I'm about to start this. Anything I need to know?

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Don't try going for 100% off the bat. That's only for later playthroughs.

Finish quests in the guild as soon as possible.

White Gehenna > everything

If you're going to use S-break, try to use it when you have been granted a critical or str up.

It's unlike other RPGs where you are supposed to save the universe right off the bat. You're just two teens on bracer training, try not to drop the game on the first chapter.
And yes, things do escalate.

>>315623901

Joshua is the killer

>>315624974
wtf is White Gehenna again?

Anyone know where I could get the OST for SC?

>>315623901
Earth Wall and White Gehenna

>>315623901
Very slow burner.
Fantastic game but if you don't like slow paced games it might not be for you.

>>315625154
That doesn't make any sense.

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>>315625365
It's the "but most of all, fuck you" spell.

>>315625635
Is Estelle a slut

>>315623901

Take it slow and don't procrastinate on your bracer guild quests.

It's a magnificent game if you take in all the world and character building instead of sprinting through.

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>>315625678
Well, no.

>>315625678
does NBR count as incest?

>>315625452
Here is the youtube playlist

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzFTGYa_evXgy_taoUv9a_8VD2yR6WihK

I couldn't find any links sorry senpai

BEST SONGS

FC: SOPHISTICATED FIGHT
SC: FATEFUL ENCOUNTER

IF YOU ARGUE THIS YOU ARE WRONG

>>315625984
I can agree with SC but for FC I'd have to say Ancient Makes

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>>315625984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKuqzR-iMas

Talk to everyone

>>315626170
Holy shit I'm listening to this right now

Are you my soul mate?

>>315625984

m8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ-Aoj41CIM

also who took down all the FC OST playlists?

>>315623901
I hope more Kiseki gets localized ;-;

>>315626462
If SC and Coldsteel the Trailhog do well enough there's a chance we may get 3rd in Winter 2016.

There's basically no chance for Zero or Ao since there was no PC port and the company who distributed those games are famous for hating the West.

If you like NPC banter, talk to everyone at every main story progressing part, they talk new stuff everytime and mots of then have a little arc story of their own through dialogue.

>>315625984
>Not enforcers for SC

pls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z07WdBYBEe0

>>315625908
That's what I've been listening for the past week, but thanks anyway.

I was thinking of putting the OST on my usb-stick and listen to it while driving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mk0yil3Y9s

>>315626575
Yeah I plan on buying Sen but it sucks we won't get the other games.

>>315623901
Game has an incredibly slow start but don't try to rush things, talk with npc as they have a shitton of unique and changing commentaries past pretty much every story event, dialogues and world building are one of the strongest points of franchise.

>>315623901
You should really use a guide, you're not likely to play the game twice in a row and the missables are real.

Other than that get area of effect spells because they make trash encounters pretty easy.

>>315626575
>tfw zero and ao have the best fucking setting of all of them
>tfw english release never

Pretty sure Silver Will is objectively the best.

>>315627109
Maybe Xseed can work some magic

Oh who am I kidding

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>game hypes up enforcers like they are hot shit
>they are weaker that penguin god

>>315627228
>game hypes up Joshua
>barely stronger than Estelle

yep, alot of hyping up this game

Didn't the translator for this game attempt suicide lol

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>>315627341
Nigger what?
Joshua is the strongest DPS character in SC while Estelle barely makes it to mid-tier.

>>315627341

He's pretty considerably better in battle. Estelle is literally worse at everything.

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Playing through SC at the moment, and i liked the all the NPC talk, like the guy that had fishing for a Hobby and didn't pay attention to the wife, so she decided to be better than him at fishing and succeded easily.

Does the story of that family on Bose about how the husband suggested they make a small shop in the city, but went back to their farm house to work there leaving the child and mother working in the city by thenselves progress?
Or the little kid who got a reality check every time he said something about wanting to be a great merchant and the little girl shattered it, only at the end to imply she would be dating him if he put effort in being successful?

>>315627004
>tfw no completed SC guide

>>315627352
Office cubicle workers have weak mind, more news at 11.

>>315627449
Is there a tier list for SC?

>>315627506
SC alone has more little details like this than multiple other JRPG titles combined.
Even some series, maybe.

Don't bother exploring too much.
Especially in towns.

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>trails in the sky characters
>tomboyish girl with a generic design as protagonist but with some unique qualities such as her headstrong personality combined with her girlish qualities and weapon of use
>boy with a mysterious past who is pretty much the staple generic main character jrpg protagonist but with some interesting things to go with his character such as his competence, personality, relationship with estelle and not being edgy at all despite appearances
>total milf slut that acts as a mentor to the two main characters who's familiarity with them at a personal level makes for some funny moments with them, and a design that is properly themed with tarot cards
>a bard prettyboy woth unique dialogue that is both controversial and funny at the same time who utilizes his posh and outlandish personality to hide the fact that he's actually an erebonian agent and has great interactions with literally any character making any scene with him enjoyable to see
>some stupid high school student who's only redeeming quality is that she's the kek princess
>hot headed man with a burly design who's ranked right up there with the milf. Starts out with a really jerkish condescending attitude but has a lot of personal growth and eventually respects the protagonists
>cute loli thats good with mechanical things who grows to be like a little sister to the protagonists. Suprisingly enough the game makes sense out of the fact that she should not be going to dangerous missions without not letting you use her
>super manly tall asian dude who is a total bro and I don't know much about yet excet that he's one of the strongest bracers in the continent

>sen no kiseki characters
>everyone is in high school
>5 generic fuccboi design of various tropes
>5 generic waifu designs of various tropes

I know I shouldn't judge the characters YET but what exactly happened to the mindset in terms of DESIGN? Why is everyone so samey now? Even in zero and ao things are kind of like that as well.

>>315627607
Mine is:
Top tier:
>Joshua (simply the most potent DPS character in the game, he doesn't need turn delay crafts to be top tier, best used as a combination of magic and physical DPS, with gladiator headband he can jump from zero to 100 CP in seconds just by unleashing a few aoe spells then killing all survivors with his GOAT s-crafts)
>Kevin (literally the best line of support crafts in the game plus good mage, CP battery for rest of the party, healer and panic button all at once)

Hight tier:
>Zane (mediocre in the beginning but when you hit higher levels and he learns +60% attack/def buff craft he becomes incredibly tough and damaging, far surpassing even Agate and gladiator accessories make CP accumulation easy as fuck)
>Agate (broken in the beginning thanks to wild rage but gradually loses his advantage)
>Olivier (best dedicated mage but his crafts suck ass)
>Schera (overall crap character but AT Advance move allows her to jump from low tier to high tier)

Mid tier:
>Estelle (really mediocre character because she ain't a specialist, her strongest ability is to rally physical characters with her aoe STR buff and then go with Chain 3 on enemy asses, Estelle/Joshua combo is very potent as she can inspire and support him while he goes cuhrayzee, she can also serve as a great healer)

Low tier:
>Kekloe (good mage but brittle as fuck and with 3 water locked slots and 1 useful crafts that won't work on any powerful opponent)
>Tita (ranged physical attacker who is crap all around, her only possible usage is in farming sepith on sepith+ turns with her s-craft)

Was Kloe downgraded in SC? I swear she was a lot more useful in FC. I think he Def and Str down craft was a lot stronger too.

She's literally the bottomest of the bottom tiers in SC.

>>315628687
She did, i got surprised too once i got her in chap. 1. Her art damage was higher, decent enough HP, attack was pretty much the same as Estelle's, but now it's like all that got worse. She still has 3 water slots, so yeah, she's like botton of the barrel now.

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>chapter 8 of SC is pretty much a mini-FC with tons of dialogues and even some cool events

>>315626575
>"There's basically no chance for Zero or Ao since there was no PC port"
>there were PC ports
>XSEED registered shit related to "Trails to Zero" and "Trails to Azure"

>>315628845
Source

>>315627607
Pretty much something like this

>Locked to your party tier
Estelle, Joshua

>Top tier
Joshua, Kevin, Olivier

>High Tier
Agate, Zane

>mid Tier
Estelle, Scherazard

>low tier
Kloe, Tita

>I don't know where to put these yet tier
Mueller, Josette, Julia

Kevin is pretry much the best support character thanks to his S-break and Party CP restore craft.

Olivier is the best mage and buffer.

Agate is good for CP spam attacks.

Zane is not only the best tank but the best big fucking hits.

Joshua is fast and really good at dealing both physical damage and magic damage and is locked into an element that is non-elemental allowing him to hit just about anything. His AT delay also makes him really useful at manipulating turn order.

Schera is really average in just about everything but has a useful AT up craft to manipulate turns.

Estelle is an all rounder, not really good at anything but not bad at anything either.

Tita is good for debuffing thanks to her range on regular attacks and crafts.

Kloe is pretty much a pure healer with a really good debuff and a useful healing S-break but can't do much more other than that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqAzKJIr5aQ

>>315628883
>http://whois.domaintools.com/trailstozero.com
>http://whois.domaintools.com/trailstoazure.com
They do this for every game they localise, so yeah. Happening.

>>315629002
I seriously don't understand their reasoning for making Kloe so useless.

How do you even play this game on higher difficulties? I'm playing normal, doing all sidequests, farm and some bosses are pain in ass. Not impossible but still a pain. I can't imagine playing this game on nightmare.

Does Time still have the best quartz and spells in SC like it did in FC (White Gehenna, Clock Up, Action #, Cast #, etc)?

>>315629231
I was scared we were going to get maybe third and then nothing but Sen

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>>315629275
Yes.
It gets even fucking better.

was this shit made in RPG maker

>>315629237
She wasn't that great in FC either, Taking Olivier was better simply because if Saint and better attacking spells, but mostly because of saint.

In FC she was more useful because of her debuff being -50% but even then, thats literaly all she could do other han heal. Her range was extremely short and she was still locked to three water slots.

Speaking of FC, Agate was really shit there other than for farming poms. Wild Rage only gave 50 CP so it was much better to spend on reular crafts than build up for s-break.

So, a question about importing the 100% file into SC.

All you get for getting all the Bracer Points is a rare drop up quartz. Monster drops in FC are pretty much pointless, is it the same in SC? Are monster drops pretty much just ingredients and things not to care about?

Am I going to give the slightest fuck about not having that quartz because of the one bracer point I missed? (stipid smoke canister on floor 1.)

How long is the third trails in the sky game? I heard dialogue wise it's probably shorter than FC or around the same, and the story is self contained but branchs off to Ao/zero and develops characters and closes up certain things that weren't asnwered.

>>315629562
Monster drops in SC include fishing bait which can be used for fishing up some good stuff like 100 sepith of some kind or accessory.

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>really want to use Silver Thorn and Lost Mobius
>they require pants on head retarded quartz combinations that will fill up most slots even on Olivier

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So i just finished chapter 1's boss, and i'm supposed to move to Reiss, but i noticed my monster book has like 2 normal mob units not shown and like 5-6 boss ones that are still on ???.

I'm pretty sure i fought everything, including that semi rare panda enemy near Saphire tower. Will i get to come back to finish the enemy unit list for Ruan or did i fuck up?

>>315628845
They said themselves it's not guaranteed.

>>315629783
You get to go back in NG+ It doesn't matter anyway because the first couple of entries can't be filled out on a fresh file

>>315629562
There's a sidequest in Chapter 1 that requires you to get certain amount of specific monster drops, it could help there. I had no problem without it though.

>>315630114
So i get new enemies in NG+?

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>about to fight Renne
>Josh goes full "oh she's so super strong speshul snowflake" as usual
>literally only at least somehow challenging part of the battle is the fact that she ambushes you with like 8 status effect-inflicting robots and tries to use her s-craft
>the rest of the battle is like fighting against a puppy who can barely hit you for any serious damage
>mfw just spammed cookies at her till she's defeated

>>315630229
No, you either missed quests/enemies entirely or didn't have the Information quartz equipped.

>>315629378
Abyss Fall/Zodiac have the best Arts animations.

>>315630334
Fuck Petrify

>>315629767
silver thorn is useless.

>>315630368
I did every single quest and fought all enemies i found on the map all the way to the tower to the start of the border going to Bose, i'm pretty sure i didn't miss anything, but the monster book entry for "Ruan" still shows some ??? so since the book seems to split into regions now, i'm guessing it's for later enemies if i happen to come back.

I always got info quartz equiped so far.

>>315630824
You don't revisit any region in FC. Also you should probably be using a walkthrough.

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>yfw the chapter 6 reunion scene

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>>315631134
Oh, you tought i was talking about FC? I was talking SC man, not OP here.

>>315628401
More like
>A braindamaged tomboy
>A total edgelord
>A slut that only wants to fuck and get drunk
>A manslut same as above
>A princess nobody gives a shit about
>A bland as fuck hardened warrior kind of character
>Boring loli with a gun
>Literally who

Now is fixed

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>>315631283
This was everything i ever wanted from SC and man, it was great.

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>>315631283

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>decided to revisit Towers in chapter 8
>mfw those things on top

>>315631332
Use
A
Walkthrough

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>>315631283
Just to think that Joshua could really fuck up the plans of organization if it wasn't for Estelle rushing into their base and getting caught.

>>315631556
Nice accessories, I kinda regret not going to all of them but I couldn't be bothered.

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His fight was disappointing as fuck

>>315632893
I simply let Zane solo this faggot and he did it really fast.

>near the end of ch5
>already have 45 hours
>keeping pretty much the same pace as I did with FC visiting areas before and after the main quest and talking to everyone at least once
>doing all the side quests before main story
>FC took me 50 hours at that pace

Well they weren't lying about 80 hours.

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What's the fucking point of this thing?
Like who the fuck will take slightly faster casts over such a debuff?

>>315633608
Oh nigga, you're in for a long amount of fun ahead.
Latest chapters are by far the longest ones.

is there more Olivier coverage in third?

I just finished Sc and really like the character

>>315633651
faster casting was probably the most useful/OP benefit in the first game, wouldn't this be worth it if going full mage?

>>315634183
>ATS -14%
Maybe if you go full SUPPORT mage.

>>315634183
It gives substantial debuff to magic damage given the damage formula kiseki games are using. I can see it working on healer/buffer though as their spells don't scale with magic attack power, probably will put it on Estelle for instant Earth Wall casts.

>>315634269
forgot that ATS was arts damage

>>315627607
If you're playing on Normal than tiers don't matter too much since it isn't a very hard game, but:

>Estelle
She's a jack-of-all-trades, which is a bit unfortunate since in this game specialization is better than all-rounding. She doesn't have any locks though and you can make her a great support character since you're expected to dump all the utility quartz on her. She can also take a hit and Morale is pretty useful.

>Joshua
Sanic speed and good on both physical offense and arts. His crafts and S-Crafts are god-tier and he has Time locks on his orbment which is great because Time is non-elemental and thus can't be resisted, make sure to spam White Gehenna. Nothing personnel.

>Agate
Slow as fuck but hits super hard. Wild Rage and having someone who can use healing crafts/Earth Guard on him breaks a lot of the game in two because he can spam S-Crafts with impunity, but this becomes less effective later on. Shit at magic but who cares.

>Olivier
Best pure mage in the game thanks to having a single line for his orbment with the low price of one Mirage lock. He can also attack from super far and early on Happy Trigger acts as an instant La Tear. Most of his crafts and S-crafts are pretty shitty though.

>Kloe
Better on paper than in practice, she's your dedicated healer and has the EP pool to spam heals, but three Water locks hurts her bad and having more magic power doesn't actually make your heals stronger. Her first S-craft is a useful panic button (not as good as Kevin's though) but her offensive S-craft runs off of her awful STR for some reason so it suck ass.

>Schera
Okay mage with a Wind lock, she isn't as strong as Olivier but she can make your characters go fast which is always useful. A slut.

>Tita
Good at clearing trash mobs quickly and that's pretty much it, she has about as much HP as you'd expect a cute non-psycho loli to have.

>>315623901
are full mage builds viable?

im about to play it for the first time

So fishing only depends on the spot and the bait and not on rod itself right? Different rods just enables you to use different bait? So when you get aqua master you don't have to worry about using different ones right?

>>315635173
One of two MCs can be both top tier physical and magical attacker, so of course.
Magic is stronger than physical damage in FC and still dominates SC even though physical crafts will get MAJOR buff as well.

>>315635173
Each character has their own niche.

Estelle can be whatever, she's not great at anything but not bad at anything either.

Joshua is fast and can be both a physical attacker and a mage but is frail as fuck.

Schera and Olivier are pretty good mages, Olivier's mage capabilities get buffed quite a bit in SC.

Agate and Zane are awful mages due to having tons of lines but great physical attackers.

I forget Tita's orbment but she's also meant to be a physical attacker/trash mob clearer.

Kloe seems like a great mage on paper but her 3 Water locks hurt more than help since healing spells don't scale with ATS and she's therefore limited to healing, debuffing and water spells.

>>315635850
>>315635624
i probably should have mentioned i want to play it on pc, SC is the one on steam right?

>>315636040
Both FC and SC are on Steam, SC came out only a week or so ago.

Also SC is a direct sequel to FC, if you try playing SC first then you're going to be incredibly confused.

>>315624974
When does it escalate? Playing it right now and I'm struggling to stay interested.

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I can't bring myself to play FC on the PC and my PSP is broken. I heard the PC version is superior anyway. Maybe one of these days I'll stop being a bitch and play a handheld game on my PC (yes, I know it was originally a PC game).

Also, why is Chris best girl of the Gagharv trilogy?

>>315636249
The end.

It's a 50-hour prologue to the second game since they were originally meant to be one game.

>>315629231
They said they registered that just in case. Not guaranteed, but at least they're thinking on it.

>>315636250
Because she has a ponytail and a ribbon.

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>>315636367
I have to go through that many hours for it to get good? I'm 7 hours in and pretty bored already.

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>Joshua does Death Scream
>+80 CP thanks to gladiator headband
>follow it up with Black Fang
>even Black Fang gives him like 30 more CP
>follow it up with dual strike

Is it possible to play SC on PSP, or am I stuck getting a Vita if I wanna play it on the go?

>>315636936
Things get pretty hype as the game goes on.

In chapter 1 and on you start getting ivolved with more major cases with 3 and 4 having the biggest.

That being said, the game itself is more of a journey of personal growth for Estelle and Joshua, while SC gets in touch with the actual drama behind the story.

Think of FC/SC together as one really big fucking game.

>>315638836
Its possible to get it on psp.

Its on the psn store just go check it.

So is there a consensus? Agate or Zane? I think they both have a lot of merit honestly, but I'm starting to lead toward Zane.

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>>315638836
Yes of course, it's a PSP game after all. It's just that most people have gone to the Vita, which also plays PSP games.

>>315640460
Neither.

Pick Kloe and Olivier instead.

Literally last time I used Agate in SC his physical attacks were doing jack shit against the enemy despite being leveled up and having his best (at the time) equipment. I never put his useless ass in my party again.

>>315640575
I really don't feel like Kloe is worth using. Kevin basically outclasses her in every way.

Olivier is pretty damn good, though.

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>>315640575
>Kloe

>>315640675
when you have joshua you might as well take olivier/schera & kevin but it doesn't really matter in the end.

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>>315640575
>kloe

>>315640575
I like Kloe as much as the next guy but they really fucked her over in SC.

>>315640460
Earlygame: Agate > Zane
Chapter 7-9: Zane >>> Agate

>>315636936

Chapter 1 is ok
Chapter 2 is great
Chapter 3 is really good
Chapter 4 is good, but really bait and switch for SC

SC is GotY

>>315642095
I thought chapter 2 of FC was the worst chapter desu

>>315642249
Not him but is definitely my favorite city in Liberl.

>>315640530
Why do I see that posted so often? Because its the only good image of her?

Man she's so underdeveloped, her having had a crush on Joshua is the most interesting thing about her

>>315642320
>>315642249

Ruan is*

>>315640460
Pretty much Zane since Agate will fall behind in usefulness in later chapters.

Zane has basically better stats than Agate in all fronts but only one multi-hit craft. Once you get gladiator accessories Agate's one advantage becomes more of a hindrance too.

>>315640575
Kloe is worthless, if you wanna go full mage go Olivier/Kevin.

I would recommend against this though, because its much better to have balance.

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>>315642407
Because I really like that picture.

I'd rather post the Estelle one too, but mods are anal about it, so I can't.

>>315642848
On normal it doesn't really matter.

>>315642909
What Estelle one?

>>315642909
Anal, you say?

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>>315643091
>>315643216
I'm not posting it.

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>playing FC
>pick Zane/Olivier for end party
>get reverse harem achievement

I wasn't expecting this.

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>>315642909
>>315643338
So its always you huh?

>>315643403
You also get an achievement if you pick 2 of the girls too.

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>>315643982
Who else?

When do battles get fun?

>>315644832
Late chapter 1

>>315644832
Play on hardmode

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>those two motherfucking divine penguins in kalida tunnel in ch.8
at least reward is noice

>>315627631
>>315627506
Pretty much all npcs dialogue changes after some events happens, this was the case even for many short 'cutscenes'.

>>315628401
>"Erebonian Agent"

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3/4th of this game is missable

>>315623901
Abuse instakill stuff like White Gehenna and the supers.
Also if you want to 100% the most annoying easy to mss thing is the messages on the empty chests so double check them from the beginning.

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>>315646943
>when you missed one BP in FC
>SC is worse

>>315644832
Play on hard otherwise you can sleepwalk through the game later on.

>>315647276
>later on

you mean the start.

It's overhyped trash that gets praised because in the weebworld, there is always negative amounts of worldbuilding, whereas this one goes 1% tolkien-tier, therefore, it is seen as weebshites as the deepest work of art ever conceived.

It's an okay game.

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Awww.

>>315623901
The most important thing is to make multile saves per chapter because the timing restrictions on quests can be easily lost.

>>315647189
>That Webm

Haha golden

>>315647189
is the OVA good?

How much of SC does it cover?

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>>315647456
My time to shine baby

Finally a post where I get to reply with pic related.

>tfw missed one of 163 chest phrases and I have no idea where it is
fuck this game desu

>>315626575
>the company who distributed those games are famous for hating the West

Isn't Japan considered a part of the "West". I mean, you've done a good job of subjugating them after Hiroshima/Nagasaki.

>>315648323
>163
FC has 522

Why is the game called trails in the sky if the airships are a subplot at best and you never get to control one anyway

>>315648696
*SC

>>315648696
brb sudoku

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>>315647456

>>315648710
Because "Trails in the Sky" doesn't refer to airships, you simpleton.

>>315642249
>Best town in Liberl next to Zeiss
>nice mystery
>comfy school section where you see Joshua trap up

Ch 2 was where I started liking FC

>>315648710
Maybe you should finish SC first before someone spoils it for you.

Where the fuck is the girl in a villa?

>>315647984
Up to chapter 6, but they took so much liberties with how the scenes played out. Watch it just to see characters getting animated and Estelle kicked in the womb by Walter

>>315648967
>Because "Trails in the Sky" doesn't refer to airships, you simpleton.

It doesn't?

I've finished FC twice but this is the first time I've heard this.

>>315650278
>After much wrangling on the implied/philosophical meaning of the game title (as Sora no Kiseki has quite a number of ways of being translated) we finally settled on a throw down between "Road to the Sky" or "Trails in the Sky." Road to the Sky had a nice upward trajectory ring to it, while Trails in the Sky conveyed a reoccurring theme within the game of the ever-crisscrossing lives of people and how they affect one another. In the end it was the importance of the journey of discovery/growth through interacting with people that won out.

http://www.rpgamer.com/games/loh/loh6fc/loh6fcint.html

Pretty sure Estelle outright says something like this in SC regarding the trail that Joshua's walked when she's talking to Loewe about his past while she's captured.

>>315651032
Well now I know.

>>315651032
>>>315540983
Does that mean they record Kevin, Ries, and Renne's line for 3rd already?

>>315652050
oops meant to quote
>Ken: We got into the project with the full intention of publishing the entire trilogy, and we've even recorded the English voices for all three games together already.

>>315628845
One of those had a PC port so it's entirely possible, the other did not unless you count the chinese port which you are stupid for thinking they'll be able to use

>>315652654
the Chinese disregarded US copyright for all their knock-off products, why can't we do the same for their port?

>>315623901
Renee is the worst girl

>>315652654
So basically there are only two options:

>Char-ani stops being a giant bitch about licensing and lets xseed handle the EVO versions

or

>Falcom does the JP build of Ao PC that should've happened years ago


Which is more likely?

>>315653101
Literally neither of them are going to happen. XSEED has a better chance of getting Falcom to just outsource a PC port of Ao to some other company so they can localize that.

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>>315650208

>>315652940
Because Zero and Ao aren't ports, they're the PSP version in an emulator. Falcom aren't going to touch them, they even canceled Ao. And I guarantee nobody on XSeed staff knows how to inject text into PSP isos without external help. Even if they did, they'd probably get sued by Sony for selling a PSP emulator.

>>315654862
Man maybe I should watch the animation? It seems pretty funny

>>315654862
This never gets old.

>>315655547
I enjoyed watching it, but if you're the type who will get pissed about the fact that they butchered the story then you should think twice.

My main gripes with it are that they made Estelle look like too much of a bumbling idiot (Sure, she's pretty goofy in the game, but she's still a competent bracer by SC) and Olivier isn't serious enough. Even though he's kind of a weirdo, he still does have a serious side, and they don't show that at all.

Anyway, like I said, I still enjoyed it despite the flaws. I wish they had covered the whole story, though.

Wow after 45 hours I've finally found another secret side quest in ch6. Are they really well hidden or there just isn't many of them.

How is MC of Zero/Ao games compared to Estelle combat-wise? Just as bad or better?
Looked at his crafts and they look kinda over the top for setting.

>>315656909
Which one?

>>315658024
>Estelle
>Bad in combat
This meme needs to die.

So, according to steamspy, SC actually *lost* over 200 owners yesterday. I don't see how people can take steamspy numbers so seriously. At this point everything I've seen points to it being an unreliable measurement of a game's sales.

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>>315658024
Excellent physicial attacker who can be built into evasion tank with over 100 AGI in Ao. Estelle was the only jack of all trades mc of the series. Kevin fantastic support/caster. Lloyd and Rean are great at physical damage

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Oliver is slowly but surely corrupting the young maidens, the lewd jokes seem to be a little more common in SC than in FC. Oliver also pretty much upgraded his antics. Him blowing into the casino worker's ear was kinda unexpected.

>>315658337

You do understand the numbers provided come with a big +/- sign? And as their data gets more accurate it's possible for displayed owners to be reduced. They've never claimed to be perfectly accurate and especially new releases take time.

>>315658706
Which is exactly my point. Idiots claiming "SC bombed waahh" need to stop taking steamspy so damn seriously.

>>315658165
Her only good ability is an aoe STR buff and ability to equip any quartz. She's worse than most of the characters and at best suited for support, currently i just gave her cast 3 quartz which lowers her attack and put her behind other characters so she could spam earth walls and ex clock ups.
>>315658352
That sounds awesome, i like physical attackers in kiseki games.

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>>315658142
Before you go to the kingfisher Inn if you go to Ravennue Mine. Really easy quest and you get a random cutscene with Crimson Jaegers in it coming to pick the wrecks

>>315658165
She does noticeably less damage with both crafts and magic than the specialized characters.

Morale is nice though.

>>315658368
The moments he suddenly goes serious are kinda spooky. Like he dicks around for 95% of time just to save the day in the end.

>>315658337
>what are refunds?

>>315659007
Nigga you are way off base, sorry. I've always had Estelle as one of my main offensive characters and I did just fine.

>>315659117
I was surprised when the cutscene for that happened

>>315659270
>Over 200 people gave back SC in one day
>NOT A SINGLE SALE OF SC IN ONE DAY.
You really believe this, don't you? Holy shit you are pants-on-head retarded.

>>315659301
Nobody said you can't make her offensive, she's just better left off as a supporter.

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>Lord Oliver

I wasn't expecting that, can Oliver actually play smooth and not just come off as a total weirdo, or is the girl just desperate?

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>>315659249
Not him but so far my Estelle has more ATS than my Oliver because of these shoes.there will probably come a time when I'll have to switch and Oliver's orb setup is what makes him much better anyway.

>>315659301
Her offensive crafts are GARBAGE aside from comet maybe. Cyclone does like 1/2 of the weapon damage without any extra effects, impede art almost never works, her one target only s-craft does less damage than Joshua's s-craft which attacks everyone on the screen.

You can make an attacker from her, but the thing is, she's going to suck dicks at it compared to actual top tiers.

>>315659435

You really don't understand basic fucking data? The number they have for owners is a prediction/estimate/good guess, if the number goes down it means the prediction was overestimated. It doesn't mean 200 people suddenly refunded the game or anything.

Consider steamspy a decent estimate, is a game selling thousands/tens of thousands/hundreds of thousands. Few hundred here or two doesn't matter.

>>315659841
>It's not OP
>Therefore, it's garbage.
Jesus christ, /v/ is retarded.

>>315659545
He is her ticket to leaving that quite village and move to a big city.

>>315659841
>impede art almost never works
u wat m8? I've never had a case where Impede didn't cancel an enemy charging art or craft if it hit.

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>>315659265
Thats why I love him so much
They could have taken the easy route and make him the goofball and butt of every joke but he's actually bro-tier and damn professional when he wants to

>>315660162
I'm pretty sure that by the end of SC she and Joshua can go anywhere they want and live there as they are rolling in money from all the guild contracts.

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Oliver a best

>>315660638
I'm not sure who is better, Olivier who is ready to fuck anything that moves or Phantom Thief and his fixation on one girl.

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Oh my fucking god, the size of chapter 8 if you decide to do all optional stuff is enormous.
It's not like i'm complaining as finally i can black fang anything.

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You know, i wasn't expecting the whole "phantom thief" deal to actually get a comeback in SC, and that he's be as eccentric as Oliver.

>Think he's just really good at trickery, spying and making people play along his games
>Suddenly makes everyone get stuck though their shadows

If mr.beauty is this dangerous, i'm afraid of what the other enforcers will be like since i doubt every single one of then likes to fuck around as much.

>>315661247
Olivier> Blblanc that sends you on shitty riddle filled fetch quests

>>315661910
Enforcers are Phantom Troupe-tier group of highly trained powerhouses.
But they reeealy love to fuck around.

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>>315661247
>That moment when you replay FC and notice that Phantom Thief was already tricking them
10/10 Falcom

>>315662389
wait when?

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>>315662005

I seriously hope the game will allow you to fight all Enforcers at once in the end.

>>315662503
There was a quest when you have to solve a couple of riddles from him.

>>315662768
And we even met him a few times while he is in disguise.

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>>315662681
As long as it's a multi stage battle with all the characters from the other series helping out in each group i'd be ok with it.

>>315648326
Don't be retarded.

>>315663027
To be honest Joshua is capable of soloing all Enforcers aside from Loewe in pure 1vs1.
Nigga is too shy to accept this though, he always talks shit about himself and his abilities.

>>315662681
>>315663027
Honestly, the enforcers themselves aren't even necessarily all that tough. It's the fact that they bring machines and monsters and trickery along with them. I think if it was a straight four-on-four battle then it would be doable.

>>315663436
Yeah, Renne's fight is only hard because of petrifying robots and Phantom Thief has very strong confuse-inducing mechs.

Where the fuck is the Tratt Plains monster in Ch.2?

>>315650278
"Sora no Kiseki" can either translate to "Trails in the Sky" or "Miracle in the Sky."

Allegedly, whenever the word "kiseki" appears in the theme song, it makes sense whether you translate it as "trail" or "miracle."

>>315664348
Before stone circle. I think.

>>315664621
Ackshually "miracle" and "trail" are only the same word insofar as they are homonyms, but spelled differently.
t. Japaneezu pro®.

Should I bench Agate for Joshua?

>>315624974
Why is there no Kloe in this picture

>>315666230
That's official art right? I'm wondering why myself now that you pointed it out.

>>315666225
Why not both?

>>315662681
It happens, but not in SC

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Where the hell is the godamn Shining pom in chapter 2 of SC? I've been looking for quite a while but not luck so far.

>>315669382
Try to look in the Carnelia Tower in a room on 3f full of small enemies in the center, from what i remember some of them have poms.

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Oh my fucking god there's two of them.

>>315662653
Nighttime Rolent was so comfy.

>>315669382
rabbit field enemies in Tratter Plains. Agate's Beat Down 2 kills them without any buffs.

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Pizza cake

>>315663901
you instakill them pretty quick with aoe.

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>equipping Tita with Septium Vein and using Cannon Impulse on a Sepith Up turn

>>315672378
The entire difficulty of her battle is to survive initial ambush. If Kevin casts 200% Grail Sphere right in the beginning, you already won.

>>315672480
It's a shame that septium per battle per category is capped on 70.

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>>315671502
the smuggest FeMC who ever lived

>Dicking around in Carnelia tower
>Holy shit look at all those shining poms
>Kill 5 of them
>Everyone levels up around 6 times, with the underlevelled Tita levelling up around 10 times.

What that shit?

>>315674280
I hate that Poms can overlevel you.

Is there a full list of top tier quartz you can find in ch.8 yet?
Found Cast 3 by accident in Ravennue Village.

>>315674916
lol anything 3 hardly qualifies as "top tier."

Top tier quartz are level 5 quartz.

>>315672789
Are the pictures on the right the PC re-release or SC?

>>315675636
I think 3 is the highest that Cast goes

>>315675636
There's only 3 cast gems, retard.

>>315672789
So let me ask you bro, why didn't you have any issues with the change of estelle portrait's in zero/ao?

Hypocrisy, much?

>>315676323
Probably too distracted by Joshua's lizard face in the Crossbell games to even notice Estelle was there

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>>315623901
The most important thing to know is that the best girl doesn't show up until the second game.

>>315676565
best girl also doesn't get raped until the third game

>>315676323
Probably because Katsumi actually draws Estelle well.

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>>315676565
And she's not playable until the 3rd

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This is awful.

>>315676565
>super special genius snowflake loli with grimdark past
yaaawn

>>315676773
she was raped when she was younger what are talking about.

>>315676879
This is a worksafe board you faggot, remove this sick filth.

>>315676803
I honestly thought it was ok, it didn't bother me either way.

Fags who keep talking shit about evo's portraits definitely hasn't played the game.

>>315676879
I hope SC evo gives this scene a better art really

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>>315676812
Kevin has some neat shit in 3rd.

>>315677020
Too bad the art in the Evo games is still shit.

They should have used Katsumi or literally anyone else who does the art for the modern Kiseki titles, they're all better than the hack who did FC evo.

>>315676879
>she will never rub cunnies with Anelace

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>>315677042
>silky smooth

>>315677117
You know how I know you haven't played the game?

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>>315677261
Wait, Kevin is that freaking strong?What is that skull symbol and the other one for Kevin's next turn to the right of the portrait?

>>315676323
Nice deflection bro. Zero/Ao portraits look better than Liberl Evo artist

>>315677486
Post-3rd Kevin is one of the strongest motherfuckers in the series.

>>315677486
Instakill bonus

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>>315677537
I disagree. Both arts was a matter of getting used to, and neither detracts the quality of the game, which is what shows that you haven't played it.

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>>315677486
He's crazy powerful in 3rd.

>>315677794
No, Katsumi is a far better artist than the evo hack and you're a fucking moron if you believe otherwise. Katsumi actually has a distinct style and knows how to give his art depth. The evo hack looks like he spent 10 minutes in Paint.

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>>315677486
You gotta see Kevin releasing his seal bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUFqkmB5SSA

>>315678027
>you're a fucking moron if you believe otherwise
Alright bro, if you're going to stoop this low let's just stop here.

Go play the game.

>>315677794
Cmon, dont resort to no true scottsman. I tolerate Estelle and Josh art in Crossbell but still think their faces in Liberl looks better.
I can tolerate FC Evo art like I tolerate no 2D art in sen as well, but that still means I prefer the older artstyle.

>>315678234
I have. Go attend art 101 or something, you shill.

The full body pictures in the pause menus and CGs in the regular Sora games are trash.

>>315678540
You obviously haven't played it, nor have the game, why are you so fucking mad?

>>315678726
>if you didn't like the shit art, you didn't play the game
You obviously didn't play the originals then.

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>>315679010
I played both actually, and still can't wrap my mind around how pissed you are over fucking portraits.

Jesus Christ.

>>315679307
>I played both
Then obviously you would like the art. Go play them.

>>315679787
Lets not go subjective on person's taste in artstyle now. Its just that
>you play this obviously you must like the art
Is fallacious

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>Decide to chase after a chicken in wolf port and spam action on her
>Get fresh eggs

Well that was unexpected

Also can you portrait faggots stop all this shitposting? It's embarrasing.

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>mfw they animate the reunion scene in SC
>mfw they make the voices in-sync with the OST so it perfectly gives the sense that they're paraphrasing "hoshi no arika" lyrics

Fucking hold me bros, I can't wait for december already

This franchise is so incredibly boring 10-20 min long battles that are all easy on top of a plot that takes forever to get somewhere. Its like divinity original sin but jrpg.

>>315680036
I hope you're not that guy.

>>315680302
I wonder if SC players read hoshi no arika lyrics in english before playing the game?

That part would be much more striking I think

>>315680508
>>315680302
Oh yeah, did anyone notice this playing SC in English in the reunion scene?

>>315680508
>>315680619
wait what, the song had lyrics?

>>315677261
>>315676812
Why is Josette wearing a hat that says capua on it? It looks retarded.

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>tfw I have exams in less than 1 week
>tfw really want to do SC but need to study

>>315681264
Yeah, the reunion scene in chapter 6 should feel like they're paraphrasing the song

Estelle almost literally sings the song in the reunion scene

Do you like reading? If not, dont play it.

>>315681398
It's her family name senpai

>>315681405
Study SC instead.

>>315681446
oh that's what you meant.

>>315681571
Obviously I know that, idiot, but why the hat? Like I said, it looks fucking retarded.

>>315680302
>Reunion scene is animate
Oh, so THAT'S what I was noticing. I knew something seemed different about it.

>>315681446
Noice

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>duke Dunan actually started to improve
well color me impressed

>>315623901
a very boring game and story. dont bother with the side stuffs and focus on finishing it because you still have two more games to play
the battle system is good enough to enjoy it but the ost is shit by falcom standard

the second one is a little better at least

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>>315683667
>The ost is shit

I'm sorry?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z07WdBYBEe0

Also why skip sidequests? Most of the funny moments come from then, plus they give out good quartz.

>>315683812
Don't feed the trolls.

>>315683812

You don't need to take the bait.

>>315683812
and you just proved this
the ost was average at best so its shit by falcom standard

>Also why skip sidequests?
the side quests were the most boring part in the first one
I always try to get every single side quest in any jrpg but not in this one. they made me drop the game every time I decide to go back

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>>315683812
Best sidequest

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>>315685429
SC has some GOAT sidequests.

>>315685623
SC has GOAT everything.

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>>315686538
>>315685623
SC has the GOAT loli

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>>315676879

>>315654862
Damn seeing this is another thing after have played the game.

ch6 spoilers

Do you get to return to the ark? There were some doors locked out by the force fields you couldn't access

>>315687418
Most overrated character in the game.
I find her incredibly annoying and overhyped even by the game itself.
Even her robot is weak as shit.

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>Mfw someone says FC evo art is better than original

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>>315687712
And yet she's the strongest party member in The 3rd offensively.

>>315687418
I'm not a big fan of lolis, but I have to admit, if there was a GOAT then it would have to be her. She's pretty badass.

>>315688131
Thats not Tita in her Metal Gear

>>315688131
>>315688245
Neither of those are Kevin. Faggots.

>>315688372
Kevin is the best defensively. Renne has higher damage and a better orbment.

>>315688372
Since when is Kevin a loli

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>>315677208
>Anelace game by Platinum never

>>315627607
>Broken
Agate. No competition, any one who can't recognize how stupidly OP agate is isn't playing the game right. I could have Killed Lorentz or whatever blade lords name is and his 2 tigers before he had a 2nd chance to move, but I decided to let him move again so he could clone himself and make the fight a little challenging.

The first thing to understand that AOE is king in SC. AOE and speed are pretty much all that matters. If you can survive the first round of hits from a boss You pretty much won the defensive battle thanks to speed down and Speed up EX

Dragon Dive has way more attack power than any other Limit break and is tied for the best AoE with Joshua, Dragon Dive can easily do 5K+ to every enemy on the map end game, much more if you get lucky with turn bonuses(or get lucky with Strike 2 quartz). Agate can do this twice a turn rotation plus can contribute to 2 chain crafts, with Schera if you're lucky he can do 3 S crafts and contribute to 4 chain crafts per turn rotation. that's going to be around 25k single target damage in one turn rotation(again much more if you get crit and STR ups). Best defense is a good offense is very true in SC, most boss fights come with a decent bit of trash mobs, which only Agate can take out before they even have a chance to move.

In terms of Early game Final break is still the best source of AOE damage and Beatdown is the best source for single target damage, Agate can also contribute to 2-3 Chain crafts before firing off his LB, since there's a limit to how far down the turn order you can go there's no down side to using him over and over to wreck shit. This becomes even more abusable once you acquire Scher and get AT advance.

He also has the best crowd control in the game that is often forgotten, Flame smash pushes enemies towards the other side of the map, you can cheese most boss battles this way. (this may work endgame too)

I could write more in a separate post but I think you get the gist.

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>>315677208
>>315689149

>>315689361

Cont.

>Almost Broken

Schera
She's average other than her attack advance craft which is one of the most valuable in the game, that alone brings her up to high tier. This is the only way to get a spell cast off before the enemy gets a chance to move in boss fights. Use speed down, and the fight is pretty much over. also learn how to use Chain crafts.


End game Zane

End game Zane and early Game Zane are entirely different entities. Early Game Zane is a worthless piece of shit who can only watch as the rest of your team does all the work

End Game Zane gets a 60% STR buff and Thunder Kick. This is the best source for single target damage save for Agate/clever schera Chain Attack abuse. also has some mild aoe potential. His S crafts aren't worth using most of the time because you want to spam thunder kick. Fuck the Defense orbments, he has enough Defense. You want attack.

>I don't see what's so good about him tier

Kevin

I don't know where to place him, everyone else thinks he's OP so I must be missing something, single target Artes Damage sucks endgame and that's the only time he's really available Agate and Chain Crafts are all you really need for AOE. He has Grailsphere, but you need a whopping 200 CP to make it better than Earthwall, and Defense isn't a problem if you have a proper offense. Maybe Sacrificial arrow is good? I never had CP problems. I guess you could use it to easily get Agate up to 200 after a wild rage. Might be OP.

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>Good


Joshua

He was really good in FC, and he's still really good here, just not as much so because Attack Delays only work against a very select few bosses where Joshy is available. Dual Strike is actually really good for single Target damage not to mention you get double CP gain so you can make the CP cost almost nothing, and His S Craft is great. Only S craft I use besides Agate's endgame. He's fast, but by using speed down you can make the speed difference between him and other members negligible. He's also proficient in artes which is good for contributing aoe damage. But not more so than any other caster. I'm not sure if he's better than Oliver/Kevin.


Oliver

Best spell caster save for maybe Kevin, but unlike Kevin he's available in the parts of the game where attack artes aren't complete shit. Also has a decent S craft early game.
Nothing else to say, just all around solid.

>Meh
Estelle

She can carry non combat quarts, Hard break 2 is actually a very decent move. S crafts suck, morale is good, she can do the shitty support jobs so good character don't have to. Decent for chain crafts

Kloe

3 water restrictions kills her. She's worse than Oliver in every way and has pretty much the same availability, only advantage is Sieg craft 2. but you have to put a hit gem on her or it misses way too often. Her S craft can be a nice oh shit button in the Worm fight if they use too many earthquakes. She's also squishier than Oliver.

>Awful

Tita

She has a very limited usefulness early game because vital canon is a decent heal. Her attack is also good, in addition to it having an AOE property.

She has the worst orbment lines in the game save for Zane, I'd rather Make Agate a Spell caster. like seriously what the fuck. She's also squishy having half as much health as the rest of your party, normally I don't take defense into consideration, but hers is so far behind that it's a serious problem

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>>315691286
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>>315692603
To think that someone cares this much about how people view the effectiveness of their favorite characters in battle.

Fun Fact: I did my first playthrough of SC choosing Schera to accompany Estelle, but didn't even use her at advance craft once until the end stages of the game. Hell, I didn't even realize she had it. I also used Kloe extensively.

It doesn't fucking matter. Maybe if you're an insecure fuck who feels a need to use hard on their first playthrough it might, but TiTS isn't about the battle system. It isn't about showing how 'skilled' you think you are or how good you are at determining which characters to use. TiTS is about the STORY. That's IT.

It's truly amazing to me how many people here on the Internet don't realize that.

>>315692603
Joshua doesn't need delay arts to be extremely viable as when coupled with gladiator's headband he can unleash his s-craft or charge for almost infinite amount of dual strikes after a singe aoe spell cast and he's actually most suited for the best line of spells in the game.

Orbal down makes his further casts extremely potent, especially given how fucking fast he is.

>>315628401
I just realized Olivier isn't in that picture. What gives?

>>315693257


Are you ok?

No one is attack your playstyle, some people just care to discuss which characters and strategies are more effective

>, but TiTS isn't about the battle system. It isn't about showing how 'skilled' you think you are or how good you are at determining which characters to use. TiTS is about the STORY. That's IT.


Lol hardcore projecting. If it were just about the story why would the designers have included multiple difficulties, a complex and unique battle system or even a battle system at all?

>>315693694
He is in fact pure evil like everyone from the Empire.

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>>315688131

only 7k.

Did they downscale the numbers?, that's nothing Agate can do more than that at the end of SC

>>315687864
Insert Cock here.

Is there any other secret bosses in chapter 8 aside from double penguin god rape team and tower snails?