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Order shall prevail!

>try to play that C2C game
>turns take like 7 seconds to process
>it's still the prehistoric age

wew lads

think it might be time to let it go

>>120863895
Theres an option to speed it up but it freezes the game till the ai is done.
What turned it off for me was the all the buildings.
Did like how you could make alot of buildings in one turn and units but then again it was too much.

Reminder to remove the roulette next OP, it's not working.

>>120865353
just play civ #404 till its removed

This Halloween skin will go after midnight right?

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That evil well does it again.

Is there anything comfier than dropping several nukes at once on heavily populated enemy cities?

>>120871775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8WEaGSSd58

You know, despite Shaka's high loyalty score he seems really hesitant to ever be friends.

It's like fuck, I haven't settled within 50 tiles of him, I've fought the same enemies as him, I've traded with him, I've made world congress proposal that he likes. Fuck, short of going to ulundi and giving him a blowjob in person I don't know what it'd take to please him.

Far easier to just nuke him or something.

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Well it seems I'll only be able to get one more city on this island

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Feel like everyone is going to attack me now.
Can beat the dwarf back but without mana this will be a nightmare.

>Play on small maps to try and cut down the turn times
>Turns still take forever because the likes of Genghis and Montezuma have swarms of units moving around constantly
Oh well

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Just need a few more mages and more mana.
Might swap over from God King to Magocracy, hope locust swarms is doing enough damage.

>>120881954
>Armageddon Counter actually going up

I have to play with Last Days on and it often doesn't do anything anyway

Then again I haven't played that modmod so...

>>120883148
Sheaim tend to drive it up if they live long enough, if they become strongh they will get it all the way up to 100.
Angaad took most of their cities.
Elohim might be driving it down now.

Can also spread and remove hell terrain via magic rituals and global enchants.
using a global encahnt to spread forest while I can aford it with faith.

>>120881664
Take out the city-states

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Oh god this might not end well for everyone.

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Does anybody know where or how to extract the uncovered background image from this menu? I'm trying to get it as a wallpaper but can't find a version without the menu over it. Assuming the original CG they used for it isn't floating around somewhere.

Oh thank god the skeletons are gone.

I wonder if they felt obligated to make Siam a Civ because they added Angkor Wat

>>120893165

More of a civ than america

>>120893256
Funny how the only American Wonder is something the French made

>>120893165
Come to think of it, Canada's not a Civ despite there being the CN Tower.

And honestly I don't think we qualify, so not complaining.

>>120893419

You're on an American wonder right now, friend~

>>120893801
The Internet is a technology not a wonder, silly

>>120893165
Sydney Opera House? Two natural wonders as well. Two of the best.

Canada and Australia might just be the only two nations with a wonder but no civ

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MONTHLY REMINDER

Any news on ES 2 after the announcement?

>>120899505
No, but EL is currently beta testing Steam workshop support.

>>120900564
>there might finally be mods that work more than 1 at a time, and dont take multiple minutes to turn off or on
done tickle my dick and then just say it was tease

>>120893419
>Broadway
>Pentagon

>>120901018
I'll tickle it so hard you ejaculate blood.

http://forums.amplitude-studios.com/content.php?598-EL-Modding-Steam-Workshop-Closed-Beta

>>120901121
Oh right

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tfw i have no clue which of my 100s of mods broke this fucking game

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This map is nice and tight so it should be a whole more fun.

>>120901139
well hell yes then
imo, the biggest thing holding back modding was the fact that you could only have 1 single mod active at a time
while this still implies a limited number, it should help

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Oh damn thats in a great choke point.

>Download this Caveman 2 Cosmos mod for civ4
>this reddit as fuck menu song

this is really triggering me senpai

>>120901963
What mod? I recognize it's FFH2 but I don't remember researching spells

>>120902170
Master of mana 1.42.

>>120901649
a mod that messes with the city view. I had that problem and it was caused by advanced barbarians I believe.

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Ai still manages to spam cities.
Improvment limit for each city does mean they won't be too bad either.

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>>120902064

Jesus. Looked it up since I never played the mod. Fuck. If someone did that just for shits and giggles that'd be one thing, but having that play in the goddamn menu when you try to play the game, nope. Nothin' doin'.

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Post earliest Radios
>1565
>Manage to get the World Fair bonus to finish off Rationalism
>Get Radio

Man, I love being an entire Asia away from anyone else's antics. France could kick my ass if he could get his units across the Desert of Douchebags, or the Sea of Shitheads.

>>120905895
I got a Diplo victory on turn 260 on standard speed, and since I had globalization I assume I got radio pretty early. I definitely didn't save great scientists

>>120905895
>getting world fair early

never happens for me. lately, all of their proposals are just embargos and lux bans.

>>120894082
Technically, there are quite a few civless wonders
>Petra
>Al Hambra
>Red Fort
>Sistine Chapel
>Leaning Tower of Pisa
>Sydney Opera House
>CN Tower
>Prora (kind of)
>International Space Station
>Hubble Space Telescope

and if you want to get really pedantic
>Taj Mahal (Mughals)
>Temple of Artemis (predates "Greece")
>Colossus of Rhodes (depending on whether Rhodes is considered Greek)
>Mausoleum of Halicarnassus (depending on if a city closer to Jerusalem than Athens can be considered Greek, and it also predates "Greece")
>Neuschwanstein (was built by the Bavarians, not Germans)


There's also many civilizations that don't have their own wonders
>Japan
>Rome
>Persia
>Assyria
>Brazil
>Aztecs
>Poland
>Portugal
>Spain
>Morocco
etc etc. Meanwhile Greece has like 20 wonders, depending on what you consider Greek.

>>120906468
>Implying I didn't find everyone first
Do you even population spamming your way into the Renaissance before everyone enters the Medieval? I've had better runs where I get Astronomy before the Crusades.

>>120906628
I don't know what population spamming is.

>>120906698
>Temple of Artemis
>Hanging Gardens
>Feed the World
>Swords into Plowshares
>Internal trade routes giving food
>Granary, Water Mill, and at least 3 farms per city
>Get a combined total of 70 population by the 1,000s

Internal trade routes are the biggest contributor to the overpopulation. It's possible to get 30 population in a city before you reach the Renaissance. I've managed to hit 50 in the Industrial as France.

>>120906865
>getting those first two wonders

what difficulty are you on?

>>120906918
>Implying you can't get Artemis and Hanging Gardens while the AI scrambles for Petra, Lighthouse, Library, and Zeus

>Implying anything past King difficulty isn't bullshit
>Implying I don't mostly do this in online matches, which is far more balanced than doing AI matches

>>120906865
>>120906918
>>120907164
Honestly, getting Temple of Artemis and Hanging gardens isn't tremendously difficult. Even on Deity and Immortal it's possible to get those early game wonders (although actually it's more dependent on how the AI is feeling as opposed to rushing)
The more difficult matter is getting your own religion, because the AI seems to really not like picking Feed the World and Swords into plowshares, let alone together.

>>120907164
You don't need to make excuses for yourself.

>>120906865
>Temple of Artemis
Goddess of love
>Hanging Gardens
Meritocracy
>Feed the World
Pagodas
>Swords into Plowshares
Cathedrals
>Internal trade routes giving food
External trade routes giving science
>Granary, Water Mill, and at least 3 farms per city
Colosseum, Market and at least 3 mines per city
>Get a combined total of 70 population by the 1,000s
me 2 bro. me 2.

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What pantheon do I get? None have been taken yet.

I'm new, so far things are going well and the Shoshone seem like they are OP as fuck.

>>120907707
Desert Folklore if you want to rush to a religion, one with nature if settling Mt Kailash if you want one city to be a super faith producer, sun god if you want a lot of food from that wheat

>>120907707
Try for Desert Folklore. Kailash will give you +9 faith a turn with One with Nature.

Sun God will make that wheat produce as much food as a natural wonder before you even get fertilizer. Flood Plains Wheat is fucking broken as a food source.

God King is also an option if you just want a little bit of everything. It basically gives you another half-palace.

>>120893543
How Poland qualified and tou didnt

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2 horseman, great.

>>120907814
Sounds like wheat is the best option.

Also, why the fuck is Dido such a cunt? I got two composite bowmen from ruins and bullied a city state for money, now she is talking shit to me almost every turn.

>>120908002
Poland probably has a long and rich history whereas Canada has a distinct lack of history. It's like we cling to that time we were really awesome in WW1 and that time we were really awesome in WW2, then get sad about the fact that we treated Natives and Asians like shit, and the Canadarm I guess.
>>120908071
Dido is a cunt, but bullying CS isn't exactly a super nice move to begin with

I wonder what generates more food, Venice with 22 puppets sending naval food trade routes to it, or Siam on a huge map getting food from 24 city states that are all inexplicably maritime

>>120907707
you're going to want things related to tiles near your cities or cities you very soon plan to settle. that or other misc bonuses you see yourself working toward
so here, fishing boats, wheat, or desert tiles would be alright choices without being too complex

>>120909223
Is the +1 production from fishing boats pantheon good? I'm thinking either Sun God or One With Nature, but if the fishing boats one is good I'll definitely grab it.

>>120909373
if you settle several coastal cities, since coastal cities (generally) get less production, its a nice way to offset that, and/or get higher production you would normally, earlier
you can see here, depending on where you settle, you might have an easy 6 production, 4 of it in your capital.
it just generally depends on your tiles, in this case, fishing boats could be a good choice, but then its useless if you settle that inland city near all the wheat, or an ocean without resources

similar to folklore, its going to help your capital ALOT, and maybe a second city, but not all your cities are going to get it
same with wheat, but that one generally is in more tile types, so it should be alright

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Oh for the love of the gods.

>>120909951
can you explain what's happening here, buddy?

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>>120911002
Sheaim caused armageddon, destroyed most of the units apart from demons and undead.
Calabim and Sheaim then started to roll everyone.
I tried to take Ljoslfar land, they used their world spell, waited for the ents to die.
Took a city of thiers only for the few units I had to die to the 2 horseman that wreaked them for the past 80 turns or so.
Wasn't much I could do with the armageddon rising that quickly.

>>120909951
>tentacle dragonoids
I don't want this to become a thing.

>>120912938
Its a demon not a dragon.

It's been a few years since I've played CiV. What mods would you recommend? Do the Communitas mods still work?

>>120915031
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=474400406
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=431253630
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=363117420
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=417527204

>Find Dido
>Throw headphones out the window before she can start raping my ears

tired of this baby killing barbaric language bullshit

>>120909951
A V A T A R
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O F
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W R A T H
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I remember the only time the AC got to 100, I had to throw Losha Valas twice at it plus a monstrous stack of extremely skilled vampires to take it down

fun times

What is the mod in Civ V that makes units viable for a longer period of time without making the game pace and production times insanely long?

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>>120860571
op, you really liven up the place. Keep at it!

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Time to end Grigori then attack bannor.

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>GalCiv3
>Gifted difficulty
>Altarian
>nice starts, few nice planets
>fucking Drengi next to me
>have one shitty ship compared to his 10
>after 20 turns of nothing happening, finally getting my production planet up and running
>the fucker comes with dropships and takes it
How can people even play this shit? You would need to get super lucky to compete with AI on anything other than normal.

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Time to wipe out armys of bannor with big fireballs.

Anyone know where I can download the latest patch with the Spoils of war update for pirated BERT?

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The Pocatello playthrough was way too easy, it was my first game and I felt like I already won by turn 100. Restarted and up'd the difficulty to normal.

What pantheon should I get? Sun God seems like the obvious choice, the only one that was taken was Stone Circles.

>>120919885
Not released yet.

>>120919885
Second this question.

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Think I'll give Sheaim a try next time.
Os-Gabella the hero seems like she would be fun, an unkillable mage.
Might also do the end of wiinter so the Illians shit on everyone.

>>120923568
>Think I'll give Sheaim a try next time.
Be sure to make Order your state religion for shits and giggles.

>>120907279
I had a game not long ago where noone but me picked tradition. Hanging gardens is so damn good.

>>120888406
Yo its there on the artist's tumblr man, help your self out, http://tcfischer.tumblr.com/post/113350805991/the-starting-screens-for-beyond-earth-these-two

Anyone here playing with the community balance patch for Civ V ?

How good is it ? Should I get the full balanced patch or just the core patch ?

>>120928724
It's the community unbalance patch.

>>120928896
Oh well.

What exactly is unbalanced ?

>>120920515
Sacred path.

>>120894349
oh neat,thanks

>>120928724
Full CBP is probably going into the mods hall of fame for all that it's accomplished. Not playing with CBP is like not having any arms, it's that simple.
With arms you can do a lot more things than someone who doesn't have any arms, and you'll be happier just from having arms.

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>Denouced at turn 72
Here we go.

>>120863895
It's way too complicated for its own good.

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>>120902064
God damn that's fucking triggering.

>>120902064
I didn't really mind it at first.

But hearing it again and again and again and again and again and again and again made me hate it.

>>120941798
Marinate your angus

>>120860571
Which Civ IV mod is this?

>>120949838
see >>120902692

Has the new rising tide patch been uploaded anywhere yet?

>>120920515

sacred path, all that jungle

>>120951484
I also want to know this, can't find a torrent or download anywhere

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IT'S HAPPENING!
http://forums.amplitude-studios.com/content.php?598-EL-Modding-Steam-Workshop-Closed-Beta


It is now possible to launch several mods at the same time depending on their type (3 exists: extension, standalone, conversion)
It is possible to change the textures of existing units (similar to the AI and Simulation debug tools, a unit body debug tool has been added to help)
It is possible to create hand-crafted maps thanks to an external open source software

>>120951484
>>120956026
see >>120921521

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>>120957949
When will it be possible to make SoB's not shit?

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>>120957949
>It is possible to create hand-crafted maps thanks to an external open source software
I am now imagining maps where every hex is an anomaly. Or worse, perfect symmetry no fun allowed we e-sports now.

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Playing Civ 4 and trying to expand as fast as possible so I can claim as many rsources as possible.

>>120957949
Will addons work with online co-op? Do they already? Been looking into this since you cant mod online CiV.

>>120962343
I assume they will once they get the workshop working.

>>120960146
I'm surprised it hasn't already happened.

how do i not be shit at BNW?

>>120969906
Prioritize science.

Fuck man the Ottomans are so goddamned boring.

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>>120969906
BNW is easy. It's EL that's hard.

The fact that you're supposed to leave certain techs behind each tier is so confusing to me, and having to buy heroes or commanders or whatever for my armies is also aggravating.

Combat too, ugh.

I'm sure it can be fun for whoever can figure it out but after a dozen games I give up.

Civ 5 is about 100x easier.

>>120971094
>Civ 5 is about 100x easier.
Civ5 fanbase in a nutshell.

>>120971250
Whatever, I play these games to relax.

EL is stressful as fuck.

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>>120971478
>EL is stressful as fuck.
Have you tried playing an easy faction like Vaulters? EL is supremely comfy.

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>>120971094
The original looked so much better.

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>>120971069
Their UA is pretty lame since you don't normally throw pre Renaissance era units to capture units since only the Caravels can go into the ocean outside of your borders.

I had a fun game with their Janissary pushing into a Great Wall Jungle terrain Babylon to stop them from snowballing.

>>120973234
That's the only faction I've played so far.

Comfy is the last word I'd use to describe it.

No matter how easy the setting or how much I invest in units, I'm eventually surrounded on all sides by the other factions who crisscross all over my borders and have way stronger armies.

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>>120941798
You call that coveting?
Now this is true coveting

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>>120902064

>>120978540
Hiawatha is definitely gonna declare war on you.

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>>120906526
Time to comment on as much of that list as possible

>Alhambra
>Red Fort
I'm pretty sure Spain and India are in the game
Sure, if like you said you want to be pedantic you can say Moors and Mughals (?) built them
But that was a list on its own

Rome has it's own wonder, more or less, Circus Maximus
It's National Wonder though, so yeah

Is Hallicarnassus further away from Athens than Jerusalem? The Aegean Sea isn't that big, is it? Also, in those times Greek meant a culture, not a country. Alex wasn't a Greek, ut Macedonia was Greek, or rather Hellenic I think.


Brazil is O Christo Rendetor
Japan has Himeji Castle

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Most southern spot on the map.
Oh god me and Alexis going to mop up who doesn't die to Auric Ulviin.

>>120978969
Tbh that was from a few months ago
They all declared war multiple times, but I held the line, Barcelona was settled near Cerro de Potosi, which meant I could field a large army early on
And I was lucky as fuck and could get Petra in Seville, which was desert hills and lots of sheep, which meant I could shit out large armies as well

That game was one of my most enjoyable games though
Playing as Spain, seeing nice lands to settle which are inhabited by Native Americans.
Just settle there anyway and kill them all
Hiawatha was the first to strike, I destroyed his army and took his border town
Pocatello followed soon after and learned just as Hiawatha what it meant to go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line
Hiawatha decided to try his luck and hoped I had lubed up my anus
Unfortunately for him when people try to do shit like that I snap.
I burned everything he had down, which lead to Cusco and Pocatello attacking me, which lead to their demise as well
And then I became Isabella, subjugator of Native American scum

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Speaking of Auric, hes right next to us.

>>120980394
Why won't you play as fedora tippers?

>>120980658
What civ is that?

>>120902064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL6wlTDPiPU

>>120973234
It's really comfy until you get to the higher difficulties and the AI outclasses you in the most unfair of ways

>>120960567

But anon, all Amplitude games are e-sports!

>>120971094

EL was fun until I got caught in a permanent spiral of defeat by trying to get a diplomatic win on hard as the drakken. My games all either ended up with me being rotisserie'd by two necrophage factions, or managing to survive and then lose because warmongering vaulters conquer the entire world and I can't get enough diplomatic points from a single other faction to secure a diplo-win. It demoralized me.

Man, the Venetian Great Galleas would be unbelievably powerful if most coast wasn't 1 tile thick

>>120984671
>tfw no fundamental point studio to counter them

>>120961479
what mod? C2C?

What are everybody's favorite civs to warmonger with in Civ5?

>>120991386
polandball

>>120991386
Germany

>>120991386
Venice. I'm serious.

>>120991386
England. Longbows are delicious.

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I may have taken "Wide" a little too literally

>>120994269
>implying your EEZ is that big

>>120994375
It's the thought that counts

>>120994616
People's Republic of China please go

>>120991386
Korea

>>120994857
Those islands are mine

>>120995035
They aren't even real islands! They don't exist at high tide!

>>120995320
They do however exist half the time, which rounds to existing all the time

>>120995432
You got me, I'm sure that'll hold up in international court when you're seizing fishing vessels for "piracy."

VGL signups for /vg/ virtual divegrass are up again.

Any interest in putting the /civ4xg/ team on the pitch?

http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_5

>>120893419
...The pentagon?

>>120995747
To be completely serious, I bet China's got enough political clout or whatever to be able to do that, and then for everyone else to go "...Yeah, fine."

>>120995959
If it helps: Our current and sort of outdated roster.

Please share your new and improved memes

>>120997369
... is here:

http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//civ4xg/

>>120997203
That's the idea. They want to be able to declare a sphere of influence (probably over all of east Asia). They have a veto on the security council anyway, so they can do whatever they want to some extent.

What faction in Endless Legend is the best and why is it Drakken?

>>120997798
Amen

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Well I'm pretty fucked, but at least having a mage and enough defence will mean enough skeletons to stay alive.
Going to end the world because fuck em.

>>120999237
>buttfucked by everyone
Yeah, apocalypse now

>>120997645
Some might call it a... Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere

>>120999365
That does have a nice ring to it, doesn't it?

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>>120999321
Going to just go for armageddon, keep getting skeletons so theres no troops being able to be built.
So it pretty much comes down to the planar gates.

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Got the axe.

>tfw promoting your horde of battle-blooded pictish warriors into lancers

I two shot your knights with drill/shock rank 3, march, cover and blitz? And I can move after attacking? Oh, baby. Your life is over.

>>120991386
I like Attila and Germany isn't bad, either.

>>120991651
Why? Poland's unique unit sucks and mounted units aren't really that great.

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Want my city back.

Why is civ 5 so much easier than civ 4

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Sheaim is broken.
Forget about pyre zombies, mages are just so much better with legions of skeletons that keep rising up from dead enemies, provied they're killed by a unit and the turn after you get a new skeleton.

Endless Legion is surprisingly cool, but I just started playing it.

What are the downfalls of it?

>>121005794
If you meant Endless Legend, the downfall is the tactical combat which really breaks the pacing of the game. I'm tired of developers putting that garbage in their grand scale games. It's stupid.

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I've been playing Beyond Earth for a few days now. I'm enjoying but I find it so bland, and after listening to Three Moves Ahead I can put into words what I find so empty about it (using their words).

Here's the episode by the way. I'm sure BE's failings have been discussed to death on these generals but its nice to have a few really intelligent guys summarize what's wrong with the game.
https://www.idlethumbs.net/3ma/episodes/a-sterile-future

Looking through their most recent episodes, it seems like they haven't touched on Rising Tide yet. i'm hoping they bring it up in an upcoming episode because their discussions on the Civ 4 and Civ 5 expansions were really enlightening.

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War decides to send my army to oblivion.

>>121006149
Once you know what you're doing with the combat, it goes fast.

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This isn't going to end well.
Though its good that they're going to take tongurstad from me.
Don't want hell terrain just yet.

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Khazad just took 2 cities from Calabim in one turn.

Anyone know about this bug?
I was playing Civ Beyond Earth and one of the factions asked me if I wanted to go to war, but I couldn't click any of the options. I clicked all 4 options and nothing happens. I can't press esc to get to menu either. I have to alt+f4, which gives me, you sure? prompt
This happened before when I was asked by another faction if I wanted to enter a cooperative

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The horseman continue to desolate the lands they fly through, Seems Auric has been saved for now.
Malakim are sure to make a move on the weaking Calabim.

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Most of the world lies in ruins.

>>121006871

I just dunno about Three Moves Ahead. I listened to their KoDP episode the other day, the entire thing, and I remember nothing about it other than nearly falling asleep. And it was the perfect game for me to listen to shit, since I'm interested in it, know the basics enough that I'd understand some shorthand about it, but don't know MOST shit about it so almost everything should be new. And yet it nearly killed me.

>>120893165
>Siam
>Angkor Wat

Nigga what?

Angkor Wat was made by the Khmer (aka Cambodians).

Anyway, Siam (aka Thailand) was put into the game for diversity more than anything else, and definitely not relevance. Also, Khmer was already in Civ 4, so they went with another Southeast Asian civ for Civ 5

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All four of them being evil.

>>121014487
My mistake. I hope you can see where the assumption would be drawn with the Siamese UB being the Wat, and things like Borobodur being added alongside Indonesia

And it's a bit like how there was the Mali in Civ 4 but there's the Songhai now.

>>121013593
the problem with 3MA is that they're really dry. if you can put up with it then it's real good but if you find it at all boring then you'll find it REALLY boring.

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And of cause Luchurip have none living units.
Os-Gabella died and is back at the capital.

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Ohhhhhhh fuck off

This is the third time you've decided I wasn't good enough to be my duchy and I'm very tempted to raze the field and roads I built for you.

Lets talk about ships.

Namely the designs of the top level ships in BE.

Patrol Boat:
Edict > Vortex > Cannonade > Baron > Argo > Reaver
Honestly though, all of them except the Edict kinda sucks

Gunboat:
Dreadnought > Poseidon > Countess > Vindicator >>>>> Wrath > Mako
The first four all look damn good, the last two are just oversized patrol boats.

Submarine:
Eradicator = Shroud > Leviathan

Carriers:
Bastion > Shepherd > Hydra

>>120991386
Britain, i love the longbowmen and the SotL

To top it off they have the best theme

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Oh forgot to use this.

>>121005794
combat is slow when you dont auto, but generally, you only need to actually control maybe 50% of them, and even then its not much different than autoing
also (and this isn't a big one) some people dislike the endless winter, but the bigger thing is that its more resource intensive during winter, so if you're on a low end pc, that can kinda fuck you over
i think someone on the forum even mentioned that winning in winter crashes the game for him, since it requires even more things to load at once

>Think about downloading this MoM mod
>Eight billion versions of it

fuck man what the hell

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The world got more fucked up after I destroyed everything.
Barbs counqered half the world.

>>121023432
Heres the only downloads of Master of Mana that matter.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=13828078#post13828078

>>121024097
That's the stuff, thanks mate.

>>121023940
>100 AC
>World is a shithole
>Os-Gabella still lives

rip waifu's dreams

>>121024179
Theres no more gone to hell victory.
Theres epic destiny though and its different conditions for each civ.

Immortality. Os Gabella reach level 15.
Demoae adivate me, summon 100 demons to erebus.
End of all things.
Armaeddon count at 100.
Viel spread to 20 cities.

>>120981127
Grigori
> Cannot Adopt Religions nor research Religious
Technologies

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Not as effective as the first one.

>>120991386
Germany, by far.

>fucking up your enemies with ragtag barb hordes in the early game
>fucking up your enemies with terrifying Blitz Warfare Panzers in the late game.

Hanse is pretty nice too.

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>>120905895
Must have gotten it around turn 170 as I already have research labs finished in most cities

>>120991386
Persia

It's easymode with +1 movement and 10% strength on all units. On top of that siege and melée units are actually decent with that extra movement.

Who here is using Acken Mod? I find myself actually loosing games to the AI now.

Link:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=d72c6205d7ea63b5f5477606bcc3886b&t=550671&page=30

>>121026267
Does it work well? how is the AI beating you?

>>120973234
I don't like the winter mechanic in EL
I feel like I'm always struggling to break even and can never find a comfy groove.

I get that that's the whole point of EL that your empire is fucked because the world is ending, but I don't find that comfy

>>120991386
Aztec
>slaughtering everyone and eating their flesh and bathing in their blood makes me cultured and sophisticated
>being peaceful is barbaric and uncouth

>>121028854
>do too well early game
>your army's upkeep is like 40 at turn 20
>forced to disband entire army + hero

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>>121028004

Either by attacking/teaming me early or by running away with game from the other side of the map.

You are very vulnerable to the AI's massed melée units early because of the nerf to cities and ranged units. To be safe you have to have blocker units fortified in front of your border cities, which hurts you early economy and expansion a lot.

If you can do that you can still lose to an unmolested AI on the other side of the map that quickly expands to 10+ cities. Warmongers create larger and more coherent empires and do better science-wise because of the changes to science and AI-priorities. To compete with them you have to build a very wide or tall empire and you are behind the curve on that if you invest in early military.

Pic is me defending against ottomans (thanks to hoplites).

I have dropped one level from deity and it is till more of a challenge =)

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Pic is me after defeating the filthy ottomans. My economy is shit, I lost petra, I'm in war with (runaway) Rome and Carthage and Germany is rexing unmolested.

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That was pretty super fun with everyone around me attacking me.
Then when I have a decent doom stack to roll everyone the horseman show up and wreak it.
3 civs pretty much got wiped out by barbians.
Using my Civ's spell pretty much destroyed everyones units, shame I had next to no units to end things more quickly.

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>>121029072
Jesus christ.

> you can't go Tall in BE, ever

wow, they really messed that one up!

>>121030840
Well you sorta can. With Aquatic cities.

But then again, I don't know how the hell aquatic cities work.

Is there anything that fixed the horrible ugly ass civ4 interface, specially the way borders look and their colors and also the semi-invisible colored texture applied over your fucking territory?

Fucking the Roving Clans.
>market ban
>market ban
>market ban

>>121037948
Completely shit otherwise, too.
>units have no strengths
>mercenaries can't be retrofitted
>don't actually have enough gold boosts to be jews

I'm guessing they exist solely to spite people in multiplayer.

>>121030840
You reach a point where the time spent getting new cities up and running isn't worth it, and making military to take other peoples cities is usually better than making your own.

>Adventure gameflow
>Disable outpost settling

should this do the trick to capture the age of wonders 1 feel?

>>121046552
I mean, disable city founding.

>>121030840
You can, but Tall is pathetic compared to Wide, just as most 4x games
In Civ V tall is better, but only because going wide will cripple you most of the time and has a small safety margin

What are good map scripts for Civ V
PerfectWorld creates comfy looking continents on the map, but other that it's suffering, you get fuckloads of just one luxury all around you, no ruins, and all the civs are just around the corner, leaving one or two isolated to just run away by themselves, while you have to fight for every square inch

>listening to 3MA's episode titled "The 4X genre"
>that description of Alpha Centauri
Goddammit, now I have to play it. I've avoided it until now, but I have to do it now.

I bought Beyond Earth at release and noticed that I only have 30 mins played, is it possible to refund still since it's less than 2 hours played?

>>121051006
Not anymore

>>121048265
I use Tectonic, but it creates pretty boring looking maps.

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Speaking of SMAC, it's time to play Planetfall, the SMAC mod for Civ 4.

What Civ should I play as for my first playthrough? Thinking either Mongolia or Shoshone.

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>>121058885

>>121059725
rollins

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>>121014487
>Anyway, Siam (aka Thailand) was put into the game for diversity more than anything else, and definitely not relevance.

>only power in southeast Asia to avoid European colonization

>conquered the Khmer Empire after emerging from almost thin air

>irrelevant

It's more relevant than half the other civs in the game.

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>>121059725
oy vey

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>>121049175
>Goddammit, now I have to play it. I've avoided it until now, but I have to do it now.
You haven't lived till you've played SMAC.

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Man, never thought I'd actually put the power to cross mountains of Carthage to good use
Serves you right, Kamehameha!

>>121066826
It's such a situational ability that I don't think it should have the -50 health for ending turn on a mountain. Good on you for finding a use, though.

>>121066826
OVER THE ALPS PERHAPS

>>121048265

continental plus

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>>121066826
>>121067175
>>121067696
Seems like brutally destroying Kamehameha wasn't the way to become one of the cool kids
Still worth, I hate that Hawaiian piece of shit
Communitas, and PerfectWorld both make nice mountain ranges, so the ability is not all that bad actually, I am actually making use of it

Oh yeah, in case you were wondering:
I did not denounce him beforehand
I killed him in one swoop
I conquered Honolulu and Tenochtitlan which he captured 3 turns before I attacked
And yeah, I did all this on purpose
Fuck him, and his hypocritical ways

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Anybody else do themed Civ games? What have been your favorites?

>>121059725

JUST

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>>121069920
Say what you want about the AI being inept at war
But damn, this attack right at the capital is pretty impressive considering the huge distance they have travelled
Oh well, in 5 turns I will turn them into the next Great Barrier Reef

For some reason in practically every game of Civ V no matter what I set the map size to, it always seems to put me way too far away from the other AIs. Am I just unlucky or am I doing something wrong? I play with 12 AIs.

>>121074441
Be grateful
I usually start with 3 breathing down in my neck

>>121074441
What's the problem ? It's an avantage

>>121074803
>>121074828
It gets old, and it is annoying if I want to go to war. I travel across the world, and by the time I get there my units are all out of date and get fucked.

>>121075376
>not playing on marathon

Can somebody explain this for me
>Be at war with 6 others
>Unhappiness of 25, because -52 due to tourism
>Gear up to strike Venice to conquer the Forbidden Palace as a last attempt to secure my nation
>Everybody except Venice sues for peace in my advantage
>I accept, just to relieve some of the pressure
>Suddenly my happiness is 0 and the Tourism is -33
>This happened in just 3 turns
How can this happen?

>>121078203
Was one of the nations at war with you of your same ideology?

>>121078203
Any extenuating circumstances, like one of them was Brazil who was in a golden age and then not?

>>121049175
It's just one of the best video games ever written.

I shared the same experience as the hosts. Alpha Centauri was lifechanging for me. It's not just a good 4x game, it's also a great piece of video game art.

>>121058441
Good luck figuring out the tech tree.

>>121059725
Here a-we go!

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Might give the Illians or Scions a try.
Theres also Calabim into Aristrakh.
Theres also this hidden civ, the Unblemished but that might be from old code.

>>121078778
>>121079083
No and no
But everything is allright now
Gearing up to rain nuclear armageddon on Arabia, because I have a certain dislike for Arabia. [SPOILER]Their AI is one of the best[/SPOILER]
And just settling wherever to make one huge empire

>>121086248
>[SPOILER]
Nice

>>121084623
Well seems I'll just make a scenario instead.
No city razing and no settlers sounds fun, theres still the event that can give settlers.

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Playing venice
>I got fed up by aztecs and songhai constantly harassing my city state allies and me
>Hired ottomans to bully them
>I couldnt resist both of them at the time
>ottomans annex the weakened songhai and aztecs while I'm busy brownnosing the rest of the city states to be my delegates
>ohh shit
>Now the ottomans are being dicks
>They slapped around england, spain, indonesia etc
>I created a monster who everyone likes like some mental women love their abusive spouse
>if I attack ottomans to bring them down a notch, I'll be hated by everyone
>My insane amounts of delegates from city states would get destroyed
>My trade vessel network in this shuffle map would get buttblasted instantly, so I could poorly hold up gpt

Oh well, I already have over 55k saved up and all I need is to wait a bit for some aircraft carriers and this map is practically done. The rest of them are still in the caravels, frigates at best.

Nobody is even denouncing the ottomans for razing their cities, and are cussing at me for doing so...

>>121089628
can't get away with nothing

Have the endless wars been patched in BERT yet?

>>121075757
I want to play on marathon, but I just don't have that kind of time

>>121066048
seriously morgan is a sociopath

Why does it seem like the EL AI has a hard-on for cavalry units? I've seen Vaulters make entire armies of Dawn Officers and Broken Lords making only Ryders.

>>121066048
>>121102284
I came into BE thinking it would be a simplified/streamlined alpha centauri, instead I got Civ 5 reskinned and gutted.

Where is the eco damage? Where is ENVIROMENTAL IMPACT AS WELL AS DATA JACKERS?

>>121102453
it's like what they said on Three Moves Ahead

Beyond Earth lacks character. You can't step to SMAC, which was practically perfect in every way and a great video game artistic statement.

>>121102749
In many ways it reminds me of genre analysis in film, especially of revisionist films rebelling against the classical film of a genre. SMAC represents a large and intentional step toward deconstructing the 4X genre, but no one has really followed up on it. I couldn't really say whether that's due to commercial reasons or the relative youth of the current period of many studios working on 4X games. Once people get tired of the standard 4X formula, we'll get concerted innovation. But not until it's been done to death.

>>121006871
>each episode is an hour long
>discussions have enough depth that I have to focus on what's being said to follow it
Why oh why did you have to introduce me to this

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>>121104037
Worry not, there's only 300+ episodes.

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>declare war on Cassie to liberate Woozy
>Pocketcoochie DoW's Cassie too
>take an expansion
>march on Beijing
>Cassie gives Beijing to Coochie
>my units are ousted to the other side of the city, cut off from home
>Coochie DoWs me
>Pocketcello DoWs me for the 8th time this game

>>121106381
This is why AI allies are hateful, not because diplomacy is shite

1-5 aow3
6-0 ffh

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>Rushed dynamite for ez wars with artillery
>declare war on world super power siam
>go through taking all of his cities with op artillery
>after i've finished butt raping him, i left him with 1 city left
>entire world declares world on him
holy fucking shit

>>121108754
well, shit.

1-2 human negromancer
3-4 dwarf dreadnought
5-6 frostling mage guy
7-8 elf warlord
9-0 halfling rogue

>>121108882
Guess he wasn't all that popular to begin with and your thorough crippling provided them with opportunity

>>121108882
AIs can be spiteful bastards. They're like sharks, they smell blood in the water.

up

>>121122131
This is an imageboard you stupid banana.

Also 3 tiles to the North west of the leftmost recommended city spot gives you a Mountain/River tile with access to additional Ivory and Cotton.

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Where do I settle? I declared war on portugal already for a settler and worker. Shooting for insta4wat.

I'm thinking hills by wheat/mountain/ocean, hills by mountain and cotton, hills 3 left of horses.

>>121122240
Yes I know I'm stoned and going between too many websites and getting stoned, I made my post commit sudoku

>>121122631
Like I'm torn between making a space filler city or not.

Alternatively I could try to found 3 cities and then invade lisbon with composite bows to 4wat.

>>121102218
What? Of course you have the time. Just take the time you would have finished a few games in and combine it in to one ubergame.

I'm thinking about it and I like the 3 city and invade thinking, double coastal cities to get food trade ships going, and one city on the mountain/hill/river to the left of the horses, burn porto, take lisbon with hopefully cultural buildings there but if not eh.

hey, roulette doesn't work anymore

>>120863895
I had a friend who played a whole game and he said it took over 100 hours and that he'd never do it again

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Should I do something like this?

Sidon has Mt. Kailash and Dye FYI. Intending 3 cities > Kill Portugal and take Lisbon > make fifth city.

>>120906526
>Neuschwanstein (was built by the Bavarians, not Germans)
But the Bavarians are the most German of all Germans.

>>121108882
Had the same in my Carthage game
>Everyone declared war on me
>Marched towards Venice
>everyone except Venice eventually sues for peace
>I absolutely destroy Venice and start to descend on their last holdout
>everyone who first sided with them against me decide to turn on the Venetians as crows on a corpse

I haven't played Civ5 in a while, so I've installed the Piety and Prestige and the CBP mods to give it another ride.
I have noticed however for some reason city-states are a lot weaker than I remember, like by a lot, their cities barely grow to around 7-8 pop and most times they barely have any garrison around.
Is it a side effect of the CBP or did they get nerfed hard at some point ? To me it looks like they're not getting the difficulty bonuses the AIs get from playing on Immortal.
I clearly remember each city-state being able to reach at least the 20 pop mark in most cases, sometimes even as high as 30.

>>121100871
There was a big patch released a few days ago, yes. Now when you want to negotiate peace, you get a big list of things to pick from, like resources, cities, techs and whatnot, each with a cost attached. The more War Score points you have, the more stuff you can afford, and the AI has to accept. You can choose to take less from them if you want, in which case they'll accept your generosity.

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You're fucking ridiculous, Siam.

How much of a pussy am I for winning only cultural victory with agressive AI raging barbarians and max civilizations available? I got invaded few turns before i won and if continued playing after winning entire country was conquered or in ruins from fighting

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>>121133274
thats nothing
try playing against washington
that knight was 2nd unit i ever made, and barb units never stop giving xp

>>121134218
That mountain range tho

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>>120995959
>>120997369
>>120997520
Should've just posted a picture.

For someone who's only played unmodded BNW and is now getting bored of it.

What mods freshen up the experience without adding tooooo much?

>>121133274
Hey, why not? I'd settle there. Metric fucktons of fish and there's no other prime real estate to go around looking at the map.

By coincidence, I am also currently playing as Siam.

>>121136278
but what are you gonna do about production?

>>121137979
It's called lighthouse + harbour + SIX ENTIRE SOURCES OF FISH

>>121124672
I would rather make a inland river city than settle on the coast on that south west X. But otherwise seems legit. Can you steal dyes and kailash from Sidon with one great general? If so might be nice to make a city there too.

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Got DoW'd by Rome and Byzantine when I still had 12 turns left on SS Cockpit and 6 turns left on two other parts. Realized 12 turns was way too long so took the cash4part ideology and started saving. Had to dismantle my cities, selling a building each turn. Unhappiness reached 10 so sold a city to England for 250 gpt and fur. England declared war immediately after but unhappiness OK anyway due to having lost unhappiness from that city.

Got the 2,5k for the Cockpit and was able to survive the 6 turns for the two last parts to finish.

Deity, Contents, rest default (quick animations).

>>120991386
Russia on a large map 22 players 20 city states is best warmonger

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So I've only played Civ 4 BTS vanilla, and Civ V with a few minor quality of life mods.

Which are the first full fledged mods that I should check out for either of them?

Fall from Heaven for instance. What's good about it?

>>121145567
*Civ V with BNW, I should add. Don't want anyone freaking out thinking that I only own the original Civ V

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>Comfy on Immortal
>Havent played in a while
>Pangea, standard map size, epic game pace, my usual setup
>Get tight as fuck maps, weird blobs of mountains
>Barely space to settle 3 cities
>Lost my capital before I got NC up twice in a row now
What the fuck is going on? Can't seem to be able to adapt to this...

>>121147481
Maybe scale it down a notch in difficulty while you get back into it

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Firaxis should have made a space colony game instead of this BE Starships nonsense.

I want to know how the SMAC bases were built. The GURPS sourcebook doesn't say much.

>>121147481
>weird blobs of mts
my new map fetish

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>go ultrawide
>perfect for order
>everyone else is too
>everyone goes autocracy
>get brandenburg gate
>and the inevitable autocracy combat boosts
>already have 3, 5 unit armies with march and blitz
>just researched artillery

remember, it was you who asked for this

What's the minimum start required to get Stonhenge (and so a fast Religion) at Deity?
Is it a matter of having forests or is it a matter of having 2-3 great production tiles? Any examples?

>>121150831
Faith natural wonder as Spain.

>>121150831
Try playing with a faith based civ like the Maya or Celts. If you really want the wonder, your best chance would be a salt start with a couple of forests to chop.

>>121151079
Acquire a natural wonder that gives you reading comprehension, he asked the minimum requirements to have a chance at SH.

>>121152223
Well, i wanted to get a religion with Byzantium or Persia, so civs with no inner faith generation and no salt starts.
Maybe a better question is: what tiles/hammers are the minimum requirements to get a fiar chance at Stonehenge at Deity?
Is it 1-2 salt + 2-3 forests? Any more common tiles possible?

>>121150252
I know this feeling. If the AI want an autocratic world, it is your duty to give it to them.

>>121152548
Alright, ideal scenario would be a hill start, as much salt as possible, marble, some forests, free tech from ruins (for quarries), free population from ruins, and the tradition policy.

>>121153001
You can settle on marble for the increased wonder production without needing masonry.

>>121153001
>hill start
easy
>salt
Closest tile that gives almost the same benefits? Salt isn't that common, is it?
>marble
Doable, needs rerolls but it's perfectly doable
>forests
easy
>free tech from ruins
While i'm quite efficient at snatching ruins even at deity (i get at least 5 every game), i don't think it's possible (unless i reload until i get the right ruin bonus) to rely on a SPECIFIC free tech.
>free pop from ruins
easy
>tradition
easy

But again, i'd like the MINIMUM requirements, so that i can know when to reroll a start or not with civs that i need them to get a religion.

Thanks in advance dude.

>>121153998
Minimum requirements depend on who is in the game, how much they prioritize stonehenge, and how quickly they can get it. So you can only find this out empirically.

>>121147481
Perhaps you got unlucky with the map generation senpai

I just installed the religion DLC and brave new world.

what the fuck man

>>121157408
The game is actually good now, I know it's a huge change.

>>121157823

it seems really fun, i'm just trying to get used to the new faith and tourism mechanics.

also which civ has the best passive hability? so far im liking the japanese's

>>121159905
Korea

>>121159905
Poland, Korea and Babylon are the top three. Egypt, England, Ethiopia, Inca, Persia, Huns and Maya are also top tier.

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Things are fairly peaceful so far

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Stupid ass cultists arrive on Chiron and take one of my best cities.

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Place your bets

>>121166539
Shit what happened to high rock ?

>>121167573
That first yellow climbing line? That's my line as Dwemereth. Don't know what happened to make it jump up like that but I've lost ground

what difficult do you guys play on?