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That one game you think is the most overrated.

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That one game you think is the most overrated.
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You're favourite game.
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Deus Ex
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>>287035474
REmake? Yeah it probably is.
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>>287034035
Ocarina of time is my favorite game of all time
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>>287036370
You have shit taste
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>>287036423
My philosophy of life is lifted straight from Ocarina of Time
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>>287034035
Obligatory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOC3vixnj_0
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>>287036509
And what would that be?
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>>287036509
So you are just a nostalgia fag
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>>287034035
Skyrim. Like seriously holy fuck, it's really mind-boggling how many people keep claiming it's the best thing ever.
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Its shit.
SHIIIIITTTT
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>>287036818
I firmly believe that Ocarina of time is not only a landmark game for video game design, but also the single greatest artistic achievement in the history of mankind.
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>>287036713
Fucking egoraptor.

Just kidding, I didn't even open the video. But I'm right, aren't I?
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>>287035474

Maybe a little.
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>>287037032
He is right tho
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>>287037032
Of course, you must be Einstein.

But yeah, before him no one would say OOT was bad. Until he says it and they willing agree.

>Strawman argument
>"Link to the past is how it's done!"
Ironically Jon's favourite is MM
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>>287037213
It's amazing how, out of all the reasons to not like ocarina of time, he didn't name a single one.
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>>287037369
Too much pointless talking and waiting
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>>287037369
WAITING
WAITING
GAME FEELS
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>>287036906
If we make a big enough world hopefully people won't see how shit our game is.
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>>287037029
Retard
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It's literally a mechanically stripped down Dota ripoff with pay2win/pay2notgrind mechanics added, what is the appeal to it?
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Golden Sun
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>>287037525
I know, let's make the sneaking broken as fuck so people won't care about the crappy combat system.
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>>287037661
Sexy babes.
What else?
Everyone in Dota is ugly suiting its more hardcore style.
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>>287034035
Halo
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>>287037821
So go fap to the sexy babes on the internet? Why play the damn game when the babes in-game look worse than babes in launch title PS2 games?
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>>287037661
>Easy to get in to
>Huge E-Sports scene with "Plays" that make players think even they can be gods at it
>Xbawx hueg amounts of money and marketing pumped into it
>Completely Free To Play for casual players who just play a couple games a week

Comparatively, DotA 2 is hard to get into because it's far less readable and has more difficult core mechanics (Denying for instance, when to deny a turret, etc.). SMITE is third person over the shoulder, so less interesting to most, Heroes of the Storm is literally babby-moba.

LoL captured the casual audience perfectly by being just simple enough to keep them hooked, but deep enough to warrant an E-Sports scene.
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>>287034035
You are literally 12 if you play this shitbox excuse for vidya.
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>>287037661
That's funny. I was going to pick this.
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Ocarina of Time is one of my favorite games but it's most certainly overrated to the heavens and back

I'm waiting for a 3D Zelda that doesn't necessarily re-invent the wheel but rather taps into the great ideas OoT had yet couldn't fully realize--namely the combat. It's kind of nuts how you could swing your sword in almost any direction and cancel out of movement options like rolls and side-hops with jump slashes. They just need to make a game with AI that's actually smart and challenging enough to where you'd actually, like, use that.

Also ditch Z-targeting for a more free flowing combat system that allows for more creative enemy placements of multiple baddies at once but maybe that's more a personal preference than a gripe
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>>287038000
I dunno, just my reasoning.

ALSO THEM NUMBERS
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>>287038119
>Also ditch Z-targeting
Jesus fucking christ why. Z targeting was the best thing about the game.
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>>287038024
So cool

+1 internet cred
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>>287037661
It was released at a good time. DotA 1 had dropped in popularity, and Valve had yet to announce DotA 2, so as the only decent MOBA game on the market, it was easy for Riot to release LoL and make a profit.
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>>287038039
How can Dota 2 be a Dota ripoff?
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>>287038325
What?
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>>287038235
Because making every other enemy except the one you're targeting freeze at a stand-still until you kill his buddy is really lame and neuters any potential for difficulty or creativity in enemy placement you knucklehead
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>>287038325
BECAUSE LOL CAME FIRST DUMMY
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>>287038275
>DotA 1 had dropped in popularity
it really didn't, also the devs behind LoL (Guinsoo and Pendragon) were responsible for ripping ideas from Dota Allstars hero suggestion forums and then closing the website down only to leave a referral page to PVP.net, go type that link into your web browser and see where that leads you...
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>>287034035
>really shitty balance: you either get completely fucking trounced or absolutely demolish the enemy there's no in between
>boring grind fest if you want to use different classes and abilities
>story starts off with a ton of promise then devolves into MUH ALMA
>uniques literally do nothing after their plot part is over (agrias is totally okay with losing the princess and says nothing else during the entire game unless she dies or leaves)
>easy to miss shit you can't go back and do
>tavern jobs/assignments are completely fucking useless
>game doesn't feel complete with abilities for single stages (what the fuck do you need lava walking for? one god damn stage that you never even have to land on?)

I like tactics games a lot but felt FFT fell short.
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>>287036906
skyrim is like masturbating at first it feels good doing it but then you later regret doing it but you still keep doing it
>actual steam review
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>>287038325
He meant he thinks DotA 2 is overrated, retard.
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>>287034035
NO.NO YOU FUCKING IDIOT. I played that horribly flawed game as a kid, it's perfect you little shit.
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>>287038510
>every other enemy except the one you're targeting freeze at a stand-still until you kill his buddy
That has absolutely nothing to do with the targeting system you fucking idiot.
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>>287038587
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this was one big fucking letdown
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>>287034035
I don't use that word because I'm not a pretentious hipster cunt.
>STOP praising this game guys! -I- don't think it's that great!
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>>287038515
But LoL came out in 2009, many years after Dota.
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>>287038770
It's not overrated, it was just extremely overhyped. Most sensible people do agree on that it's shit.
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>>287038716
>horribly flawed

How?
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>>287038737
Wow calm down dude

And yeah actually it does, you can even read in one of the Iwata asks for OoT 3D with Koizumi (lead 3D systems director) on how they specifically programmed fights like the Stalfos so that the game would register which one you were targeting and make the other ones do nothing until you killed it, as inspired by a traditional form of stageplay sword-fighting in Japan that I forget the name of right now
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any horror game that does not include skeletons does not deserve to be called a horror game
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>>287037360
You don't know what irony means, mouthbreather.
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>>287037462
Why?
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>>287038947
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>>287038945
>they specifically programmed fights like the Stalfos so that the game would register which one you were targeting and make the other ones do nothing until you killed it
Wow. Amazing. You're saying they programmed AI differently because of the targeting system? So you mean that your problem with z targeting has nothing to do with z targeting and you just don't like the AI? Fucking kill yourself.
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>>287038869
apperently the game changes every 20 hours so that it can feel like a new game,thats because after 20 hours of playing it, you take it back to the store for a new game.
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>>287038770
my god all my cred for bungie just went into the shitter when i played this fucking game
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>>287039110
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>>287038770
>Activision
whenever you see that name in a game, you know it's going to be a disappointment.
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>>287034035
why is it overrated? it was a gem because it pushed the boundaries when it came out. obviously games age, but I still think the praise for it is warranted.
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>>287038938
...Don't tell me you're that far down the rabbit hole.
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>>287035474
No I am not.
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>>287038794
I know I was playing devil's advocate.

Point is some people believe MOBAs came from LoL originally and not dota.
They get past this by saying that just because it has a 2 doesn't mean it's the same thing.

Point is it's an ignorant argument because LoL came before Dota 2 and so they feel like they had originality.
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>>287034035
Half Life 2
Mass Effect
Portal
Bioshock

Take your pick, it's all shit.
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>>287034035
It's pretty freaking good though.

Skyrim here on the other hand is quite an incredible feat.

It's an open-world action RPG and it's fucking terrible at both, being an action game and being an RPG.
Skyrim is shit at nearly everything aside from modability and the lore behind it and yet nearly every filthy normalpleb and even a good bunch of gaming veterans think it's the best thing since sliced bread.
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King of the Hill Online is vastly overrated, next to Skoobs Online and Fesh Pince Online.

Ed Edd n Eddy Online is the new hotness.
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>>287039143
>targeting can make a direct impact on enemy AI but that doesn't mean the targeting is involved in the AI

This is how I'm translating your post into a non-angry-neckbeard language, am I getting it close because honestly I don't speak whatever you're talking in

Whatever the case I have no idea what point you're trying to make or why you're even mad
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>>287039315
>Avoiding the question.

Great argument Anon.
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>>287039103
Yes I do.

Jon loves everything Erin hates about Zelda.
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>>287039423
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>>287038272
>mad LoLer detected


Stay mad faggot. League = Baby's first DOTA
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>>287039441
OoT here on the other hand is quite an incredible feat.

It's an open-world action Adventure it's fucking terrible at both, being an action game and being an adventure .
OoT is shit at nearly everything aside from music and the lore behind it and yet nearly every filthy normalpleb and even a good bunch of gaming veterans think it's the best thing since sliced bread.
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only pc users will get this
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>>287036509
This.
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literally every zelda game

but I play games for the combat so of course zelda is shit to me
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The Metal Gear Solid is incredibly overrated.
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>>287039581
Ok bronze rank shitter :)
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>>287039705
I was a lonely little autist who 100% that game.Take that back right now, that game is art.
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>>287034035
The Last of Us
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>>287039715
Wait what? Daikatana was never overrated, it was just shit all around.
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>>287039715
I bought Daikatana, so in that regard, he kinda did.
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>>287034035
The Last Of Us/The Last Of Us Remastered
It is

Even it's multiplayer
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>>287039846
Games can't be art ever
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>>287039896
yeah now that i think about it youre right it was overhyped not overrated
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>>287037471
Z-target
Wait
Wait
Wait
Slice.
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>>287039367
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>>287039849
This.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTsBn36yPrg
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>>287039441
Guys, guys! It's an expert in the field of Medieval combat and folklore! Finally, we can get some insight from a professional who knows the source material used in games like Skyrim. Wait, what's that? Oh, you're not an expert in medieval combat and folklore? You're just a faggot who's mad because everyone likes a game that you have a hard time enjoying? Well, aren't you the ribeye steak of faggotry.

If veterans in the gaming industry as well as consolefags (and yes, even you PCucks) all agree that Skyrim was a notable creation in the RPG genre, maybe that should tell you that your opinion means fuck-all to the population that listens to those gamers when looking for their next vidya to play. Stop being so basic.
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>>287034035
all those zelda fanatics right now
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>>287039705
>the lore behind it
The way the lore is laid out is also interesting, but I agree.
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>>287040240
Zelda fanatic is a codeword for casual.
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>>287040217
>Stop being so basic.
You mean what Skyrim is?
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>>287040240
Didn't Capcom make this game?
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>>287036906
200 hour wardrobe simulator
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>>287040136
Isn't that how swordfighting typically works though? Waiting for your opponent to fuckup then slice?
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>>287035474
>>287039367
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>>287040217
Yeah, it's not as if we have been talking about its shortcomings for almost freaking 4 years now.
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>>287040217
>stop having an opinion about your hobby guys
>stop it
>you're not casual enough for your opinion to matter

literally all I'm reading
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Pick a game and chances are I'll think it's overrated. Not being a hipster or anything, I just don't feel like there's really ever been a game that's been so great that everyone should line up to suck the creator's dick.
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The ONLINE part of the game not the main game its so fucking buggy and you can barely connect to a server and the heist made it worse because you can only play with 4 people and if one of them lose connection it ends the game and yet people keep praising it left and right of how good it is but again this is just my own personal opinion
>probably gonna get alot of hate for this
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>>287039516
He's saying your objection with how they programmed their AI to respond to their implementation of Z-targeting is not an inherent aspect of Z-targeting and is therefore not a valid criticism of Z-targeting in general.
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>>287041179
and yes i know im a dirty console peasant
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>>287035652
this
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