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Old thread: >>120357787

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

Read the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/t9Af7NJY

Future:
>Spring: Citadel expansion & cap rebalance release
>Winter: Ship rebalances, new frigs (navy ewar, t2 logi, t2 ice miner), new t2 MJD dessies, missile disruption mod
>Nov 03: "Parallax" - jump fatigue 6x shorter, entosis regen, killmarks
>Nov 02: Crimson Harvest event end
>SOON: "Brain In a Box" release

Past:
>Oct 26: Citadel Manufacture http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/building-your-citadel-one-block-at-a-time/
>Oct 25: All-Out all out of K-Space
>Oct 25: Capital Reworks: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/reworking-capital-ships-and-thus-it-begins/
>Oct 23: This Week 99: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=452067
>Oct 20: Crimson Harvest started (deals on plex/sub, ingame dosh) http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-crimson-harvest/
>Oct 15: SP Trading: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/exploring-the-character-bazaar-skill-trading/
>Oct 06: Try the beta launcher
>Oct 06: Hydra/Camel AT collusion confirmed, prizes confiscated, Smug Legion new "winner"
>Oct 01: First "Focus Group" will be discussing T3Ds
>Sep 29: Battlecruisers get Foozie'd nice and good.
>Sep 24: CCP wants EELEET PVP roleplayers for Amarr Succession Trials (lol)
>Sep 14: CSM 2015 minutes http://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/meeting-minutes/
>Aug 13: Citadel FAQ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mEbMx9xUXje3KH4AppvcjSSoALUVtVEaK6ZZ-zy2Lrs/edit#
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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citadels will be cool
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I gotta be the only one that wants Walking in Stations to be added to/finished/developed.

I like spaceships all right, but I'd like it more if it was a space game rather than a docking simulator.
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>>120665908
going from the profile pictures, I'd say ask Josephine Amelana for the fit.
I didn't ask what the fit was when she posted it, but she did say that that ship died shortly after the screencap because of dropping transversal to a battleship.
the prospect can get a sig smaller than a capsule with expedition frigate leveled high enough.
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>>120666951
can't wait for them tbh fam
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Battleship buff when?
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>>120667132
The first part of your post contradicts the other.
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>>120667916
Not if I want to sit in a comfy space station in space while doing space things, like jewing people who are to lazy to fly away from the station I'm sitting in. Selling tritanium for 100% at least more that the common 3 jumps away price.
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>>120667356
It still has some cap problems and halos are expensive, but thanks for the idea, it's worth a try.
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>>120668239
I mean we're living in space right now but I wouldn't call myself a spaceman or anything
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>>120668660
If you want to get into semantics, were IN space but not IN space.
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>Amarr
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>eve is a pvp-only game
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>>120673634
the entire game revolves around pvp
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>>120673674
The entire game revolves around the market
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>>120673820
Guess what drives the market?
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>>120673820
the market is dictated by supply and demand

the PVP-ers are all fueling the market with demand
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>>120674059
But they can't pvp without the supply!
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>>120674398
the industrialists compete with each other to provide the best product on the market for the cheapest price
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>>120674398
Good point, that's where market guys come in. But their shit wouldn't be worth much if no one had a reason to buy them.
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>>120674398
But the suppliers are players competing against each other to make money
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>>120668514
It's working, lawl.
Only the missiles hit but it's tankable.
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>>120675250

using booster?
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>>120675250
what a hero
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>>120675882
It's on sisi you nerd
>>120675767
No halos, no links or drugs, expedition frigs to 3. Getting a stable orbit was the only hard part (if you do it before they spawn you're golden).
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>>120676165
you're a sisi
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>>120675250
fuqqqq haha looks like you've made back the hull and some of the fit already. I'm more concerned with how you're going get out of the site while maintaining transversal. might take a bit of manual piloted spirals to get pointed the right way without dying.
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>I browser reddit and repost images from there
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>>120666821

>that image

I haven't seen her for 2 days, what happened /eog/? CCP-dono didn't ban her, did he?
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>>120667775

>domis, geddons everywhere
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>>120677179

All you need is some custom warpout safespots in line of the orbit rings plane, maybe?
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>>120675250
you dont even need that much tank, instrumentals are easy and you can do it in vitals if you clear the webbing frigs first and fit for cap, the fit i have is 0.3gj/sec stable after sleeper nuets and i didnt even use t2 rigs
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>>120679942
I'm using agility rigs so I can have a tighter orbit. Sig and speed are your tank, stopping or steep turns and you're gone.
The way you warp in seems very important in this site (Instrumental). If you start <30km with the battleships they will web and kill you, but if you are >60 they won't manage to get close and you can even afk.
This is my first site so no frigates, but checking the other one, eve-survival says they don't have webs? How do you kill them?
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>>120680812
not the most convenient, but you can probably kill them in an assault frigate while still sigtanking.
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>>120680812
just start orbiting the cloud while cloaked and decloak once youre in a comfy orbit
to afk the vitals proper you need the cap fit though otherwise they turn off your AB
i use domis to prep the frigs but anything that can stay on the field under 2k dps long enough to be effective could work, buffer rattle easily, just be ready to leave when tank breaks
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>>120680812
>>120681790
i used to fully clear sites solo in a sigtanked ham tengu in a black hole effect, you gotta commit pretty hard though, no room for mistakes with that setup
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>>120679084
those are the only two useful battleships because drones everything else is shit
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Do people even use Nestors unironically? Like why did they even make that ship
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>energy turret optimal range bonus
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>>120687026
they used them as a mobile platform in WH's

other than that they really didn't have a purpose and at that price they weren't worth it for anything, they don't have enough PG to sport their gun bonus at all
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>tracking speed bonus
>ccp help I suck at piloting
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>>120687612
what?
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>>120687026
They were a big meme for certain fleets so they could refit on the fly. My alliance used them a lot.
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>>120688656
>were

are
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come on /eog/ do something
I'm bored
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>>120675250
how do you run from the webs and warp disruptions?
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>>120687612
go in peace pup
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>>120674636
PvP Combat
PvP Free market capitalism
PvP resource collection

The 3vPillars of EVE Online
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>new logistics ships

but they didn't fix the old ones yet
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>>120694275
>added logistics falloff
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>>120694275
>remote reps and neuts will be getting falloff and optimal ranges like guns.

nigga do you even read /r/eve or dev blogs?
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>>120694723
>>120694776
>literally no details
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>>120675250
LOL I JUST FOUND THE EXACT SYSTEM, AND THE SAME PROSPECT WITH NO PILOT DAFUQ?!
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>>120696935
he died
rip
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>>120694776

>another buff to t3 logi
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>>120696935
Also the system is a blackhole system, and he has a %15 reduction in sig radius booster in the cargo.
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>>120675250
What was the sig ID for the gas site?
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>>120696935
It's bait. The moment you try to board it for a capsule, you're gonna get popped
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>WHs
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>>120697560
Seems to work fine
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Got in my first cap fight yesterday. What fucking a fucking blast. Even tough they used nagelfar wich does not need cap to kill shit.
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It did not go to well...

How many dreads in siege is a archon supposed to be able to tank?
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>>120698931
1
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>>120698931
Doesn't the Archon have seven lows not six? :^)
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>>120699048
assuming no neuts
and he might still kill you if he refits to full dmg and kills your depots, but it will still take a while.
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>>120699070
I put some shit in the depot while in structure
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>>120699125
>>120699048
Well there were two of them. Both nags. The combat shakes got me really good. Cannot wait to do it again.
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Okay so I have been living in a wormhole for a long ass time now and I want to be a little shithead and spew shuttles all over empire space.
But I must ask because there are some people who don't like to have fun... Is this legal? Or is it a bannable offense?
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>>120696935
>86% velocity bonus
>43% inertia bonus

Nigga I want to take a dramiel in there just to laugh like a motherfucker while zipping around at 14km a second.
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>>120700451

You can go 31 km/s in a oversized-mwd inty
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>>120700735
>fittings 302M ISK
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>>120701691

You have to use digital booster mwd, it's the only one with low enough powergrid requirement.
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>>120696935
Heh, I wanted to try the cap fit mentioned above so I ejected to have a replacement.
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>>120701961
Nope, after the tirecide the compact one has the same requirements
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>>120697083
I didn't notice it was a black hole, that explains I needed agility. You can see in the pic I didn't need the booster.
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>Amarr
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>>120687026
Shoot a suspect in a trade hub. You'll find out who uses nestors pretty quick.
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>>120706245

>nestor uncloaks
>my neuting domi alt uncloaks
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>>120700268

You can drop shuttles all over the place all day long as long as you don't drop them all on the same gate.
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>>120708193

>my three falcon alts uncloaks
>my 5 neutral logi alts warp in at 20km
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>>120709061
>I cyno in the blob
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>>120710776
>and then realize i can't because of hisex
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How many alts do I need to become an elite solo PVPer, /eog/?
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>>120711020

At least one falcon alt, minimum.
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>>120711020
you gotta have your main, then a falcon alt, then your links alt (maybe have two of these), then maybe a logi alt and then two or three standby combat pilots in case you gotta get some extra dps
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>>120711020
At least three guardian alts
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>>120711127
you definitely want two link alts, so your falcon alt can get info links
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>rifter and slasher 'buffs'
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Give rifter 4 guns and more PG.
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>>120714535
What are the deets? I'm a slasher main but I can't watch the twitch because I'm at work.
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>>120714895
>4 guns

so you want them to just give up on utility highs altogether on frigs?
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>>120714960
what, they put these up ages ago m8

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=451065

and navy ewar frigs if you haven't seen yet

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=451066
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>>120715064
Thanks man, I'll check them out
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I never noticed that the Rifter had 2 launcher hardpoints. Weird.
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>>120715064
It's only a very small buff imo. Better than nothing I guess. Now to think of what modules I can add to use up that powergrid and cpu
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>>120715931
it technically is better than nothing, but it also means they are definitely not going to do anything else to it for a long time. like if an overpowered ship gets a really half-assed nerf. if they did nothing to it, I could sit here and foolishly believe that in the next expansion they'll redesign the whole thing.
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the city of gold
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>>120716237
how the fuck, is this in particular classes, or shattered or something?
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>>120716292
just holes that havent been touched yet, they still exist

only 2 left :(
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CCP regularly made 14 days free comeback offers for old accounts. Now they only spam me with $9.99 scams.
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Join almighty All-Out
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>>120716237
good goyim
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>>120717805
If you're bad and you know it, Join All-Out
If you're bad and you know it, Join All-Out
If you're bad and you know it, then your fit will surely show it
If you're bad and you know it, Join All-Out.
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>not tengoo
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post what you're flying

hecate here
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>>120720534
buzzard
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>>120720534
Navy omen
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>>120720534
A dramiel. Still trying to figure out range control because I'm a terrible player
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>>120720534
Sleipnir.
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>>120720534
confessor

also thank god, appchanx has updated to have the option for old captcha back
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>>120720534

:^)
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>Flying sisters of eve ships
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>>120709061
Now I remember why I unsubbed
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>being poor
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>playing eve
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>having low SP
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>not flying amarr
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>flying muh shiny golden ships while being part of a cult
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>>120718004
Nothing wrong with being bad
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>wanting to be bad
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>starting to play a game that's 12 years old and you can't ever get as good as someone who has been playing longer than you

no wonder it's dying
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>being so bad you think you can't beat bad vets
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>>120723058
I have run into people that have played EVE for years and are completely fucking retarded.

And if you're talking about skill points, there's only so many skills that apply to any single ship. And most of the training time is just getting skills from 4 to 5, which isn't exactly an overwhelming advantage.
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Too many vets are now married normies or old people, its easy to beat the, their brains are slow and you can do circles around them
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>>120721439

But anon, stratios is sexy.
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Patchnotes for Nov 3rd:

http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-parallax/
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>>120726964
>readded jukebox
About fucking time
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>>120726964
>raata sunset amarr ships

my dick
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>>120726964

Thoughts on Dscan getting a hotkey? I can see people binding that to a side mouse button and just hitting it every second when they farm.
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>>120727190
put your dick away, they look really terrible
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>>120727256
damnit

*zips dick*
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>>120726964
>no content
>only SKINS

god damnit CCP
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>Resizing scan range can be modified by ALT-MOUSEWHEEL
>Spread probes formation be modified by CTRL-MOUSEWHEEL

Yiss
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>>120727243
so the same shit people already do but instead of clicking they hit a button.
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>>120727710

Naturally people already dscan a lot, although hotkeys exist because they make things easier to do.

Imo, the average person will dscan a bit more frequently, now that they don't need to drag their cursor to the corner of the screen. Having it on a mouse button would make it a lot easier to scan during a hacking minigame, for example.
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>>120728210
well good for everyone
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>A character with a criminal flag in a high-sec system is no longer able to board/switch ships whilst in space.

RIP Globby
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>highsec pvp
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Is there a way I can add the new ewar frigs to the pyfa/EFT ship database without waiting for the official release?
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>>120729309
I think it involves a hex editor, no easy way
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>>120729309
yes there is
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>>120727668
>no content
Brain in a Box.
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>>120729309
Pyfa publishes its source code, doesn't it?
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>>120726964
>someone saved my pic that i only posted once
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>>120729818
>Generating a new sqlite dump HOWTO

>You'll need pyfa itself (git://dev.evefit.org/pyfa.git)
as well as phobos (git://dev.evefit.org/phobos.git)

>Phobos can dump the whole of the eve cache to json, after installing it (=python setup.py install) just do python dumpToJson.py -e /path/to/eve -c /path/to/eve/cache -s serverName -o /output/folder

>Arguments explained: -e and -c should be pretty self explanitory, they're the path to the eve install and the eve cache respectivly

>-s is the serverName, its used to figure out which subfolder in the machonet folder we're intrested in. (possible values: tranquility, singularity, duality).
>This is passed directly to reverence which keeps a serverName to IP address mapping. >You could probably add more servers with their IPs in the reverence sourcecode (cache.py file, around like 150 in the CacheMgr class) if you need another one.

>-o is the output folder to dump all json files to, it should already exist or you'll get errors.

>After thats done, you'll have all json files you need, and you can use a script within pyfa to generate a dump from that.

>After you checked out pyfa, don't forget to update submodules (git submodule update --init).

>and then browse to eos/utils/scripts/jsonToSql.py, which can generate the sqlite dump pyfa needs.

>python jsonToSql.py -d eve.db -j /output/folder

>Once thats done, you should have a nice little sqlite database, you can replace the one in the staticdata folder with yours and it should run right away.

tfw too pleb I never cared to learn programming skillz and I even forgot most of my scholastic C
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>>120730906
>forgot most of my scholastic C
>doesn't know basic BASH
Sure.
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>>120730676

dogola has touched many lives
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>>120731041
>look up BASH on google
>le evik linuz hassors xDDDd
I stopped using line commands on my little time spent on linux the moment I realized I could do everything just normal through the GUI

then again I used to use linux more because unix, since it was in a scientific context.
I used to make programs with lots of numbers
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>>120726964
>jukebox
>sunset skins
>transferable sov
>brain in a box
>useable laser crystal damage readout
>so many fucking probing upgrades
>clicking app notifications opens recruitment window
i like this update
this is a quality update

only things i'm wary/curious about:
>does the new scanning interface allow dscan control by manipulating the map camera, like the old one does?
>plex icon changed
>several renamed mods / killmark introduction means fitting tools need to update but it might be nontrivial to do so
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>>120727029
Yeah, why the fuck did they remove it in the first place?
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>>120731570
whew lad
good luck setting up any kind of server - jabber, website, buyback, killboard, etc - for your corporation on a headless VPS without using the command line
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>>120731570
All you need to do to use pyfa is learn "cd", "ls" and use the commands they gave you. How hard can it be?
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>>120731839
>>useable laser crystal damage readout
>clearly percentage in 0,0x form is 2hard 2 read

>but it might be nontrivial to do so
read up >>120730906
they do a dump of the eve client database
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>tfw my first kill is shit
https://zkillboard.com/kill/49875690/
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>>120731897
Closest to an explanation I got was that they felt too many folks used external players instead of the Jukebox, enough that it didn't justify maintaining the code. I guess they misread the situation.
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>>120732027
>2hard2read
i haven't looked TOO hard at my crystals - i just carry spares - but from what i've been able to tell, they haven't been breaking at 1.00 or at 100 or at 0, which are the numbers that would seem most intuitive to me. i'd like to learn, though. currently -
>what value does a crystal start at?
>what value does a crystal break at?
>does the stat indicate damage or health amount?
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>>120731979
>implying I'll ever have a job
>implying I'll ever have a job in IT
my father forwarded me a site where they are looking for people to hire, since he can't stand my NEETdom.
I may shake off and start learning again.

>>120731993
I did. but GUI is easier to use and I don't need to show off le haxxors mad zkillz with classmates who may be even shittier than me.

Actually, I did most of my projects alone, at the desk. I recieved a bonus for it. Ended up with 29/30
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>>120731979
>VPS
Why do you not have your own server?
>>120732453
Just go learn basic Bash. It's not hard.
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>>120732669
>own server
i'm poor and neet though i'm trying to fix that
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>>120732779
A simple Raspberry Pi 2 will be cheaper than a VPS in the short term (after about 3-4 months)
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>>120732170
Keep up the good work.
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>>120733040
in both the short term and the long term*

They don't use much power either so yeah.
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>>120732170
Someone needs to send this guy a fitting guide, or something.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/45483360/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/44999576/
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>>120732170
grats m8
you're ahead of me; i still don't have a solo kill
also >tritanium
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>>120733192
>No low slots
>Half fitted mid slots
What the fuck. Someone needs to send this guy some common sense. What's he even doing in low sec?
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>https://zkillboard.com/kill/49892465/
:^)
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>>120733289
He probably found a hauler rat in belt.
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>>120733289
I didn't exatly plan on pvping, but I landed like 5km of him so I was like nah fuck it.
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>>120731839
dscan works on the map, yes
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>>120732386
There's like 1 dude in charge of sound, they didn't want to do maintenance work on a music player when there're other options. Basically like the IGB
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>>120733040
...and also have massively poorer performance

>comparing arm cores to xeon cores
>comparing sd io to sata

The Pi makes a shit server fam
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>>120732669
>Just go learn basic Bash. It's not hard.
Oh I wished. Someday I wanted to start (re)-learning C++. I realized I already knew most of the syntax from my uni days, yet I'd have swore that I couldn't recall any on a whim.
Even today, I feel like I wouldn't be able to put together a program .

I dropped after two days.
recently I proposed to myself to refresh my old hobby of flightsim. Dropped that too.
It's always like that.
I went to several Psycologists, next one I'm waiting for on monday.
It's not even my being a lazy ass. When it comes to EVE I make all the spreadsheets, I love working with numbers.
If I have an aim to pursue I give it my all, like when I was a kid and got skyhigh marks in school, because I genuinely wanted to learn, I was amazed at all the physics shit, I always wanted to know more, learn more, I always found myself reading the encyclopedia my parents bought when I was a kid, written in point10 in columns.
But now it faded away. it's always like that. I feel lost I feel bored, that's why I also unsubbed from eve.

pardon me the blog
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>>120733879
>massively poorer performance
Fair enough but I doubt that you'll be able to even fully utilize the raspberry for casual usage. (Like a http/ftp server with medium load)
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>>120733941
>unsubbed from EVE
Why are you still here? Do you miss the game?

Sounds like depression to me.
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>>120733879
depends on what you use it fam

if you need to run a service you only use you and your 10 friends :^)

then again IP connection 24h7 may be a problem based on your ISP
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>>120734493
>Do you miss the game?
when I started my trial and I jumped in an impairor I became fully aware this game wasn't about le ebin spaceship, I was fully aware of the kind of cancerous games EVE belongs to.
I wandered here looking for a game that let me have that sense of "space".

But EVE works on a massive scale and the market/industry stuff clicked with me, I missed an old game of mine where I enjoyed producing selling stuff a lot, striking deals with individual buyers and buccaneering the market alike.

I unsubbed mostly because of that same snes of boredom, of apathy, I don't know how to call it. I feel like I already seen it all. Even exploration, I figured my little anathema/magnate hacking sites all day long, only for some null ratting jew to buy all of what I found for PLEXmoneis.
Maybe it's that I'm the one buying and not the one selling, not the one having the upper hand.
That may be the case, I use to hold on most of the loot I find in EVE, for "future enterprises" I never come to realize. At moments I had 300mil worth of salvage waiting to start making rigs, then I figured how much of an headache that was and I sold it all wholesale to my CEO.

I still have like 600mil in datacores and decryptors, I always run data sites because "it feeds my invention activity" even if I came to realize I need to buy datacores off the market/farm them from agents.

Also I am poor NEET, I learned to live with the little money I got. And I can't stay subbed to EVE. I make every penny count.
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>>120735648
>I have seen everything
No you haven't. Not unless you've beaten every kind of ship in PvP
>I'm poor NEET
That is a shame but couldn't you buy plex with ISK?
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Thinking of playing and piloting a carrier? Any tips?
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>>120737631
http://crossingzebras.com/so-you-want-to-fly-a-carrier/
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>>120737631
Unless you already have the skills, by the time you have trained for a carrier they are gonna work a lot different than what they are now.
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>>120737824
>mlp logo
close tab
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Did I set the price right or is it too much?
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>>120736401
no, by "seeing it all" I see the bigger purpose, the bigger game.
I'd never be a miner unless I had the money (ISK or real) to run 10 multiboxing accounts.

I get bored fast of everything, and if I don't get bored, I start seeing all the bad things that are or that could go wrong, and eventually I decide the odds aren't worth the effort.
That's something I always tell to psycologists, but I got the impression I'm always talking to some modern-ish idiot, or that I'm wasting the doctor's time, he may have to make with more serious cases than me rambling about my shit. I always sense this detachment in my interlocutor.

>That is a shame but couldn't you buy plex with ISK?
I could easily sub and then PLEX my account for 2-3 months with FW plexing, but either the repetitive or the lowsec epin pirates who blob your 600k ISK stabbed ship with T3Ds and scripted interdictors eventually make me desist

>PVP
Too expensive. I translate my misery in game. No way I'm gonna pop a 10 million fitted frigate only for the enjoyment of some fat worm peerate with 2 afk carrier alts in Deklein.

As such I never got any actual PvP skill nor experience save from the two roams I did when CalMil had a bare minimum of organization and the duel arena of my corp.

I think I understand how PVP works but I really don't like the idea of 10million ISK of frigate, or worse, billions if we are talking capital fights, go down the toilet in the span of a second because primaried.
I always like fitting my ships, studying the fit on pyfa. I always take religious care.
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>>120738612

>blueprints

What's your excuse for not building them with stuff you salvage/collect yourself?
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>>120739229
I ca't build t2 stuff.
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>>120738615
>pvp too expensive
lmao got any other excuses?
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>>120738615
FYI 10 millions is literally nothing, and you're lacking an awful lot of perspective if you believe you've seen the bigger picture.
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>>120739229
building T2 rigs requires invention skills
t. >>120735648
>At moments I had 300mil worth of salvage waiting to start making rigs, then I figured how much of an headache that was and I sold it all wholesale to my CEO.
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>>120739850
10 millions time 10 frigates it's 100milions

that's a small fortune, 1 /10th of PLEX price, or 1/8th of what it used to be

the point is that I don't like blowing my own stuff dude free ISK lmao xDD
and what are the odd against me if I go in a FW plex looking for a fight?
Won't I find some faggot full minmaxed?

PVP requires persistance and a persistant flow of money in, and I have none spare of both
>inb4 I get all my money from players shiny loot xDDD
we all know of your carrier m8 :^)
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>>120739975
It shows only Industry V to me, but every type of rig requires all those different skills - high energy physics, nanite engineering and shit. I might get it all to level 1 or so later.
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>>120738615
>10million
>Expensive
My frigs typically cost up to 5million (and that's for a crazy good fit). 10million is not a lot anyways
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>>120740409
Trust me, it isn't a small fortune. Don't act like you know shit, because you don't.
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>>120740409
It just shows how little you know about the game. You're just another bear who got bored. It's normal, happens to every miner, it doesn't give you any special insight about the game. Fuck off
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Who datacore mining here?

Just realized I've had R&D building for about 2 years
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>>120731897
Spaghetti code.
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>>120718004
>tfw made this when i was allout of all out
>im now in all out
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>>120740873
>tfw I might be joining all-out too
>>120740759
>>120740529
I get this feeling he just has OCD and perfectionism tendencies. Leave the poor guy alone.
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>>120738615
>No way I'm gonna pop a 10 million fitted frigate only for the enjoyment of some fat worm peerate with 2 afk carrier alts in Deklein

is this actually how you think things work
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>>120740810

I have one research agent I visit sometimes. Usually the little bitch wants me to deliver something or bring minerals. It's not worth my time but I do it anyway.
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>>120740983
>>tfw I might be joining all-out too
let me scrub your api fam
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>>120741201
Nothing to hide nothing to fear amirite?
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>>120741427
Only retards commune info in in-game mails anyway. Alliances have slack and forums for that.

It only gets tricky when you have to cross reference killboards.
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>>120740810
I only check once in a while. Apparently I have around 21K RP waiting at my level 4 agents, which I imagine is only peanuts.
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How much dakka do I need for the besieged covert research facilities?
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>>120740983
Do it
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>>120745895
Is there any chance a corp can join the alliance instead? We're a small corp of about 40 people
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>>120746041
You would have to talk to tim but unless you are literally all for or very familiar with 4chan, no.
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>>120731897
Was breaking POS code.
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>>120746041
there are two people who i've talked to who expressed interest in joining the alliance if their corps took off. One of them used to be in in all-out and decided to drop in order to start a corp along with his friend and focus on industry, and the other was talking in this thread about starting up a booster cartel somewhere in lowsec. are you either of them by chance?
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>>120748639
Nope. I'm from a wormhole corp whose members rarely venture out.
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>>120746119
They all love /b/.
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>>120748892
gross

I dont even think the eu dream team browses /b/
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>>120748819
>wormholes
that's a tentative mark in favor

>>120748892
>posted 30 seconds after >>120748819
i am skeptical of the veracity of your statement

>>120749054
shard pls, half of oruze were huge robots even before the chemobot was put back in place
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>all-out
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>>120749054
>hating on your meme overlord
pls stop your h8 speech
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>>120749190
r9k is not b
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>>120749436
it's one of the closest though
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>>120749798
its not the same
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Bumping for minmatar
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>Sansha's Nation
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>>120754432

Why is EVE's lore so edgy seriously

Can't there be a guy who's just a pirate king because he's bored, and they're not edgelords who drink blood or anything?
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>>120745542

A solo ishtar should be enough?
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>>120754770

i don't get sansha or blood raider

the rest make sense though
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>>120755201
Sansha makes perfect sense

Blood raiders are an occult offshoot of amarr religion
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>4 days with no jita prostitute
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>>120754770
What about Guristas? They're pretty 'normal pirates', aren't they?

From the wiki:
Unlike other rogue factions, the Guristas focus primarily on old-fashioned piracy, although they're not afraid of making surgical raids deep into Caldari space if they think doing so will achieve something worthwhile.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Guristas_Pirates
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>>120754797
Something less meme?

>>120754770
>implying irl crime organisations aren't similar
Guristas are oldschool pirates, serpentis are druglords, Angels are like indiana jones nazis, BR are ISIS, Sansha are Soviet.
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>>120757692
>Sansha are Soviet.
Not even close
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>>120757692
that's... pretty good anon
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>>120757692

If you don't care about being caught? Rattlesnake.
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>>120758026
>muh unity
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>>120759342
The empires cucked him out of utopia so he turned his people into zombies with the truepower the only remaining few with sentience


as with all lore and esp pirate lore, I recommend people read the first novel.
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guys

how do you change the directory of the markedlogs folder of elinor
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Fucking russians and their memeorthruses D:
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>lore
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>>120738615
>I'd never be a miner unless...
>As such I never got any actual PvP skill nor experience save...
What is it you've seen again?
> I always sense this detachment in my interlocutor.
You're the complex creature that sees over and around and through everything from the couch, without actually ever acting, that detachment you sense is boredom and disgust.
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>https://zkillboard.com/kill/49895542/
:^)
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>>120764414
>meme killed by memes
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>>120764414
>cargo scanner
why?
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>>120766774
to scam for memes
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>>120764414
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>Blood Raiders
Full-on crazy religious nuts
>Sansha
Super-cool space zombie reich
>angel, guristas, serpentis
hurr, I am a weed smokin pirate, lol
>drones
self-replicating space cancer

angel, guristas, serpentis confirmed for the worst faction
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CCP what the fuck are you doing?

>Tristan:
Slight speed drop to the current top-dog of T1 frigates to help even out the field. The Tristan is a great and flexible ship, and doesn't really need to be quite as fast as it currently is.
>-10 m/s

It already is the slowest gallente frig, and now has its speed reduced to 5 m/s faster than a fucking merlin.

If you put 2 nano rigs and a nano low into the tristan, it is faster than the other combat ships that have 400 base speed, marginally, BUT THAT SACIRFICES A SHITLOAD OF CAPABILITY AND ALREADY TURNS THE SHIP INTO A PAPER BALL THAT DIES IF ANYTHING TARGETS IT!

It's like they think the concept of balance is a popularity contest.....

>>120768283
Guristas are shit tier, serpentis are meth lab whores, and angels are AIDS.
>>
:3
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>>120769413
the tristan was the number 1 PVP T1 frigate of them all

the speed nerf stops these retarded shield kiting fits that are just orbit at 25k point and use hob goblins
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>>120769494
why split your guns?
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>>120769413
>Guristas are shit tier,
are you dumb? the worm is the best faction pvp ship, the gila fucking dumps dps and the rattlesnake is a dominix on steroids
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>>120769616
Not him but I do it when there's multiple targets

Also, which is better? (Check pic)
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>>120769789
the nano is purely because you get the agility boost
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>>120769789
Overdrive if you only care about speed, Nano if you are looking to warp out faster.
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>>120769789
what do you want from them?
for what ship and what purpose

Nano is usually better but remember it has a armor drawback while overdrive dosn't
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>>120770009
>a armor drawback
structure
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>>120769616
Why have 7 guns glance off when you can have only half of them?

Also it looks better.
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>>120769789
Remember to use TypeD nanofiber. the others are shit
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>>120770009
>>120769954
>>120769873
I tend to fight till either of our ships explode. Guess that means the overdrive will be more useful then?
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>>120770159
not necessarily, remember that a nanofiber allows you to turn faster, accelerate faster and hold tighter circles around an enemy, you're also able to sling shot better because of it
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>>120770135
It dosn't work like that, the only reason to split if when shooting all at once is overkill, mostly against shitty NPCs

>>120770159
If your ship maneuvers like a 60s Cadilac you want to nano it up, if it maneuvers fine and all you want is speed for kiting or catching people overdrive is usually better.
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>>120770146
Not on my shitty frig it isn't.
>>120770242
>>120770341
Guess overdrive is definitely better for this then?
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>>120770341
I like shooting like that. Sometimes when I orbit a battleship rat, I ungroup completely and the 7 guns pewpewing.
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>>120770771
Less hull loss that far outweighs the tiny loss for velocity and agility
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>>120770915
Use the Type-d restrained because its better in a few ways

1. its half the structure penalty, 10% vs 20%
2. you get like 95% the bonus of the T2, the difference is virtually unnoticeable
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>>120768283
>>120769413
>>120769702
guristas are the only 'violence for profit' pirates, the rest are druggies or crazies
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Habbening!
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>>120775698
ayyy
how much is that even anyway?
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>>120769413
>tristan
>having to make sacrifices
That's how it should have been from the start, faggot.
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>>120776391
Looks about 70M around here.
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Page 10 in 30 mins? Wow.

>Amarr
>>
>Amarrica
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>>120776472

that's how it was from the start.

When a ship with -60 base m/s kites you....you have to make sacrifices.

At this point, Tristans are stuck being brawlers, and laughably sling shotted.
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Suck my diiiiick Mordu. Today is a good day.
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>>120784639
why are you wasting skills and time doing scrap jobs only to make shit money
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>>120785739

Not him but have you ever considered that some people play EVE for fun and not because it's a second job?
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>>120785860
But hes literally working like thats a 2nd job.
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>>120785932
Why? I'm happy that I killed an ├╝ber rat in a Trasher with a two week old character. How is that a second job?
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>Industry is pointless, you can make more money doing L4s!
>L4s are pointless, you can make more money doing L5s!
>L5s are pointless, you can make more money doing wormhole escalations!
>Wormhole escalations are pointless, you can make more money doing Jita prostitution!

Nice try you pimp asshole but I know where this path leads.
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>wormhole escalations
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>doing missions for gurista officer bros
>estamel always pays the best

Guristas the best pirate faction. Really wish gate and belt rats didn't attack when you're at 6.00 with a faction
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Whats a good fleet comp for a 4 man gang? Does it even matter to not go kitchen sink? Should we try to convince someone to play the logi role
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>decide to see how lowsec salvaging pays
>five min fw systems later
this is silly good newbro money, and the supply is pretty much endless
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>>120795282
you could do the cancerous thing and do a burst with 3 svipuls or some dogshit like that
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>>120795282
vexor or other brawler
crucifier/maulus
kitey ship like caracal, beam omen
then either a solo logi or another kitey ship
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>>120795447
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>>120766774
if you get an escalation, you can cargo scan the rat, and if it doesn't have what you want, you can come back after downtime and it'll have something else.
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>>120795447

>newbros swarming recently-vacated warground to snap up the salvage like vultures

I support this
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>>120795282
>convince

playing solo logi is fun and difficult. as soon as you get more though it becomes boring as shit. 3 combats 1 logi is good.
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>>120796448
I've been thinking about trying it out myself, but then I would need to get them to all pick the same tank type. We mix armor and shields every night
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>>120796524
really kitey long range shitters can make do without receiving rr a lot of the time

if you want to be mega gay you could trade the logi for ecm
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>>120796724
Well my only level 5 racial ships are Caldari frigs/cruisers and Minmatar dessies. Never really experimented with other ships in pvp other than my raptor, svipul, and moa. Would be a pretty easy train for an ecm boat

Since they would be primaried more than likely, should I just try out a griffin?
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>>120795447
just realized i'm not even combating for lost drones. i bet people go out of their way to pick up faction drones on gates, but stuff in deep space is more likely to stick around.
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>>120795282

Covops

4x arazus is hilariously broken, you can reduce 2-3 ships' targeting range to nothing

Same with the caldari and amarr covops. Minmatar is shit.
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>>120797305
that's not good at all. and you don't need 4 arazus to damp 2 ships, get good.
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>>120796943
>griffin

sure why not. maulus and crucifier are also very powerful ewar ships, but they need you to actually think.
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How well does a Deimos function in pvp?
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>>120795282
>fast and deadly
1 Kitsune
2 Svipul
1 Ceptor

>minmatar strong
2 x-large ancillery Vagabonds
2 dual medium ancillery Svipuls

>Just fuck my shit fam
2 Orthrus
2 Scimitar

>The Fun ends here
4 Garmurs

>Logi 'r us
4 Sleipnirs

>Brawling is for dumb idiots
1 Keres
1 Ceptor
2 Beam Confessors

>Thanks CCP :^)
4 Cerberus or 4 Caracals

>Lmao stop trying already fam
2 Cynabals
1 Huginn
1 Lachesis

>We're merely pretending to be retarded
1 Vigilant
1 Machariel
1 Orthrus
1 Curse

>Only the dead can see peace from this evil
1 Covert Cyno Loki
3 Blops
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>>120797828
uh. well, I guess. I don't know what to say.
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>>120797898
faggot meme ships
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>>120797975
>I get rekt by every ship mentioned on a daily basis
:^)
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>>120798059
>I can't make it unless I'm flying overpowered gimmicks
>>
Massed neuts is pretty funny as a small gang lineup. neut domis for example
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>>120798129
>I fly shit ships on purpose for no reason
>I'm a poorfag
>I have no SP
Pick one
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>>120798203
I'm picking all of them and you can't stop me. :^)
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>>120798459
no fuck you only pick one
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ded game
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Could a Thrasher somehow fit 280mm artys? How much does your powergrid rise with better skills? It seems pretty impossible now.
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>>120801092
you get 25% more powergrid, but you also get a reduction in powergrid usage on guns. the 280mm fit requires top skills and 2 powergrid rigs if you want to fit a microwarpdrive, and everything else on the fit is 1 powergrid per slot
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>Corp needs more logi
>I'm only 2 days from being able to fly a Guardian so why not, start training that shit
> Doing research on Logi in the mean time
> Comparing Augoror bonuses to the Guardian
> Augoror seems to be better in every way
What gives?
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>polarized weapons have like -25% fitting requirements
>there's no polarized artillery
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>>120801284
guardian has more tank, and it's a lot more cap stable with cap chaining than augoror.

also your corp is going to be really gay and tell you to fuck off if you don't have logi 5. get that augoror, T1 ships are more fun.
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>>120801443
>polarized long range weapons

hopefully ccp never adds these. fuck kitefags.
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>>120801592

I'd actually be glad to see paper-tanked kitefags, as an exclusive vindicator player.
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They should make it so you keep structure resists when piloting a polarized ship. I wanna see weird as fuck quirky hull tank polarized freakships.
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>>120802071

>polarized kronos with 253k EHP

pls no
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>>120801964
kitefags have the option of avoiding damage by being out of range. no more buffs for faggot coward ships pls

>>120802071
no fuck off hull tanking is op
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>>120802202
Would it be cap stable with that hull repper?
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>>120803907

Aye, but only 25 hp/s for each large hull repairer. Active hull tanks are very bad unfortunately. But they are midslot items unlike armor repairers, so that is cool.
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>tfw 5M fit got me 230M bpc
It only took 5 minutes of crawling behind that faggot.
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>tfw 1M shirt got me 2bil of jita prostitution money
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>Jita prostitution
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>dodixie prostitution
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someone explain this prostitution meme
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>>120806423

A few days ago there was a bizarre outburst of ERP-prostitutes in jita local, that's pretty much it.
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Happy Halloween, /eog/!
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>>120801284
t2 resists + catching reps
need i say more
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>>120807327
So it's just tankier?

Augoror seems to have better range, transfers and reps.

And then the Navy Issue is a gunboat?

Shit makes no sense.
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>>120807919
>Augoror seems to have better range, transfers and reps.

it doesn't. the T2 logi cruisers are supposed to use large modules in the highslots. the T1 logi cruisers are supposed to use medium. don't ask me, it's fucking stupid, but in practice, they have similar rep amount and range, with T2 having a little more. the real reason to use them though is the tank.

if you want to be cheeky though, using undersized deadspace reps to get a huge tank is pretty fun. smalls on a T1 logi or mediums on a T2 logi. can be expensive, but it's quite efficient in fleets where logis are usually less tanky than the other ships and get killed a lot.
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>>120801284
Guardians can fit large reppers
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>>120808158
Oh ok, large reps and transfers gets your numbers up there.

Ok.

Makes sense.
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>battlecruisers
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Who else is a spacejew here?
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>>120809956
:^)
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I wish there were pirate battlecruisers, a battlecruiser version of the vindicator would tear space assholes apart like nothing else.
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>>120810948
why are people so obsessed with only flying special t2 or faction versions of things
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>>120811239

Because they're better than the alternatives yo?
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>>120811239
Because pirate ships are cool.
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>>120811635
>>120811702
special snowflakes everywhere
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>>120797898
>only one comp with a keres
you must be new to this
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>EAFs unironically
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>>120797898
>x-large ancillery Vagabonds
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>cruiser with active shield tank bonus

>4 mids
>5 lows
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>>120814492
Sleipnir is the same.
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amarr is a kek faction desu sempai
better than the goylentee spooky scary skeleton though
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>>120817215
lol
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>>120816921
Yet its fucking amazing in small gang
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>>120816921
>>120818629
sleipnir has stupidly powerful gun bonuses, double +50% is best of all the command ships. claymore with its shitty rof bonuses is pretty depressing.
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>microgang
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>solo
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tfw blobbed by faggots in overpowered ships
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>>120821598
Link killmail pls
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gVqkzZxlRc

make sure to ask ccp for more events like this one
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>>120823513
>>
>blobbed by T3's, Orthruses and Gilas.
>gf
>gf <3
>GF!
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>orthrus
>"dedicated anti-frigate weapon"
>713 dps
>40,000 damage before reload
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>>120768283
>angel
we wuz pirates n shieeet
>serpentis
jews fueling aforementioned space dindus
>guristas
professional sailors turned pirates because profit
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>mfw first time hauling shit
>mfw pos guns are large as fuck
>mfw cargo scanned after first gate
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>>120824674
you forgot
>3000 m/s before overheat
>60 km points
>60k ehps with all that
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>>120826503
Aren't the Angel Cartel like the space mafia?
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>>120666821
>wasting time erp'ing for only 5m/h
It's like you don't even value yourself!
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>>120823513
Already posted to reddit. Sasuga Oruze.
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>supporting any of the houses but Ardishapur
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>>120827206
>Minmatar
>we wuz pirates and shieet
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>>120830293
>Ardishapur
>relevant
>>
>Amarr
>>
>not Amarr
>>
>anything BUT Amarr
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how many trial accounts can I get away with playing simultaneously without getting banned?
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>>120836567
You can't multibox trials.
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>>120836567
>playing simultaneously
One.
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will someone pls buy my booster alt?
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>>120836662
>>120836703
ok but let's say I figured out a way to do it
how many?
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>>120837060
as many as you can run in RAM
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How are people able to fit it decently with this anemic pg?
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>>120837207
you can do a pretty good tank fit easily
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>>120837207
By not fitting arty
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>>120837486
>small autocannons
No.
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>>120837653
you have to, the sabre perfroms really well with small autocannons

you can't do any kind of tank with the artillery
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>>120837169
but some gm (or csr or whatever they're called in this game) actually talks to each new trial account about 2 days in
I tried ignoring him the first time
but he started sending me mail until I responded in the private chat
it's actually really off-putting, even when i was playing legit with one account
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>>120838179
the GM's are very involved in the affairs of new players, EVE is a tough game to get into so they want to make sure that people can find what they want and need. CCP spends a lot of effort on collecting data from new players and how they can better the new player experience.

Please don't give the GM's a hard time, they can't see your IP so they don't know how many clients you're running
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>>120838387
that's pretty neat
I have 32gb ram so I could play a ton of accounts but I don't really wanna fuck with their shit too much
moral dilemma
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>>120837060
you can do this easily by running as windows 7/xp etc. Or by running a virtual machine. There might be an easier way but I've run 3 trials at once.
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>>120838179
Tell him it's an awox account. They should leave you alone after that.
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Why the fuck is every other faggot scanning me just because I fly a hauler? This is pure autism.
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>>120841532
plex is expensive senpai
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>>120841532
tell them to get a passive targeting system.
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>>120838179

>off putting

why?
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>>120823513
>THERE'S A BLOOD RAIDER SITE IN HERE
>*OY GEVALT*
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>>120841532
if you're one of a lot of haulers that carry hundreds of millions in the cargo of a ship that has barely 5k tank, you're gonna get ganked

its not autism, its a business opportunity
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>>120841903
But it's like they expect every ship to carry loads of cash.

>undock Hek
>immediatelly 2 catalysts and a vigil locked on
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>why do people think there are valuables in this ship used to haul valuables?
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>>120842434
they do though believe it or not there are retards carrying hundreds of millions in a ship that can be ganked by a 6m isk catalyst

any of the haulers can be, any missed opportunities are missed opportunities at making money
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>>120842434

>undocking

found your problem m8
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>>120841885
good goy
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This is bretty gud. People are selling researched bpcs.
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>>120844763
people have always sold researched bp's faggot
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>>120841814
because I just want to play a game
I don't want to talk to staff
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>>120844763
always keep your eye out, can find a lot of dumb people in jita selling top quality BPCs at really low prices (got my carrier bpc set for single digit millions)
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>>120844763
>hek
kill yourself
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>>120845238
I always tell them I'm someone's alt, that cuts the conversation short.
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>>120845238

nothing is stopping you from playing the game and having to answer maybe 2 questions from someone who wants to make sure you aren't struggling
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>>120844928
>>120845356
Why are you being so mean to him?
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>>120844763
manufacture is one thing i have never touched in eve
i've never seen that screen at all
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>>120845883
its a massive waste of time
you're far better off spending your available trade slots on buy and sell orders and resell things instead
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>>120845883
I've got a ton of surplus minerals from reprocessing cheap crap from rats. And salvage drops from relic sites.
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>>120846613
i also briefly looked into reprocessing as a way to minmax selling random crap as minerals rather than mods, but didn't feel like rolling my own spreadsheet/program and the existing ones seemed out of date or 2deep4me
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>>120845883
Making things is always a pain since it's rarely profitable and you make like 1m/h
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>>120846848
I reprocess the cheapest shit. The mats are more valuable than the item itself.
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you would think with all the rmt, mittens would be able to afford a different shirt
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B A I T
A O
II
TS
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>>120851230
>mfw I fucked up
>mfw I have no face
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Is Oruze Cruiser officially a new reddit corp?
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>>120851634
nah, we're originally from SA
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>>120851634
>Oruze Cruiser
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>>120851634
>4chan
>not reddit
wew lad
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>>120851634
No they are from a place called channel 4 someone told me.
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>>120851230
>tfw nothing to train
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>>120853073
>>120854024
have you tried podding yourself irl
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>>120854146
You need to calm down anon
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>>120854024
you're telling me, bud.
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>>120854475
I'm sorry did I interrupt your shit blog nigger? Please keep me updated on your pleb skill queue.
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is it true that a few trial accounts in day 1 frigates can take down pretty much anything in pvp?
>>
Joined the mining chat channel, didn't regret it.
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>>120856228
Numbers trump a lot of things in this game. However "anything" is pushing it.
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>tryin to be pvper
>keep trying anon you can do it
>advice turns out to be a huge waste of time and I keep dying/get no fites
>finally some genius tells me to get get a link alt fag
>mfw it actually worked
god damn why did so many people waste my time with this 30 day rifter shit and slicer videos? do people actually give advice in this game when they have never actually done it themselves?
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>>120857002
>needing links to beat unlinked opponents
trashcan confirmed
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>>120857002
enjoy it while it lasts faggot :^)
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>blueprint hauling in a shuttle
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>>120861595
another 9-12 months? Doubt I'll still be playing when they get round to changing it.
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>>120864391
5 Months
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>>120864598
somehow I don't think they are going to release anything big before they do citadels
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>>120864714
Its not big, they release small patches all the time, hell there is one in 3 days for the killmarks and probing, dscan stuff.
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>>120864817
just how new are you?
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>>120865527
Not as new to need links to git gud at pvp
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>be me
>start playing over 3 years ago
>links were just as borken then and everyone was complaining
>decide not to train my alt into links as they would surely do something about them
>be me
>3 years later
>still nothing done about them
>i'm just about to finish up my link skills

such is eve, faggots.

I only use them if i'm fighting outnumbered is that ok?
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>>120865675
no
using link alts is for real faggots
its only acceptable when you're the ship running the links
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>>120865892
but I am anon. I am running two ships at once, that requires more skill than running one ship at once, it's a simple fact.
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>>120865675
my link alt only took like 6 months to max out

the fuck were you training
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>>120865609
but newer than someone who knows that the "little patches" are being replaced by once in 6 months expansions. So gg faggot I'll be using links until I quit.
>>120865675
exactly. Links are super powerful. Not using them is like not fitting all the modules on your ship because it's an unfair advantage against ships with less fitting slots.
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>>120866038
I mean a combat ship that actually engages with links on it.
Not just some nullified cloaky fag ship that just hides.
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>>120866106
I trained a ton of stuff in the middle, max dread skills, max scanning, a bunch of other shit. I kept thinking links would be balanced.
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>first there were big expansions
>then (now) there were small patches
>in the future there will be both big and small updates[1]
what's so hard to understand?

also brain in a box is coming out in like three days and it's the most definite step towards removing OGB we've ever seen

1: according to ccp's seagull's roadmap videos
>>
>this spooky 4chan theme

f5 if you haven't in a while
>>
Easy way to fix links.
>Make them only work if they're in the same grid.
>Cannot be used in the same grid as POS.
>Cloaking damages the modules by 20% per minute even if not activated.
>When links are activated they can be seen on the overview like cynos
>Can't use the interdiction nullifier with modules installed.
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>>120866608
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>>120866608
except that only the first one is required and the rest are counterintuitive and detrimental to gameplay. just make links on grid with optimal + falloff. say, 25km optimal, 25k falloff.

then again people have been saying this for literally years.
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>>120866728
spotted the links baby
don't worry, all removed for good in a few months
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>>120866821
desu if they made a pass on CS at the same time, and make it just grid only, my 7 link damnation would be even more useful.
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>>120866472
>according to CCP seagull
>definite step towards
lol new players sure are gullible

>>120866608
Easy way to fix links: Remove them years ago.
>>
>player made stargates
>revealed 1.5-2 years ago (can't remember)
>latest estimate: end of 2017
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>>120866608
your nerfs don't go far enough
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>>120866142
They are not being replaced, they're just waiting on some features that make sense together so they can make bigger releases once in a while. See for instance Parallax and the december patch will have lots of shit but not be considered expansions.
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>>120869407
parallax has nothing
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>>120866174
They have been waiting on brain in a box for years, which kept getting delayed because of legacy code. Now that it's out things should go a lot faster.
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>>120869612
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>>120869612
Agree, I was talking about december mainly. They mentioned in fanfest that they wanted biab to be released on its own so it wouldn't create random issues with other new features. That might be why everything goes on december
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>>120865675
baka senpai
>>
What filters into baka, senpai and desu?
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>>120871004

baka desu senpai
>>