills layout would be more buff centric like the Luck build.
>>121199241
>How does a Magic build usually play, for comparison?
Excellent. You will be spamming nukes during the tough battles, and abusing weaknesses for days.
MA>AG is a lot more viable than a pure DE>LU build.
As for the second question; you will be be breezing through random encounters, but you won't be able to do shit during boss fights.
I'd say that STR is viable if you are doing a magic run, so that you don't run out of SP. (MA>AG>LUCK=STR>DEX)4chan posting is fucked again...
>>121191645
>get btfo
>buh buh wah
Yes, asking why something keeps happening today is the real problem. Good job.
>>121201309
Which is part of the problem: I know it was a long time before Flynn had enough MP for me to be comfortable slinging out spells for fun, I found myself appreciating the inadvertent gun-centricness of my build.
Even with a LU>AG build I had things to do during the boss fight, often too many things. And the crits alone with Ace Bazooka made it worth attacking. I feel like a STR>AG=LU build might play similarly, just with more emphasis on doing real damage instead of crits for crits sake.
>>121201937
I wouldn't say that getting btfo only involves getting insulted on the internet, and pretending that the other guy speaks like a baby.
But ok, if this keeps you away from having to take your pills tonight, then I'll admit that I was wrong and you are the hero that this general needs.End of the conversation :^)
>>121202906
Yes, but DEX simply does more damage than STR.
Honestly, I did the MAG>AG>LUCK=STR>DEX run that I recommended you, and I did just fine. But in the end I felt that the guns were more useful than the swords, and I decided to put some points into Luck just for the sake of using the insta-death gun.
But do whatever you want. You already know what you are doing, and SMT IV doesn't require you to min-max in order to win.
Have fun, anon
What APPs have priority to get first in SMT 4?
>>121203990
pretty much all of them are usefull, personally I alwways go for the scout bonus ones so your pockets and party are always full
>>121203990
MP Recovery breaks the game.
>Pop a Megidolaon
>Back to full by the time I get into another fight
>>121204302
I don't know anon, sometimes the encounters can be a bitch. Even if you git gud at dodging, the world map can still fuck you.
Is someone making the new bread?
>>121203705
>"But do whatever you want. You already know what you are doing, and SMT IV doesn't require you to min-max in order to win."
>Still uncertain, my 3DS has been asleep with my first level up
>On balance go with Ag and Lu for the first level since all builds need some
>Demons fall over themselves to join me and are giving me money and Revival Beads and shit
>>121206216
If not, then I'm claiming it. So that we don't do 2 threads by accident.
Alright guys, get in this brand new bread that I just made.
>>121207183
>>121207183
>>121207183
How likely is it that Soul Hackers is going to go on sale again soon? Money is kind of tight right now but I'm almost done Overclocked and it's tempting.