Warcraft 3 thread?
I always thought this was a airport's blue sock pole, which attack icons confused you /v/ ?
It was always a fishing net to me.
I never actually looked hard enough to see what actually was, and while I didn't play the original warcrafts
I regret this, I was playing shit like it at that time I just never picked them up, I mained a warrior in WoW since vanilla so you think I would've figured it out.
wow thread anyone?
I thought it was an upside down arm blade thing that the crypt lords have, then I realized the icon was supposed to be the unicorn horn type blade the crypt lords have on their skulls. And the actual implementation of the spell in the game is confusing too. The spell is not even the arm blades or the horn blade, the spell is magical spikes that come out the ground.
Its a helmet, i thought it was a pruple glowing knee
Shut up Arthas, There's big booby bombs.
Seriously, this is a broken silver cart wheel
I googled ''Warcraft 3 load screen maps'' And variations of it. I took a peek and it's nothing much.
Red blade slashing through flesh covered in armour.
Das a hammer in motion
Das a sword in motion
Blue anthropomorphic figure running holding light blue whip/device thing.
Niggah das a bear paw
I always thought this was a sewer pipe, took me a while to realise its actually a head
I was going to post that I could never discern what this fucking was supposed to be. But then I finally got it after I upscaled it a bunch, now I feel like a retard.
I started playing the campaign a couple weeks back since I never finished or even played it as a teen.
Why is this game so fucking GOAT ? The Lore, the Story, the twists, the characters, why is everything so fucking great ? I'm at the mission where I have to defend the life tree from Archimonde now but I've had enough for today and I'm guessing it's the final so I'm looking forward doing it tomorrow during prime time in the evening.
Here, But more for trying to figure out how to make a city builder out of it. Try and manage a Horde outpost or some shit while you have no direct control over troops.
Warcraft Tropico or something.
I can't wait until the view distance actually gets that big and you can see across the entire continents. I remember when I had a bad computer and everything was just a fucking fog after like 80 yards. I finally got an actual gaming PC around the launch of cata and actually being able to see things in the distance blew my fucking mind.
Not nearly as much as returning to morrowind without the view distance fog though. Now that was fucking cray.
>suspenderoni your pepperoni
Every damn time.
Now it's a Warden/nightsaber rider going ''Sssh''
>HUfag towerushing me on TR
Fuck you and your mom if you ever did that
My favorite thing to do in that game was ghouls.
>sleep and lifesteal
>build 3 barracks
>Just auto pump ghouls at the enemy base.
>drown them in the tide
it's a skellington in some mud or something. got dispeled, I guess?
Honestly i never really played it. I was to busy playing parasite and dota. Do you really think i was bragging about how great i was for spamming the first tier unit?
Yeah but he worked pretty damn well when the only thing youre making is ghouls.
Gentlemen, how do we fix Quel'Thalas?
-purify the ghostlands (using the same hax they did in the Plaguelands)
-raze Deatholme to the fucking ground and below. Blow up the stones, and burn the ground till it's necessary.
-if the soil in the dead scar is really unsalvageable, then collect the tainted soil maybe to a containment area or just trash it into the twisting nether. Either replace it with plain ground or flood it with water. Stron patrols or automated undead-dispensing devices (goblins will build those) will be required.
-troll areas: kill the wild trolls, destroy the encampments. Reclaim Zul'Aman, maybe populate it with Horde trolls
-kill all the wretched, and rebuild the second part of silvermoon.
Nah man, the first 2-3 months of cata were the best since BC.
Playing a polished MMO that actually required CC and smart play again was fucking amazing. Wrath babbies couldn't cope though and the flood of tears on the forum destroyed all hope blizzard had of uncasualizing the game. After that they just gave up, the casuals were obviously the majority, and they were the easiest to please. From a business stand point, who can blame them. But otherwise, FUCK!!!!
>tfw probably the oldest WoW account ITT
fucking 10 years where have they gone
>those character intro's in WoD
>the feeling/design of blackrock foundry, grimrail depot, etc
some one at blizzard really liked borderlands.
I've always been interested in seeing somebody try to compile an image like this for SC1 custom games. There's a couple standouts (Sunken TD, Diplomacy, DBZ RPG, etc.) but SC1 was full of weird, off the wall games usually themed after mid 90's to early 2000's culture.
''Iseedeadpeople'' - ''riseandshine''. See for your self lol.
>playing on vanilla private server as healer
>join group for DM
>warlock spamming life tap and using fear to cc
>resto druid as a tank
>hunter that pulls when no one is ready
I'm almost enjoying my anger.
Those were my thought exactly.
And the arrakoa's sun-light-beam-gun-thingy is just like the Eye of Helios (Jack planned to use it to incinerate bandit camps from above, the adherents do the same with the flightless arrakoa towns)
Oh, and remember the large ass siege weapon that the iron horde wanted to transport to Azeroth, but we used it to destroy the portal?
Just like this one.
obviously blizzard never really expected people to actually see that far in the normal game but all they need to do is add some effects and it could look decent from a distance. Edges need to be softened/blurred, and a light fog/dust that doesn't obscure vision, but gives the appearance of just an atmosphere and distance would do wonders.
'Harken cur! Just because you're here once more.
You think your chance will be any greater than before!
TRY GET MY MOUNT. YOU'LL NEVER HAVE IT ON YOUR ACCOUNT!
Oh shit. I always thought it was some kind of bird/dinosaur head.
As someone who began communicating with other people over the internet during the era of AIM around 17 years ago, I know very well that people were using "lol" "lmao" and "rofl" more than necessary
it was also the age that meant whenever I wanted to talk to a cute asian girl online, I had to endure alternating capital letters, elaborate emoticons and alt-codes, and
SC1 was only ever dominated by TDs, they were the ASSFAGGOTS of their time. You had a lot of zombie maps too but overall I'd say you're right, it just had a lot of unique maps, simpler than the ones in WC3 but they never really got recreated there
>A Day At School RPG
>Grocery Store Wars
>Resident Evil Raccoon City
>SWAT (not like the NOTD maps, you had one team as SWAT and another as terrorists with hostages in a big ass house)
>Dynasty Warriors maps (precursors to ASSFAGGOTS I guess but not really)
>tons of zombie defense maps in general
I'm forgetting a lot but my final days with SC1 customs were in 2004 or so.
I've always thought this was an evil ghost hiding behind a gravestone, is it what it is?
>that bug a few months back where you could post icons in chat, and at massive sizes that flooded out of the chat window and took up half your screen
That shit was great. Sadly this is the only image I had from it for whatever reason
>Cut capitol cities
>Cut Shattrath raid
>Fucked up Ashran
>Delayed launch raids
>Released a patch with nothing but a couple of small features, most of which were promised at launch
I haven't played since January and I'm still mad.
I thought the hand was a book and the cuff was some fancy bookmark hanging off it
I STILL don't know if this is a hand or a man being burned alive
I used to think this was a bone with some purple bits of tendon/muscle fibre.
Nigga I just want the Baron's dreadsteed. I've wanted that fucking thing ever since I first saw the Undead epic mounts in Vanilla, and to this day I have never owned that horse on any character, and I've never had a max-level Undead because that would ruin the fun IMO.
to this day, undead epic mount still the coolest mount in the game
I, uh, downloaded the official WC3 asset dump for SC2.
you guys have gotta help me.
what the fuck was the goblin shredder icon supposed to be
its a picture of the shredder looking up
see look the 2 horns you can see are the things sticking out and the two green things are the green things you see on top
They redid all the race heroes, Anub'arak's face is weird as fuck. Also most of the portraits don't have their mouths flying all over the place when they talk like in WC3, it's a bit weird.
Garithos still does
It just came out like two weeks ago and the SC2 custom games scene isn't very big and I haven't kept up with it. I know somebody finally remade WC3 but I haven't looked for anything else yet.
I feel like warcraft 3 had immensely better storry telling than WoW. Wish we could get warcraft games of WoW expansions. I'd love to siege orgimmar or fight deathwing in warcraft.
Where you're in charge of the whole raid as opposed to just 1 character. Maybe more than were used in WoW. It all sounds great, but I'm just so very afraid that, if they do make a sequel, no matter what, it'll be disappointing. I'd love to be shown otherwise though, don't get me wrong.
>in the Human campaign you do whatever you can to help save your kingdom
>experience Arthas' downfall as you slowly spiral to becoming insane
>get to continue his mayhem as an undead
>suddenly get to break down and destroy everything you tried to protect before
That shit was pretty fun.
I remember watching my brother play the campaign, and we had to go to bed (was underage) after the first human cut scene with Medivh, where Arthas just tells him off
We spent at least an hour or two talking about the implications of that scene, to be hit with Stratholme the next morning, like holy shit.
>all that brotherly love with uther during the human campaign
>killing him in the undead campaign
I cry errytime :'(
HD remake would be good and i think in warcraft 3 naga was a nearly complete race. I remember messing with the map editor and they had nearly everthing. Heroes n everything. I also demand a playable blood elf/high elf race, hell they should just add every race playable on WoW and the naga.
hell they should just add every race playable on WoW and the naga.
If they did that i wouldn't mind DLCs for each race, like a DLC for a Blood Elf campaign, and things related, no playable character/race DLCs thought, this way the competitive players would have a field day without needing to pay for shit, and the variety would be great
Yeah, Arthas's campaign is really great, my least favorite W3 campaign has to be the Night Elf one thought, it made me realise how much i hate to play as night elfs
>That map/stage when you had to invade the enemy base using only your hero and regular archers
My favorite one has to be the one where you kill Cenarius with the Chaos Orcs, that shit was insane, it was the first map that really made me need to put some effort to win
Yeah, fuck them giving a flow to the fucking story. What the hell was that shit?
I miss 6 disjointed farms that all wanted me to kill whatever was messing up their crops then going across the map to grab an item.
Yeah, i just wish the competitive game wasn't such a race for money with barely any direct attacks, team games are really good thought
>mfw sending zeppelin to the enemy base when he is trying to defend one of his secondary bases against my army of Tauren and Shamans
Play the campaign nigger, the dungeon levels are going to feed your deep, dark fantasies
>discover custom campaigns
>bunch of them are actually fun as fuck
>tfw pic related will never be finished
Elaborate, I quit at cata. They better not have fucked over "ARISE MY CHAMPION".
I've done the campaign so many times already, I just wanted some quick bot skirmishes but it's pulling me back in.
The rexxar campaign was so fucking fun, I remember playing that one and thinking it was almost like a stand alone RPG/RTS with a really good system of quests and open world where you could grow your characters and find challenges that met your increasing strength.
You don't really see that shit anymore at all, which is really sad.
I remember there was this spider campaign that was based as fuck. Did it ever get finished? You played as a spider queen of sorts and over the quest line there was some white ghost spider you had to seek out.
>Then I must consider this an act of seasoning.
Dwarf Campaign like that anon recommended. Decent amount of challenge, but expect a cliffhanger ending.
Shards of Resistance: The Raiders is also pretty good, even if the story is kind of stupid.
''Scarlet Monastery'' = GY and Cath as one.
>Decide to do cath again for funsies
>Get swarmed to death but assloads of mobs
>Too embarassed to tell anyone I died
I can't rememeber if I was 70 or 80 though but I didn't know it at the time. That's fucked up they removed it.
What about armory and library?
Just look at the most popular list on Hive Workshop. But there are some shitty ones there. I remember one that had a lot of custom content but it was a shitty alternate timeline fanfic with a mary sue and worgens crammed in.
>The crown slowly rolls down the steps as Arthas turns heel
HOLY SHIT I'M EXPERIENCING MASSIVE AMOUNT OF RADITAING NOSTALGIA.
FUCK YOU ANON WHY DID YOU POST THAT?
>blood from the crown is still present in the throne room in WoW
>you can hear the scene if you cut the music and sound and put ambient sound volume all the way up.
If you turn off music and walk through that part of Undercity with Ambience way up, you can hear the people cheering and Arthas talking
Arthas and Jaina broke up prior to WC3 when Jaina basically gave him the cold shoulder
It wasn't until much later in a WoW novel that it was established that Arthas took her virginity and his dissatisfaction fueled his ambition for more power
Because according to the Arthas novel, both of them were actually going to be married. They fucked one night, and afterwards Arthas decided he didn't want to get married.
He has more affection for his horse then he does her. I guess Arthas was a good lay though, because she kept putting up with his bullshit.
>mfw Kael'thas also wanted to bang Jaina
>mfw undead Arthas confronts Kael'thas and brags that he got Jaina which makes Kael'thas lose his concentration and get pissed
Maybe this time
Maybe this time i can log in before the dragon laFUCK
It wasn't until WotLK content that Jaina got hot and heavy for Arthas dick (again?). Her romantic status wasn't brought up again until Thrall's wedding she is literally crying alone in a corner, and then after the Theramore bombing when the only people in the world who could placate her anger were big blue dragons with big blue dragon dicks.
Watch your tone with me, boyardee. You may be the prince, but I'm still your superior as a chef!
>It wasn't until much later in a WoW novel that it was established that Arthas took her virginity and his dissatisfaction fueled his ambition for more power
why warcraft novels are so fucked up?
I remember one in wich one wich that redhead dragongirl was raped by orcs to do mass eggproduction of dragons for the horde.
Well now she's just legit nuts, she cleared the Sunreavers out of Dalaran and the ending to MoP has her trying to get Varian to jump the Horde while they're deciding who's the new Warchief.
The novel. The two of them are fighting, and to get the upperhand, Arthas says something along the lines of him being the one that Jaina chose, which causes Kael'thas to stop fighting like an elf and makes him lose focus, which causes him to lose against him.
I can't remember if it was around the Sunwell part or when they're in Northrend.
Nigger, if your earliest entry isn't 11/23/2004, you're a fucking casual.
She would have destroyed the entire Horde by now with calamity-tier magic, but instead Khadgar gave her his cushy job on the council and let her try to relieve her anger by taking it out on the Sunreavers. The plot literally had to throw bodies at her until she stopped wanting to destroy the Horde in its entirety. She has more cause to kill Thrall than Garrosh ever did.
you can see the rose petals in the long stretch arthas walked through you can see the blood splatter left from the crown you can hear the bell tolling like it did if you stand near it
>mfw she was about to unleash a masive tidal wave upon Orgrimmar after Theramore's incident
>mfw she was basically as powerful as Neptulon
>You can hear arthas's speech with his father
>Jaina can destroy Orgrimmar in a Tidal Wave
>the gnomes can make a nuke
>Velen is basically the uncorrupted brother of Archimonde and Kil'jaedan and essentially has power like theirs, but with light
>but no, we must keep the horde here anyways I guess
>why can't we beat those horde?
the warcraft eu is pretty good aside from a few things.
>orc travels back in time to the well of eternity, gets a magical axe made from Cenarius's antlers or some shit, jumps through the portal and kills hundreds of demons, then becomes the only person to ever hurt sargeras
>med'an the chosen one draenei human orc shaman mage paladin guardian of tirisfal son of medivh and garona
just when I thought maymays couldn't get any more saturated
>any of the magic the orcs had is now gone with how much blizzard is circlejerking around them
>trolls are now blue orcs
>taurens don't exist anymore
>forsaken are edgy and can backstab anyone at any given time
>blood elves still magic cocaine addicts
>goblins are jews but the lesser of evils
>humans still have a stick up their ass
>dwarves are in a similar situation the taurens are in
>gnomes can do some cool stuff, lets never make them do any of those cool things
>night elves are 10,000 years old, still somehow less experienced in war than human in their 30s
>draenei promised to have more stuff on them in WOD, this means one draenei paladin girl
>what's a worgen
>Varian captured, tortured, enslaved, and forced to fight for his life in the Orgrimmar arena
>Varian still showing mercy to named orc npcs
>Varian still indirectly saving Garrosh from execution
>Varian still giving the Horde one last chance after all they did to him and his son
Reminder that Arthas' last living relative, his sister Calia, died in Theramore
The Kingdom of Lordaeron was basically the Holy Roman Empire, and the city of Lordaeron just happened to be the ruling capital holding all the eggs at the time. Many of the cities were both populous and powerful, and just as wary of each other.
>There must always be a lich king
>There must always be a horde
You're really going to need to give people reasons if you want to pull that kind of bullshit, you don't just make that claim and end it there as if it's the most natural thing ever.
>most loyal living patriot of the Horde
>some depressed manboy fagnut from Outland is appointed Warchief
>there must always be a lich king
THE stupidest shit.
>no, if we kill the Lich King, the undead won't have a voice of reason and they'll destroy all of Azeroth
Why wouldn't the Lich King want to destroy Azeroth? Just kill everything and then take control of every single thing that you killed. Isn't that the fucking point?
Heard you guys talking shit about me in Alterac Valley. Like I wouldn't find out.
they retconned it so that the lich king was its own entity and arthas was still there as a poor misunderstood hero keeping him from going all out and killing everyone.
>immediately turns into a WoW thread instead
Guess I'm not surprised considering how many fucking WoW nostalgia threads /v/ has had within the last year.
WoW ruined Warcraft, Blizzard, and MMOs all at once, it's disgusting that people hold it in high regard. And it's disgusting that you fall for the same old marketing and resub over and over, and enable Blizzard to keep being shit.
Because Thrall thought people should give the son of the "orc who saved us all" a chance, just like people gave Thrall a chance. Except people didn't really give Thrall a chance as much as Orgrim Fucking Doomhammer fucking prodded him into growing a pair, then Motherfucking Medivh tossed him the free bone that should have gone to King Terenas, and THEN Greatfuckinggrandfather Cairne came along and said lets help these green motherfuckers out if they help us out
>Be entirely dominated by the Lich King's will
>FUSE with the fucking Lich King
>Somehow this gives you more control over the Lich King and after all that has happened in WC3 you're now able to hold him back
Metzen, those are pants, they do not go on your head you fucking retard.
A bunch of old rotting corpses and skeletons were going to wander around a barren wasteland, it was a huge problem even though there was a super weapon famous for turning loads of them into ash.
On 4chan, the site which you seem to be new to, it is common for threads dedicated to a general topic to have a name in the form of /name/ as an imitation of the board name format. For example, /co/ has occasional threads about Disney in general, rather than a specific movie or topic from a movie, and these threads are often called /dis/. There are also more established threads that tend to have a continual clientele and are persistent with a new thread being created as soon as the previous one has died out, as seen in the threads of /vg/, for example, /ksg/, the Katawa Shoujo general, however such threads often devolve into little more than general chatrooms, with little discussion of the ostensible topic.
>Fucked his own tribe to the point of extinction, they would have all been massacred if not for your intervention
>Consistently does excruciatingly stupid shit throughout WotLK
>GUYS GUYS, GIVE HIM A CHANCE
He wasn't fit to clean chamberpots let alone lead people.
>FUSE with the fucking Lich King
oh did you not read the book? he didn't fuse with ner'zhul, he killed him and took complete control, then cut his own heart out which contained all his humanity and threw it off the frozen throne. but then the lich king was his own person and arthas was really a good guy keeping him in line. it doesn't make any sense.
>Arthas has seen the effects of the plague firsthand
>Knew how sudden the transformation would occur
>Didn't have the forces to contain the plague and had to stop Malganis on top of that
There was literally no other option that would make any fucking sense, Uther is the biggest fucking cunt for fucking over Arthas for petty pride and some absurd sense of seniority. The fucking faggot was incompetent to the point of being incapable of making hard decisions and he would have let all of Lordaeron burn around him (and he technically did, his actions pushed Arthas over the brink as he could barely keep afloat and then his mentor figure did NOTHING BUT SABOTAGE HIM)
Fuck Uther, I'd kill him again and then piss on his remains.
>Leveling at the beginning of Wrath
>Get sent to Grizzly Hills
>Enter the zone for the first time
Not now anon, i can't handle the comfy feel
>Wrath's music in general
>mfw going to Winterspring for the first time
>Varian directly responsible for WoD happening
Oh man fucking Tower Defense and "Are you a retard?"
I played all of this shit. I miss those days.
Now what do I have, a bunch of a games that have the same gamemode all over again, W3 was just the shit.
Arthas employed a short term strategy to contain the outbreak by performing a holocaust, and it worked in the short term. But by taking away the threat in the short term, he made the entire kingdom blind to the greater long term threat and lured it into a false sense of security.
The irony is if he just let Uther stay and witness the entire ordeal, and if he obeyed the moral code of the paladins like he was supposed to, then the entire Alliance would have just cause to reform and mobilize to directly confront the Scourge. And maybe King Terenas would have reconsidered Medivh's warning and used Lordaeron's and Kul'Tiras' fleets to emigrate people to Kalimdor in preparation for the final battle.
>untextured shitty beta build
Fuck, the absolute best.
>that feel when you were the only one amongst your group of friends that played with music and ambience on
>you were the only one that got to hear this
Except if Uther had just made the case of how bad shit was getting and how desperate shit really was that they had to purge all of stratholme, rather than going full retard and making Arthas out to be the problem, this would've been resolved without any escalation.
Again, Uther fucked everything, he is directly responsible for the fall of Lordearon and he is still treated as some sage hero in WoW. Fuck that guy, fuck everything he did and fuck everything he stands for.
>Titan research are
>protected by pillars of life that ward off the undead
>Scourge sends its living members in to detroy the pillars
>undead flood in from the avalanche
There's nothing stupid about Sholazar Basin.
Terenas was a prideful faggot in denial of how bad things really were. Besides, if Arthas hadn't become a Death Knight he never would have told Illidan about the skull and he wouldn't have saved the forest and the demons would have won.
Except, you know, the fact that they could have done that years ago, and instead decided to do it after simultaneously attacking the Alliance and Horde and now fighting a war on their own lands.
Also why the fuck would the Titans have made undead-warding technology? Seems a bit specific to ward against a threat that didn't even exist when it was made.
I love how fleshed out Warcraft lore is. It almost feels like a real thing sometimes.
Also plaguelands in general
I mean fuck that stupid notion, he recombines all his essence after it having been severed, and he goes into a coma for several years? Are you fucking kidding me here?
Arthas formally disbanded his knights from service and took those knights who were not loyal to him under his personal command. Of course Arthas would look like a problem at that point; and instead of confronting King Terenas about the Scourge, he confronted Terenas about Arthas becoming out of trouble - which was affirmed by his own actions with the expedition to Northrend.
Terenas was also mindful of the political situation. He was not so powerful that he could just make the kingdoms obey an evacuation order on the whim of a prophet. Thats why the Scourge was a necessity in silencing political opposition and mobilizing under a unified command. And then Arthas quashed a small outbreak and got himself corrupted, just as Ner'zhul planned.
What's stupid about that?
Ner'zhul obtains the power to raise undead thanks to Kil'jaeden's demonic energy.
The pillars in Sholazar were most likely made to protect it from demons since they were the Titans' primary enemies.
Man, you're just reminding me. Warcraft 3 came with a GOAT manual. That thing was thick as fuck and full of lore tidbits on fucking everything. Actually kinda sad that I lost my physical copy.
Ah shit, I still have that and the vanilla WoW manual laying around, loving flipping through them. I got WoW for Christmas 2005 and it wouldn't install properly on our slow ass PC, so we couldn't get it installed until two days later, and I spent the whole time just reading through the manual. So much lore and tidbits about the littlest parts of the game.
Thrall did it because the younger orc's, which was the majority of the horde, favored Garrosh the most.
and he thought by giving Garrosh more responsability it would temper him.
however, Garrosh rightly calls this as a horrible choice, as Garrosh is just a man of war, not fit to rule, and Thrall failed him.
Thrall however, cannot come to terms with his own failure and passes this soley to Garrosh.
>Blizzard will never make another good game
I completely lost faith in them after the Diablo3 fiasco. What a waste of a company.
Still sleeping though, most likely has connection with his top men. The Wrath intro cinematic is him waking up and getting ready for war. If he was awake all this time then why did he wait years to do anything?
>Undead aren't demonic because paladin anti-demonic spells don't work on them
Exorcism and the AoE stun used to work on both undead and demons.
>Same reason why Undead are classified as humanoids instead of actual undead.
Forsakens used to be classified as undead and paladin spells actually worked on them. Blizzard took it out for balance purposes.
Arthas disbanded a bunch of insubordinate twats who let their privilege get in the way of their duty, they were told what had to be done and they outright refused to do it despite overwhelming evidence that things had gone long past the point of no return. They abandoned their prince to fight a horde of demons and undead with a handful of armed forces while they went and slandered him to his own father.
Again, if Uther had done his fucking duty, helped Arthas purge the undead from Stratholme and then inform king Terenas of how dire the situation had become (which others would also be able to clearly see at that point, political opposition would be gone by then)
Instead, he made it into a personal pissing contest between him and Arthas, he destroyed the kingdom because he was too proud to bow and too proud to admit how hardly he was wrong, even to himself.
In the end, there was one man who could have stopped the whole damn thing, one man who had one duty, and all he had to do was do it. But that was too much for him, he chickened out and sabotaged his own pupil to cover up the fact that he had disobeyed the command of a superior on the field of battle and damned thousands to a fate worse than death.
Thrall thought it would mature Garrosh because the burden of responsibility matured him, since he was a young hothead before Orgrim tried to kick his ass. The real problem with Garrosh is that he came to see only the bad in people, whereas Thrall was forever influenced by his experiences with his one true human waifu to give everyone a chance.
>those manuals for Starcraft and WC3
>reading through them as they installed
Same with WoW too. Reading through those class descriptions was great.
>Arthas disbanded a bunch of insubordinate twats who let their privilege get in the way of their duty
Arthas formally had no privileges, and basically threatened a highly esteemed and elite order of knights with political persecution once he ascended to the throne. Arthas was being a prick about it and the knights who joined him did so under pressure. Even Jaina understood this and left him over it.
Even if the plague ended then and there, both Uther and Jaina saw that Arthas would have made a terrible totalitarian who wouldn't know where to draw the line. But at the time, they did not view this as their problem to deal with.
Yeah, there were pretty clearly like six different writers working on Garrosh, since in one quest he'll kill a commander for being dishonorable, but then do the same sort of shit in another one.
Uther was a high and mighty bitch who would rather watch his kingdom burn than do something against his moral code to save it. Arthas did nothing wrong until he went to Northrend.