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Now that the dust has settled, what's your opinion of him?

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Now that the dust has settled, what's your opinion of him?
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Yeah, rip
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>>292247201

traitor
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>>292247201
I never cared about him
I just want tf2 economy back so its actually worth with to trade
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>>292247201
Been trying to order assassination after the paid mods fiasko, but it costs too much since they would have to use armor piercing bullets.
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I'm just sittin on some disappointment

He seemed alright. Not "savior of video games" or anything but just like a pretty decent dude.
This whole situation has been pretty nasty nigga.
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>>292247201
fat smug cunt. if he wasn't pretending to give a fuck before he was certainly riding the wave of worship to make it seem like he was the hero everyone hoped for. fuck him.
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Fat fuck who can't be trusted, now more than ever
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>>292247201
>>292247436

And btw OP, I don't think the dust has actually settled just yet. :)
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In the same way God works in mysterious ways, I'm sure Gaben too.
We may be confused and upset about charging for mods, but I'm sure he has a good reason for it and we just are unable to understand it.

Probably is Half-Life 3 related; that game can't be cheap to develop.
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Brony Apple Scumbag.
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Fat jew, he only ever did 2 or 3 FPSs and called it a day, then proceeded to sell pony hats and charge for mods.
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I've been telling you fucks that valve are not your pals and that le jolly master race meme man was a ruthless businessman for years.

It's nice to feel vindicated.
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>>292247201
Brilliant businessman and makes me wish I had invented some kind of butthurt salve, I would be a millionaire because of gabe alone by now
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>>292247201
Never gave much of a shit about him until the mustard meme.

Feels so damn good to see those fuckers get BTFO.
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>>292247201
Why do you fuckers always post "Now that the dust has settled" posts when shit is still current events?

Like, do you just forget about them when the dust ACTUALLY settles? Can you seriously not wait one singular day after Dark Souls 2 comes out to say "Now that the dust has settled isn't this the best game ever made?"

It's not. It's not, Gary. It's not even close to the best game ever made.
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>>292248057
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder
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Anyone who had his opinion of Gabe changed by this thing, is an overreacting idiot.

If you should hate someone now, hate yourself. You have proven that you're a shit-eating monkey who believes he's entitled to get EVERYTHING FOR FREE RIGHT NOW!!!!

Modders have a right to monetize their work if they want to, and you have absolutely nothing to say against that. None of you can ever give any valid arguments against it, it's all just "hurrrr greedy jew kikes"
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>>292248057
It's basically copypasta to start a thread.It's like the "Wow...so this is the power....of the PS4" threeads that shills used to spam until the phrase became memetic.
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>>292248057
look at this loser guyse, he cant even into memes
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he is just a man
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>order pizza
>pay for it
>want to mod pizza with extra cheese
>go out and buy some cheese

WOOOOOOW THIS CHEESE ISN'T FREE? WHAT THE FUCK, KROGERS?
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>>292248313
Who the hell still finds memes funny.....
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Savior of modding. Get rekt, gramps.
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>>292248334
Your argument completely breaks apart since its not a physical product.
And the cheese is made by a random guy for free with no financial contribution to its creation.
It also may or may not give you food poisoning.
So shell out faggot; buy this questionable digital content made by some greedy neckbeard
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>>292247201
I honestly think he is trying to (and failing to) change gaming for the better. The thing is he and the rest of the company have been losing touch, yet they are stubborn as always.
I think their intention was to give modders some type of financial cushion so that they could continue their hobby. A lot of modders end up leaving the community either because A: They need to support themselves, and modding was just a hobby, or B: They were talented enough to get a job as an actual game developer, which they immediately jumped at the opportunity because what modder wouldn't want to make a living designing video games? Still, this all falls flat on its face because 25% and steambux only. Though I have a feeling Bethesda is partially to blame for that.

Maybe because of the backlash, they will, for the first time ever, pull back. But I don't see that happening.
What I do see happening, at the absolute worst, is steam workshop becoming more and more obscure as all the greedy modders who are only in it for the money migrate to Steam to make a profit off of it, resulting in an overall loss of quality. While the rest of the modding community can continue releasing content wherever they like.
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The vocal minority has whined like entitled children. Now let's move on.

Oh and to all the people going full "I WILL NOT USE STEAM ANYMORE", nobody believes you and you're probably logged in your account right now. Nobody owes you shit of any sort. If you're too poor to pay for modder's work, then just pirate or use the free stuffs.
What are you going to do anyway? Use GOG like their marketer is trying to push right now, taking advantage of GabeN ONLY mistep? Or origin? Is this what loyalty is to you people?

You just disgust me, it's just fucking video games, have a walk or something, have fresh air.
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>>292249014
I can see this too.
Also mod piracy isn't something that can be blocked either.
It'll be all too common.
Honestly a pay what you want or donate option would've solved it.
But I feel this is valve's retarded business sense combined with bethesda greed.
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This is what happens when you put too much trust in corporations. They buttfuck you raw.
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Valve is blameless, you absolute fucks. It is the publishers decision.
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>>292249202
Honestly, they probably wouldn't have gotten away with a donate button on the store page itself. Bethesda would never let that happen. Most companies wouldn't want that.
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>>292249105
This guy's whats wrong with the whole situation.
Throwing around "ENTITLED" like a fucking idiot.
These are the faggots that caused the industry to degenerate to on-disc DLC and horrific business practice.
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>>292249324
>valve is blameless
>takes a cut of the money for doing no work

I'm actually laughing

shill harder newshill
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>>292249105
>Is this what loyalty is to you people?
>loyalty
>to a video game business

Disgusting
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The dust is far from having settled. Far as I can tell, there's still plenty of a shitstorm over the recent jewness.
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>>292249263
Ninty isn't like that.
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Literally pic related.

His fear of death is making him mad.
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>>292247201

The same as it's always been.

Disgusting piece of shit.

Why you retards ever liked the guy is beyond me. Was it just because he's a fat neckbeard like yourself?

The man has never produced anything worthwhile.
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how the fuck has the dust settled?
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Werent you faggots saying that he saved PC gaming some time ago ? Now because OF FUCKING MODS you hate him ? What the fuck ?
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>>292249376
Yeah, I'm fucking wrong for spending money in the industry instead of wanting everything for free. You're still probably a kid, but you'll see when you'll work if you'd like people to tell you you should work for free. THIS guy here >>292249456 is everything that's wrong nowadays. He is shameless and can't even recognize all the good valve has brought on PC (you know, little things like SINGLEHANDELY SAVED PC GAMING).
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>>292247201

judas
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Forgive them GabeN for they don't know.
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>>292247276
/thread
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I don't see whats so great about him. I can't say anything about Team fortress that hasn't already been said, Portal 2 is one of the worst games I have ever seen in my life, and people claim they've been waiting too long for another Half-life while I've been waiting for something else (I won't say it because it's not vidya related) since 2002.
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>>292249578
>DLC sold in shitty sweatshop-produced pussy repellents
>rehashing pokemon yearly and selling it in 2 separate versions with exclusive content
>selling underpowered consoles on huge profit
>selling them again but with overclocked CPU later in their life
>have disc drive but don't support video playback in any way(imb4 GAYMES - if I have fucking brick near my TV, I would love to use it for other things than just gaming)

And the best
>be nintendo
>pander to casuals
>when casuals left say you're all about "core audience" with straight faces
>"core audience" believes you
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>>292247201
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>>292247379
Underrated post
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>>292247857
Which no one is forcing you to buy
Mods that you can pirate if you don't want give money legally to the author, the company that made the game and the best system for buying games and playing online.
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False prophet
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>>292249856
>Yeah, I'm fucking wrong
Good job admitting it at least faggot
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>>292249578
>amiibos
>abandoning your core market for a blue ocean casual audience with the Wii
>casualizing nearly all of your mainline franchises to pathetically easy levels
>going mobile with a Jew app compan
>last direct was bombarded with DLC

The Wii marked the creative deathbed of Nintendo. The machine is still working but the soul left years ago.
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>People actually believe in prophets, saviors, messiahs and leaders

L
E
L
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He's a business man. Not a creator.
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Who's hyped for next mod sales?
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>>292247201
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>>292247201

He's the same fatfuck business he has always been.

I don't understand how people can think that a company will ever act in a consumer's best interests.

I see the same issue with CDPR, people are still sucking their slav dicks, even though it's blatantly obviously that the Witcher 3 is targetting the console/skyrim audience.

Companies don't care about you, they might to pretend to, they might even do things that seem to be right by the consume, but they'll only do it if benefits them more than it benefits you.
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If he killed himself on cam, I wouldn't even watch the video
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>>292247201
He's pulling a microsoft and getting his platform broad market integration before going full jew. We/re only in stage 1 of Jewery.
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The Auspicious One
The Transformer
The Destroyer

Gabe is the incarnation of Shiva.
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>>292249014
>Paid in Steambucks
They're not. It clearly states on the Q&A page on getting money from your stuff on Steam that you can set it up that it goes directly to your bank account. If they couldn't, then even the modders would throw a fit.

The problem I see is companies will get lazier at making properly functioning games with content in them. Teams will get smaller as that work can be done for cheaper by outsourcing that work to modders.

>>292249856
DLC is fine as long as it's separate from the original game. Having locked DLC that's already on your computer is bullshit and should have been available from the start or kept separate. It'd be like buying a house with a room in it with no way in and had you spent the extra money they would have put the door in, but if you try to access it without paying them YOU'RE a bad person.
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>>292251282
And if I had any photoshop skills I'd put Gabes head on it.
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>>292247201
>dust
>settled
>implying
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>>292248231
>I believe in rights
congratulations you're retarded
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>>292251282
Why do indian gods look like fags?
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>>292247379
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friendly reminder

http://www.usa.gov/topics/consumer.shtml

WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW. GO TO THIS SITE AND TELL THEM WHAT'S GOING ON.
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Overrated, I'm happy the past few days have revealed his true colours.
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>>292251717
Stop posting screenshots from Reddit
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>>292247201
Still a good guy in my opinion.
Most of my disdain from the paid mods thing transferred over to Bethesda. Valve is about where it was before with me.
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>>292247201
>what's your opinion of him?
The same as for the last 12 years.
A fat, greedy piece of shit.
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>>292251516

They look gender neutral.

Because those of divine mind know that gender is bullshit.
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>>292249856
Are you autistic.
Are you actually autistic.
Because I work buddy.
And I also have a hobby; photography.
I don't try and sell my photos.
I share them.
I get paid for my job.
Not my hobby.
Modders should get a fucking job and stop being whiny sluts.
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>>292247201

Same as before.

He's another CEO pretending to be a big friendly bear, but in reality he's a money hungry faggot. And why shouldn't he be? He's a businessman.

I never followed the whole Gabe worshiping thing. It's no different than the guys at Sony and Nintendo that pretend to be in touch with the vidya players.
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>>292247201
The antichrist of vidya
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Valve has been creatively bankrupt for years now. They're one of the proportionally richest companies in the business yet do not create games for years now. Even the mods they assimilated and ported onto source are terribly maintained. Even looking back at their track record it's nowhere near impressive aside from HL1. The question is why they were so hyped all along when they never really produced classic titles. Portal was a tech demo, TF2 was a casualized multiplayer shooter with 5 maps, Dota 2 and CS: GO aren't even theirs, L4D was mediocre. I think it's their quirky writing and voice acting and LE GABEN XDD STEAM SALES that stand for the majority of their reputation.
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He's just a normal CEO.
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I never understood what the obsession was with him anyway, he dropped out of college and he runs a company. Why did that make him special? A entire team created those games and run Steam it's not like he just magically shit it all out of his ass one night.
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He's a big guy in the industry.
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>>292247201
One of the good guys in gaming.
I hope he will fix the modding issue.
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>>292251717
>14 year olds looking up copyright law on wikipedia for 5 minutes and acting like they know a single fucking thing
EULA's already have strong precedence in courts as legally enforceable. there's nothing stopping what steam is doing
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YOU COULD HAVE HAD IT ALL GABEN, YOU COULD HAVE HAD IT ALL.
OUR MONIES, OUR WALLETS AND OUR HEARTS.
BUT NOW WE'LL KEEP OUR MONIES AND OUR WALLTES AND THE HEART IS BROKEN.
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>>292251894
That's a screen from 4chan you retard
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>>292252091
modders aren't whining. just /v/.
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>>292252237
I don't know about that, his ass IS pretty big, who knows what's in there
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>>292247201
He's a fucking business man. All of the worship for him or any other company is fucking stupid.
They make goods or services. We pay for those goods or services. If we like what we get, we pay for more. That's the extent of you're relationship with any dev, and if you think otherwise about any of them you're fucking retarded.
And if you think this reflects negatively on any dev, you're fucking retarded.
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he seems like a pretty nice guy
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>>292252380
>4chan
No you are the retard
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>>292247201
RIP
I get that valve is a business and they want to make money but are they that hard up for cash that they won't admit the mods are a shit idea?
they already cornered the market on PC gaming while having tons of love from fans. Why would they risk damaging there reputation over some more money?
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>>292247612
Half Life 3 will be a Skyrim mod.
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I think he's completely in the right, and that this entire thing was a move to try and get developers interested in cooperating with the modding community.
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>>292252295
for you
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>>292252491

Why do they always go to Reddit and never here? Are we that bad?
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I'm not mad i'm just... disappointed
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>>292252568
Then you are absolutely wrong
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>>292252674
You are entitled to your opinion.
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>>292252659
Because 4chan is shit.
Is this a real question?
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>>292247201
It's okay when Valve does it
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>>292247201
He is the same man trying to make the medium a better place for artist and attempting to abolish all thing that formly removed power from the creator.

He just a man who hates publishers, and now the gaming community at large after this last childlike meltdown from the community.

It wasn't even a decade ago publishers and developers were pushing extremely low pay, extremely long hours to the point you would sleep in the office, and absolutely no rights over your creation.
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>>292252745

Doesn't seem any different than Reddit, the mods could just make a sticky for people like that to answer questions. It's all about moderation, it's no different. I could call gabe a fag on reddit too
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>>292252659
>why would someone go to a more populated site full of normalfags and shitty mods instead of an anonymous image board where they wojld get shat on with the force of a thousand suns
are you that stupid, m8?
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>>292252659
on reddit he was getting worthwhile discussion from others because the voting system actually works in those situations, believe it or not. on 4chan it would just be a myriad of shitposts and cocksucking
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>>292252568
By making it about money. Mods will be more shit as more people try to make a quick buck, and games will be more shit because they don't have to try anymore.

Look at how many mods exist because of how shit skyrim is. SkyUI is one of the most recommended mods of all time, and it only exists because the default one is so goddamn horrible. Now SkyUI is for sale instead of free, and Bethesda is making more money DIRECTLY BECAUSE of how shit the actual game was.
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>>292247201
never cared. i just pity the whole cult that formed around that guy
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>>292247201
I stopped giving a shit about Valve and Steam since they ruined TF2.
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>>292252659
>>292252745
>>292252912
You can always tell who is a newfag or not because they always ask this fucking question.

Anonymous culture does not mesh well with identities.
Ever.
The countless times that devs have come to /v/ have always ended poorly; for all parties involved, including us.

You want a discussion where all members have equal footing?
4chan is better for that.
You want to host an AMA style discussion?
Reddit is better for that.
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I just don't see the point of paying for mods.
At that point, they just become DLC. DLC that is far too numerous, has a pretty good chance of not working and straight up breaking your game, has a good chance of not even working with other "DLC", and aren't even remotely attached to the original developers. At that point, why would I drop cash on it? For what reason?
If a motherfucker buys himself a nice shiny new mod and it turns out the shit doesn't work on his rig, slows his game to a crawl, and breaks all the other mods he bought; does that nigga get a full refund?
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Next time he has a public conference I'm going to take my stand and call him out as a MURDERER!! YOU MURDERER!! MURDERER!
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>>292253153

I've been here for 5 years anon, I just think this place is fine if mods actually did their job.
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>>292252939
>4chan is super tough sekret club where we're not afraid to shit on people
>reddit is a bunch of pussy normalfags who just circlejerk
hate to burst your bubble, m80
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>>292253072
>Mods will be more shit as more people try to make a quick buck, and games will be more shit because they don't have to try anymore.
You are blaming valve for a lack of ethics within the modding community.
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>>292253072
Go away, you, who brings logic!
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>>292252371
God, what happened to him? He looks just like Tim Cain in that 2015 photo.
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>>292253273
>I've been here for 5 years anon
I refuse to believe you.

There is no way you could be here that long without knowing the answers to that question yourself.
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>>292253441

I just like to ask questions
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>>292253362
Tim Cain looks younger.
Also, old age happens to everybody. It will happen to you too. It has already happened to me, I wish I could eat 2 pizzas and a bottle of coke for dinner again without wanting to puke my guts.
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>>292253167
that's one of the main problems
as a consumer you are entitled to a working product
you a buy a car and it doesn't work than you get a refund
mod's might not work or not work well with other mods but you won't know until you try. But now you have to buy them in most cases and Valve ain't gonna regulate that shit.
They should have stuck to selling hats, hats always work and are regulated. Mods aren't
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My estimations had seriously gone up quite a bit after steam OS announcements and I do still support that.

But they've come crashing back down after this really terrible idea.
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Selling PC. Going straight consoles.

No ideal, but what can you do?
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>>292252049
>Because those of divine mind know that gender is bullshit.
>gender is bullshit

kek, yeah maybe for the 1-3% of the population who are mentally ill and suffer from hormone imbalances.
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>>292253298
oh shit here's another good one
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>>292253362
Right? is it a shop?
he looks like a Sith lord
a really tubby Sith lord
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>>292253298
>the most misrepresented quote of all time

Why do you think TES had so many mods?

Because the community that used TES mods donated more than other games.

It makes me mad every time i see someone posting this shit like they have a point the the community just was free as could be and had no monterey aspirations ever. Ill tell you right now they wouldn't be modding for the most disappointing TES to date with the least flexible modtools ever for a TES as well.
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>>292253698
I'll be more than happy to buy it off of you for $50.
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>>292253153
I prefer 4chan over Reddit mostly because I think Reddit's UI is horribly designed and I can never figure out how to read the posts.
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FUCK GABEN

HE IS THE ANTICHRIST
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>>292247201
He's a good business man. One blunder won't invalidate how successful Steam has become. Sales are still great. He's trying to get Linux to be more popular.

On the whole, not bad. But not worth the cultist love.
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>>292253317
They're all at fault. If the modders alone were responsible, then charging for mods would have been a thing without Valve's help.
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>>292253915
I installed L4D2 on Ubuntu and holy christ it ran like absolute shit, even at lowest settings. I immediately uninstalled it.
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>>292253857
the site is total garbage until you install RES. the "hide child comments" function is really useful

>>292253801
i don't understand what you're trying to say
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>>292253153
Sort of agree with this. 4chan was never really meant for famous people to use tripcode and ask questions. It was meant for famous people to lurk among us as equals. I dont really care if devs even go to this site or not.
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>>292254132
Skymin has some of the worst mod tools ever seen in a elder scrolls games.

If you are modding as a hobby and not for monetary gain, why would you mod a game that is going to fight you every step of the way?
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>>292254021
What GPU/Driver? L4D2 runs fine on my macine.
The only game I've tried so far that ran like absolute ass was The Talos Principle, for some reason it doesn't like OpenGL at all, runs bad on OS X too.
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>>292248412
>Hating memes
>on 4chan

You have no chance to survive make your time.
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>>292254360
because it's the most recent game, and has a significantly larger playerbase so there are naturally gonna be more people in improving their experience by making mods.

they're not gonna make mods for a game they're bored of/enjoy less (oblivion/any other game) just because that game has better mod tools
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PRAISE GABEN!!!!!!!!!!

edit: Wow, thanks for the gold kind stranger! =D
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>>292250369
Nobody is forcing you to post here.
Why are you posting here?
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>>292253750
The problem with this is the content creator is still only getting 25%.

The problem with that is that it's basically a way for Valve and developers to sell additional DLC with absolutely no risk on their end, and incensing them to let modders finish the game for them.

25% is about what you'd make on the app store ,which provides QC and assistance, but more importantly it's a locked platform, so if you want to play ball it's app store or nothing.

This is why the Steambox exists. It's a way to further close the ecosystem. Ideally you will not be able to buy games, mods or dlc from anywhere other than steam.
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Gabe "money is how the community steers work" Newell
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>>292253983
Which is why I maintain that the real purpose behind this is to provide incentives for developers to reach out to the modding community instead.

This is more about getting devs to be open with codes than it is about getting modders to make profits.
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>>292254814
blame bethesda for taking 45%

content creators have been taking shitty cuts for making dota 2 / tf2 content for years and they've been pretty satisfied. don't know why it's a big deal here.

the only real problem is that mods interact with each other, and compatability issues between paid products will create a massive clusterfuck
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>>292254673
If they are not making it for money, then why does the player base for the game matter m8, much less when the tools for modding will result in less effective tools you can use.

If you were doing modding exclusively as a hobby logically you would be using the best tool, or do you think casual carpenders like using shitty saws because they are the new brand?
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>>292253362
He got a haircut.
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anyone got the pic with all the info on this and the best of the ama
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>>292255146
>If they are not making it for money, then why does the player base for the game matter m8
that wasn't my point. i'm saying a game with 10 players is gonna have fewer players become modders than a game with 100,000 players. that's why you see so many skyrim modders compared to oblivion modders.

>If you were doing modding exclusively as a hobby logically you would be using the best tool,
when you're making mods for a game because you want to improve that game, you don't get to choose what fucking tool you want. modders don't just roam around making mods for shitty games they hate just because that game has the best mod tools. they make mods for the games they play.
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>>292247201

Judging by his AMA on ribbit he seems really out of touch even though he claims he is "data driven" or whatever. Maybe he should let someone else in Valve take the reins?
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>everyone keeps blaming gabe and not this piece of shit
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>>292247201

He's a genius that is bring in a new era of games that center around user created content.
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>>292255925
kek
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>>292255863
Even Hale's fed up with his shit
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>>292255925
Screencapping this for future generations to laugh in dispair.
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>>292247367
>I just want tf2 economy back so its actually worth with to trade

That will never happen because the traders have moved to other games which valve actually gives a fuck about.
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>>292247379
>armor piercing
>not anti tank
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>>292247379
>anon claimed this post was a joke.
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>>292248231
>>292249105
if anyone's entitled here it's valve and bethesda
entitled to 75% of the profits from the work of a community that's been completely self-sufficient for decades
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>>292252347
law > eula
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>>292255508
And the point i'm making is that 100,000 player the pool for potential donors is larger despite your capacity to make mods for the game being smaller.

You do have a choice in what tools you use, people still make doom wads to this day, albeit it in much less frequency.
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I'm hoping they do the right thing. They've been receptive of criticism in the past, if they're as chill as I think they are, they'll change the system, or remove it
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>>292256160

Go ahead, history has proven the free market leads to freedom and success.
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>>292247201
I knew valve were a bunch of jews from the start. It's nice to see plebbit and /v/ see the truth for once.
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He was cool and still is cool.
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He was always a meme developer, literally only popular/known because he was fat, that was it. Then, it devolved into a personality worshipping cult. And we all know what happens when you follow a person because of their name instead of their deeds.
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>>292253167
I think there's a 24 hour refund, but even then, I've downloaded mods form nexus which break the game after several days
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>>292258202
and history has always been written by the conqueror, regardless of what truly transpires.
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>>292252559
This
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>>292247201
Remember when Valve made games?
Yeah. The hell happened there?
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Gabe is completely fucking clueless of the situation

Seriously, he thought his popularity alone would calm people down and when he realized that wouldn't be the case he fucked off.
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>>292247201

Never cared for him.
When steam was introduced I laughed
Years later this happens

I expected as much and he's proving to be fucker that might end PC gaming instead of saving it.

Steam was always a concentration death camp for PC gaming. To bad they can't flip the switched without anyone noticing.
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>>292247201
poser
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He was a brilliant business man pre steam days, when he worked with Windows then moved onto steam.

Now he has lost his mind. His business tactics today are reduced to the typical communist college freshman.
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>>292247574
I'm not sure anymore. Sounds like nothing will be done and we'll have to deal with it.
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>>292247201
Fat fucking kike. Also the dust hasn't settled yet.
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>>292247201
I have no issue with the payed modding thing, except maybe the percents could use adjusting.

You can still offer mods for free if you want, or a pay whatever you want option, and if you offer it for money then you, valve, and the publisher of the game all get money for the sale.

The percents might need some adjusting, but I think its pretty cool that this is possible. Modders do a shitload of work and rarely got rewarded for it outside of fringe cases like dota and counterstrike and all that good stuff.
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>>292247869
he's slowly turning into a woman
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>>292247201

fat jew
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>>292252659
>Are we that bad?

Do you even have to ask?
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More and more bullshit and less and less Half-life.

Shit.
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>>292256858
kek. 9/10.
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>>292247201
He had a lot of good will from the community and now he's lost it. Whether this will be forever or not remains to be seen.
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>>292247869
this

get raped i guess
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It's what you sperglords deserve for romanticising business people/developer/publisher/obese business people so what did you expect...

Even if I'm satisfied with a product or service I'm always in doubt or do not sperg out about it.

Don't be like cucks from neogaf who talk about the most trivial shit no normal consumer should ever care about at all. Imagine a group of really boring people talking about Media Create, NPD sales numbers. People who don't own stocks or are in any way, shape or form involved in the videogame industry other than owning a mass produced entertainment product; the world's most boring people who care way too much about multi-billion dollar corporations.

If you follow these rules you won't ever be disappointed.
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I don't like him
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>>292247201
I've seen several interviews of him talking and enjoyed what he had to say. He definitely is a smart person. However, I realize now that I misinterpreted what he said on a few topics. For example, I once heard about him speaking very highly of user created content and how it's going to get bigger and bigger. I agreed because I know that there's so much potential for these games that allow players to create their own content from Starcraft custom maps to LBP to rom hacks. But now I know he spoke of it from a business point of view where you can just get people to make content in Dota and now mods and make entire profit from them. Content like simple models, etc. and not something that is essentially a brand new game inside of a game, such as Warcraft 3 custom maps. He was talking about nickle and dime-ing while I thought he spoke of how to improve the quality of games as a whole.

Still I believe that tons of people are overreacting to this entire mod thing. That said I agree with them that how Valve is handling paid mods is just a greedy cash grab, and same goes for most modders who have posted their content on Steam, short of the joke ones. Paid mods is just the next retarded idea steam has pushed out and so long future games aren't made with the intent of mods being paid only with a cut of the revenue going to the publisher we should be fine.

>>292248231
>Anyone who had his opinion of Gabe changed by this thing, is an overreacting idiot.
Personally, my opinion did change but as pointed out, it's because I discovered that I misinterpreted his entire mindset on user created content. I agree with you that most people who are changing their minds are idiots though.
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>>292262219
French people get circumcised? Ew
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I don't know if he was always an asshole and was just way better at hiding it or if that's a recent development, but fuck him. Steam is garbage now and he's as greedy as scum like Comcast and oil companies. Between this paid mods bullshit and him saying that they have not been and are not working on Half Life 3 with no plans to do so at all are too much to put up with.
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>>292247201
He lived long enough to see himself become the villain.
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>>292247201
jew fat faggot he is dead for me
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He doesn't care about communities, it's all about money.

He's the "Savior of Gaming"? Bullshit, nobody is anymore. Either they're a sell out, quit, or were removed by their company.
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>>292247201
I don't think this is Gaben's fault at all.

I think this is probably some shithead who thinks he knows better than what the community wants like Doug.
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>>292262537
We don't.
Well, I'm not circumcised, at least.
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>>292262537
No, they don't and you can clearly see the foreskin mate.

Also, just now noticed the file name - it's South Korea obviously... not Japan.
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>>292247201
>Now that the dust has settled
Fuck off with this meme. Jesus Christ.
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>>292262883
>>292263042
looks like scar tissue in the drawing
only the korean one has a clear foreskin
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>>292247201
The dust has far from settled. Give it a couple more days.
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IS there even any good people left in the industry?
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>>292247201
He said something stupid and made workshop a pile of garbage

Eh, it's not that bad
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>>292247201
Does anyone think this might give an incentive to big shots like EA to release modding tools for their games?
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>>292263420
EA is far from redeemable. They are so far below ground that it would take three decades of good, honest games to clean their rep.
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>>292263567
This.

You don't go from Worst Company in America to savior of gaming just because you make a few right choices.
If anything EA is probably thinking of doing this on its own so it can charge for mods, too.
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>>292263042
>almost all of them self reported
>Chile, Peru, and Bolivia implying they have 6 inches or over
I don't buy it for one fucking second. I've been to those countries, everyone there is 5 feet tall or shorter. They're fucking midgets, no way are they 6 inch average.
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>>292251516
>faggot
>has a fucking snake wrapped around his neck and is wearing a tiger skin he probably killed and skinned with his bare hands
ok man
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>>292247201
For someone so rich, you think he would hire an image consultant.

The guy certainly doesnt look like a million bucks, let alone a billion
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>fat neckbeards paying $50 for a Skyrim horsepussy mod
>master race
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I don't know why you guys praised him so much to begin with. You had to know that he would go down this rout eventually because he's a goddamn businessman.
It's how things go.
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>>292263859
>fat neckbeards posting on mongolian motion pictures forum
>master race
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>>292247201
A man that gets all the shit Valve does even though its a large company and Gaben is not even working as a boss, (even though he is the owner) but a fellow worker because of the strange company structure everybody should google out. (Google: Valve has no bosses)

Media face, easy to like, great success story as a background, smart and handsome. Fatty fat fat where is HL3 I can meme too.
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>>292247201
hes the inafune of the west

a businessman you can respect
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>>292263567
Yeah, but I'm thinking that the idea to monetize mods might finally force their inner jew to release mod tools for their games. Imagine the frostbite battlefields getting mod tools.
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>>292247201
Maybe greedy but definitely naive.
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>>292252659
Its like you arent even in this thread...
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>>292264147
>media face

not really, the man fucking stutters when holding speeches in large crowds
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>>292249105
I've never used Steam unless I absolutely had to.
Kill yourself, shill
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>>292264005
It's the same reason why Nintendo babbies turned Reggie into a meme mascot even though he's nothing more than a businessman and PR person. They think these guys are their friend because they are children, possibly even autistic, and can't comprehend that people working in the video game industry at the executive level probably don't actually give a shit what the product is because they're old and don't play these games anyway. If Gabe ever played or loved video games, that was long, long time ago. It should be evidence enough that he doesn't now since his company doesn't even make them anymore.
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Even without the mod shitstorm, every year without Half-Life 3 makes me hate him more.
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>>292247367
>have fun trading 2.33 metal for keys
>stop trading when it inflated to 5.33
>come back last month just to check on things
>keys are worth 17.33
How people still trade is beyond me. This inflation puts the Soviets to shame.
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>>292258202
>implying it wasn't free already
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>>292247201
He's the Nick Clegg of the gaming industry.

He sat back and pretended to be this friendly face, but he was a greedy cunt like every other CEO.

He's been showing his hand for years, though. The slow monopolisation of PC gaming, the fact Valve only ever release cash cows now and the F2P re-release of TF2 were all running up to this paid mod bullshit.
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>>292264575
Half-Life 3 is never happening, he said so himself last month. He confirmed they haven't even been working on it and that he's not interested in doing it because it isn't profitable.
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>>292264896
>he's not interested in doing it because it isn't profitable
Source, because Half-Life 3 would print them money.
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>>292264538
About fucking time this was said.
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Good points:
- Excellent predictor of industry trends
- VR shit is cool
- Nice beard
- Peddles cheap games
- Supports linux and FOSS

Bad points
- Supports intrusive DRM
- HL2ep2 is almost 8 years old
- Attempts to circumvent EU rights on returns
- Approved paid mods in the workshop
- Holds up a mirror to the community and allows us to see the inner jew

Overall 9.5/10 he's OK
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>>292247367
>>292264580
I cashed out and bought a pair of buds for 26 keys
That post Halloween key/metal crash was insane
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>>292252516
>>292252380
>>292251894
It's 2^3chan you slack jawed faggots.
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>ever liking this hook nose kike

HI NEO /v/
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>>292262219
This. Historically speaking any business can go full retard at any time. The quality of developers or PR people do not govern the actions of a entire company. Management from the past can be removed with Sales and Marketing people who gives no shit about about the past consumer. When Companies do all of these they are looking at it from the perspective from supplies.

In the eyes of a company paid mod, Evolve-tier cash shops, and the other shit that they are doing to you makes. From perspective from a supplier, all of those cash grabs make senses to a company. You have to be a massive cuck to put your rights as a consumer over the corporations when you don't work for them or have stocks for them.
.
Brand Loyalty will always be a cancer.
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>>292264987
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/19/gabe-newell-discusses-possibility-of-half-life-3
There's the interview from last month.
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>>292250076

Kissing a girl?
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>>292253273
Have you been to any 4chan AMA threads before?

They're a fucking mess, mods can't manage it.
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>>292255863
What did Robin Walker do?
>>
never saw him or valve as gods or anything autistic like that
I mean I don't thank cox for giving me HBO for free every year I bitch at them for their shitty cable boxes or thank my local pizza joint for selling great barbecue pizza when it's the cooks who make it not the franchise itself
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>>292265480
Get real.

Prior to the Industrial revolution how many children worked?

All of them...

By the time of The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 child labor was already wiped out. Only a very small percentage(10-15%; the majority of which was agricultural) of children aged 8-15 were left in the workforce.

Why?

About 1 million children age 10 to 15 were working in America in 1920 (out of a total population of 12 million kids in that age range). About half worked on family farms. That is 4% that did everything else, working in factories, trained as apprentices, and served as messengers.

Technological innovations created a demand for skilled laborers and created a fall in demand of unskilled children. Also, adults are already hard to manage as it is, can you imagine how easy it is for a factory manager to take care of kids? And the adults who had children were more wealthy to be able to provide for their children without them in the workplace. Because, you-know who wants that for their kids?

By the time a law was created, child labor was already non-existent.

You so confident about the efficacy of your child labor laws...

Imagine going to some poor african country and passing a law against child labor. Is that going to stop child labor? Not a chance.
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I like the guy, he made cool games, I don't play too many games that use mods, but I think the decision is pretty bad, but I'm not gonna boycott him.

It's actually pretty refreshing too see a good majority of /v/ be in uproar over this, it's a long overdue sign that we still care about video games and not petty SJW shit
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1: created steam, and pretty much is the reason half of my game library was gotten so cheap
2: created steam, and if that goes down so does half of my game library
3:
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>>292255863
>CEO
>has the power to start and stop this
>not taking the blame
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reminder that none of this would've happened if you faggots hadn't bought in to the early access and indie shit and hadn't distanced yourselves from traditional AAA publishers
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A business man who will do everything he can to make money

as a consumer I strongly dislike him, from an unbiased standpoint I have no opinion
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>>292266652
This wouldn't of happened if AAA titles weren't so shit that they absolutely need mods to become playable.
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>>292247201
he was a false god, the true god still will have to reveal themself
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>>292264538
Well said.
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After years of /v/ sucking this fat man's microscopic cock, listening to your collective ass-pain brings me great pleasure.

I don't deluge my library with cheap steam games like the rest of /v/ does (I have ~50 games on steam, ~20 GOG) so I have less of a financial investment in it to make me lose my shit like some people here and on lereddit the last few days.

All it does is reinforce in my mind that Valve is intellectually and creatively bankrupt. My first thoughts were that this was yet another way for valve to monopolize the PC marketspace and offer less of an incentive to make new software, or offer better services on their own proprietary steam platform. They're hacks; they've been hacks for years. People are hopefully going to be more aware of this in the coming months.
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>>292247201
Never liked him, still don't. DRM was a stupid idea and was the foundation for his monopoly scheme.

He released a unfinished sequel because some fuck leaked the alpha, the bought a mod which he immediately abandoned (alien swarm), he helped turn a simple team based shoote rinto some stupid cosmetic dress up game with exploitive economy and has done this to two other games to boot and now he wants to dip into hardware and hopefully consume microsoft's market by using linux as a foundation for more exploitation.
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>>292258202
>Free market
>Steam basically owns PC gaming and do they want, the way they want, and nothing can change that and no one can complain about that, because if they want to play 90% of the PC games they have to play them through steam
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>>292252347

There was a legal fag in another thread explaining this stuff yesterday. EULAs are ultimately at the mercy of copyright laws.
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>All this Schadenfreude is I'm feeling right now.

He is, and always has been, a hypocrite. I have always felt that GabeN and Valve have carried themselves with an arrogant, "holier-than-thou" demeanor.

Their games are successful because they exploit the addiction-prone, coercing them into spending money on hats, crates, or whatever other Skinner-box token they feel can net them the most cash. And that's fine. That's not a problem.

What is a problem is how they then turn and shit all over other studios, arrogantly promoting their bullshit "culture" and their obnoxious handbook for employees.

They're a glorified cult deserving of the pain they're in right now.
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>>292267331
>>292267725
That's a pretty enlightened opinion. Glad to see some of you have the intelligence to see this.
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Remember that brief period where /v/ thought they won?
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>>292247201
fucking newfag on all the Gabe shit.
Can anyone explain what he did bad?
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>>292247201

We worked for Microsoft, he is the bearer of the curse and dont want to go hollow
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>>292266794
Imagine if the unofficial patches get sold buying patches, the shit storm that bethesda won't come out of hiding to fix what they initially started. Skyrim dies and if the next elder scrolls isn't patched correctly looks like we're paying for unofficial patches. It will literally sink Bethesda over night knowing people have to pay for patches that are obvious fuck ups on the main companies part. Their half finished games will crumble and no one will play them because who the fuck wants to pay for a patch to a bug they should have fixed in the beginning.
Also if they patch now it will break most mods including all the patches,SKSE,FNIS,Scriptdragon and most versions of ENB that rely on lighting mods, the only thing left unharmed is what is already sold by other games. Skins nothing that actually fixes or changes the game just fucking skins and not even good ones at that all the ones with script and particle effects are broken because of the patch they implement if they intend to fix the problems or patch out nonworkshop.

They will either break all mods with trying to fix the problem unofficial patches have done or break them by implementing nonworkshop mods and forcing you to feed them everything or have nothing also having to give them your bank info to even put shit on the workshop for free.

They will kill any real form of modding to push in nothing but shit skins no one cares about.
They will kill it and everyone let it happen, no one is on the right side of this. At this point not even modders deserve a donation button they deserve nothing because they are letting this happen. It has shown us fully how big of a piece of shit the whole community and industry is. This is the tipping point and we are in the middle of the crash. Brace for impact and be warned propping up another company will only repeat this. Do not support sign ups for side shit you don't need this is how steam begun and how everyone followed.
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