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>muh 11 minutes!!!!! Meanwhile, Skyrim also takes only 1

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>muh 11 minutes!!!!!

Meanwhile, Skyrim also takes only 14 minutes to run across:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oaFf2sAS68
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>>315377572
What game are people complaining about only taking 11 minutes to travel across?
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>>315378289
FO4. It takes ~11 minutes to reach one corner of the map diagonally down to the other corner, by mostly just walking but also a bit of sprinting when there was enough stamina.

Honestly it's one of my biggest worries. Seems like FO4 is fucking tiny.
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>>315377572
No one's saying Skyrim's map was better. Both are shit.
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>>315377572
>a game from 2011 is bigger than a game from 2015
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>>315378341
Does anyone know how long it takes to do it in FO3 or FONV?
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>>315378491
You can't do that in FO3 because of all those tunnels. But it would be probably less.
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>>315378341

so and the bitcher 3 only takes 10 minutes to run across

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=71Al7BITOxo
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>>315378703
Anon, that's mounted. It's at least with twice the movement speed. Like, sure, you can argue that you spend the majority of your traveling time mounted, but it still counts.
So it's basically twice as much. Plus, the map itself looks several times larger than FO4's.
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>>315378703
>sprinting on a horse
b8
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Should have been 7 desu
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>>315378780
>>315378782
nice excuses witcher shills
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>>315378921
Try harder
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>All this bait
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>>315378921
Uh what? I've actually never played any of the Witcher games yet. They're still in my backlog.
I just took it for granted because it's fucking logical. 10 minutes on a mount that doubles your movement speed would be 20 minutes "on foot". And, again, as stated, the map itself when opened up looks vastly larger than FO4's.
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That size is still far too much for either Skyrim or Fallout. Because all of that shit is completely empty.
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>>315377572
>b.b.but skyrim!
is shit too, what's the point?
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>all these "cinematic gamer" millennials now think that this is a good test of some sort
Gee, I can't wait to see more threads and posts about this on /v/
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>>315379252
And when were you born, old timer?
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>>315377572

>it's skyrim with guns!
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11 to 14 is already 33% bigger. and that's a length, not a surface. is it's nearly double the actual area of the map.
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>>315379425
Whoop-de-doo, more empty space.
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>>315379401
>>315379494
If it was actually such a simple comparison, then FO4 would actually be secured as a great game.

FO3 was just Oblivion with guns, and it's one of the better games out there.
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>>315379401
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Since when the fuck is distance to go from 1 corner of the map a metric to prove anything?
Literally what the fuck does it prove?
You guys need to relax and stop mindlessly shitposting everything you see other /v/ users parroting. ITs worse than the bloodborne shitposting and its still a week away. ARe you guys really that fucking sad and hateful that you will sit here and shit on a game of which you know next to nothing about? I thought you guys were better than this.
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>>315379496
It's not empty, it's rich with promise. Like a blank canvas awaiting a skilled artist. /s
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>>315379562
>and it's one of the better games out there


pfffahhahaahha
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>>315379563
from lockpicking to loading screens, it's skyrim with guns

>and hitboxes
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>bethdrones in full damage control
Boys you are cute :3
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>>315379584
>I thought you guys were better than this.
First hour on the board huh? Go back to blowing todd.
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>>315379631
But that's 1:1 with how lockpicking works in FO3 and NV.
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>>315379584
>autistic dumb frog posting scum
No wonder this game has a review embargo until it's release, it's a fucking blunder.
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>>315377572
>omg open world is shit cuz it's always too big and empty of content
>omg this is shit because it's not huge and filled with nocontent
Make up your minds fags
If the area is filled with worthwhile stuff to do then it's neither too small nor too big
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Id take a smaller fully utilized map over Fo3 and NV where 75% was wasted space
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Skyrim's also shit though
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>>315378703
That's only one of the areas though.
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>>315377572
this comparison is stupid to mesure map size. A game set in a desert would take kuch less time to travel than one in a mountain, even if much bigger.
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>>315379685
except that in FO you could force locks. in skyrim you couldn't.

>guess what you can't force in FO4?
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>>315379910
OH well fuck then FALLOUT 4 IS A COPY OF SKYRIM CONFIRMED.
Kill yourself.
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>>315379910
I never forced locks in FO3 or NV because the single time I did try it it broke instead. Since manually lockpicking everything is safer and only takes a second anyway, just why?
You're just nitpicking at this point.
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>Oblivion

>Fallout 3 = Oblivion with guns

>Skyrim = Fallout 3 without guns

>Fallout 4 = Skyrim with guns

>tfw we're going to play Oblivion with guns without guns with guns
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>>315380007
no, not nitpicking. relaying facts. you're nitpicking.

fallout four IS skyrim 2 with guns.

no need to argue or get upset. you'll buy it, play it and see.

i'll pirate it and maybe play for a bit until i'm bored.
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>>315380123
Why are you here shitposting right now.
Is it because you are so assblasted that people can have fun with video games?
Why the fuck are you people so mad?
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>>315380187
shitposting?

don't get mad at me the fucking thing is poop.

http://a.uguu.se/mmzewz.mp4

http://a.uguu.se/gkbegh.mp4

http://a.uguu.se/ziwjxh.mp4

http://a.uguu.se/nusimz.webm

seven years.
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>>315380187
>Is it because you are so assblasted that people can have fun with video games?
Settle down, marketer.
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>>315380187
Calm down, anon.
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>>315377572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkXS6-4QOSM
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Just ran through NV, bottom left to top right, 16 minutes without any kind of sprinting and a pretty low movespeed in general.
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Who gives a shit how long it takes to rush from one side of a map to another?
I hate the fucking game and will never get it, but it's the content within those 11 minutes of map that makes the game good or shit.
Turn every map in your favorite game to a long stretch of land and time how long it takes you to run straight through it, then come back and cry that it's different
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>>315377572
And Skyrim was shit as well. What's your point?
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http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/11/03/fallout-4-development-began-by-porting-the-elder-scrolls-skyrim-to-xbox-one.aspx

PORT
R
O
T
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>>315378837

Wesker was to pure for that game's story.
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>>315380545
I am pretty sure fallout 3 used oblivion as a template.

It is going to be shit because it is a bethesda game not because they used another game as a template.
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I don't understand what it tries prove. Walking from one end to the other in a straight line of a game doesn't take long, but if you'd have to walk to every area in the game it'd take significantly longer.
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>>315380737
It's gonna be shit because they used another Bethesda game as a template.
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>>315380814
Well that isn't helping but don't people like Fallout NV?
That used a bethesda game as a template.
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>>315380860
The Bethesda game parts of it were still shit and definitely kept the Obsidian parts of it from shining.
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Skyrim was shit too.
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>>315381030
fallout 3 and oblivion too.
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RDR had a great map, and it took 11min(mounted) to go from the west all the way to the east

What's Bethesda's excuse?
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>>315381145
>rdr had a great map
No it didnt.
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>>315381214
There were roads, settlements, herbs to collect, animals to hunt, horses to track, and randomized events everywhere, it made great use of the map space
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>>315377572
Does anyone have a link to the fallout video since it's been taken down?
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>>315378341
seems like the perfect amount of space to have lots of content packed into it. Have a giant map like Just cause and it's miles of nothing. Who gives a fuck
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>>315381270
I used to play this at my friends, and we discovered a glitch where you could spawn infinite bears by abusing area loading. We'd have a horde of 30+bears trying to eat our faces, and the whole process was pretty tense because you could be mauled at any second
Good times
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What about the tunnels? Does F4 have tunnels?
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>>315381276
http://a.uguu.se/nusimz.webm
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I remember /v/ going mad over Dishonoured only being 4 hours long, and that turned out to be one of the best games of the last few years. It's almost like rushing through stuff doesn't tell you how fun a game actually is to play.
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>>315381506
Considering the insane amount of awful design choices shown so far, tunnels are a fucking given.
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>>315381539
Thanks
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>>315378341
Don't worry senpai there will be 10 DLC packs to widen that map
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I'm expecting Fallout 4 to have a lot of interiors.
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Oh look
It's the same contrary group of people who shit on every new release to get epic /v/ cred so they can brag to their ERP friends on steam.

Wow. Shitting all over a game at the first sight of bad sure doesn't happen to every game ever on this site.

Wonder how long it will take you faggots to catch on these lonely fuckers only try to entice you into replying so they can get that sweet sweet endorphin rush when they see a ! next to their tab and a red highlighted post.
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>>315379584

It proves that all you have to do is say how small the map is as bait to get a bunch of people memeposting.
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>>315381804
What is it about liking anime that makes people such boring and stupid shitposters?
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>>315381897
I dont know man. You would know tho.
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>>315381804
That's why you just make retarded sounding posts about how much you're going to love it, then chuckle when they post a bunch of caps lock shit.
Telling them they shouldn't play it because it's obviously not a genre they are interested in works also.
>Why do you guys even complain about this, it's clear you don't like open world RPGs, ect, etc
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>>315381897
When your only contact with any sort of media are kiddie Japanese cartoons you start fancying yourself interesting and cultured when you're anything but.
being a weeb is like a Japanese guy coming to America, watching The Price Is Right on TV and then returning to tell all his friends how much of a fucking pleb they all are for not watching TPIR.
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>>315382153
>look mom i posted it again!
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>>315382304
he's right and yuo just proves him even righter every time, shit eater.
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>>315382304
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>fallout nv 14 minutes
>80 percent you cross is desert

that shit isnt saying annything
its not about how big a map is, it is made so it fits the game so i wouldnt worry to much about it.
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>>315382392
>>315382462
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>>315382506
>we say FO4 is shit
>you get butthurt because we're not slurping up Todd's cum

>>>/reddit/
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>>315382594
Im not regurgitating other posters vomit though kiddo.
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>>315377572
Skyrim's landscape looks better.
Also, in normal play you'd be going around that mountain in beginning, which adds sense of depth to the world.
On the other hand, in Fallout 4 video, the dude just runs straight for most of it, just coming across few hills.
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>>315380187
>he used the "u mad cuz people have fun" excuse
this is truly pathetic, you people have nothing else to say other than that
the facts that the game features were stripped and that it keeps happening wherever you look are right here in thread
so tell me , why don't you look at them and tell me why is this allowed? Why did they do it?Why couldn't they just take fo3/nv and improve it? Why are you allowing them to do it?
no, your "I'll still have fun" meme argument doesn't work, you might as well not even reply

so far from what I've seen, the only "improvement" seems to be the weapon modifications shown at E3, IF that will even be as good as it was shown
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>>315384453
I dont really give a fuck that they stripped the skills system. It was bloated and convoluted anyways. Often leading to extreme imbalance like in nvs case. However i will cede that voiced protag and dialogue wheel are fucking stupid. But what really pisses me off is that they added hit markers grenade markers and gun melee. Thats pretty much telling me that they are just trying to make the game as simple and mainstream as possible. Ill still play it and probably have fun though. That isnt enough to make me shitpost about fallout 4 for the rest of my life. But what am i gonna do to stop them from doing this bullshit? There is virtually nothing we can do. And until the game is legit not fun you guys just seem like buttblasted crybaby bitches to me.
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>>315379816
Skellige is like 60% water and the biggest island has fuckhueg mountains all over it.
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>>315384673
>I'll just accept it and eat shit and eventually like it I guess
ok then
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>>315378341
If it's anywhere near the same size as Morrowind it'll be fine if they put interesting shit in the map. Cyrodil felt tiny as shit in Oblivion but it was a lot bigger than Skyrim.
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>>315384940
So you just call it shit then? Even though its not even out?
>ive seen 3 4 minute long webms!
Are you gonna kill the vp of zenimax studios or what? How are you gonna fix the games?
>Day one pirate! hurr durrr
Meanwhile 10 million preorders are coming in. Good job.
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>>315378491
The FO3 speed run is like half an hour iirc.
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>>315385109
Anon.... it doesnt take 11 minutes to speed run fallout 4. It takes 11 minutes to run from a side of the map to the other. Thats not a speed run.
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>>315384772
So, FO4's map is like Skellige's main island without the mountain?
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>>315381804
>It's the same contrary group of people

How do you know? It's anonymous. Are you tracking and monitoring IPs? Or is everyone who disagrees with you just considered to be "the same people" so it can help your whiny argument?
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>>315385213
Oh, I just assumed everyone was talking about the end of the game. woops
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>>315378341
Did you even see the bottom right quadrant? It's 3/4 water, and some of that extends into the upper right quadrant.
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>>315379631
The HUD is skyrim's hud too. It explains why AP changed uses.

BETHESDA JUST PORTED SKYRIM AND SKINNED FALLOUT OVER IT
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>>315385604
holy shit you're right
>ap is used for sprint
>oblivion had no sprint
>fo3/nv have no sprint
>skyrim has sprint

welp it's clear
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>literally have an Australian and a Spaniard shitposting about this fucking stupid shit at me in steam

I HATE YOU ALL.
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>>315377572
>time to cross map diagonally
>hiding worst texturure of the game
>number of hidden nigger jokes
>how many times you can jump on one leg without dying in game
>ability to shit yourself on command
>built-in flash player
That's the defining features of a good game.
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senpai = f a m
desu = t b h
baka = s m h
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>>315385304
>how do you know
They use trips most of the time. There is an IRC channel dedicated to shitposting and black viral too.

I used to be one of them.
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>>315380302
First and third videos were taken down. Todd's striking all leaks.
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>>315386337
baka desu senpai kek
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>>315386584
no, they are only temp hosted. turd took nada down.

24 hour temp host. maybe someone will re-up
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>>315386637
kek sjw lel
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>>315386337
>desu = desu
Testing

Also this makes me kinda sad.
I actually used that acronym for, idk,5, 6 years now.

Guess I'll just start using
"well to be honest" again.
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>>315386337
c u c k = kek
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>>315386337
>can't say f/-\m anymore
It hurts
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>>315386774
Just say 2bh or tbqh or Tbh
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>>315377572

>Skyrim is a 5gb 2011 game developed with ps3 and 360 in mind
>fallout 4 is a 20+gb 2015 game released on modern consoles
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>>315379584
>a game of which you know next to nothing about?
>next to nothing
You mean aside from all the previews and other videos released and the fact that it's made by a company that has a long history of churning out utter shit?
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does the season pass include paid mods too?
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>>315378703
>on horse
>sprinting
>infinite horse stamina on roads, the thing explicitly added to quicken long roads
>map is about half of entire game area

In FO4
>on foot
>sprinting with pauses for wheezing

At least post a on-foot run through with half the time walked and half ran.
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>>315387257
ale nie forsuj już tego gównianego obrazka cwelersie
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>>315377572

yeah and?

can people really not realize that Skyrim's world is small?

it only feels as big as it does because you're walking across it at less than 1mph
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>>315389531
How big the game feels is what matters, scale is more important than actual size.

A huge as fuck map in a game where you drive everywhere will feel smaller than a smaller map where you can't drive.
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I liked Skyrim desu senpai
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>>315390669
How dare you!
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>11 minutes to go across the map
BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY MAP IS FUCKING TINY

>30 minutes to go across the map
BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY LOOK AT ALL THIS EMPTY SPACE

Fuck off, idiots
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assuming no cheat codes, it takes ~10 minutes for San Andreas, the difference being there was LOADS of shit to do in that space, and that space was incredibly varied.

honestly I think San Andreas was the last game to do open world right.
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Why do people even care about the time it takes to run across the map? Most of this genre of games are devoid of interesting fucking content any way, complain about that instead. I'd rather have a map that takes 10 minutes to get across that was full of life, interesting areas, interaction between areas, etc. instead of another fucking Skyrim or Fallout.

For the record, I'm not defending Fallout, the series is overhyped trash.
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>>315389151
bóldupiący pisior wykryty
różaniec z tajemnicami smoleńskimi już odmówiony?
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>>315378341
that's a meaningless statistic though, if you don't mention walking and running speed.
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>>315377572

>16MIN TO RUN ACROSS THE WITCHER'S 3 MAP
>GOAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgQ8sFkgyN8
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>>315377572
>"It only takes 11 minutes to walk from one corner to another in fallout 4."
It's the walk part that gets me mad. Fucker fucking dashed through the entire map. There is walk, jogging and dash (dash needs action points.) it's same as running skyrim from corner to corner and use horse.
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>>315377572
Sauce?
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I'll still buy it and have fun and log hundreds of hours while you virgins cry and shitpost
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You could travel britania from one way to the other side of the map in about minutes too and Ultima VII was great.
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>>315393236
Does the witcher 3 only have one map?
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>>315377572
Todd said FO4 was even bigger than Skyrim. He wouldn't lie to me, would he?
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>>315391107
Wow it's almost as if devs should put stuff in the map.
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