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Fallout 4 build plans

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Hey guys what kind of character are you planning to do?

I'm willing to start with some kind of sniper with a lot of crit and VATS action points.

Basically, that will be my start:
Perception: 8
Agility : 7
Luck: 8
Intel: 2
All the rest: 1

Here's how you can build your character:
http://www.rpg-gaming.com/fo4.html

So what stats are the most important for you?
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Tinkerer/Mad Scientist/Tony Stark

Imagine that scene in iron man 3 where Tony breaks into the mandarin's mansion and takes everyone out with hi tech stuff he built on the fly.

S 4
P 5
E 1
C 4
I 10
A 3
L 1

I don't know if I need to swap C, E, L, or P a little. I might just take nerd rage to make up for the low E.
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>>315560583
You're going to want enough E to at least get life giver imo.
Keep Int at 9 and just get the bobblehead for a free point.
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>>315559391
>Hey guys what kind of character are you planning to do?
A demigod with all 10s in special and all the perks.

Not really possible to play it any other way, every character will end up like this, just like in 3.
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Seeing as Vats are entirely useless, there is only 4 dialog options, and every weapon has a melee attack.
S 4
P 10
E 10
C 1
I 1
A 1
L 1

Because Strength is only needed to hold the gun and C,I,A,L are useless in this game now since it is entirely a FPS.
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>>315559391
>playing Fallout 4
>after /v/ warned you it would be bad
Every year we get a new batch of newfags who don't listen. A week from now you'll all be here making threads about how bad Fallout 4 is.
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inb4 wasted STR bobblehead, I don't care.
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>>315561827
>stop liking what I don't like

>>315559391
I'm going with a high int build for energy weapons/ power armor. Moderate luck and charisma too probably.
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>>315559391
I'm doing the "Still haven't bought a 2GB GPU" build.

>tfw
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4416626

everything you need to experience the game
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>>315562002
what site is this?
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>>315562002
What site is that.
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>>315562503
>>315562556

http://www.nukahub.com/tools/special?s=10&p=1&e=5&c=2&i=4&a=3&l=3

most accurate builder at the moment.
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>>315562646
Thanks, pretty sweet being able to see what perks will be available.
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Making a High Str and Agl build to climb ladders as fast as possible. So hyped.
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>>315560913
Eh, I like the idea of being squishy when outside of my armor so I have to rely on sneak (A 3).

Maybe use non automatic rifle and pistols when out of power armor and heavy weapons and melee when in armor. Also sneaking around planting explosives, hacking turrets, hacking robots when naked.
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Strength - 3
Perception - 5
Endurance - 3
Charisma - 6
Intelligence - 3
Agility - 4
Luck - 4

I'm still messing around with it, but my idea is to have a smooth talking Doc holliday/Roland character who is good with revolvers and rifles. No energy weapons.
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Any word on the leaks if starting with high INT gives you more skill points? I notice it says INT affects experience gain so I'm wondering if its the same or similar as 3 and NV were?

Starting with high INT in those gives you tons of extra skill points over the span of a playthrough..
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>>315563313
There are no skills in FO4 and thus, no skill points.
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>>315563313
>Skill points
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Charisma is broken, there are no more speech checks apparently
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>>315563313
just affects xp. so in a way you'll be earning perk points quicker for doing the same tasks.
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>>315563957
How do those titty tan lines work exactly?
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>>315563506
>>315564405
oh snap i didn't realize there's no skill points, so I guess earning more XP is sorta the same thing, but its probably not as good as it was in the older games.
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>>315563957
J U S T
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>>315563957

>0% on the butt
kek
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>>315561827

Willing to take the chance.

Sincerely,

Oldfag
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>>315564526
No level cap so it just affects rate really.
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At level 6.
Strength 3
Perception 6
Endurance 9
Charisma 6
Intelligence 6
Agility 2
Luck 1

I call it the Mayor build.
Every opportunity to perform pretty much all of the unique content the game has to offer.

Besides the melee weapon creation. But really. there is a dedicated melee button now for all weapons. Why bother.
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>>315564526
Wow, I didn't know that either and if there is no speech check for charisma....what would be the best build? High INT? fuck everything else?
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inteligence is useless
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>>315561827
If we had to not play games because of /v/ opinion nobody would play games period.

I m exited for it personaly
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>>315559391
Mostly a single shot rifle sneak asshole, but he can use nearly all small guns.

S - 3 (armor mods)
P - 4 (lockpicking)
E - 1 (toughness/fuck endurance)
C - 5 (lone wanderer, 1 point off making a town)
I - 5 (hacking, salvaging items, 1 point off high tech mods)
A - 7 (stealth crits)
L - 3 (bloody mess)

Bobbleheads should get me those two things I'm one point off of. They're things I don't want to do until later in the game. The only thing I'm kind of far away from that I want is 6 luck for better criticals.
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Are swords confirmed?
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>>315565351
So you don't want to make guns, hack computers and salvage parts from shit for the guns you can't make?
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>>315561827
>Implying you're part of a sekrit circle who determines which games should or shouldn't be played.
In a week, YOU'LL be the one making a post talking about how much fun you're having.
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>>315565686
Flaming chainsaw looking blade in concept art. Not sure it is in game.

Looked like something straight out of Warhammer 40k.
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>>315559391
>9 str
>9 end
>6 Int
>1 rest

Fuck VATS
Fuck charisma
Fuck sneaking

Melee motherfuckers. Get the base perks, find the INT bobblehead, get to 10 INT and get nerd rage & ghoulish. Fucking win the game.
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How do you even have character builds in this game when they raped the RPG elements?
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>>315561827
Actually it's the same people who make the 'warning' threads who complain a week later. The people who were looking forward to it are actually playing the game. I speak from experience. Every game /v/ has 'warned' me about I've enjoyed and don't come back to /v/ for months until the next big AAA release is coming out so I can be entertained by the shitposting.
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I need to look over the perks again before I think of assigning points. I'm gonna be making a punching/melee focused build.
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I'm gonna do what I always do; use the console to have 10 in everything.
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>>315566128
Vats are confirmed useless in the game now.
They made the game fully functional around manual aiming.

That and the only real use of vats is to see what the enemy is resistant to so you don't attack them with that type of weapon.
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>>315561630

You need 6 or 7 INT to build or modify energy weapons, why don't you like the superior weapon type, anon?
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>>315566405
This. It just proves that misery loves company since these jaded fags like to project themselves onto people who actually enjoy games.
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So half of players are gonna be sneak snipers? Didn't you get tired of that shit in Skyrim?
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>>315566826
Mah nigga. Cheating = best thing about games
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>>315567673
No, Half of the players are gonna Pickpocket and loot safes.
You are not playing Fallout correctly if you ain't doing one of those things.
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>>315566826
You must of loved Skyrim then
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END is such a fucking worthless dump stat.
The only use is if you're shit and need the crutch of more hp. The perks are shit.
CHA is mostly useless garbage too.
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Whenever I try to play these games "correctly" I get bored out of my fucking mind, so I'll probably do a high str high endurance unarmed retard and punch everything.
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Gonna be a sneaky shotgun guy.
Plus enough points to craft shit.
Eventually get Gun-fu and Concentrated Fire.
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>>315568936
Forgot picture
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>>315568659
>there will never be a Charisma based caster outside of tabletop ever again
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Shotguns, energy weapons, and pistols will be my main weapons.
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>>315569227
Charisma is only useless nowadays because devs no longer care about making a fucking RPG something that you can role play in. It's all about voice acting, shitty dialogue wheels and the idea that stats alone make an rpg.
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>>315565312
I would say something along the lines of
S = 3
P = 6
E = 3
C = 6
I = 6
A = 3
L = 1
for a energy based Sneaking thief with access to all the new shit available in the game.

Besides making melee weapons. But with each level you can put a point in either a Perk or a Stat so you can later put a point in a perk from the stat.

People thinking end game would be a character with 10's in all stats is stupid.
Highly doubt the level cap isn't at the very most 100. Making anyone who specialized better than anyone who wanted 10s.
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Assuming I get all the bobbleheads, so I'll start with:
S - 9 - Pain Train baby
P - 1
E - 6 - Adamantium skeleton
C - 1
I - 1
A - 8 - Moving target, Blitz
L - 2 - Bloody Mess

Only using AP for sprinting and Blitz --> Pain Train and smash everything into a bloody mess.
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>>315570545
What do you mean by bobble heads?
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S2 P8 E2 C3 I4 A7 L9

Armorer?

Pickpocket 4
Rifleman 5
Locksmith 3
Sniper 3

Lone wanderer 3

Gun nut 4
Hacker 3

Sneak?
mister sandman?
Ninja 3

Bloody mess 3
Better criticals 3
Critical banker 3
Grim reapers sprint 3
Four leaf clover 4

This uses bobbleheads, maximizes sniper rifle damage through general, sniper, non automatic, sneak and crit damage bonuses. It also boosts crit regen and utility. The perks with ? are trade ups depending on game mechanics, sandman gets dropped if snipers cant be silenced or silencing drops damage too low, sneak is ignored if base values are high enough and a bonus point goes to ST to get armorer as a back up.

This assumes a level of 50 with no perks swapped for stats, however there is no level cap so eventually you can have 10 in all stats and all perks filled.

I always play sneaky sniper first. My second play would likely be a ST/IN build for Power armor synergy.
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>>315570773
Bobbleheads that you find in the game that increase your base stats by 1 each.
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>>315570773
There are bobblehead figures you can collect that boost your stats by 1.
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S =3
P =5
E = 3
C =1
I =7
A =8
L = 1
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>>315570895
>>315570871
Oh just normal bobble-heads
Your posts had me previously under the impression that post nuclear fallout in game allowed you to find hidden bobble-heads to boaster your initial stats because you actually do shit in the game.

It is just normal bobble-heads then.
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>>315559391
Myself I'm going to focus on pistols, weapon bashing and always be drunk.
Party boy with have charisma but still an asshole to everyone,
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>>315571349
Your post is terribly written and your point is lost.
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Gonna be a smart charismatic milf who tries to charm everything and sneaks pasts fights she cant charm her way out of. Gonna use one handed pistols to do any dirty work that needs to be done.
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>>315571575
Sorry, English is not my first language.
I thought anon was talking about the bobble-heads being available to you before you got to distribute your stats. That they were hidden in the starting area of the game before the bombs dropped.

I believe I fucked up by saying post nuclear fallout instead of pre-nuclear fallout.
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>>315570782
Nice, I do the same. Sneaky sniper build first then into the melee/heavy guns power armor build

I'm going for a similar build, will probably use some of these ideas.
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>>315559391
>builds
>Fallout 4
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>>315572031
Enjoy fighting your way through 99% of the content because bethesda cannot into RPGs anymore.
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>>315559391
>he calls runs "builds"
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Going for a "big iron on his hip" build. There is no problem a revolver can't solve.
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>>315572414
>runs

If anything, its a playthrough. Runs makes it sound like diarrhea.
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>>315561630

Pretty much this. No reason to invest in Charisma or Luck since all the roleplaying is gone.
Agility is needed for guns right? Perception just for energy weaps, and since I'm going regular gun build, it's gonna be

S 6
P 1
E 8
C 1
I 1
A 10
L 1
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>>315559391
Karl from Slingblade since they have the perfect haircut for it and I think itll be hilarious.
Going 1 int(hoping it changes dialogue) and only using melee
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>>315572031
Well you are in luck.
The game actually allows you to charm literally everything that could fight you.
All you need is.
E =9
C = 10
I = 8
And you have access to Charming literally everything with words, With Technology, or a gun to the face.

The endurance is there so you can walk passed Ghouls at rank 3 Ghoulish.
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>>315572617
>he calls being Indian "diarrhea"
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>>315572617
Diarrhoea sounds like an accurate way to describe playing the game, really.
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>>315572393
see
>>315572753
ya clown
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>>315572704
Pump some points into luck so you can get idiot Savant.
Counteracts the fuck all EXP you get for being clinically brain-dead.
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Can I do an entire playthrough smooth-talking my way through all sorts of shit?

This is the only way I play RPG's for the most part. I usually don't partake if it doesn't exist. Never played the 3D Fallout's so I don't know if ti exists.
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>>315572872
> Pointing your gun at things counts as charming them.

It's a fucking shitty mechanic. If they could get away with calling it calm magic from skyrim, they would. Less effort.
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>>315559391

uninstall wizard
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S 4
P 4
E 1
C 1
I 4
A 7
L 7

Sneaky punching critical man build
Intelligence and Perception are just for hacking terminals and picking locks
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>>315572684
Perception does nothing for Energy weapons.
Only Rifles.
Intelligence is for energy and radiation weapons.
You need Charisma for basically everything Base building related and Agility is actually the worst stat in the game. With endurance and Luck tied for second.
>>315573027
Smooth talking, No. Not really. the only thing int he game that governs talking is lady killer. don't even know how that shit works with only 4 dialog options.
but you can make most shit passive to under your command by pointing a gun to their faces or hacking robots with Charisma maxed and Intelligence at 8.
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>playing as a whitey instead of the master race

I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
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S 3
P 5
E 2
C 3
I 5
A 8
L 2

Gonna try to be a sneaky loner.
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>>315573681
>No. Not really
That's disappointing.
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>>315573817
>OOGA BOOGA Man that still lives in huts
>Master Race
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>>315559391
Are there still skills in this game? If so, max INT.
Otherwise, max AGI, take all points out of INT and put them in PER
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>>315559391
I'm going to play as a robot, since apparently that is what the characters are
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>>315573681
>the only thing int he game that governs talking is lady killer
You know if the charisma skill itself will?
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Strength 3
Perception 8
Endurance 1
Charisma 3
Intelligence 5
Agility 7
Luck 1

The first few levels are crucial to pump into special because of how fast it will be to level up.
I get this feeling I'll be 100% okay without perks right away in this game.
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>>315574381
You don't get skill points anymore
Every level gets you 1 point to put in a SPECIAL stat or a perk tied to the amount of a SPECIAL stat you have.
Perks have multiple ranks and Pick pocketing hacking and lock picking are now perks.
Perks in which you don't have access to put points in until you reach level 2.
So regardless of how awesome your stats are. You can't hack steal pickpocket or anything like a skill until you level up and put a point in the perk.
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>>315573817
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I usually do high charisma because I like talking my way out of situations, with the gimped dialogue system is this still a decent option?
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>>315572684
>>315561630
>Not investing in charisma because of the dialogue restirctions
I get what you guys are coming from but you need to understand that to do anything useful with your settlements you need a rank 6 C perk
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>>315574839
I would at least put a point or two in the essential hacking lock picking and pick pocketing perks before throwing points in stats that probably won't matter if you build right at the start.
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is there any reason at all to put points in endurance?
all of the things it improves can be covered with stimpacks, better armor, and chems
it seems so useless
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>>315563957
>shadbase
honestly though his vaultgirl is pretty hot, hope somebody does a ui overhaul based off her
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i kind of want to do a cannibal ghoul run for the first one.
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>>315575032
The best perk endurance gives is the one that requires no stat investment. The rest of the good ones are too spread out to justify. At most you'd put 2 points and wait for a bobble head if you want Life Giver.
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>>315575018
Where did you hear this? I know shit all about the settlements
Also isn't it an end-game thing? When you have 10 in all SPECIALs anyway
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S2
P10
E2
C1
I5
A6
L1

Weapon will be some sniper.
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>>315575018
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4_perks
>Local Leader
>As the ruler everyone turns to, you are able to establish supply lines between your workshop settlements.
>You can build stores and workstations at workshop settlements.

among other nifty tricks the C perk tree has
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>attempting to make builds when you have to deal with such limitations
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>>315575738
>>315575445
shit
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>>315559391
3 8 3 6 6 1 1

Going for all the armor/non-melee crafting options including settlement improvements, and rifle specialization without exploiting stealth. Option to play solo or with companion, if any of them are interesting enough.
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would a rocket launcher be classified under big guns or explosives?
thinking about doing my run with assault rifle and a rocket launcher for the big guys
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>>315575156
It's already a thing
http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3155009-vault-meat-mod-vault-girl-ui/
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>>315575998
Almost positive it's Explosive, but I can't say this wiki has positive information. It makes sense to me, though.
http://fallout4.wiki.fextralife.com/Weapons
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>cqc unarmed
>traditional guns of all types
>sneak
>pick the "questioning" option every time
Anything else for a solid snake build?
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>>315576086
shit they work fast
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>>315563306
I'm with you. I never was into the energy weapons. best gun in FO3 was the "chinese assault riffle" and in NV the "survivalist rifle". fuck charge packs….
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Stealth Sniper because I'm bad at games and I'm okay with that. After that I usually do an all melee route though.
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>>315563957
Can I ruin this for you? Her face looks like Egorapter's alien girl friend.
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M I N
A
X
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>build
there are like 7 stats it's a fucking joke it's a half baked action game now
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>>315559391
Gary Stu build

Strength 10
Perception 10
Endurance 10
Charisma 10
Intelligence 10
Agility 10
Luck 10
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>>315576942
They replaced stats with perk path building. Honestly it restricts how you distribute your points since they're locked to your initial SPECIAL picks but hey feel free to believe the old style is the best stat system senpai
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>>315562646
>those Luck perks
hnnnnnnnnnnnnng
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>>315563306
This, going to make a cowboy type character. But also be an alcoholic for the shits
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>>315577362
Almost all the perks are nothing but percentage increases of an original perk. It's an illusion of quantity when it's just the same shit over and over. New Vegas had more perks AND had skills.
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AM I CRAZY FOR BEING MORE HAPPY THAT FO3 IS GOING TO BE ON XBOX ONE THAN FO4 COMING OUT?
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>>315577362
and the perks are mostly the same shit as skyrim 10% damage etc it's a fucking joke
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>>315559391
S 1
P 6
E 4
C 1
I 6
A 8
L 10

i don't know what the total number of points available is, but it'll be something like that. luck builds are fun as fuck, i'll probably go with some sort of ranged build with something to compensate for when i'm forced into close range.
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>>315577749
Skills were always a waste though, it only encouraged absolute precision when it came to your INT stat. Every play through I had to precisely calculate what my INT should be in order to maximize what skills I wanted by what level (assuming I would not max out, which I never did) and accounting for bobbles, skill books, etc. My F3 start was basically beelining for the Int bobble before even engaging in the open world.

Taking skills out of the equation means people are free to actually do more varied stat builds. Just look at the thread. There's even support in the Luck tree for lowering Int!

You also need to account for multiple perks being present in the upgrades for these perks - there are at least 4 of New Vegas' perks in F4's sneak perks, for example.
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>>315576895
I shot for Night person.
If I'm gonna be sneaking and picking locks and junk a little more Perception and intelligence would do me good.
Idiot Savant is kind of worthless if you are rather intelligent.
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>>315559391
Int is the most important stat
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>>315578204
True but crits doing 2.5x damage is worth it
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what does it mean for the nuclear physicist perk about "radiation weapons"?
what would that apply to besides the fat man launcher?
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>>315578191
I never had to do any of that and I got what the perks I wanted just fine. If you found skill point management to be hard then you are the exact reason the system is casualized.
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>>315578416
I did not say it was hard, I implied it was *limiting*, because it is. Your build in 3 & NV, if you were min-maxing (i.e. NOT being a casual like you just implied), depended first and foremost on the INT you would spend in order to raise your skills.
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>>315559391
>Hey guys what kind of character are you planning to do?

I wish I could make a serial rapist berserker.

Like I run into a female raider, hit her with a mailbox, and then rape her.

Run into a Cazadore, hit it with a mailbox, rape it.

Run into a Securitron, hit it with a mailbox, rape it.
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>>315576390
>http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3155009-vault-meat-mod-vault-girl-ui/
I LOVE IT. Why was there never a vault girl????
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>>315578559
The new system is even more limiting. It relies on SPECIAL, where certain points negate all others, and most perks are the same as the last but with a slightly bigger percentage.
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>>315578672
As opposed to skill points, where increasing the skill is LITERALLY the same as before, only with a slightly bigger percentage?
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>>315578724
But the perks were entirely unique. You seem to forget that the past games had both. This game is JUST perks and they are not unique anymore. It's all mostly percentage increases. Having skills and perks, and SPECIAL, allowed for much more dynamic and in-depth character creation.
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>>315578574
Yes….. I hope to do this to whole pieces of post apocalyptic Boston.
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>>315578574
There are reasons why FO4 uses the same engine as skyrim anon.
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>>315578637
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/44765/?
This one's been out for a while. basically a female version of the classic/lore-friendly vaultboy.
I'm downloading the sexy version anyways
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>>315578407
This loading screen talks about a gamma gun pistol.
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>>315562503
>>315562556

>2015
>Still not using Reddit
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I'm going for a stealt/sniper/melee combo

Considering I'll need 6 str for strongback anyways I figured I might as well get silly and go melee inside buildings and what-not. idk how my survivability will but but I'm going to make it work somehow.
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>>315561483

You could do that in NV too.

Easily.
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I hope hardcore mode is an option at the beginning...
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Will there be porn mods on consoles? Asking for a friend.
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>>315579545
Don't count on it :/
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>>315561483
SHUT THE FUCK UP RETARD.
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>>315578909
>tgm
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>>315579545
It apparently has to go through Bethesda.
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I've been told there are 28 starting points but every build planner shows 21

Can anyone confirm either?
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I'm so pissed that there's only 4 dialouge options. I went 10 charcisma and 100 speech in every Fallout game.
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>>315579984
28 points.
1 point minimum.
21 decisions.
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>>315580014

this desu senpai
>>
http://www.nukahub.com/tools/special?s=1&p=8&e=1&c=6&i=4&a=7&l=1

the silent killer - pussy rogue of the wasteland - the one with the well-stocked settlements
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>>315578909
How the fuck are they not unique anymore?

>pick a special build
>rank up skills
>pick perks

vs

>pick a special build
>pick perks

it's literally just cutting out redundancy.
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>>315580273
Don't want Decent energy/radiation weapons?
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>>315580041
Ah. Well fuck that makes sense.

Ninja or Sniper perk for best starting sniper build then?
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>>315564509
Spray on tan or bleach the top of her tits, Or just bad shading.
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>>315580469
>pick perks
>your choices are the same perk but with a larger percentage

That's what it is now
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>>315580469
Most Perks in Fallout had nothing to do with boosting a skill or a stat.
They added new options for dialog or new ways to kill things or random events happening.
The no skill system crams only 70 perks into the game. 30% of which are just skills you had in the other games and generic stat or damage/defensive increases.
Nothing unique.
FO3 and NV had well over 100 perks.
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I wanna make a pistol gunslinger type of build. High in VATS, crits, and maybe have the character be a little tankish. What do you recommend?
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What stats are best for speech and barter? I remember them being really useful/important in past fallout games
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>>315581112
Endurance, luck and agility will be your best friends then.
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>>315581112
High luck, perception, and agility
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>>315580609

Ninja, you won't be getting scoped rifles for a little bit, unless you also level up intelligence and by the time you do find them, you'll have leveled up Perception to get Sniper anyway
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>>315581490
I plan on putting 3 into intl for gunsmith. Would ninja still trump it? I plan on using more skills in agility than perception anyways
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>>315581112
Something along the lines of this
http://www.nukahub.com/tools/special?s=1&p=4&e=3&c=3&i=3&a=7&l=7

You could venture further into intelligence so you can have lazer pistols.
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>>315581642
You need 4 int for hacking, and 5 for salvaging items to have enough materials to reliably craft what you want. And if an energy sniper is better than a conventional sniper you'll need 6 to mod it.
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>>315559391
S 1
P 1
E 2
C 3
I 1
A 10
L 10

Super lucky, dumb as bricks unnaturally nimble noble retard.
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>>315559391
I'm making Negan from The Walking Dead

S 8
PE 1
EN 3
CH 7
IN 1
AG 1
LU 7

Fully maxed Big Leagues, Lady Killer, Intimidation, Idiot Savant, Grim Reaper's Sprint and Bloody Mess by the end of the game
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>>315580989

This, most perks in nv were unique and added changes to the gameplay, now everthing is a "20%" piece of shit shit perk.
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rick
S:2
P:4
E:2
C:5 (party master who hates people)
I:10
A:2
L:3
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>>315581320
Two points in Charisma is all you need since the speech enhancer is 2 C and barther 1 C
Further down the Charisma line in terms of stat points you can get the ability to control trade routes between settlements.

Though with 4 options to talk about in conversations and one vague word representing your input I don't think being charismatic is going to be any fun in this Fallout.
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>>315581862
Damnit man. What could I do about this? My plan was to use idiot savant in the luck tree instead of going high intel. I want to eventually craft godly rifles though. Should I scratch having strong back at the start of game and use its points towards intel?
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>>315562382
>mfw .5gb
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>>315582201
What in the hell would be the point of strong back. You will have companions to carry your shit. You will have settlements to hold your shit.
If you are not purely going non-charismatic loner retard hulk there is no reason for points in strong back.
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>>315582201
If you go lone wanderer you get +100 carry weight. It also gives you +25% damage letting you one shot things more reliably. Going past Armorer on a gun build is a bad idea.
Ninja and Better Criticals should stack as that interaction worked in other games.
Because of bobbleheads you can cut about one point of something you don't want until later in the game like Energy Weapon modifications.
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>>315582147
set charisma to 2
perception to 7
>energy weps

have fun being schwifty
>>
S 4
P 7
E 5
C 6
I 6
A 6
L 6

I always run with this
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>>315582772
Rick charmed a hive mind and has friends from multiple dimensions and planets.
Also he needs to be a functioning drunk you're or not playing Rick.
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1/4/6/4/9/2/2

le quirky scientist xp
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>implying fallout 4 "builds" mean anything at all

kek, it's just a fps now
>>
haven't been paying attention much

why not 9 int so you get to 10 right away by finding the bobblehead. max out dem skills
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>>315582748
Thank you so damn much for pointing lone wanderer out! I completely forgot about the carry weight increase and I don't plan on having companions, dog or not.
>>
Special: 5, 4, 1, 6, 8, 1, 3

Yay, nay?
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>>315583140
You don't get the perks in the stats if you have the stat that high of a number.
They just give you the ability to put a point in those Perks.
The Most of the Perks can have multiple points in them.
Simply having level 10 intelligence doesn't automatically grant you all of it's perks when you start the game.
Every level gives you a point you can spend on either increasing 1 stat or increasing the rank of a perk you meet the requirements for.
Also Bobble Heads exist so being one point off is pretty much what you want.
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>>315559391
I want to be a sniper too, but I hate VATS.
What do?

Pic related: choose your chatacter.
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>>315563957
>>315564509
Theyre... backwards. She is MORE tan where the skin would be covered.
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>>315573027
Charisma affects your chances to pass speech checks. Speech checks are still in the game.

As for whether the speech checks allow you to avoid or initiate violence in F4, I don't know.
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Strength - 10
Endurance - 10
Perception - 1
Charisma - 5
Intelligence - 1
Agility - 3
Luck - All the rest

I can't believe you all aren't doing a babe ruth run your first time through
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>>315583410
I would drop at least 2 points on intelligence and put them in either more endurance or more strength
What use is Chems and hacking a robot going to do for a Heavy weapons build?
Wouldn't you rather hold heavier weapons or fire from the Hip more accurately or at least take a more hits before going down like a bitch.
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>>315583742
Nice, didn't know somebody already took a pic of all the followers.
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>>315583742
Take all the good skills, and ignore V.A.T.S.. One of the fist mods that will get made most likely is slowmo using AP anyway.
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>>315574848
You can hack and lockpicks with no perks or stats, just at the lowest level.
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I want to make a Ghoul Cowboy. can I finally make a ghoul character in this game?
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>>315583742
dump everything into P and S
>S for increased sneak (crouch) damage
>P for rifle damage modifiers and Sniper (Better scope-in handling) perk
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>>315583742
One of the Perception perks decreases sway on sniper rifles as well as added knockdown chance to the shots. so if you can't kill it at least knock it on it's ass until you can fire again.
Seems you would do well from a Perception Intelligence build.
Snipe with a radiation gun.
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>>315584339
Doesnt that require a script extender though? We'll have to wait a little bit for some important shit.
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>>315574987
CHR allows you to pass speech checks so I would imagine so.
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>>315584551
There's a perk that lets you be a ghoul on the inside
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>>315563306
basically a douche?
>>315565307
the douche that keeps going and going?
>>315565665
A sneaky bastard that no one likes?
>>315566128
actually realistic for an apocalyptic survivor?
>>315559391
Gonna go all book of Eli.
Big nigga with lots o strength and high intelligence
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>>315584745
Sniping without VATS is still fine. You'll be one shotting everything, and sprinting around more than other people.
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>>315584339
I hope so. Seems easy to implement since Nerd Rage should have that already in stock.
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>>315575837
Idiot, the perks replace retarded numerical skill increases and are much more intelligent and efficient.
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>>315584551
no senpai
should be pretty easy to mod when GECK comes through though in 2016
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>>315578909
fuckin tommy
>>
I need to fucking get around to finishing new vegas. Abandoned my small guns run halfway into the main story and a handful of side quests. Kinda just stopped playing my subsequent unarmored energy weapons run shortly after getting to the strip and massing up some money - was due to go collect mainstay weapons.
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>>315580989
>Most Perks in Fallout had nothing to do with boosting a skill or a stat.

>>315582141
>This, most perks in nv were unique
>now everthing is a "20%" piece of shit shit perk

Do you guys hear yourselves?
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will there be a level cap or can you max out every stat and perk through grinding?
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>>315585157
>african american
>but no asain american
>hispanic american
>ghoul american
baka desu senpai
>>
If the player turns out to be an android there had better be a scene with music from terminator 2 playing where you do something outrageous.

I would forgive everything for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVZ2NShfCE8
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>>315572684
>>315575018
>>315561630
There are still dialogue checks, that mexican leaker said there were numerous times options were red because he didnt have enough Charisma, but also checks for intelligence.
>>
10 Luck
10 Charisma.

Lucky, loveable bastard that'll stumble his way through the wasteland.
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>>315585291
>I think I made a point because I post 21 perks that did percentage increase out of a list of about 200 perks or more from two separate game.
Bravo. You failed.
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>>315559391
Jack Naught (female). Reformed criminal who backslides somewhat out of the Vault. Foul-mouthed but with an innate need to protect the helpless. Zero mercy for scum.

High Agility and Perception, moderate Endurance. Horrible Charisma and Luck.
Shotguns and pistols.

You are now hearing Jack from Mass Effect. "Hello, dead people."
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>>315585297
You can max out everything, but you'll need to hit level 264 to get everything if you get all the bobble heads and aren't already at 10 in a stat when you get one.
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>>315577749
Wrong.
>>
S: 10
P: 10
E: 10
C: 10
I: 10
A: 10
L: 10
all skills 100
I'll reach this eventually
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>>315586051
>skills
>>
Handsome Jack build, probably. 10 Charisma, don't know what else to have.
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>>315586134
To be fair to him, it's still kind of a habit after all these years. He might have meant relevant Perks.
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>>315578416
Found the nostalgia neckbeard.

The new system is smarter and more efficient. It is less limiting and forces toy to make many sacrifices and choices early on that will affect your character for most of your playthrough.

The old system was always "dump charisma and max int". Every. Time.
>>
S: 3
P: 2
E: 7
C: 6
I: 6
A: 2
L: 2

Wanna try the crafing system in the first run and use mostly high tech weapons
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>>315578909
The perks were not entirely unique in the old games. In fact many of them were just percent increases.

The high tier perks in F4 coupled with the perks that you get from bobble heads and magazines are more unique than F4 or NV.
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>>315577749
Looking at your picture, you're wrong

Well done?
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>>315576895
website?
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>>315583742
I'll choose the school shooter on the left.
>>
Luck 10, the rest doesn't matter.
>>
i7-4820k @ 3.7 GHz
16.00 GB RAM
gtx 980 ti 6 GB

will i be able to run this shit on ultra?
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>>315559391
10END and 6PER at level 1, take Solar Powered and Night Person ASAP, then grab the crafting perks.
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>>315563957
Do a normal playthrough first you nerd

wait for lewd mods to be vault meat
>>
Is it just me or do heavy weapons seem bit pointless
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>>315561827
No tradeoff to pirating :^)
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>>315587037
if I can't run this on max settings at 1080, ima be pissed - this game doesn't look pretty enough to justify any significant performance hits relative to FO3 or NV

my graphics card is showing its age, but it holds up well enough for most things
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>>315585718
DENIAL IS REAL
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>>315563957
Looks like shoe0nhead
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>>315585718
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>>315587105
That never worked that way in FO3/NV. Only the Lucky 8 Ball did since it worked while in the inventory and weighed nothing making it effectively a stat boost.
>>
In order of most useful stats to least for a non vats, non sneak, non melee character
>top tier
INT
>mid tier
STR
PER
END
>low tier
CHR
LCK
>level 1 tier
AGI
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>>315587423
will i even be able to meet 30 fps?
>asked a
>>
will my 750ti be able to handle it?
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So, out of the 70 perks, only 21 of them are either entirely % increases, chance based, or passive.

I didnt count any perk that was mainly passive, but granted an active or ability/skill within one of its ranks as being in the above category since that seems foolish.

Take of that what you will, not saying this system is better or worse, just for your consideration.
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>>315588093
>forgot i pressed post
asked all relatives to only give me money for xmass
i mostly need a new machine
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>>315566405

Holy shit I've never thought about my relationship with /v/ but this is exactly it. All the salt by fat NEETS just fuels the amounts of fun I have. I literally enjoyed TW3, MGSV, Bloodborne and will enjoy FO4 much more because of this. Feels good to still have some joy in life.

Also, build:


Strength 1
Perception 2
Endurance 1
Charisma 10
Intelligence 3
Agility 1
Luck 10

I'm going as Gladstone Gander finding ridiculous amounts of cash everywhere and critting enemies I should not be able to defeat.
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>>315578191
>Every play through I had to precisely calculate what my INT should be
Less than 10, more than 8. What's so difficult about this?

I would say with Skills in 3 and NV, I had to avoid getting 100s for some Skills when leveling up, in case of books and perks (e.g. Intense Training) that raised skills. Also, apparel.
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>>315588093
Call it wishful thinking, but I think the official specs (which I am nowhere near close to) are significantly bloated to make the game seem like more a graphics improvement. Listing nearly the same specs as for Skyrim would be embarrassing for Beth.
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>>315588093
Honestly I doubt it which is unfortunate. Hope you can upgrade soon buddy
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>>315588174
Idiot Savant
That move makes me want to play a 1 int character :o
I always go 10 int
>>
Str-1,Per-5,End-4,Cha-1,Int-9,Agi-1,Luc-7

I'll be a hacker/laser nerd. Code Gorilla.
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>>315588174
how does the perk system work? can you get any available perk there as long as you have enough points in each attribute.
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>>315559391
this builder is a disaster the one from vault111 was way better but seems like that site got btfo
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>>315589109
Call it negative thinking but Bethesda isn't know for optimizing their games at all so that isn't showing bloated graphics. It is showing a unoptimized game that requires that great of shit because the devs were too lazy to actually do their jobs.
>>
>>315589850
http://vault111.com/character/
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>>315589850
Actually it's up again
>>315562646
is better anyways because it has the perk chart below stat distribution
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>>315590067
That's unpleasant but plausible.
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>>315589713
Don't bother. You want to hack, make gun mods, have full heal stimpacks, salvage items for crafting materials (potentially rare ones), and potentially make energy weapon/radiation weapon mods. And those are the first 5 points (6 total) invested.

And if you go all the way you can get double damage with radiation weapons, double duration on power armor, and even take Nerd Rage if you want something to save you if you almost die.
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>>315589850
Everyone has been using the Nukahub one for basic building.
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>>315588174
Critical Banker

Oh awesome, you don't always have the press X to crit bullshit, its a spec option
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post builds.

gonna try and be a doctor that shoots cunts with a revolver.
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>>315589839
There are level requirement for subsequent ranks. All the 10 stat requirement perks each have 3 ranks requiring a random level around 25 for the second rank, and 50 for the third one.

A lower stat requirement skill might require 15-20+ for the second rank, and could require anywhere from 30-45 or whatever for the last one. There is no actual guideline, but that's the kind of jump in levels required you can expect.
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>>315590249
no you always have it, it's just a meter that fills up over time, and when you want to do one and have a full meter you "push x to crit"
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>Someone shoots me
>"OY VEY REMEMBER THE SIX MILLION"
>They and all their goy comrades explode into caps
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>>315587920
>Luck
>insta-killing everything with bloody mess and ricochet and crits outta ass
>bad
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>>315591497
I'm interested in how much luck affects the kind of rare loot you find early on.

Might do a survivalist/luck 10 run to start since both will increase my odds of finding rare dankness.
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>>315592084
yeah before I finalise a build I want to know the effect of LUCK and what heavy weapons there are. At the moment it only seems like the minigun and junkjet, doesnt really seem worth putting points into STR to get the heavy weapons perk
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>>315587795
No I know you can't use it to unlock perks.

I'm getting it for the points and benefits.
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>>315592538
gatling laser
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>>315592538
remember we've also seen missile launchers afaik and of course fatman
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>>315559391
RIP AND TEAR
>>
who
>/sneaksnipe/
here?

>be on legion run
>remember all other runs having to save kimbal
>get close enough to initiate mission
>sit back and gobi
>walk away
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>>315582147
I have the same plan. I was thinking getting the party master perk too but If alcohol is plenty-full i might switch some stats.
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>>315593063
heavy weapons were never really that practical as a main gun.
you never really got heavy weapons at the start of the game anyway.
>>315593167
those are probably counted as explosives. unless ofcourse things can count as both.
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>>315591091
Only way to play
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>>315559391
I'm thinking of going a nerdy scientist dude into energy and plasma weapons like I did in Fallout 3, and I think it would work out well with being able to be an actual engineer, setting up power plants and shit.
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>>315594304
My final Rick build after I realized yeah I want the drinking perk:
S:1 P:5 E:1 C:7 I:9 A:4 L:1

I put points into agility because fuck off I like sneaking and killing people in their sleep.
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son is main villain :^)
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S 4
P 4
E 4
C 4
I 4
A 4
L 4

Why even bother when you can just train your stats if you want better perks?
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>>315559391
>Sneak sniper.
>Stealth archer.

Is this all anyone playing fucking Bethesda games does?
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>>315596562
Rick with that much charisma. Wtf?

Should have a little more End or Perception and nowhere near that much Cha.

He's an abrasive, aggressive, jerk.
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>>315597610
>Implying intimidation doesn't require charisma.
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>>315597610
The party boy perk requires a charisma of 7.
You can't get addicted to alcohol and later levels it doubles the effects and adds 3 luck.
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>~
>player.advlevel

S - 10
P - 10
E - 10
C - 10
I - 10
A - 10
L - 10

eat a dick niggers
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>>315597825
>You can't get addicted to alcohol
but rick is addicted to alcohol
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>>315597343
>stealth archer

Requesting the 'stealth archer' picture if anyone has it.

You know the one!
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why are there so few perks?

on topic though full luck no int
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>>315598058
why ruin the game for yourself

>>315598176
yeah, int is fucking shit now
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Not sure yet. I want early points in Charisma for Lone Wanderer, so 3 atleast. 3 in STR for armor mods as you can reinforce armor in this game. INT for weapon mods and hacking and PER for lockpicking.

Endurance is a 1 for sure
Luck might be a 1 aswell even if its a really great perk.
I do want some agility because stealth is broken
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When the fuck did Reddit get here?
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>>315598219
>why ruin the game for yourself
Just kidding I won't do that on the first playthru or at least until I get bored. I'll probably do something like

S - 4
P - 6
E - 2
C - 6
I - 5
A - 4
L - 1

Maybe I'll raise the charisma by one and lower either intelligence or perception.
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>>315598128
I mean its a good point but I hated the constant fuzzy screen crap in 3+NV.
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>>315598402
>stop liking things i dont like
>even if i haven't played them yet
>im pretty sure i wont enjoy it though


>i never enjoy anything
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>>315598402
>not having fun with the buggiest game of the year
shiggity diggity doo
i sure as shit ain't paying for it, what's the harm?
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>>315559391
Does anyone know what kind of weaponry is good to invest in for an Energy Weapons setup?

Like, should I go rifleman, or commando?

Or what?
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>>315598402
you don't have to like or defend this game to want to play it and see what fun there is to be had

/piratethenmaybebuytwoyearslateronsteamsale/
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>>315598162
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energy weapons/jack of all trades. charisma for that local leader perk.
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>>315599932
Not even bad.
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>>315600353
>buying Fallout 4
>intelligence over 1
Stop kidding yourself.
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>playing fo4
i hope you didn't buy it
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does anyone know if you have to pick and choose perks when you level up, or will they automatically apply to your character once you reach the level needed?
>>
>>315600606
See
>>315586032

1 level = 1 rank.
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>>315600606
Every level you get 1 point to spend on either a Perk of your choice that you meet the requirements for or a Stat of your choice that you haven't already maxed out.
You can choose to not spend your point and pocket it until a later level so you meet the requirement for a higher rank of a perk you already put a point in.
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>>315600719
>>315600821
nice. thanks for looking out anons
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>>315583005
nigga played b4
>>
S 1
P 4
E 4
C 6
I 7
A 4
L 2

Scientist big on performance enhancers. Going to energy weapons and chem the fuck up.
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>>315559391
Probably shitload into Strength because I'm a fucking equipmnet hamster.
>>
So since the top rank perks require level 50, it can probably be assumed level 50 is the minimum they expect the player to get to before "endgame". Maybe 60.

So 60 perks total?
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Its kind of hard to think of a build when I dont know what weapons there will be and how the perks work? Where are the energy weapon perks? Some anon said you need 6 int to mod energy weapons, how are you supposed to make a decent build without knowing all these stupid rules Todd has made.
>>
The same thing I always do: punch everyone in the crotch until their heart explodes.
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So if I take no strength, I dont get access to weapon mods? the fuck system is this
>>
>>315601275
Armor mods and melee weapon mods.

Melee weapon mods only matter if you want to be melee.
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>>315601204
A conventional pistol uses pistol damage modifiers. It requires the Gun Nut perk because it's a basic type gun mod.
An energy/plasma pistol uses pistol damage modifers. It requires the Science! perk to modify because it's a high tech weapon.
A gamma pistol blows my fucking mind because it's clearly a radiation weapon, but also a pistol. It probably uses the Nuclear Physicist perk for damage, and Science! perk to modify.
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>>315601381

>melee weapon

FUCKING BULLSHIT

EVERYONE KNOWS SUPERIOR SPEED IS KEY IN MELEE COMBAT

FUCKING DISGUSTING CATERING TO THE MEATHEAD AUDIENCE
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>>315568435
>must of

Ohhh noooo
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S - 9
P - 1
E - 3
C - 1
I - 2
A - 9
L - 3

Grognak The Barbarian coming through
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This is a comfy thread. No rageposters trashing the game here. I don't know what build I'll go for probably find one here tho.
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>>315563247
Nice to see someone play the game in an earnest way. Wish more were like you, anon.
>>
I don't expect it'll matter since I sense it'll be so easy you'll actively have to try to lose. I guess a social character and enough points to pass basic skill speechchecks so I can experience everything the game has to offer the first time and won't have to play it again. I'd be way more excited for Mankind Divided honestly except my top of the line rig has ceased being able to meet minimum spec requirements four years later. Master race my ass.
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Basically I'm shooting for all the crafting perks.
>>
S P E C I A L
6 4 1 3 6 1 7

i'm calling it the techno-berzerker, all crafting perks and carry weight, with melee weapons + high crit
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>>315590089
>>315562646
seems like the stats are useless mostly because perks have level reqs so there is literally no reason to start with hi level attributes, thanks todd
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S 3
P 3
E 3
C 7
I 7
A 4
L 1

I like builds that can talk their way out of tense situations, given the option. Im hoping the game will allow me to play like a passive character that can hold his own if need be.

Like Pic related. He lost his wife and son, and is trying to find a way to survive, but doesnt believe in killing. Fits pretty well with FO4 story
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>>315559391
S1
P5
E1
C5
I5
A1
L10
Name:Todd Howard
Mission:Lie to everyone
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playable leak when?
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>>315604635
2 hours tops
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Bethesda is sending unmarked Fallout 4 boxes out to people now. Here is one of them. At some point in the video he shows off a book, does anyone know what that book is about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqx6LTKEe5w
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>>315604782
release date is the 10th, right? but a lot of people have already been playing it?

I want to pirate it and get my sneak on
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>>315604870
Yeah there have been streams going since the day before yesterday. Ive heard the crack is already in the works. Theyre not using Denuvo, so it shouldnt take too long.
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>>315559391
This character system is so fucking garbage. When you had skills, you could actually invest in what you were interested in. Each SPECIAL "tree" is full of shit you'll never use, but you're forced to dump points into it just to get the one or two perks that are actually useful.

Why does faster reloading speed require that you dump 8 points into agility? This has always been a very early perk to pick up. The Charisma tree is loaded with shit like Animal Friend and Attack Dog and Party Boy that are either minor quality of life upgrades, useless, or extremely specific, and yet they all occupy relatively high slots. Other trees have what are basically the same perk, just split up a few times so you need to drop that many more points just to get the entire effect.

It's so boring and limiting at the same time.
>>
P 4
E 4
C 4
I 4
A 4
L 4

the perks have level reqs and you can level your attributes now and you know its a bethsda game so it will have level scaling to hell and back so why you would even TRY to pretend its a real rpg is beyond me
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>>315605118
i'm the most disappointed that my melee character only needs to invest 2-4 points into strength.
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>>315604853

These aren't loot crates right? Did anyone else make any videos of these things?
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>>315574381
>>315563313
>skills
>“The previous Skill system had some confusing parts and ended up spreading your choices too thin. Some of you had questions like: “What’s better, the Charisma SPECIAL, or the Speech Skill? Why are assault rifles in Small Guns?” Additionally many Perks simply raised associated Skills. The Gun Nut Perk in Fallout 3 increased two separate Skills. In Fallout 4, the ranks of Gun Nut act as gates for modifying and crafting weapons. Sneak was a skill in Fallout 3, and you simply increased its value. In Fallout 4 Sneak becomes a Perk that not only makes you harder to detect, but wraps in previous perks like Silent Running and Light Step into its ranks. By wrapping these systems together, it keeps the emphasis on your SPECIALs and the level-up choices more rewarding.”

>Skill system = confusing

confirmed casuals ruined Fallout
>>
>>315606290
>RUINED

>Implying making a game to be more profitable and fun for everyone is a bad thing.
>>
S1 P1 E1 C10 I2 A1 L10
dunno about perks
Tommy Wiseau build
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>>315591497

Luck 10 and legendary difficulty for maximum dank loot
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>>315609236
Dont ever pick 10.
It cant go over 10, and you can upgrade your specials eventually.
Id say go 8, max.
>>
>>315605118

Agreed I was thinking the same thing when I read the perks trees... Really hard to make a character that is interesting with this crap :\
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enemies scale up to level right?
Intellect isn't as good as you'd think then, going charisma instead for RP purposes.
Convince me otherwise
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>>315609892
Nah. Do what you want.
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>>315576670
#wife
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>>315579527
same, but i am fairly certain its confirmed not, something called survival mode tho. so i have hope.
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>>315579545
no im pretty sure doc howard straight up said no
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you can't do any build in this stupid fucking game. Everything is based around you getting to level 50 and just unlocking every perk anyway. Theres no fucking point. Fuck this game and fuck you
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>>315576319
Thinking about taking something like
S 1 P 6 E 2 C 4 I 4 A 7 L 4
Lead belly for a hardcore run where you need to be eating snakes and drinking water. Could -1 P if you dislike always having to do things at night, -1 C if dogmeat actually sucks dick and want to go in solo with lone wanderer.

Luck more or less a dump stat, could put points in Charisma get Local Leader if you want to role play as big boss instead. You can put those points into endurance for marine boy so you could explore underwater easier. Or rearrange a some of the points so you can get A 9 for blitz that let you teleport for instant cqc.

I don't feel there's a need to dump more points into strength for more unarmed damage or armor mods since you will be sneaking most of the time, and ninja sneak damage will probably make your CQC instakill anyone. Unless there's some sort of armor mod that makes you amazing at sneaking.
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