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Trails of Cold Steel/JRPG Vita Thread

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Who is gonna get this for the Vita?
Also what other JRPG's for the Vita-master-race are you gonna get this year?
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>no dual audio
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>>315323212
Really?
Shit. I already bought lost dimension and the english dub killed it.
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>>315322815
I've heard the vita version has performance issues, so I plan on getting the ps3 version instead
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>>315323583
I heard that about lost dimension but it turned out to be ridiculously overstated so I'd go vita.
But no dual audio...not again. maybe it'll get a pc port though..then again the vita is my jrpg machine anyway I like playing in bed it's comfy.
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>>315323345
>>315323212

It should be alright this game isn't even fully voiced.
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>Valkyria Chronicles went from WAR traveling around the countryside fighting invasion to about being in highschool
>Trails went from ADVENTURE traveling around the countryside braced for adventure to about being in highschool

JAPAAAAAN
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>>315323583
It's mostly fine outside of some cutscenes. This boss particularly kills the framerate in cutscene but runs fine in battle.
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>>315326254
Oh so there's no issues in battles or travel or anything?
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>>315323212
Dual audio is a privilege you fuck boi, not something you should expect.


This game is garbage anyways so i won't get the english release.
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>>315323212
>Falcom Game
>Japanese Dub
Pick one
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I'm gonna play the shit out of the PS3 version. Pre-ordered the legacy edition.
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They created a foot fetish version.
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>>315322815
>cold steel
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I'm ready to take it easy on a nice countryside road FINISH THE FIGHT
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>>315326525
Battles it's stable but there was one area the framerate just shits itself but you don't really go there outside of 1 quest.
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So how does the story/setting/gameplay compare with TiTS?
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>>315327221
This meme will never end will it?
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>>315327221

THE HEGEHEG
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I'll get it but not for Vita.
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>>315327250
He literally died for nothing He had no plans whatsoever after getting revenge..
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>>315327526
It is a combat Academy son. At least you go outside of the school for field trips so it is not as bad as many light novels.
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>>315327526
It's set in Erebonia, and you play as a class of students from a military school as you are sent to do your assignments which are military missions and whatnot, along with school related shenanigans. I forget if the first had it but the second game has relationship systems between the main character and the rest of party none of which changes the ending, and the Sen games seem to forshadow someone who might be a major villain at the end of the overarching story.

Also the main character is just a complete shitheap for several reasons.
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>>315327526
It plays better but you should start on nightmare since the game is too easy on normal. Story is okay. The setting is good but it's wasted potential.
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>>315327668
Not everyone needs a greater goal. Many just plan one step at a time even in real life.
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>>315327906
I found nothing wrong with rean when I played.
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>>315327941
But in the end, he didn't really accomplish anything.
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>>315322815
>Vita
I thought this thing was dead
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>>315328131
And you could argue the same for many people.
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You can always get Trillion
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>>315328369
That is an actual Vn.
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>>315322815
Already played it on PS3.

Considering getting SC Evo, but not sure since I've got a massive backlog so don't want to just spend too much time replaying games. Other than that nothing else I'm wanting for the vita this year.
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>>315328061
Anyone who can use a sword REALLY WELL and silver hair gets an automatic "Asshole" check in my book.
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>>315328948
Rean is passive to be an asshole.
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>>315328948
He might be okay.

Then again I always kinda wanted a sword user MC in these games. I guess I got my wish sort of.
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>>315329140
>too passive to be an asshole.
Unless you are making moves on his adoptive sister.
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>>315328532
>>315328369
I've heard that it's made by Ex Disgaea 4 devs that joined CH after leaving NIS and its a pretty good game
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>>315328061
The problem with Rean is that he pretty much stays the same until the ending on sen 2. He's never really knows what the hell is going on and is always getting pushed around by others. The letter that you get from Oliver at the end pretty much summarizes what this game is about.

I don't even mind his BS powers
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>>315328185
Not for JRPG's and VN's. For Western games yeah but I only got it for Japanese localizations.
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>>315329413
Will Send 3 be on PS4? Would Falcom do PS3/4/vita?
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>>315329580
Maybe, I heard rumours of a HD collection coming to ps4 a few months ago but nothing is announced.
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>>315329934
I doubt an HD collection will be made until the erebonia arctic finished.
Some speculate there will be a fourth game.
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>>315329934
Wouldn't that be too early?

Then again porting stuff to a million different platforms is a Falcom tradition.
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Is this a stand alone thing or will I get left with a cliffhanger ending and have to wait 5 years for the ending like FC?
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>>315330384
The latter.
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>>315330102
Calvard would be cool but I really hope they'll take away the robot battles in future games.
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I'm probably gonna pick it up.

I enjoyed TiTS enough and I'm hoping that if I keep throwing money at Falcom games, maybe they'll notice us and we can start getting games when they release instead of years later.
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>>315330459
Fuck
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>>315322815

Any reason to get it on Vita other than it being portable?

I don't even own a Vita. I play all my Vita games on a VitaTV, so wouldn't playing on PS3 be better since there's 720p vs 540p?

Actually, is there any reason for me, or anyone in my situation to get a ps3/vita crossplatform game on Vita rather than PS3?
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>>315322815
>Also what other JRPG's for the Vita-master-race are you gonna get this year?
Not a JRPG but I'm definitely grabbing Gundam.
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>>315330647
It's $20 cheaper
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>>315330743
Both ps3 and vita versions are 40 dollars for the base game on amazon senpai
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>>315330384
It shouldn't take long for sen 2 to get translated it's really short compared to other games and it's dialogue is mostly useless.
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>>315330780
oh then no reason to not go PS3
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>>315330548
But I love giant robot battles. I just wish I had more control rather than rock paper scissors.
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>>315330785

Plus, XSEED is never going to outsource to Carpe Suicidal again, so it probably won't take that long.
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>>315330647
Go for ps3 it's better in every way. Vita is good if you want portability.
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>>315330743
That is only when it is PS4 to vita not ps3/vita.
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>>315322815
Nothin' personnel, kid.
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>>315330929

Thanks senpai. If portability is the only difference then yeah, PS3 it is.
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This hasn't had a release date announced, has it?
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>>315331140
No announcement yet.
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>>315331140
Both this and EDF 2 have both been getting their dates pushed back on amazon, it says december now for both of them, but I don't think those are official dates
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>>315330848
They tried to do it in sen 2 by give you the option to summon it but it's damage is so low the only thing that is less useful than the robot would be Elliot. I don't think robot battles are meant to be in these games.
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Has Sen 3 even been announced?
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>>315331140
Nope. At least for non placeholder dates.
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>>315331571
Next TGS.
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is this game even worth getting? never heard of the trails series before and suddenly there are like 3 games here?
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>>315331224
Hm. Still, given tits came out with a week's notice, this could be out before 2016. Wasn't the translation done ages ago?
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>>315332023
>suddenly
Anon Trails FC has been localized for like 5 years
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>>315332023
Do you like reading? Do you like generic JRPG combat? Do you like slow burning hells? Maybe you should try one.
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Anyone else enjoying SC?
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>>315332276
I haven't played it or FC yet, but I bought it on PSN already
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>>315332276
Yes.

I just finished that particular chapter yesterday.
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Does anyone know if there's a version of the Japanese SC sound files that includes voices for the enforcers? All of them are completely silent with JP voices turned on, except for Loewe.
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>>315332276
Finished it. I wish Kevin had been the main character, just kidding but seriously I want 3rd now.
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>>315323212
This. For TitS at least it's only battle voices, and even then I can just mod the Jap voices back in. But Cold Steel actually has voiced dialogue, and I can't mod it to fix it, so fuck that.
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>>315327909
>you should start on nightmare since the game is too easy on normal.
>Falcom game
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>>315332276

Not me. I want to do another FC run with 100% before doing SC but I can't find motivation. btw, Is there a good guide for FC? I don't mind spoilers and shit obviously since I've already done the game.
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>>315331374
Why not? Just think of them as Suikoden's duels.
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>>315333228

I haven't played Coldsteel/Sen but Falcom games became pretty casual recently.
Ys Celceta is easy even on nightmare, and remains fairly easy even if you refrain from using healing items. Fuck, why did they even allow unlimited items? That's retarded for Ys.
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>>315333228
There's a speed quartz that allows you to move twice and you can keep casting it until you run out of EP if you run out just switch with another character or just use items
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>>315333491
>Ys Celceta is easy even on nightmare
Except that on nightmare every boss is a massive damage sponge that takes fucking forever to kill, so playing on nightmare for NG turns the game into an absolute chore.
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>>315322815
i want to play some games where i can hook up with some good waifus, is vita worth getting for waifu games?

pc is pretty barren for waifu games at this point, games like shadowrun hong kong don't even have mods for waifus :(
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>>315322815
Is vita worth getting for waifu games? Any good ones?

PC has basically no waifu games at this point. Games like shadowrun hong kong don't even have mods for waifus :(

BG2 had waifus, why can't I waifus /v/
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>>315334352
>>315334305
whoops, lol
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>>315334065

Yeah it's a chore but it's easy since the attacks are predictable and easy to avoid. The dash button is magical and dodging at the last moment will freeze the boss a couple of seconds so you can rape his face. Not really interesting though, I agree.
Seven had a similar issue, sometimes I took 10 minutes to kill a fucking boss, and I wasn't underleveled. At least the last ones had different forms, so the fight was more entertaining.
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>>315333228
Trails of Cold Steel was dumbed down massively to appeal to casuals. They oversimplified the magic system and none of the fights are really that difficult. The games are like FC if you took out the penguin and final dungeon in terms of difficulty.
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>>315335252
So not all that diffrent then?
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>>315335342
Fuck off
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>>315332276
Lovin it,

Best song : https://youtu.be/5ok9bzDzaS0
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Hope this sells ok, wouldn't want them to cancel the localization of the sequel.
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>>315336561
They've already pretty much confirmed Sen2 is coming over, and falcom pretty clearly wants to push out as much of their catalog as they possibly can, but 3rd is still a decent sized project so it will be a while since I doubt they have started on it as of now.
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>>315336561
Xseed pretty much said they're gonna do CS2 no matter what.
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>>315336768
>>315336931
Cold Steel 2: Nothin Personnel boogaloo is already almost fully translated. Of course they're going to finish it. They're not going to do The 3rd, Zero, or Ao though
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>>315328131

He planted the seed of rebellion in rean. Fuck, Falcom needs to announce sen 3 already and show where the fuck they're going with these subplots.
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>skipping 3rd, ao and zero but localizing pretty much the worst kiseki
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>>315323583
The loading times for the vita version are fucking atrocious. I don't understand how anyone can stand this shit without mentioning it.
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>>315333228
I dunno whats going on with them. Tokyo Xanadu was great but way too goddamn easy. Hard mode was easy as balls and I hear Nightmare was pretty much the same.
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>>315338456
They can't make things too hard anymore.

Oh and great that you like Tokyo Xanadu so much.
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>>315338441
Wait, it has a fucking calendar system? What it is, a goddamn persona?
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>>315338894

It just keeps track of the date so you have a greater sense of the passage of time.
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>>315338894
Persona didn't invent calendar systems.
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>>315338894
>schoolshit has calander
wooooooow
It's not used for anything as far as I know.
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>>315322815
Probably not.
I have bought all the vita games that interest me. I'm stoked about the localization of SfSC. Hopefully its there will be an announcement soon.
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>>315338894
It's nothing very important anyway.
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>>315339094
>Nigger lips

How embarrassing...
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How long Ao/Zero compared to FC/SC?
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>>315339534
Ao is the largest script in the series, SC being second largest.
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>>315338894
PERSONA
INVENTED
THE
CALENDAR

I'm sure you believe it was the first game with time management too, even though Japan has a game series specifically made about nothing BUT time management since before the first Persona ever came out, let alone the first SMT game at all.
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>>315339816
Persona invented a lot of things. Teenagers in JRPGs, calendar systems, social links, etc.

It's no wonder why people compare everything to it.
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>>315339984
And random generated dungeons Female MCs..
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>>315340205
Anon..There were Female MCs before Persona.
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>>315332276
I'm only on Ch 2, but it's already so much better than FC.
I don't know what it is but the story feels a lot smoother and more immersive.
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>>315340332

Those two posts were satire.
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>>315340393
>I don't know what it is but the story feels a lot smoother and more immersive.
You get much more tools from the get go and you're already familiar with all the characters
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>>315338435
>pretty much
There's no "pretty much" about it. Even FC is better, the Erebonia arc takes two games to cover the same ground as FC.
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>>315340393
It gives you free space for exploration and generally throws you into the action pretty fast.
Just you wait for second half of chapter 3, that shit was GOAT.
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>>315340642
>Even
Are you implying that FC was bad? It was slow, but really fucking comfy at the same time.
The only bad thing about it is hilariously low difficulty aside from, what, 3 places?
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>>315340332
Gee anon, how embarrassing.
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>>315340393
There's a lot more of a urgent pace in SC.
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>>315340787
No, I was saying that Cold Steel 1 and 2 combined only really cover as much story as FC does in a single game. FC is the worst of the pre-Sen games but it's by no means bad.
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Where do I solve the riddle in Zeiss?
The one the phantom thief gives you, "look for something behind a 40 year old man" or something
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>>315341250
You should read the sign on the front of the clock tower.
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>>315341250
>"look for something behind a 40 year old man
The Clock tower I think that's the answer.
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>>315341250
Oh boy you're in for a lot of fun with his riddles.
Good luck in ch.5.
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>>315341250
>Enforcer No. X

I was incredibly relieved when the next guy introduces himself with a roman numeral number. Initially I just thought this guy was X, like the letter, and all the enforcers would have ridiculous non-numbers.

What the fuck is Enforcer No. 0 supposed to MEAN?
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>>315341682
0 as in tarot card the Fool, and Cuntpanella is also title the Fool as in the Jester
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>>315341250
>he just wants to mindbreak Kloe
Seriously hoping there's doujin of this.
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>>315342235
Of course not, it's mostly sen shit with the shitty tsundere.
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>>315342235
When pigs fly anon.
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>>315342235
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>>315338435
Falcom is pushing for them to just ignore the Liberl and Crossbell arcs, despite being infinitely better.
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>>315341548

>FTHKC2E

What the fuck, Bleublanc
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>>315341682
They're all tarot references. Walter is No. VIII (Strength), Renne is No. XV (The Devil), Biblanc is X (Wheel of Fortune), etc. which in some way reflects their character.
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>>315342734
Oh well, looks like i just need to memorize 2000 alien symbols to play in them then.
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>>315342235
There are two doujins of Kloze I think and both revolve around Joshua like her character
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>>315342957
Don't think of the long and arduous road of kanji memorization, just do it and pick up words you read along the way.
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>>315322815
does it contains nudes?
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>>315342848
That was the one that made break down and use a guide.

The messed up part is that I did have the right idea of where to go but I didn't actually go to the part that triggered the next clue I felt so dumb afterwards.
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For Mr. X's puzzle regarding "earth" and "goddess", do I have to wait until I have access to the Limestone Cave?
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>>315343108
Yes, after all, god of war has nudes and that is also a PS3 game.
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I know I'm basically asking to get spoiled but please tell me you get Joshua back somewhere halfway through and not just right at the end. Thats all I want to know

I like the party but I really want those two back together. I get it, thats the whole point but I don't want them to come back together right at the end of the game just to never hear of them again.
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>>315343648
That one's a tough one to figure out.

No you don't go to the limestone cave. You know the conveyor belt like section on B1? You're suppose to talk to the NPC in that area.
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>>315343851
>never hear of them again
>extensive backstory and playable in 3rd and make appearances throughout Zero and are playable during the final dungeon
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>>315344108
yo aceman, as weeb as you are, and with how much time you have in your hands have you never thought of learning japanese?

you can't say you don't have enough time given how much you post in 4chan
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>>315344375
>3rd ever getting translated
anon you heard me right...
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>>315343851

But anon, Estelle and Joshua keep showing up in the games that come aft oh wait lol skipped.
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>>315344446
I lack the motivation necessary.

That and I'm kinda lazy.
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>>315343851
End of ch. 6 from what i remember, and game has 9 of them.
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>>315344619
you need motivation if you dont have time
if you have time, all it takes is you not giving up


it takes 0 motivation to learn japanese if you have infinite free time.

it's a "as long as you stick with it" thing
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>>315344796
Still a hefty chunk left then

thanks anon
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>>315344810
I'll think about it.
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>>315326710
Agreed, dub shit eaters need to stop being so entitled. Sub master race would rather spend our time grinding in a game than on Kanji and we don't waste developers time on useless resources like "english voices".
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>>315344447
Learn moon anon, it's the only choice.
It will take less time than waiting for any translation and will also allow you to play in some GOAT games like PS2 ToD or Remix RPG Adventure.
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>Final Chapter: Trails in the Sky
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>>315344875
Oh, and wait for the beginning of ch. 4 for anime as fuck moment involving him.
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>>315344945
you don't have anything to lose brah
it might take you 7 years or however many years

at least whatever time you spent on it even if 30 minutes a day weren't wasted

just don't drop it and it should be cool

you may think that's a long time, but i'd say if everyone in this thread looked up just 20 minutes a day they'd be playing the whole series today
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>>315345043
>Learning a whole new language for a handful of videogames
I've thought about it but I have much bigger things I should invest my sparse energy into
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>>315343087
Is Rosetta Stone a good place to start?
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>>315345216
Yeah thanks anon.

I'm still gonna think about it but thanks.
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>>315345334
There are many more than just a "handful"

but if you don't have the time, or energy then might as well not look for them
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>>315345385
It's a terrible place to start. Go read the pastebin in /a/'s DJT first.
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>>315345334
I've learned english exclusively for videogames back in days.
Everything just depends on how much you value this hobby, honestly. Learning new language is never a waste, especially if it directly concerns things you like.
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>>315345686
oh and don't lurk djt

get the materials and fuck right off
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>>315345728
I've learned english THROUGH videogames
thats the only way I can learn things anyways, by getting used to it through frequent use

I don't think japanese is simple enough to just gradually "get it"
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>>315345979
you can literally learn jap just by using an android or an iOS dictionary
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>>315334352
There is photokano and Ciel Nosurge. There is also Kimikiss.
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>>315345979
>I don't think japanese is simple enough to just gradually "get it"

It is. Just like every other language on Earth. Japanese grammar and syntax is very easy to grasp, and incredibly consistent too. The hard part is Kanji, but that just gets easier as you go on.
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>>315346296
>forgetting amagami
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>>315331374
Robutt is useful if you are trying to do a low level run and need something to tank some hits. That said just think of it as Suikoden's map battles. It's just extra fun.
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>>315342376
>Mostly sen shit.
There is a lot of Ao/zero shit too. It was just never scanned. Same with Sora. That said most video games unless they are things like Kancolle, Tohou, or certain MMOs dont' get many doujins much less scanned.
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>>315346515
I just named three on top of my head anon. But yeah I imported that too.
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;_;
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>>315346529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHXICZIQE5M

The music is pretty nice too
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>>315345869
>don't lurk djt
Why's that?
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>>315346990
be strong Renne, be strong for yourself
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>>315339080
>Tokyo Xanadu
>Xanadu
Please tell me this has something to do with ELO's Xanadu
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>>315338894
Caledar is there so you can keep track of the time. And see which events align with what happened in the Crossbell games.
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>>315347337
It's a reboot of the Xanadu series to make it appeal to a wider audience.
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>>315342734
>>315342957
I'm pretty sure the reason is because ao and zero are on psp which is the version falcom made. Evolution ports are done by Kadokawa and Chara-ani for one. Two the Evolution ports are for vita.
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What do the stats do? I don't know DEX, ATS, and ADF
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>>315347846
>Reboot
No Xanadu has not been rebooted at all. Xanadu is not connected closely at all in the first place. They just share some stuff.
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>>315347919
Dex = Hit rate
ATS = Arts damage
ADF = Arts Defense
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>>315347337
>>315347846
Absolutely nothing to do with any other Xanadu. Just a name similarity.
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>>315347919
>ATS
Is used for the damage calculation for your arts.
>ADF
Is used for the damage reduction calculation against arts.
>DEX
Pretty sure that is used for how often your character will hit things like in most jrpgs.
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So why do Kiseki fans hate Sen so much?
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>>315348765
Because you can see falcom start to turn with it from a company that could hang by their usual laurels and themes to one that has to jump on board fads to sell products.
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>>315348765
They hate the Academy stuff. And not all Kiseki fans hate it. It more split the fanbase in two. Many did not like the loading times Sen I had at launch.
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>>315348765
casualizes the orbment system and difficulty
is mainly a retread of FC's central themes
starts pandering to the persona crowd

I know at least a few people were pissed that the Erebonia arc had school students at the focus
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>>315348765
Generally shitty writing all around. The school setting is the least of its problems desu
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>>315348765
school setting is least of Sen's problem.
>dumbed down Quartz system
>everyone being 1 dimensional static characters with 0 development
>social links that doesn't affect the main story at all no matter who you choose to spend time with
>optional bosses tanks your killing blow with 1 hp left and kills you in 1 hit even in NG+
Oh and think of the Enforcers in SC, but none of your party member shares the same rivalry with any of them to the levels of Olivier v Blblanc, Zin v Walter, Schera v Luciolla, Tita v Renne, and Joshua v Loewe
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>>315348765
This
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Was there anyone who really didn't see the "twist" about Renne's identity coming?
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>>315349360
Oh and plenty of music are generic epic orchestra with chanting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc6qq0BVYLo
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>>315348765
That's opening a can of worms anon.

Right off the top of my head.
>Story
>More streamlined Orbital system
>Characters
>Setting

And some other shit I'm trying to remember.
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>>315349360
Why does everyone have to have rivalry? You can't just force rivalries in everything especially if they don't fit a person.
All the other complaints are understandable.
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>>315349637
The setting is fine but it was just horribly done.
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>>315349693
That's the problem, Sen tries to force the rivalries when they don't really work just to be like SC, where the "rivalries" were pretty natural.
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>>315349551
me
I played blind a few years ago and knew nothing about the series
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>>315349360
McBurn was a pretty cool guy.
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閃の軌跡の不満
シナリオ関連
・性格的に前作主人公ロイドにそっくりなリィン
・限定版ドラマCDで超重要イベント 結果的に通常版=不完全版に
・士官学校とは到底思えないヌル過ぎ自由過ぎな士官学校
・ラスト付近で突然ロボ同士の戦いに 次作以降更なる世界観崩壊の危惧
・とりあえず一言喋っておけな、集合時のⅦ組のセリフ
・事態の大まかな流れが前作碧で語られたため緊張感が無い
・全体的にご都合主義的な展開だらけであまりにも短絡的なシナリオ

システム関連
・長過ぎ多過ぎなロード(特にVita版)
・お粗末なグラフィック、モーション
・周回前提で作ってるくせに2周目以降の変化があまりない(隠しボス・ダンジョン
・アクティブボイスが終わるまで一部行動ができなくなる(宝箱を開けるなど)
・移動時に障害物に引っかかると動きが止まる
・無意味に長くて移動に時間かかるハシゴ

閃の軌跡Ⅱの不満
シナリオ関連
・内戦状態とは到底思えない緊迫感のなさ、また矛盾してる武力介入。私情優先で戦争に足を突っ込む学生と教官
・2キャラごとに同じパターンを繰り返す単調な展開
・雪だるま方式で積み上がる謎と伏線
・とりあえず存在感出しておけな、シナリオ要所での無意味な固定キャラ
・キャラを追い詰めて逃げ道をなくしてる癖に信念は「道を切り拓く」

システム関連
・だるい上に作業感半端ない騎神戦
・ギミックすらもミニマップに表示され、完全ゆとり仕様化
・絆システムのみでキャラ補完するやっつけシナリオ。ヒロインはクロウ
・試練の箱とかいう、二度手間かつ意味がわからない存在。リィン以外は仲悪いの?

can someone translate this and make a copypasta everytime someone asks what's wrong with sen?
im too lazy to translate
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>>315350534
Just show them this

https://youtu.be/wPL_AeWsAwc?list=PLMYr6by9FfPJ0ZSad-nppmC2r1glBmKk3&t=2301
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>>315350534
Wheres my sheckles senpai
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>>315350534
>限定版ドラマCD
That still kinda pisses me off. It would've given people on why Rean's motivations if they included in the game.
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>>315350973
I can't even understand the language, and I understood all that shit, holy fuck that is some generic tripe.
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>>315350534
>ヒロインはクロウ
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>>315351186
Fuck waifufag ruined everything
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>>315322815
>no jp voice
fuckyou atlus oh wait, fuck you xseed
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>>315351186
Really, this is a complaint? Some people need to fuck off.

"EY YO, THERE'S TOO MANY GUYS IN THIS GAME FRONT AND CENTER, MAKE THE EDGY ONE A WOMAN PLEASE"
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>>315351468
I'm afraid you missed the point.
That was jabbing at the game's development and lack of know-how in story telling
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>>315351326
>being this triggered by girls
time to come out of the closet anon
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>>315350534
>とりあえず一言喋っておけな、集合時のⅦ組のセリフ
>事態の大まかな流れが前作碧で語られたため緊張感が無い
>全体的にご都合主義的な展開だらけであまりにも短絡的なシナリオ
Can you translate these 3? I think the middle is saying something like there's no state of tension despite all the shit happening across the border at Crossbell. While all the happenings are happening, Sen cast is off enjoying their kawaii school nichijou
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>>315351961
>事態の大まかな流れが前作碧で語られたため緊張感が無い
It just said that everything that there is no tension since you already know what happened in Ao already
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>>315351961
>in the mean time say something-style of gathering shout (jabbing at characters who at times don't speak at all and require rean to do his shout gathering shout for them to talk)
>because shit was revealed at the end of Ao, there's no sense of urgency or tension
>the whole game is played by rule of convenience/circumstance (means the characters act because they feel like they should, not because they have something at stake), this filling the scenario makes for a too simplistic story

Last was mainly making a very good point how no character has anything at stake in all of this, but just do it out of their "circumstance principle" which is very very very common for light novel main characters

which is what makes Rean "generic"
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>>315352585
previous characters differed from the third point because
1- they're bracers, and they had a clear objective in mind or
2 - they were cops doing their job

in 3 they're students, yeah they're in a special class, but they're always butting in while having nothing at stake at all for them to care, and just do it because, well, they feel like they should

very common low tier light novel story telling
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>>315322815
Is Zero & Ao no Kiseki are more text heavy than TitS?
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>>315352841
Yes.
Ao is about as text heavy as dragon quest VII on the PS1

Saying this as someone who played both
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>>315352841
yes
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>>315352924
>>315352946
Shit...
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>>315352585
>>315352814
I see. Part of the reason there's no tension in Sen is also because they have nothing at stake and move along the plot as students.
So it seems I'm not the only one sick of Rean doing the "Thors Military Academy Class VII Let's do this!" shout every fucking time they do something.
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What the FUCK is this encounter.
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>>315350534
>性格的に前作主人公ロイドにそっくりなリィン
Really? Reans mopes around way more than Lloyd.
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>>315352814
You have a point.

Stake is a pretty important thing and like you said In FC and SC the characters help people because well it's their job same goes for Zero and Ao.

But I have a soft for characters who do the world saving thing just because it's the right thing to do even when they have every right to back out.

I guess CS just handled it poorly.
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>>315353106
welcome to die
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>>315353142
they're pretty much the same if you take away Lloyd's objective/stake and put him in a school suit he's exactly like rean

but people usually just call him a weaker version of lloyd which is pretty much equal to what I just said above
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>>315323583
PS3 versio master race, playing in a big screen wil be awasome.
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>>315353857
>but people usually just call him a weaker version of lloyd which is pretty much equal to what I just said above
Wait hold up do the Japs not like Lloyd much either?
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>>315354295
no they're usually cool with lloyd

they just don't like rean because rean is a shit version of lloyd
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>>315354482
Oh alright.
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>>315350973
How can people watch this and still be willing to pay $40 for it

I'd have skipped Sen so hard if I saw this back in 2013
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>>315353857
Rean at the end of sen 2 seem pretty motivated, I guess the main difference is that you never see that develop into anything. Llyod during the prison break chapter was pretty motivated.
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>>315354295
They're neutral towards him. He's never really at the top of the polls or anything but he places pretty high. He's not really hateable, he just doesn't stand out after games where Estelle and Kevin are protagonists.
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Why isn't Campanella's sprite showing up in Chapter 3?
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>>315354979
Makes sense it'd be a tough act to follow after them.

Playing SC I can see why they liked Kevin so much that Falcom just made a game about him.
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>>315354979
>Estelle

Of course the fucking Japs are going to value paper thin waifu bait over a legitimately good character.
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>>315355263
How is Lloyd waifu bait? And I wouldn't say he's paper-thin either
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>>315350973

those are some quality Bethesda animations
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>>315354979
Really?
I like Llyod and Kevin more than Estelle
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>>315322815
Can't decide on PS3 or Vita version. I love playing shit on my vita but I heard the Vita version was buggy.
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>>315355495
Then I think you have brain problems. Kevin is one thing but Lloyd isn't near as interesting as Estelle and is outshined by the rest of the cast in his own game.
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>>315355598
I thought Estelle was pretty dumb in FC it wasn't until SC that I started to like her
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>>315355220
Kevin actually isn't that popular, surprisingly. Lower than Lloyd now that I actually checked the polls.
>>315355782
That's not a compelling argument since Lloyd is really dumb at times too
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>>315355912
>Dengeki top 100 favorite Playstation chara poll
>Rean #8
Yeah nah the Nips have shit taste
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>>315356086
He looks cool and his English voice is great, so he can't be that bad. I'm looking forward to playing as him.
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>>315355912
Llyod is dumb at social interactions but overall he does seem to be more aware of things.
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>>315354943
>this guy isn't fully playble.

Why though?
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>>315356086
Here's the poll that actually asked the fans who have played the whole series and not just fags who played Sen and voted for Rean because it was flavor of the month when Dengeki did that poll.
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>>315356224
He has shinji syndrome, so you'll be eatting that shit later.
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>>315356412
He's not that good anyways.
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>>315356528
Elaborate please.
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>>315356478
Didn't think people would like Randy that much.
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>>315322815
>this year

>implying
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>>315357056
I'm actually surprised Lloyd beat him, but I guess a lot of japs liked that it was easier to self-insert as Lloyd.
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>>315353106

Use Agate
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>>315357056
>>315357265
Fujoshi
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Tita keeps dying.
What do?
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>>315322815
>Trails of cold steel
>cold steel

Jesus fucking christ are they serious?
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>>315358025
Call in her metal gear and put her inside of it
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>>315353106
Put Zane in a corner, everybody else other corner. Zane uses Taunt so the monsters crowd him but only 1 or 2 can reach, and you don't get hit with AOE faint. Spam Firebolt EX and healing with other three.
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>>315358143
The VA for Rene did a "nothin personnel kid" bit for us. Totally worth such a stupid name.
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>>315359754
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s8l8sgi9wvtwsuv/NuthinPersonnel.mp3?dl=0
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Who should I upgrade slots for? I already finished Estelle's.
I don't want to waste sepith, only to get a character switch.
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>when you miss your attack on a critical turn bonus
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>>315360432
Kevin if you want to min/max. Otherwise just do it for whoever you want to use.
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>>315360432
prioritize casters like Olivier and Kloze
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>>315360432
Olivier and Kloe both stick around. There are segments where one or the other isn't available but it's rare.
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>>315360432
By the time you get roughly halfway you'll probably upgrade most of them.

But if you really want a suggestion maybe do the more arts focused ones like Kloe.
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All this foreshadowing in side dialogue with Renne.
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>>315356478

Why do japs have shit tastes and not vote for the number 1 fag of kiseki?
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>>315361459
gotta love those foreshadowing and world building
>White Gehnna
>sinners go to Gehnna
>Gehenna is like Hebrew for Purgatory
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>>315361813
But they did, Olivier won the poll.
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>>315360432
Olivier can cast zodaic and carry and a full array of heals, fullscreen nukes, lost moebius, ep increase and cost reduction when you're barely halfway through the game and doesn't need to devote half his slots to water.
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>>315361919

Shit is that olivier? I haven't played any of the non translated games yet, and still working through sc after I realized if I want perfect bp I would have to start over 20 hours in.
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I hope this comes out on PC because I don't want to hook up my PS3 or buy a Vita.
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>>315361839
It's too bad 3rd/Zero/Ao will never get translated so people will never understand the foreshadowing references like this.
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>>315362191
Yeah, that's what he looks like in Sen.
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>>315362310

Yeah after you said something in the last post I actually looked at the image with my very failing knowledge of katakana and realized it's him.
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>>315362217
It's not coming to PC.
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>>315362217
That would take a miracle. Nip developers unless they are people like Alicesoft don't do much PC development these days.
It's why we still don't have SMT games other than emulation on PC.
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>>315365241
No shit? We don't get things because they don't make them? That's some next level insight right there.
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>>315365241
Their last PC release was YSI and II chronicles back in 2009.
Their last new game PC was Zwei II for PC back in 2008.
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How would you like it if Sen became trails of Cold feet?
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>>315366296
>shoes and hose
I doubt her feet are that cold.
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>We will never get a remake of Ys 6.
>>
Man, fighting these enforcers in the tower at the flying city really reminds me just how much the battle system has changed compared to the boring slogfest that you're stuck with early on. It's pretty challenging and fun when you get toward the end.
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>>315366917
R.I.P
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>>315366917
Oh well.
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>>315366917
What happen to the artist on the right?
I prefer this ones work better than Falcoms current artist on the left
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>>315367509
Probably wanted to work for someone else and not a niche developer company.
I am pretty sure the current artist is also this one >>315367346
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>>315366970
>25 hours into hard mode
>only on ch2
maybe if I started on Normal and didn't have school I wouldve beaten the game already
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>>315369202
I got the Anton achievement after speaking to him only once.
Is it bugged or is that the only time you see him in SC?
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>>315369313
I did too. It's probably fucked up, like when I got the 'No S-crafts on final boss' achievement when I used every goddamn one in FC.
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>>315369313
You do a quest with him in Rolent.

Though I think it may the work of a bug as well.
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So they are skipping translating the 3rd so they can translate 3rd EVO later r-right.
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>>315370183
If SC does poorly I doubt they will bother, unless XSEED really doesn't mind losing money and/or their pride is on the line and don't want any regrets and finish this fucking trilogy.
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>>315370183
Go tell Falcom to make PC versions if you want them to get translated.
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>>315370183
>Evo games ever making it to English
Chara-ani doesn't seem to like English speaking foreigners
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>>315370183
>3rd Evo
>Doing an vita exclusive game.
Anon, I.
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Tbh the scene in SC where Olivier is revealed as an Erebonian prince makes me wanna play the cold steel games after all, but I don't own a TV, a PS3, or a vita, and I don't see how i can justify purchasing them just to play two games. I wish they would come out on PC, but I know they won't.
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>>315370328
Buy a playstation(vita) TV. You can get them for $40 USD.
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>>315369313
It's bugged. XSEED confirmed
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>>315370183
I wonder what they'll change in that whenever it eventually gets made.
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>>315370183
No, they aren't. For starters, they can't get the rights to the Evo games anyway. Not to mention SC isn't doing very well. They'll likely forget about it and when Cold Steel inevitably sells like hotcakes because of schoolgirls in spite of being the inferior game, they'll just focus on that instead.
>>315370328
Olivier barely appears at all in Sen compared to how important his role is and he doesn't act anything like he does in the previous games. He barely resembles the Olivier you know.
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>>315370545
The artist? Everyone one will become even more moe. Renne will not be used goods anymore?
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>>315370662
Renne's memory door will likely be the same as the PSP version (IE glossing over it and skipping all the important parts).
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>>315370658
But that's to be expected when someone drops the act.
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>>315370662
Tom said he will push for the original scene to still be in there and I hope if they ever do get to it I hope he pulls through.
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>>315370969
Anon we are talking about the EVO version which will never come over.
>>315370658
I would hope a person would be quite a bit more serious when in their official position.
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>>315370183
SC sold like shit. So it's never ever. Better start learning moon if you want the others.
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>>315370936
It's not entirely an act, and now he's just boring. The new writer really can't handle Olivier.
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>>315370272
>Falcom
>PC versions
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>>315371125
It doesn't matter how much it sold. What matter is whether it made a profit.
Didn't they pay like 2 people to do it and with 0 advertising they didn't really spend much at all.
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>>315370396
I would have to also buy a TV just to use it. Like I said, I don't watch tv and i don't own one. My best bet would probably be just buying a vita but I'd hate to spend the money just for two games.
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>>315371125
This meme again? It's way too early to say that. Quit spreading unsubstantiated crap. Steamspy itself says that it is incredibly unreliable for new games.
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>>315371252
You having something of a giggle?
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>>315370328
>but I don't own a TV
I don't see why that is relevant. You own a monitor. You're looking at it now.
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>>315371869
They don't make PC games anymore. All the recent PC release are done by Chinese.
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>>315371131
>Different Writer
>FC's scenario writer was a guy named Hisayoshi Takeiri
>Sen's scenario writer is a guy named Hisayoshi Takeiri

Must be a common name in Japan.
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>>315371993
Won't work. I could probably get the video on my monitor with an hdmi-to-vga, but there's no way any audio would work.
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>>315371869
They haven't done anything for PC since 2009.
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>>315372720
The scenarios for the entire series were plotted out before the series began. The actual stories and the way the events in the scenario are detailed is done by various other writers. One guy doesn't write a LOTR or two of text for every game.
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>>315372828
So what you are saying is that there was always supposed to be a robot and highschool. Makes sense.
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>>315372996
I rather doubt the presence of robots in a LoH game is a sign of sharp turns in the production process.
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>>315372996
robot was always there
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>>315372828
So what you are trying to say is that the entire series is/was being written by some literally who ghostwriter?
Yeah I guess that makes sense. Too bad I can't verify it.
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>>315372996
There was always going to be a conflict between nobles and commoners in the Erebonia arc, it was likely always going to revolve around Olivier's special military class (though I doubt the original idea was to have it feel the same as a Japanese high school and was likely supposed to feel more militarized originally) especially considering the references to it in the Crossbell, and yes, it's likely the robots were planned ahead of time considering giant robots have been around in the series since its inception.
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>>315373476
You can verify it by reading interviews about the series. It's a well-known fact that the overarching plot for the Kiseki series is already planned out from the start. That's sort of why all the games are so interconnected and reference each other so heavily.
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>>315373534
Yes, the anime high school is a pretty obvious attempt to pull new audiences. Even English speakers will know the empire is described as something like an analogue of late-19th-century Prussia in SC. They didn't believe in miniskirts.
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>>315372720
The issue was mostly Kondo taking over and Sato leaving in Sen

After Kondo started directing fully (the 3rd) you could already see they were planning on turning into a persona using memory doors on the third game

Then Zero happened, Kondo started to push his obsession with persona, but Sato still managed to keep him at bay and takeiri just kept doing his thing

In Sen, Sato left, Kondo pushed harder and harder for persona shit in Sen, Takeiri had 0 ideas and without Kato as producer to help nor Sato, they decided to do a shit copy of code geass

Add that up with poor graphics skills lack of know-hows you have Sen.
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>>315373476
Do you not fucking understand how you write a long series of stories with an overarching plot? You don't just sit down and write it as you go or you get a clusterfuck of stupidity and retcons like Kingdom Hearts. You have someone plan out the scenario for each story as a framework and foundation and then fill that in later. That's what made the series so great until they started filling it in with plastic instead of concrete.
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>>315373920
>Yes, the anime high school is a pretty obvious attempt to pull new audiences.
Well it kinda worked.
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People still eat up the bullshit Kondo said that the series was planned from the start


Holy shit you faggots are stupid to believe in his crap.

There's so much shit they regret doing, they even regret killing off Loewe in SC, you can even guess they'll find a way to bring the motherfucker back

They might have some "vague ideas" of developments, but a full story? Fuck no. After Sen you should've woken the fuck up to their lies
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>>315374101
Not really, considering popularity polls still consistently rank their older games higher and the games haven't really sold much more than the original versions of the original games did, let alone the various re-releases, ports, etc. for the older titles. They've also completely shattered the trust of their older dedicated fanbase, who will likely all jump ship if the third game fails to deliver.
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>>315373601
Well his name still shows up in the credits for Tokyo Xanadu too.
Then again him and Kondo are probably friends, and Kondo was listed as a Scenario writer for some of the games at one point.
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>>315374101
I hope it works it works at least a little bit in reverse such that SC stops selling like shit.

Even if it means that Sen onwards needs to be shit I just want the fucking Crossbell games.
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>chapter 2 end boss in SC
>fucking 4k health worms spamming earthquake that hitsthe whole map for 800 damage
> tita keeps dying
>all placed around you away from each other, goodluck with your aoes

Fucking fuck this fucking game. I picked normal so id breeze through thegame for the story, with mild challenge, notget assraped by worms

FC was not this hard
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>>315374487
Earthquake is a counterattack anon, stop hitting all the worms and focus one at a time.
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>>315374487
Don't use AOE attacks anon Earthquake is a counter move that happens if you hit even one of them.
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>>315374239
Kondo becoming the president is what fucked shit up

I saw a post in japanese board of a dude who played Xanadu on PC-88

The dude was in tears to what they did to the Xanadu name and what happened to falcom.

I felt really sorry for the man. Falcom hit naughty dog levels of shit company who gives middle fingers to fans.
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>>315374620
>oldtaku
Not even once.
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>>315374487
Focus attacks on one worm and the others will just attack or use single-hit low-damage ranged crafts. You can have Agate spam Spiral Edge and you'll almost never get earthquaked at all because the worms are slow enough that Agate can delay them indefinitely without clock up.
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>>315374620

If someone ever did a version of Lunar that was moetrash to pander to moe otaku, I'd be in tears too.
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>>315374725
fanboys are such faggots

falcom japanese fans are one of the most toxic fanbases in gaming
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>>315372789
I was going to say "surely the PS3 or Vita has a headphone port that your computer speakers could plug into" but then, Sony. So maybe not, huh.
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>>315374530
>>315374581
Im pretty sure that they still used it when i was down to three characters and spamming la tear shit and guarding.
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>>315323854
If you see heavy lags during battle and animation as overstated, you might as well go fuck yourself.

That said, Cold Steel only has painful loading times in comparison to the PS3 version.
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>>315375131
They'll keep using it once they start, so only use single-target attacks on one worm at a time.
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>>315374789
>a version of Lunar that was moetrash to pander to moe otaku

So the original game?
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>>315328185
Funny, thought the same thing about your mom.
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>>315375131
If you hit one, they use Earthquake on their next turn. It stacks. Only hit one worm at a time and keep delaying it so it doesn't get a turn. Then you only have to deal with the worms' regular attacks and lightning. Be glad you're not on hard mode where their regular attacks deal 1100-1300 damage and earthquake hits everyone for 1500.

Bring wind arts on everyone because even weak casters using Air Strike deal about 750 damage to them. Have everyone just spam air strike or healing while Agate spams delays.
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>>315374071
Do you mean the third scenario writer Hirotaka Sato, who isn't with Falcom anymore?
Because the producer Masayuki Kato is still with them. His fucking name was in the Tokyo Xanadu credits. I really hope you just got the names confused because your story is falling apart otherwise.
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>>315375310
Fuck you nigger.
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>>315374913
Tbh i poked around online and I've seen this get recommended. It even has an audio port for speakers but I'm not sure if it'll work.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E717OXE/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2XWN37VYVH7GK

The whole thing including the cold steel LE, memory card, pstv, controller and that converter is coming out to $130 on amazon. I may take the plunge if i think it'll work..
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>>315375542
Yeah
The main core issue is Kondo's presidency

that's all there is to it
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>>315375709
What can one man's obsession with megaten do
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>supposed master nothing personnel assassin of Ouroboros
>gets blinded and fainted by the lowest ranking army soldiers
Nice one black fag
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>>315375616
Don't start crying because you just now realized it.
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>>315375809
Nigga was trained to kill from the shadows
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>>315375789
>What can one man's obsession with Persona 4 do
ftfy
Kiseki game with press turn combat and multiple ending based on alignment would be cool instead of social links that did fuck all to the main story
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>>315375709
And investors pushing falcom to moefy the art to push out merch to sell for otaku

Just compare 2006's pre-Kondo's merchandise were byproducts of the games.

Pic related is pre-Kondo
This is post-Kondo presidency>>315374101

Difference is like night and day
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>>315374620
That's pretty funny that a grown man would be crying. Wish I was around to laugh at him.
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>>315375969
Hey I have that tapestry

it's my personal treasure
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>>315375290
>>315375426
Just beat it. Didnt know that it was a countrt and once they started, they spammed it.

Is there a bestiary entry that warns you against this? Or some sirt if hint? Seems kind of unfair to pit you in trial and error shit.

Nevermind. I was not expecting good gameplay from tits anyway. At least the story and characters are great.

Aside from the obvious agate and olivier, should i put in zane or tita? Kloe is already a wrongaanswer so im not me tioning her
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>>315375995
I wouldn't say he was crying
He did seem sad as fuck when he was posting

Most old falcom fans who are reprehensive of the company is, instead of the new fans who just spoil falcom and caress their heads
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>>315375641
Yep, I see no reason why that wouldn't work. Just be sure that you think the game is worth buying all that stuff just to play. Dispite being happy to see that it's all possible I don't really expect it to be. But that's just me.
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>>315376114
Ignore the haters, kloe isn't bad. She and Olivier were in my finishing party in fc and they are there once again. I like having her around.
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>>315375926
How the fuck is Lunar made for moe otaku you fucking retard?

You can't even pick your damn waifu, the story is a romance between two characters and a pretty solid RPG at that, it actually has substance and effort

it's not just a game that relies on cute girls to sell

so go fuck yourself
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>>315376198
>Yep, I see no reason why that wouldn't work.
Oh wait, I could be talking out my arse actually. That should work IF the PSTV has a full size HDMI port, fucked if I know whether it does or not.
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>>315376114
>Is there a bestiary entry that warns you against this?
If you have Heaven's Eye or Information equipped like you should it tells you when you target one. I don't know what you're bitching about, I beat them first try on hard mode.
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>>315376185
>Most old falcom fans reprehend the company now, instead of the new fans who just spoil them.

Fixed. And go to sleep anon.

Also if that guy really was a fan of theirs since the PC-8801 then he knows that Falcom(Also Square and Enix) released a porn game right?
Well he was probably a child then, so he probably doesn't know. Hopefully someone told him.
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>>315376198
Well I'm not gonna find a vita for less than $130 and that's just the system, so this is a clearly my cheapest option. $130 including the game is really good, and I'm the type of gamer who doesn't play many games but latches onto a series when i find one i like. It might be worth it to me to play these games.

I'll cart them now and think it over. I know I want to play the games.
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>>315376114
It doesn't matter who you put in, they're getting replaced by Kevin soon anyway.
>>315376274
If you actually used the kek queen over Kevin you're braindead.
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>>315376545
>released a porn game right?
What does that have to do with anything?

Falcom could have supported the Bin Laden in the 70s, who gives a fuck.

What matters is the shit they're doing now
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>>315376313
Pic related that i found online. I'm no expert but it looks like a normal hdmi to me
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>>315376545
>porn game
>Falcom
Anyone know where I can see this?
I would also like to know the porn games for Enix and Square too.
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>>315376731
he's probably bullshitting desu
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>>315376610
Idgaf about kevin. On the other hand, having kloe in my party with olivier makes a lot of sense storyline-wise. They both have some of the strongest motivation to be there. Right up with Estelle and Joshua themselves.
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>>315376301
It had the standard moe art style of two decades ago. Several scenes rely on the female cast acting cute for no reason.

It's moe.
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>>315376953
>several scenes rely on the female cast acting cute for no reason
Proof.
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>>315376953
>Several scenes rely on the female cast acting cute for no reason.
No.
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>>315376731

>>315376786
Nah it exists but it's too old to consider playing.
http://www.mobygames.com/game/joshi-daisei-private
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>>315377109
Alright bro, next time I see this dude on meiwa talking about how Falcom tainted Xanadu's name, I'll ask him if he played that.
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>>315376540
As usual, i spent most of then hitting them with aoes. If you didnt know tht theyd counter with map attacks, i doubt youd win first try in hard mode

>>315376274
Kloe isnt bad, but the last thing i need is another prty member made out of paper
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>>315377091
>>315377093

How about you guys play the game before talking about it?
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>>315377248
r u 'aving a giggle m8?
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>>315377248
I've played every english version of the game multiple times, bitchass.
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>>315376909
Kevin has the strongest motivation behind Estelle and Joshua and on-par with Olivier. Also he's not a total shit in combat like Kloze is, nor is he a boring kek. Have fun trying to beat Loewe without him unless you're on babby mode.
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>>315377236
>If you didnt know tht theyd counter with map attacks, i doubt youd win first try in hard mode
That's why you keep Heaven's Eye equipped. It's still incredibly useful at that points since the only other fire quartz are Attack and Seal.
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>>315377335
Then you should know what I'm talking about.

Just look at this shit and try to deny that it's moe. I dare you.
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Is Col Richard in jail?
Were they unable to get any useful information out of him?
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>>315377637
He's in jail for now.
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>>315377591
I said to post in-game proof where the game heavily relies on cute girls and actively panders to moe otaku.

Good luck with that btw
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>>315377829
Stop. He's not worth arguing with if he thinks >>315377591 is *in anyway* comparable to >>315374101

Don't let his stupidity engulf you, anon
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There needs to be a game where you get play as all the dominion members.
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>>315377365
>kevin has more motivation then kloe
Nigga no. Kevin is some guy that they randomly decided to introduce in sc and made him OP so people would play him. His motivation isn't obvious enough for me to give a fuck. On the other hand, kloe and olivier's nations are on the brink of war with each other.
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>>315322815
This looks awfully generic so I will probably pass.

Also my copy of Toukiden got lost in the mail.
I absolutely hate my Vita.
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>>315377829
I did.

>>315377909
This better then?

Reminder that this is in the game itself.
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>>315375809
You can find accessory against faint in the beginning of dungeon.
Just spam his highest level magic, he absolutely rapes everything here.
In fact, he will rape everything in the game.
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>>315378098
It's not part of the main story and can easily be missed/skipped. In fact it has to be specifically pursued to even see it
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>>315378098

Wow anon, that sure looks like a design MADE to push merchandise to moe otaku who sexualizes their characters and care nothing about what they represent, and not just fanservice that happens to be in the game!

You sure showed me! Lunar is definitely as bad, if not worse than neptunia, for being made exclusively to pander to moeshitters who buy merchandise of their favorite sexy characters. In fact, it was a game made to push merchandise to these pigs!

Lunar definitely was not an example of a game that tried to have a heart, no! It was nothing but a product to create more products!

Now I wonder where are all the pin-up tapestries and sexualized merch the game has spawned over the years...
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>>315378252
kek, dude's fighting an uphill

it's funny to see him try though
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>>315378232
>>315378252

The game includes lewd CG images of various girls in cute/sexy poses. If that's not moe pandering, then nothing is.
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>>315378376
Idk man
It feels like you're forcing a point and confusing fanservice with moepandering.

Let's put it like this
Lunar could remove all the fanservice and still be solid enough to stand on its own

Now if you remove all the cute girls from Sen and the several forced bath scenes, bikinis, lolicon fanservice, fujoshi fanservice (etc.) the game doesn't really have much to stand on its own
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>>315378531
I felt falc pushed all that shit lacking confidence in the main content

Not a bad strategy at all, hopefully it will backfire on them though
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>>315378531
>confusing fanservice with moepandering

Fanservice is how you pander to the moe crowd. They're essentially the same thing. Whether or not they're good games at the end of the day is irrelevant. If anything, Lunar proves that you can have a good game while still pandering to the moe crowd.

It's fine if someone wants to criticize a game because it's a bad game, but don't fault it for something so shallow, especially when even great games do the same thing.
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>>315376708
Yep, it is.
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>>315378075
Kevin is literally there to kill Weissman. It's his holy mission given to him by the Church. That's a more relevant reason for him to help pursue Ouroboros than the kek queen.
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>>315379119
Welp too bad for him.
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>>315379329
Have fun with Loewe
>>
I don't get why people hate Kloe so much. I'm not talking about gameplay right now, but as a character. There's literally no reason except the kek queen meme.
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>>315353106
>Zane and Kloe in the party

There's your problem
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>>315379595
Klozzze isn't bad, just boring. Everything about her is uninteresting and bland in a game full of far more interesting characters.
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>>315379595
>hate
I don't hate her, i'm sorry for her. She's pretty boring even though she's cute and she has no chance to be with the man she loves.

I think having that Capua girl in your party who switches between asshole tomboy behavior and upper class manners would've been funnier.
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>>315345026
I didn't think it was possible to be so backwards. How could you misinterpret "entitled" so hard
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>>315328532
>>315329298
Yeah, it's basically 90% VN.
It's got subs but for once, I don't get why they're dubbing it. I understand so for JRPGs that might have more mainstream appeal, but VNs and simulation games are as niche as it gets.
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>>315380401
>I think having that Capua girl in your party who switches between asshole tomboy behavior and upper class manners would've been funnier.

I got good news for you, you do in third chapter, start learning moon anon!
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