Comfy Edition
Old >>148210649
>I've been away from the game a while and what's new?
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/info/updates
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Release
>F2P information
https://help.guildwars2.com/entries/95982157-Account-types-Free-Core-HoT
>GW2 Wiki (type /wiki [article name] in-game to open browser):
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Main_Page
>Redposting
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/info/devtracker
>I Need a Build But I Won't Say for What Mode
http://metabattle.com/wiki/MetaBattle_Wiki
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/
>Content
http://gw2dungeons.net/
http://dulfy.net/category/gw2/
>The Mistwar
http://wvwintel.com/
>World Boss Train
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Event_timers
http://gw2.ninja/timer
>Fashion Endgame
http://argos-soft.net/GW2/ArmorGallery/
http://www.gw2armorgallery.com/
>Simple Traveling Merchant Data
http://gw2bltc.com/
http://www.gw2shinies.com/
https://www.gw2spidy.com/
https://gw2efficiency.com/
>Crafting
http://gw2crafts.net/
>Roleplay Resources
http://www.Guildwars2roleplayers.com/
http://gw2.aculeo.org/
>Misc Fun Shit
http://tooltips.thatshaman.com/
http://www.tyria3d.com/
http://gw2dps.com/
>Writebin
http://pastebin.com/kRR6ZV7W
Guild Wars 2 /vg/ Guilds:
NA [HOPE]: Tarnished Coast, whisper Oothier, Vitto Mortemsen, Bonkk, Mexay Renatus, Peachy Panic, Rijakk, or Riathen
EU [FUN]: Seafarer's Rest, whisper Farfelu, Aktium, Nalynea, Mo Zing Miko, or Kealdrix
-Servers only matter for WvW and instancing.
-If no one is online, send a mail.
-If you are F2P, leave your name and region on the thread.
Where were you when you got wasted with your femcharr wife?
Also wow, I just noticed how "cozy" those walls look.
DELIA NOW EDITION
Delia Reveal Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_vcBOZs5gU
Attendance event and raid bingo: http://vindictus.nexon.net/news/14584/noble-princess-events
When asking for help, trading, or applying to any guild, post your character name and specify which server you're on.
>Joining a guild
Open the guild window and search for the guild (East: no_fun or West: pawnshop for NA guilds)
Post in the general with your name and your server to let us know you have applied, you may also whisper a guild admin to speed up this process.
(We do this so that we know you're a huge faggit and not some filthy fucking pub.)
>The Guilds
EAST: No Fun Allowed, ch. 123
WEST: Pawnshop Ghosts, ch. 179
EU: Filthy Casuals, ch. 130
AUS: TeaChasers
if this general even reaches 100 posts before it dies it will be a christmas miracle
posts delia
>>148454809
>100
NOPE
WHY ARE THE GLOVES GREEN
Knight 2nd Awakening out Now!
Act 05. Part 1. Guildpact
http://www.dfoneople.com/news/updates/406/Overview
Act 05. Part 2.
http://www.dfoneople.com/news/updates/434/Overview
DnF Updates:
http://www.dfonexus.com/threads/summer-2016-update-reveal-information-compilation.12010/#post-312054
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLT_ave5lcQ [Embed] [Embed]
ANTON GUIDE:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T4uCWBAsJAGxds0juJxU60TGQe5fJCJHkYlKdO9nuJA/preview?pli=1
>Liberation weapon FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/7vRmMbnD
>NEW EVENTS LISTED HERE
http://www.dfoneople.com/news/events
Fatigue Points(FP) resets at 9AM UTC
>Official Links
http://www.dfoneople.com
http://facebook com/dfoglobal
http://dfo-notice.blogspot.kr
>PVP playlist channels
https://www.youtube.com/user/Chengomango/playlists
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKkzSym6LVRhjvrQxr6sFeA
>Guilds
ask in the thread
>Wiki
http://wiki.dfo.world
>Avatar Simulator(Set to KOR)
http://dnf.exrpg.com/avatar/
>Skill Planner (Entirely unnecessary)
http://dnf.duowan.com/s/jnmn/gjs.html
>Pixiv Tags
アラド戦記 – Arad Senki
던파 – Deonpa
DNF
>Voicepacks
https://mega.co.nz/#F!R5ByyQSR!Jy-BF-7Fk59XmGnrKVaP-Q
>JP Priest voice
https://mega.co.nz/#!QB0jjZZT!wbE08Q5SsML1leUpVngeLbM6cHY_Gbt0UK0tmXgZGmI
>DnF Original Soundtrack Symphony World
http://pastebin.com/LfzTQcDh
>Touhou Music Pack
http://pastebin.com/yRLzz58L
>Mods Installation Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bzDeYgfdckqgfqtc60OpNTAhUcOiu53LMa_qFJ5LWvI/preview#
Previous thread:
>>148266821
Lets post.
>>148432575
post bug bugs
BUGBUGS
/rsg/ - Runescape General
furry planet edition
Official World: 42
Official FC: "grindanfc"
Clan: GrindanScape (For an invite, go into the FC and ask for one. No requirements.)
>Official runescape 2017 survey time
http://services.runescape.com/m=news/a=579/runescape-2017-survey--now-live?jptg=ia&jptv=community_news
>I've been inactive, what did I miss over the past x years
http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Update:Game_updates
>Latest Update
services.runescape.com/m=news/4th-july-event--vic-the-trader-is-back--patch-notes?jptg=ia&jptv=community_news
>Latest Patch Notes
http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/l=0/sl=0/forums.ws?15,16,461,65809432
>Money Making Guide
http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Mmg
>Gear Guide (Very outdated)
http://services.runescape.com/m=itemdb_rs/gear_guide
>July's BTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfiCN62Xd_o [Embed]
1st for End of Combat sucks
2nd for Quests suck
3rd for le reddit army has arrived
iDOLM@STER Thread
Previous iM@S Thread: >>148376026
Archive of materials: http://www.yukipo.com/
Japanese news: http://imasnews765.com
Official upcoming events schedule: http://idolmaster.jp/schedule/index.php
Streaming music: http://shijou.moe/imas-radio
CG material translation archive: http://pastebin.com/jf7CiTya
CG discography archive: http://pastebin.com/fX7fpxrU
ML material translation archive: http://pastebin.com/3yynKCtQ
ML discography archive: http://pastebin.com/jtCYhgrA
New here? Question about the games? Check out the FAQ and Resource Links:
http://pastebin.com/jMdrYzmg
Please check the archive of materials if you're looking for something older, or check the most recent news post for newer things.
Ongoing:
May 6th to August 28th: iM@S Platinum Stars theme for PS4 releases (free for a limited time)
Upcoming:
July 19th: Azusa Miura's Birthday
July 20th: Platinum Master 00 Happy! releases
July 27th: SideM ST@RTING LINE 11 Altessimo and 12 Kogadou release
July 27th: Cinderella Girls STARLIGHT MASTER 04 Seizon Honnou Valkyria
July 27th: Mika and Rika figma (anime-version)
July 28th: iDOLM@STER Platinum Stars (PS4) releases
August 10th: Million Radio Theme Song 2 releases
August 24th: Cinderella Girls 3rdLIVE BDs
August 29th: Makoto Kikuchi's Birthday
August 31st: SideM 2nd Anniversary Disc 02 releases
August ???: Cinderella Project Minichu and Love Laika Anastasia figure
September 1st: Wild Wind Girl volume 1 (+CD)
September 7th: LIVE THE@TER ACTIVITIES 01 releases
September 9th: Kotori Otonashi's Birthday
September 21st: Million Live Backstage volume 2
September 24th: Million Live Anthology volume 3
Latest news posts: >>148303010 + >>148303134 + >>148303260
>Touma
>Ai
Non-reds go and stay go.
>>148420482
Only relevant reds are represented.
Megumi Happy!
Buff Jing Wei edition
PC 3.12 - Mid Season Update
https://www.smitegame.com/new-in-smite-mid-season-update-3-12-patch-notes/
XBO & PS4 3.12 - Mid Season Update
https://www.smitegame.com/smite-console-mid-season-update-3-12-patch-notes-2/
Season Ticket 2016 (Fantasy League)
http://smite.gamepedia.com/Season_Ticket_2016
Get Curse Voice Apollo & Curse Agni playing with Curse Voice
https://www.curse.com/games/smite
FAQ for all game-related questions
http://pastebin.com/M4TZPpe8
/smgen/ Discord
https://discord.gg/0sWDnznwq6C7w9bW
The SMITE clans are SmGen (NA) and GenSm (EU), leaders are SethPhalange and HardyMcWilly respectively.
Post your name in the thread or send an invite to one of the leaders.
Previous Thread
>>148164556
'SCUSE ME BEST GIRL COMIN THRU
H8RS NEED NOT APPLY
#IWokeUpLikeThis
Top kali
>Tfw still play Jing Wei even without the golden bow
I am faithful
Aria edition
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READ THE PASTEBIN TO KEEP UP-TO-DATE ON EVENTS AND NEWS!
<Updated 07/09/16>
http://pastebin.com/BAi9nL3e (embed)
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Discord: Ask in the thread for an invite link.
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<SERVERS>
>Aries
8x/4x/6x v174+ (Updates alongside GMS). Shit. Don't listen to shills.
http://aries.elluel.net/
Apply to Memebois by whispering herbniqqa.
>Ellinia
5x/1x/2x v162.4 Dream server. Dead.
https://maple.ellinia.net/
>BUDDY SUZURAN OR KEKCRO FOR HELP
>Lumiere
6x/3x/2x v.174. No website right now, but they've got a discord. https://discordapp.com/invite/EkPQ2qN Releases on the 20th of July. Basically Dawnveil.
>GMS/EMS/JMS/KMS
EVERYONE WHO PLAYS THE OFFICIAL SERVERS IS SPREAD OUT. POST YOUR IGN AND MAYBE YOU'LL FIND SOMEONE TO PLAY WITH.
Apply to Waifus/Casuals on Windia - Pay2Win on Reboot.
http://maplestory.nexon.net
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>Theme of the thread: Post cute maples RIGHT NOW.
Previous thread: >>148096084
>>148411782
oopsie poopsy, wrong first link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t__lF8naEGM
and the other one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeYUAPjfOOU
>>148411886
>wrong first link
No it wasn't brahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlfJx1aDmR4&feature=youtu.be&t=51
Who's hype for NotDawnveil? Will give me something to do for the next 2 weeks while I wait for Superior Gollux stuff to drop and Empress to give me my last few dream stones.
Previous Thread: >>148135676
A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.
>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/
>/simg/ TeamSpeak:
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997
>Experimental website
http://nogf.moe/simg/
>/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral
>BMS download links
http://pastebin.com/2CDSgvZq
>Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in
>Boat- and subfag pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE
>Repository of various aviation related material:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web
>OP pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/yXeNzrpg
>Example of welcome sims
Falcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro truck sim, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X
>Example of non-welcome games:
Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____
1st for Mikoyan
>In the coming weeks, I think many of you will understand why 2.5 has been taking longer than expected. It will be worth it.
Should we do a private OP tomorrow?
Any ideas?
>Download the basic game here. Current version is Dwarf Fortress 0.43.05
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/
>Official forums:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php
>Find a bug? Don't tell us! Tell Toady! Complaining in the thread will accomplish nothing.
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt
>Have a question? Check the wiki first:
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Main_Page
>Fireden archived threads:
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/subject/Dwarf%20Fortress/
>Dwarf Therapist (Out of Date):
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=122968.0
>DFHack (Out of Date):
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=139553.0
>Starter Pack (Out of Date):
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=126076.0
>More DF stuff:
http://pastebin.com/AnsHjQ40
>Dwarf Fortress General IRC chat:
http://en.irc2go.com/webchat/?net=freenode&room=dwarffortress
(to connect yourself: https://webchat.freenode.net #dwarffortress)
>A bunch of guides to various parts of fort-based living:
http://imgur.com/a/nGyRF#0
>Video tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBrdUj1adIBD-vgUodaaxebcdqQ4oEWtg
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD1A3FE72C0DCAC66 (Dated, but good)
>Text tutorials:
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/DF2014:Tutorials
http://members.iinet.net.au/~morty/Getting_Started_with_Dwarf_Fortress.pdf
>This pasta:
http://pastebin.com/iAduXzjn
Strike the earth!
Old Thread
>>148067860
>First for not actually getting the first post in because I spent too long trying to think of a funny first post.
>>148407868
You don't deserve the first post, having such mediocre creativity. I'd put 5 points into mining on you and move to the next dwarf.
>>148408010
I'm sorry, please don't tell the Commisa-*BLAM*
>1:1 mouse/joystick
edition
>Can the game be considered a full release?
No, for all intents and purposes, KSP should be considered still in early access state. The game is nowhere near being able to stand on its own legs both from a gameplay perspective (career mode is definitely not ready and balanced) and a stability perspective. There are still major bugs and memory leaks that shouldn't exist on a finished game.
>Are there big issues with the game?
Bugs and instability are still real and frequent problems, as with every product still in beta. Ask in thread for details.
>What are the devs doing?
The most recent update (1.1) was supposedly going to bring a complete overhaul of the GUI, be 64bit friendly, have a refined physics/heating/aero model and generally perform better. While achieving none of these goals, the game is now more unstable than ever, with many users being unable to use the game at all. An external team with heavily questionable experience (Flying Tiger Entertainment) is being tasked with porting the game to PS4, XboxOne and Wii U, with a release deadline that seems to keep slipping.
>Should I buy the game?
KSP is very enjoyable at first, then it usually needs to be modded to retain some sort of longevity, but doing so may dramatically increase the instability of the game. You will be very familiar with the word "Oops!". The Developers, Squad, have shown many times that they can't handle the project and are trying to squeeze all the money they can with the least amount of effort and with controversial PR tactics. The general consensus at /kspg/ is that you should torrent the game, not because the game itself is unplayable, but because most of us agree that Squad does not deserve your money.
Previous thread: >>147874505
>Trailer:
youtube.com/watch?v=qSyjKmiqoKk [Embed]
>Dev Stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhVA84YNO14 [Embed]
>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/11ESnTdE
>Game site
http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/
http://dontdothisto.me/Games/iamabadperson/
>KSP mods
https://www.dropbox.com/s/atzhizfw7pxjdoa/RLA_ProbeParts.zip?dl=0 (RLA probe parts, /kspg/ exclusive)
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/50701-c (forum mod list)
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/forum/4-add-ons/ (mod subforums)
http://spacedock.info/ (community mod repository)
>Flags
http://imgur.com/a/lIHNS#0
>Party-approved rendezvous and docking tutorials
http://imgur.com/a/S3Qxf
http://i.imgur.com/PBuWyVx.jpg
>Some useful calculators
http://ksp.olex.biz/ (phase angle calculator, for planning trips to other planets)
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/87463-1 (deltaV map)
>Official forum
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/
>Hotkeys for operating your craft that are never mentioned anywhere else.
http://pastebin.com/vLmE1QbY
http://i.imgur.com/dJQEXBX.png
>Official /kspg/ fan fiction
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10607988/1/Structural-Failure
http://pastebin.com/HK7Qd6if
>List of IRL launches.
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html
>View from the ISS:
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/HDEV/
>Race Into Space
http://www.raceintospace.org
>Original BARIS for DOSBox scaling and filters and shit
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/183/Buzz+Aldrins+Race+into+Space.html
BARIS, Orbiter, Space Engine, OpenTTD, Take On Mars, Project CARS, ULA posting, Aurora, and planes are also welcome ITT.
kspg.sytes.net
NOTE: "kerbal" anywhere in the OP as well as "kspg" in the subject cause the thread to autosage. Please use [REDACTED] in place of these terms when making a new thread.
Real thread.
second for why God
Elder Thread: >>148087701
>Official news
Dark Brotherhood DLC is out!
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/dlc/darkbrotherhood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrIdDh7_TBw
One Tamriel announced (Q4 2016):
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/06/12/matt-firors-message-from-be3
First DLC dungeon pack coming soon™:
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2016/06/28/update-11-featuring-shadows-of-the-hist-launch-details
>Latest patch notes
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/patch-notes
>Sales and deals
http://www.dlgamer.us/download-the_elder_scrolls_online-pc_games-p-19435.html (authorized reseller)
http://www.kinguin.net/es/catalogsearch/result/index/?q=elder+scrolls+online (some anons have been using it without issues so far)
>Beginner's Guide by Alcast
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWqnQ2EfnFBgjvfzMURBzYTSTxMrf480u
>Online lore portal and map
http://www.imperial-library.info/
http://uesp.net/wiki/Online:Online
http://esomap.uesp.net/
>UI addons for PC
http://esoui.com/addons.php
>Assorted links
http://teso-rp.com/
http://esoacademy.com/
http://www.the-elder-scrolls-by-mysticals.com/
http://eso-fashion.com/
>/tesog/ Guilds
[PC NA] message (not whisper) @clv or @the_kyrox for invite
[PC EU] message (not whisper) @the_kyrox for invite
[PS4 NA and EU] message PSN: kibukj for invite
>We have a Discord open for every platform:
https://discord.gg/0zy535yopcQNGH6I
>Platform poll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10281492
>Can I play X class doing Y role with an Z race?
Yes
First for Tharn
new thread smell
xth for /v/ culture
Why do /v/ and ES "fans" shit on this game so much?
In early game and loving it more than the past mmos I've tried recently. It doesn't feel generic and paper-thin.
Lore edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8g_qxJvT7g
>What's new?
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20164442/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-july-12-2016-7-12-2016
Gul'dan, Auriel and a bunch of new skins:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU2WGor6p_0 [Embed]
>Where do I find you Sonya-loving faggots?
/join /vg/
>Do you have a discord?
https://discord.gg/0u3cyKnzMnnU2wjN
>What hero should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see what types you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into Ranked. It's not worth it.
>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator
All of the hero voice lines: http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm
Old Thread: >>148161949
Where the FUCK is Maiev????
https://www.strawpoll.me/10705972
Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/
https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker
They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
>News
- Update 1.1.6 now available for download!
- 1.1.6 Balance Patch Notes:http://smashboards.com/threads/436806/
- 1.1.5 Balance Patch Notes:http://smashboards.com/threads/433162/
>Resources and Guides
http://pastebin.com/TD8zsDJ1
Previous thread: >>147975841
>dead already
>>148318241
/ssbg/ has an OFFICIAL discord now made by Chronos:
https://discordapp.com/invite/0kMyiyd1r38A7kIF
It's open for everyone and has no moderation - If you can't get along with others use the blocking function.
This is the first decent thread in a while without useless links so let's not waste it and get right into talking about Smash AI. Not sure how it works in PM, but AI in Brawl works the best out of all the games. Don't know why they were so lazy with Sm4sh and made the CPUs only read inputs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFUVdXuIcU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4HvhIPOz4I
Zenyatta on a unicycle edition
>Official Stuff
http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/community/
>Competitive Info
http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://www.over.gg/
>The Oversheet (Damage values and other numbers)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgTenq3s-YesFgb-CPI6yIPpp4K9xot7LhTBo3Tm0Pk/edit#gid=1751764739/
>Wiki
http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_Wiki
>Stats and Leaderboards (Unofficial)
https://masteroverwatch.com
https://www.overbuff.com/
>Official Comics
https://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us
Previous thread >>148285292
hana song
You call this a general?
Thoughts on meta changes / new stuff
>Ana
She's pretty good, she heals a lot and puts out pretty good utility and damage, just that it's unclear just how much she's actually helping her team instead of someone else in her place. She definitely isn't shit or trash tier but she might not be that great.
>Zenyatta
Probably OP. He arguably outclasses soldier, and ana. Crazy good DPS, good heals, good utility, and he doesnt die instantly now. They need to take something away I think.
>DVa
really good spot now I think. She still has that horrible critical hit box and her guns are crap past 12 cenimeters, but she can perform her harassment and aggressive ulting role better.
Mrglglglglglgl
>Deck lists, news etc:
http://tempostorm.com
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.hearthstonetopdeck.com/
https://manacrystals.com/
>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/
>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com
>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker. net/
Now that the dust has settled...
Is Yogg-Saron a good card?
enjoy never legend you cum guzzling faggot
you fucking embarassment
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NOBUNDO
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RETCON MURLOC
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
DOESN'T USE A GORLOC
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