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ITT: Be good drones and believe Todd's lies I think FO4

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ITT: Be good drones and believe Todd's lies

I think FO4 looks amazing, I love the stylized graphics. Anyhow, graphics don't matter to me, Fallout is about the story, atmosphere and quests! Can't wait! :)
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I like how power armor works now desu
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Did YOU remembered to preorder, Anon?
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>>315309717

jesus christ anon, arent there enough fo4 threads?

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Its going to be alot of fun to play while im not over analyzing whats on the screen like some pretend elitist faggots around here
>muh graphics
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>>315310661
Sorry anon, this is the cycle of /v/ as soon as people are done shit posting about a new game they'll jump on the next big thing

the MGSV threads have mostly died out, and now people are full shitposting force on fallout 4 since it's a week away from release
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>>315309717
Is there going to be regular power armor? If not, JUST FUCK MY LORE UP FAMM
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I'll probably get it on PS4 when it's less than twenty dollars.
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>>315309717
>stylized graphics
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>graphics are not important

>he buys new consoles everytime

explain this shit OP
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> day 1
> steam
> can't wait

Why do all the fags on /v/ have bad opinions about vidya?
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I'm going to build a new PC just for Fallout 4.
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The great thing about any Beth game isn't playing the them, it's showing everyone online that I bought them
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>>315312886
They do not release new games on old consoles? Fucking duh.
Not even OP but you're stupid as fuck.
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>>315309717
So what if Bethesda releases the HD texture pack on PC alongside the game like they did with Skyrim? What will graphicsfags say then?
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>>315314580
>he spent 350 dorra to play fo3.2 with paid mods

Ps4 won't have mods

WHY I CAN'T PAY TO FIX MY GAME?

WHY BETHESDA?
WHY?
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>>315314987
It'll be ok little console kid.
Some day you'll get a job and you can buy a computer to play games on like all the other adults.
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>>315315250
>adult
>pays fo4
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>>315309717
I slightly feel bad my friend is giving me the Pip-boy edition for Christmas.
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>>315315603
why?
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I hope they've simplified the rpg elements. Can't stand modern over complicated rpgs.
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Remember when graphics whores were laughed at for liking pretty games with nothing to do, because gameplay is all that matters IN A GAME YOU PLAY?


Real /v/ remembers.
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>>315316057
Why don't you just say what you mean?
You can't stand RPGs.
Probably because you're dumb.
In my experience only dumb people don't like RPGs.
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While I'm astounded at the mediocre graphics and the terrible animations, they really do not matter to me in the end. Too bad the writing will be trash and so will the gameplay. And fuck the unnecessary dialogue wheel change.

No I'm not playing OP's game just expressing my very generic opinion
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>>315316190
but fiddleout 4 gameplay sucks too
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>>315316272
I wish it could be more like cod. Cod is a good rpg.
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>>315316382
How can you say that when its the exact same as FO3, and NV? Aside from the dialogue wheel, its fucking identical. You're probably that Facebook parrot that posts ebin /v/ screencaps who lacks the capability to form a personal opinion.
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>>315316419
Don't worry, they're doing their best to remove all that nasty player choice and story bullshit.
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>>315316591
>How can you say that when its the exact same as FO3, and NV?
Infact Fo3 is inferior to FO2
prove me wrong newfag

you can't
you didn't even play those games, did you?
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>>315316382
Totally false, of course, as is typical of Anon's posts here. He doesn't even know what the majority of the fans think of FO3. No one does as no research has been done on the subject. However, if we use the business success of the game and the overall reactions of industry personnel, critics, and consumers, we can easily see that the majority of people loved the game regardless of the qualities of the story or combat or any other factor that someone might focus on.

I'd suggest that any so-called "fan" who thinks that FO3 had a poor story may want to debate their viewpoint with Liam Neeson who stated that the story was "very good" and who has far more experience in evaluating such works than general consumers/players. Such "fans" may also want to create their own game with what they consider a superior story so that their viewpoint of what is superior can compete with Bethesda and others in the industry who actually work in this particular field. If they do not undertake such tasks, they surely have no grounds whatsoever to claim that FO3 or any other story in any game is somehow lacking, not as some type of objective fact or observation as they almost always claim. They are certainly free to state that a certain work wasn't their preference as that is merely voicing their opinion. That is entirely different than what we usually see posted here and many other places, though.

As for OP... FO3 was dark and serious, yes, as it was intended to be. However, it also had plenty of dark humor as Fallout has always had. FO4 hardly seems like the Sims in any way. Sims is a totally different type of game for a totally different audience/market. Closer comparisons can and have been made such as comparing FO4 (what we know so far, at least) to the original Bioshock (which was also very dark with very dark humor).
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>/v/ complains about game not being 'hardcore'
>most of /v/ were raised on mario shit and final fantasy
>most of /v/ loves anime
>most of /v/ has waifu's and husbandos
>most of /v/ do not function in the real world
>most of /v/ plays persona 5 and chinkychinkydesudesu 8 and considers them great
>/v/ will happily gobble up ugly indie shit labelled 'retro' 'i like the art style'
>general consensus is undertale is goat
>undertale

opinions discarded
>inb4 lel he doesn't like anime reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
will buy, will enjoy will cringe at threads posting a low res rock they found in the corner of a cave
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>>315317001
>giving /v/ that much credit
Most of /v/ are casual scrubs like you.
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>>315316837
"normal" gamers started playing videogames after 2007

I started playing videogamses 1989.
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>>315316787
I own every Fallout. Change the subject, offer no real rebuttal, and project as hard as possible. I almost forgot what board and year this was, thanks for the reminder.
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Post tfw you pre-ordered the game but all these threads and videos make you question your decision.
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>>315316995
nice pasta
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>>315309717
>Fallout
>story
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>>315316382
You've played it I forgot.
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>>315317324

nah, most people here spend more time shitting on games than they do actually playing anything
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>>315317260
>I own

sure anon
sure
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>>315316591
>exact same
Are you stupid?
>Voice protag preventing you from roleplaying
>Removal of any depth to the world thanks to the dialogue wheel
>Removed durability
>Removed karma system
>Removed factions
>Removed perk system
>Removed skill system
>Removed 8 years of advances in technology
These are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head. Others are welcome to contribute additional examples of things they've gutted from the game.

You're actually insane, Todd. I'm fairly sure you started believing your own lies at some point in time.
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>>315317127
How do you know because they are not bitching about everything in the game
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>>315314580

>Implying any of the games coming out now are actually worth buying

The amount of money that you've payed for the console, the games, the controllers, the online, the DLC, the season passes, etc. could've been spent on a PC that can play any game and emulate older consoles for free.
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>>315317426
>he's never played 1, 2 or new vegas
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>>315317482
Fuck off back to Reddit you stupid cunt, you're contributing just as much to this board as the mindless shitposters with this retarded meme.
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>>315315603
Sell it on ebay
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>>315317562
Because videogames died after 2007 how fucking new are you?
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>Graphic suck

>but anon Bethesda has never being cutting edge

>Gameplay is literally COD tier with no RPG elements from the past

>but anon have you played it?

bethmarketters in full damage control
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>Fallout isn't about the graphics
>Fallout isn't about the story
>Fallout isn't about the characters
>Fallout isn't about the gameplay

What the fuck is Fallout about then? Preordering?
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>>315317670
>not buying it and selling it for more afterwards
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>>315317791
YES

Maximize marketing, gotta get them pre-orders rolling.
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>>315317759
>i watched a video and here's my full review all other opinions discarded
lol
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>>315317791
The duck do you here this at
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>>315317410
thanks it's straight from the official forums, there's legitimately people who write shit like this and an animu fag who uses meme arrows there everyday.
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>>315317759
>marketers come to /v/
I think you need to check your privilege desu lads
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>>315317791
Fallout is about atmosphere, exploration and replayable roleplaying experiences.
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>>315317695

keep on being butthurt shill, you know you don't play shit
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>>315317981
>You need to play the entire fucking game to know what features are clearly missing
How much do they pay you for this shit?
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>>315317981
>a video
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>>315318091
>marketers going to places where lots of people will see your product for free

i guess no ;^)
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>>315317791
Top-tier mucking about simulators.
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All shitposting aside, at least Bethesda has given up trying to make an RPG and have committed to making it an action game first, so the shooting and combat will feel much better. I'll consider it a Fallout spinoff, like Tactics or something.
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>>315318168

obviously you do, that's like watching a video of a fucking car and then saying "I don't like how this car drives, I know because I watched a video and it's basically like I drove it myself"
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>>315317001
Underrated post
Keking at faggots over analyzing a stone
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>>315318192
this is actually one of the most fun things i've seen in a videogame in a long time.

bethesda really fucking suck. just look how fucking lifeless everything is.
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>>315317556
>voiced protag preventing roleplaying
Really? Sounds like it's your imagination that's shit.

>removed factions
This is bullshit, three joinable factions are already confirmed.

>removed karma system
Again, bullshit. Different functionality does not equal removal.

You're actually insane, /v/. I'm fairly sure your expectations and standards exceeded reality at some point in time.
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>>315317556
Pretty much all of this is false
Are you really trying to bait that hard
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>>315318192
looks like a wile coyote skit
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>>315318106
> replayable roleplaying experiences

>Bethesda game design
>Roleplaying
>Replayability

In what world? Bethesda's quests always end up being linear as fuck and, just like Skyrim, you can max out all stats in Fallout 4 so there's no real roleplaying going on.
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>>315317525
1&2 for free from GoG, 3 and NV on steam, tactics doesn't count because that game actually is shit.
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>>315317670
You could have sold that shit for more m8
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>>315318168
>>315318192
>Look guize check this dog webm and so much shit is missing from these 30 minutes of gameplay I have seen to summarize the whole game is shit I will continue to shout from my soapbox how bad it is the thread will 404, people who are going to play it will play it and I will wait for another fallout 4 hate thread to pop up so I can continue my crusade because it's very important

Going to be awesome, enjoy being a grumpy prick who can't have fun
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>>315317556

To add to the removed list, they removed ammo types and damage threshold functionality as well.
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>>315318649
Do you even roleplay?
You have to put limits on YOURSELF knob gobbler
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>>315318751
lmfao
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>>315318751
tl;dr
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>>315317001
>chinkychinkydesudesu
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>>315318771
>they removed ammo types
What? Really?
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>>315318802
>You have to put limits on YOURSELF knob gobbler

This is video gaming in 2015.
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>>315318928
I know you read it
continue your crusade and godspeed anon
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>>315318649
I was pointing out why people liked FO1 & 2 and why people loved them enough for the franchise to be resurrected. I agree that Bethesda is going the wrong direction with their Fallouts.
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>>315318802
And better roleplaying games let you roleplay with decent quest design. Fuck off Todd.
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>>315319109
heh
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>>315318771
Ammo types, DT, and the faction system were in new vegas. They were never part of gamebryo or the creation engine and not adding them is not the same as removing them.

Bethesda has a history of removing features instead of streamlining/improving upon the but this is not one of those cases.
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>>315319109
>why doesn't my in-game dog running on a 4000 year old engine not look as good as a pre-rendered cutscene dog running on an engine built over the past 8 years on a multi million dollar budget

Bethesda is shit but you're a retard.
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>>315319109

>>315319251
that's not fair
DD is a wolf
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>>315317001
I'm on the fence about F4 and will see where I stand once it comes out. But that is not important because I bought Undertale and I want to blog about it.
This game has literally, unironically been called a masterpiece and GOTY about a million times everywhere, all over, and I cannot fathom why.
I never read any spoilers, I did it all blind. I did two playthroughs, trying to figure out what I was missing.
I do not understand the hype.
>but if you kill the momonster and spare her the next time the flower's dialogue changes!
Great. Fine. It's still a tedious, unfunny, flat game. I like some aspects, especially what happens when you just haul off and murder people, and the part where the flower gives you shit if you spare that momonster after killing her the first time is kind of neat, but none of this qualifies as exactly "groundbreaking, GOTY, 10/10, perfect in every way" in my perceptions.
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>>315319303

It may be a technicality, but taking a step back from the last mainline Fallout game is still a slap in the face for players. Bethesda had no issues adopting weapon mods, which Obsidian added in NV. Bethesda just seems like they're trimming the fat with mechanics, slimming down the game to be as simple as possible.

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>pre-rendered

Everything in MGSV is real time.
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>>315319372
> pre-rendered

Bethesda Guide to Shillpost
Answer n.213
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I just know I'm gonna end up buying it at the last minute before release just like with Skyrim. Especially since I'm making a little more scratch now and nothing else is interesting me coming out this month.
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>>315319598
>idiots who can't tell this is from the trailer
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I thank bethesda for giving us a blank slate to make our own vision from. Every good game requires mods to look good, and they are the best at it.

Thanks bethesda, another canvas for us to make complete.
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>>315309717
JUST
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>>315319849
Too bad mods will never fix the terrible animation system, which ruins 95% of the immersion.
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>>315319598
here's an in game shot
don't get me started on the desert aka open world
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>>315319735
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>>315315603
I think the most my friends have ever spent on me has been like $20
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>>315320042
that's pretty darn good to be desu
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>>315320042
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>>315320047
>an empty world where the tiny amount of things in it look good

Thank god for kojima, he made all six objects in his game look 4% better than fo4 with only 4 extra years of work!
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>>315317001
>most of /v/ likes kingdom hearts

I still laugh about that
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>>315319569
Most of the benefits of ammo types were dependent on the existence of DT either by negating it or multiplying it in exchange for increased damage. Without DT there are few instances where special ammo types are useful. The removal of weapon maintenance makes surplus ammo useless as well.

>taking a step back
>slap in the face
>trimming the fat with mechanics
As I've said, they didn't "remove" those features. They chose not to add them. I can't say that I won't miss 12 gauge slug rounds, but it's unreasonable to act as if Bethesda didn't include them purely to spite me.
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I actually feel sorry that people who are genuinely hyped about this garbage.

I don't understand the appeal of yet, another shooter, set in wasteland which enables laziness from the devs whilst once again, using the same engine it used half a decade ago because of laziness. All this while it looks like a ps2 game, has the most lazy ugly looking UI and has been safe treated by SJW's for cultural diversity. Everything looks like shit.

No idea why so many people have bad taste in games tbḥ
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So is traditional power armour like the T-51b in the game or has it just become nonexistant?
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>>315320467
>my game is bigger than yours

you must be 18+ to post here anon
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>>315320202
ugly as fuck, no shadows low res everywhere, painted with the diarrhea gun
>>315320374
Is that alpha? pretty barren and ugly, don't see the need for 'sort of open world' when there's literally nothing to do except navigate to the next checkpoint
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>>315316382
This.

It's gonna be shit, guys, just accept it.
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>>315320510
dude dont you know, you have to patch it with mods to make it good? It's not a false positive I swear the game is just designed so you have to re-desing it yourself to make it tolerabe!
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Honestly the only thing I'm somewhat interested in is the settlement creation and management. Running brahmin caravans between outposts you create sounds fun to mess around with, but ultimately I know Bethesda has fucked it up somehow.
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Anyone have that screenshot with all the perks with full text? I can't find it through google-fu.
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>>315318091
You must be new. They've been coming here since TORtanic.
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>>315320930
>guize TORtanic I've been here for a couple years now I'm not new
that's you
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ANOTHER FALLOUT THREAD?

CAN FUCKING DUDEBRO PLEASE GET OFF MY WEEB /V/EE?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>315319109
>Ingame vs prerendered bullshit in a tiny ass helicopter

We both know DD looks like shit ingame.
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>>315320824
I'm guessing that the caravans are nonessential yet cannot be replaced, so you end up losing all of your caravan slots to deathclaws. It would be similar to the 4 merchant caravans from fallout 3.
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>colorful paint on everything
>after multiple nukes

well, i think they could at least make the wasteland as it should be
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>>315320921

Here you go senpai
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>>315321134
I think we need to purge you cunts

all you do is circlejerk pedo weeb shit disguised as vidya. fuck off to /pedo/ and stop making this place not vidya
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>>315321409
>SAYING THIS, ON 4CHAN NO LESS

FUCKING DUDEBRO LEAVEEEEEEE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>315319598
everything in the heli is prerendered you dumb fucking cunt.
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>>315321738
You don't know what prerendered means.
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>>315321738
>he doesn't know what pre rendered means

I took the b8 and replied
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>>315321636
ebin :^)
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>>315321738
>wat is prerendered: the post

press ctrl+w, fast
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>>315321738
>pre-rendered
>can free move the camera around and interact with things

Hmm...they must have invented a new technology to let players interact with videos. Bravo Kojima.
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>>315321939
You can do the same in VR shit, doesnt mean it isnt all prerendered crap.
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>>315317591
Games, dlc, and controllers are free on pc??? Holy fuck that's awesome!
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>>315322149
The helicoptor scenes in phantom pain are gameplay you retarded faggot.
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Guys!

Fallout 4 it's good
It's just not....

pre-rendered
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>>315322167
If you pirate, yes.
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>>315321939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gjR60TSn8Q
kinda related

you can move the camera while the vid plays it's awesome
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>>315322167

Piracy, Piracy, and Kb+M.
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>>315317759

>no RPG elements from the past

What RPG elements are missing?
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>>315322167
console game prices are way, way WAY higher than pc where I live.
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>>315321370
Its 200 years later

Atleast they didn't keep the ugly ass green sky
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>>315322448
this is getting beyond retarded now
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>>315322149
That's a video recorded in 360 degrees. You're not interacting with shit. Doesn't change the fact that phantom pain heli isn't a cutscene, fucking retard.
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>>315320485
Thank you, you lifted a heavy weight on my mind. I loved the different ammo types and didn't want to let them go, but your points that you made, helped me see a different light.
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>>315322496

The big one is that they removed skills from the game. Unlimited levels/perk points is a controversial move as well, since there's no risk/reward in developing your character as you will eventually have all stats maxed out.
>>
Are you guys pirating or buying the game?

http://strawpoll.me/5914077
http://strawpoll.me/5914077
http://strawpoll.me/5914077
http://strawpoll.me/5914077
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>>315322775
There must be some move to balance this shit out. Not even Bethesda is that retarded.
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>>315320716
>my game is prettier (not really) than yours

Are you a hypocrite or just dumb?
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>>315322775

Skills have effectively been merged into the perks. This system is superior for specialization as it means you don't have to wait til like, level 12 to be a shotgun specialist.

Once again, how have "all the RPG mechanics" been removed?
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>>315322823
>losing precious space for my porn
nah
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>>315322919
Unlimited levels is really bad and lame though.
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>>315323006
>not owning multiple 2TB drives for media storage
Do you even hoard?
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>>315322913
I was just replying to him

check all the posts
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>>315323093

Just don't put points in perks after you've gotten what you've wanted.
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>>315319109
Funny how MGSV turned out to be shit. Graphics aren't everything senpai.
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>>315322775
>there's no risk/reward in developing your character as you will eventually have all stats maxed out.
I maxed out my character in Fallout 3 without trying. I don't think that much has really changed.

I'm actually pretty thankful that accuracy is no longer tied to weapon skill. The game might actually be playable outside of vats.
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>>315318192
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>>315309717
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>>315323717
I love 60fps games
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>>315322436
>>315322453

Oh, well what if I'm not a thieving little bitch who can afford to just buy shit? Also, kbm are free with pcs?
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>>315314987
Sorry to break it to yoy, but mods are no longer to be paid for :^]
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>>315318998
Exactly.
THIS is video gaming 2015
Not what you have built in your head.
This game is the best that can be done in the time allotted.
Dont think so? Where is your game?
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>>315319207
Like you could design a quest?
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>>315317695

stay mad faggot
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>>315325132
>This game is the best that can be done*
>*within the time limit

Having to put a qualifying statement on the end of a Bethesda game is standard practice. Fallout 4 has good graphics*
*for a game on a 10 year old engine
Skyrim was a great game*
*with their budget
Morrowind is a top notch RPG*
*for the time
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>>315325629
Pretty coherent post
*For an autist
Stay mad fpsfag
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>>315317627
None of them was made by Bethesda.
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>>315325546

Looks like you're out of time
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>>315325885
got nothin but time on his hands
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>>315325792

Umm, back the fuck off?!
>>
Remember how everyone was shitting on witcher 3 before it came out.
I do. Because i backed it saying it was going to be great.
Low and behold its a big stinking pile of boring ass linear
Fallout is going to make witcher look even worse than it already is
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>>315326030
No
>muh fps
>muh draw distance
Kekidy kek kek
Games gonna be friggin sweet
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I want to buy this game at launch but I also want to wait for the mod community to develop first
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>>315325976
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>>315325132
>This game is the best that can be done in the time allotted.
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>>315325353
Like the quests allow you to roleplay within them without having to handicap yourself. It's pretty simple Todd.
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have they shown any non feral ghouls yet?
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why is every complaining about graphics? that's not an issue mods cant fix

the animations is the biggest problem about this game. The creation engine is just too old, the movment feels clunky just like skyrim, fo3, NV.

mods wont be able to make them good
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>>315314987
>Ps4 won't have mods
Mods are already confirmed for PS4.
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>>315309717
>graphics don't matter to me, Fallout is about the story, atmosphere and quests
But this is true
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>>315326597
Good comeback
Well memed
Where is your enhanced version?
Im waiting...
Top kek
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>>315328612
>you cant make better so no one can
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>>315327306
Who is todd
Also still waiting for your quest
Are you done yet?
Can it run 184847362717373fps?
Top kek
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>>315325132
>>315323220
>>315318802

If I have to make up all of the rules myself why am I even playing the game? I'll just go sit in a cardboard box and make up a better game in my head.
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>>315328695
>implying
Top kek
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>>315327723
Just like they confirmed mods for Unreal Tournament 3 on ps3?
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>>315328740
The quests in Planescape Torment and Baldur's Gate, or even the first two Fallout games.
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>>315328808
You do just that
Ima have fun regardless
Top kek
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>>315329016
You cant just make up fake games and say you had a part in it
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>>315309717
I don't really see why people are up in arms about the graphics. Bethesda has never been known for good graphics
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>>315317753
Why are you still here then?
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>>315329150
I never said I would create the games, just that dozens of RPG's have better quest design.
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>>315329212
Shitposters have nothing to latch onto, so they cling desperately to graphics that don't even look bad in desperation.
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>>315327560
This is my gripe with it. Characters still have that "I just shit my fucking pants gotta get to the bathroom before the rest comes out." running animation.
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>>315329398
The animations are absolutely horrendous.
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>>315328882
>"We architecture our system so that mods work. They work on Skyrim if you can get them on a console, Oblivion aswell. And Fallout 3. But there’s no way of getting them there. There’s still a lot of work to do. It’s going to come out on PC first, then they’ll move to Xbox One, then to PS4. There is a lot of work involved getting them onto each system."
Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gaming/what-to-play/fallout-4-interview-bethesda-todd-howard-on-building-the-apocalypse/

Considering that console mods have been a huge part of the PR for this game, I don't suddenly think they're going to scrap them.
This isn't to imply they'll be any good or worth a fuck, but that they will in fact exist on both Xbox One and PS4, as well as PC.
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>>315329212
>Bethesda has never been known for good graphics
>Bethesda always had a shitty work on graphics so it's fine
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>>315329645
Much like UT3 on ps3, it will require a fuckload more work to get a mod functioning on the console versions. You will get a few token mods that don't do much while everyone makes shit for pc.
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>>315329212
I'd rather have Fallout 3 graphics 2bh
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>>315329938
Doesn't matter, that's not what the conversation was about.

Another anon said mods weren't coming to PS4, I corrected him.
Whether or not the mods will be shit, or few and far between is irrelevant. There will be mods.
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>>315330208
>that's not what the conversation was about.
Which is why I was starting a new one about what the mods will likely be. It's going to be a fucking joke anon.
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>>315330435
Ok.
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>>315330614
Glad you agree.
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I legitimately don't care about the dated graphics. They are more than good enough for me.

I am a bit sorry to see the skills go, but honestly, I don't think we're losing *too* much on that front either. I can live with the new system there.
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