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Literally Dead Game Edition

>>> NEWS <<<
11/19 Weekly Update
https://www.bungie.net/en/News/News?aid=14015

2.0.2 Update
https://www.bungie.net/en/News/News?aid=13940

December: Weapon / Class Balance patch.

>>> LINKS <<
Stalk your ToO opponents: http://www.destinytrialsreport.com/
Infusion Calculator: http://mattaltepeter.com/destiny
Looking for game: http://www.destinylfg.com or http://www.destinylfg.net

What Xûr sold: http://xurday.com/
Assorted /dg/ OC: http://imgur.com/a/trzBw
Check anyone's status: http://destinystatus.com/

Ghost locations: http://destinyghosthunter.net/
All grimoire cards:http://www.ishtar-collectivenet/
TTK grimoire cards: http://www.ishtar-collective.net/releases/the-taken-king
Calcified Fragments: http://destinycalcifiedfragments.com/
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Anyone for Nightfall? need 2 runs but dont mind staying for a third
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Haven't played for a couple weeks. What the hell is this refer a friend shit?
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TITANS

LEAD

THE

WAY

also 4/6 for raid pls respond

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iDOLM@STER Thread
Previous iM@S Thread: >>123181636
Archive of materials: http://www.yukipo.com/
Cinderella Girls carddex: http://cgdex.project-imas.com
Project iM@S wiki: http://www.project-imas.com/wiki/
iDOLM@STER 2 gameplay wiki: http://imas2.wota.info
One For All gameplay wiki: http://idolmasterofa.wikia.com
Japanese news: http://imasnews765.com
Japanese news (translated): http://imasnews765tl.wordpress.com
Japanese information database: http://imas-db.jp
Japanese SideM wiki: http://wikiwiki.jp/sidem/
Official upcoming events schedule: http://idolmaster.jp/schedule/index.php
Streaming music: http://shijou.moe/imas-radio
CG side materials translation: http://cgtranslation.blogspot.kr
Starlight Stage guide: http://moeidolatry.com/starlight/
Starlight Stage APKs: https://fuyu.me/apk/
Please check the archive of materials if you're looking for something.

Ongoing:
October 27th to November 25th: One For All DLC Catalog 11 discount
October 3rd to late November: Official iDOLM@STER store in Osaka
September 29th to December 31st: The iDOLM@STER 10th ANNIVERSARY animate Fair
October 6th to December ???: Crane King/Ichiban Kuji iDOLM@STER Web Radio Lottery with Makoto's VA
October 3rd to March 29th: Official iDOLM@STER store in Chiba
September 17th to April 17th: MILLION LIVE! 3rdLIVE TOUR promotional campaign

Upcoming:
November 21st: THE iDOLM@STER STATION!!! public recording at Yokohama Bay Hall
November 23rd: Miki's birthday
November 25th: CINDERELLA GIRLS ANIMATION PROJECT 2nd Season 07 "M@GIC"
November 26th: Cinderella Girls anime BD volume 6 and CG G4U volume 6
November 27th: Cinderella Girls anime manga begins in ComicREX
November 28th and 29th: CINDERELLA GIRLS 3rdLIVE シンデレラの舞踏会 – Power of Smile – concert at Makuhari Messe

Latest news post: >>123181834
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>>123240150
the Upcoming section could use an update, it's already 24th
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I dunno about you, but I kinda enjoy the calm before the storm.
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Rin is my wife™

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[CENSORED] - Inappropriate for Western audiences.

>What is Blade & Soul?
Blade & Soul is a Korean fantasy martial-arts MMORPG developed by Team Bloodlust(NCsoft). The game is heavily grounded in Chinese culture and martial-arts, and was praised for its dynamic combat and high skill-cap PvP. Currently in Korea, its one of the most played games and even has an esports scene that is fairly popular.

>Whats is the class system like?
Currently there are 8 classes with only 7 on NA release. There is no trinity of roles but instead, certain classes act as tanks in PvE while most classes have a self heal or lifesteal ability. Another unique thing is how classes can interact with each others CC to use certain abilities, such as grabs and tackles.

>Why is it getting such an uproar now?
The North American Version of Blade & Soul was recently announced and is entering Closed Beta Testing soon.

>Weekend 3: Nov 24, 10am PST - Nov 30, 10pm PST
https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/forums/index.php?/topic/139611-welcome-to-the-blade-soul-closed-beta/

>Skill tree preview
https://bnstree.com/ (ahead of NA version)

>Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/COSTUMES

>Discord Link
https://discord.gg/0diTt6guoS0dG2Nj

>Official Confirmed Beta Clans
Mushin is main server Iksanun is the secondary server if you don't want queue times.

You can choose a faction in Bamboo Village. If one is full, you can switch later in Jadestone village
>Clans:
NFA - Mushin, Red Faction
H Scene - Iksanun, Blue Faction

Make a post replying to the OP with your IGN and server for an invite.

>More Info (including BnS TW, character presets and class rundowns):
http://pastebin.com/9ztU0NcY

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Beta soon.
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First for dominant Gon girls.
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Just censor my [CENSOR] up baka desu senpai

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Nearing December edition

>Monster Hunter X
https://youtu.be/qmVDd6JmlUM
https://youtu.be/8ZABhVmzhX0
Demo available now, and there's a copy in the 'bin. Full game Nov 28 in Japan only.

>I have a question!
http://pastebin.com/VxRdN5db
Includes links to the FAQ, weapon guides, charm info, and more.

http://kiranico.com/en/mh4u
Database with weapon trees, item locations, drop rates, etc.

https://sites.google.com/site/pingsdex
Same thing, in application form.

>Where does /vg/ play?
In 4U, create or find a Gathering Hall
Hunter Type: High/G/Expert
Target: Fishing (it's 4 to the left)
Passcode: 7243 / Search

Tags: MHX, MH4U, MH3U, MHP3rd, MHFU, MonHun, /mhg/, MHF, MHO

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Cutest
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why won't narga stop trying to change areas fer fooks sake

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Previous Thread:
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Main Page:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page

>FAQ:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ

>Pastebin containing relevant info:
http://pastebin.com/pkVWgKxm

>Videos:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos

>2016 Winter Cup:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2016_4chan_Winter_Cup

>/vg/ League 5:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_5

Previously:
ded hours
shitposting
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>making a new thread when I had asked not to do it
Fuck you too, Nomo
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1st for /c/

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Artificial Academy 2 General /aa2g/ #574

Pomf Edition

Welcome, this general is for the discussion of ILLUSION's Artificial Academy 2.

COPY ERROR MESSAGES WITH CTRL+C, PASTE THEM WITH CTRL+V INTO GOOGLE TRANSLATE. STOP ASKING US BEFORE DOING THAT. JUST CLICK THE WINDOW AND PRESS CTRL + C, IT WORKS.

>Information:
Main Site: http://www.illusion.jp/preview/jg2/index.html
Append I Info: http://www.illusion.jp/preview/jg2/append/index.html
Append II Info: http://www.illusion.jp/preview/jg2/append2/index.html
Purchase: http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=LTD-PCG-03693
Download: http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=481633
Download for All Updates: http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=1189198
Character Database: http://no-info.no-ip.info/aa2/index.html

Please read through the AA2 pastebin for mods and info (READ BEFORE ASKING):
http://pastebin.com/BhpfXqHP
FAQ Image (READ BEFORE ASKING): https://madokami.com/q2yxlj.jpg

Installation Guide (READ BEFORE ASKING): http://pastebin.com/kdr1kv20
Supplement to the Install Guide, with Pictures: http://imgur.com/a/KZYsw

/aa2g/ Modder's Reference Guide (Slot lists for Hair/Clothes/Faces, List Guides and more):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gwmoVpKuSuF0PtEPLEB17eK_dexPaKU106ShZEpBLhg/edit#gid=1751233129

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AA1 aloof an absolute best!
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muh dik
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Harsh and aloof are cute! Cute!

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Orgasming Waifu General Edition

http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/blog/19964704/

All invites in this wave/stress test have been sent out.

Game is $40 on PC for all launch characters. $60 with some cosmetics. Also on PS4 and XBONE. Blizz refuses to discuss post launch content at this point.

Overwatch is a first person shooter made by Blizzard. The closed beta is live but you aren't invited.

>Main Site
http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/

>Twitter
https://twitter.com/PlayOverwatch

>Overwatch Game Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgTenq3s-YesFgb-CPI6yIPpp4K9xot7LhTBo3Tm0Pk/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

>List of /vg/ battletags (post yours in the thread if you want to be added to it)
http://tygla.com/owgnames.txt

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>it's already 20 minutes past the end of the maintenance
>still authenticating
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Just thought i would leave this here.
Enjoy your #safespace hugbox neutered fps experience.

Metzen stated that "we have a long legacy of developing multiplayer games, and it came down to 'is it even possible to build a shooter that doesn't feel cynical, that doesn't feel cruel, that doesn't feel nasty? Can you build one that really promotes teamwork and relationship and having fun with your friends, and not getting killed with a thrown knife from halfway across the map as soon as you jump in?'"[14]

-Rabbi Chris Metzen Shekelstein

Also enjoy paying full price for a game that will still follow a f2p microtransaction model :^)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ao76E3lLo

Brad is such a shitter, holy fuck.

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General Info:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T8cObkaXeOrFRfg_QhxisioyEWdNzGPqe3mUJHEgFF4

>Extalia
8x/2x/5x v163 GMS-like. Most populated private server. Has one-half of a Kanna. Apply to 2Kowai.
http://maple.extalia.net

>Ellinia
5x/1x/2x v162.4 GMS-like. Dream server. On life support.
https://maple.ellinia.net/

>Dawnveil
4x/1x/2x v167 GMS-like. Soon. Will it be good? Who fucking knows.
https://www.dawnveil.net/

>GMS/EMS/JMS/KMS
EVERYONE WHO PLAYS THE OFFICIAL SERVERS IS SPREAD OUT. SERVER TRANSFERS, GO TO WINDIA OR WHATEVER.
Apply to Waifus/Casuals if you're in Windia, Spooky for Bera.
http://maplestory.nexon.net

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what's best place to farm cubes and gachs for mesos in Extalia?
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>>122664658
and there's the actual previous thread, if you're into that kind of thing.
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>>123202740
Why didn't you name it REBOOT edition
http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/5110/v-168--reboot-update-preview

>Latest news
- Max cape extension & HP insurance
- Deadman mode tweaks
- Deadman mode and Halloween event released
- Abyssal Bludgeon Stuff
- Max cape and Geomancy spell
- Deadman Mode release date announced


>I haven't played in months, what did I miss?
http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?380,381,thd,136,65546107

>/RS07/ Infodoc (READ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1--e4eVMtEgoyUJUoxyFNFIuXJO2CR_y_YzElBUa9UgA/pub

>/RS07/ Highscores and XP Tracker
http://rs07g.com/

>Prices
https://rsbuddy.com/exchange/

>Communication
Home World: 327
Clan Chat: OSG
Mumble: aaathats3as.com
Website: http://oldschool.runescape.com/oldschool_index

>Twitter
https://twitter.com/OldSchoolRS - https://twitter.com/JagexMatK - https://twitter.com/JagexAsh
https://twitter.com/JagexJohnC - https://twitter.com/JagexRonan - https://twitter.com/JagexArchie
https://twitter.com/Jagex_Ghost - https://twitter.com/Jagex_Ian - https://twitter.com/JagexWeath
https://twitter.com/JagexAlfred - https://twitter.com/JagexMaz - https://twitter.com/JagexKieren
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>>123202010
nice picture
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EWOLFE FOR MOD 2016
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DEADMAN BEST MODE

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Russian machine never break

***NEW MERC SOON™: Thunder***

Big fuckin Russian bear with gun and tacticool turtleneck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtOpP4QJa9k

>What the fuck is this shit?
Dirty Bomb's a free to play FPS and successor to games like Enemy Territory or Brink

>Is it p2w?
No. Merc unlocking system is very similar to LoL's champion unlocks.
There are also loadout cards with different rarity, but those aren't going to make you less shit at the game, and everything above bronze is purely cosmetic
You can easily craft them by trading up the dozens of crap lead cards you get

>How the loadout system works:
http://stealth-nerf.com/dirty-bomb-the-loadout-system-explained/

>Loadout/weapon/augment charts
http://forums.dirtybomb.nexon.net/discussion/12972/the-db-genome-project-everything-there-is-to-know-about-loadouts

>Recommended loadouts (Updated but still a WIP - Not quite finished, give your feedback)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/etdws8bydkfiw1a/dbgloadoutguide2.0.png?dl=0

>How do I get this game?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/333930/

>Wiki:
http://dirtybomb.gamepedia.com

>Join our steam group and play with us:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vgdb

>Wanna play competitive?
http://dirtycups.gg/

>Tweaks and HUD customization
http://pastebin.com/iHnY6YWe

>Sick6's FPS config:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ps51vb

>Singleplayer map practice and testing commands
http://pastebin.com/ePz8VnJd

Basics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LJUmnLDpDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGdwdnyWB0

Advanced:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CsMPX6800Y
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1st for Proxy
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3rd for ded

Katawa Shoujo General #2845

Hot and Crispy Edition !

Last thread: >>123015472

Official website (Katawa Shoujo is free!): http://www.katawa-shoujo.com/
#KSGGames (Risk/Chess IRC Chat): http://pastebin.com/eaqK2kPq
Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/Wp8y08x2
Writebin: http://pastebin.com/8NpPmBHp
KSG FAQ: http://pastebin.com/6Z28iW1x
Shimmie: http://shimmie.katawa-shoujo.com/
Katawa Crash: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q0inlk1zmd1drzl/katawa_crash_beta_8-36.exe and http://ks.renai.us/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3071
Katawa Shoujo Lite: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/608881
Desktop Katawas: http://www.mediafire.com/?ogvo1fh7d5x36j9
KS Interactive Shrink: http://www.writing.com/main/interact/item_id/1858014-Katawa-Shoujo-shrink
Passwords for Shrink: http://bugmenot.com/view/writing.com
KSG Map: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=776666
KS Alpha: http://pastebin.com/weL41ehu
Flockdraw: http://skycow.us/whiteboard
3D-Printable Katawa Figurines: http://ks.renai.us/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=10195.swf
/ksg/ exclusive 3DS themes: https://mega.nz/#!3hkznbaR!Zu_0gWDvitQspHUaEhtUeLG7iJhK4Q_79MpXaASkrQo
KSG IRC room: #/ksg/
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Emi is best girl tied with Shizune, Hanako, Misha and Rin
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>>123201225
Lilly
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I hope there's not another civil war over which bread to migrate to.

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/rlg/ News:

The public release of ADoM is out on steam; shouldn't be too long until a new torrent is up.

Crawl .17 Tournament is over, "rlgs BIG BLACK THROBBING Macabre Finger Necklace" won second place (yay!)

Congrats to "a farewell to throwing aptitudes", the tournament winners!

/rlg/ Info:

FAQ: http://pastebin.com/Q7K91Q34
What to play: http://pastebin.com/dyPKMEBv
Rogue Nexus – Cataclysm Online and more: http://roguenex.us

ADoM pastas: http://pastebin.com/VaH5UVN8
AliensRL pasta: http://pastebin.com/20ZTFzwZ
Angband pasta: http://pastebin.com/j8SSFvCT
Brogue pasta: http://pastebin.com/nkUaca3N
Cataclysm DDA pasta: http://pastebin.com/UAqhKZfc
Caves of Qud pasta: http://pastebin.com/0ExECmUn
DCSS pasta: http://pastebin.com/6Nz5cuww
DF Adventure Mode pasta: http://pastebin.com/7HB7Tc1y
DoomRL pasta: http://pastebin.com/2vZsvsfD
Elona pasta: http://pastebin.com/tU9qkAqt
InCaveAd pasta: http://pastebin.com/HeDX5yNK
Incursion pasta: http://pastebin.com/Q87xYnBq
Infra Arcana pasta: http://pastebin.com/jMb7fZfN
IVAN pasta: http://pastebin.com/GnJeGWTT
MaiDenSnow Eve pasta: http://pastebin.com/BJFyCUnS
NetHack pasta: http://pastebin.com/XRp5mBhz
Omega pasta: http://pastebin.com/0vkDNuyX
One Way Heroics pasta: http://pastebin.com/jFh3nrxy
PosChengband: http://pastebin.com/ZLZZz45j
Prospector pasta: http://pastebin.com/DjPrRQu8
Sil pasta: http://pastebin.com/NRyD5jtt
ToME 4 pasta: http://pastebin.com/GVDJksuM
UnReal World pasta: http://pastebin.com/QfgkYkNA

Other roguelikes without a pasta (get to work to make one!):

Forays to Norrendin: http://forays.github.io/

Demon: http://demon.ferretdev.org/

TheGroundGivesWay: http://www.thegroundgivesway.com/

Quest for the unicorn: http://www.elf-emulation.com/rcs/unicorn5/index.html

Old fist: >>123055765
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>>123199214
So I've heard.
Well the most stupid deaths were altar deaths, playing mist elves (fucking 8 HP) and getting carless around the lesser vault in the PC, due to frustration that there wasn't a single altar and I had metric tons of unidentified gear.

I usually go Unassuming Cave>(Infinite Dungeon, if I play something weak)>City Dungeon>Puppy Cave/Druid Dungeon.
Afterwards I though I could search for the weaker random dungeons, but I guess I could also go straight for CoC.
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You can save the puppy cave for later, the quest doesn't ever become unavailable and at low levels it's a death trap. You can always safely skip the first cave unless you're hoping for an altar or something.

Happy Purrthday Edition!

>CURRENT TOTAL PLEDGED
$1,086,075

>NEWS FEEDS
Official Website (contains links to Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr accounts:) http://indivisiblegame.com/index.php?page=0
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSvJctUjDhlGS3jFwlhSB-g/feed?&ab_channel=IndivisibleRPG

>LATEST NEWS
The Indivisible IndieGoGo Campaign is LIVE!: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/indivisible-rpg-from-the-creators-of-skullgirls#/
We got the Extension! +20 Days to get $600k more!

>SKULLGIRLS STUFF

BEFORE YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT INFINITE COMBOS, WATCH THIS: [YouTube] Understanding Resets vs Combos

> FOR NEW PLAYERS:
Combos to get you started: http://skullgirls.com/forums/index.php?threads/general-bnb-compendium.4072/
New to Fighting Games: http://pastebin.com/hnvQMbXz

Skullgirls Info: http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Skullgirls
Steam Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/245170/guides/

> FAQ AND OTHER INFO:
FAQ: http://skullgirls.com/forums/index.php?threads/skullgirls-faq-updated-to-not-be-ancient.386/
Steam Chart: http://steamcharts.com/app/245170
/sgg/ album: http://www.mediafire.com/download/9b02vpj9vvot9x2/sgg+album.zip

> FORUMS:
Official Skullgirls Forum: http://www.skullheart.com
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SaltCrossPuns
For Australians: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SGAUTZ
Skullheart IRC: https://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?channel=%23skullgirls&server=irc.mizuumi.net%20%27

> GAME UPDATES: (Game is done being updated but we can keep this I guess)
Live Patch Notes: http://steamcommunity.com/games/245170/announcements/
Beta Patch Notes: http://steamcommunity.com/games/208610/announcements/

> OFFICIAL MERCH:
EightySixed: http://www.eightysixed.com/collections/skullgirls
Sanshee: http://www.sanshee.com/

> OFFICIAL STREAMS:
Lab Zero (Random), Salty! or Rebel Up (Fridays), Saturday Night Salt
http://skullgirls.com/forums/index.php?streams

> THUNDERCLAP
https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/34635-indivisible-rpg-funding-drive
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Filia.
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First for Shantae has the brownest skin
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soon edition

>What's new?
New map soon. Also store sale for good goyim.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19960704/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-november-17-2015-11-17-2015

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
FAQ | Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/raynor
News, Updates, and Datamining: http://www.heroesnexus.com/

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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>123198227
>Tiniest .gif in the world edition
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heroes with the highest skill ceiling? currently thinking about buying Aba desu

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you let the thread die edition

>DARK SOULS 3
>Gameplay Trailer
[YouTube] DARK SOULS Ⅲ トレーラー第1弾 【gamescom 2015】 (embed)
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_dark_souls_iii_gc_gameplay_reveal-35231_en.html
>Announcement Trailer
[YouTube] Dark Souls III - Announcement Trailer (embed)
>Screenshots & Artwork
Official: https://imgur.com/a/GUjb3
Leaked: https://imgur.com/a/c08Bb
New screenshots & artwork: http://imgur.com/a/5fhcQ
>Interviews
http://pastebin.com/PUSbw02s
>Gameplay
http://pastebin.com/yWzzuVV1

>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf
http://flockmod.com/dsg


>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

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>>123197553
someone just added me to tell me that im a noob for using a rapier
this was after he disconnected
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>>123197805
Noob
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Anyone else still invading AL? Post you are builds.

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