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>top of team in BMP-1 yet again
>>120860924
I kinda know that feel
TOO BAD IT'S ALWAYS A FUCKING DEFEAT
>>120862184
Meant this
>>120862184
>groups chat tab
What.
>>120860924
>be top of the team
>as a gvosdika
this is how you lose
>>120862472
Friendslist>Group>Doubleclick on the battalion chatroom when you close it
It opens it in a groups tab
This might be the origin of the super high damage rolls.
>>120862578
Is there a point in doing that?
>Tied exp gold star goes to player with higher alphabetical name.
fug
>>120863293
click the icons tard
If you played the XM1 pre-nerf, you're a faggot
If you play the T-90, you're a faggot
got it?
>>120863194
Well, if you accidentally close the battalion chat, you can reopen it that way.
If there is another way I'm too stupid to find it.
>>120863145
yeah now if only they told which fucking parts were weakpoints for each tank
abrams/leo seem to take it from hitting the engine directly from behind, bagelpanzer takes it from driver's periscope etc.
>Decide to check out some AW streamers
>/awg/ recommended Zeven
>Check his stream today
>He only plays PvE
Why the fuck would I want to watch someone play a mode for schmucks?
PvP stream or bust.
>>120865112
He only plays pvp when he can platoon with 2 other players, didn't you check his clan tag?
That guy sucks and the guy who recommended him is a shill from his clan trying to suck up to him however he can.
>>120865257
I really wish QuickyBaby would play Armored Warfare but I guess Wargaming have their fist too far up his ass for him to play anything else.
>>120865257
I can't really blame him. High tier pvp kinda blows at the moment
>>120865534
Wargaming assigned Peppy to Quickly in order to ensure his loyalty. Should he waver and play AW, she will kill him.
>BMP-2 gun uses the low RPM setting
I want more dakka
When are we gonna get a middle-eas dealer?
>t8 battle
>some t6/7's thrown in
>all our lower tier tanks runs in instead of going hulldown
>the enemy team systematically advances, focus firing our lowtiers first before chewing up the rest who were busy going Tora!Tora!
every time baka desu
>>120865879
Nobody likes Leclerc!
I just want people to attack.
Is that so much to ask my team to do? Actually come out from behind their rock and shoot shit?
For fucks sake guys.
>>120866414
>Tier 3 AFV by dealer Muhammed
God damn the playerbase for this game is dropdead retarded holy shit. I thought WoT had shit players but this is even. I've been in far too many games where half of my entire team dies without even dealing any damage, leaving the entire enemy team to converge on whats left of us.
>>120867324
Being f2p and having pve will do that to a game. It is a massive invite to morons.
>>120867324
desu you can actually blame WoT for that
MBTs are for straight up bumrushing as a group while the other vehicles support in one way or another.
The peekaboo shit is stupid as hell and there's very few maps that actually support WoT's peekaboo style of play... and those maps are the ones that suck the most.
Object 155 is so much fun to sealclub with
Sure, it may just be a T-62 but it gets a buttload of credits & xp on top of that
>>120867537
>desu
I mentioned only the other day how Moot used to wordfilter buzzwords.
Cute helicopter, dude!
>>120866919
I'd fuck Leclerc. Literally.
>>120867828
At least Hiroshima managed to turn one of the most annoying/retarded forms of shitposting into something readable.
>>120869040
now we can only hope it lasts longer than just for halloween.
>>120869134
I rather hope he traces all of the wiggers/actual niggers and put them into forced labor. Either cotton or rice fields would be fine.
>>120869318
>family
Famalam or famo
why is the bagelpanzer so good
Did they increase xp and credit gains?
>>120870354
It's part of the event.
This thing owns
>>120872217
>that base xp on the entire team
what
42nd for quality math
>Driving LAV-300
>Reveal myself to take a potshot from across the map at a T-64
>SPOTTED
>DESIGNATED TARGET
>TWO ARTILLERY SHELLS LAND NEAR ME
>SEVERAL ATGMS WHIZZ PAST
>GET HIT BY TWO CANNON SHOTS
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.
Was the entire enemy team watching the spot where I happened to be, waiting for someone to show up? Cunting fuck.
>>120865112
I-i c-could streamers if you want me too, s-senpai -blush-
Reminder that PVE is incredibly hard and takes a lot of talent, skill and hard work.
>>120865534
I seriously cant understand how anyone can watch rapid toddler without wanting to commit suicide.
That guys is fucking autistic, and the only reason to ever watch any of his videos is his qt slav slave girl.
>>120873976
>PvE grind
i think that shit rots your brain. after hardcore grinding i always play like ass in pvp.
>>120874562
That's because PvE enemies love to expose themselves. It makes you completely forget about the concept of "patience".
>>120874790
it's also because you're tripping over each other in pve to deal as much damage as possible. i guess it actually rewards having no patience.
>>120875808
Unless you're driving something with no armor.
>60% on my way to the T-80
It's gonna be alright...
It's all gonna be over soon...[muffled sounds of traumatized crying]
Grind all the way to PzH2000 or just buy a M109 to satisfy my arty needs?
Who /ghostshell/ here?
>>120874562
>after hardcore grinding i always play like ass in pvp
Are you sure that's because of playing PvE and it doesn't just come naturally?
>>120879073
I hear you
>>120879073
>>120879938
It's already out? I thought it was stated to come out on the event's last day.
>>120877893
yeah the PzH2000 is shit anyway
>>120880325
It's by time zone.
>>120880325
>murrican in charge of knowing how the world works
>>120880579
>>120881765
Uninstall.
Why do I so often do "critical track damage" with missiles?
It seems to be an extra damage hit, but why would it happen on the tracks?
It isn't tracking the opponent, as that's the red icon.
Is it hitting the track and splashing a weakpoint?
>>120881765
Paladin master race
I take it the new gup is not /vg/?
>>120879073
>>120879938
so wait can anyone get it now? or is it just people in the right time zones?
>>120884812
Only EU right now.
I want Freja but I fucking hate playing skycancer.
What do?
>>120885403
lots of freexp
>>120885403
Don't play skycancer, free XP it.
>>120884683
>GuP
>ever being /vg/
>ever being clopper-free
>>120885403
>skycancer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>/wotlabstrash/
>>120885403
Is Juan Carlos Miramon any good, or is he just shit?
The Gvosdika is hellish to use.
>>120885878
He's the only commander worth a shit on MBTs.
>>120886009
>W/L has dropped from 57% to 53% playing the Gvosdika and Starship
Jesus fucking Christ he better be worth it.
>>120885630
ass blasted ntr fags
>>120884683
>>120885630
This GUP isn't even run by the same guys from WoT. They are all in some other clans.
The missile systems on the vbl and wiesel are practical jokes by the developers, right? Surely no one thought these were supposed to be viable.
>>120888326
Oh if only I had a means of getting gold as easily as NTRfags.
>>120888505
>This GUP isn't even run by the same guys from WoT
You can't prove that as there's no way to see who's in a clan that I'm aware of. And all of the GuP clans haven't been /vg/ based for a long time.
>>120889757
they're "ok", which is to say they aren't worth much on their own compared to an autocannon.
imho fox should be the top tier AFV just because it can use both, not to mention its 30mm cannon is technically the exact same one mounted on the tier 8 warrior
>>120890058
The vbl missiles are kinda okignoring the fact the fact do less damage in 4 missiles than the fox does in 2, but no one could possibly think there wiesel's single shitty missile is anything other than a joke, especially when half it's targets have anti-missile systems.
But yeah, should go vbl -> wiesel -> fox
wish I could specify how much gold I really want to buy in this game like that other other game
>30mm grenade launchers are treated as SABOT firing autocannons in this game
Stop that, AW
God damn challenger I is shit. It's somehow slower than the Chieftain with an even worse gun, especially for the tier. That and it has just as many glaring weakpoints as the chief.
>>120891813
its actually okay. it plays exactly like the chieftan and its top engine is better. turret traverse is a lot better too.
that being said, its still probably the least competitive tier 7 MBT for raw damage. doesn't mean its a bad tank itself though
now the ariete on the other hand is a mediocre tank and their positions should be switched, with ammo upgrades to match
Are the Leos any good?
>>120891813
>best armor at t7
>has a tiny weakspot on the hull and the turret window is still kinda hard to hit if it's moving
>waaaaaaaaah! it's not invincible
When?
>>120893120
Never
HEP is only really useful on the LAV-300 if you are SUPER out-tiered, right?
Also, why the fuck is MM doing goofy shit like putting one Tier 5 on the enemy team while our team goes down to tier 3?
>>120891770
Example?
>>120895821
the entire BMD line with the 100mm cannon, its secondary 30mm is a grenade launcher
>>120891770
>>120895821
>>120895964
YOU FUCKING IDIOT
It has a hull mounted AGS-30, moron.
>>120894871
LAV300 is useless in any situation so don't worry and just grind till ERC
>>120898470
Oh well, I guess I'll just take the hit to my W/L and damage ratios.
>>120898553
It's possible to offcarry if you stay at the view range border using AP and go full-LT when shit's coming down
I just can't figure these maps out.
I can usually beat someone head to head, but am always taking shots from random places and never getting easy shots.
>>120899868
map design is mostly shit tierand good tier in pve for whatever fucking reason
>>120899868
http://aw-guide.com/guides/maps/cold-strike/
>>120900034
sooner or late they'll add them to pvp map rotation
>>120900116
That guide is awful, how much are you getting paid to plug this website?
>>120900251
I just want you to hate me
I like it
>>120900116
they should've done that way back in CBT because pve maps are suitable for pvp\pve, and pvp maps are suitable for a trash can
roughneck is the WORST, like absolute worst and best example of this - pve version has a good "industrial zone" with a lot of cover and actual vision, while pvp version has a clusterfuck of buggy shit that you can SPOT through, but can't SEE through because it's fucking clutter, that you can SHOOT through (50\50), and that has literally 0 fucking cover
also did I mention invisible fucking walls just chilling in the air? ever tried standing at 7-9 lanes on the south team and trying to shoot at someone just a bit to left or right of the smoke pipes? how the fuck did this get playtested? I hope the person who designed pvp roughneck gets asscancer
this map makes me so fucking mad holy shit new WoT maps past 0.8 weren't as shit as roughneck
>>120900034
>>120900116
Something is wrong.
I thought I'd make a lot of progress during the event since I was doing well, nut now I am losing so often it's genuinely faster to grind with PvE.
does the t-72A get ERA?
if so, why doesn't the t-80 get ERA?
>>120901543
>does the t-72A get ERA?
yes
>if so, why doesn't the t-80 get ERA?
because reasons. it doesn't get smoke grenades either. despite that the t-80 is the second best tier 7 in the game.
>>120901936
What's the first?
>>120901998
abrams
>>120901936
would it make it OP if it had ERA?
>>120901998
bmd-4
>>120902171
probably not.
>>120889936
Anyone else like bridge maps?
>Game crash
>restart
>changed all of my settings to default
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
>playing a swingfire on a map where long lines of sights dont really exist
>>120908289
Try arty on Lost Island. Theres 2 spots where you have a good view of the entire map, but they're used so often that if you go there the enemy arty is going to be fully aimed in at that spot ready to counter-battery as soon as you fire.
Mornin'
>>120908289
>niggerfire seeking sympathy
How come some people absolutely love playing the Swingfire while others hate it? I'm at 60% and it's not really that good desu.
>>120908623
bmd shitlord detected
>>120908914
i fucking hate the swingfire, i just have to play it to get deeper in the tech tree.
i mean for fuck sake its ATGMs cant even penetrate a fucking t-64 frontally, the fucking missiles can bust through the side of a battleship for gods sake
>>120908914
>desu
MOOOOOOOT
>>120909008
>i mean for fuck sake its ATGMs cant even penetrate a fucking t-64 frontally
Its missiles penetrate 428mm armor.
T-64 has 432mm on its turret vs shaped charges, 308mm vs shaped on its hull. You just need to stop shooting the damn thing on the turret. You can still penetrate the turret if you land the shot on the sight right of the gun on on the surround of the gun.
Alternatively fly it slightly over, forward of and above the tank then drag downwards sharply, tanks have significant less armor from above, you will frequently ammorack people doing this.
Buts its far easier to just shoot the hull, especially given that T-64's cant exactly shoot from hull down given that they have little gun depression, so they will be almost always be presenting their hull.
>>120909008
>>120909512
I should add to that, NEVER, EVER shoot the missiles at the tank directly from launch. Angle them off by about 45 degrees at launch then curve them in, this gives the tank far far less warning time of an incoming missile.
>>120909185
>MOOOOOOOT
Moot's kill anon.
>>120904686
I like island maps
>>120860674
What happened to the NA clan this time?
>>120911651
I like cityscape maps
>>120912006
same here senpai same here
>if you uptiered the fox and didn't change the pen, it would still be more competitive than both the vbl and the wiesel
>>120912094
More like this.
>Starship hits my T-64 for 750 damage...somehow
Swingfire is such a shit tank. You shoot 2 rockets, stay out of cover the entire time they fly, enemy gets a warning, goes to cover. At least give it some cannons ffs.
>>120914059
>he doesn't know how to use bushes or peek over ridges
>shoot ally in tracks when hes exposed.
>half the enemy team exposes themselves to shoot him.
>1 loss of a scrub for 4 kills.
Totally worth it. would use allies as bait again.
>>120914396
>block a bmp around a corner from behind
>she gets pounded by half the enemy team while you shoot over her head
>even long after her tiny engine has stopped working and is now nothing but a burned out and charred bathtub it keeps me hulldown while i pop off the entire flank
>we still lose
>>120914059
You're shit and not using it correctly. Thats like a surgeon complaining about heart surgery being hard because hes using a chisel and screwdriver instead of a scalpel.
>>120914784
I think its more like him complaining his scalpel isnt good enough while he's grasping it by the sharp end.
>>120915187
>>120914784
>>120914240
>There are people defending this pile of shit named Shitfire
>>120915226
Its not shit. Its just you.
Is the sheridan shit?
acceleration is slow and reload time is a joke.
i want my scorpion back
>>120915408
Yes, because an AFV that's almost as slow as a MBT that doesn't have a turret, which cant fire while moving and has to be stationary for 2 seconds before even attempting to fire, after which you are immediately spotted, the enemy gets an incoming fire alert AND you have to still manually guide the missile in for another 2-4 seconds for less damage than ANY OTHER TANK in the same tier.
Yeah no, it's a really good tank, it must just be me.
>>120915408
not to mention that due to the way ATGMs work it is impossible to fire at anything thats in medium-close range and on the move.
And oh, whats that? A wide gap in the enemies defense line that you want to use to get rid of the artillery? OH WAIT YOU CANT EVEN DO THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO FUCKING BECOME STATIONARY TO ENGAGE THE ARTY THAT CAN ONE SHOT YOU
>>120915724
>>120916071
>Getting in close when you can see 500m.
for what purpose?
>ATGMs work it is impossible to fire at anything thats in medium-close range and on the move.
Your fault for poor positioning.
>AFV that's almost as slow as a MBT
Its accelleration is far far faster. It crosses poor terrain far quicker.
>doesn't have a turret
doesnt need one, you can fire behind you no probs.
>which cant fire while moving
So? I stop to fire in my MBT's so I dont have a shitty huge bloom. whats the difference there?
>stationary for 2 seconds before even attempting to fire, after which you are immediately spotted
your fault for choosing a fucking dumb place to park up then.
>the enemy gets an incoming fire alert
You dont fire directly at them at launch, you fire off-axis and curve them in. This gives much less warning.
>still manually guide the missile in for another 2-4 seconds for less damage than ANY OTHER TANK in the same tier.
You do know that you load two missiles at once right?
Basically what you're saying is "it doesnt work the way I want it to therefore its shit", which is dumb as hell. Its certainly not as good as it was in EA4, but its certainly not the worst T4.
>>120916071
>BECOME STATIONARY TO ENGAGE THE ARTY THAT CAN ONE SHOT YOU
Why can the arty see you? It has a dire view range. Again, shitty positioning on your part.
>>120916071
>THE ARTY THAT CAN ONE SHOT YOU
Dude, you're having WoT PTSD flashbacks again.
>>120915724
It has great view range, the best camo in the game, doesn't give a shit about depression, has a volley of 600+ damage, and can guide it's missiles into weakspots so it pens on almost 100% of shots regardless of range.
>>120916908
And how many locations in maps allow you to make use of anywhere close to 500m view range?
>>120917259
More than enough to use the swingfire
>>120917351
Yeah, in a few very select locations. In Lost Island you can only do anything with it around some places on the edge of the map, in Reactor its worthless outside the bugged north spawn areas.
I do think the swingfire is good, but 500 view range on anything is usually pointless in most situations. It also has some serious drawbacks late game depending on what's left on your team.
>>120917259
All of them.
>>120917658
lol
Why do people not like playing arty? Its chill as fuck, just sit back and plink away at MBT pushes, toss out your smoke shells to help your buddies out. Ammorack some MBT's because their ammo is in the turret (always rage inducing, for them).
>>120917939
Because some people like actually having any impact on the match at all.
>>120917939
Doesn't feel like I'm being useful. I feel like arty needs to be a bit stronger than where it is, but I also don't want WoT sky cancer
>>120917939
The M109 is OK. The gvosdika, however is fucking shit. Literally the only advantage it has is aim time. It is sheer hell to play that garbage. Slower shell travel speed, and less damage, which OE retard thought that was a good idea?
>>120917243
>doesn't give a shit about depression
you still have to stare at the target in sniper view, and that still has depression limits, so you still cant fire at anything when you are at an awkward angle.
also your "volley" is 6 seconds apart in which time the guy you're shooting at constantly has a ATGM warning flashing in the middle of his bloody screen. It is extremely unlikely to hit both missiles on anything thats not caught out in the open.
>can guide it's missiles into weakspots
lol do you really believe that you have any kind of precision control with the bloody things that launch into the air at a random angle to a random height?
>>120916908
>for what purpose?
thanks for confirming that the tank is completely useless in all situations that don't involve a 500 meter clear line of sight
>So? I stop to fire in my MBT's so I dont have a shitty huge bloom. whats the difference there?
lol
>You do know that you load two missiles at once right?
it's like you are arguing for a tank that you have never played before.
This is several times worse than WoT babbies desperately arguing that the ridiculously overpowered premium tanks are fair, at least AW doesn't even attempt to hide that by simply ONLY placing T4 premium tanks into T3 only matches.
And how insecure must this fanbase be to completely deny every complaint about a clearly broken ass tank just so their little bubble doesn't collapse.
Anyway, fuck you guys, i'm off to play the better tank game, which is neither of the above mentioned.
>>120918112
>and that still has depression limits
No, it fucking doesn't
>lol do you really believe that you have any kind of precision control
Do you even know how missiles work? Hold it where the pen marker is green and it will hit every time.
>>120918037
I don't think it should be stronger overall, but the different vehicles should be comparable. Like: >>120918072
M109 is fine, it's not hugely strong, and doesn't massively impact the game, but a class that can't be hit shouldn't. It prevents it becoming a shitter crutchwagon like in WoT. They definitely shouldn't become more powerful at the expense of consistency.
>>120918112
>deny every complaint about a clearly broken ass tank
I legitimately think the swagfire is the best t4 tank, and I'm sorry you don't understand how to use it effectively.
>>120918374
Another huge problem is down to MM. If your WR is even remotely high, MM will plonk you down on the team as likely the best player. Good luck carrying in an arty, especially on shitass maps like Lost Island.
>>120918679
I'm pretty sure Obsidian has stated that "skill based MM" is not in the game anymore.
>>120918783
You have a source for that?
>>120919167
One of the developers on the forum said it but I'm way too lazy to dig it up so I guess I'll retract what I said.
>>120917985
>like actually having any impact
Deleting tanks currently out of sight from the rest of your team, countering enemy arty, bitchslapping thinly skinned vehicles and tossing out assist shells (smoke, illumination), and crippling enemy mbt's ability to move (I use the +fire +module damage guy) becasue your shots always break tracks.
This isnt useful?
>>120918037
>Doesn't feel like I'm being useful.
I always feel I'n being useful, I usually tag along with the MBT pushed, about 300m back from the tail end. Ensures I have a good line of sight on whats ahead and also ensures theres buddies nearby to help is some AFV turns up.
They always seem to love the smoke and illumination shells.
>>120918072
>The M109 is OK. The gvosdika, however is fucking shit.
I actually preferred the Gvosdika to the M109. Aims super fast, moves faster, traverses faster. I stack it with +reload and + aim time retrofits also, takes about 2.5 secs to fully zoom the reticule. I do travel with the push though, not stay at base, so I dont notice the shell travel time as much as some other people might i guess.
I don't understand what people think the benefit of staying at base is? It doesnt help vs counterbattery, and it means you're all on your own should you need support.
>>120918679
>Another huge problem is down to MM. If your WR is even remotely high, MM will plonk you down on the team as likely the best player.
I dont mind that, it usually means there a lot more things on the map that your shells will do much higher damage to. I don't see it happening very often though and I'm at 65% WR, overall.
>>120918783
Nonesense, when i started playing i had like a 6 game winstreak and i was put into tier 2 - tier 3 games as tier 1 even at peak hours, until my W/L went down to around 50%
>>120919437
Uh huh, and?
My winrate started out at ~65%, fell down to 58% after a few dozen games, and now it's back to a more stable 63% and rising.
Small sample sizes mean shit. Even my current 63% means nothing unless I can keep that ratio at 2k+ battles.
>>120918679
>>120919437
>>120919531
Theres always some players thinking theres a conspiracy keeping their win rate down and it not just them having a bad day :D
I'm thinking about throwing 20 shekels at the US merchants making AW to spite the slavic faggots at WG.
Is premium the best investment in that price range? Or should I get one or multiple premium tanks?
Is there a decent guide to the premium vehicles currently available around?
the defense force is strong today, i'm proud of you /awg/ and your literally perfect game
>>120919827
Zhalo-S is the most god-mode for its tier. Taifun is also a beast.
>>120919827
MBT-70
>>120920047
Are you replying to a specific comment or just mad because reasons?
>>120920430
>>120919605
How is it a conspiracy? Have you read the article on their MM system? The better you are, the more you'll be put on teams with bigger and biger skill gaps between you and the total retards
So, why don't I get the cloaking device upgrade for my VBL?
>>120921694
Gotta love when that happens.
It seems like when an enemy is first spotted sometimes they appear in one location then teleport to where they actually are.
>>120920308
>>120920335
premium t8s soon? any rumors?
Premium tanks are seriously OP when they are the only top tier tank in the game. And this happens way too often. Do they have special MM?
>roughneck
>north spawn
>be BMD-4
>we plan to rush northern flank
>get counter-charged lead by an M1A1
>front line gets established
>no way for me to fire my nuke through the A1's APS
>reposition to the hill further south overlooking the north and the refinery
>wait for one of the MBTs supporting the A1 to expose itself
>pop several of them, do 3000 damage in a few minutes
>suddenly get hit
>what the fuck
>a friendly T80 shot me with HEAT
>he's raging in chat about 'camping noob team'
>polish name
>ended up losing anyway
>T80 did no damage except to me
Never play with slavs sempai
>>120922851
>Do they have special MM?
Yeah, ending up more often on top of the team is a feature. For some reason, the EU and NA pages don't advertise it but RU does.
Seriously, just how fucking hard do I have to carry in this fucking game for a win, for fuck sake.
>>120923510
That's not much of a carry. You got good damage, definitely, but that's not exactly a carry.
I think what you're asking is "how the fuck can these teams be THIS bad?"
>Fox
holy shit this thing is hard to control
>>120924415
Its a Tier 3 anon. you posted a Tier 7. theres far more total HP on the teams at tier 7.
>>120924484
I don't really like it. It's good but Obsidian really fucked up on the handling.
>>120925274
I know.
Whats the differences between the BMD, BMP and Swingfire tech trees? They all seem to fill the same role.
Is any one of them clearly better? I think i enjoy this type of gameplay these trees provide, but i guess i need to commit and pick only one of em.
>>120924484
It doesn't really handle like you'd expect a wheeled vehicle to. Feels like it's driving on ice.
>>120925579
BMD >>>>>> BMP = Recon
The BMD line has some fantastic vehicles, great camouflage, great speed, amazing firepower, and actually has 2 tier 8s at the moment.
The recon line has vehicles that you will either love or hate and ends with the Wiesel. No tier 8 currently. They have better camouflage, view range, and mobility than the BMP/BMD line but have WAY worse firepower.
The BMP line is basically just a gimped version of the BMD line. They're "better" than the recon line because they still get good firepower, but they're the "worst" line in the sense that the choice ultimately is between the recon line for pure scouting or the BMD line for pure firepower, while the BMP line is just worse at either than both of them.
>>120924415
>Plays best tank in game
>gets 4k damage
>calls it carrying
>not even solo
I call that "average" anon.
>>120924484
>holy shit this thing is FUN
fify
>>120925579
BMPs are slightly worse BMDs
cant say much about swingfire, been only playing 5 matches with it. its clunky, slow and is useless in a lot of maps
How shit do ATGMs become once those defensive systems start showing up? I'm only at tier 4, and missiles already seem like a shitty gimmick in most situations.
>>120926213
>useless in a lot of maps
what?!
>>120926081
I didn't say that was a carry, I said my team was pretty fucking horrible.
If you look at how much damage everyone else on my team did you'll notice that me and my platoonmate did more damage than everyone else on our team combined.
We didn't carry shit, we just couldn't believe a team could do so bad.
Hell, the T-90 didn't even do 1/3 of my damage and he's an MBT a tier higher than me. The T-90 on its own is OP as shit just like the BMD-4 so he has absolutely no excuse.
>>120926145
Yeah, definitely fun. But damn it has a mind of it's own sometimes.
>>120926372
ATGMs are good at tier 5, then shaped charge modifiers on MBT make them pretty shit at tier 6.
At tier 7 the BMD and BMP's missiles are godlike and only 1 same-tier vehicle has APS.
At tier 8 it's utterly hopeless to use a single-shot. The only tier 8 that even has a chance of dealing damage with its ATGMs is the Ramka, and it still loses at least 1/4th of its total damage if an enemy has APS.
To give you some pointers on how horrifying APS is:
The T-90 starts out with APS when stock, meaning at best you can sling another missile at it after APS shuts it down and at worst it is completely immune to ATGMs if it hides like a bitch between APS cooldowns.
APS can activate in groups. If 3 tanks in a pile have ATGMs and you fire a missile, it only activates the APS of ONE of them. In the case of the Ramka, you can end up firing your whole salvo and have them all be destroyed by APS.
And the most fun part of all: did you know APS can activate even if the vehicle that has it is not actively being targeted by a missile? And that it can activate even when the vehicle is not spotted?
>PvE
Is it worth doing hard missions with pubs and failing half the time instead of just going for medium missions and winning most of the time?
>>120926709
>failing half the time on hard
What? I play all solo in tier 8 AFVs of all things on PvE hard and as you can see from my winrate it's pretty fucking hard to lose.
The only times I can remember clearly losing are either due to the enemy capping the point and everyone was too lazy to decap or everyone played like an utter retard and I couldn't carry them hard enough.
>>120926624
The armata will probably have lazers that knock out all incoming ATGMs.
>>120926624
Do ATGMs get any faster, or does their speed stay at 200 m/s?
>>120927395
On the Russian server, the APS will knock out all non-Armata originating projectiles with 0% failure rate or cooldown.
>>120927550
sadly no
>>120926851
I play T5 on hard, and it's a nightmare solo, nobody does the secondaries, and when i do, there's always the moron that steps on cap while I'm walking past the spawns...
>>120927809
tfw
>>120927614
Oh god.
>>120926624
>ATGMs are good at tier 5, then shaped charge modifiers on MBT make them pretty shit at tier 6.
I was intending to stop at the bagel and fox, I guess I'll stick to that plan.
>APS
I take it unlimited APS is a huge advantage to the version limited to 4 charges, even with the increased reload time?
>>120927550
>Do ATGMs get any faster, or does their speed stay at 200 m/s?
Stuck at 200m/s. The only good news is that tier 6 introduces tandem missiles which ignore ERA, but so few tanks have ERA to begin with that you might as well ignore it.
>>120927939
>I take it unlimited APS is a huge advantage to the version limited to 4 charges, even with the increased reload time?
Yes, because it works identically to active APS. You'd think passive would just redirect the missile away from the tank, and while it does that... your missile is destroyed after it's guided away.
Unlimited APS also doesn't stick out on your tank so you can tell which have it or not, unlike active APS which gives you a huge streetlight which they can also be spotted from.
>>120927809
>T5 on hard
You should stick to medium then. Hard is pretty much reserved for tier 7 and 8.
So /awg/ what lines are you currently grinding?
>>120929110
Dongray 2 towards XM8, BMD-4 towards Ramka, Ariete towards T9 Token.
>>120929110
All AFVs, TD line and the leo line.
BMD's fun m8
>>120929110
Sheridan (73%), Starship (74%), and Chieftain (56%).
Figured it might get the bad tanks out of the way first.
So does the m1a1's heat multi purpose actually do anything interesting?
>>120873978
>girlfriend
You are behind on the times, they got married.Why was my slav gf crazy as shit and slash my tires, but this piece of shit gets a qt that seems normal
>>120929771
Yeah, it gains self-consciousness mid-flight.
>scorpion
i want to die
>>120930323
A litmus test for shitters.
>>120930547
Playing scorpion after having played it during early access just makes me sad.
>>120919827
>I'm thinking about throwing 20 shekels at the US merchants making AW
wut
>>120930547
don't you throw some latin ass bullshit at me
it's a bmp without the afv cap bonus, and a gun that can't deal damage for shit
>>120879073
Literally learning to drive this cunt in real life. Well, the FV434 Bulldog anyway (The updated version)
>>120879073
>>120930547
scorpion literally fun tier 3
Does autocannon fire make ERA bricks explode?
>>120934256
Sometimes they block a single shot (which means nothing) and sometimes shots completely ignore it and go straight through.
>>120934507
Yeah but does the ERA explode or not?
>>120934789
Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
Like what I just said.
>>120935014
Goddamnit. Does spraying it with APDS or HEI make any difference?
>>120918332
>No, it fucking doesn't
Yes it fucking has.
>>120935118
Doesn't seem like it.
Why are you asking? Only 3 tanks pop to mind that have ERA so it's not like you'll be seeing it much.
>>120932509
Missile didn't arm ))))))))
m1a1 armor upgrades still aren't fixed
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>120932509
working as intended intended
If the major patch doesn't have major fixes I'm shooting up my school.
>>120932509
A dud?
What global upgrade on the AMX 10?
Does the damage upgrade even work if you only do like 20 damage a shot?
>>120942604
yeah it works, but the bonuses are multiplicative and not additive. you won't get much out of it.
>exp tank
>PVE medium
>capping radio stations
>two ramkas and a BMP-3 spawn on my ass
>>120942718
Get used to it. Enemies spawn the same place every time.
>>120942718
You need to know the spawn locations for every map if you want to play non MBTs on pve efficiently
And even if you know them, there's always the tard that steps on cap while you are in the middle of it
>>120942718
>PVE
fucking child
@120943814
wow lol stop being a meanie senpai
>>120944069
Look at this nigger and laugh.
>>120944069
>fucking up a REPLY
Baka
>>120944069
>@
tbhfam
>Zhalo
>Balanced
Pick one.
>>120946821
yo dude anime is gay
I just couldn't reload fast enough at the end when the bots piled up on the cap zone.
Anyway, are people really this bad or is this a new form of griefing?
>>120944069
This isn't twitter friendo.
Can someone tell me the point of the XVM, cause I was late to the party since i got it after the nerf
Seems kinda shit with the lower plate and gun cannot pen shit
>>120947420
XM1*
>>120947420
>>120947565
You just exposed yourself as a shitter
>>120947715
I bet you think the BMD line is better than the BMP line eh?
Back to reddit lad
>>120947998
>>120942718
>PVE
I have found your problem.
>>120947256
>playing paper tanks on a long city mission designed for mbts
They are bad and blind
At what teir do you stop using HEAT and start using APFSDS as your primary penetrating ammunition?
>>120949604
It don't work like dat.
>>120947256
You do realise that PvE is, in general, filled with the type of people that find PvP hard? And that you are expecting these people to be useful?
>>120947998
But anon, BMD line IS better than BMP line.
>>120950229
Its kinda does anon.
>>120949604
Around Tier 5 is where tanks start picking up significant SC multipliers on their armor.
Well.
>>120950436
B-but, isn't easy modo PvE supposed to be the turbo shitter containment mode?
>>120949604
Try the Chieftain at tier 5 and then come back and tell us how great a tank without HEAT is.
>>120950635
Flash based interface STRIKES AGAIN.
>>120950635
Silky smooth 60 FPS!
>>120950595
You choose HEAT vs AP around what tanks you are going to engage. It has nothing to do with the tier.
>Looks like a PS2 game
>So poorly optimised there's barely any difference between low and ultra graphic setting
>Barely manages to run at 60 fps on an NSA quantum computer
Why is this game so poorly optimised?
>>120951270
At low tier you can just pack all HEAT and plow through anyones armor anyway, given that even that MBT's dont have a SC multiplier before tier 4.
I was asking when that situation stops?
Anyone feel like the fox doesn't have enough missiles? I almost always run out.
>>120951270
That's true, but at higher tiers, even AFVs get shit like ERA and at long range it's almost always better to just fire a couple of AP rounds into them.
Tier 5 is the last tier you can get away with loading mostly HEAT, but you can't even do that because of all the t6 spam.
>people using HEAT in PvP
Are we engaging the same people? The only way I can snapshot people fast enough while staying safe and at exposed weakspots is with AP. HEAT is just way too slow to hit the speedyfast AFVs or jiggling MBTs.
>>120952279
>>120952279
Some people can lead better than others.
>>120952279
Most players almost always play MBTs, no way they'll outrun a HEAT round.
How important is the ERA upgrade on the tier 5 M60? Is it vital as the applique on the Chieftain?
>>120952279
but heat and AP have the same velocity in this game
>>120953793
But they don't.
>>120952386
>Some people can lead better than others
I have a feeling this is why some people dont like the Starship and Sheridan, Their HEAT rounds are great for their tier, do fantastic damage, but you know, if you cant lead well enough to use them, you're going to find those tanks supremely underwhelming.
>>120953793
>same velocity in this game
no.
>grind the BMD-4 all weekend
>exhausted at the 40% mark
>check out what premiums I haven't used for a while
low-tier's where the fun at anon-kun
>>120954873
The Starship and Sheridan also have shitty gun handling, DPM, and are xbox huge on top of that.
FINALLY GOT THE T-80
THE TORTURE IS OVERSure wish it had fucking ERA though.
>>120956089
muh 152mm cannon
why is abrams penetration so bad? do americans not know how to make ammo?
>>120951715
Le cry engine is le best engine )))))))))
t. vatnikzagod
>>120951715
>>Looks like a PS2 game
>>120960392
Muh game balance.
>>120960392
whole line has shit ammo pen
>>120961925
CHARM
H
A
R
M
>bmd4 hits you with he frag for 400 damage
Not like having the best missile and autocannon in game was enough, right?
>>120962515
It's only unfair in PvE because they snapshot you with it, use it as their primary round, and the game spawns tons of them.
In PvP, not so much.
>>120951715
If you turn object detail down it runs pretty well.
Is it worthwhile to buy premium time?
>>120969120
Do you value 33% of your time?
>finally give in and get an arty to get the good commanders
Feels too ez.
Whoever made it so that when you repair your engine, you don't automatically start moving again, should be taken out behind a shed and shotrepeatedly
I'm almost done with the T-64. Are the T-72 and the T-72A really bad ?
>>120970551
If you relied on your turret armor on the tier 2-4 tanks in the same line then you're in for an unpleasant surprise. It's probably best to wait for the balance patch that's supposed to come soonâ„¢.
>>120969282
so, no?
I just cannot get light tanks or tds to work in high tiers. It feels like if you aren't an afv or mbt, you are a second class citizen
>All my boosts just gone despite saying they had 9 hours left
im mad
>>120960595
People forget just what PS2 looked like.
>>120972052
Light tanks have been nerfed to fuck. High tier MBTs are what LTs were plus armour.
>>120976062
The mbts mobility is so ridiculous at higher tiers
>turret traverse is 30+
>can reverse at 30km/h
>can hit 60 km/h going forward
If you are an lt or td, it's almost impossible to pen them frontally at range because you have to hit these microscopic weak spots. And when you managed to get around them (which is hard on most maps with 15+ players), they just turn and murder you. To add salt to it all, most mbts have almost as much view range as lts/tds.
>>120978503
Don't forget that MBTs also gain point defence lasers because we can't have ATGMs damaging them.
tfw have no clue what I'm doing and not looking in too deep into the games mechanics and just playing both PvE and PvP at random
>>120978762
Yeah, the only reliable way to pen then frontally at range gets negated by an automatic neutralizer
Which is the best tier when it comes to balance?
Tier 3? There are several weaker tanks at that level but none are outright trash or completely superior compared to everything else.
I can't believe people actually like the bagel. It's an AFV without the camo and twice the size.
>wait 10mins for a game
>Loss is 3mins
>go on forums
>see thread about high tier TD's need buffs
>see OP is complaining that the Centauro and the Centauro 120 has no armor, cant pen anything, and is over all just shit
>like twenty people agreeing with him
>all I post is, "Well I don't have a problem with either and am enjoying them. Perhaps you are playing them wrong?"
>like 6 replies almost instantly about how I'm lying and only playing doubles advocate
>ask them to post their statistics from the tank and maybe I can give pointers
>they demand I do it first, I show them my superior stats and that I am in fact playing it properly and doing well consistently
>silence
>threadlocked
lmauuaoo
>>120980590
>dregbad
>>120980934
yes?
After 5 shit teams i got a good one
>>120980920
Would you care to repost your "superior" stats?
>>120979583
3 is probably the most overall fun tier. 4 is good too but it starts to fray plus you get put into tier 6 battles often.
>>120981528
>Shitter hasn't even counter battery'd. lmao guess why you got 5 losses? Cause you rely on your team to carry your fat useless ass.
>>120982131
>counter batterying
literally 1 step above botting in terms of usefulness, such a waste of time
>>120982631
Pls stop being so bad.
>>120982772
I'm not even dregbag, Why would you take the time to try to do damage that probably won't connect when you could be putting damage into MBTs? retarded
>>120982893
>Why would you take the time to try to do damage that probably won't connect
Making so that the other arties won't target MBTs/TDs, therefore making them lose focus at best or rout at worst. Yes, there are MBT players that fucking rout once they get hit by arty.
>>120983323
>taking my own utility out of the game in order to attempt to take the other arty's utility out of the game
amazing logic, I'm sure everyone will be thrilled to see your 200 end game damage and the enemy's 2000+
>>120983572
>in order to attempt
Oh please. Countering in AW is stupidly easy, as the dumfucks that play arty usually always fire from the same spot.
>>120983968
>usually
>>120969845
I hope you typed GEEEEET DUNKED ON! in allchat after that. I do that after big hits when playing arty. The sheer amount of butthurt you normally get after is glorious.
>>120984108
"STOP CAMPING!!!1111" tends to work pretty well too.
>>120984098
You're right, it's almost always. You even get to see their exact position in the minimap. And the vehicles that fire get rendered even if they aren't spotted for five or so seconds which is plenty of time for nailing them.
>>120983968
No they don't. It's pretty rare now to find one that sits still. Most have also copped on to the large cover near most spawns as well.
>>120984221
wotlabs is that way
>>120984108
middle school is that way
>>120984470
reddit is that way
excuse me what way is /awsg/?
>>120984549
yes, the same direction as wotlabs
>>120984432
Are you on RU? I really find it hard to believe that the average non RU player learnt to fucking move after shooting.
>>120985010
>RU higher skill than NA
You understand that NA was the highest unicum per capita server in world of tanks right? The same is most likely true of AW given that there was a migration of skilled players from wot to aw. Having a server where everyone speaks the same language generally helps people share knowledge, which is why EU will always be filled with the worst players thus will be the easiest server to play on.
>>120984903
>>120985264
Ebin bait, someone will fall for it.
>Having a server where everyone speaks the same language generally helps people share knowledge
Which sure as fuck isn't the case for NA.
>>120985436
>no counter argument
>better say ebin bait xDD
I FUCKING
HATE
BAGEL
PANZERS
>>120985264
>"OE speciafically invited players from "top" WoT clans to help with AW balancing"
>"Hey, we have a super special direct line to OE to give feedback on the balance. Don't worry, we'll help them make a good game."
>Shitskins western MBT line still happens, the scout line still happens, the leo line still happens, the bmp line still happens
Why are WoT players so fucking incompetent?
What am I meant to do in the Leopard 1?
I thought it might have something to make up for the lack of armour, but it doesn't seem to.
>>120985719
How about top NA clans getting their anuses dilated by EU literally whos. How about E-sports shit being dominated by vatniks. How about you get a tripocode so I won't have to put up with your stupidity, Tioga.
are most consumables really crucial and necessary?
>>120985993
>competitive play and pub play being equatable in any way
awesome just awesome. enjoy clubbing your sea of yellow players
>>120986185
>competitive play and pub play being equatable in any way
Nice damage control.
>Having a server where everyone speaks the same language generally helps people share knowledge
It's not like our slavs have their own communities or they're fucking finally learning english or anything.
Also NA ALWAYS had more sudaca and squares-speak trash than english speaking people. If it weren't for them the NA WoT servers would've already been closed.
Oh shit, I fell for it.
>>120986167
Don't bother with extinguishers (and if you really want to pick the automatic one), carry the spare parts or whatever the fuck it's called in the 6th slot so you can almost instantaneously repair tracks. That's it.
>>120986772
what about crew consumables, energy bars and protein drinks and that shit, useless fluff that doesn't contribute much to boost their skills?
>>120986834
>drinks
Get those instead of the extinguishers. You even get free ones, I don't remember what triggers it though.
>useless fluff that doesn't contribute much to boost their skills?
The drink should give 5% faster reload/aim time at the very least.
>>120986772
>Don't bother with extinguishers
Bait.
Definite bait.
>platoon of 3 [KEVIN] BMD-4s effortlessly wipe my entire team
>each of them gets atleast 2 crits each with their atgms and then just circle strafe my teams tanks with broken as shit autocannon
>only person on my team to break 3k damage, the next highest was 860 in a T-90
>>120987267
>platoon of 3 [KEVIN]
Your fault for playing on NA.
>targeting time
>aim speed
These are actually the same thing, aren't they?
>>120987624
targetting is for ATGMs, its the speed for when you come to a complete stop to fire
>>120987267
Better than the platoon of 3 T90s that club late night low population games. At least the kevin players consistently fuck up because they're not very good. You literally can't fuck up in a T90.
>>120987748
I thought the time for taking full aim and being able to fire ATGMs was the same. And if they're two separate stats, then why do tanks that don't get missiles get modules that reduce targeting time?
>>120987748
The Leopard 1 doesn't have ATGMs, but it still has a targeting time and upgrade that reduces it.
>>120988073
>>120988074
you know when you are moving in an MBT your circle will only get so small, then when you stop, it gets smaller. the first stage is aiming time, as in when you turn your turret to aim somewhere the circle will only get so small if you are on the move, then when you stop moving to take the shot or whatever, then thats a targeting time. this is how they explained it to us in the alpha
>>120985910
Never mind, it's not as bad as I thought.
The gun depression is quite nice.
>>120988074
It's the same shit unless specified.
Aim time = targeting time UNLESS specifically in the context of ATGMs.
>>120985910
Actual mobility. Better gun handling than the T-54 and the Fatton but at those tiers that hardly matters. On the other hand its HEAT rounds are trash.
>>120989931
>Actual mobility
Doesn't seem any better than the other MBTs, really.
>>120989690
wrong.
Aim Time is the time it takes to aim the gun. It's superseded by Targeting Time in MBTs. This is where the whole "T-90 has the largest learning curve" meme comes into play. While on the move, the T-90 actually has the highest accuracy of any tank in the game, but the problem is that your aiming circle is so large that you can't actually tell where the center is. When you come to a stop, your aiming circle will come to a close and you will be less accurate than you were while on the move. This coupled with aiming time and targeting time, makes the tank extremely difficult to play, similarly to the BMD-4 due to it's very hard2use ATGM's that actually can go through APS if you aim it properly.
>>120990287
>ATGM's that actually can go through APS if you aim it properly.
Do tell because I've never heard of that.
>>120990287
>When you come to a stop, your aiming circle will come to a close and you will be less accurate than you were while on the move
This is fucking retarded.
>>120990287
>While on the move, the T-90 actually has the highest accuracy of any tank in the game, but the problem is that your aiming circle is so large that you can't actually tell where the center is.
is this a joke?
>>120990521
You take out the APS first with the autocannon then you fire the ATGM :)
>>120990287
What the fuck, does that mean that if you wiggle in the T-90 you actually gain accuracy? Who came up with that kind of stupid shit?
>>120991495
no, your accuracy increases on a percentage base according to your speed, only problem is that its hard to see where the gun is aiming and the shot could go anywhere
>tfw you finally figure out what the fuck you're doing and using a scout vehicle the way it was intended to be used
that was my most fun PVP match yet, fucking love this plucky little vehicle
>>120991760
>those different crew levels
Did you retrain the loader using the free option several times or something?
>>120991760
>playing AFVs as keyhole peekers
Don't play past the VBL.
>>120991890
I get rekt when I try to play as raider scout in the XM800 though, I'll wait for the Fox for that
>>120991843
something like that happened once, forgot why though
shitposting is so easy when no one knows how the fucking game works
>>120992298
Thank you based Obsidian for not stating shit anywhere, and on top of that having broken perks names/descriptions and bugs that might as well be unlisted features, like the MBT reload speed cap, or PvE mercyrolls.
Be skeeted upon.
VEHICULAR ENVIRONMENTAL CAMOUFLAGE WHEN?
>>120985310
why are you
>playing with yewchung?
>>120993340
his accent makes me wettbh
Managed to finish both starship and arty commander grinds this weekend, good event.
>>120993340
Pity?
>>120993340
nobody else wants to play with me
SEKSY
>>120994794
I prefer the Leos with the brick turret. How's the tier 6, btw?
>>120994794
Turret is gross.
>>120994794
UNFF
>>120994923
>tier 6
I'm on tier4
>>120995013
Oh...I'm also lazily grinding my way through the tier 4.
>>120994923
Leps have interesting turret designs, they all vary too, unlike boring generic 1980's Abrams turret
>>120995150
>lazily grinding my way through the tier 4.
Same here, but its nice to look at whats in the higher tiers sometimes.
>>120996320
why are you posting previews
not that i mind seeing them it just seems oddtfw nearly have my xm8
>>120998174
just sharing the love
>>120984470
>regular arty victim detected
>enemy team has a 3 man GCN platoon
>>120999247f
uck off tioga
>>120999247
>moon_woman on enemy team
>>120999395
not tioga senpai
>>120999825
Garlic come play on yurop.
>>120999825
LEVEL UP YOUR FUCKING CREW GODDAMNIT
>>120999395
baka to be tbqh senpai
>>120999247
>platooning with 2 GCN members
>>120999973
>>120999973
>>120999973
>>120999973
>>120999973
>>121000224
>>120999973
>>121000224
>>121000601
>>120999973
>>121000601
The face of a man who shouldn't even be qualified to drive a forklift let alone a tank.
>half the team is wiesels, vbls, and bmd4s
>yolo wolfpack everything and demolish other teams mbts
>>121002701
I hate wiesel players
>Impossible to hit up close because inexplicable shot delay
>once you finally kill them they talk shit in chat
>>121003041
I love the wiesel. Just needs more camo :^)
>>121003503
I love the wiesel
I just hate its players
Similar to the XM1
pomf
>>121003830
the biggest pieces of shit in this game roll around in the M1/M1A1.
abrams players have the worst personalities and the worst skill in high tiers.
>in T-72 and doing abysmal
>getting wrecked by a T-72 that's using proxy spotting
>about to get killed as T-72 attempts to rush and crest a hill
>land one lucky hit and burn him to death with 900 damage
>>121006241
>tfw wanted to go leo2 buttfuck 90% of the line
>>121006241
xm1/m1a1s/t90s
Soon to be armatas and m1a2s, try hards who just min max and want the best tank, then blame their team every time they die.
>>121006241
>abrams players have the worst personalities and the worst skill in high tiers.
Probably because all the XM1 fotm faggots ended up playing them.
>Team with less Starships always wins
This is pretty common at Tier IV, right?
>>121009157
>Reactor
>My team has 4 Starships
>Theirs has 0
>11 people bunch up on the bridge
>They don't manage to push up at all and just camp while getting plinked down
>The other 4 of us, myself included, are left to defend the WHOLE FUCKING MAP from 10 or so people
>Manage to hold off 5 people before getting overrun
>Enemies lazily sweep through the bridge from behind and slaughter the remaining 8 players on my team
Team with less Starships always wins.
>>121009157
Starshit wouldn't even be that bad if it didn't have the fucking tumor.
>>121010129
Or if mercy rolls weren't a thing.
>>121010129
>Driving the Starshit and LAV-300 has dropped my W/L from 59% to 52%
Why are we still here?
Just to suffer?
>>121010458
I'd rather not have the tumor. Thanks to it it can't even do the thing 'merican tanks are supposed to be the best at - hulldown.
>>121010640
What the fuck are you doing with the LAV? Don't tell me you're bringing it in PvP without having unlocked the APFSDS round.
>>121010754
Generally?
>Move out of cover for half a second
>INCOMING ARTY
>FWSHHHHFWSHHHHFWSHHHH
>Cannon shells fly past me
Or
>Entire team gets slaughtered like pigs
>Left to desperately fight 11 people on my own
Pick one.
How do you set things on fire in this game? I think it has only happened to me once in the 50 odd games i've played. Usually the target seems to die from being shot into its engine before a fire breaks out.
>>121012004
Shoot the engine with HE or APIT.
>>121012004
Destroying the fuel tank is a guaranteed fire, engine fires are not really a thing
>>121012424
Where are the fuel tanks on an armored vehicle even?
>>121013318
In the back, typically on the sides. Depends on the tank, though.
>Get Freja
>Expect delicious accent
>Get generic American woman voice
Why?
>>121016042
Lazy, cheap devs. Not really a surprise considering the game's developed by an american company.
>team thanks me for winning the game
Oh bb
>>121016356
Eh, the game is still very incomplete, we don't even have a lot of core features.
I just hope it's changed.
>>121017236
There sure are a lot of different accents on the characters though, those in PVE I mean
>>121016356
Please refrain from nationalist shitposting.
>>121017048
>First match
>run into a bradley
>it absolutely fucks me and there's nothing i can do about it
i miss the stingray 2's applique already
>>121017903
Please fuck off to reddit.
>T3/T4
>in the fucking Bagel
OY
VEY
>>121018205
Please return to /wtg/ or /wotg/ if you dislike American developers so much.
>>121018212
>>121018212
HATE
BAGELS
>>121018212
I have 12k left on the Sheridan and I can't bring myself to finish the grind.
The tank was so much fun during early access and now it's even shittier than the T49.
>>121019930
HATE
NEWSPAPER
>>121020348
I enjoyed the sheridan
For the M1A1's armor packages, is it both of them that are bugged, or just the second that adds TUSK?
ANIME BROS, WW@
>>121022370
>Frolaytia will never be your CO
>she will never stomp on you as reward for a mission well done
>>121022370
anime is for fags
>>121023932
I'll be a fag 4u :3
Last thread someone said the LAV-600 was shit. Is it? I'm enjoying the LAV-300 right now quite a bit.
>>121024382
The LAV 300 can pen anything in it's tier and tier 5.
The LAV-600 cannot.
>>121024721
Well, shit.
I remember seeing a guide pic on how to pen several high tier MBTs frontally, I thought I saved it but I didn't, anyone has it?
Why do so many players not realise that when you shoot, you are rendered on peoples clients for 2 seconds regardless of if you're spotted or not?
Sure, you dont get a big marker over your head, but if you're just sitting in one spot plinking away, you're going to get rekt.
Seems to be mostly TD players who cry when I land arty on their head doing this.
>>121026239
You're just a cheating cunt. Admit it. This has nothing to do with how anything works in the game. You paid for a cheat that allows you to see people when they shoot.
>>121026239
then how do autocannon heroes keep spraying me down and all I can see is their boolets
>>121026478
... why would you do that when the game does it for you...?
>>120921694
I've made a thread about it, using your .webm.
Apparently, it's the fault of your connection!
Working as intended )))
>>121024848
Sorry man, but the high point of the TD line really is the Dragon-300 90.
>>121026569
Well according to the TDs players it's not in the game so clearly you are some kind of cheater or wizard that either uses game mechanics or just isn't a fucking retard.Yes I was being sarcastic also fuck f2p niggers. At least the game is fun and Obsidian isn't WG or Gaijin jew tier.
>>121026478
>>121026564
maybe u need to turn up your gpu settings? its working for me also.
>>121026608
Its the fault of my connection when the guy behind me was also shooting him and saw exactly the same effect?
Nice try Obsidian. Damage control mode engaged?
>>121026618
That's disappointing. At least the Taifun II I shekeld out for is pretty nice. Good margin on credits and XP. Though the credits are the only thing I'll be using probably.
>>121026930
Yep, SS is blaming customers again. Just enjoy the thread.
http://aw.my.com/en/forum/showthread.php?41516-Teleporting-tanks
>>121026618
ERC is the best TD by far.
>>121026931
Oh trust me, you'll use the EXP. Especially if you dont enjoy playing arty.
>>121026992
I don't get it. Why do I need to free XP arty if I don't enjoy it. I just won't play it. Although the arty seems fun enough. At least back in CAT. Haven't unkocked them yet. Should be done soon though.
>>121027204
commanders & retrofits
>>121026931
im considering getting one of the packs but i don't know which to get, the taifun looks cool but so does the RDF-LT
which is better for grinding cash if anyone has both?
>>121027242
Yeah okay that makes sense.
>>121027262
No idea really. I only got the Taifun and played 2 rounds so far cause I got it late and played with a friend at Tier 4. So far I can say it has good gun depression, pen and damage are pretty good. It's very flat and has high concealment when sitting still. Almost as good as scouts. Gun is pretty accurate at long range. Made around 150k plus in a round where I barely did anything. Really depends on if you like the light tanks from Shishkin or the TDs from Wöllfli.
>>121027262
Well the Taifun is great and the RDF-LT is kinda shitty.
Is there not a single tank game on the market that isn't plagued by moba lane maps and peekaboo style gameplay? It was okay in T1 and 2, but by T3 everyone has the best spots to smoosh cover figured out and refuses to move. Seriously, i've seen more cooperation in free for all games.
>>121028201
War Thunder, but it has it's own huge problems.
We're fucked.
>>121028243
I've played WT. It's got it's own massive problems as you said. I mean, the teams cooperate a lot more, but the rng is through the roof, among other things. And of course it's full of literal sky-cancer, which drops it's laser guided bombs half the fucking game.
>>121028295
Oh, and fuck Gajin's retarded BR fiddling, facing T-54's in a tank one BR lower is soo much fun.
>>121028447
BR is the worst thing that they could've come up with. Making it dependant on community performance is so fucking dumb. I enjoyed GF for a while and generally think they did it better than WoT but it couldn't keep me for long. They're as bad with jewing as WoT. At least AW isn't that bad yet. Hopefully it will never be. At least the community is a bit more civilized. At least for now.
>>121028295
>the teams cooperate a lot more
I wouldn't agree on that.
>>121029719
Well, obviously YMMV, but the capping mechanics in WT force the teams to cooperate if they want or not. They gravitate towards the cappoints if they want to win at all. I rarely see some derps going on glory-runs alone, usually i see at least 2-3 vehicles split off to flank. Meanwhile in AW capping is actively discouraged by the mechanics used, and people just scatter to whatever cozy cover they know of about midway of the map.
>>121029871
The part where everyone hounds for the same, finite resource (HP pool & kills) is literally killing it at times.
>>121032254
This damage/point system makes the most sense. Pretty much the same system in any kind of online shooter nowadays so people can't "kill steal" because the kill doesn't give the same amount of points. Then again stuff like arty and missiles does force you to move from time to time. Depending on class, sitting still in one spot is benefitial or not. TDs for instance get their sniper bonus when doing it like that. Now MBTs should be on the move and the like. Best practice like any other games of this type, is to play in a platoon. I like that all classes play differently. WoT and WT always felt the same. Then again they should probably change the capping system and make it more profitable to do it. Or something along the lines. People are dumb and do not understand that playing the objective can sometimes make more sense. For them, the objective is always to kill the entire team. That always poses the danger that they outskill you and kill or that one less retarded guy actually goes capping.
>>121032254
I don't really know what other kind of resource for HP would work that is easy to understand.
>>120994794
>stock version
Attain my status of vehicular comfort, sempai
>>121033060
Module damage system when it isn't full of unpredictability.
It works well in Men of War because any penetrating hit will fuck up a vehicle. I think that's what most people expected WT to be, but instead, it's just RNG, bugs, sponges, and bias.
>>121033519
The problem comes from calculating the damaged modules for each and every vehicle and sending the data to every player.
There are also multiple games ongoing at the same time. Can the server handle the stress?
>>121033202
Why is it a bad tank? I was going to play down the Leo line becausepatriotism.Is it really shit?
>>121033632
You sound like it's not something MMO's do all the time. I mean, module damage is nothing else than a status effect.
>>121033519
Thinking about it, actually having crew in MoW makes a huge difference. They can only repair the vehicle form outside of it, and bailing out, then later returning to repair it is a thing. You can't have that in these games. Because MUH RATING.
>>121033632
Removing a lot of the RNG makes a difference. WT used to be more punishing and a lot less random, but players couldn't handle being outskilled, and their slavic slope boxes not being artificially invincible. It's mostly an intentional design decision to cater to shitters, rather than a technological limitation.
>>121033825
I forget they aren't jewgaming for a moment.
>>121033695
The 2a5 is the first Leo that acts like a tank. The path to it is a real trail of tears and frustration of bugged armour, bad ammo and shitty gun.
The 2a5 when fully upgraded is at best okay, outperformed by every other tank in all aspects but the Ariete, which I'd put it side by side with.
The T90 is faster, punches harder and has more hitpoints, as well as absolutely miniscule weakspots. The Abrams punches harder, has more hitpoints but is easier to kill than the 2a5.
You get two retrofits, a universal and a fucking mobility(???) slot you can unlock. The LAHAT ATGM in the L55 cannon does 700 damage with a penetration of 1068mm, but you're literally better off using AP or HEAT as at this point, everybody's got APS. Gunner's sight is a huge weakspot, turret ring is a weakspot, driver's hatch is a weakspot and there's a flat line of metal on the right of the upper plate that takes full critical damage. So yeah, it's a bad tank.
>>121034013
Muh Kruppstahl. Well that's disappointing. I can see some of the weakspots buth other than that it's kinda dumb. And that the Abrams can punch harder is equally dumb. It uses the same fucking gun from the same fucking factory. Difference being that it's shorter than the Leo 2 variant. What the fuck Obsidian. Man it's really disappointing. Apparently the TD line which I'm playing is shit as well. Why do I always like things that the developer hates.
>That hill on Reactor
Why is this still not fixed?
>>121034013
And thinking about it, it should be faster than a T90 as well. In which case the mobility slot would make sense as well. According to wikipedia, the T90 can go 60, while the Leo 2 can go 72. Is it "balanse" or what.
>>121034406
We "Armored Warfare: Project Armata" now.
>>121034232
You can still do good in the Leopards, but you will actually want to kill yourself sometimes when an Abrams is unpennable to you except the microscopic driver's hatch which he is wriggling to avoid getting hit and he just pumps 300+ HE damage into your turret ring time and time again. Actually, that goes for all the MBTs you'll face.
PvE is just an absolute nightmare where you have to play as a TD, as the BMPs/BMDs autoaim at your turret ring with HE.
>>121034406
Leos are faster than all the other MBTs, but that doesn't really matter when you're all hulldown and taking potshots at each other now does it
>>121034013
Slight correction, the Leo has more 100 HP than T-90 but that doesn't save the Leo either. They really shafted the Leo line for retrofits and upgrades. No more FCS is a huge bummer.
>Playing PvP in this game
>ever
PvP needs a lot of fixing and balancing before it's at least a little playable. As it stands now, PvE is the only thing this game has.
The gameplay is generic, the playerbase is worse than WoT cause all the shitters who think it's WoT's fault they suck moved there, the grind is hilariously bad and they had the genius idea to lock upgrades behind artillery XP (you know, the class that has hard fucking cap on how many a game there are, ensuring long-ass waiting in line to even play)...what is the reason to play it again?
>>121034541
>PvE is just an absolute nightmare where you have to play as a TD, as the BMPs/BMDs autoaim at your turret ring with HE.
good thing I haven't bought any after the dragoon
>>121034690
but pve has its own issues too
I find it a little more fun than pvp though
>>121034554
T90 gets an armour retrofit senpai
Assuming at least he's ground out the Sheridan, he'll have it, and 9.4% at 2200 is more than 100 hitpoints
>>121035174
at least you don't have to team up with 14 idiots doing things that defy human logic in every way.
>>121034541
I've notice that the TDs are pretty useless in PvE but I normally only play PvP so that's not a big issue for me. Still a bummer that the Leos are pretty meh from the sound of it. Maybe I'll grind them on the side for the seks design alone. Thanks for the heads up anyway.
WHERE'S THE FUCKING MAJOR PATCH
>>121036073
TDs tear shit up in non-city PvE maps if you memorize the enemy spawns.
>>121036312
Goes for PvP as well though. If you got a good spot you can spot quite far and shoot at shit from 600m plus without getting spotted. Most of the spots are becoming obvious but it works rather well until now. TDs are fun for me right now and I hope that the trend will continue that way but who knows.
buying gold/premium
y/n?
>>121037951
>buying gold
I'm still holding off on it until OE says anything about their policy for premium tanks.
If they're going the WG way of never nerfing them it'll be okay, if they're going to do it like Gaijin I wouldn't bother.
>>121038337
I was referring more towards buying premium time, I don't really give a shit about premium tanks right now.
>>121038420
As far as I can tell they're quite fair with their usage of premium currency. XP transfer rates are reasonable and economy seems to be sensible. I shekeld out for one of the 35€ packs as they hold a pretty good price/value in my view. Way better than WG and Gajin at any rate.
>>121037951
pricey for me but yes premium is good
>>120932509
I'm glad I'm not the only person who has experienced this.
It's not limited to just missiles either.
Regular shots sometimes disappear upon contact with an enemy hull.
>>120984108
I always get other arty bitching about counter battery. They're the ones who sit still.
>>121037951
just grab CE, best rate
You can save a prorated $19.90 each on the lower packages or a very nice savings of $49.82 on the Emperor’s package.
>>121040156
Some people just shouldn't play arty
>Hit some guy
>Doesn't move
>Hit him again
>Doesn't move again
>Hit him for the 3rd time
>Finally moves up
>Check how dumb he is
>Shoot at the exact fucking position he was hit three times
>Kill him
>Drink his tears
>>121040303
I usually do counter battery until we've killed all their artillery so I can have the luxury of sitting on my ass while dropping pianos on people's heads.
>>121040292
The CE tanks don't look interesting.
>>121040415
That's how you're supposed to do it desu.
Get rid of the only things that can hit you, and then click.
So when do you guys think Obsidian will start to go full pay2win?
In a few months?
In a year?
They surely have to somehow milk the players.
>>121041697
don't remind me of early gaijin
I almost forgot
I had fun with both the Sheridan and the Begleitpanzer, now I'm 5% through the Stingray and I already want to slit my wrists. Does it ever get better once you have the top ammo and some retrofits? Are the Stingray 2 and XM8 worth it?
>>121042649
>I had fun with both the Sheridan
You're insane.
>>120889936
not one of us, regards eu gup
>>121043463
No, really, I liked peekaboing on unsuspecting enemies and blowing away half their health with one shot, or hitting the turret of a hulldown T-64 for 300+ damage and seeing him panic. With the Stingray I just feel incredibly irrelevant to the outcome of the match.
>>121040292
>you will earn 75% more reputation and credits.
Is this referring to the premium account? or is it added on since you own the CE?
>>121042649
>he had fun in the Shitidan
>he doesn't like the Dongray
McFucking Killyour'eselves 20 Pack with 2x Sweet'n'Sour Sauce.
>>121041697
literally just put PvE behind a premium paywall and the game is fixed. the retards get put into the MM bolstering its numbers and those that actually want to contribute can buy premium and play PvE. maybe restrict it to 5 free games a day, everything after that you must have a sub
>>121046028
>No, really, I liked peekaboing on unsuspecting enemies and missing from 50m
ftfy
>abrahamic nerfs in 0.11
forums on suicide watch
>>121047398
Yeah, right. They'll nerf the health by 50hp and in exchange remove every frontal weak spot.
>>121046583
So what does make the Stingray so amazing?
>Statistically, the worst tanks currently are the T-72A (poor armor)
More like bugged armor
This game needs a tank inspector
>>121048024
that one dude in that thread the other day said to play it like a TD and it's actually working wonders
>>121048024
Pretty much this: >>121048336 You get a fast-firing, accurate gun with good alpha damage, high mobility, and if you use cover and relocate when under fire, you can dish out a hurtin'. It's accuracy on the move is great to speed past cunts and rek them.
It's an acquired taste, because you play it quite differently from an MBT, but it does work nicely.
I love the Warrior.
It's so utterly garbage in every single way. It's awesome that they introduced the token system so I can do a complete 180 away from it and get the T-90MS instead.
>>121034406
max speed =/= accelaration
>>121050704
>token system
Yeah, I'm totally looking forward to a tier filled with nothing but retards and people in whatever is fotm at the moment.
>>121051107
I don't give a shit.
4/6 MBTs on each team are already the current flavor of the month, the T-90.
When everyone plays a broken piece of shit tank it will be nerfed. Better yet, if OE just says "))))) working as intended" then I still win.
>>121051216
I have no idea how that many people are already at tier 8. I've been playing for an hour per day on average since release and I'm only at two tier 5 tanks.
>>121051372
Here's an idea of how many EU players have tier 8s.
The most I've seen in the queue is 32.
>>121051573
Maybe they should rename [SKILL] to [AUTISM].
>>121045582
You aren't in EU gup.
It's full of ponyfaggots and Redditors.
I doubt there is someone in that clan that frequents this general. No sane person could endure that environment.
>>121051782
[T-90] or [FOTM] would be better.
>>121051573
theres like 5 t8s in queue right now for NA
Holy fuck is the BMD-1 OP.
Or maybe it's just me coming form bad tanks like the AMX-10 and the Leopard 1.
>>121052908
It is pretty OP considering MBTs have paper armor at that tier.
The BMD-2 is pretty meh.
The Bradley is pretty shit.
The BMD-4 is hilariously OP.
The Warrior/Ramka are literally just uptiered tier 6s.
How do I get into platoons with people from /vg/?
>>121055573
>have a feminine dick
>post pics
Post name
Post region
get invited to battalion
ask in chat doesn anyone want to play in some tier
don't get any response
keep playing alone
>>121055953
Meant for >>121055573
@121056092
ign:vonluckner
na
5'7" black american 140lbs
I want into gup please
>>121055953
ign: Tioga
na
5'5" hispanic 212lbs
>>121056370
>>121056761
Sorry, but I asked only about name and region.
Saying your race, how much you weight and how tall are you makes it possible for you to be a subject of discrimination, and to protect your well being I cannot let you into any of the battalions.
pls no stunts
>>121057205
You loved it you dirty slut.
>drive in water
>counter starts
>can't get out until counter hits 0
>die
wow, even WoT wasn'T this bad
>>121057506
It's the exact same system as WoT you dimwit.
>>121057506
>teammate drowned too
wow
>>121057506
>unironically managing to drown yourself by accident
Just. Stop. Playing.
So when are we getting camo paint unlocked, I wouldnt mind using it on per map basis or maybe it
>>121061876
Could depend on per map basis but then thatz not how its going it looks like it so we will it be wierd to see arctic camo paint on desert level like desert camo in woodland maps on BF4 because lazy devs
What abput other camo too?
It doesnt matter i guess
>>121016042
she is danish, you do not want to hear danish accent.
Should I bother getting the Emperor edition?
>>121065359
No.
>>121065313
>danish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk
>>121062410
>lazy devs
Come on, in BF4 players choose what camo do they use, and some people just want to have their tank full white.
>>121065690
what about the Lightning/Typhoon?
>Statistically, the worst tanks currently are the T-72A (poor armor), Starship (generally not very effective), Challenger 1 (poor firepower), Leopard 1A5 (underpowered in general), these vehicles will be buffed
>Statistically, the best tank was the pre-nerf XM1 that was clearly overpowered (even post-nerf it has more than 50 percent winrate) and the M1 and M1A1 Abrams tanks that will receive a slight nerf in 0.11
BURGERS DEMOLISHED AND 9/11'D
NAZIS REJOICING IN THE STREET
>>121069341
>T-72A will finally be competitive
>Challenger 1 might be able to fight tier 6es
>Leopard 1A5 will still be a carboard box with a gun on tracks
>M1 and M1A1 will just get their models fixed (a buff) and their HP slightly nerfed
Nobody wins except for America.
>>121069787
I thought the whole reason the M1 and M1A1 had disproportionately high HP pools was to make up for the armor bugs, especially on the M1A1 with the commander's hatch taking critical damage.
>>121070409
That is, in fact, the reason they have so much HP.
finally do good in the 300
>lose
>>121070617
>9v9 in tier fucking 4
Holy shit NA must be dead.
>>121056761
>na
no dice senpai, EU only
>>121069787
The T-90 is still the best tier 8 MBT.
>>121070976
That much remains unchanged.
>>121070617
>9v9
Why aren't you getting 15v15 battles?
>>121067214
Oh shit not BF4
Meant BF3, where you had desert camo tank on Caspian Border, instead of woodland camo on wood maps and desert camo in desert maps like BFBC2
Really BF3 was DICE's laziest title
doing all right
>>121072021
well atleast if you fill your tank with waifus you can pretend someone loves you
>>121070698
It really is. I'd guess there are under 1k online right now. Maybe not even over 500.
>>121074308
it was popping during the weekend. weekday prime-time is around 7pm to 1am central anyway.
>The third Dealer will come in one of the upcoming updates. It will feature Asian and East/North European vehicles
AW YES
JGSDF Soon (TM)
>>121075779
>proof fin's are infact chinks
>>121075876
What's some cool shit Sweden and Norway can bring to the battlefield anyways?
>>121075940
The CV 90 from Sweden's end.
I hope they give you the option to use 30mm, 40mm, or a 105mm/120mm cannon.
>>121075779
I'm a bit surprised Obsidian hasn't put any Centurions in game yet. That tank has seen so many upgrades it should at least be able to provide tier 2-4 MBTs for shitskin's euro line.
>>121068015
Depends on if you plan to stay for the long term. The Lightning/Typhoon/Emperor packs are pretty good for their value, but only pay off long term. The T6 prems are great for grinding commander xp and credits and aren't actually that bad.
>>121075779
Sweden has the Infantrikanonenvagn 105, aka "let's put a 105mm on a 15 tons light tank, say it's a tank destroyer and call it a day".
>>121076821
Might be because it started development in WWII and they want to avoid even coming close the to WWII.
>>121077528
was obviously meant for
>>121075940
>>121077540
Nah, that can't be it. The T-54 started development during WW2 as well.
>>121070698
NA isn't dead ;^)
everyone is just playing PvE :))))
>>121078134
Meanwhile EU has a minimum of 30 players in tier 4 even during absolute rock bottom hours at 5-8 AM.
slot floppies when
>>121078293
na is filled with literal anything that is hard they hide children. there are more players sitting in queue for pve than there are pvp and i fucking hate it
>>121075940
>>121078448
I'm playing NA now, PVE queue has half the players of PVP
>>121078293
>Meanwhile EU has a minimum of 30 players in tier 4
>they're all SPGs
>>121078569
>takes twenty minutes to get into a game for PVP and the game isnt even full
>takes seconds to get into a full PvE game
hmmmmm
>>121078308
>Hybrid electric drive
The thunderbolt has that too, I wonder if it makes a big difference in acceleration
>>121078448
reminder that the top clans in this game are all pve clans. this is infact a pve game
>it will take 1 million reputation plus another 500k for the token to get a tier 9 vehicle
>the grind doubles every tier
>realize this means tier 9 vehicles will need 2 million reputation plus another 1 million if a token system exists for tier 10 as well
>grind doubles every tier still
>tier 10 tanks will need 4 million XP to be grinded out completely assuming they do not start off with all modules like they do in WoT (yes I know there are exceptions to that rule, you know what I mean)
>>121078595
Freja-san is very popular.
>>121079431
>10k rep per play minimum
I don't see a difference
>>121079650
I doubt tier 9 tanks will earn 3k rep on an average match, just like how I don't think tier 10s will earn even 5k on an average match.
By AVERAGE I mean at least the tank's own HP in damage.
>>121079891
What is your highest tier now?
>>121079431
So was this token system a way to make it even grindier to get to tier 9 and beyond?
>>121078735
Just what the thing says guy.
>Question: Will the game physics allow for vehicles to roll on to their sides or even roll upside down?
>Answer: By default, the engine's physics will happily allow vehicles to flip over or roll onto their sides. We have actually put a lot of work into the physics system to prevent vehicles from rolling onto theirs sides or flipping over.
>tfw OE spares me from pic related
>>121080276
that shit is funny though, what a shame they try to prevent it
>>121079431
Imagine spending 3 million XP on the Challenger 2 LEP only to find it's the same tank with all the "life extension" modules requiring hundreds of thousands to unlock and making no difference anyway because it still has a 100 mm frontal weakspot and the same gun that struggles to penetrate tier 8s, now with fictional ammo with an astounding +14 mm penetration.
>>121080048
8.
I probably make around 4k rep, with premium, on an average match. Could be higher, could be lower, I don't see a way to check average reputation earned.
Also I do around twice as much damage compared to the health of my tank, so I don't think 4k rep is actually what the average tier 8 player earns.
>>121080712
I really feel bad for people who play Brit tanks. I don't know why tank games shit on them and make them perform garbage, it makes no sense.
>>121080712
The entire premise of using that line for anything other than using the Ariete to get a T9 token is terrifying.
>>121081179
>I don't know why tank games shit on them and make them perform garbage, it makes no sense.
Because Britbong tanks are literally garbage.
Do you think we'll ever see an Armored Warfare like game with modern warships?
Engaging at massive distances, swift and speedy hydrofoil missile boats, maybe even submarines
>>121081903
>>121081903
modern naval are literally cancer spam
so you might as well make ace combat mmo clone
NA
On the Taifun what are the best retrofits to add? i was thinging just adding as many damage ones since the reload bug is still around or getting one of the ones that increase hull traverse speed
So which tier 9 will be the shittiest?
My money is on the BMPT-72. The Draco looks horrible but it has the odds so heavily against it that it must have a trick up its sleeve to make it not the worst.
>>121083385
m1a2 it's gunna have 500 pen max because americans can't make tanks.
>>121082957
I'd say something that max's reload speed, but I honestly have no idea what kind of stats the taifun has.
>>121083536
That would be the germans, as it is a german gun.
Meanwhile I will be in my thunderbolt with a 120mm autoloading American gun~
>>121083645
6s reload, high pen/dmg, no turret, 72kph, great acceleration, great offroad climbing, accurate.
Stack damage and reload. 0.11 will address the reload bug, according to the dev Q&A.
>>121083536
That's still more competitive at tier 9 than the Challenger 1 is at tier 7.
I have never had a good run on Narrows
>>120886661
freja is better if you're slow as fuck because of her bonus to crew damage. Juan is better for things that shoot and relocate.
>click battle
>back to garage
>start spotting
>back to the garage
>start driving after round start
>back to the garage
>wasn't even killed by another player
>20 losses on one tank have back to the garage in common
at least they restarted the premium time.
>>121083762
>gun
Nah, fatburgers refused to update from the 90s model because they already had spent all their money jet fuel for their tanks.
>>121085139
>still haven't reset my boosters
Just playing with premium makes me feel like a poor by now
>>121083385
>Draco
This is the safest bet. It's like a Warrior in that it has no missiles but it's twice as large. It's supposed to have guided shells but I doubt that will happen.
The only way it won't be shit is if it gets like 500mm of pen or .30 camo or something.
>>121086536
It's a 76mm "autocannon," it will at least have some awesome firepower.
Keep in mind the Begleitpanzer at tier 5 is much smaller, faster, is tracked, and has an ATGM, yet it still has 1,6k salvo damage with comparatively decent penetration. And that is only a 57mm cannon.
The Draco was supposed to have, what, 18 shells? So imagine 18 shells times 250 damage or something.
It will at least the better than the BMPT-72 which will just be an uptiered version of an already uptiered vehicle.
Unless it has an absolutely godlike autocannon or its turret is as good as immune to damage, it will be shit for the fact alone that it's a Terminator 3 tiers higher and has to be grinded for.
>>121087140
Forgot to mention that the Draco's turret is supposedly unmanned, whereas all of the Warrior takes full damage or even critical hits from its center-mounted engine.
It's pretty hard to be shittier than that.
>>121085384
Oh are we not talking about penetration anymore
And you can run an abrams on anything flammable friend
>>121079431
number looks inflated as fuck
but it will probably faster than wt or wot
>>121087325
Whether it's unmanned or not, it's both gigantic and unarmored, so other AFVs will be able to just spam shit into you with no problems. All of the same problems as the Terminator but like 4x larger. It would be like driving around with a Wiesel on top of your tank.
The Warrior at least has a sort of low profile. The Draco won't be able to use most normal cover.
Too much has to go right for the Draco to be good, and it's far more likely that it'll be a clunky piece of dogshit like the Centauro 155. They can't even balance the Warrior, and it's far more conventional in size and upgrade path.
>>121088323
>but it will probably faster than wt or wot
Yeah I estimated I'll probably get a tier 10 in about 750 games or so. Most people take about 1000 games to get a tier 10 in WoT.
The XP and credits double, but your earnings also increase linearly, unlike WoT where they plateau after tier 7 and start dropping at tier 9/10.
>loading screen shown leopard turret can actually bounce shell
they're lying, right?
>>121088514
All true, except
>The Warrior at least has a sort of low profile. The Draco won't be able to use most normal cover.
This works in favor of the Draco, sort of. While the Warrior takes full damage no matter where you shoot it, the Draco's turret is a larger turret and since it will take reduced damage it will effectively have more HP than advertised.
The Ramka has effectively 2,650 HP if all shots penetrate and damage its turret only, whereas full penetrating hits to its hull means it has only exactly as much HP as shown.
The Draco will be huge and paper, but if it has 2.5k HP (estimation due to the Warrior's similar paperness, size, and tier) it would have 4,150 HP if all shots go only into the turret. But let's be nice and say it would be a 50/50 split, so it would have around 3.4k HP then.
And like I said, you'd think the Draco would be a piece of shit just by looking at it, so they have to have prepared for it by giving it something super special.
>>121088813
I've bounced exactly one shot off my Leopard 1's turret.
Does Tioga play this game?
>>121089825
gtfo tioga
>>121089825
vonluckner plays it.
So yes.
>>121089825
post photo ID to join his can
>>121089097
That's a good point, but unless it gets really good camo/spotting characteristics to match, it'll probably just be a pinata for enemies it can't see.
I agree that they'd have to give it something super special, but in my experience, more often than not things that need that treatment don't get it.
DRACO BIG
just got t-80, it's exactly the same thing as the 72a except a better gun and no obnoxious leopard 2 turret.
I am liking this russian line, the playstyle is staying consistent and the later tanks are all roughly better versions of the previous
>>121092663
Just wait until you get the bullshiT-90.
>>121092808
game is literally sponsored by manufacturer of t90 will never ever be nerfed engoy tovarish))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>121092663
>I just got new russian tank
>its the same as old russian tank but with better gun
russian tanks general
>Roughneck
>Rushing to D7 in a BMP-3 and killing an XM1 before they can get to town
>>121082957
Aim Time/Damage, Aim Tie/Reload, Accuracy/Damage
It's fast as hell as is, so you might as well go full force into sniping power - faster aim time is important to get max use out of the sniper bonus.
>>121093189
>Pipelines
>north spawn
>rush the dune overlooking south spawn's approach to the refinery
>be BMD-4
>send a nuclear warhead into the ass-end of an M1 and crit him for 1300 damage
>light his engine on fire with the HE autocannon
>kill him
>repeat the process with a T-80 trying to climb the hill so he could start camping
>they both rage at me in chat for like five minutes
>>121093664
bmd 4's missiles need a nerf
>>121089925
Is he in a clan?
>>121089825
Tioga060 was permanently banned for teamkilling someone from FOXEY and then shit talking the devs
>>121093960
>single missile
>cannon-fired, not a seperate launcher
>invalidated by any sort of APS nearby unless you manage to disable all of them
>can only reliably hit weakspots on flanks
Sure, because if I wanted a flat Wiesel, I should definitely have ground out a flat Wiesel you turbochudster
>>121094340
Thats all well and good
>does half a tanks health in damage
does any other tank in that tier do that?
>>121094641
>at T7, HEAT shells begin to do 500-600+ damage
>BMD-4 has 1200 hitpoints
>get grazed by HEAT, take half your hitpoints in damage
>if you manage to land your ATGM, you take half their hitpoints
you know what sempai, that does sound kind of balanced
>cb arty in the first minute of the game so I get to do whatever I want
>killed von
>made a leo 2av sperg for the rest of the match because I fired 9 shots at him
Good times
>>121094641
>does any other tank in that tier do that?
T-80 and Centauro 120 can two shot all of the AFVs that tier with average or near-average rolls.
>>121087140
BMPT-72 might be funny because it doesn't have the upper-hull weakspots of the Raka/Terminator. No grenade launchers, no big-ass drivers hatch. Just a T-72/T-90 style upper glacis all the way.
>>121094641
>does any other tank in that tier do that?
The T-90 can do the same a tier higher with its HEAT shell.
Oh by the way, HEAT shells are better than ATGMs in the sense that:
>they don't have longer reloads than main cannon rounds
>they don't have to be guided
>they don't have to be stopped to be fired
>they don't get fucked by APS
>they don't give the target a huge flashing warning
>they don't cost way more than other shells
>they travel almost 4 times as fast
Anything else I'm forgetting?
Oh wait, this was about ATGMs supposedly being bullshit. I lost track.
>>121097451
>>121095454
>>121095194
So should a Sheridan's missile not do a fuckton more damage?
>>121096462
And it's guaranteed to have an autocannon just as shit as the Ramka because "hurr it shoot fast, that means it good!"
And it will still take damage via its turret because ))))) only MBTs get to have armor
>>121083385
Draco is going to be the T9 meme tank that everyone hates on. It has stupid good pen and damage and it being an AFV it has stupid levels of camo for how big it is. you can straight up mag dump and kill any other T9 in 12 seconds.
>>121098317
>It has stupid good pen and damage
Proofs?
>>121097554
Sheridan already two-shots AFVs.
>>121098471
from russian forums, the best shell
>530 pen
>250 damage
>1 sec between shots, can be increases with Freja
>4 seconds to load a shell into the magazine
>it uses an autoloading system where in theory you can continuously fire if you fire slow enough
>its turret does take full damage though
>>121099295
You fucking what
Link that
>>121099295
That's not a proof, post a link.
>>121099295
Briefly checked the general discussion page on the Russian forums, saw nothing at all.
Why would someone lie over the internet?
>>121095450
nice rez cb faggot
>>121100091
>he doesn't cb
>he doesn't know the joy of sitting in one spot and holding down left click firing rounds at max rpm at one mad faggot
>>121100381
On some maps you can get that joy without CB though. Reacto for example has spots in both spans that allow you to fire into the dam area while being protected from cb from the enemy spawn.
>tfw you are the only one in a T8 game that can hit a moving target
this game isn't hard, but PvE enables shitter to get up to top tier with ease then shit it all up for everyone. i should honeslty just take a break and come back in a month when t9 is out
>teammate complains about shit teammates
>does the worst of every in the game
>gets called out the next game by someone that notices
>says he isnt even trying ebcause his team isn't
loving it
>>121101410
>wiesel is right next to me
>Have a zillion fps cannon so i should be able to blap him
>lol no half a second delay
>have to lead a fuckton
>like a 1 in 6 chance my shell will just vanish anyways
>purposly roasting greenertribe and co
amazing
i keep takin your engine out because im using the "really shit" commander Ionnis senpai)))))
>>121106427
Does Ioannis have an italian accent?
>>121106731
i dont know, i have audio turned down all the time to listen to jazz
>>121106731
Probably not, I'm kind of disappointed that commanders don't have unique voices.
>>121106942
Hey, I like listening to jazz while playing too.
>>121106950
That sucks, given his surname I would've expected a comically thick and muffled eyetie accent.
>all these people adding me to platoon with
>they are all the shitters that do nothing in the game and get carried
>they genuinly expect me to just invite them and they sit around doing nothing and get free wins
yeh no lmau
>someone thanks me for shitposting
how 2 git gud
>dat rack sound
so good
Did this miss
because i dont think it did
>>121116694
Looks like the actual projectile only juuust scraped his hull.
>>121116952
But surely it would continue on, and you would see it continue and eventually impact behind him
>>121117018
Maybe your client thinks it connected but the server didn't.
It looks so close.
>sitting in spot for spotting and to get early shots with BMP3M
>friendly Ariete just comes right up behind me and pushes me out of the spot
>"STFU NOOB IM THE T8 I WANT THIS SPOT"
im amazed to be frank
I literally cannot get a victory in Leo 1A5.
I can take anything else out and win, but selecting it and clicking battle is a guaranteed loss.
What the fuck?
who up
>>121119530
Should've won the war ))))))))))))
>>121123256
Nigga, I'm already at work for two hours
What am I in for
>>121124690
NO. DON'T POST HER.
I'M REMEMBERING.
>>121125831
how is the ramka, i have the warrior and i am wonder if it is worth buying a t8 bmpt
>>121126061
Kuuko is a good girl!
>>121126648
Do you not know what happened to her VA?
>>121124315
West Germany was on the winning side of the cold war, what are you on about?
>>121126687
I don't give a shit about some 3D slut dying.
>>121127461
wat?
>>121128372
AW has less than 100 viewers on Twitch, I guess?
Understandable, since this whole genre is fucking lethargic to watchand sometimes play.
>>121128860
yeah it would be fun if they made like a single player campaign
>>121129052
I'm disappointed we don't have more in-depth singleplayer vehicle games where you can customise and build your own tank/mech/whatever.
The ones that do exist are incredibly niche and/or extremely outdated and buggy, particularly on PC.
>>121129052
yeah a campaign like MGSV would be could with having a mother base and such
>when kevin platoons consistently drop their spaghetti against you
when does this game get hard?
>>121129585
Tier V+?
>>121129730
tier 8 games faman
>>121129779
I dunno, then.
Enjoy your 60% winrate.
>>121129808
72% squad
>>121129867
>Playing in a squad
That's basically cheating.
>>121129917
never leave home without your squad less you tryna get piledrived by the t90 late night platoon or any braindead kevin fotm platoon
>>120860674
:^)
>>121130331
>Commander nearly at +999,999
WHAT HAPPENS THEN, OBSIDIAN?
>>121130410
you can choose to prestige him
>>121131991
What's the benefit in that? Higher percentages on the skills?
>>121132036
>falling for b8
follow me to the gay bathhouse
>>121132127
What's the benefit in that? Bigger spreading diameter on my butthole?
>>121130331
>Wiesel
>Paladin
>Nearly-renowned T90
And I thought I played a lot of tanks
>>121132701
Gotta get value out of that good goy time.
>>121132757
>208d
Yeah, tight schedule.
>>121132881
and those boosters son
>designate target is still bugged as fuck
10/10
Playing the bmd2 now and loving it. Pls tell me the Bradley is just as good
why is the AMX-10P so comfy
>1700 avg dmg per match
The T-90MS will be such an awesome tank.
>a platoon of 3 [SKILL] T-90's running around and losing your team's game three times in a row
between the t4 AFVs, which one will be of good use for PVE grinding?
My mouse keeps cursor keeps forcing itself to the right of the screen @ the hanger, ive tried restarting client, PC, unplugging mouse. Cant find anyone else having this problem unless they have duel monitor setup, im only using 1.
have 150k freexp, where to use it?
>Leo1A5
>T-72
>BMD-2
>>121135595
The Swingfire needs getting used to as it can only shoot missiles, of the remaining two the BMD is superior to the BMP.
>>121136514
playing the bmd now
I am quite surprised that the atgm can be used while the heat round is loading or vice versa. Still, this and the atgm needs some getting used to.
Does this apply to the sheridan as well? or is it differently loaded?
>>121136824
Sheridan fires the ATGM from the gun barrel so you can't be reloading the ATGM while firing regular ammo.
>>121136905
I see. Sounds quite the disadvantage.
What are the best vehicles in the game so and why?
>>121137204
Abrams.
It does everything.
>>121137332
only the Abrams?
>>121137204
armata because sponsor
>>121138145
>T-14 will stink of Russian bias
>T-15 will be a huge fucking turd
))))
>>121115319
>dat rack sound
>webm has no sound
How does one achieve this level of nigger?
>>121137174
It is, especially in PvE where the bots are less responsive. It's actually a new feature, it wasn't present in EA. Switching between weapons meant full reloads.
>>121133969
Shit's been broken since EA4, never even seen a dev comment on it.
Same with the bugged commander skills.
Are the EU servers down?
>>121139548
oh im really enjoying it now
what crew skills should I get for the gunner/loader?
>>121137204
If the devs are to be trusted the XM1, M1 Abrams and M1A1 have really high global winrate. The last two will be nerfed.
>10 minutes to go on my command center level 5
Oh boy here we go
>take my xm1 to a pvp match after getting the modules from pve
>all of this buttmad
holy fucking shit
>>121140786
And people tell me it's shit now.
>>121140757
>can't upgrade it past level 5
Welp, time to spend these materials on something else then
>>121140973
>hit lower plate
>ded
>hide lower plate
>win
>>121141378
According to SS the base system is a very rudimentary version of what's planned for down the line.
Is there any info on when the patch might hit that introduces the loot system? Or better question, will that be in with the next bigger patch?
>>121141661
No and no.
>>121141745
Well shit. Thanks anyway.
Someone make a new thread already, we're on page 7 and autosaging.
>>121141661
next patch is going to be in like 2 weeks. both abrams will have their pen nerfed to 400mm to reflect real life stats hp will also be nerfed also 100% critical full dmg to gunners periscope will be applied to stock armor package. T90 will have it's lower plate fixed and gunhandling improved. Anything other than mbts will also be removed.
>>121141880
>Anything other than mbts will also be removed.
Not enough. They should ban anyone who's played anything but an MBT to be honest family.
>>121141880
>Anything other than mbts will also be removed
This is the wet dream of ever MBT player.
wtf is "Penalty reduction" on technology retrofits?
>>121142606
The function of the corresponding module is not impaired so much when damaged or destroyed.
For example, enhanced sight interface reduces the penalty applied to optics when they're hit.
BMD is comfy
COMFY
>>121142606
Sight - if shot, less bad looksies
Kevlar - if shot, less HE damage to internals
do you unlock insane pve difficulty at t7-8 or did they remove that completely
>>121145065
It's disabled at the moment
Fukn skitz m8 just hit 60%
Is it true that if u use negro loader you get faster rld speed?
HE Frag please.
>>121145991
dude layers lmao
Is the Challenger 1 and Chieftain good tanks?
>>121150260
literally the worst
>>121150471
some euro please make a decent thread
>>121150471
Now that's fucking cancer.