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Why did it fail? Now that Vita and PSTV have been discontinued

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Why did it fail?

Now that Vita and PSTV have been discontinued let's ask ourselves why did they fail so miserably?
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Sony wanted it to be kill
But I love my Vita regardless!
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>>285743179
>discontinued
source?
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Because unlike consoles, the quality of the games matters so naturally Sony never stood a chance.
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>>285743423
EVERY. FUCKING. THREAD.
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Where's the sauce OP?
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Memory card prices.
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>>285743423
>Posting it in both threads
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>>285743423
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Not enough games that appeal to the western market. So basically only weebs bought it.
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Hardware Sales (followed by last week’s sales)

PlayStation 4 – 46,139 (24,737)
PlayStation Vita – 23,619 (35,203)
New 3DS LL – 22,620 (23,466)
PlayStation 3 – 8,926 (5,810)
New 3DS – 8,515 (8,657)
Wii U – 6,606 (6,070)
3DS – 2,795 (2,707)
3DS LL – 2,666 (3,343)
PlayStation Vita TV – 838 (731)
Xbox One – 703 (1,381)
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>>285743479
His ass
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I love my vita
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>>285744093
who is buying the ps4 and for what reason
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>>285744093

>A distant third in a three system race

Vita is saved!
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>>285744249
Dragon Quest. It won't be long till the PS4 is selling like hotcakes in Japan
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>>285744249
[PS4] Dragon Quest Heroes (Square Enix, 02/26/15) – 269,303 (New)

>>285744257
Stop being a retard.
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>>285743179
The games are niche, the hardware is expensive, and it didn't have monster hunter.
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>>285744249

It's like the iPhone, monkey see monkey do.
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I like my Vita. I don't understand the lack of love for it.
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I love my vita!


>>285744680
Normalfags plague /v/ like cancer
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>>285744680
Cause lack of diversity. Not everyone is interested in Japanese games only.
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>>285744456
ah yes, that'll do it
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>>285743423
the second screen is too cluttered, you can't see shit
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>>285745103
Which makes no sense since Japan makes higher quality games than the west
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>>285743423
>>285744214
>>285744812

What kind of people are these? I'm honestly curious. Do they have a healthy social life? Do they work out at all? Do they have jobs to support themselves? Are they pedophiles?
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>>285745103

If you're not interested you just move on. The Vita somehow attracts more hate than disinterest in /v/. Mentioning that it has the most games being developed out of all platforms triggers the nintendo brigade.
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>>285745220
correction: not everyone is interested in weeb games only.
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>>285745220
How do you define what's higher quality? More anime girls in skimpy armor?
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>>285745230
I'm pretty sure if any of us had a social life then we wouldn't need 4chan. Yes to everything but the first and last, faggot
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>>285745350
Well first off, games that don't force SJW agendas down my throat like western shit
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>>285744812
>Conception 2

lmao you fagg
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>>285745220
Maybe to you. I want both Western and Japanese games.

>tfw no GTA Vita
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No real system sellers for me. I really wanted a Burnout or GT game for it. A port of Yakuza or Final Fantasy 12 would have also sold me on it.
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>>285745230

>Working out

Manchild/Forever entry level worker detected.
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>>285745314
To be fair, He's responding to a person who's asking why there's a 'lack of love' for it.

As to why people hate on it, I guess /v/ is more nintendo kids than I gave it credit for? I dunno. I barely come here anymore so I'm not aware of the demographics.
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>>285745350

skimpy anime girls

SJW bullshit

skimpy anime girls

SJW bullshit

Gee, on the scale of which one of those is more appealing, it's an incredibly hard decision, isnt it?
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>>285745514
Never really been a GTA fan, to be fair though I've only played IV and Episodes from Liberty City.
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>>285745575
What?
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>>285745568
This, not the same desires, but if there was Castlevania and Pop'n Music on it like on the PSP then I'd have bought one. Same if they hadn't cancelled that Lost Planet 2 port. Right now, the only game I'm passively interested in is Umehara Kawase.
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>>285745314
But I own a Vita and play it for the Japanese exclusives it has. I'm just saying people don't like it here cause it has literally no good western games. Uncharted was just some launch title. Same with AC: L. The one I enjoyed a bit was Killzone, and that's not saying much.
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>>285745413
>I'm pretty sure if any of us had a social life then we wouldn't need 4chan.

How does that even make sense? If I have a social life, I can't browse anonymous imageboards on my free time?
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>>285745413
I have a girlfriend and I'm going to college, yet I love my Japanese panty quest games.
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>>285745905
Don't forget that the PSP was a compelling portable media device in 2005. Fast-forward to 2012 and the Vita doesn't have that same edge now that everybody has smartphones and tablets.
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>>285743423
>>285744214
>>285744812
Me too
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>>285745804

Actual functioning adults with good careers rarely have time for anything past some basic cardio.
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>>285746036
You know, people make the panty quest joke, but I don't think I've ever actually seen a game where your goal is to collect panties and nothing else. Not fucking girls with panty collecting on the side, just straight panty collecting. Does that exist, and is it any good?
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>>285746105
That is some A-grade stupidity right there, anon.
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>>285744680

It's okay, but it's like 7/10: The System, it has some fine games but that's they're just fine.

I also hate the Vita's userbase on /v/ who think labelling games weaboo makes them somehow better, when I'm sat here in a room surrounded by anime figures with a giant [email protected] multi cloth on my ceiling and I have some jackass on /v/ telling me I don't like a Vita game because I'm not a weaboo when I criticise the library.
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>>285746105
That's bullshit.
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>>285746105
You do realize that makes no sense at all, right?
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>>285746252
There's a Japanese game where you solid snake crawl through a school and take pictures of girls panties. Someone post the YouTube video.
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>>285746105
>Lower class people on welfare working 3 jobs a day to feed their 10 siblings rarely have time for anything past some basic cardio.

Fixed, feel sorry for you Pedro
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>Save up $200 for the New 3DS
>"Fuck, I already have a 3DS and it works fine,"
>Wanna play Persona and Gravity Rush
>Buy a Vita

I've actually lost sleep over whether or not this was a good financial decision. Especially this late in the game, I feel like they're just gonna announce vita 2 at e3 and them I'm gonna feel like shit.
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>>285743745
This is who I am
>>285743894
Everyone shall know my love!
>>285743912
S-Sorry god
>>285745216
You mean the Marisa one? I don't keep anything important there, I just keep it for no reason
>>285745230
I kinda have the chance to get a social life, but it's too boring and tiring to do so. I used to work out in a gym, but I prefer playing basketball (and at least I'm not fat). Also, I'm still at my last year at school, and with all the homework we get it's kinda hard finding a job. I'm no pedophile, though (but I like lolis)
>>285746084
I should start looking for those beads, I want to make some Neps too
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I'm getting some nice milage out of my PSTV, actually.

Looking forward to Pirate Warriors 3.
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>>285745575
How fat do you have to be actually believe that?
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>>285743179
1. We didn't need a touch pad gimmick
2.It needed to cater to it's strengths and bring more Japanese girl games over
3.it fucked over the VITA users by never giving a TV out cable even though it has a port for it
4.Shitty LED screen on VITA2000
5.Sony is retarded and didn't strike a deal with hulu and netflix to make streaming apps for the VITATV
6.Everybody is too busy with their 240p 3DS playing a games they have played 20 times before (Mario and Pokemon)
7.Western support is non-existent
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s h i t p o s t t h r e a d
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>>285746702
ALSO, VITA ONLY EXPENSIVE AS FUCK MEMORY CARDS.
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>>285746538
I deliberated about buying a vita for over a year after it released. I am glad I bought one now and feel like I have got a good value out of it.
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>>285746702

Wait, the Vita has a video output port?
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>>285746293
You're just a faggot
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>>285746702
Don't forget it has hardly any flagship titles, overpriced memory cards and Sony never marketed it. Just some Japanese games made by niche devs. Not necessarily a bad thing but a Console needs some damn popular exclusives to do well. I just found out about the Oreshika thing too.
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>>285747139
On the VITA1000, theirs a unused port on top of the system that was going to be for a TV out cable. They got rid of it in the VITA2000 versions
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>>285747273
Persona 4 Golden maybe? I dunno. I like Persona but I wish Atlus would have made some SMT for the vita instead of putting it on the 240p machine.
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>>285743179
The hardware was too expensive to develop for and Sony stupidly let Nintendo take the Monster Hunter exclusivity that made the PSP such a success in Japan.
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>>285744214
You fucking did it. You spawned a fucking meme. Congratulations retard.
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>>285748227
Leave him alone. He wants the Vita to leave some history behind, since it's going to be Sony's last handheld.
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>>285746084
Hi Brian.
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>>285748227
It's not even him anymore, he sometimes changes his pictures
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>>285746702
Hulu works if you update the app
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>>285746702
>Western support is non-existent

thats the biggest reason.

fuck weaboos. that's the real fucking reason the vita was not bought. it has none good games besides persona animu weaboo shit

also:

>no fucking monster hunter

this was the biggest reason people bought the psp, even in europe and america
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>>285748827
Hello
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Just wait for based chinaman to release knockoff memory cards and for the thing to get hacked, and it'll become the emulation machine to surpass the PSP
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>>285749090
Yeah, that's why I said he spawned a meme. I saw at least 5 guys posting the same stupid shit as him.
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>>285749181
I bought mine for Daxter. No regrets.

Also piracy for Vita when?
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>>285749181
You know you just contradicted yourself right?
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>>285749181
>westaboos actually believed this
>despite the vita launching only with normalfag titles like cod
nice boogeyman, weebs saved it and thank god. Western trash can rot .
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>>285749353
>Also piracy for Vita when?

this

I'm waiting for the CFW
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>>285749354
monster hunter is one of the only played JRPGs in the western world and also the most recognized.
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>>285749487
>MonHun
>JRPG
U fokin wot
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>>285743179
I own one and it's sad for me to agree with you.

I still use my VITA, but I see nothing worthwhile to buy in the VITA's Future.

The best thing sony can do is drop the memory stick prices.
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>>285749487
>>285749610
>pirate on vita
>all the good and graceful jap games stop getting localized

although the only good thing that would come out is a cheat engine, like cwcheats for psp. a casual like me would love it
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>>285743179

>no western games beside starters
>no monster hunter
>no advertising

the biggest flaws

i'm weaboo though so no regrets after buying vita but even i have to admit that vita has weak library of games especially in comparison to psp
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> 11m sold
> failed

It has sold more than WiiU has during the same timespan.

>>285749484

Never.
You can, however, emulated PSP and everything older on it.

>>285749670

It's loaded with games now and in the future.
If you dont like weebs, you shouldnt have bought it.
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>>285749610
It is an RPG made in Japan. While it may not fit into your subjective interpretation of the term, it does conform to the literal definition of the term.
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>>285750019
is it bad/autistic to play weeb games? I'm even considering akibas trip
I despise weaboos, anime and all that gay shit but the games are fun to play
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>>285750176
I didn't even think it was an RPG

>>285750198
Playing and enjoying Japanese games doesn't mean you're a weeaboo.
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>>285749976

> no monster hunter

Someone missed the train it seems.
MH Frontier is coming this year.

Not to west, because west doesnt really buy MH games anyway.

> the biggest flaws

Nope. Not even close.
The biggest flaw is memory card pricing. This is what has kept off majority from getting one.

For a device that is meant to be digital (mostly) with its..

> 900 PSV games
> 500+ PSP games via PSN
> 400+ PS1 games via PSN

Asking 100$+ for a memory card is fully retarded.
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>>285749610
>farming, questing, creating your own character, doing the shit you want, "non linear" story
>created in japan

>no JRPG

you w0t m8?
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>>285746538
I did the same and I'm really glad I did. I do like the New 3DS but I'm not missing out on anything relevant since the regular 3DS is all I need.

>I feel like they're just gonna announce vita 2 at e3

The Vita is just 3 years old, m8. It'll be a while before they announce its successor.
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>>285750198

Playing Japanese games =/= weaboo.

This is like saying drinking any other alchohol other than beer means you're a fag.

You can play and enjoy whatever you feel like. Stop being so obsessed with labels.
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>>285750198
I wouldn't say so. I'm playing persona 4 golden and don't really care for anime.
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>>285743179
SCEA never gave a shit about it, Sony tried to push it almost entirely on AAA-lite titles instead of the kinds of games that actually sell handhelds. Then add expensive memory cards and the lack of any IPs that are big sellers in either the east or the west. The most popular game the system has is an updated port of a niche PS2 game.
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>>285746702
>Western support is non-existent
When have western devs ever given significant support to a handheld? There are some good western handheld games, but the vast majority of non-shovelware titles have always been japanese.
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>>285750567
If you want a comfy ass JRPG, play Atelier. Shit is the most comfy and uplifting.
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>>285750327
Bought a 64gb card + persona 4, fucking 130+ euro for it.
I also feel sony just doesn't give a shit about us, the new digimon RPG is supposed to be big but yet there's probably no chance of being localized
the new Yu Gi Oh also seems good sincei t features the originalseries and GX(I never looked past those)

>>285746538
>I feel like they're just gonna announce vita 2

same here, just bought it and I'm afraid it'll get a new better model or some shit
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>>285750567

I just recently finished it. God tier game.

And by the way. There is anime of it. So in 4-5 years when you feel like remembering this golden (kek) piece of a game - you can watch the anime of it.

There is anime for original P4 (26 episodes) and for P4G (12 episodes)

P4G anime has all the fillers cut out. But has Marie.
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>>285750019
>kotaku
>Compares to Wii U considering price and the fact it's a home console
>Implying it can't be hacked
>"It has games! I promise!'

Nice shill mate.
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>>285750808
Yeah, Sony does kinda piss me off with how thy treat the Vita. Oreshika should've been given a physical release considering its a first party game with high production values.

>same here, just bought it and I'm afraid it'll get a new better model or some shit
>Implying Sony is Nintendo
They never re-release their consoles/handhelds with more powerful upgrades. Its always re-designs with newer/cheaper parts (See: PS3 Fat, Slim, Super Slim)
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>>285746538
>>285750808
>implying Sony will ever make another handheld
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>>285750898

These are actual facts, dear shitposter.

> kotaku

Reporting on the number of PSV games that have a release year to all other console games for JPN that have a release year.

You know. Actual numbers, not retarded opinions?

> Compares to Wii U considering price and the fact it's a home console

Wii was a home console. Didnt sell so bad.
PS3 was a home console. Didnt sell so bad.

WiiU is a home console and sells worse than Vita. Being or not being a home console doesn't matter, if it's the worst selling console in recent times.

> Implying it can't be hacked

Yep. It can't. Pirated Vita games will not be possible.
If you would actually follow GBAtemp, PS3Hax or any other hacking scene community, you'd know about it too.

> It has games! I promise!

And it does.
More than you could imagine. Over 900 to be exact. Just more than half have never been translated.
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>>285751203
They're making a VR.
Don't question if they'll do something stupid again.
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I don't care, I love my Vita
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>>285751465
NANO NANO
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>download silent hill demo since I actually had fun with shattered memories on ps
>create character, nice.
>get into game
>what

what is this game supposed to be?
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>>285751465
T-that floor
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vita is literally the cuck console when you consider those memory cards
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>>285751387

its weird tho

with some things they nail it so good, it's like back in early 2000's ... PS4 and Xperia phones / tablets

and then they things like this (see image)

a fucking $400 dollar alarm clock

and they just recenetly announced a $1400 USD walkman
and a "premium sound" memory card for triple the normal price
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>>285751465
What Atelier is your favorite anon?
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>>285746538

they don't announce new handheld in near future because vita has been on market for like only 3 years? it is still too soon
they could just lower the price of memory cards and make more aaa titles like gta san andreas stories rather than making whole new system - vita still has really good hardware as for mobile device so there isn't really any need to make next gen of it

but i think that there won't be next handheld console from sony after how hard ps vita floped
if sony would want to still fight in handheld market then they would just focused on vita rather than making it gimmicky controller and streaming device for ps4
sony just gave up on handhelds and we all have to admit it
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>>285745230
I use my Vita almost all the time. Tales of Hearts R and EDF are the last games I enjoyed on it, and I`m loving Oreshika right now.
I have a job as a Engineering Consultant, as well as a degree in Biology and Chemistry. I also have plenty of friends, go out regularly, and have poor spending habits, most of which goes to consoles I don`t use that much anymore.

I`m curious why you are being so assuming.
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>>285751749
not him, but ive been playing totori after dropping it for months, and its actuall kinda fun now. guess i needed to become more weebified to actually enjoy it
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>>285751301
You forgot to count you're a shill.

> kotaku
>You know. Actual numbers, not retarded opinions?
Excuse me?
Are you really trying to put those two together?

Also handheld consoles are more easily made and so cheaper.
You forgot to count that the 3DS has floored vita in sales.
But they don't matter right?

Anything can be hacked give it time.
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>>285751749
rorona
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>>285746293
You'd best share that wallpaper son
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>>285744249
>I am so blinded by hate for sony I can't imagine why people buy their products
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>>285751609
Not really, a lot of consoles have stupid removed features, Nintendo is the biggest offender of all right now. Cutting down the battery on the Wii U pad, accessories like the Gamecube thing, Amiibo DLC, New Nintendo 3DS lack of charger and switch to MicroSD, it certainly adds up.

At least with a Vita memory card, you have an associated account to confirm you have access to these games. Generally speaking, you can get returns on the card provided you buy sale items which are priced really well.
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>>285751895
Totori is my least favorite of the Arland series. Meruru a best and the cutest.
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>>285752152
Games in the PSN are actually pretty cheap, sadly I prefer physical to digital
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>>285751910
>Also handheld consoles are more easily made and so cheaper.
The Wii U was being discontinued so early on, it was going for lower prices than a new Vita bundle. That`s no excuse.

Not the same guy, I bought my Wii U brand new for $140 because the price bombed so fast within the 2nd year.
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>>285751910

> You forgot to count you're a shill.
Nah. I just actually follow more communities than retarded shitposters on /v/

> Also handheld consoles are more easily made and so cheaper.
So?
> You forgot to count that the 3DS has floored vita in sales.
What makes you think I "forgot" this? Maybe I should have also mentioned that PSP sales > 3DS sales?
> But they don't matter right?
Nope.
Because WiiU is selling worse than Vita, and neither of them is getting discontinued any time soon. Despite having below average sales.

> Anything can be hacked give it time.
Absolutely agreed.

But the groups that were working on Vita lost interest in it. Not worth the time and effort.

Just like with PS3.
It was possible to hack up to a certain FW only. And anything above that remains unhackable til today. Even with modchips.

It's more likely we will hear some progress with PS4/X1 hacking actually. They are the main focus.
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>>285743179
SCEA has actively made an attempt to steer attention away from it and onto the PS4. They've unofficially killed it as of now.
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>>285750019

>It has sold more than WiiU has during the same timespan.

The Vita is at 10 million in three years and the Wii U is at 9 million in two years.
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>>285746293
>Vita userbase on /v/
Oh lord. The same fanbase that flips shit when you call an average game average. The same fanbase that shits on you if you don't like the flavor of the month.
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>>285752636
Except the Wii U is not nearly that, and NDP has been neglecting to even report Wii U numbers because they are so low. North American "sales" on all charts are stacked with no information backing them.
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>>285751960
It's one of those

http://imgur.com/a/TTs95
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>>285751465

Post the Nichijou wallpaper please.

>>285751960

Here.
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>>285752703
This can apply to any game, on any platform, with any fanbase. This is just you being contrarian because you have a hate boner for a platform, which is weird and oddly sociopathic.
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>>285752636

Huh?

Vita : early 2012 (late dec 2011 in JPN)
WiiU : Q3 2012

It's ~half a year
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>>285752760

Bullshit, public traded companies are legally required to release numbers.
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>>285746535
>>285746429
>>285746387

Sorry, keep bagging my groceries, early 20s betamaxes.
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>>285752851
Thanks asshole, my boss saw this now he wants me to see him in his office
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>>285752452
> PSP sales > 3DS sales?
Orrr PSP to Ds sales right?
Oh wait.

DS won that too.
My bad.

Point is you just sound like you're really desperate to prove the Vita is worth something.
Arguably yes.
Arguably no.

But I'm saying that's not something you need to prove, or fabricate in this case.
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>>285752978

Then why doesn't square have to release FFXIV numbers? Because they only have to release their profit numbers and not unit numbers for the quarter.
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>>285752978
Actually, no. Things like Walmart do not release numbers week by week. Which begs the question as to where numbers are even coming from.
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>>285752959

Vita December 17, 2011
Wii U 18 November 2012
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>>285752851
you can crop it yourself
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>>285752910
>This can apply to any game, on any platform, with any fanbase
When it's a common occurrence amongst the fanbase, it's a problem. What you're doing is deflecting the problem.
>hate boner for a platform
Don't know where I said that.
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Handheld games is a much more core market than console games. What I mean by that is handheld games aren't "cool" like console games are. No one's going to buy a 3DS or a Vita to fit in. It HAS to have good games. Advertising isn't enough.

Anyway when the 3DS got 3D land and Mario Kart 7 it was over. Animal crossing was the final nail in the coffin.
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>>285753305
Okay, then welcome to every fanbase ever. Be it Zelda, Kirby, Smash, Souls, Witcher, etc.

Thanks for that you fucking retard.
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>>285753305

Literally every fanbase confirmed for the worst fanbase then by your logic. No matter the game, if you say "I don't like thing" someone will sperg out about it.
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>>285753392
>Animal Crossing
You spelled Pokemon wrong.
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>>285753305
It's just a self-defense mechanism anon.

Any criticism is responded with "Then you must hate it/us!"
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>>285753165
>>285753176

They don't have to submit data automatically but you yourself can get in touch with any publicly traded company and they would be required to release information to you.
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Vita library pretty overrated by the people who have it, not saying the 3DS library isn't either though.

Vita just a 7/10 system at best. If you don't like It new IPs, Monster hunter clones or indies you are basically fucked.

The japanese games aren't even that good.

I like my 3DS slightly better for few reasons, mainly one of them is that it can play DS games.

Both handhelds honestly blow.
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>>285753392
Those games did nothing, Pokemon is what made the 3DS sell, but it didn't do enough to make one platform invalidated; the issue with the Vita is that it needs to hit well with Western audiences and only core gamer type of games are being made for it. It doesn't have a "POkemon" to push it regardless of the game's shitty quality.
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>>285753463
>every fanbase confirmed for the worst
If you say so. I wasn't the one throwing comparisons about. I was only talking about the Vita.
>someone will sperg out about it
I understand that. I don't understand why you feel the need to tell me that.
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>>285753552
Okay, well I want you to call up walmart right now and request a current listing for retail sales in your region and post it here. Go ahead.
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>>285753573
My vita is an atelier machine
My 2DS is an SMT machine.
I accept it
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>>285753632
Animal crossing is responsible for at least half the sales in Japan.
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>>285753573
Or maybe the platform is good just not good to you? The concept of overhype is a personal problem, one that is based on your sole interpretation. For me, the Vita will always be on top because of many more games I really enjoy on it, and this is coming from someone who owns the entire 3DS library; the 3DS is something you don't really need to own this generation and you wouldn't miss out on a single excellent or worthwhile game.
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What is your preferred method of getting vita games to play? Or games in general

http://strawpoll.me/3798252
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>>285753827
Maybe it just established the shitty children's demographic in Japan. Which is why the recent games are below par quality.
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>>285753764
Hang on. My Mom's barely leaving for work at walmart, you'll get your answer in about an hour.
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>>285753764

I'm not American and you'd probably have to submit a formal request since they wont exactly have a team sitting at desks ready to present numbers.
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>>285753964

>the 3DS is something you don't really need to own this generation and you wouldn't miss out on a single excellent or worthwhile game

Same with the Vita with me honestly.
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>>285753992

>Buying digital on a system with overpriced proprietary memory
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>>285754084
No need to be so mad
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>>285743179
Can't say. I own both a 3DS and a Vita, and found the Vita much more enjoyable to play.
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>>285754086
>>285754094
Protip: Walmart is part of the NDP group, who now keep sales data and only release it if paid. They use it for marketting in the majority to project sales and orders on products.
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>>285754203
I can't agree there, the Vita at least houses new IPs and interesting, explorative games. The 3DS is a slew of disappointing sequels that end up the worst of their respective series.

>>285754229
I'm not really mad, just games made for a lower tier audience is why 3DS games scrape by on mobile quality titles.
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>>285745230
I'm happily married, and have a full time job with benefits that pays 50k per year in the midwest.

I just also happen to like my vita.
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>>285743179
>Why did it fail?
Same reason as the Wii U - it has a shit name.
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>>285754564

vita means life
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>>285754467
>games made for a lower tier audience
Which games are made for a high tier audience?
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>>285743179
Man I wanted the Vita to be a success so bad. Had such potential but devs couldn't make fun games on it. Proof is that graphics don't make the game, but they sure as fuck help out.

If nintendo had the same hardware as the vita, we would have full fucking wii U games on the 3DS.

I know this is a vita thread but Sony should give up on handhelds, since their consoles sell so well anyway. Nintendo should give up on consoles and just make an HDDS, Give that shit at least 720p image, and the processing power of 2 Galaxy s6's (one on the top screen, and one on the bottom) :^)
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>>285753084
He wants to fuck.
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>>285754610
How ironic.
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>>285754610
Wii U means you
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>>285754467

I disagree completely, I disliked majority of their new IP's. Only one that was okay to me was Freedom Wars. 3DS at least had couple games I liked and can play DS games, but my vita just never played at all.
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A library full of 6-7/10 games with a great deal of them being multiplat.

It's the worst game system since the SEGA Saturn, excluding the Ouya.
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>>285754692
One that have a teenager and up demographic and don't need heavy casual pandering, tutorials, and simplification for the sake of accessibility.
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>>285754610
>Vita has no games therefore Vita has no life
Had to be done.
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>>285754827
So which games?
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>>285754747

What about ps4?
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>>285749181
Western support existed briefly before it bombed. Apparently they needed market analysts to tell them that making shitty ports of games you could already play on a home console was not a way to succeed.
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>>285754696
I'm pretty sure they won't be releasing another handheld. This is why the Sony Xperia Z3 can also remote play the PS4.

They will phase out the handhelds once the Vita's cycle ends, and then just focus on their phone division (which is a mixed bag).
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>>285754696
Nintendo will never improve their hardware if there's no competition.
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>>285754808
Hey, care to post your PSN? How many of those games have you played?
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>>285743179

>posting this while vita and ps4 outsell 3ds and wiiu in japan

Someone is upset. But here are some answers to your questions.

Sony always wins because of developer support and their focus on platforms. Sony helps developers accomplish their goals. They view the platform as a tool to assist developers. Nintendo, MS and Valve all treat developers as tools to further their own agenda. Every time developers support them, it's because they were paid to do so. Whether that means moneyhatting or blue ocean doesn't change this fact. Money is the only reason anyone ignores Sony. Sony is large enough that small developers greatly benefit from working with them. It gives independent developers access to larger networks for publishing and localization that they previously would not have been able to consider. In addition to their pro developer stance, Sony doesn't make many games. They focus more on improving the platform than developing their own games, which is part of why they continue to have more games and more multiplatform titles. Sony is more interested in winning consumers with overall quality than exclusivity or unique features. They're basically the Samsung of gaming. Conveniently, most of Sony's own games are pretty shitty so nobody cares that they don't make that many games. Except for shitposters; they want you to think that Sony fans care about Sony itself.
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>>285745230

>What kind of people are these?

VITA STRONG
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>>285754749
That's nice. I can't say I can even recall many worthwhile 3DS games in one hand without falling short for a 5th game to name.
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>>285754696
Theirs still a large enough market in japan for one maybe, but it's pretty dead everywhere else. Question is, will Sony just make a new handheld japan only?
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>>285754907
it's "4" you
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>>285755096
That's because most of those shit posters are Nintenyearolds that really do care about Nintendo as a company.
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>>285755247

the xbone is a pretty big console
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>>285755142

That's nice, I can completely understand that. Like I said, Both handhelds just blow.
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>>285754907
It's 4 the players.
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>>285755120

Oh wait that's out of date
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>>285744812
How is Oreshika?
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>>285755397

Old miku looked better
Why did nep move?
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>>285744680

Because you can get majority of library else where.

Is that so hard to understand?
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>>285755201

Highly unlikely. Some japanese developers still want to try localization. Remember, even if localizations bomb, developers receive licensing fees up front. They really couldn't care if their localization partner profits or not. Handheld is still competing with mobile in japan, so sony would be retarded not to make a new handheld since that would force every localization effort into porting.

Declining popularity doesn't mean dropping out of the market. It merely means the market has changed. Besides, this is a good thing for us. Fewer casuals means more games and hardware pandering to our demands.
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>>285755397
Totori is the worst

>>285755597
Vita contains the definitive edition of many games
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>>285755731
the PC contains the definitive editions of many games and the vita library is already better on Steam
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>>285743179
Vita is love.
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>>285755096
but why the fuck do they ignore the west vita market?
why don't they help out or even encourage localizations?
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>>285754996

Worst system since the SEGA Saturn.
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>>285755850
Call me when Steam gets Atelier. Im glad Nep is getting more love, but my vita is an Atelier machine right now.
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Vita is deffo the best handheld (I don't even like JRPG's and all that shit). I barely use my 3DS I like the Vita a lot more. Especially as it has loads of Monster Hunter rip offs

>>285746084

Every time I see those beads man... I wish I had the time to do that
>>
No games. Or rather, no games of value.

I have a Vita, and when you buy a game that's a huge time sink like Disgaea 3 & 4 or Atelier, you look at other games at the same price that clock in at maybe eight hours of gameplay and wonder why you'd spend that kind of money on it.
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>>285755637
I don't know man. Remember that Sony has their own Mobile store (which you can also access on the Vita).

I can't see them putting out another handheld like the PSP or Vita, even if I wish they would (Vita is the ONLY handheld I have ever liked, and has allowed me to keep a dumbphone and its incredibly cheap rates, while having a device like a smart phone around.
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Vita friends does Ayesha run any better on vita? Meruru runs like complete ass.
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>>285755982
But I loved the saturn.
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>>285756265
It's the same as any other Atelier on the Vita... Framerate issues in places.
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>>285754696
>Nintendo should give up on consoles and just make an HDDS

That's not happening at any time

Prepare for console/handheld hybrid of some sort like the Vita playing off PS4 games or something to that nature

Is Nintendo even interested in VR gaming though? I could see them do holograms or some form of augmented reality stuff instead
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>>285755597

Nice disinfo. 40 of my 54 vita games are exclusive. Get fucked.

>>285755939

Because developers don't want to get involved in the west. The west doesn't care for japan anymore. The future is southeast asia. It's also a lot easier to translate into korean (sort of chinese) than it is into english. Korea also has a huge light novel market, which means interest in tie in anime games. LNs are translated almost instantly. If you didn't know what hangul was, it would be very hard to tell the difference between a japanese and korean selection. Korea also has a generally shit game marketplace, so developers are more interested in growth opportunities there than decline opportunities in the west.
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>>285756265
>Atelier game on the vita
>not running like shit
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Is anyone else scared to buy digital Vita games because they are going to not work anymore in the close future (5 - 10 years)?

I don't have this issue with steam, but sony just makes me so uneasy. It's a shame because physical is so expensive, especially in europe.
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>>285756532
YOLO
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>>285756532
Nope.
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>>285756532
ps1 games still work
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I am disappointed with my Vita!
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>>285756465

Majority of exclusives seem japanese exclusive.

Nice try.
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