>Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain has proven to be a hit,

>stretch goal: joost

All my money

I'm not going to beg for games, especially from Kike-ami.

No.

What would MGS6 even be about?

Hopefully konami knows how not to make another shit tier meta gay shit game

>>315267348
>According to today’s Nikkei, the Tokyo-based fitness company has began internal talks about the next Metal Gear title.
>fitness

wtf

>>315267513

Solid Snake returning as a cyborg to take down edgelord Raiden post-Revengeance.

>>315267348
>Konami
I'm not going to pay them to shit all over the franchise. Are you serious?

>>315267348
After what they did with MGSV, never.

MGS is ded, let it rip.

>>315267575
Revengeance isn't canon.

>>315267348
Erm, sure if they improved the gameplay, though it would have to be very very impressive for me to give any money for a kickstarter.

>>315267513
It'll be the other half released of MGSV repackaged as Twin Ground Heros.

>5m

Man that's pretty bad for how much of a legacy that franchise has and how long it was in development.

No, and I say this as a longtime MGS fan. Let it die already.

>>315267513
The Boss in WWII fighting parasiteHitler in a Nazi Gear while giving birth to Ocelot

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>people replying seriously to this thread with no source.

Is Kotaku shilling on /v/ now? I see threads with Kotaku articles everyday now. Fuck Gawker, seriously

>>315267638
>Revengeance isn't canon.
:^)

>>315267575
lame

snake is the epitome of flesh

>>315267683
Fuck off autist, you can stop trying to fit in as well.

>>315267661
That would be interesting, but would it be necessary. Each major title kind of needs some sort of lore-related implications of the series as a whole to justify its own existence and I don't really know how they would pull that off with the Boss in WWII

>>315267601
>>315267454
>>315267508

>wahhhhhh why don't devs make good games anymore
>dev offers to make a good game if you show some support
>refuse and instead hurl vitriol

This is why devs focus on casual shit now you fucking ingrates

>>315267513
Its based in the WTC and you have to sneak from bottom to top placing explosives

>>315267770
Hambeast pls go.

>>315267513
I'm not if anyone but Kojima could do it. The story is so crazy that only he can make it work somehow. Rising was a casual take on the lore but even they couldn't really understand it.

>>315267638
Naiso memu.

>>315267348
it's okay, it's okay. kojimba will buy the rights to the series and finally make the real mgs5

>>315267681

http://anago.2ch.sc/test/read.cgi/ghard/1446475707/

>>315267770
I have standards. Sorry

>>315267886
>I have standards
Then why are you posting on the shithole of the internet?

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>apparently on vacation
They are going to kill him and make it look like a suicide

>>315267561

Konami was a gym group originally investing in physical fitness clubs before moving into things like toys, then gambling machines and finally gaming.

All the same though, fuck them.

>>315267348

>Kickstart
>Help Kickstart a project for an AAA publisher
>Essentially pay to make the game while the publish soaks in 100% pure profit

No

>>315267513
Would probably take place between MGS1 and 2 with Snake and Otacon destroying MGs all around the world.

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>>315267348
>the Tokyo-based fitness company

>>315267638
>Revengeance isn't canon.
This is my favorite meme.

>>315267575
Snake is already dead.
Also why would he go after Raiden when he is hunting down organizations that create child soldiers?

>>315267998
Must be nice being a bandwagonning faggot

>>315267513
they"cut snake head and made him a cyborg

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>>315267348
Not without Kojima working on it, and even then it's iffy. MGSV had so much micro-transaction shit so i can only imagine that Konami would find a way to jew it up even more if the series continued.

What I want from Kojima now is a Zone of the Enders 3, that'd be rad.

No. MGS is dead to me. It had been since 4 and TPP was a disaster

>>315267638
>>315267835
>>315267715
Where does Revengeance lie anyway? I've heard both canon and noncanon and a couple people say it's a 'what if' alternate timeline. Like if a mission went wrong somewhere, Revengeance would be the result. If the mission went off without a hitch it wouldn't have happened.

They already developed the Fox engine, it shouldn't be too costly to shit out another game using the same engine.

>>315267942
Konami is going to send his old apprentice to assassinate him in a recreation of MGS1's development.

MGSVI will only work if they get rid of Kojima. He's the fucking Japanese Tim Schaffer. He can't handle budgets or the business side of games. Konami should just sell or license it out to Activision if they want it to be successful

>>315268043
U wot m8

>>315267513
Les Enfants Terribles 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Now with 20% more Solidus.

>>315267795
Konami only made good games by accident because they somehow didn't make working conditions shitty enough for the teams that went on to do something worthwhile. They're not worth dickriding on name alone.

>>315267795
All the support a company needs is to make games and sell them. If selling 5m isn't enough, then RIP MGS.

>>315267348
F U C K
U
C
K O N A M I

>>315268135
I think Kojima has to be on a leash. Somebody has to hold him off on his ambitions, that way he can create something good. But now, I'm afraid, he's too far up his own arse for his own good.

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>>315268093
It lies a few years after MGS4.

I have no fucking idea why people are saying it's non-canon, as it doesn't seem to do anything that breaks it.

>>315268093
Mgr happens years after mgs4
He stoped foghting for what he believes and started a security company because his family still needs to eat

That faggot Razorfist was right. It was a rus3 all along and Kojima is not leaving Konami.

>>315267447
I'd like to stretch her goal ;)

>>315268187
Jim sterling represent!! XDXDXD

>>>/reddit/

>>315267348
>Hypothetically speaking, would you guys donate to a MGSVI kickstarter if it meant the series would continue on?

Not sure about donating anything but zero interest unless I get confirmation that Kojima doesn't fucking touch the game anymore

>>315267513
You play as Liquidis Snake, a failed abortion from the les enfants terribles project, who sports two eyepatches and a hefty dose of autism.

>>315267513

I'm hype solely because of Fox engine, it depends a lot if Kojima will be directing though, otherwise it will be another Dark Souls 2.

>>315267513
Maybe about liquid

I'm making assumptions here;
-Kojima is under a hush order or something via contract reasons or something
-Konami did this because they don't want other companies trying to snatch up a big name such as that right up. I don't know why, though, as they're not even sure what they want to do for consoles/pc.

>>315267348
Id rather have them just make Foxengine open to other developers.

>>315267348
What? Is Konami planning to buy Fox Engine to milk the shit out of it?

>>315267513
Remakes of MG 1 and 2

>>315267513
The missing link in the Metal Gear Story about Big Boss's fall from a hero to a villain, for realsies. :^)

Does the next game honestly need to have that big of a budget? I'm more than willing to see how another game fairs when you take Kojima out of the equation.

>>315268638
If I am not mistaken Konami allready owns the rights to the engine

>>315268675
Yeah, really.

BB's actual story is more interesting than his phantom's story.

>>315268638
Dude, they own it. It was developed in their house.

>>315267513
You play as old Kaz defending himself from the assassins who tried to kill him.

In the end you die
The game is 20 minutes long because Konami ran out of money

You'd still preorder it

>inb4 MGS 6 is literally just the scraps of chapter 3

>>315268841
the Kingdom of the Flies mission?

>>315267348
Daily reminder that we got MGS V, not MGS5.

V as in Venom. Kojima insists in it being called V instead of 5. It is not a numbered sequel.

Metal Gear Solid Vee

>>315268768
>>315268675
What's there to actually say, though? He built Outer Heaven and went crazy, that's pretty much all there is, unless you're looking for a story that would be incredibly self-contained because nothing is going to inherently matter in that game other than Big Boss going crazy. The villain himself will just be another disposable figure who'll never be referenced in the canon, ever.

I hope not.

>>315267348
>>Seeing how Konami took Kojima’s name off The Phantom Pain’s box art, dissolved his studio, and canned Silent Hills, it’s hard to see him staying on.

>This is journalism in 2015


Shut the fuck up nobody cares about you or your shitty opinion Brian just write down the fucking news.

>>315267513
solid vs venom.

>>315268934
Kotaku isn't a news site.

It's a shitty excuse as they totally fucking try to do it, but legally that's why it's the way it is.

>>315268991
So, a remake of Metal Gear 1, yes?

>>315268886
I cant imagine theres only that. They must have planned to do more with that island than just the sally fight. Sally is obviously the last mission of that zone but I imagine that there are more mission concidering XOF is at the island too

>>315267638
>Implying MGS6 will be canon

Id rather they finished the one we just got. Give up back an entire chapter 3 and finish the fucking story.

Fuck no.

>>315268419
Not him, but are you seriously defending the company that decided to stop making games and instead make pachinko machines?

>>315268043
>>315268141
He called you out on liking RWBY.

>>315268926
Foxhound (ie, back in the US), Iraq, Zanzibar, etc.

Basically, a MGSV that actually fits already canon events, not what amounts to a footnote in the timeline.

>>315269068
yes, mite be cool.

>>315268542
This would be shit. It was retarded when they stupidly tried to turn Big Boss and Ocelot into the good guys.

>>315269104
Footage shows him sneaking into the island to find Eli and the kids, then fighting Sally.

If anything, it'd just be the two missions and post-game free roam on it.

>>315269191
Nah Konami is dead to me but all that FucKonami bullshit just because that fat fuck is blacklisted by konami is just annoying

>>315267348
What they should do is allow MGSV to be finished. They have so much of it finished. I just don't understand them. Get a small team together to fucking finish it.
Konami want out of games so the can focus on gambling and Vegas deals that will make them billions, but now that MGSV was a success, they want back into video games? They could have done both. With over eighty billion dollardoos coming into the company they could easily make more games without ever worrying about cost. I just don't understand why they have to have such singular focus.
I really don't want a Metal Gear without all the people that make Metal Gear enjoyable. Let the property rest. It's had a hard life.

>>315267795
>Have to pay devs to start developing a game
>No promises about quality or fucking anything
>Might still have to buy the game later

Kickstarter is fucking terrible, and only a fool would throw money at a theoretical concept before it has been fleshed out. Donating to convince them to think about making another game is beyond retarded

>>315267575
>implying next game won't be revengeance 2 focusing on Raiden having to track down and defeat a Metal Gear version of solid snake
FINAL MISSION: DEFEAT METAL GEAR SOLID

>>315269104
They should just make a DLC out of it. They could charge a cool 60 bucks and won't even need to spend a lot on development.

>>315269257
Would they even be able to build a three act storyline around that, though? There isn't really all that much to go off from what you've said.
I can't see it really going anywhere other than stating that 'Big Boss found Zanzibarland and see it for yourself'.

There isn't really much to fundamentally say storywise, other than stating the obvious by showing things people are already aware of in the lore.

>>315269503
>60 bucks for what amounts to two missions

man fuck off

>>315269297
I cant see why it has to be about how liquid is a good guy. Theres lots of things you could to to expand on liquid. For example it could be about his mission in Afghanistan.

>>315269503
>60 dollars for DLC
would you seriously pay that much money?

>>315267654
The game is still selling every week. It has legs. Konami made back everything they invested into the game literally overnight.
Anecdotal evidence: Stores around me are still having trouble keeping the game in stock. It's crazy.

>>315269468

No you fight the "Ultimate snake".

>Has the abilities of all the snakes.
>Has solids Octo camouflage and uses cigs in his tactics.
>Uses all the tricks of naked snake, like using ethnol to knock you out
>Jumps like liquid
>Rocket arm like Venom
>Uses a sword to deflect bullets like Raiden
>Infinity ammo banda
>Can take apart weapons like the boss.
>Has tentacle arm CQC like Solidus.

>>315267348
>Seeing how Konami took Kojima’s name off The Phantom Pain’s box art, dissolved his studio, and canned Silent Hills, it’s hard to see him staying on.
I like how there's not a single shed of proof that this is what happened and this faggot here is passing rumours as fact a mere 3 months later. Vidya journalism is a joke.

>>315267683
That's kind of how it has been for fucking years guy.

>>315269639
Except MGS themes are always anti war. Therefore it's impossible they will give you a game without an option to do a no kill run. Why the fuck would Liquid want to do that?

>>315269758
>I like how there's not a single shed of proof that this is what happened
As shit as Kotaku is, this all did fucking happen. They're just spouting what is common knowledge now.

>>315269684
If it means I finally get the ending.

>>315269852
Source of Konami confirming this

>>315267348
I want nothing more for it to die.

I want Kojima to move on.

>>315269852
>common knowledge

Rumours a few months later dont become any more truthful nigga. There's been nothing said on the matter by Konami other than leaked corporate info describing a restructuring and Kojima and Kojipro being on a break.

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Use the fox engine to recreate MGS1 and 2.

>>315270026
No.

Stop being casuals and play the fucking original games, especially since they've been cleaned up already.

>>315267348
>would you guys donate to a MGSVI kickstarter

No, MGSV shat all over me. Fuck em.

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>>315269818
>MGS themes are always anti war

wut

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Considering how cut and dry the original MSX games were, remakes of them might work. Or even have each operation be half of the game and have it be all huge complex infiltration goodness in the fox engine, none of the open world shit. Have bro ops with Gray Fox during the first half of the game which then culminates in the mine field fight in the second half for muh feels. Poke some fun at how silly Big Medic is and it'd have a good chance of being a good game, especially without Kojimas hamfisted messages.

>>315267513

The 60% of TPP that was cut.

>>315267795
Whose asking for 'good' games here?
Literally WHOOOOOOOO?
No one cares about your lust for gamecock faggot, none of us PLAY video games.

>>315267348
No. I'm still waiting for the rest of my fucking The Phantom Pain game

>>315269426

Konami was never planning to leave making games, they just fired Kojima because he was an awful VP who was wasting huge amounts of money.

They canceled Silent Hills because it was going to be another huge money pit. There is no reason to waste money on risky projects when they can just make mobile shit that prints money.

MGS managed to sell well enough to make a profit so they are going ahead with that series. They might even keep Kojima along so his mindless fanboys can be happy.

>>315267348
They can't possibly believe that these Kojima cocksuckers would ever buy a MGS game without him directing it.

It would be a disaster of a launch.

>>315267513
Raiden circa 2009-2014, Rescuing Sunny and Recovering Big Boss' Remains for the PLA.

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>>315267348
>yfw MGS6 turns out to be a masterpiece because Kojimbo is out and a properly talented writer/director who isn't senile at 50yo revives Metal Gear
>yfw it's a remake of the first MGS and you play as Solid
>yfw it will never happen

>>315270283
Rising did really well. The hardcore fans are slowly starting to like it for it's own merits. This means someone else could do pretty well if they got their hands on the franchise.

>>315268135
Jesus Christ. He was Vice President of Konami Digital Entertainment. He clearly can handle finance. It is just that the people at the top of Konami are old money retards that don't understand how much a 'AAA' title costs. They were angry that he spent $81 million dollars on MGSV. That included the cost of the fucking FOX ENGINE.

>>315267348
>implying anybody is going to buy another metal gear game after giving us an incomplete game
maybe only PS4 faggots considering they buy remastered games that only came last gen

>>315270383
There is a difference between Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Rising. I wouldn't want Platinum in charge of MGS, I barely want them in charge of MGR2.

That being said I would buy MGS6 with or without Kojima. Portable Ops was better than Peace Walker and 3, sorry and Kojima being salty about it is evident of what a crackjob he is.

>>315270456
10/10 everywhere and even the jaded said the gameplay was pretty good, if repetitive. People will get it. IGN et al will hype that shit up.

>>315270283

Every single review agreed that the worst part of MGSV was the story. Konami has been building a consensus in which everyone accepts that Kojima was a shit writer all along.

Because he was a shit writer all along. And most sensible people are now accepting that fact.

>>315270078
they are

>>315270383
But that was a spinoff originally headed by Kojima until he passed it off to Platinum. Maybe the Rising series can continue, but MGS is done without Kojima. His fans won't betray him.

>>315270558
Oh god, I wouldn't want platinum doing a "solid" game, I just meant a precedent has been set where the fans find others doing metal gear acceptable.

>>315270426

He would have spent a lot more if he wasnt fired.

>>315267937
/v/ is the best place in the internet.

>>315270604
>Every single review agreed that the worst part of MGSV was the story
the lack of it?

>>315270639
Early on he had control, I'm pretty sure later he gave full control to platinum which is why the game turned out so differently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okQv5zSSfOk

>>315268225
That's just it. It doesn't affect anything concerning the MGS mythos so it's none canon by default.

>>315270639

The silent majority doesnt care about Kojimbo.

>>315268612
A gag order is standard practice when you 'let a high level employee with trade secrets' go. They don't want him to be able to immediately form a competing company, or join an existing company and start work on another game/game engine.

>>315270274

Agreed about Kojima. There's 3 people in this industry that should always have a retard wrangler to stop them going full retard.

Kojima, Kamiya and Nomura. The holy trinity of people who should never be solely in charge of a project or franchise.

>>315270740
>Sunny
>Raiden
>Hal

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>>315269468
FFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>315270710

The intro is the most story-heavy part of the game and its also the worst part of it.

Metal Gear Rising 2 will be about the continued adventures of Raiden and the advent of metatron, a new substance found out by mars that has lead to great techonlogical advancement.

My heart fucking sank from 'Eliminate the Tank Unit Side Op - 01'

>>315267654
>5 mil sold in less than a month and a half
>game is still selling
>on track to be the best selling MG of all time

>pretty bad

Just fuck off cûck

>>315270791
That's not a gag order retard, that's a non-compete, and they're largely unenforceable

>>315267795
Or maybe I want them to finish their last game before they start thinking of soulless sequels

>>315270840
You mean the tutorial?

What the fuck. I thought Konami was moving away from video games because they wer too big a investement. Did MGS 5's sales surprise them?

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>This is the enemy, and he's here on his knees!

>>315270773
Maybe you're right. Perhaps they could even build a new cult around a new director. One that can actually write semi decently.

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>>315270938
>Believing clickbait sites
>Believing /v/
>Believing /v/ posting links to clickbait sites

Did you hear? Konami HQ is on fire, right now.

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>>315270353
>the first MGS
>not Kojimbo

>>315270928

You dont learn jackshit in the intro.

>>315271076
It goes over the basic controls and such.

>>315270907
>5 platforms
>the one platform that matters its undertraking against 4

Git fucked son

>>315270793
>not Schafer
>not Molyneux
Ayyylmao

>>315270994

Murata and Tamari are both better writers than Kojima. They can work well on their own without needing supervision to not go full retard either.

>>315271196
Not Japanese. They are the Western equivalents though.

>>315267513
2nd 1/2 of MSGV or some mission between MSG1 and MGS2

>>315267348
Never

>>315267348

haha no

>>315271138
>muh changing goalposts
>ignoring the other points

You been rekt, dicksplash.
Fuck

>>315271131

You can learn the basic controls in 5 minutes, the intro takes more than an hour.

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>>315270353
Yeah, because the last MGS without Kojima was sooooo great

>>315271196
They literally don't matter anon. You should know better.

>>315270105
> cut and dry
Metal Gear 2 beats MGS1 on every aspect except the story.

>>315267513
How about what the fuck MGSVI was advertised about, Big Boss road to hell as he became an ethically depraved soldier who started using child soldier because why the fuck not, instead of the Good Guy Venom who wouldn't let a kid die to save his life.

I can see it in front of me.

"In MGSV, we have Big Bossu and Venom, we have vee and i, where you are vee and i am i, and you will find the missing pieces between what snake and big boss that lead up to outer haven and zanzibar land. Did you rike it? =^)"

Fuck Kojima.

FYI - Kojima is 52. The stupid cyborg game he shit out and this TPP turd all falls within his midlife crisis.

>>315271309
Not even the same anon, but you're an idiot if you cant see how MGSV on 4 is under tracking against 4. Its right there. And its on 5 platforms you moron.

>>315270740
That's the most retarded reasoning I've ever stumbled upon.

>>315267348
If Kojima is involved I would. Otherwise fuck no

I would rather Silent Hills though

>>315271345

Rising waa the best Metal Gear game, and Kojimbo wasn't involved with it beyond the initial concept.

>>315271245
But part of MGS's shtick is the near cult of personality built around the series director. You need to cultivate that.

>>315271389
I don't understand your argument. Who cares if it's selling less on the PS4 than MGS4 did on the PS3. Why does that matter?

>>315271389
>not the same aon, for real f@m
>sperging this hard
Stay mad autist

>>315271316
Only thing really wrong with Portable Ops is the controls, I enjoyed it, Roy Campbell should have been Kaz though, looking back

>>315267561
They have a "big wheel of businesses" to decide what kind of company they are and they spin it every year anew.

>>315271465
Yeah, I think Kojmia is really fucking drained from metal gear, give him some new shit. In PT you could tell he was motivated as hell considering all the fresh new ideas there were.

A full game would of been fucking amazing. Like even if he fucked it up, it still would of been good if PT's quality is anything to go by.

>>315271492
He's a mad faggot because MGSV is a success.

Also, he's not >>315271138

LEL

>>315271482

The fucking MGS games have beeb about how cukt of personality is a fucking awful thing ever since MGS3.

>>315271471
Rising needs to be treated separately considering how different the gameplay is.

I think V is the best mechanically but in terms of sticking to the MGS 1 paradigm of stealth, 3 takes the cake.

Peace walker is thematically the grandest metal gear though.

>>315268135
Didn't he do this job for 30 Metal Gear games and some mecha games? I highly doubt that's his problem.

>>315270274
Except for the fact that they shut down all of the studios making video games, and fired anyone that didn't take a job making 'mobile games' read 'slot machines'. MGSV is far from a money pit. It cost the company $81 million dollars, and that includes the cost of an entirely new game engine. $81 million is fucking nothing.
They cancelled Silent Hills because they don't want to make games any more. Look at the people that bought a PS4 just to play P.T. For a while people were selling PS4s on ebay for over a grand, because their systems still had P.T. on it. To say that Silent Hills was going to be a money pit is crazy. It was no risk involved. Silent Hills would have out sold MGSV, because Silent Hills appeals to a larger crowd. Also, Konami doesn't understand the western game market at all.

>>315271316
Better than PW

>>315268135

>Let me spout memes /v/ taught with serious face

holy fuck youre dense, kid

>>315267513
An actual Big boss game

>>315271762

Mgs3 plays nothing like the first MGS.

MGSV is what MGS3 was meant to be gameplay wise.

>>315270667
Yes he would, and we would have a finished game that still turned a MASSIVE profit. Konami's upper management are myopic.

>>315267795
>japs
>making good games
delusional weebs

>>315271762
Peace Walkers gameplay is worst than 1's thanks to it being on the fucking PSP

>>315271778

He was VP of Konami for 4 years and most games released during that time were awful. He even fucked up several ports.

>>315271328

Story was mainly what I was referring to. Redoing some of the set pieces from the games would be quite interesting.

>>315271807
>Except for the fact that they shut down all of the studios making video games,

That didnt happened, stop using /v/ and blogs as sources.

>>315270914
>non-compete, and they're largely unenforceable
Tell that to Conan O'Brien.
Sorry that I couldn't remember the name. You are right that it is a non-compete, and my description of the non-compete was spot on except what it is called.

>>315271807

Silent Hill games sell nowhere near the amount MGS game does. Kojima was going to kill the company out of naivete.

>>315271921

If he spended more money then the game would have made no profit at all due ro the insane costs,

We dont even know if 5 million is enough to cover the costs of the game as it was released.

>>315267348
FUCK NO.

It's insulting what even became of this series story and gameplay wise.

>implying HIDEO and KOJIMA are the same person
Kojima will come soon enough with the REAL MGSV, Baby. Hideo was just a testing ruse.

>>315267348
Fuck no. The whole idea of Kickstarter was to allow people to independently fund projects, not for megapublishers to maximize profits by exploiting an established fanbase to pay for a game's development. If they want to make another one, that's fine I guess, but they're the ones who have to pony up the dough. Their reward comes after through game sales.

My resolve might be tested if they started a Zone of the Enders 3 kickstarter.

>>315269428
Every single game I backed on kickstarter was made and ended up as good as I expected.

Kojima is nothing more than a concept man. He generates the concept and foundation to a game or story. That's it.

Other people should be the ones to create the characters, fill the story, and create the looks.

>>315272563
cool 4 u

>>315267348
Fuck no..well maybe I'm a mgs fag to the end so maybe. But konami has the money so probably not, if they actually did that and kojima wasn't involved no.

>>315271575
Del Toro, Kojima, and Junji-fucking-Ito were making a game together and Konami goes full retard. They are still making a game together, but It will have another name. Del Toro pushed the sequel to "Pacific Rim" back for REASONS.

>>315270198
>Some people here actually believe in this

! bet you are 12 and discovered 4chan last year

>>315272565

Thy should ditch Kojima altogether just like Disney did with Lucas.

>>315272682
I agree. Sometimes people run out of good fucking ideas and need to be replaced, or cycled out for awhile.

Lucas copied his ideas and technical shit from Jodorowsky when he wanted to make the Dune movie, and collected technical guys, actors, etc. then got denied by the studios. He had a giant book made that showed the action sequences, etc. that went to every studio, to which nearly all big directors used and copied for their own movies.

>>315272637

Del Toro gave up on making games. And after the Hobbit and At the Mountains of Madness debacles I would have expected him to have killed himself already.

>>315272240
Except for all of the lower people at Konami confirming that it fucking happened.

>>315267348
I'm okay with more Revengeance. Anything that doesn't fuck up Big Boss or Solid Snake arc.

He should have stuck to the true to life combat and 80's action style war/conflict movies/real life. It is somewhat niche, but the gameplay and shit is perfect for that Vietnam airborne drop behind enemy lines, sneaking through the jungle, sneaking/shooting through fucking tunnels underground with traps and shit?

God that would be amazing.

>>315272860

You are again taking rumors from click bait blogs as actual sources.

>>315272421
The guy managed to squeeze out MGSV and the fantastic Fox Engine for 80 million dollars. That is fiscally insane. Most game engines alone cost over that figure, and he found a way to make an engine and a game for nearly nothing. Kojima may not be your cup of tea, but give credit where credit is due.

>>315267513

First part playing with Venom and beeing killed by Solid, and second part with Solid, defeating Big Boss.

It would be a nice remake of those shitty MSX titles that hipsters pretend they played.

>>315272332
You sincerely have no idea what you are talking about. Konami are on the cusp (unless the bill has already past) of having a complete monopoly on gambling in Japan with a partnership with Vegas that is going to make billions upon billions of dollars. Konami aren't in, nor were they ever, in financial dire straights.

>>315267348
not after what happened to MGO3

>>315272853
Del Toro has been talking about games very much in the last couple months, and hanging out with Kojima and Shinkawa. He IS making a game.

>>315273182

MGSV doesnt feel like a game that costed 80 million dollars. He clearly mismanaged the whole project and used a lot of money on stuff he didnt even used in the game. There was a musician that wrote 40 songs for MGSV and not one of the songs were used.

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>>315267348
>MGSVI

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

WHAT'S WRONG WITH ARABIC NUMBERS

>MGS
>MGS2
>MGS3
>MGS4
>MGSV

>inb4 V(enom) has come to

>>315267638

Revengeance isn't part of the Kojima canon, but with Kojima gone, expect future game devs to take non-canon titles like revengeance and portable ops as part of the new canon.

>>315267348
What happened to all the hurr so what if AAA makes money, mobile makes more money because smaller budgets so fuck Kojima and fuck Silent Hills?

It's Kotaku so this whole speculation is probably pure bullshit, but I expect Konami to pull a Silent Hill and contract some cheap, unknown Western developers to make MGS sequels. It didn't work with Silent Hill, it obviously wouldn't work with MGS, but it's Konami so this is exactly what is going to happen if they indeed plan to keep producing AAA MGS games.

>>315273393

You dont get rich, or richer, by wastinh money on enterprises that are doomed from the start. Gambling isnt a sure bet either, especially when its not even legal yet.

>>315273134
Forbes and Nikkei are now 'click-bait' blogs?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/08/03/scathing-konami-report-alleges-cruel-and-unusual-employee-practices/

>>315273581

You cannot make a big game without an investor, and who is going to give any money to a couple of washed out failed movie directors?

>>315273752
>gambling isn't legal
in what shithole of a country you live in

>>315273603
That's exactly what he's saying dude. The game didn't cost 80 million to produce. Simply making the engine it runs on took a massive bite out of that. The fact he still made a game and a new engine with 80 million is damn impressive.

>>315273603
The eighty million figure includes the price tag of the Fox Engine. I would venture a guess that the Fox Engine cost more than The Phantom Pain, but that is only speculation.

>>315267575
Did you completely miss the point of MGS4? The whole game was about how redundant and useless normal soldiers like Solid are compared to enhanced ones through nanomachines or cyborg enhancents like Raiden's. Raiden would wipe the fucking floor with Solid post revengeance, Snake's like a hundred years old anyways.

>>315273892
Mark Cerny.

>>315274074
>Snake's like a hundred years old anyways.
and big boss still had to ask solid not to kick his ass

>>315273858
> postiny articles he hasnt even read

Top Kuk.

Konami is run by fucking thugs. They don't care about Kojima, nor releasing a finished game.

>>315267447

She's dead fyi. Unless they pull a clone out of nowhere.

as long as it was some raiden shit yes. new clone or new super soldier program what ever hell play as a custom bad guy type character with odd abilites

but no fucking raiden bullshit unless he stops wearing high heals and puts on some fucking pants

>>315273949

He could have used a third party engine to reduce costs like most sensible devs do.

>>315273949
At least someone here can understand what a fucking financial feat it was to make the engine and game for eighty million. Kojima Productions were filled with fucking wizards.

>>315274402
Konami didn't want to pay for licensing anything. This entire thread has been about how they are assholes and don't want to pay for anything.

>>315267348
Fuck no. After the mess that is 5 I am done with the series.
MGS5 felt like it was 40% complete to begin with so really don't trust Konami or Kojima with anything at this point.

>>315274565

That was probably a Kojimbo decision though.

>>315274402
Well there's more too it then that. Until someone cranks out the perfect engine that can do anything and everything easily which isn't going to happen then companies out there will have to create new engines now and then. Otherwise everything will just stagnate once every nook and cranny of the engine has been explored.

I'm actually quite hype about what can come out of the Fox engine. Let's hope Konami doesn't hold it hostage for too long.

>>315274746

There is nothing in the Fox Engine that couldnt have been done with any of the available enines out there,

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>>315267513

It will be a reboot

>>315269257
>thinking zanzibarland is in zanzibar

>>315267513
Ocelot no Nichijou

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>>315275314
My Little Brother Can't Be This Cute

>>315274969
You can do anything with any engine out there technically, it boils down to how well it processes information for desired results and how easy it is to actually implement those processes when building the game.

Look at the Cry engine and Star Citizen. The Cry engine just kind of sucks when it comes to tons of shit moving around and changing directions constantly and shooting at each other. It's really resource intensive to calculate all that shit and actually getting it working is a nightmare in getting your coding working properly. Cry just ain't good for space ship games. Cry engine has its benefits and looks fantastic when utilized properly but it's really more suited for first person shooters then it is space ships.

Engines are complex. Depending on the engine, is super easy to do some things and implement mechanics, a hell of a lot harder to do others. The only reason they are a thing is because it's easier to license use of one then it is to build every game ever from the ground up.

I'm still not too sure why Cry was the engine of choice for Star Citizen.

If we get another MGS it'll just be the same game but replace everything with the cut content + padding and rename Mother Base to Outer Heaven and you retards will buy it again

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>>315267348
>MGS game without Kojima

Yes.

>story about Big Boss
>more contained spaces
>rescuing Sniper Wolf
>rescuing Frank
>encountering David
>Ocelot providing backup in cover
>no more Kojima NANOMACHINES/PARASITES and alike
>no more self inserts for teens that day dream about rescuing their high-school crush from the evil bully at the sound of linkin park OMG IS JUST LIKE VENOM AND QUIET

long live MGS6

>>315267683
> Now
They've been shilling for years on /v/. Search the archives after when one of the markerters sperg out about /v/ not liking the 2nd 3D Castlevania game and goes full retard, posting proof of their shilling along with telling everyone on /v/ to go to hell.

>>315270353
that's the exact story behind Twin Snakes, how fucking retarded are you?

>>315267348
>Hideo Kojima, who is apparently on vacation

I want to go on vacation with kojima

>>315271762
2 fit the bill of tactical espionage action far better than 3

>>315271504
And the gameplay and story

>>315267513
First we need MGS5

>>315274969
>shit MGS fanboys say

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>>315276546
>A properly talented writer/director involved
>Twin Snakes
And you're calling him retarded?

>>315267348
It's not MGS without Kojima

>>315274589
MGSV not 5, Kojima even said that on Twitter

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>>315277748
>kojima fangirls

>>315268119
but he'll break the mold by killing and becoming his apprentice in a MGS5 type twist. the man who sold MGS.

>>315268025
>snake is already dead
The solid snake in MGS4 was actually a SEAL team member that inflated Big Shell but was nearly killed. He was subsequently revived by Plisskin's moustache. But the moustache took over his personality and he became solid snake. The real solid snake died at big shell but his sheer strength of will caused his spirit to transfer by saltwater osmosis into a nearby grouper.

>>315277748
This. Although I've never been a real MGS fanboy, I can see quite clearly that Kojima himself is a big part of what draws people to the series. Trying to decipher the meaning behind his cryptic interviews, tweets, announcements, things he puts in his games, etc. is a huge part of MGS from what I have seen, particularly on this board. Speculation drums up hype.

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>>315269468
This just might work

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>>315267348
>That title

Someone actually went to university for 3 years and studied English literature & publishing to write "NEEDS LOTS OF MONEY" in a title piece.

Is this that famous American education I've heard about?

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Can you imagine a Star Wars movie WITHOUT George Lucas?
No one can truly understand the series except the creator himself.

>>315278740
Kojima is a hack, nothing new

>>315278614
Jesus Christ, you are retarded.

>>315278740
Except huge parts if the fanbase turned against Lucas over a decade ago due to the shitty prequels and his compulsion to make make minor changes to the original trilogy.

>>315274310
Its Metal Gear. A clone of her would make more sense than anything else that has happened. They could just make it someone else who got plastic surgery to look like her and was brainwashed.

>>315267820
It´s this exact meme that steered us into this shit situation. MGSV could have been made by any idiot, Rising definitely has a better story than V and Peace Walker.

The biggest problem will probably be Konami not wanting to give the kind of celebrity status to somebody again which can be benefiecal or make it worse because Konami workers can´t get anything done without Kojima sempais approval so the team on their own could result in a more focused team or they just stay retarded.

>>315278614
>Someone actually went to university for 3 years and studied English literature & publishing to write "NEEDS LOTS OF MONEY" in a title piece.
Calm your tits yurofag.

In 'murica you don't need a degree to write for an online site. I know yurop culture is obsessed with academic degrees and every 23 year old squirt calls himself a "doctor" but do try to contain the ridicule.

You lot need that ego masturbation. Other countries just need professional competence.

>u need a degree to write shit on a blog huehuehuehue

>>315267513
Mercenary War after Metal Gear 2 and the liberation of Zanzibar Land.

>>315278740
>>315278974
At this point someone who's a huge MGS fan might actually do a better job than Kojima. Obviously not one of those spergs who know ever single little thing and have spent 10k hours in the games, but someone who admires them for what they are and knows the good and the flaws and embraces both.

>>315278614
someone is feeling proud that he got in uni :^)

I'll have a cheese burger and a coke.

A giant company like Konami e-begging?
I can't see it happening.

>>315271492
The game on 5 platforms hasnt outsold the one released 6 years ago on one platform with a fraction of the install base. It goes against an above post in this chain numbnuts

>b-but sales dont matter

>>315267513
MGS:VI:now your playing as big boss for real edition

Same core gameplay as V,
You go around stealing all the nukes building the base that is in metal gear 2
Throught the game you encounter young adult versions of all the bosses you would fight in mg2 and they would be your buddies.

A "large-scale investment" does not mean fucking Kickstarter people. Even the largest kickstarter campaigns are a fucking pittance compared to how much an MGS actually costs to produce.

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>>315267348


Jesus christ Konami. Wasn't Kojima the reason MGSV needed that much money in the first place? What's your fucking excuse now that he's gone.

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When MGS5 Directors cut?

>>315279139
Tomokazu Fukushima


That is all MGS needs.

Kojima was always a monkey throwing faeces for people to gather around to see what crazy stunt he would do. It's a personality cult and he does deserve some merit, but everything else made him think he's unquestionable and can do nothing wrong.

He made MGS series good, but he also made it shit.

Tomokazu Fukushima is all it's needed.

>>315274310
She's less dead than Volgin was.

>>315267513
Future tactical stealth operations, infiltrating high-tech facilities starring as The Boss (actually an android recreation). Philosophy on the nature of artificial intelligence and free will, what it means to be in a dead hero's skin etc.

>>315267348
Would you buy your gardener a lawnmower and then pay them to mow your lawn?

>>315267561
>>315267945
Konami has numerous divisions within them. The console gaming division is known as Konami Digital Entertainment.
http://www.konami.co.jp/en/corporate/business/

>>315279385
Why did he stop?

>>315279057
>europe
>country

There comes the blob education again.

>>315279348
Japanese jews

>>315279139
You know, you might be right. Maybe somebody fresh, with a healthy respect for the series, could could breathe new life into it.

>>315274074
>The whole game was about how redundant and useless normal soldiers like Solid are compared to enhanced ones
Like the B&B unit which totally kicked Snake's ass.

>>315279273
Ps3 had no games back in the day.

>>315279516
no one said europe was a single country.
>Other countries just need professional competence.

Jesus fuck is english that hard to understand?

>MGSV a complete fucking disappointment and wreck
>Okay lets make another one
Yeah I don't think so

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>>315279516
>america
>country

>yurop
>countries

You ok there buddy?

>>315279812
Don't respond to him. He's clearly retarded.

Why are you faggots clamoring for another Metal Gear Solid? The series is dead folks. Kojima is gone and after the disastrous launch of a game THAT WAS LITERALLY UNFINISHED what makes you think it'll be anything good especially with the fuckery that Konami pulled?

You are the exact reason why gaming companies treat you like shit. You can't let go so you just keep spending tons of money on a familiar IP out of nostalgia or a sense of obligation without realizing you're killing the thing you enjoy.

Actually, nah go ahead and make a kick starter, donate millions and I'll gleefully smirk as MGS VI fails to live up to your expectations and disappoints you yet again.

If you fuckers can't learn from your mistake with MGS V, you deserve to watch your series twist and writhe as it becomes nothing but a cash cow franchise. Enjoy your new AssCreed tier bullshit /v/, you fucking earned it

>>315279636
Kojima's obviously had too much. Not only has he been engrossed in MGS for 20 years but at this point he's probably half scared shitless he's going to fuck up and lose respect and half so caught up in himself and his own ego that he'd miss obvious flaws and poor decisions, and nobody around would dare to tell him no(queue the George Lucas WebM with that guy giving that look when Lucas is drawing on the board). Someone new would not only be able to breathe new life into it but also respect the source material more because the source material isn't his but Kojima's, and simply the idea of making a failure of MGS would make him work even harder.

Maybe if Konami gets their head out of their asses with this mobile shit they might try another, but they'll likely be successful because for some reason Asians love shitty mobile games with microtransactions.
But hey, maybe they'll make so much money and become a mobile-games powerhouse that they decide to revive the series and just throw money at it just to see if it could still be profitable.

>>315280164
>kickstarter

Who said anything about Kickstarter?

>>315278074
Yes and that is non canon

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>>315280164
>becomes
it already is a cash cow franchise.

right now on /mgg/ those faggots are only discussing the bikini DLC for MGO3.
That's right, the general for MGS is praising and circle jerking DLC.

It's dead and Kojima killed it.
Kojima is a tumour. Maybe without the tumour and a good amount of chemo (Tomokazu Fukushima) the series can live again even with DLC and Konami bullshit.

>>315280448
and it is a good MGS game.

We don't need Kojima to have a good MGS game.
In fact, some of the worse MGS games were done by Kojima so go figure.

>>315280435
It's OP's main question

>>315280557
No it isn't, it's shit and non canon, it's not MGS without Kojima

>>315267513
JUST GIVE ME MGSV GAMEPLAY BUT FUCK THE OPEN WORLD

I just want a hundred different ground zeroes. Make it a FOXHOUND game where you go on missions as the members, they can be long missions whatever just give me a base to infiltrate, not a couple of tents to sneak around the back of.

>>315280476
Konami got away with releasing an unfinished game and made back their investment and more. What makes you think they'll bother letting Tomokazu or anyone give the next entry any creative love when dicking over customers has paid them handsomely?

>>315280649
>hasn't played it

I hope we finally get Metal Gear Solid 5

>>315280749
>implying this will work a second time.
People weren't expecting MGSV to suck.

>>315280827
Konami pls go

>>315267348
>Hypothetically speaking, would you guys donate to a MGSVI kickstarter if it meant the series would continue on?

Hard to say. If Kojima is on board and asks for it... then I'd probably put some.

If Kojima isn't involved... fuck Konami.

>>315280649
it's good. it was a critical and sales success.

the fact that it's not canon is irrelevant, the point is that there's no need for Kojima for a good MGS game.

but you're a fanboy, and fanboys are retarded loyalists that praise brands and personalities more than quality, so there's no point arguing.

>>315271316
>Introduced nearly all the gameplay ideas that became a core part of the series in PW and V
>Exact same gameplay as 3
>BUT MUH STORY

V proved that games with kojima can have just as terrible stories if not worse

>>315280749
Konami had to release an unfinished game because Kojimbo took over 5 years to make MGSV and was still draining more money and resources with no end in sight.

>>315281017
>exact same gameplay as 3
stop pretending you played it

>>315280873
It sucked and it made millions. Of course Konami can get away with it again

>>315267995
I could get behind this
>series of disconnected bases like Ground Zeroes but larger
>each one has a Metal Gear in it
>game is about Snake and Ocelot traveling the world destroying each one
>post credits scene is Ocelot getting the tip about the tanker from EE

>>315280949
>>315280897

>>315267998
Konami *is* a Tokyo-based fitness company, though.

>>315271316
Yeah because the last 3 MGS games with Kojima were soooooooo great amirite?

>MGSV
>MGS4
>MGSPW

>>315281220
>that lack of arguments from fanboys

>>315281358
>>315280897

What is the point of this thread? That's stupid.

>>315280247
>maybe they'll make so much money and become a mobile-games powerhouse that they decide to revive the series and just throw money at it just to see if it could still be profitable.
This is what I hope will happen with Konami. I know it's pretty unlikely, but once they make ass loads off of mobile shit, maybe they'll come back to more traditional gaming media with all that cash.

But I think you're right about Kojima. Making games for the same series for two decades would exhaust anybody of ideas.

>>315281414
>konami is shilling a gameboy color game that they didn't even bother to re-release on the virtual console
I'm sure this is true and it's not just that ghost babel is a good game

>>315279273
PS3 didn't have shit for games back then, cûck.

>>315281525
>>315280897

Unlike most of /v/ I actually enjoyed MGSV so yeah, I'd be down for another MGS.

>>315281423
OP's question is stupid. I think the conversation has shifted to whether or not MGS can continue to be successful without Kojima.

>>315281525
>if you don't praise KOJIMBO DOES NOTHING WRONG SEMPAI you're a Konami employee

there's no point in argue with fangirls

>>315281423
trigger Kojimbo fangirls

>>315281102
stop pretending YOU'VE played it

It's MGS3 gameplay down to the CQC

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>>315267513
Filler leading to the gran finale when Venom fights Solid.
And we find out that somehow Venom switched bodies with Solid.
Solid is Venom.

>>315281885
are u seriously retarded or are you just pretending?

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Reminder that Sahelanthropus is an allegory for the game itself

>unfinished piece of shit with functions and features incomplete or missing entirely
>created by a hack who lied to himself and everyone around him and convinced himself and maybe a few gullible fucks he's not a terrible person
>rushed out the door by the evil bad guy who had different ideas of how to use it
>takes literal mental gymnastics for it to stand on its own two legs

>>315281685
I liked every kojima game except for MGS4
I liked MGSV even though I'm pissed that they cut so much out of it
I also like ghost babel and rising, there's no reason to play teams, people are really narrow-minded.
I'm not that interested in a new metal gear game since I'm pretty burned out with the series at this point, I'd be down with a MGR2 though.
>>315281814
>no camo
>multiple playable characters
>you can use enemy soldiers to blend in but pressing triangle under any circumstance will get you spotted
>no hunting
>no survival viewer
>all you have to do in each mission is reach an objective and the mission is done, you can just get spotted and run to it and you're good to go
>exactly the same as mgs3
you either played one or the other

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>>315281586
>>315281414
>>315281220
>>315280897
What are you, 12? You realize that you're coming across as a deluded Kojima fanboy, right? Why would Konami be shilling a Game Boy Color game released like two decades ago?

They have the engine already, so wont it be way cheaper to make? Hopefully the story will be better too, hideo is too reliant on muh parasites and muh nanos.

>>315282064
>>315280897

>>315267513
Solid Snake gets cloned and swaps brains with his clone. Realizes Meryll looks like a linebacker and kills himself

>>315282056
>kojima also resembles Huey himself
>gets keked
>kills himself
>puts the whole blame on someone else (konami) even though hes just a shit eater

im ok with all of this

>>315272563

Every single woman I have talked to has literally ripped off their clothes and thrown their naked body at my crotch

Fuck no, mgs5 was shit

>>315281652
Without Kojima? Who do you think should direct it?

>>315267513
Solidus and the PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS!

Debates! Primaries! Kissing Babies without killing them!

>>315282153
I appreciate the effort but it's not that funny, people aren't getting as pissed off at it as you'd want them to

>>315280164
>disastrous launch
That paid for itself overnight, and continues to be in the top ten of software sales.

I for one, really enjoy MGSV, would I have liked the game to be complete? Yes. Is it a fucking trainwreck the way it is now? No.

>>315279273
MGS4 reached those sales over it's lifetime.

>>315267513
Another fucking Big Boss story marketed as "How Big Boss becomes the bad guy, for real this time!"

>>315267575
>my sword is a tool of justice
>I protect the weak
>edgelord

That fucking word is getting overused lately. An edgelord would be some deviantart tier overpowered thing that kills innocents for no reason other than he can. Fucking Armstrong his more of an edgelord than Raiden.

>>315274969

Uh no, you couldn't.
Fox engine has to be one of the most optimized engines out there next to unreal.

I was able to to get it running perfectly with every turned to max, except for shadows, on a literal toaster.

>>315267348
Fuck the series, make "Metal Gear" and let Solid Snake rest.

>>315267513
Metal Gear: Fight of Metal Gears starring Jake Snake

>>315268934
>market themselves as journalists, try to "expose" truths, keep everybody up to date on the latest stupid industry news and even write reviews which get put on the marketing blurbs for games
>get called out on integrity or bias
>"lol we are just a blog guys, check out this cool top ten list!"

>>315274242
Nop BB cqc his ass and hug him.
He was nothing against BB in the grave. But john wasn't there to fight.
Raiden is superior

>>315282935
What I think would be cool would for Konami to contract out the Metal Gear name to a great dev team and have them make MG games about Solid's very early days, keeping Big Boss, Outer Heaven, Foxhound and the rest of that clusterfuck out of it. Like a semi-reboot so the designers and writers actually have some room to breath within the Metal Gear series. Then if that works out well they can hype up the Metal Gear 1 and 2 remake once the dev team has some experience with the series.

>>315267348
>next metal gear
>metal gear pachi solid