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Glad you could bake it, uther
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>>290440315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWJNu-IllU
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La luz es mi fuerza
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Warcraft 3 thread?
I always thought this was a airport's blue sock pole, which attack icons confused you /v/ ?
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>>290442169
that sex doll miscellaneous item, it always confused me. Until i noticed it was actually a boob with a nipple.
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>>290442169

It was always a fishing net to me.

I never actually looked hard enough to see what actually was, and while I didn't play the original warcrafts I regret this, I was playing shit like it at that time I just never picked them up, I mained a warrior in WoW since vanilla so you think I would've figured it out.
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>>290440315
wow thread anyone?
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>>290442169
Every fucking time
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>>290442169
impale

I thought it was an upside down arm blade thing that the crypt lords have, then I realized the icon was supposed to be the unicorn horn type blade the crypt lords have on their skulls. And the actual implementation of the spell in the game is confusing too. The spell is not even the arm blades or the horn blade, the spell is magical spikes that come out the ground.
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>>290442169
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>>290442169

Until very recently, I always thought disarm was showing some sort of crescent axe.
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>>290442169
Still no idea
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>>290443321
Its a helmet, i thought it was a pruple glowing knee
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>>290443321
GRIFFIIIITH
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>>290440315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wViQFlah_pU#t=68

Shut up Arthas, There's big booby bombs.
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>>290443321
Night elf wearing their helm, light emenating from where their eye would be
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>>290443321
Isn't that just a night elf wardens head from the side with a glowing eye?
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>>290443663
>that image
Is this some custom campaigning i never heard about?
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>>290443510
He's never getting off of the boat. The very next chapter is perfect for him to get off too.
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I miss old WoW :(
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>>290443841
Mah nigga

Seriously, this is a broken silver cart wheel
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>>290442169
Looked more like a blue seashell to me...
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>>290443821
I googled ''Warcraft 3 load screen maps'' And variations of it. I took a peek and it's nothing much.
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>>290444102
Always fun to see how the WC3 maps compared to the WoW map
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>>290443841
Red blade slashing through flesh covered in armour.

>>290443992
Das a hammer in motion

>>290442169
Das a sword in motion

>>290443465
Blue anthropomorphic figure running holding light blue whip/device thing.

>>290444058
Niggah das a bear paw

>>290443614
Fucking stumped.
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>>290443992
OH ITS A HAMMER
ITS A HAMMER MOVING!!

OH MY GOD
ITS BEEN MORE THAN A DECADE AND I JUST REALISED
OH GOD THIS FEELS BETTER THAN WHAT I IMAGINE SEX FEELS LIKE
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>>290444196
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>>290444058
I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS SOME KIND OF RIPPING CLEAVER THING BUT
ITS A PAW WHAT
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>>290444310
Fucking died.
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>>290443321
Dude, that's Griffith after they rescued him from the torture dungeons
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>>290444102
>>290444471
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I always thought this was a sewer pipe, took me a while to realise its actually a head
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I was going to post that I could never discern what this fucking was supposed to be. But then I finally got it after I upscaled it a bunch, now I feel like a retard.
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>>290442169
I STILL don't know what that icon is supposed to be.
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Friendly reminder that World of Warcraft ruined Warcraft
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Warcraft 3 and WoW inspired me to creative fantasy RPG maps. Please, post more warcraft map porn.
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>>290444752
It's a crying bird, right?
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>>290444231
>Blue anthropomorphic figure running holding light blue whip/device thing.
Nigga no. That's two archers standing in blue smoke.
The thing on the left is an arm holding a bow.
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>>290444620
The way the mountains are shaped always make me think of another game. I can't remember what though. Maybe a tycoon game?
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I started playing the campaign a couple weeks back since I never finished or even played it as a teen.

Why is this game so fucking GOAT ? The Lore, the Story, the twists, the characters, why is everything so fucking great ? I'm at the mission where I have to defend the life tree from Archimonde now but I've had enough for today and I'm guessing it's the final so I'm looking forward doing it tomorrow during prime time in the evening.
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>>290445020
I forgot, is this supposed to be mulgore or durotar?
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>>290445132
Dustwallow i think
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>>290444782
>DING
>It is done!
Every time.
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>>290444886
Because it's a dumbed down RTS (for dummies like yourself) that gave birth to the abomination that is DotA
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>>290443321
>GRIFFITH
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>>290444810

Here, But more for trying to figure out how to make a city builder out of it. Try and manage a Horde outpost or some shit while you have no direct control over troops.

Warcraft Tropico or something.
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>>290444620

I can't wait until the view distance actually gets that big and you can see across the entire continents. I remember when I had a bad computer and everything was just a fucking fog after like 80 yards. I finally got an actual gaming PC around the launch of cata and actually being able to see things in the distance blew my fucking mind.

Not nearly as much as returning to morrowind without the view distance fog though. Now that was fucking cray.
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>>290444782
>suspenderoni your pepperoni
Every damn time.
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>>290445434
they look so small now...

they seemed huge when i was younger
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>>290445472
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>>290445472
too bad the world is fucking terribly made and nothing transitions smoothly and it all looks terrible
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>>290445485
It's her finger inside an armored glove
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>>290445434
This map on hard mode is a nightmare.
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>>290445918
Actually is her mouth kissing an arrow
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>>290445792
>>290445878

But they'll fix it in cataclysm 2: cataclysmic boogaloo!
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>>290445485
>>290445918
>>290446007
Now it's a Warden/nightsaber rider going ''Sssh''
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Swamp zones are the worst. Prove me wrong
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>>290443321
Always looked like a laser pistol.
I'd expect the Covenant to be using stuff like that.
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>>290446007
>>290445918

ITS HER KISSING A GLOVED FINGER

COMPROMISE WINS AGAIN

that's also what it is
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>>290446159
I counter with

>desert zones
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>HUfag towerushing me on TR
Fuck you and your mom if you ever did that
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>>290446226
she's shushing with her finger, like when you want to tell someone to shut up without saying shut up. spell's called silence for a reason nigga.
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>>290446159

They are because todays shit graphics (especially wow graphics) can't do fog and lighting worth shit and it just looks like bad view distance sort of fog.
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>>290446350
My favorite thing to do in that game was ghouls.

>dreadlord
>sleep and lifesteal
>build 3 barracks
>Just auto pump ghouls at the enemy base.
>drown them in the tide
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Wrath was the true end of WoW.
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damn it i almost want to play again. just to quest though. best private server for solo action?
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who /horde/ here?
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>>290443614
It's a smashed skull.
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>>290446416
WoW uses fog to cover up how insanely small the world actually is.
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>>290446634
>MMO
>solo
Go play retail
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>>290446615
Wrath had good moments though. Cata and everything afterwards was unabashed trash
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>>290446648
w/Horde here
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>>290446614
>dreadlord
>sleep and lifesteal
Never climbed above lvl 30 I take it?
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>>290446648
I hope you're not literally asking if someone here goes to a sub-reddit dedicated to the Horde
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>>290446723
3.1 was good yes, otherwise it ranged from mediocre to absolute garbage
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>>290443614
it's a skellington in some mud or something. got dispeled, I guess?
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>>290446614
Dreadlord was trash except for Infernal. Any other hero is better.
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>>290446818
I am asking who loves to play with horde related characters in general, either competitive, just for fun, or the MMO
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>>290446818
hownew.ru
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>>290446805
>lvl
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>>290446905
>>290443614
Blinding light crumbling a skeleton.
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>>290446905

It's an Orc skull that went boom.>>290447027
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>>290447002
New to Reddit? Very new, i take it you're not
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>>290446805
Honestly i never really played it. I was to busy playing parasite and dota. Do you really think i was bragging about how great i was for spamming the first tier unit?

>>290446939
Yeah but he worked pretty damn well when the only thing youre making is ghouls.
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>>290447071
but what does an exploding skull have to do with disenchanting?
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>>290447008
Yes, Battle.net ladder level, dumbo
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>>290444620
Gentlemen, how do we fix Quel'Thalas?

-purify the ghostlands (using the same hax they did in the Plaguelands)
-raze Deatholme to the fucking ground and below. Blow up the stones, and burn the ground till it's necessary.
-if the soil in the dead scar is really unsalvageable, then collect the tainted soil maybe to a containment area or just trash it into the twisting nether. Either replace it with plain ground or flood it with water. Stron patrols or automated undead-dispensing devices (goblins will build those) will be required.
-troll areas: kill the wild trolls, destroy the encampments. Reclaim Zul'Aman, maybe populate it with Horde trolls
-kill all the wretched, and rebuild the second part of silvermoon.
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official custom game power ranking list

>god tier
footman wars
uthers party

>good tier
darwin island
rabbit vs. sheep

>shit tier
fight of characters
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>>290447206
No no no no they ruined PL, they're fucking shit now
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>>290446723

Nah man, the first 2-3 months of cata were the best since BC.

Playing a polished MMO that actually required CC and smart play again was fucking amazing. Wrath babbies couldn't cope though and the flood of tears on the forum destroyed all hope blizzard had of uncasualizing the game. After that they just gave up, the casuals were obviously the majority, and they were the easiest to please. From a business stand point, who can blame them. But otherwise, FUCK!!!!
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>>290447236
>no troll tribes
>no parasite
>no sheep tag
my gaydar just went off the charts.
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>tfw probably the oldest WoW account ITT

fucking 10 years where have they gone
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>>290447493
faggot
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>mfw vanilla
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>>290447301
the whole cata world is shit, fuck them for ruining westfall.
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>>290445434
one of the best maps of the campaign
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>>290447673
Nostalrius?
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>>290442169
Blizzard is still using these 64x64 icons in World of Warcraft.

FFS come on guys.
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>>290447647

that'd be an acceptable statement if i was in fact just pretending, but i have account history to prove it so fuck off
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>>290447173
Idk. Ask blizz i guess.
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>those character intro's in WoD
>the feeling/design of blackrock foundry, grimrail depot, etc

some one at blizzard really liked borderlands.
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>>290445434
Do the undead and naga even bother fighting each other or do they just all dogpile on you?
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>>290447815
ye
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>>290447236
I've always been interested in seeing somebody try to compile an image like this for SC1 custom games. There's a couple standouts (Sunken TD, Diplomacy, DBZ RPG, etc.) but SC1 was full of weird, off the wall games usually themed after mid 90's to early 2000's culture.
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>>290447927
''Iseedeadpeople'' - ''riseandshine''. See for your self lol.
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>>290447194
I'm dumb because you're too lazy to type "level"
Short hand doesn't exist anymore
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>>290447173
Disenchanting deals damage to all summoned creatures. Thats why necromancers were the most useless units in all of the Wc3.
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>>290448084
aw man ninjas vs samurai was the shit.
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>>290445472
When I was in Orgimmar and I could see the World Tree in the distance it was quite awesome.
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>playing on vanilla private server as healer
>join group for DM
>warlock spamming life tap and using fear to cc
>resto druid as a tank
>hunter that pulls when no one is ready

I'm almost enjoying my anger.
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>>290448086
Aww shit sorry man, it's hard for us old men to keep us with cool internet kids nowadays.
Do you say lol? I remember saying lol or even rofl in my days...
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>>290447921
Those were my thought exactly.

And the arrakoa's sun-light-beam-gun-thingy is just like the Eye of Helios (Jack planned to use it to incinerate bandit camps from above, the adherents do the same with the flightless arrakoa towns)

Oh, and remember the large ass siege weapon that the iron horde wanted to transport to Azeroth, but we used it to destroy the portal?
www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Great_Gate
Just like this one.
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Dorf mage
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>>290448336
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>>290445878
>>290445662

obviously blizzard never really expected people to actually see that far in the normal game but all they need to do is add some effects and it could look decent from a distance. Edges need to be softened/blurred, and a light fog/dust that doesn't obscure vision, but gives the appearance of just an atmosphere and distance would do wonders.
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>>290448614
Disgusting
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>>290448640
10/10
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'Harken cur! Just because you're here once more.
You think your chance will be any greater than before!
TRY GET MY MOUNT. YOU'LL NEVER HAVE IT ON YOUR ACCOUNT!
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>>290448491

>not a dude covering his mouth with his hand
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>>290446905
Oh shit. I always thought it was some kind of bird/dinosaur head.
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>>290448426
As someone who began communicating with other people over the internet during the era of AIM around 17 years ago, I know very well that people were using "lol" "lmao" and "rofl" more than necessary

it was also the age that meant whenever I wanted to talk to a cute asian girl online, I had to endure alternating capital letters, elaborate emoticons and alt-codes, and racism
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>>290448986
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>>290448986

Samwise/10
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>>290448084
SC1 was only ever dominated by TDs, they were the ASSFAGGOTS of their time. You had a lot of zombie maps too but overall I'd say you're right, it just had a lot of unique maps, simpler than the ones in WC3 but they never really got recreated there

>A Day At School RPG
>Grocery Store Wars
>Resident Evil Raccoon City
>SWAT (not like the NOTD maps, you had one team as SWAT and another as terrorists with hostages in a big ass house)
>Smash TV
>Dynasty Warriors maps (precursors to ASSFAGGOTS I guess but not really)
>tons of zombie defense maps in general

I'm forgetting a lot but my final days with SC1 customs were in 2004 or so.
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>>290446905
MINDFUCKINGBLOWN
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>>290448084
Which of these were the most interesting to watch?
I only got into Warcraft after like 2010 so I;m interested in seeing what I missed from the glory days.
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I've always thought this was an evil ghost hiding behind a gravestone, is it what it is?
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>>290448986

>that bug a few months back where you could post icons in chat, and at massive sizes that flooded out of the chat window and took up half your screen

That shit was great. Sadly this is the only image I had from it for whatever reason
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>>290450035
It's the caster hiding behind a grave to pretend that he's dead.
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>>290449253

>Smash TV

holy shit my nigga

I also played those helms deep SC1 maps too, some were pretty gud
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>>290442169
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>>290450085
The Big Murlocski
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>>290450035
>that mustache
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>Cut capitol cities
>Cut Shattrath raid
>Cut Tanaan
>Cut Farahlon
>Butchered Gorgrond
>Fucked up Ashran
>Delayed launch raids
>Released a patch with nothing but a couple of small features, most of which were promised at launch
I haven't played since January and I'm still mad.
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>>290450473
I thought the hand was a book and the cuff was some fancy bookmark hanging off it
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>>290442169
I STILL don't know if this is a hand or a man being burned alive
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>>290450085
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>>290450638
Blizzard are worse than jews
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>>290450805
This has to be bait. It's obviously a hand.
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>>290445274
in what way is it dumbed down?
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>>290448084
Spellcraft was the shit.

>implying my serpent wards aren't going to rape you
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I used to think this was a bone with some purple bits of tendon/muscle fibre.
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>>290449862
The actual fuck is this supposed to be.
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>>290450085
I remember that
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>>290444657
I can't un see
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>>290448828
I use that mount all the time. It's the best because it doesn't have any sound to it when flying.
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>>290451205
I thought it was a blade in a purple sheathe until this moment.
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>>290445274
>dumbed down RTS
>infinitely more complex than Starcraft
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>>290451236
Think it's actually a worm in an apple
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>>290448828
Nigga I just want the Baron's dreadsteed. I've wanted that fucking thing ever since I first saw the Undead epic mounts in Vanilla, and to this day I have never owned that horse on any character, and I've never had a max-level Undead because that would ruin the fun IMO.

to this day, undead epic mount still the coolest mount in the game
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I, uh, downloaded the official WC3 asset dump for SC2.
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>>290453335
MORE
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you guys have gotta help me.
what the fuck was the goblin shredder icon supposed to be
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>>290453335

Any modders do anything significant with it yet?

>Mfw DBZ Tribute in SC2 engine
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>>290453802
its a picture of the shredder looking up
http://media.playdota.com/hero/136/character.gif
see look the 2 horns you can see are the things sticking out and the two green things are the green things you see on top
i think
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>>290453802
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>>290454086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcioVsilAdw
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>>290453335
>That face
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>tfw no warcraft 4

Life is suffering for rts fags
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>>290442169
>>290447846
They've been using those icons from the Warcraft 2-3 days.

They are even using 20+ year old icons in Heroes of the Storm.
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>>290454146
I... I think I see it! I have no idea why they chose that angle but i can see it
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>>290454718
You're welcome.
>>290454621
Getting WC4 and it being bad would just make me feel worse than not having it.
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>>290453802
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>>290448986
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>>290453468
They redid all the race heroes, Anub'arak's face is weird as fuck. Also most of the portraits don't have their mouths flying all over the place when they talk like in WC3, it's a bit weird. Garithos still does

>>290454086
It just came out like two weeks ago and the SC2 custom games scene isn't very big and I haven't kept up with it. I know somebody finally remade WC3 but I haven't looked for anything else yet.
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>>290454887
I feel like warcraft 3 had immensely better storry telling than WoW. Wish we could get warcraft games of WoW expansions. I'd love to siege orgimmar or fight deathwing in warcraft.
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>>290455346
also I put in the marine and marauder to show how fucking huge the WC3 units are, they're too big and their movement looks off.
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>>290455346
>Garithos still does
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>>290455391
Where you're in charge of the whole raid as opposed to just 1 character. Maybe more than were used in WoW. It all sounds great, but I'm just so very afraid that, if they do make a sequel, no matter what, it'll be disappointing. I'd love to be shown otherwise though, don't get me wrong.
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>>290441065
This is fucking retarded.
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>>290447493
Hello KomodoDragon
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>>290447329
>Someone else who realized early cata was the last chance blizzard had of making WoW good again and the people ruined it by complaining.

Mah nigga.
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>>290455606
It'll disappoint the fans for sure. I don't think blizzard today could make a game that surpasses warcraft 3. Warcraft 3 had goat story and missons.
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>>290442169
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>>290456196
I'm crying...

>>290456454
You fags have got to stop. If you knew what trolls looked like you'd know.
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>>290445202
FUCKING IMPURE ELVES
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>>290456624
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>>290456624
Man games every storyline was good. Especially arthas's one was extremely good. Seeing arthas cull stratholme, betray muradin, slowly go insane on northrend. Simply GOAT.
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>>290457343
>in the Human campaign you do whatever you can to help save your kingdom
>experience Arthas' downfall as you slowly spiral to becoming insane
>get to continue his mayhem as an undead
>suddenly get to break down and destroy everything you tried to protect before

That shit was pretty fun.
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>>290446793
i'd fuck that
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>>290456196
This is why a HD remake, including Frozen Throne, better graphics and animations, better AI and playable naga race would be so great
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>>290457343
I remember watching my brother play the campaign, and we had to go to bed (was underage) after the first human cut scene with Medivh, where Arthas just tells him off
We spent at least an hour or two talking about the implications of that scene, to be hit with Stratholme the next morning, like holy shit.
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>>290457689
>all that brotherly love with uther during the human campaign
>killing him in the undead campaign

I cry errytime :'(

>>290457783
HD remake would be good and i think in warcraft 3 naga was a nearly complete race. I remember messing with the map editor and they had nearly everthing. Heroes n everything. I also demand a playable blood elf/high elf race, hell they should just add every race playable on WoW and the naga.
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>>290455146
and I thought I was the only one
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>>290458437
hell they should just add every race playable on WoW and the naga.
If they did that i wouldn't mind DLCs for each race, like a DLC for a Blood Elf campaign, and things related, no playable character/race DLCs thought, this way the competitive players would have a field day without needing to pay for shit, and the variety would be great
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>>290458624
I'd even take playable race/character dlcs. I just want more warcraft content man, shit was good.
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>>290446159

Artic/nordic zones are the best.
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>>290458310
Yeah, Arthas's campaign is really great, my least favorite W3 campaign has to be the Night Elf one thought, it made me realise how much i hate to play as night elfs
>That map/stage when you had to invade the enemy base using only your hero and regular archers
My favorite one has to be the one where you kill Cenarius with the Chaos Orcs, that shit was insane, it was the first map that really made me need to put some effort to win
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>>290447717

Yeah, fuck them giving a flow to the fucking story. What the hell was that shit?

I miss 6 disjointed farms that all wanted me to kill whatever was messing up their crops then going across the map to grab an item.
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>>290458887
Yeah, i just wish the competitive game wasn't such a race for money with barely any direct attacks, team games are really good thought
>mfw sending zeppelin to the enemy base when he is trying to defend one of his secondary bases against my army of Tauren and Shamans
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>>290459313
I'm pretty sure warcraft 3 wasn't made competitive play in mind. If they made a new one/hd remake they would probably fix that and tweak bunch of shit for competitive scene.
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Help /v/, I reinstalled warcraft 3 and now have the urge to replay WoW lower level dungeons like SM. Help me resist.
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>>290459616
Do you think they would do something about the maximum amount of select-able troops and formations thought? Age Of Empires did that right
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>>290459648
Play the campaign nigger, the dungeon levels are going to feed your deep, dark fantasies
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>>290459648
Scarlet Monastery is butchered.
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>discover custom campaigns
>bunch of them are actually fun as fuck
>tfw pic related will never be finished
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>>290459757
I dont really know but they probably would use the starcraft 2 engine. So yeah they would fix that issue.
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>>290459920
Which ones would you recomend me /v/, i tried a few, but they are too poorly made, are there any good custom campaigns with custom models? I love those
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>>290451205
>>290451443
I always though the purple part was the hilt until now
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>>290459905
Elaborate, I quit at cata. They better not have fucked over "ARISE MY CHAMPION".
>>290459878
I've done the campaign so many times already, I just wanted some quick bot skirmishes but it's pulling me back in.
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>>290459920
The rexxar campaign was so fucking fun, I remember playing that one and thinking it was almost like a stand alone RPG/RTS with a really good system of quests and open world where you could grow your characters and find challenges that met your increasing strength.

You don't really see that shit anymore at all, which is really sad.
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>>290459920
I remember there was this spider campaign that was based as fuck. Did it ever get finished? You played as a spider queen of sorts and over the quest line there was some white ghost spider you had to seek out.
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>>290444782
>Then I must consider this an act of seasoning.
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>>290460193
>"ARISE MY CHAMPION".
So good.
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>>290460097
Dwarf Campaign like that anon recommended. Decent amount of challenge, but expect a cliffhanger ending.

Shards of Resistance: The Raiders is also pretty good, even if the story is kind of stupid.
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>>290460193

>At your side, milady
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>>290460193
''Scarlet Monastery'' = GY and Cath as one.
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>>290460193
Pulling te boss doesn't agro the rest of the room any more.
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>>290460193
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>>290461039
You'll pay for your sins!
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>>290461429
>Get bored
>Decide to do cath again for funsies
>attack her
>Get swarmed to death but assloads of mobs
>Too embarassed to tell anyone I died
I can't rememeber if I was 70 or 80 though but I didn't know it at the time. That's fucked up they removed it.
>>290461312
What about armory and library?
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>>290450694
SHIT
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>post yfw "succeeding you, father"
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>>290460097
Just look at the most popular list on Hive Workshop. But there are some shitty ones there. I remember one that had a lot of custom content but it was a shitty alternate timeline fanfic with a mary sue and worgens crammed in.
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>>290461917

>The crown slowly rolls down the steps as Arthas turns heel
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>>290458018

HOLY SHIT I'M EXPERIENCING MASSIVE AMOUNT OF RADITAING NOSTALGIA.

FUCK YOU ANON WHY DID YOU POST THAT?
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>>290461917
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>>290461917
>>290462135
>everyone is happy because the crown prince is back
>king is happy because his son is back
>his son kills him and sacks the whole city

Shit was tight.
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Why jaina wanted to bang arthas so bad?
Even in WotLk she had hots for him
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>>290461823
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>>290462135

>blood from the crown is still present in the throne room in WoW
>you can hear the scene if you cut the music and sound and put ambient sound volume all the way up.
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>>290462441

If you turn off music and walk through that part of Undercity with Ambience way up, you can hear the people cheering and Arthas talking
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>>290462486
she wanted the arthas d so bad she cucked kael.
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>>290462486

Arthas and Jaina broke up prior to WC3 when Jaina basically gave him the cold shoulder

It wasn't until much later in a WoW novel that it was established that Arthas took her virginity and his dissatisfaction fueled his ambition for more power
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>>290462504
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>>290452079
Had a Private Server.
Always built the Malls there.

Good old spot behind Sithilus
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>>290462486
Because according to the Arthas novel, both of them were actually going to be married. They fucked one night, and afterwards Arthas decided he didn't want to get married.

He has more affection for his horse then he does her. I guess Arthas was a good lay though, because she kept putting up with his bullshit.

>mfw Kael'thas also wanted to bang Jaina
>mfw undead Arthas confronts Kael'thas and brags that he got Jaina which makes Kael'thas lose his concentration and get pissed
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbOayWUQ_c

Admit it, you hated it when it was around, but now you miss it.
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>>290463010

Maybe this time

Maybe this time i can log in before the dragon laFUCK
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>>290462953

It wasn't until WotLK content that Jaina got hot and heavy for Arthas dick (again?). Her romantic status wasn't brought up again until Thrall's wedding she is literally crying alone in a corner, and then after the Theramore bombing when the only people in the world who could placate her anger were big blue dragons with big blue dragon dicks.
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>>290440315
Watch your tone with me, boyardee. You may be the prince, but I'm still your superior as a chef!
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>>290462836
>It wasn't until much later in a WoW novel that it was established that Arthas took her virginity and his dissatisfaction fueled his ambition for more power
why warcraft novels are so fucked up?

I remember one in wich one wich that redhead dragongirl was raped by orcs to do mass eggproduction of dragons for the horde.
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>>290463190
Why is Jaina such a buzzword?
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>>290462953
>mfw undead Arthas confronts Kael'thas and brags that he got Jaina which makes Kael'thas lose his concentration and get pissed
source? I don't remember that
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>>290463269
>mfw that scene
>her human appearance in WoW
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>>290463190

Well now she's just legit nuts, she cleared the Sunreavers out of Dalaran and the ending to MoP has her trying to get Varian to jump the Horde while they're deciding who's the new Warchief.
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>>290462932
>tfw seeing all the cool hidden areas and spells
Seeing all the hidden developer stuff in games is the tightest shit.
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>>290463269

Are you talking about Alextrasza?
Yeah, she was the cumbucket of the Dragonmaws and she's still a fucking slut to this day.
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>>290447905
God damn ETC. Such fun to play.
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>>290463465
The novel. The two of them are fighting, and to get the upperhand, Arthas says something along the lines of him being the one that Jaina chose, which causes Kael'thas to stop fighting like an elf and makes him lose focus, which causes him to lose against him.

I can't remember if it was around the Sunwell part or when they're in Northrend.
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>>290447493

>12/18/2014

Nigger, if your earliest entry isn't 11/23/2004, you're a fucking casual.
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>>290463465
It's in the undead campaign when you first get to Northrend.
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>>290450035
a moustache ghost.
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>>290447493
Mine started in Jan 2005.

I don't want to pull up my battle.net account.
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>>290444782
this one is stupid. the one where they switch roles is much better.
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>>290463582
>wears a bikini and thighhighs at all times while her beta bf stands off to the side
kek
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>>290463535

She would have destroyed the entire Horde by now with calamity-tier magic, but instead Khadgar gave her his cushy job on the council and let her try to relieve her anger by taking it out on the Sunreavers. The plot literally had to throw bodies at her until she stopped wanting to destroy the Horde in its entirety. She has more cause to kill Thrall than Garrosh ever did.
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>>290462818
you can see the rose petals in the long stretch arthas walked through
you can see the blood splatter left from the crown
you can hear the bell tolling like it did if you stand near it
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>>290463874
the role switch one was never funny and 90% of the time it was one guy posting it every thread.
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>>290463713
>tfw couldn't get it for a couple of days
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>>290462953
>Videogame books
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>>290463960

>mfw she was about to unleash a masive tidal wave upon Orgrimmar after Theramore's incident
>mfw she was basically as powerful as Neptulon
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>>290463975
>You can hear arthas's speech with his father
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>>290440315
I JUST REINSTALLED STARCRAFT YOU FUCK LEAVE ME ALONE
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>>290464263
I thought she was going to bring in Dalaran and orbital bombbard the shit out of Orgrimaar.
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>>290464263
>Jaina can destroy Orgrimmar in a Tidal Wave
>the gnomes can make a nuke
>Velen is basically the uncorrupted brother of Archimonde and Kil'jaedan and essentially has power like theirs, but with light
>but no, we must keep the horde here anyways I guess
>why can't we beat those horde?
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>>290464187
the warcraft eu is pretty good aside from a few things.
>orc travels back in time to the well of eternity, gets a magical axe made from Cenarius's antlers or some shit, jumps through the portal and kills hundreds of demons, then becomes the only person to ever hurt sargeras
>med'an the chosen one draenei human orc shaman mage paladin guardian of tirisfal son of medivh and garona
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Okay a lore question here which one is the biggest human city;

Lordaeron or stormwind?
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>>290464790
>>290464790
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>>290464739
Didn't the king want to execute the leaders of the horde at the end of SoO?
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>>290464263

lore-wise, she was being tutored by the former Guardian of Tirisfal during vanilla - who wasn't heard again until a comic where she was killed off
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>>290464902
Stromgarde
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>>290464790
that orc is fucking Saurfang's older brother, so he's actually relevent.
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>>290443497
Wait fuck... thats a hand?! I thought it was a troll all this time...
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>>290450815
Jesus Christ.

just when I thought maymays couldn't get any more saturated
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>any of the magic the orcs had is now gone with how much blizzard is circlejerking around them
>trolls are now blue orcs
>taurens don't exist anymore
>forsaken are edgy and can backstab anyone at any given time
>blood elves still magic cocaine addicts
>goblins are jews but the lesser of evils

>humans still have a stick up their ass
>dwarves are in a similar situation the taurens are in
>gnomes can do some cool stuff, lets never make them do any of those cool things
>night elves are 10,000 years old, still somehow less experienced in war than human in their 30s
>draenei promised to have more stuff on them in WOD, this means one draenei paladin girl
>what's a worgen
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>>290464263
what the fuck happened to neptulon anyway? i know they canned his raid but did they really just leave it on a cliffhanger?
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>>290465147
Really? I always thought lordaeron was the biggest human city.
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>>290465217
It's a troll hand regenerating.

>>290464902
Stormwind.
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>>290464739

You forget

>Varian captured, tortured, enslaved, and forced to fight for his life in the Orgrimmar arena
>Varian still showing mercy to named orc npcs
>Varian still indirectly saving Garrosh from execution
>Varian still giving the Horde one last chance after all they did to him and his son
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Reminder that Arthas' last living relative, his sister Calia, died in Theramore
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>>290465056
He was about to. Then he decides "no, there must always be a horde."

It was Jaina that wanted the Horde dismantled.
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>>290465283
gnomes are faggots anyway so thank god they're not relevant
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>>290465212
saurfang is only relevant because he's an ancient meme.
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>>290465286

The Kingdom of Lordaeron was basically the Holy Roman Empire, and the city of Lordaeron just happened to be the ruling capital holding all the eggs at the time. Many of the cities were both populous and powerful, and just as wary of each other.
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>>290465363
Reminder that no one cares, at all, ever, about arthas' family.
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>>290465254
It's shopped. The item exists but it's a useless grey item.
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>>290465407
That and he's one of the few veterans still alive from the first three wars.
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>>290465378
>There must always be a lich king
>There must always be a horde

You're really going to need to give people reasons if you want to pull that kind of bullshit, you don't just make that claim and end it there as if it's the most natural thing ever.
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>>290465590

>most loyal living patriot of the Horde
>some depressed manboy fagnut from Outland is appointed Warchief
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>>290464739
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>>290444752
>being a "pm'd you the fix ;)" faggot
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>>290465714
>there must always be a lich king

THE stupidest shit.

>no, if we kill the Lich King, the undead won't have a voice of reason and they'll destroy all of Azeroth

Why wouldn't the Lich King want to destroy Azeroth? Just kill everything and then take control of every single thing that you killed. Isn't that the fucking point?
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>>290465834
I still demand to know how the fuck that happened, Garrosh was fucking LAST in line for consideration.
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Heard you guys talking shit about me in Alterac Valley. Like I wouldn't find out.
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We all know that Arthas just pissed on the ashes of his father. What a faggot.
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>>290465943
they retconned it so that the lich king was its own entity and arthas was still there as a poor misunderstood hero keeping him from going all out and killing everyone.
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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>>290466059
He was Grom's son. That's all the criteria he needed.

It actually kind of baffles me realizing Garrosh is actually older than Thrall.
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>>290465943
Not to mention we had JUST all but obliterated the undead, what the fuck were the undead going to suddenly do that they weren't already doing before?
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The best feeling.
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>WC3 thread
>immediately turns into a WoW thread instead

Guess I'm not surprised considering how many fucking WoW nostalgia threads /v/ has had within the last year.

WoW ruined Warcraft, Blizzard, and MMOs all at once, it's disgusting that people hold it in high regard. And it's disgusting that you fall for the same old marketing and resub over and over, and enable Blizzard to keep being shit.
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>>290466059

Because Thrall thought people should give the son of the "orc who saved us all" a chance, just like people gave Thrall a chance. Except people didn't really give Thrall a chance as much as Orgrim Fucking Doomhammer fucking prodded him into growing a pair, then Motherfucking Medivh tossed him the free bone that should have gone to King Terenas, and THEN Greatfuckinggrandfather Cairne came along and said lets help these green motherfuckers out if they help us out
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>>290466178
Probably turn into super undead like apostles during the Eclipse. I dunno.
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>>290466059

The reasoning was "Well he IS Grom's son, sooooo..."

Thrall just sorta went "what could POSSIBLY go wrong?" and fucked off.
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>>290466132
>Be entirely dominated by the Lich King's will
>FUSE with the fucking Lich King
>Somehow this gives you more control over the Lich King and after all that has happened in WC3 you're now able to hold him back

Metzen, those are pants, they do not go on your head you fucking retard.
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>>290466178
A bunch of old rotting corpses and skeletons were going to wander around a barren wasteland, it was a huge problem even though there was a super weapon famous for turning loads of them into ash.
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>>290447134
On 4chan, the site which you seem to be new to, it is common for threads dedicated to a general topic to have a name in the form of /name/ as an imitation of the board name format. For example, /co/ has occasional threads about Disney in general, rather than a specific movie or topic from a movie, and these threads are often called /dis/. There are also more established threads that tend to have a continual clientele and are persistent with a new thread being created as soon as the previous one has died out, as seen in the threads of /vg/, for example, /ksg/, the Katawa Shoujo general, however such threads often devolve into little more than general chatrooms, with little discussion of the ostensible topic.

Dipshit.
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>>290466436
How the fuck were they going to get off of Northrend anyway?

Goblin/Dwarf/Gnome technology would wreck them without LK coordinating.
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>>290466298
I think it's inevitable. As much as I'd like to keep it strictly WC2 and WC3, it's hard not to talk about all the lore fuck ups that happen in WoW.
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>>290466313
>>290466347

>Fucked his own tribe to the point of extinction, they would have all been massacred if not for your intervention
>Consistently does excruciatingly stupid shit throughout WotLK
>GUYS GUYS, GIVE HIM A CHANCE
>????

He wasn't fit to clean chamberpots let alone lead people.
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>>290466589
Valkyries? Dragons?
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>>290466389
>FUSE with the fucking Lich King
oh did you not read the book? he didn't fuse with ner'zhul, he killed him and took complete control, then cut his own heart out which contained all his humanity and threw it off the frozen throne. but then the lich king was his own person and arthas was really a good guy keeping him in line. it doesn't make any sense.
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>>290466589
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Was Arthas justified in eliminating the town?
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>>290466760
Yeah, there was no other way. He started fucking up when he fell for the obvious trap of going to Northrend.
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>>290466756

That doesn't look like Howling Fjord at all
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>>290466934
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>>290466760
>Arthas has seen the effects of the plague firsthand
>Knew how sudden the transformation would occur
>Didn't have the forces to contain the plague and had to stop Malganis on top of that

There was literally no other option that would make any fucking sense, Uther is the biggest fucking cunt for fucking over Arthas for petty pride and some absurd sense of seniority. The fucking faggot was incompetent to the point of being incapable of making hard decisions and he would have let all of Lordaeron burn around him (and he technically did, his actions pushed Arthas over the brink as he could barely keep afloat and then his mentor figure did NOTHING BUT SABOTAGE HIM)

Fuck Uther, I'd kill him again and then piss on his remains.
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>>290466934
A lot of the Warcraft 3 maps look different than WoW maps. I think Darkshore is north of Hyjal in WC3.
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>>290458018
>>290467182
Here.
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>>290462731
>tfw spending days going around the entire world looking for references like this.
Don't "MUH RAIDING" or "MUH QUESTS", Classic WoW's world was the fucking best.
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>Leveling at the beginning of Wrath
>Get sent to Grizzly Hills
>Enter the zone for the first time
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpyInx0ldfo
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>>290467358
Not now anon, i can't handle the comfy feel
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>>290467358
>For some reason only a very small part of northrend is actually infested with undead after all this time, places like these remain pristine.
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>>290467358
>Wrath's music in general

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtjbOQdq-_k
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>>290467358

>mfw going to Winterspring for the first time
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best city?
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>>290467645
>there's a hot jungle in the continent known for being a frozen wasteland
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>>290467645
grizzly was brimmin with all sorts of other shit though, like trolls, rampaging raping dickwolfs and iron dwarfs
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>>290467867
If you did the zone you'd know why.
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>>290467783
Ironforge, Thunder Bluff, and Silvermoon will always be the goat cities.
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>>290465313
>Varian directly responsible for WoD happening
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>>290448084
Oh man fucking Tower Defense and "Are you a retard?"

I played all of this shit. I miss those days.
Now what do I have, a bunch of a games that have the same gamemode all over again, W3 was just the shit.
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>>290467173

Arthas employed a short term strategy to contain the outbreak by performing a holocaust, and it worked in the short term. But by taking away the threat in the short term, he made the entire kingdom blind to the greater long term threat and lured it into a false sense of security.

The irony is if he just let Uther stay and witness the entire ordeal, and if he obeyed the moral code of the paladins like he was supposed to, then the entire Alliance would have just cause to reform and mobilize to directly confront the Scourge. And maybe King Terenas would have reconsidered Medivh's warning and used Lordaeron's and Kul'Tiras' fleets to emigrate people to Kalimdor in preparation for the final battle.
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>>290467783
>untextured shitty beta build
pleb pls
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>>290467867

Didn't Sholazar get some sort of special Titan treatment?
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>>290467942
something about magic titan bullshit, it's still stupid.
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where do i get them maps
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>>290468085

Run, Kitty, Run was my favorite. The sped up Linkin Park-tier music was fucking hilarious.

I still play Kobold tribes on Starcraft 2. This shit is tight.
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>>290467358
>Howling Fjord
>Grizzly Hills

Fuck, the absolute best.
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>>290468272
I need to get back into SC2 custom games. I did enjoy them for a while, especially the brief trend of customizable spaceship battle games.
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>that feel when you were the only one amongst your group of friends that played with music and ambience on
>you were the only one that got to hear this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GG323s_CaQ
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>>290468272
Hilarious to my 14 years old self maybe.
But today It'd be pain in the ass.
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>>290468091
Except if Uther had just made the case of how bad shit was getting and how desperate shit really was that they had to purge all of stratholme, rather than going full retard and making Arthas out to be the problem, this would've been resolved without any escalation.

Again, Uther fucked everything, he is directly responsible for the fall of Lordearon and he is still treated as some sage hero in WoW. Fuck that guy, fuck everything he did and fuck everything he stands for.
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>>290465868
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>>290468145
>Titan research are
>protected by pillars of life that ward off the undead
>Scourge sends its living members in to detroy the pillars
>undead flood in from the avalanche
There's nothing stupid about Sholazar Basin.
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>>290448084
Where are all the RISKs?
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>>290468115
yeah pretty sure there's some BS copout with those pillars around the zone and that titan library you raid in that one quest or whatever
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>>290468091
Terenas was a prideful faggot in denial of how bad things really were. Besides, if Arthas hadn't become a Death Knight he never would have told Illidan about the skull and he wouldn't have saved the forest and the demons would have won.
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>>290468429
Except, you know, the fact that they could have done that years ago, and instead decided to do it after simultaneously attacking the Alliance and Horde and now fighting a war on their own lands.

Also why the fuck would the Titans have made undead-warding technology? Seems a bit specific to ward against a threat that didn't even exist when it was made.
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>>290468738

Undeads are undirectly demons
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>>290450638
WoD was a cluster fuck, i don't know what happened.
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>>290465313
it wasnt orgrimmar arena iirc. It was Dire Maul arena
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>>290468897
>Explain stupid bullshit
>With more stupid bullshit

Genius!
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>>290468738
Except the Lich King had only just awoken since merging with Arthas. The Cult of the Damned were busy doing other shit down south.
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>>290451010
>Blizzard are worse than jews
That doesn't make sense.
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>>290469097
He seemed pretty awake in vanilla Naxx.
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>>290468091
I love how fleshed out Warcraft lore is. It almost feels like a real thing sometimes.
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>>290469223
Also plaguelands in general

I mean fuck that stupid notion, he recombines all his essence after it having been severed, and he goes into a coma for several years? Are you fucking kidding me here?
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>>290468419

Arthas formally disbanded his knights from service and took those knights who were not loyal to him under his personal command. Of course Arthas would look like a problem at that point; and instead of confronting King Terenas about the Scourge, he confronted Terenas about Arthas becoming out of trouble - which was affirmed by his own actions with the expedition to Northrend.

>>290468580

Terenas was also mindful of the political situation. He was not so powerful that he could just make the kingdoms obey an evacuation order on the whim of a prophet. Thats why the Scourge was a necessity in silencing political opposition and mobilizing under a unified command. And then Arthas quashed a small outbreak and got himself corrupted, just as Ner'zhul planned.
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>>290440315
test
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>>290469020

What's stupid about that?
Ner'zhul obtains the power to raise undead thanks to Kil'jaeden's demonic energy.
The pillars in Sholazar were most likely made to protect it from demons since they were the Titans' primary enemies.
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>>290469223
The Lich King was sleeping from TFT through TBC. The zombie event in game is when he wakes up and begins building his army. 90% of the Scourge was on Kalimdor/EK until then.
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>>290469258
Man, you're just reminding me. Warcraft 3 came with a GOAT manual. That thing was thick as fuck and full of lore tidbits on fucking everything. Actually kinda sad that I lost my physical copy.

http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/misc/Warcraft%20III%20Manual.pdf
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>>290469486
By that standard Orcs shouldn't have been allowed in either because of the faint demon semen in them.
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Why do people still care about Blizzard games when they are pleb shit for casuals.
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>>290469486

Undead aren't demonic because paladin anti-demonic spells don't work on them. Same reason why Undead are classified as humanoids instead of actual undead.
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>>290469717
Ah shit, I still have that and the vanilla WoW manual laying around, loving flipping through them. I got WoW for Christmas 2005 and it wouldn't install properly on our slow ass PC, so we couldn't get it installed until two days later, and I spent the whole time just reading through the manual. So much lore and tidbits about the littlest parts of the game.
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>>290465834
>>290466059
Thrall did it because the younger orc's, which was the majority of the horde, favored Garrosh the most.

and he thought by giving Garrosh more responsability it would temper him.

however, Garrosh rightly calls this as a horrible choice, as Garrosh is just a man of war, not fit to rule, and Thrall failed him.

Thrall however, cannot come to terms with his own failure and passes this soley to Garrosh.
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>>290469594
In vanilla Naxx you walk in on him and KT having a conversation, later he gets pissed and opens some Northrend portals to send reinforcements.
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>Blizzard will never make another good game

I completely lost faith in them after the Diablo3 fiasco. What a waste of a company.
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>>290469486
The energy that Undead run off of, that Necromancers and Death Knights manipulate isn't Fel energy, meaning it's not demonic.
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>>290469989
I feel the same way about Valve. They went from making revolutionizing FPS games to stupid F2P hat shit.
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>>290469981
Still sleeping though, most likely has connection with his top men. The Wrath intro cinematic is him waking up and getting ready for war. If he was awake all this time then why did he wait years to do anything?
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>>290469875
>Undead aren't demonic because paladin anti-demonic spells don't work on them

Exorcism and the AoE stun used to work on both undead and demons.

>Same reason why Undead are classified as humanoids instead of actual undead.
Forsakens used to be classified as undead and paladin spells actually worked on them. Blizzard took it out for balance purposes.
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>>290469429
Arthas disbanded a bunch of insubordinate twats who let their privilege get in the way of their duty, they were told what had to be done and they outright refused to do it despite overwhelming evidence that things had gone long past the point of no return. They abandoned their prince to fight a horde of demons and undead with a handful of armed forces while they went and slandered him to his own father.

Again, if Uther had done his fucking duty, helped Arthas purge the undead from Stratholme and then inform king Terenas of how dire the situation had become (which others would also be able to clearly see at that point, political opposition would be gone by then)

Instead, he made it into a personal pissing contest between him and Arthas, he destroyed the kingdom because he was too proud to bow and too proud to admit how hardly he was wrong, even to himself.

In the end, there was one man who could have stopped the whole damn thing, one man who had one duty, and all he had to do was do it. But that was too much for him, he chickened out and sabotaged his own pupil to cover up the fact that he had disobeyed the command of a superior on the field of battle and damned thousands to a fate worse than death.
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>>290469956
>It's YOUR FAULT that I'm bad at my job!
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>>290448084
wheres the footman frenzy you little faggot
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>>290469875
Are you retarded?
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>>290469956

Thrall thought it would mature Garrosh because the burden of responsibility matured him, since he was a young hothead before Orgrim tried to kick his ass. The real problem with Garrosh is that he came to see only the bad in people, whereas Thrall was forever influenced by his experiences with his one true human waifu to give everyone a chance.
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>>290470023

Necromancy is a by-product of Fel magic since it was created from it.
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garrosh was a great warchief and legitimately good modern blizzard character that got written into a hamfisted villain that goes completely against his character
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>>290470132
>has conversations with his dudes
>opens portals to send troops halfway across the planet
How was that sleeping?
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>>290470363
Necromancy is arcane. It's why it's always Mages that end up becoming one.
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>>290442169

Pretty sure that's a net.
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>>290470023
Death Knights, and the Scourge as a whole, exist because of Kil'jaeden.
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>>290469717
>those manuals for Starcraft and WC3
>reading through them as they installed

Same with WoW too. Reading through those class descriptions was great.
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>>290470214
>Arthas disbanded a bunch of insubordinate twats who let their privilege get in the way of their duty

Arthas formally had no privileges, and basically threatened a highly esteemed and elite order of knights with political persecution once he ascended to the throne. Arthas was being a prick about it and the knights who joined him did so under pressure. Even Jaina understood this and left him over it.

Even if the plague ended then and there, both Uther and Jaina saw that Arthas would have made a terrible totalitarian who wouldn't know where to draw the line. But at the time, they did not view this as their problem to deal with.
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>>290470398
Yeah, there were pretty clearly like six different writers working on Garrosh, since in one quest he'll kill a commander for being dishonorable, but then do the same sort of shit in another one.
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>>290470363
Necromancy existed long before the Lich King you dumb faggot. Dalaran mages were doing that shit since before the opening of the Dark Portal
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Is Blizzard the Ozzy Ozzborne of game publishers?
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>>290470473
Yeah, that's true, but they don't use any sort of demonic magic or Fel energy. Undead are different from demons.
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>>290470459
Nigga, in the battle of Hyjal in WC3, there were nothing but undeads under the control of Archimonde. Even in the WoW version there still was Frost Wyrms and Abominations.
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>>290470521
Uther was a high and mighty bitch who would rather watch his kingdom burn than do something against his moral code to save it. Arthas did nothing wrong until he went to Northrend.
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>>290470690
They're literally a byproduct of Fel magic, making them Fel by nature.
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>>290470521
>Arthas formally had no privileges

He's a fucking prince of Lordaeron, he has plenty of privileges. He wasn't doing this out of some selfish totalitarian delusion, he was performing his duty as a paladin and committing evil for the sake of his country, to save it. Had Arthas not purged Stratholme, Lordaeron would be swimming in undead, and those creatures have a habit of multiplying in geometric progression. They had two choices. Run away, doing nothing, allowing an entire army of undead under the command of a nathrezim dreadlord (and those guys have caused greater ancient kingdoms to fall pretty much singlehandedly by manipulation) to run unchecked or take the fight to him. Arthas might not have done a good thing there, but he did the right thing. And esteemed order or not, but it is their duty to obey when commanded by a son of a fucking ruling monarch. He wasn't telling him to start jumping rope in front of him, he was telling him to fight the enemy of humanity and give those about to turn a clean, merciful death instead of letting them turn into abominations. But Uther thought himself too "righteous" for such an act and wanted to keep his hands clean.
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>>290470683
Well both are perpetually in the 80's so yes
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>>290470430
The same way Ner'zhul assisted Arthas before merging. While he was busying taking a nap, probably surrounded by a personal guard, which may or may not be who he sends during Naxx, while Ke'thuzad continued his work in the Eastern Kingdoms until the LK was ready.
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>>290470804

Uther had no idea of the gravity of the situation, and Arthas knew this. Instead Arthas violated his own moral code instead of acquiescing to Uther's battlefield seniority. If he let Uther see and experience the threat for himself, then they would have been able to convince the king together that the Alliance must be mobilized and that Medivh was right.
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>>290471035
And they are both enormous sell-outs.
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>>290443321
GRIFFITH!!!!
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>>290470758
Archimonde was one of the three leaders of the Eredar, a race that was supremely talented in the ways of magic. Do you think he forgot all that shit just because he became a demon? Fuck no.
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>>290471023
>He's a fucking prince of Lordaeron, he has plenty of privileges

Being a prince does not mean formally having command over people. He commanded by respect of his father the king, through personal bravado, or at the promise of future favors. But as a prince, he was just a prince and a paladin in training. He secured Bronzebeard support through his prestige, and his expeditionary forces through money or force of will. But he held no formal powers which overrode the many monarchs and commanders of the realm.
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>>290471053
Uther never would have seen the big picture. His precious code is nice and all in times of peace when at most you have to fuck some orcs up but when shit gets real he freezes up and doesn't understand what's going on. He genuinely didn't understand the concept of purging the city because he was so attached to his code. He's the poster child of lawful stupid.
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>>290470805
Except they literally aren't. Necromancy is a school of Arcane magic, which is completely separate from Fel magic.
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>>290471379

Uther never saw a picture to begin with. And you're very quick to dismiss a veteran of the Second War when necromancy was a very popular tactic employed by the orcs. If he saw necromancy as a virulent plague just like Arthas did, then he would have acted appropriately.
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>>290470521
Regardless of whether or not Arthas was to be a good leader, they should have been able to see the necessity of his actions, and that blatantly antagonizing and abandoning him would only make things worse, they did the absolute dumbest thing that is simply inexcusable, not only did they abandon him to a horde of undead and demons, they abandoned everyone else who would be infected and taken as the plague would spread unchecked in stratholme was left uncontained.

Arthas insisted those men, those soldiers, did their fucking duty and defend the people of Lordearon, and he was forced to drastic measures because they were blatantly insubordinate before he made any kind of threat.

Imagine, your people are being murdered by the thousands, worse, stitched together into horrid abominations and raised as undead to then turn on others, this plague has been spreading unchecked and the head honcho responsible is currently running rampant in a city full of people infected by the plague. Your only option would be to deal with the threat before it overwhelms you, before it gets out of control, but the people whom you rely on, your mentor of all things, turn on you, act as if you've gone mad and are about to let everything go to hell, after all you've fucking been through Uther still can't muster a shred of fucking respect and recognition and would rather let Lordearon burn to the ground that trust your judgement.

Yea fuck that. Uther is the one ultimately responsible, he was the one with a choice, and he choose to damn everyone for his own pride.
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>>290471430
The Lich King was created by Kil'jaeden, the Scourge were a tool created and used by the Legion until Ner'zhul broke free from them.
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>>290469989

>Diablo 3 bad
>SC2 bad
>hearthstone is ok, but mostly bells and whistles and started putting good cards behind paywall
>HotS is equivalent of a WC3 custom map

I guess I didn't want WC4 anyway...
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>>290471430

But Arcane is the term for all kinds of magic, anon. It'is opposed to Divine which are Paladin and Priest spells.
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>>290471502
This wasn't raising people who were already dead, this was a disease that turned living people undead. He had no solution that was allowed by his code so he did nothing.
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>>290471509

>they should have been able to see the necessity of his actions

Jaina clearly did not agree with the necessity of his actions, despite witnessing the entire plague firsthand along with Arthas. And she is far more educated in magical and otherworldly phenomenon than he is.

>Arthas insisted those men, those soldiers, did their fucking duty and defend the people of Lordearon, and he was forced to drastic measures because they were blatantly insubordinate before he made any kind of threat.


He was the only one there who decided that he was forced to take drastic action. The CoT instance proves that very few people actually agreed with him and went with him into the Stratholme massacre.
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>>290452457
Keep telling yourself that, scrub
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>>290444782
>an act of seasoning
Everytime.
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>>290471773

>He had no solution that was allowed by his code so he did nothing.

He wasn't even given a proper explanation as to the nature and manner of the necromancy involved. Arthas never gave him a chance to investigate, only a demand to turn his knights over to commit an atrocity on morally questionable grounds.
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>>290471749
Then I guess all mages are demonic, Anon.
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>>290471784
Arthas was the only one with a viable solution. Uther and Jaina had fuck all but they were quick to demonize Arthas because of how fucked up his was. A whole city being purged was shitty but it was better than sitting on their asses and handing a massive army to the enemy.
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>>290471502
The problem remains that his pride blinded him to the obvious, he knew Arthas had been going around investigating the plague, he fought the fucking horde of undead that was about to overwhelm Arthas when he arrived and he should have known what those undead used to be, and how big of a threat they had so quickly become.

He had no excuse to ignore Arthas's judgement, especially considering he didn't have a fucking clue what was going on and the person that did was telling him what was going on.

Worse though, is that Jaina didn't fucking back him up and bitched out, all Jaina had to do was stand by Arthas and maybe even that fucking cunt Uther would have been convinced.

But again, I stress that Uther had no reason not to be aware of the magnitude of this threat, he saw the horde that had overrun Arthas's base in andorhal firsthand, saw what had happened to andorhal and the people that survived could have told him too. He was just an obstinate prick.
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>>290472063
>Want to play on a private server
>The very fact of playing on a private server means everyone is either a Europoor or nostalgic autist turbonerd
>Can't make friends
>No reason to play

It hurts
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>>290472085

>Arthas was the only one with a viable solution.

Viable short term solution. The long term solution was to let Uther conduct his investigation, and then report back to the king with his and Uther's account of the infestation. And then the king would have recalled Medivh's warning and take proper action to save the people of Lordaeron.
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>>290472085
>tfw a whole bunch of shit could have been avoided if Arthas had just said "You have five minutes to give me a better alternative"
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>>290471701
>SC2 bad cause le campaign sux xDDDD

Go play ladder you fucking noob

Oh wait I bet you cant even beat the easiest computer
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>>290471929
Then maybe Uther should have been out investigating instead of having Arthas do all the work. If he was as uninformed as you say then he had no business trying to take control of that situation. They didn't have time to fuck around and Arthas had to make a tough call based on everything he knew.
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>>290468383
The musicguys of blizzard did and still do an oustanding job, i never understood the people that turned it off. Also listening to the old OST gives me great nostalgia and alot of memories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5s0MQvF9s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dedMP7eda2E
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>>290442169
I STILL don't fucking know what this icon is
What's with the giant gold ring
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>>290472168

>lead army into infested areas to save people
>finally reach Arthas
>ordered by Arthas to kill the people they originally fought to save

That wasn't pride. Uther needed to see what terrified Arthas so much that the prince would order an atrocity first hand, and Arthas wouldn't let him because he was terrified.
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>>290471784
Remind me, what excuse does Jaina have for not agreeing with Arthas? We already know that it is clearly established that purging Stratholme was the right call at the time, and Arthas and Jaina both had all the information they needed to know this too. So why did Jaina fuck him over?

Well the main issue is that Jaina was a naive little twit with no real world experienced, being a sheltered mage with no grasp of the bigger picture, and her doubting Arthas with no clear grounds other than "this seems like an awful thing to do" is just retarded.
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>>290472245
They had like less than an hour before the entire city turned, by the time they got back to Terenas there would be a massive army ready to steamroll the kingdom. Arthas or not the demons were going to invade.
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Are you still enjoying WoW?

is nostralius a pvp server?
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>>290472063

What the hell are you talking about? Fel magic is a school of magic or arcane if you prefer. Necromancy is just one of the many wonders you can do by using Fel magic.

The first record of Necromancy was from Nathrezims (Demons, mind you) raising undead night elves.
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>>290472298

At no point was he taking control of the situation. The first thing Arthas does when Uther finally finds him is to order Uther to purge the city; and Uther basically reminds him that he doesn't have the authority to order a purge in the first place. And then Arthas gets angry and declares the Silver Hand disbanded, and tells anyone who wasn't loyal to him to get out of his sight. Its like you never played through the CoT instance.
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>>290472434
Play the campaign again buddy, Uther is a bitch to Arthas from the very first mission, he is all too keen to remind Arthas who is who's superior as a Paladin and that he considers him a little upstart.

Again, he saw the hordes of undead first hand, he knew Arthas had investigated the source (and he did tell Uther about the plagued grain and it's effects, which Uther had seen with the whole horde of undead)

He also had to have known how quickly these undead had spread before, as Stratholme wasn't the first town hit, again, Uther has no excuse, he had all the information Arthas had save a few details, he bitched out.
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>>290472732
Yeah it is
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>>290472732
Yes. 3800+ players
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>>290472732
I finished heroic HM and got all the current arena gear

I'm too lazy to learn BRF so I havent played in like 2 months
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>>290447139
I also did this strategy, it was most effective at my low level because people were poor at micro. I really hated the WC3 ladder, SC2 is better.
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>>290472732
>Are you still enjoying WoW?
Nope

I think i'm finally free of it. I feel both joy and loss at that.
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>>290472758
And I'm saying that Necromancy isn't fel magic at all.
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>>290470804
and that's fine, if Uther was the prince, then NONE of the shit in WC3 beyond that would have ever happened, having a Moral Backbone would have saved Lorderon in the long run.

NOT having one got us Arthas the Lich King, who went on to kill untold millions.
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>>290448084
>tfw getting a full game with balanced teams in Island Troll Tribes
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>>290472845
This. The plagued grain from Strahnbard (one of the first cities to be hit with the plague) was what caused the people of Stratholme to turn and it was being distributed across the fucking Lordaeron. When Arthas saw the grain bags he already knew that the game is played and that it's only a matter of time before those people turn. They had no time and they had no choice.
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>>290446350
I never realized how well made the maps were

But I like the Starcraft 2 maps more
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>>290472786
>CoT instance
>WoW retcons

Cool story bro. He actually goes the distance to remind Uther of his duty and to press the urgency of the matter at hand, Uther just waves him off with "muh principles" He quite literally tells him he would not obey this order even if it came from the king himself (though he does specifically phrase it "even if YOU were my king") Uther had been having his own private pissing contest with Arthas since the first mission and this was just Uther not willing to submit authority to Arthas under any circumstance.
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>>290448614
i can't fucking stand new org

i miss the bank roof
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>>290472451
>We already know that it is clearly established that purging Stratholme was the right call at the time

Wait just a minute. The plague was only "stopped" because Mal'ganis wanted to lure Arthas to Northrend to begin with. They let him do all those heroic deeds because Ner'zhul wanted a champion to protect his frozen throne. At no point was the situation under Arthas' control, and the best response Arthas could have given was to not play at all at Stratholme.

This is why the infinitely better outcome for Lordaeron was to let Uther experience the plague firsthand and then report back to the capital for emergency action. Instead, Arthas played right into Mal'ganis hands and let all of Lordaeron fall into a false sense of security. And all Arthas had to do was a very simple thing - obey the code of the paladin.
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>>290473051

Nigga, even Gul'dan, the most felnigger of the universe used Necromancy during the first war.
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>>290451205
I never figured this one out and never tried to.
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>>290473185

Uther had a duty to the king, not to the prince. This is reiterated in both versions. Arthas knew this, and tried to take Uther's knights away from him to sidestep his father the king's authority.
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>>290473071
The Lich King was a major player in the Legion's invasion failing. They go over this shit in the Caverns of Time. A timeline where millions die is better than one where everyone dies.
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>tits gets replies

Is there any PVE leveling priv server?

____ The game
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>>290472732
I'm taking a sub break while i wait for 6.2. I tried Nostalrius in the mean time and it;s buggy as fuck and i just can't stand it.
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>>290473237
if arthas didn't go to northrend then ner'zhul's master plan wouldn't have worked and the legion would have trashed everything.
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>>290473497
What kind of bugs?

The only ones I noticed so far was the jumping in water and lots of veins being in the wrong place.
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>>290473237
And yet, the only reason Arthas spiraled out of control to the point where the Lich King could affect him was because Uther basically betrayed and sabotaged him at every turn. It's not that the cult of the damned intended to stop at Stratholme, it's that Arthas STOPPED THEM.

IF he didn't stop them there, they could have just about taken any other champion after overrunning all of Lordearon. Arthas being turned was a nice consequence out of a shitty situation, the reason they wanted Arthas is because he WAS the only one that COULD stop them because he had the balls to do what had to be done. The cult of the damned would've ran rampant across Lordearon if Arthas was never there and it was left to Uther "lets wait and see" Lightbringer. Arthas was the biggest threat to the scourge, and they dealt with him accordingly.

And it's all thanks to Uther fuck mothering Lightbringer
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>>290473154

And ultimately Arthas got corrupted just as planned, killed the king just as planned, and destroyed the entire kingdom wholesale just as planned. If Arthas only respected the path of the paladin more than his own judgment, then it would be the people of Lordaeron who would be inhabiting Kalimdor alongside the Night Elves and not the orcs. This is exactly the last thing the Burning Legion would have wanted, which is exactly the the reason why Medivh first went to Lordaeron for aid.
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>>290473436
>WoW Bullshit

Remind me how they would have summoned the burning legion of not for the Undead summoning them?
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>>290473436
that isn't really a convincing argument to cover the moral failings that led to millions of deaths.

with that sort of logic, I am free to do any number of atrocities, so long as something, completely unrelated to my direct actions, but happens to be good, comes from it.
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>>290473626
My characters attack animation is wonky, NPC's and quest givers are broken and the games server is just laggy as hell making everything feel jittery.
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>>290473676
Arthas has free will, he made his choices.

much less important men, with much less in the way of heritage, did much greater things in Artha's kind of situations.
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>>290473750
>Implying Terenas an Uther wouldn't have just refused to abandon Lordearon before it was way too late.

Nice grasping buddy, stop making shit up just because it's convenient for your narrative. In terms of events and the choices involved, Uther made irredeemable fuck-ups.
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>>290473890
Oh yeah I noticed the interaction and quest text was off in some places, haven't had any of the other issues. I think the server is in Europe so if you're American I'd assume that's the problem.
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>>290473624

The Legion didn't even brush Ironforge after the conquest of Lordaeron. A united Lordaeron would have bought precious time to put Medivh's plan into action.

>>290473676
>And yet, the only reason Arthas spiraled out of control to the point where the Lich King could affect him was because Uther basically betrayed and sabotaged him at every turn.

implications

He was driven by his obsession to hunt down Mal'ganis after committing an atrocity for which he felt he could not answer to his father or the people of Lordaeron for. He even says it in his own words and deeds that he would follow Mal'ganis and that he would not return home.
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>>290473986
and none of them compare to Arthas's
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>>290473830
But the legion fell as a direct consequence of actions of the Scourge.

>Arthas informs Illidan of the skull
>Illidan kills everything in his way between him and it, absorbs it and then kills Tichondrious, the smartest nathrezim tactician of the legion who always erred on the side of caution
>Final battle commences and there's no one to warn Archimonde of the possibility of ambush at the world tree now
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>>290473986

It was Terenas who silenced the chamber, let Medivh finish his warning, and then gave him a proper rebuttal as to why he could not simply order the evacuation of all of Lordaeron. Terenas was not a hero king, but he was no fool either.
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>>290473826
There's a million power hungry mages other than KT.
>>290473830
There was a long ass plan in place to make sure the Legion failed, fucking around with it in any way means the Legion wins and burns the planet.
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>>290473963
Arthas did make his choices, and they were the right choices to make, right up until the point where the Lich King got into his head and effectively brainwashed him through the effects of Frostmourne.

And that even only occurred because Uther not only abandoned him to his fate, but actively sabotaged everything he had worked for.

Of all the players involved in the corruption of Arthas, Uther played the biggest part.
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>>290453024
You can farm it really easily now. They increased the hourly instance cap to 10 and you can solo strat on any character from 70 up without even paying attention. Took me 89 runs to get mine, only a couple of days. Even got a bunch of his runeblades during that time.
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>>290474118
this doesn't matter.

I don't need to explain that the Legion could have been defeated in other ways.

because they could have

even if not, this doesn't really relieve Arthas of his moral failings.
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Full version where OP
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>>290474057
Which are? Trusting Uther? Sure, checkmate, trusting that raging faggot was the biggest mistake you could make.
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Holy shit, I didn't know what Nostalrius was and I just checked. It looks based as fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agkf-yvmUOQ

Shitposting aside, is it good?
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>>290474208
>Arthas did make his choices, and they were the right choices to make

They were ultimately the wrong choices, however; as every choice he made played directly into the hands of his enemies. And even towards the end, he believed in his arrogance that he could simply overcome their evil schemes.
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>>290474208
giving his soul to Frostmourne was a willing choice.

and all of his choices were the wrong ones, because they were the exact choices that doomed his nation, as per the plan.

if he stuck to the Paladin Code, as they planned he would not, his soul would be free, and Lorderon might not have fallen.

the Lich King saw great weakness in Arthas, and made a huge fucking plan around him failing his moral code.
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>>290465546

>he doesn't have epic dogestone
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>>290442169
Not war3 but...
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>>290474364
oh yea, because doing exactly what the Lich King planned for him to do turned out so well for him, Lorderon, and Silvermoon.
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>>290474502
If he stuck to the paladin code, there'd be no nation to defend.
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>>290474407
It's the private server with the least bugs I've played so far at least, but it still has some wonks like at one point I couldn't accept the follow up to a quest I did, but other than that it's good.

Really nice to have a private server that actually has a big amount of players too, it's actually far bigger than any retail server I think.
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>>290474592
there is no nation anyways, it went worse.
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>>290474410
That doesn't make his choices wrong, he did the right thing but ultimately it wasn't enough, as the people around him abandoned him.

If you get a test that asks you what 2+2 is, and you answer 4, then you gave the correct answer, if some fucker then comes up and shreds your piece of paper that doesn't mean you didn't act appropriately.

Arthas was not a god, he was not omnipotent, he did the best he could have with the options he had, no thanks to Uther.
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>>290462905
just be glad you didn't hear what they did to scholomance.
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>>290474581
That one looks like a fucking goblin, haha. Brilliant.
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>>290474591
The Lich King's plan is the only reason they managed to beat the Legion. He knew how all that shit was going to play out.
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>>290474592

Instead, there would have been a new nation on Kalimdor as a bastion of humanity, instead of a den of orcs.
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>>290469717

this x1000
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When is Blizzard going to start making good games again?
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>>290474625

Thanks anon, I'm gonna give it a try.

I'm so nostalgic, I hope it'll give me a warm and cozy feel.
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>>290472346
Use these tracks for D&D all the time.

Vanilla WoW OST was actually comfy as fuck
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>>290474713
>he did the right thing but ultimately it wasn't enough
>literally unwittingly arrogantly presumptuously tragically ironically followed the 10 step plan to destroying your own kingdom
>literally given multiple outs of the 10 step program
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>>290474591
The fact that his choices had poor results does not mean they were the wrong choices you dumb fuck, Arthas was neither omniscient nor omnipotent and blaming him for a lack of either is just dumb as hell.

>B-but his choices played right into the hands of his enemies!
I'm sure he was fully aware he was being played the entire time anon, great call! He CHOSE to be played! Let's also ignore the obvious fact that Uthers choices were the ones that ultimately caused the success of the Lich Kings plans, not Arthas'
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>>290474961
it hurts
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>>290466249
Zangarmarsh was great for that, but Nagrand was even better.

Every fucking quest just took you through a giant circle around the zone, so you would do a lap to pick them all up, then another one to clear them out, then one final one to turn them all in.

took me about 8 hours to go from level 64 to 68 back then, and these days it barely takes me 1
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>>290475058

It's 3 little purple bugs, you only see head+claw part on the one on the left and a leg on the top.
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>>290475023
Just a reminder that if Uther had followed Arthas' orders, followed him to Northrend and dealt with Malgannis like HE FUCKING SHOULD HAVE, the scourge would have ended then and there.

Remind me who fucked up again anon, the guy who did all he could with what he had, or the guy who did nothing with what he had and instead sabotaged the guy who was doing all he could.
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>>290475040
>The fact that his choices had poor results does not mean they were the wrong choices you dumb fuck

Lets go over this

>be paladin
>take up paladin code to protect people
>violate paladin code
>kill people you swore to protect

Theres your wrong choices
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>>290474982
It's worth it Imo, it's honestly better than anything WoW made past tbc and feels very alive, also check out on /vg/ for /wowpsg/
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>>290463465
During the last mission of the Undead campaign in Frozen Throne:

>King Arthas: Are you still upset that I stole Jaina from you, Kael?
>Prince Kael: You've taken everything I ever cared for, Arthas. Vengeance is all I have left.
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>>290450085
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>>290475346
>be prince
>take up prince code to protect people
>follow prince code
>kill zombies threatening the people you swore to protect
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>>290475270

>just a reminder that if Uther was another character who was a blind loyal unquestioning lapdog of Prince Arthas such as myself
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At least volvo gonna release source 2 for dota 2 and map creator out of alpha. I we even gonna get matchmaking for the most popular custom games, plus if you pay for some ticket you'll get hat drops(just like in tf2 mvm, gamemode is free but you need to pay if you wanna get hats)
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>>290475480

His class wasn't Prince, his class was Paladin
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>>290475346
>Be paladin
>Take up paladin code to protect people
>People get infected with plague, will inescapably die and rise again as horrid undead which will then kill thousands of others.
>We should protect/ignore the undead! Fuck the thousands of innocents that would die as a result of us doing nothing.
>Give the people who are doomed a quick, clean death rather than living on as abominations in the service of those who seek to destroy all they hold dear
>Protect the people you were swore to protect, regardless of how horrible a price you have to pay for it

Sounds like a true paladin, unlike Uther.

You're a real fucking idiot of you truly believe there is some merit to the bullshit you brought up anon.
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>>290475386
It's /wpsg/. There are a couple of guilds with /vg/ players.
<Salty Dogs> which is a 4chan only Horde guild
<Entitled> which is a 4chan/Reddit merged Alliance guild.
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it doesn't matter, once Arthas was free of the Lich King's influence, he found he LIKED what he became and took the Lich King mantle for himself.

so in the end, Ner'zhul chose correct, maybe too correctly, that Arthas was an evil man, who simply thought he was good.
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>>290475961
>WoW bullshit retcons

Not even once anon, get the fuck out.
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>>290475795

If he obeyed the paladin's moral code that he swore to uphold, then Uther would have witnessed the infestation first hand and both Arthas and Uther would have been able to convince King Terenas about the reality of the threat. Then King Terenas would have acted on Medivh's warning and sent the people of Lordaeron to Kalimdor, where Lordaeron's people would both survive and make a proper stand against the Burning Legion alongside the Night Elves. This was exactly the last thing the Burning Legion would have wanted, which is why it was necessitated that the boy prince must be corrupted in the first place.
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>>290476108
>all written by the same man continously, over the entirety of the series.

not to mention it doesn't really "retcon" anything, as it is simply a new development.
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>>290476108

Arthas liked being powerful so he embraced his power as the Lich King. That isn't hard to grasp. Even when he shattered the Frozen Throne with his own sword, he chose to wear the crown by his own will.
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>>290476108
Arthas had many points where he had complete free will, giving his soul to Frostmourne was of his own violition.

and so was putting that crown on his head, and so, too, once Ner'zhul was defeated in his mind, taking up the mantle of Lich King.

which is probably why he failed, Ner'zhul didn't make the mistakes Arthas did as the LIch King.
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>>290476126
This bullshit has already been discounted you dumb fuck, repeating yourself wont change that.

Use fucking arguments that are relevant to what you are arguing against, you are putting conclusion before procedure and are making shit up to fit your conclusion rather than looking at the actual process that leads to it.

You have absolutely no basis for your fanfic theory, just fuck off.

Or hey, have one of mine: If he obeyed the paladin's moral code Jaina would have teleported all the undead into the ocean where they would wage a thousand year war against the denizens of Azshara before ultimately destroying all life on Azeroth.

See? We can both make shit up with no basis. neat huh?!
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>>290454446

This honestly looks too good to be true.
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>>290476445
>Of his own volition
>He was on the brink of defeat with undead surrounding him on all sides because Uther had betrayed him, and he was the last vestige between the undead and the people he swore to protect.
>His exact words: "I will bear any curse, pay any price, if it means saving my people"

Yea he was totally a self-absorbed prick who did it all for himself out of some powertrip, huh?
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>>290476469
>being this upset

My arguments are all backed by events and background lore. Your argument is based on Arthas worship while everyone else was plain dumb.
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>>290476713

>its okay for Arthas to betray thousands of men under his command because he felt slighted by one guy

so edgy
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>>290476770
Your bullshit fanfic theory is disproven by how intricate the plan to stop the Legion was. Also magic time dragons said it couldn't happen any other way.
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>>290450085
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>>290476770
>Backed by events and lore
>A wild prediction full of would and could haves that blatantly contradicts how characters have been established to act throughout the series

Sure bro, whatever you say, sure, Terenas would have seen reason and given the order to evacuate his people... Except by that point there'd be no one left to evacuate. The undead populace of Stratholme would have outnumbered and overrun all of Lordearon in no time at all, and Malgannis running around unchecked could do whatever he wanted, but sure anon, they would have "evacuated"

Just... Believe what you will, there's no reasoning with someone this delusional.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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