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- Herc does more damage mathematically than Vlad.
- Servants do 90%-110% damage depending on rng so if you see bait of Vlad out damaging Herc DO NOT RESPOND.
If you disagree try and prove your argument using math.
Experience hands are also part of the sky attribute which Herk is also a part of.
Vlad on the other hand is part of the earth attribute which do 10% more damage to sky.
EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT POST WAS FLAWED AS FUCK AND I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ATE THAT SHIT UP
He gets mad, he gets sloppy
His skill is said to be equal to Arthur when he's functioning properly, but he's got some personality problems to account for as well.
Archer still notes they were lucky to survive, but now they finally feel like there's some hope of victory.
JETfags, Catfags, Kintokifags & Kiyohimefags should officially denounce the cancer that are Vlad/Hercfags and kick them out of any Berserker discussion.
Honestly fuck off
>The Reincarnated Sword of Victory [Noble Phantasm] P163
>This is Gawain’s anti-army Noble Phantasm. It is a holy sword with a pseudo-sun sealed within it’s hilt.
>This holy sword is from the legends about King Arthur. It is a sister sword to Excalibur. Excalibur is a anti-fortress Noble Phantasm, but Excalibur Galatine is anti-army.
>King Arthur’s sword holds starlight within the hilt, while Sir Gawain’s sword holds the equivalent to the suns rays.
>Excalibur’s attack is focused on a single target or point, but Galatine’s attack shoots out in a wide horizontal arc in order to eliminate large swathes of approaching enemy troops.
>The Lady of the Lake is the original owner of both Galatine and Excalibur. Galatine is overshadowed by Excalibur in legends, and not much is said about it.
>The stories about Galatine were mostly crushed by the popularity of Excalibur, and few remain known today.
>From the few stories that remain, all we know is that the sword would manifest the greatest amount of power at noon (similar to Gawain), and that the blade was so well made that it never got nicked or dulled.
>The blade was so sharp that it cut complete through Saracen Soldier Priamus’ shield and chain mail in a single stroke.
>Arthur is the protector of the night (He is of the pedigree of Alto, Artemis, and other such Goddesses of the Moon), and Gawain is the blessed knight of the sun. The color of the sun radiates out when Gawain uses his Noble Phantasm, and it represents the suns rays. Galatine’s prototype was Caladborg. Caladborg was as long as a rainbow, and had enough power to cut off the top of a hill. Caladborg was a magic sword that could shoot out light like a rainbow.
>Galatine is similar to Caladborg. By drawing Galatine from it’s sheath and supplying magic energy the pseudo-sun inside the hilt activates and the cutting edge extends as far as the eye can see.
>Which means it can extend to about 13 kilometers...
Eternity really is a whole lot shorter than you'd think.
>OP creates a new thread because he got btfo by the other op posting facts
>Didn't even bother to update the op with important information about the event
I would report you if my captcha was working
When you posted your damage calculation in the other thread, putting aside how completely wrong the formula was in the first place, you included Herc's damage bonus from Divinity in the wrong place. It's added after all of the other calculations are made, completely independent of every other damage modifier, including what sort of card you're using.
>Gawain [servant] P167-168
>He is a class Saber servant, but due to the immediate reveal of his true name in his first appearance he will be referred to as Gawain in this book. His Master is Leo B. Harwey.
>Gawain has a well-proportioned tall and sturdy body. He is cast as a calm and sweet handsome man.
>He considers selfless devotion to be of the utmost importance, and he has dedicated his sword to Leo, whom he has recognized as a true king. When Leo is talking Gawain never tries to express his own views, and he only speaks as a representative of his Master’s opinion.
>His voice and tone are clear and refreshing, and he would never insult his enemy even when they are down. Even if his opponent is lacking in power or ability, Gawain courteously engages with them out of consideration for their desire for battle and their determination.
UNRIVALED confirmed to beat Achilles.
No longer the strongest.
>vlad fag provide numbers and actual screen shots to end this shit
>hercfags NUH UH and grasping at straws.
if anything autistic heracles fags should be black listed from here.
i feel bad for the actual non idiot Hercules players.
>Sir Gawain appears in The Legend of King Arthur, and is a Knight of the Round Table. He is King Arthur’s nephew, and appears alongside Lancelot as one of King Arthur’s most trusted knights.
>In the legend Gawain ends up being unable to save the King, however his loyalty was true to the end.
>His regrets remain after being summoned as a Servant, so he is determined that this time he will be of assistance to those who hold sway over the fate of the King, and he has sworn to give it his all with every swing of his sword.
>Luckily, the Master to whom Gawain has pledged his sword to seems to be very suitable for him.
>Gawain believes that through birthright Leo possess the right to become king, and that it is his role protect and nurture the development of the young king.
>…at least at first. Gawain eventually learns that Leo has never experienced defeat, and as the people’s king that it is something that Leo will eventually encounter.
>No. It’s more that from his time as a Knight of the Round Table he was thoroughly taught the lesson that without experiencing defeat, a person can never become a true ruler of the people.
>This upstanding and honest knight doesn’t believe in Leo unconditionally as Julius does, but has sworn to be Leo’s sword until the inevitable time comes when Leo will become a true ruler.
>“—Of course. Until that time comes, I will continue to be victorious.”
>As Gawain discusses Leo like this, it’s as if an older brother is watching over his younger brother’s growth.
>Even to the end, Sir Gawain never tells Leo what “that time” is. Leo, trusting in Gawain does not try to discover what “that time” refers to, and together they continue their streak of victories in the Holy Grail War.
Just going to drop this here, no monstrous strength and it wasn't even a buster chain
They are of course welcome to join the ranks of other X-fags as long as the cancer of Vlad/Hercfags gets removed from here.
Your berserker is not in the game yet but as long as you support the movement you're still welcome to join.
Ozzy is kill. You can thank Arash for that.
>Siegfried is one of the coolest characters in Apocrypha
>Gets stuck with the shittiest master in all of Fate and commits sudoku leading to the homunculus plot at the behest of Astolfo
Life isn't fair
He didn't prove anything.
Vlad was doing an increased 10% damage because of attribute bonuses and there was potentially another 20% damage difference between them from RNG rolls.
If anything Vladfags are the retards for completely acting like these things don't exist.
>Rather than the description of a garden, or even a fortress, it is more aptly described as a floating weapon, manifested as a "enormous fortress hanging in the air" in line with its name
Lancelot should be able to do it if the description is correct.
Cosmos is still a problem. Lancelot is one of the few that can actually destroy Cosmos though, but it depends on him getting the weapon for it.
don't start gold we already know you're the strongest so don't butt in.
no one ever argued it and even damage test guys said so.
Kiyohime fags thinking their better than people and purposely throwing wood into the fire.
seriously you're an actual idiot stop trying to false flag other posters when in the end you end up false flagging your fellow kiyohime posters..
>Who's the cutest caster
Is that even a question?
I'm not even a Kiyohimefag just because I post her mate
even though she's super qt
I simply want the fucking cancer that are the Vlad/Hercfags to be gone and collectively to be told to fuck off.
Did DW fix the enemy single target NP/charged skill only targeting the first Servant in the PT?
Berserker, Rider, and Archer are all dead. Assassin, Caster, and Saber are all alive and contracted to Manaka. Lancer is alive but has no allies and has optimized herself for fighting Saber.
so why are they cancer avatar fag?
because, they discussed the game?
it was rather tame until the guy started freaking out.
it was a proper discussion of the game mechanics or is that too much for you waifu fag?
>Karna can't use Brahmastra on enemies with higher skill, Lancelot has EAM.
Are you really saying that the top tier of the age of gods is inferior to Lancelot? EAM is only in one's era
Because it's castle if he can't corrupt a carrier it's just far fetched to think that he can corrupt a castle.
>Lancelot should be able to do it if the description is correct.
Doesn't work like that. He has to think of it as a weapon, whether it's actually meant to be a weapon is of secondary importance. If he sees it as a flying fortress and thinks of it as a fortress, Knight of Honor won't work.
Jonhson as a Rider with Mara as his NP when?
The new MC is A TWISTED FUCKING PSYCHOPATH/an absolute madman.
Philippus Aureolus Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim, also known as Paracelsus. Inventor of the Azoth Dagger and of modern Alchemy.
>Are you really saying that the top tier of the age of gods is inferior to Lancelot?
In terms of skill, yes because EAM. He can indeed use Brahmastra Kundala though, I don't think that one has the curse.
>Because it's castle if he can't corrupt a carrier it's just far fetched to think that he can corrupt a castle.
I don't see why he can't though.
>Rather than the description of a garden, or even a fortress, it is more aptly described as a floating weapon, manifested as a "enormous fortress hanging in the air" in line with its name.
>Although similar to a Temple constructed using Territory Creation, surpassing even the highest-grade normal Temples, it is not meant to be a fortification, but a Noble Phantasm for offensive use.
Wiki could be wrong though, too lazy to go get the actual Novel quotes right now.
King of Kings.
I'll accept that.
so in light of new information.
what monster has a 0 modifier against vlad and heracles?
I want to commit a sin
Seems to be a story where Hakuno experienced the end of CCC and remembered it, and when he rolled back around through Extra original, he decided to change things, and save more of them somehow.
Some people don't know how CCC ended, so just forget that part for now.
Arthur is still alive. Suffering in progress
Arash died like a true hero by using his NP
Brynhildr is still alive. Extreme suffering in progress. Final boss
Ozzy got ALLAH EXCALIBAR'D. Dead along with his master
Paracelsus is still alive. Probably not for long
Assassin is still alive. Potato thanks to Paracelsus but functional
Jekyll is the deadest. His master is a zombie now
He's am asshole who cursed his previous master's young daughter to later be a zombie just to slightly gain manakas favor. Also turned jekylls Master into a zombie to torture assassin since she loved him
I feel like DW nerfed dragon fang rates
before, I got 5 needed for liz in a few days
now when i'm farming fuyuki-0 in the past few days, I got 1 saber monument, 3 pieces, and a total of 0 fangs
I really want an adaption the more I read about this.
This is the "prequel" to the Prototype that came with Carnival Phantasm, right?
spoiler from the final of Prototype Fragments of Blue and Silver
>stuck with ascensions
>several rows of gold XP cards that I can only burn or wait for ascension material to get handed out in an event or something
Fuck you chinks
>Over 200 AP used today
>Still short 4 Dragon Fangs
YOU'RE TEARING ME APART DELIGHTWORKS.
Where is better to farm for them?
Bone Skeletons in Fuyuki or the 7 AP Dragon Free in France?
RNGs are such a bitch, as soon as I complained, this dropped
I must be stealing your fangs, I got 4 from France 7AP today.
And why would he think it's a weapon if it's even described as a weapon? We can't even possibly know what the fucker considers a weapon, do you see a chair as a weapon? Chopsticks? The thing is described a weapon, he can use it unless you can somehow prove that he won't think of it as a weapon. Because by your logic not even the F-15J is a weapon.
Honestly if you want to seriously calculate damage it's probably best to just use
That way you can just put them on even ground with attribute bonus and eliminate the RNG roll difference.
>the Manaka show
Now there are two of them.
>No Asterios anywhere
In raw energy output yeah, but Ea can do crazy shit like opening dimensional portals to hell and planet cracking as more of a magic effect than something done through straight power.
Ea has always been stronger, but the kicker is that we've never seen Excalibur's true power, since it apparently can only show its true power when protecting the planet.
Some people think this means its meant to fight TYPES, but those people are retarded.
Its not about destroying TYPES; Gaia is weaker than all the other planets, so its elementals aren't going to create something stronger than all the other planets.
The deal is simply "If the planet is in danger, it can finally go all out".
So retards who always want to butt in "Well Ea can't because Excalibut...", you have your answer. Excalibur is stronger than you know because you've never seen its actual power. Therefore you can admit that Ea is also a fuckload stronger than Excalibur as we have yet seen it so far, since we have seen Ea go all out already, now its mainly Excalibur that needs to catch up in terms of appearances.
Its kind of stupid Excalibur gets close anyway, since Ea symbolizes the creation of the planet as of CCC, meaning that nothing can be before it.
Excalibur mainly just matches Ea's beamspam mode, not its anti-world mode. Its supposed to be Avalon that's a counter to Ea, not Excalibur that's holding it down always going "You can't be stronger anymore because I'm supposed to be near you".
Prove that Karna is somehow more skilled than Lancelot then? He has no EAM and has done literally nothing to prove the contrary. By your logic fucking Gilgamesh is more skilled because MUH AGE OF GODS XDDD.
>Because i don't think Lancelot ever saw a castle and think that it's a weapon.
So you are going to ignore descriptions and usage and replace them with your headcanon. I would have never thought that Lancelot saw chopsticks as weapons until he did anyways.
Every time Enuma Elish gets a promotion, Excalibur has got a promotion too though. They're always on the same level with Enuma Elish beating out by a hair, at maximum output, even "anti world mode".
There are none I'd like to see leveled up.
Else I had done so already.
I just need few Saber Monuments to bring Lilly up so I can't do shit besides burning shit into manaprisms.
Think Tokiomi except not as much of a moron. He's outwardly very composed and agreeable, but he still prioritizes the Root over everything else.
He cursed Misaya as per Manaka's instructions, it was meant as a test of loyalty. And Assassin never loved Tatsumi, she killed him in their very first meeting without even bothering to ask his name or letting him finish talking.
This is pure Gilfag headcanon. They weren't talking about the true version used to protect the world. What I mentioned was said before even that thing was ever thought off. Excalibur is the only Last Phantasm known to date (yes, not even EA is that at the moment), and it's used to protect the planet, EA is Anti World, it should have at least equal output in order to protect it from things like EA. We have already seen something similar with Enkidu EA, using the power of the counter force, and the clashes ended up in a tie.
>And Assassin never loved Tatsumi, she killed him in their very first meeting without even bothering to ask his name or letting
so why she puts that face ?
Anyone know the source of that Ozzy and this Gil?
Yeah, it means he was the most skilled during his era, nothing else. His era, his time period. Just because someone from a different era doesn't have EAM doesn't mean they're less skilled than him, it just means the skill cap was different during that time.
Who knows, maybe during the age of gods your average farmer was as skilled as Lancelot.
Anti-World is not Anti-Planet. Ea is Anti-World because it busts Reality Marbles, including Gaia's, but it doesn't really do much to the hunk of rock and molten iron we're actually standing on.
He was easy because you couldn't prepare for him ahead of time, so they just gave you his pieces. He was like a victory lap, someone big to take down that felt like it meant something.
However outside of gameplay, his power is said to be more than phenomenal.
Its said that his power is roughly on par with Kiara, as an entity that rules over three thousand worlds or universes. Even your servant comments before the fight that this guy is absurd.
Even upon being beaten he doesn't poof away; rather your servant notes "Oh, he was simply here to watch over Twice until the end" and then after Twice is dead Buddha just leaves on his own.
Because she's emotionally unstable even on her good days, and seeing a guy she killed as a zombie crawled up in a corner and gargling about how it doesn't want to hurt her, is not good for her mental health.
>Turner of the Wheel [noble phantasm name] P198
>This is Saver’s minor Noble Phantasm. It’s a weapon based on an implement used by usually unarmed Buddha to defeat their enemies.
>Chakravartin (Turner of the Wheel) is the concept of the “ideal universal ruler” that was used in the Vedic period of ancient India.
>The weapon Chakravartin is a 7km wide chakram of light that is expanded into the sky above the Buddha. While revolving slowly, it shoots arrows of light at the Servants within its ring.
>Think of it as a mobile artillery platform that can shoot in any direction. The ring of light is like a rail that the artillery platform moves along.
>The number of rings of light increase each turn, until it has reached the maximum of seven. These seven rings correspond to the seven treasures that the Turner of the Wheel (ruler) possesses.
>The rings are reminiscent of rainbows, and at the peak of battle this weapons ultimate attack “Transmigration Into One” can be activated by calling it’s true name.
>The rings of light combine into one with a clang and the ring starts spinning at high speed. Before long it morphs to resemble the ring that floats behind the Celestial Buddha Variocana, and pillars of light coming from the entire 360 degrees of the ring are focused on the player’s Servant, and the convergence causes a huge explosion that resembles a black hole.
>…Well of course this is a written description that didn’t take production costs into consideration in the slightest, so of course it was axed. I guess if you want this level of visuals, you have to do it in an action game.
>Prove that Karna is somehow more skilled than Lancelot then? He has no EAM and has done literally nothing to prove the contrary. By your logic fucking Gilgamesh is more skilled because MUH AGE OF GODS XDDD
And what part of EAM prove that he's better than Karna who's skill is said to be on the realm of gods? and Karna have UAM which mean he's good (a nominee) but isn't recognized.
>So you are going to ignore descriptions and usage and replace them with your headcanon. I would have never thought that Lancelot saw chopsticks as weapons until he did anyways.
Because it's a castle that's what Lancelot is going to see and think it is, do you think Lancelot see Camelot everyday and think it's weapon? and that he can't corrupt a carrier because it lacks guns?
And a stick isn't far fetched for KoH since the origin of the legend is literally him using a stick.
The guy is saying EA is superior to the Last Phantasm that is made to protect the damn planet, when we have seen a pseudo version of the same concept could easily clash with EA. EA isn't even a fucking Last Phantasm, neither is Enkidu's Enuma Elish.
>■ Charisma A+
>Natural talent for commanding armies. Charisma is a rare talent and it’s said that B rank is enough for even a king.
>■ Counter Hero B
>Reduces the parameters of any hero encountered.
>At Rank B, it reduces all of the opponent’s parameters by two ranks.
>It’s weaker against anti-heroes, reducing their parameters by one rank.
>■ Enlightenment of the Sacred Fig EX
>Protection covering only one who has arrived at the truth of the world, the answer of humanity. A testament of “protecting the world”, called anti-purge protection.
>Unconditionally reduces damage from physical attacks, conceptual attacks, inter-dimensional attacks by an amount equivalent to his own HP. Also shuts out mental interference 100%. If it’s Saver who has attained the EX rank, it should be possible to tranquilly receive even the seven desires of man.
>■ Kalaripayattu EX
>Ancient Indian martial arts. The ancestor of martial arts based on rational thinking that does not really only on power and talent.
>Specialized more toward defense than offense.
>■ Amida Amitabha: Transmigration into One
>Maximum number of targets: 1 person
>The ultimate “anti-individual” Noble Phantasm.
>A kind of teaching to achieve final Moksha, where energies rivaling the law of man’s creation are made to converge on a single person and liberate him from suffering.
>The longer human history is, that is, the wider its expanse is, the greater the damage.
>Theoretically, the humanity of Earth has no way of withstanding this attack.
>On the other hand, it’s weaker against those humans who aren’t quite human, and it can’t completely save individuals of a scale of existence greater than the domain of humanity.
>Amita Amitabha: Transmigration into One [Noble Phantasm] P156
>Amita Amitabha is Saver’s major Noble Phantasm.
>It is the final and greatest stage of his minor Noble Phantasm, Chakravartin: Turner of the Wheel.
>According to the reincarnation ideology centered on the Hindu God of Creation Brahma, all humans are a reincarnation of Brahma, and thus the entire human race is part of the same individual. (The Hindu reincarnation and transmigration timeline is sometimes ignored in our (Type-Moon) works, so don’t be silly and nitpick.)
>According to this ideology, all humans will certainly attain nirvana. (become a Buddha)
>This is because all humans will ultimately attain enlightenment and transmigrate.
>…Uhhh—Well I have no idea what I’m saying anymore, all this transmigration and immortality business isn’t easy you know! Wow! So anyways… (Remainder omitted)
>To cut a long story short Amita Amitabha saves mankind from all its pain and suffering. “Everyone will become one with me through the reincarnation cycle.”
>No mortal being, no human can ever go against this process. (Spoiler ahead) However, the protagonist isn’t alive in the first place, so there remains a tiny chance for him/her to survive this attack. This is because the protagonist has never experienced the pain of living, or the four kinds of suffering (birth, disease, old age, death).
>If the production budget of EXTRA were 10 times larger, we would have included a system where the player would have attained enlightenment through playing the game and thus be able to overcome this attack. [TL NOTE: attain enlightenment = become a Buddha=be able to survive the attack]
>When fighting against Saver we wanted to evoke the feeling that if players don’t win the battle in one turn, this “inescapable game-over attack” would activate.
>By the way, in the game the actual damage is 5,670,000,000.
No, CCC is an absolute attack using the authority of all divine spirits and the Mooncell at once, to rewrite all levels of reality.
The only way to survive is kill her before she uses it.
I'd consider even Angya Manyu CCC to be lesser in a way, since C.C.C is absolute.
No, there are just a bunch of seals that were placed on it by Arthur's knights. The sword can be unsealed if certain conditions are met. Invisible Air is one of the seals, for example. Conditions for unsealing the sword can be stuff like fighting against a more powerful adversary or fighting in an honorable battle.
It's really Arthur's greatest weakness. Under Manaka he's got stats comparable to Saber Alter, but normally he can't spam blasts like Alter can. He's a top tier fighter on his own, with great stats and some decent skills, but he usually doesn't have a trump card against most enemies.
>tfw I'm already starting to forget about halloween liz
Also its confirmed now that C.C.C is an anti-planet type NP
>C.C.C. [Noble Phantasm] P167-168
>Cursed Cutting Crater.
>An anti-planetary Noble Phantasm. It’s an attack that violates the world through BB’s control over Moon Cell.
>It’s also a trap for artificial spiritron hackers.
>By drawing out the maximum potential of BB’s EX skill Potnia Theron, a world purge via rewriting of events is carried out.
Originally it was supposed to be something of an homage to Dark Sakura crushing Zouken; as she becomes a giant and crushes the MC like an insect.
>Yeah, but isn't Authority limited to a sphere of influence? In this case, the Moon Cell?
Within the Mooncell, divine spirits become all they were called on Earth, meaning they become literally as strong as they were called, even if that accidentally means they become stronger than the Mooncell itself. As we have a few fuck ups there, which is why Mooncell tries not to summon those types.
Things from the Mooncell can very much effect Earth, and even can incarnate onto there. Since anything that happens in the Mooncell is real.
>And isn't the Moon Cell a glorified Reality Marble?
Its not a "Glorified reality marble", its the terraformed created world of an Aristotle basically. Its the inner created world of a far higher being that has seen all of the galaxy. If you were to compare it to a reality marble, its millions of times stronger than anything you'd see on Earth. Mooncell has even gained access rights to the planet as a dominant role, so its power is beyond belief. The only thing that's protecting most people is that Mooncell is true neutral, meaning it doesn't create decisions on its own basically. It simply watches and observes.
Gaia as well, the entire planet Earth could be called a reality marble in the same way. Ea's ability is to bust a hole in this reality marble temporarily, and reveal the true primordial Earth that the current world is simply covering up.
Don't fool yourself into downplaying this sort of thing, it is a creature far beyond understanding at even its surface.
I know but he's probably a good Servant if summoned somewhere else since Vlad Tepes/Dracula is known everywhere.
Its said in the Apoc that being summoned in Romania doesn't exactly boost him, but his abilities come out different for sure.
Some anon was posting that quote I forget a lot recently.
Both Vlads can stake things the same, they have comparable stats with one having more AGI and one having more END, but abilities are different. Extra Vlad is designed to be more of a survivor, and Apoc Vlad is more of a defender.
>Arthur is an EX class semen demon
>Arash is an A++ class fucboi
>brynhildr is an EX class yandere semen demon
>ozzy is a K class semen demon
>Paracelsus is a B class semen demon
>Hassan kills before she gets any semen
>jekyll is an EX+ class semen fucboi
>And what part of EAM prove that he's better than Karna who's skill is said to be on the realm of gods?
Being the most skilled by far in an era that includes a girl that is said to have power equal to gods and someone who is said to be on the same level of Karna? Nevermind facing that same guy head on for 3 hours with no apparent problem. Also the "impossible" feats he pulled off during Zero.
Cu is also mentioned to attack with "the speed of the gods", so, fuck, he must be some extremely skilled motherfucker then, better than Lancelot I guess.
>Said to be weaker than Deermud
>Deermud was scared of Lancelot's skill
>Pushed around by Arturia
UAM doesn't really mean anything besides his skills not being recognized, he wasn't unrivaled.
>Because it's a castle that's what Lancelot is going to see and think it is
So when you see a jet flying around you think "weapon" instead of "aircraft"? When you see chopsticks you think "weapon" instead of "something used to eat"?
The problem with the carrier was that it is something that transports weapons instead of a weapon itself, so Lancelot doesn't count it as weapon. Hanging Gardens however, are described as weapons, and they primary function is said to be offense. That shit IS a weapon, unlike the aircraft carrier.
I just want berserker monuments for kintoki's final ascension
>>…Uhhh—Well I have no idea what I’m saying anymore, all this transmigration and immortality business isn’t easy you know! Wow! So anyways… (Remainder omitted)
Who was supposed to say this? Buddha or Nasu?
>>>If the production budget of EXTRA were 10 times larger, we would have included a system where the player would have attained enlightenment through playing the game and thus be able to overcome this attack. [TL NOTE: attain enlightenment = become a Buddha=be able to survive the attack]
>>By the way, in the game the actual damage is 5,670,000,000.
You dun fucked up Nasu.
Liz defeated an origin boosted Gil, so that should put her above both Enkidu and Karna. Vlad Legend of Dracula was said to be able to beat both Achilles and Karna with ease, so he is also higher than the 2 you mentioned.
>Futa Spam, power level autism and fucbois.
Never change /fgog/
Its not "Origin Boosted GIl"
Its Zero Model Gilgamesh, it has none of the intelligence of Gilgamesh, but its considered base divinity or even more, its a living concept at the root of all people that's like the origin of life.
Origin Boost is the thing you unlock after you beat the Zero Model, which can only be used once without your servant shattering.
lvl 75 friend Herc died on first turn on a 40 ap run because he took 3 hits from the hands.
Anything to say Hercfags? Obviously vlad wouldn't have died in the first turn.
They're also the ones who produce the best art of him.
Its Zero, the root of humanity after all. If you trace any root back far enough, you reach Zero, the origin.
It looks something like this.
i honestly feel that herc has a higher chance to get hit than vlad.
when the guy tested the damage every time i noticed herc was on the verge of death by the second wave with both skills used.
Its a very Nasu moment, at the world pulses and space stretches. Nasu confirmed he got inspiration for CCC from Bayonetta as well.
>You dun fucked up Nasu.
It's a reference, its 5,670,000,000 years until Maitreya (the next Buddha) will come and shed enlightenment on the world now that the current Buddha's teachings have been forgotten.
Vlad Legend of Dracula was never agreed on the discussions because it would be an uphill battle against any of them if they actually use their NPs unlike what happened in v2. He is definitely stronger statwise, but NPs would fuck him.
>Being able to use NPs against someone far stronger
It's like you are saying they can beat Goku because MUH NP. They will be dead before they have even charged. And that's if the NPs work at all against his hax regen.
Just the dither effect on the image.
Hax regen that failed after a while and being hit by normal attacks. Hax regen that doesn't work against fire.
And Legend Vlad never was able to deal any significant damage to Karna for example. It would be a really uphill battle both for Vlad and the one fighting him still.
No because Karna's armor is his own skin. The only reason it worked against Achilles is because a loophole in his protection, something that Karna doesn't have to worry about.
And he can just turn himself on fire and Vlad can't try that trick even so. Or just wait until he tries and envelop him with fire. If Karna is fighting full powered it would be a hard battle for Vlad because bad compatibility.
Where can I read the already translated volumes of Fate Prototype?
Arthuria have the magical energy on the level of gods because of the dragon core it's not about her skill and speed isn't skill that would make Achilles the most skilled since he's the fastest hero over ALL era and he doesn't even have EAM.
Yes it's decribed as weapon but what Lancelot is going to see is a castle, like i said do you really think that if it's an aircraft carrier with more guns Lancelot can corrupt it? what matters is Lancelot perception and it's hard thinking of a tangible weapon when all he sees is a wall.
the jet is still likened to an chariot and the chopstick is a stick it's not far fetched when the legend is about him using a fucking elm branch as weapon.
>—Space is stretching. Ahead of us lies the point of “origin,” stripped of all ornament, all physicality. The farthest point that became the cause of the birth of the entity known as Gilgamesh, at which the entity known as Gilgamesh will ultimately arrive. In other words, zero.
>Gilgamesh :: This is as far as I can see you. What lies ahead is a man who lived wild, not yet knowing death.
>Gilgamesh’s previously perfectly clear voice is breaking up. I suppose as we get closer and closer to that point, the “present” Gilgamesh will no longer be able to intervene.
>Gilgamesh :: I have no words to exchange with bare divinity. Crush it completely.
>…stronger than the sound of the world’s pulse. This is — the form of the origin, unknown even to Gilgamesh —!
>Elizabeth :: —Hm. I was wondering just how ugly it would look, but that outfit’s not so bad. It’s the form of a proper heroic spirit, unlike a monster like me. I suppose that’s what I should expect of your Servant, Hakuno Kishinami.
>Lancer…Elizabeth starts to smile. It’s a mix of the excitement of facing a powerful enemy — and the sorrow of finding a light one can never reach.
Here are thighs stats for anyone else wondering.
Gilgamesh is always fucking around Hakuno before Hakuno does something so batshit insane that would even impress Pre-Hakuno Gilgamesh then he declares Hakuno as the only person who has the right of 'Master' over him
I wouldn't be surprised if the Gawain cutscene was Gilgamesh telling Hakuno to do something I approve THEN I help you
In CCC he doesn't give two shits when people insult him, his rule or his way of life as long as they MEAN it, he even finds it endearing
Karna is literally the sun god child anon, that fire is sun fire. And fire is one of vampire's traditional weakness, and is mentioned in Apo v2 that Karna's prana burst fire was actually working on him because of said weakness. So yes, it works.
Yes, and still was said that the damage dealt by that stake was absolutely insignificant. We are talking about the armor that in v5 tanks a Balmung direct hit as if it was nothing.
Yes brother! A thousand praises to the great Ozzy! The King of Kings' glory knows no bounds!
Where does it say she has the power and energy of a god? People seem to make up more of this bullshit on the spot each time and then decide its simply correct.
Dragons are top tier phantasmal beasts, only topped by things like forgotten primordial beasts and maybe some other unknown types, but people really underestimate divine creatures. Its plainly stated in Tamamo's entry that its silly or stupid to even try to compare Ammy to any human spirit. Its said that any servant would be as nothing to her, as only Arc stands a real chance.
Divine types are like that, even if they take several tiers of debuffs to be summoned into a mold they are still monsters. In their full form they are things beyond simple scale as BB who became all powerful was said to reach the level of true divine majesty.
>trying to ascend both Jing Ke and Ushi
>both need a fuckload of ghost lanterns
Now the blue version
>Enkidu's NP will be Quick so the green card matches his green hair
Oh, Ozzy. Will my grandchildren be around to witness your glory?
One thing is his stakes and other his fangs. His stakes were able to pierce the armor because they were NP tier. That wasn't said about his fangs. And it's not that everything can just pierce it and the damage is reduced, the armor is fucking though (A rank actually) and even if pierced the damage reductions makes the attack even weaker.
And as it was said, Karna can just envelop himself with fire and Vlad would get fucked if he tries that.
>Until Death Do Us Part. [noble phantasm] P207
>The anti-heart Noble Phantasm that BB bestows upon the Alter Egos.
>This Noble Phantasm is the product of an illegal modification to a normal Noble Phantasm, so its name and effects deviate slightly from the original.
>The servant that became the material used for this Noble Phantasm is the Valkyrie Brynhildr from the Volsunga Saga.
>This Noble Phantasm is the spear of love and hate that Brynhildr brandishes to get her revenge on her husband Sigurd who betrayed her and damaged her honor and reputation.
>Strictly speaking it’s not a true spear. It is Brynhildr’s intense feelings of love and hate toward her husband that have taken the shape of a spear.
>The deeper the love one has for the target of this Noble Phanstasm, the more accurate and damaging it becomes. This weapon will never let their loved one get away, even if their love is completely one-sided. The immediate death effect comes from Passionlip’s Trash & Crash.
>By the way, the original design had a grab and throw move.
>If it locked on to you, you were done for. It would also increase Passionlip’s defense rating 10x, putting her in a super armored state where there is no worry of being significantly damaged. Passionlip advances like a heavy tank, and her claws that changed into the shape of lips would devour the enemy.
>Then, due to using too much power when clenching her claws, her claws would pierce through herself, and both her and her target would take huge damage, and both be wiped out… or something like that.
Of course! All of his subjects will be granted the pleasure of basking in his radiant presence!
Soon brother! The King of Kings will grace us loyal followers with his presence when the time is right! He will not leave us in suspense for much longer!
>and speed isn't skill that would make Achilles the most skilled since he's the fastest hero over ALL era and he doesn't even have EAM.
Attack speed and movement speed are not the same. Don't confuse one with the other, also, that was just to show that just because it says "gods" it doesn't really mean it's anything spectacular.
>Yes it's decribed as weapon but what Lancelot is going to see is a castle,
It's both described as a weapon and used for offense.
>like i said do you really think that if it's an aircraft carrier with more guns Lancelot can corrupt it?
Depends, what was said about KoH is not how he looked at the thing but about it's functionality. Aircraft carrier = more about carrying weapons and mobility, than actual weapon. Hanging Gardens = Weapon used for offense. It's all up to Lancelot though, maybe he sees a chopstick as a weapon but not a taser as a weapon.
The jet is an aircraft, and depending on the chariot, it might have more mobility uses than weapon uses.
Him using an elm branch as weapon should already tell you how bizarre Lancelot perspective of a weapon is.