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>She's in love with the legend. I was the same way once.

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>She's in love with the legend. I was the same way once.

What did he mean by this?
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>>315351892
He has a crush on this cutie.
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>>315351892
Nothing because he's hypnotised
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>There's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver bullet into a well-greased chamber.

What did he mean by this? Guys, I'm really confused.
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>>315351892
mgs3 i guess, when he becomes fascinated with snake. i know he's supposed to be ADAM, but he really has this weird obsession with him
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>>315351892
SUCH A LUST
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WHAT A THRILL
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>>315351892
he gay
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I never understood how men can be gay.

I mean, how can you not like boobs?
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>>315352591
>He's a boob guy
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>>315352638
>people like putting their dick in the same hole that shit comes out of
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>>315352591
>not wanting to get fucked up the butt by Snake

Get a load of this shitlord.
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>>315352731
>not wanting to fuck the literal shit out of someone

come on dude
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>>315352234
He likes to lock and load his "Revolver Ocelot"
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>>315352591
Having another dude's sweaty balls all up in your face after the muthafucka was crawling through a desert all day.
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>>315352059
Big Boss is cute! CUTE!
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>>315352731
Yeah buddy, because girls shit out their cunts all the time
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>>315352871
I want to revolve his ocelot and get Bosses genetic legacy all over me...if you know what I mean.
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>>315351892
He is homosexual.
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>>315352591
Big Boss has pretty nice boobs.
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>>315353061
Do you think he refers to his massive penis as an Anaconda and that's how he got the codename Snake?
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>>315352059
Why didn't Big Boss age a single day since the coma?
Why was he still in hardy condition when Venom was all withered away despite them both having undergone exercise?
Why did Big Boss wake up like he simply took a good nap with no drastic change to his mental faculties?
How come I look at this guy and don't love him like I used to?
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>>315353201
>How come I look at this guy and don't love him like I used to?
because we weren't playing as the man himself.

it hurts.
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>>315353201
Do you think Ocelot pulled a Shinji?
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>>315353201
Because he used us. We were pawns in his game, and we had no say in the matter.
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>>315353304
>that blood quality
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>>315353365
but that doesn't matter because you're big boss didurikeit :^)
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>>315351892
Why would someone mod a silly coat on Geralt?
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>>315353365
That's not true. He cares about his men. He cares about Kaz, his dog, and maybe his one good son.

He has to care, or else Ocelot died in vain for the love of a man who died a long time.
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>>315353505
I literally had a dream last night that I met Kojima. He was really nice, but he was really sad about how MGSV turned out.
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>>315352731
>straight guys like to put their willies in the same hole that babies come out of
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>>315352591
>literally cannot comprehend other people having different taste from you

so this...is autism
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>>315353663
>he was really sad about how MGSV turned out.
so was everyone else bro
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>>315353365
Not really, it was all Zero (who dindu nuffin)'s plan and by the time BB woke up it was too late to do anything
So he just fucked off out of the game
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>>315353201
>Why was he still in hardy condition when Venom was all withered away despite them both having undergone exercise?
I think he woke up way before Venom.
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>>315353570
He used us, anon. He stole our identities, had us live a lie. He made us die for him. Made us take the fall.

We're not the demon, anon.

Big Boss is.
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>>315352591
It's a mental dysfunction tho.
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>>315353865
PLAYED LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE.
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>>315354018
Are you saying that a Russian guy who dresses up like a cowboy and twirls guns and tortures people for a living has a mental dysfunction?
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>>315353865
he seems very respectful and gracious to Venom for all he did and admits Big Boss is just some name that can tossed around willy nilly
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>>315354164
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>>315353785
except me, i believe its incredible
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>>315352956
Cute!
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>>315353865
except you're fucking wrong and big boss actually did nothing wrong (as much as it pains me to say it because i wanted a game where big boss "dindu nuffin"). its ZERO AND OCELOT who ordered the change on venom's face. they set up venom to take the limelight off of venom to keep big boss safe. while venom's out and building diamond dogs big boss has got nothing better to do so he goes and makes zanzibarland. venom didn't take the fall for anyone, big boss considered him an equal in fact.
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>>315352956
Is that a mod or does the costume DLC actually remove the horn?
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What ever happened with the Golden Arm and Sniper Wolf costume? Did they get patched back in or what?
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>>315351892
he is gay for big boss

everyone is regardless of what theyre usually into

search you balls you know it to be true
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>>315352234
look at his face in that particular shot he is so enjoying being so close to sempai lol
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>>315353365
In all fairness, neither did he. Not at first at least.
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>>315354582
i respect your astonishingly low standards for "incredible" games.
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>>315352591

>the magnitude of gayness is measured by how much you like boobs
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I'm just saying that if women do not attract you, there is something wrong with your brain.
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MG1 Snake > MGS1 Snake > all other snakes
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>>315356518
What if you like women with penises?
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>>315356754
depends, you like it for the breasts or the dick?
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>>315356518
I'm attracted to women

Just not Quiet
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>>315356518
i do like women but man quiet looks fucking awful.
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>You will never have a friend who's so gay for you that he triple crosses everyone ever, gets in deep with a secret group controlling the world, clones you several times, tries to kill these clones to make them more like you and then take over a world controlling AI supercomputer system and then finally die fighting your son
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>>315354582
It's kind of a good open world stealth game but as the ultimate conclusion to the metal gear solid saga? it's shit
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>>315356754
That's gay. You can't make a baby with a transexual.
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>>315356896
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>>315356518
if quiet attracts you there's definitely something wrong with your brain. as autistic as venom perhaps?
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>>315355874
spoiler equals opinion? ok cool man

>>315356941
>ultimate conclusion
you mean 4?
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>>315352731
and what exactly comes out of a vagina that's so pleasant?
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>>315351892
>Boss that puppy you brought back will start to miss you if you're gone too long, come visit him sometimes.
>No option to do so

>Train with me boss!
>The "training" is me throwing their ass around and they don't put forth any effort to fight back

>Everyone's Mother Base will be unique :^)
>They're all the fucking same

>Boss! The Battle Gear is complete!
>4 Dispatch missions ayy

>Take silly selfies with enemies in MGO :^)
>Fucking nowhere

>Men become demons grrrr
>Rescue a puppy, a mob of children, Quiet, Huey, and a shit ton of prisoners and targets

I mean I had some fun but damn.
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>>315356941
>ultimate conclusion to the metal gear solid saga

MGS4 was the ultimate conclusion you idiot. V only served to connect the prequels to the first game. It served as the ultimate conclusion to the Big Boss saga. A disappointing nonsensical shitfest ends with a disappointing nonsensical shitfest.
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>>315352743
>that horn
Someone's been a nuahgyt boy
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>>315356850
>>315356861
>>315357867
Closeted cakeboys detected.
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>>315353505
NO I DIDN'TRIKEIT
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>>315356832
I like the unity it brings between her and myself.
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>>315353201

Because you realized Big Boss is a worthless coward who couldn't give less of a fuck about his comrades. He wakes up knowing full well who destroyed Mother Base, who killed his comrades, who stole 9 years of his life. And what does he do? Run and hide. Big Boss is garbage.

Pick related is a man worthy of respect.
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>>315358126
Miracles.
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being in love with a man doesn't mean gay, you faggots
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>>315358513
quiet only looks good in concept art. that dutch horse ruined the look.
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>>315358848
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>>315351892
Fuck off.
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>>315358916
>implying you wouldn't slay that horse pussy if you had the chance
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>>315351892
I actually don't think Quiet was in love with Big Boss himself, I honestly think she knew from her attack that he wasn't the real thing since the fucking Prologue.
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>>315359038
You can love someone and still find them physically repulsive.
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>>315359142
>>/mlp/
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>>315352591
Ocelot isnt gay tho.

He is in love with the legend, not the person.

Most of us want to be a badass like Big Boss. By playing the games and praising how cool Big Boss is we are in love with the legend aswell.

Ocelot got his ass beaten by him in MGS3 and was a big fanboy of him ever since.

>tfw Big Boss will never tell you that you are pretty good
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>>315359142
Back to >>>/mlp/ with you.
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>>315358916
I think your bizarre fixation on horses says more about you than anyone else here buddy.
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Joosten Quiet looks fine. You are seriously either gay or just 2D sexual.
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>>315353835
It's mentioned directly in the damn tapes that Big Boss woke up LONG before Venom did, it's why he's bulkier and more fit for duty than Venom though I kind of wish after the digoxin kicked in it was mostly Venom doing the heavy lifting for the whole escape.
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>>315359605
nah bro im fixated on how cute big boss is
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>>315359812
Not *much* longer, if at all really. When he wakes up they tell him they won't have enough time to get Venom up to full strength so he'll have to get him out of the hospital. And Venom is semi-awake for a few weeks anyways before XOF shows up, what do you think that montage of him freaking out was?
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>>315354591
The cutest!
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>>315359808
She's fucking freakish compared to Stefanie. But I guess copying perfection is impossible anyway.
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>>315360080
Big Boss was lounging around smoking a cigar by Ocelot and BB complaining that this is the only thing he has to whittle away the time. Remember he was in a coma just as long, but he had more muscle mass than Venom? That means he woke up at least a month before him. And the freaking out was only a week from what I remember because the whole plastic surgery happens 5 days after his second freak out while he's still drugged up.
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>>315360183
I like how she has a perpetual "seriously?" expression
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>>315360183
who the hell invited /mgg/
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>>315360290
I thought they did the plastic surgery 2 years into Venom's coma. Did I hear it wrong? I'm not sure.

>>315360137
He's pretty cute.
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>>315360443
>this fuckin newcuk doesn't know /v/ loved the Joost long before /mgg/ accepted her, and in fact they were resistant at first
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>>315356705
I still can't get over this drawing looking like Todd Howard

Solid Todd, sneaking into people's houses to take their credit card and preorder Fallout 4 for them
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>>315351892
Means he wants dinkie
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>>315360484
They mention during Venom going in and out after his phantom limb freak out, which I think the date thing said 5 days and right after being told he's in no condition for surgery, and then told people are out to kill him he blacks out again which leads into Quiet killing most of the hospital staff in the room.
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Who was Big Boss hiding from when he left on the motorcycle?
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>>315352591
>He's a boob man
I remember when I was 14
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>>315360768
Cipher. By the time the attack happens, Zero is on life support due to the parasites and Cipher is now functioning on auto-pilot to attain The Boss' Will hence why around that time SIGINT made the Patriot AIs to do all the heavy lifting for their logistics and plans.
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>>315360818
My brother.
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>>315352591
>He doesn't like DFC
Get a load of this homofag.
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>>315360957
So is SIGINT (or someone else) deliberately maintaining the AI to keep Cipher going?
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>>315360567
i shouldn't have forgotten that most of /v/ was underaged horny teenagers with no semblance of taste.
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>>315360768
"Baws, the whole warld want you daard"
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>>315361282
>He thinks /v/ fell in love with Joost out of simply being horny

My god are you from Reddit or are you really this horrifically ignorant of something that happened just over a month ago?
I'd love to see you explain the origins of other events here like Akagi or Press X to Jason.
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>>315361239
The main villian of Phantom Pain is actually a token black guy from MGS3

bravo kojimmy
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>>315360567
>>315360183
Why is cripplechan so broken /joost/?

Fuck that site. Can't get a single post in
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>>315359397
He's not gay, he just wants the legend's penis in his ass.
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>>315361487
What do you expect from a massive failed experiment done in defiance of 4chan?
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>>315361239
Yes. Signit was the one who did all the bad shit. He's the true villian of the series.
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>>315356518
Being attracted to women is fine, but only literal homos are attracted to Quiet.
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>>315361239
Pretty much everyone agrees with how Zero was trying to attain The Boss' Will so they basically kept doing whatever they could to help the organization that was designed and built to unify the world under a single order. Until everyone "finds out" that Cipher grew out of Zero's hands and started acting completely off the wall such as allowing XOF to actually destroy MSF and sink ZEKE to the bottom of the ocean, and continue to attack and assault the world.
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>>315352591
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>Not being straight
>Not making children for your country and race
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>>315361487
the site is owned by a scam artist and its primary admin and previous owner is a coke-addicted cripple midget who spends his life getting high and sucking flip ladyboy dick

it's pretty hilarious
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>>315361807
>countries
Fuck off Patriot stooge
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>>315361765
A woman can't be pretty without a nice pair of boobs, though.
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>>315362060
I actually prefer DFC.
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I wonder why Ocelot's love for Big Boss feels so genuine to me. Because we don't actually have any fucking details about their friendship.

"After I spared this kid he shot my eye out. Love him though."

How the fuck does that work. But it does. There was some stupid respect that passed between these two idiots.
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>>315353201
It's like this, family.
Big boss wasn't actually jesus, he was a very flawed man with a lot of problems, but that was his identity and not his legend.
Venom is a better big boss because he is living his life how he thought big boss was with no idea how actually bitch made he was
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>>315362495
And you're sure you aren't gay?

Have you actually had a real gf before?
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>>315362603
Big Boss took that bullet himself.
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>>315362603
Because Ocelot always wanted to be a cowboy and Big Boss set him on the path to his dream. Retarded, but you can see that Ocelot looked up to Big Boss because of his attitude during Operation Snake Eater and even during Peace Walker.
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>>315362731
Too bad Quiet's boobs genuinely look like silicone.
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>>315362864
>tfw I wanna be a cowboy but due to the time we live in my dream will never be fulfilled
One day il meet my big boss....
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>>315362731
I'm not gay, liking traps is not gay.
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>>315359328
She was in love with Venom. it didn't matter if it was really big boss or not. in fact, he might as well have been. Venom has his memories, his face, his body, his men and his name. in every way that matters he is for all intents and purposes Big Boss. Who he was before died on that chopper, He gets a second chance at life and a chance to be the man he looked up to and idolized, even if he knows he's not the real thing, he's more than earned it, Hell, Venom did as much to create Big Boss' Legend as the man did himself
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>>315363172
if it has a penis, it's gay
if it has a penis and vagina, then it's a freak
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>>315363447
Venom is also the original Big Boss.
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>>315362864
It's just weird that their relationship from our viewpoint comes from absolutely no personal interactions. Yes, Snake Eater was something but so far we've never seen them do anything that wasn't a danger fueled adrenaline rush. Yes, they formed the Patriots. But it just blows the mind that you just call up your crazy Russian buddy, and the crazy team that was involved with the mission that involved killing your mentor, and you take the actual billions of dollars stolen by the Russian to bring a dream to life.

How the fuck does that happen.

I just want a picture of the team sitting in some cluttered board room eating Chinese take-out. Something that makes it look like they actually did some administrative work instead of magic-ing what is essentially a multi-national corporation from two soldiers, a communications expert, a doctor, and an quartermaster.
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>>315363447
>died on that chopper
Technically that life lived on when Big Boss had to go incognito and Venom was taking the heat and focus off him to make Zanzibarland. And I refuse to believe that Big Boss made Outer Heaven himself and just handed it over to Venom to run.
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>>315351892

He joined DD to fuck Snake.
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>>315362603
Keep in mind that Big Boss is forgiving to a fault. He forgives Kaz for attempting to kill him, same with Ocelot accidentally blinding him in one eye. His armies are basically full of enemy soldiers who would've killed him without mercy before, and now he takes them in and teaches all of them. This compassion is partially why many characters in MGS cherish him.
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>>315360957
But that's wrong retard. Zero is perfectly fine before and after the attack. He's the one who orchestrated the whole coverup to keep Big Boss in hiding. It's only after he confronts Skullface about the attack that he gets stuck with the parasite pin. Big Boss is hiding from Skullfaces rogue XOF squad and the rest of the world who didn't like the fact that he had built an army and became a nuclear power who answered to nobody.
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>>315362603
>he shot my eye out

That incident was Big Boss fault entirely. And he didn't shoot the eye out, it's still there.
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>>315366151
No shit dumbass, XOF went off the rails and beyond his control until he gets "attacked" later while in his NYC safehouse after seeing Big Boss while in his coma. Zero was never attacked by fucking Skullface until AFTER MSF was destroyed. The attack I was talking about was the assault on the hospital do try to keep up.
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>>315366482
>The attack I was talking about was the assault on the hospital

And yet you said he was hiding from Cipher which isn't the case at all you fucking idiot. The rogue squad Skullface took command of was not operating under Cipher or the A.I. You're wrong no matter how you try to slice it and no amount of backpedaling can change that.
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>>315366779
Cipher was still funding XOF somehow, or do you magically think XOF had infinite funds and access to all that info just for shits and giggles? You do realize that Cipher is NOT only Zero right? And that the end goal of Cipher is to unify the world as per The Boss' Will.
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>>315351892
He's gay for Big Boss.

He used to be in love with the "legend" but now he's just in love with the man.
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>>315360597
Holy shit I fucking lost it. Youre a funny guy anon.
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Why dont I enjoy discussing metal gear with /v/ nowadays? It used to be one of the few things that kept me here. Now everything feels stale.
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>>315367325
Welcome to post Bloodborne /v/
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>>315367325
what is there left to discuss
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>>315366861
Skullface commandeered the XOF task force which was funded and equipped by Cipher, but his actions were his own, hence the whole going rogue thing. He took the troops and gear and started working on his own agenda, unbeknownst to anybody involved with Cipher. Even the troops themselves thought they were carrying out Ciphers will, but they weren't. It was all Skullface alone. This is clearly explained in the truth tapes.
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>People dont like venom's scars

Why the fuck not? Its like proof on his face of what hes gone through. Not to mention the fact that he has pieces of his comrades inside his body. When you look at a man like that, his body just tells you everything.
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>>315352591
space dandy please leave
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>>315352591
almost everyone likes boobs, gay men, straight women
having sex is a different matter entirely
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>>315367726
that's one of the reasons why I like Venom the most. he's old, depressed, miserable, in shitloads of constant pain, and every time he smiles a little is like manna from heaven. he's a worn out human being and it's great.
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>>315352591
Because men are just better.
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>>315353671
Guess who puts the baby in there.
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>>315352591
Everyone is shitting on you but I totally know what you mean. Girls are fucking neat.
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>>315359397
Id rather be solid snake though. Hes so cool.
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Let me clarify all of those for you folks.

>Between MGS3 and 1970 Ocelot trained under Big Boss, he learned CQC, wilderness survival skills etc, this happened while Ocelot was working for the CIA and Big Boss took a break from commanding FOXHOUND with Zero. During this time Ocelot and Big Boss find out about Ocelot's birth, and some sort of relationship goes on between them that Big Boss quickly ends. It started because Big Boss felt bad. Ocelot is beginning to see Big Boss is not like the man he met anymore.
>In 1970, they got the legacy back together (Portable OPS is as close to non-canon as possible now), Ocelot did most of the work. Big Boss gave the legacy to Zero
>The Patriots, Big Boss gives it another go with EVA and breaks up with her too. Big Boss now realizes no type of relationship interests him at all. LET happens and Big Boss and Zero go their separate ways. Ocelot tells Big Boss MSF is a bad idea, he goes through with it anyway. Ocelot is near to disgusted with him now.
>1975 Big Boss goes into his coma. Ocelot watches over him for 9 years, EVA goes to try and find David, Eli is with Zero and eventually escapes. Ocelot still loves Big Boss, EVA does too, but they realize now he'll never change. They work together from then on.
>1986-1987 Ocelot leaves DD and becomes a roaming mercenary of sorts due to the fall of the Soviet Union, he's really working for Big Boss, Ocelot kept a portion of the legacy and gives it to Big Boss to fund the Mercenary War and create the foundation for Zanzibar Land's split from the USSR
>Venom goes on to create Outer Heaven which becomes Big Boss's diversion

At this point, the man Ocelot knew is dead he needs Big Boss to play his role to stop Zero and create a power on the level of Cipher. Ocelot was in love with the legend once. Those days are long gone.
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I feel like the intense admiration Ocelot felt for BB gradually (or, not so gradually) developed into a crush. after all, BB was a pretty charasmatic guy when he wasn't being an autist about guns, or doing silly shit in general. he was also insanely badass. Ocelot clearly wanted to emulate him. at some point he turned it into his own weird cowboy thing. but honestly, who cares. they're pretty cute.
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>>315368478
Where did you get any of this?
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>>315369512
It's his fanfic.
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>>315369624
worst meme

>>315369512
Where? It's in the game. In the novel.
It's the parts that aren't flat out told to you and you have to deduce yourself.
But it's not that hard though. Because it isn't specific there are some parts that can only be speculated on, but what I wrote is 90% probable.
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>>315370062
so basically it's just fanfic
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>>315370221
>fanfic

Everything Kojima writes is fanfic right?
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>>315370062
>but what I wrote is 90% probable

Dude, just admit >>315370221 is right. Write your fanfic but don't act like it's canon
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>>315370519
Nope, but what you just wrote is fanfic.
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>>315352234
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>>315371049
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>>315370687
>>315370653

>fanfic

Sorry pal, what I wrote is what happened, sorry your too oblivious to put it together yourself. I did you idiots a service honestly.

Let's do a test.

Please explain how Ocelot obtained his new skill set demonstrated in MGSV.

Let's see what explanation you give, and if it's wrong, I'll post a source showing it is.
Don't worry, idiocy can be worked out together!
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>>315371117
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>>315371214
I have a boner
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>>315371124
>Sorry pal, what I wrote is what happened

Nope.
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>>315371124
novel is cannon nar nar nar
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>>315371214
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>>315371320
>>315371294

Man you guys don't even want to take my test?

Come on you're making it too easy.
Just admit I did the research, I'm right, and walk away.

If you'd like to look into the canon and work up a more detailed explanation for all the plot holes, I'd love to chat and help fill them in with you. Though I've done most of it already.
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>>315371124
>What I wrote happened, it really did!
>They never said it, but there were clues!
>No real source to information
>No reason why we should believe you
>Burden of proof is on us to prove you wrong

That's not how it works dumbass.
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>>315371446
There's nothing wrong with writing fanfic anon. Just don't act lik it's canon.
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>>315353156
>YOUR PENIS SNAKE?
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>>315371385
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>>315352731
>Blood comes out of a vagina for X days out of the month
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>>315371117
>>315371214
>>315371385

Kek, Ocelot wishes
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>>315371475
Oi, you really want me to site every single thing? The thread would be dead before I posted all of it.

How about you ask me which part you want me to prove and I'll write it out. That's a lot faster than doing the whole thing.
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so regardless of the implication, shouldn't otacon be under self-hypnosis and not have any bad feelings? or is he just talking about when he was a kid in MGS3
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>>315371517

Anon, how many times are you going to write the word fanfic until it makes you feel better?
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>>315371561
>Oi, you really want me to site every single thing?

Go ahead
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>>315371124
It can't be true because EVA and Ocelot were never disgusted by BB (except like, eating raw animals, I guess). They were both desperately in love him with him until they died.
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>>315371780
Anon, I said pick one part, any random part of what I said.

If I went and posted every video and took screen caps of all the conversations inside the tapes I wouldn't be back for another hour and this thread would be dead.

I'm honestly saying, pick one random part of what I wrote, anything at all, and I will go get the screen caps, post and links and prove my point. But I won't waste an hour on the whole thing. I don't need to validate myself, I already know that's as accurate as it can be.


See, this post >>315371897 is legitimating asking me to explain a part of what I wrote. Do what he did.

And I'll respond to it in the next post
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>>315372003
>and this thread would be dead

No it won't. It's already been an hour since you posted your fanfic, surely you can spend another to give sources.
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>>315371538
Almost every part of the world eats bird menstruation, it can't be any worse than that.
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>>315370062
which novel covers this? Is it from the new novels which are written by kojima under a pen name?
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>>315351892
How did no one find it suspicious that big boss was both the leader of foxhound and ruler of two different military nations?
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>>315372602
They didn't know. Big Boss being the leader of Outer Heaven was a secret up until Schneider and Solid Snake found out at the end of MG1.
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>>315372449
The what now
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>>315371897

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD7915opVB0

EVA's message to Snake. The entire point of this message was to push Snake onto a different path.
EVA sent this tape because of Snake's activity in Nicaragua. We can deduce that the "little bird" EVA mentions in the tape is most likely Ocelot due to him being the constant wealth of information for The Patriots, and later Big Boss in MGSV.

Both Ocelot and EVA are very careful with their words when trying to convince Big Boss of something.

Ocelot's prime of example of this himself is the LET tape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-IRijRCbUQ

In Ocelot's case he is trying to carefully convince BB to show some compassion to the children.
"You only see them as cells in a tube?" and that drop of "Is he dead?" and Ocelot's "probably" in hopes that would cause Big Boss to react and start a search for Eli. But it didn't.

EVA hoped that knowing what happened to The Boss would change Big Boss's mind. She even says, nervously, "I'm not trying to second guess you." It's easy to tell her entire motive of sending the tape was second guessing his actions.

Big Boss sending MSF into flames was the final straw. EVA was right and Big Boss shunned the children she loved. She laments this in MGS4 during the church scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfAHlnnOvSU

Ocelot cared for the children too, and by extension the children. At this point Ocelot knows about The Boss considering his involvement with EVA's tape. A child changed The Boss, would it change her pupil too? Very likely. Except it brought out the worst in him.

And finally, are they disgusted with his actions? Mostly, it's not hate, they still love him, its knowing nothing can be done to stop him now. He's on a war path, and what better way to use that than to create a power to rival Cipher. Listen to the report to Big Boss tapes and that's more than clear:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTc2i6n-nr8

The tone in the tapes changes drastically here.
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>>315371897
Another part I need to mention is, and I ran out of space, is EVA and Ocelot are Big Boss's Adam and Eve.
Because they were seduced by the Snake, ate the fruit, and were cast out of Eden, their lives changed. They became aware of the world. Both of them are the main forces against The Patriot AI, this becomes their complete focus after MGSV. Hell bent, they were determined to stop it, and in turn bring Big Boss out of his induced coma. This was planned far before Big Boss was "killed' in Zanzibar Land. MGSV is very clear in this.
They lost faith in the legend, this didn't fall out of love.
If they did, Big Boss would have never reached his epiphany at the end of MGS4. The tape Naomi left for Big Boss was a message from both EVA and Ocelot through her.
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>>315373084
Is it news to you that egg yolk is the bird equivalent of menstrual blood?
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>>315372167
It took me nearly 20 minutes to reply to one question. When I said hour, that didn't include writing it. Between screen capping and digging up all the links it would take several hours, and I doubt you'd still be in the thread if it were alive.

>>315372525
Not everything is in the novel. Some though.
Yes the new ones.
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>>315373468
Pretty sure it would be the unfertilized egg, of a chicken
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>>315373616
In any case, it's all protein for an unborn child that's effectively waste when no fertilization takes place.
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>>315373906
and it tastes so good
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>>315373906
Still a hell of a big difference between that and fucking menstrual blood.
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