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What the hell is kantai collection?

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What the hell is kantai collection?
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>>285721962
It's basically Touhou but a different genre and more tasteful girls.
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>>>285721962 (OP)
>more tasteful girls.
I think you mean slutty
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>>285722143
Are saying you dont like girls in doll dresses?
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Cute girl RNG simulator
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>>285722143
>It's basically Touhou but a different genre

So nothing like it at all.
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Turn based card game with RNG. And you can marry a boat.
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How do I play if I can't read Japanese though? It doesn't seem like it's 2hu where you can just pick up and play without reading.
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>>285723736
You use KCV, it translates most of the game while providing useful tools.
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>>285723736
There's an english wiki.
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki
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>>285723421
Are they actually boats or just girls wearing magic costumes or something?
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>>285724646

They're personifications of boats. The anime has them "floating" around on water and such.
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>>285723736
Learn nipponese
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>>285724646
Girls who channel the boats spirits
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>>285724646
Alternate world where World war 2 never happened and the girls are just "spirits" of the Boats.
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>>285724646
boat girls. Similar to strike witches.
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enjoy the autism required just to be able to play it. fucking lottery
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KanColle NA release when? Fuck you nips, stop hogging all the boat girls and share with the rest of the world
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Japanese nationalism
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>>285725173

>CGI
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>>285721962
A shitty game you need to be autistic to enjoy.
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IJN WWII boatgirl simulator. It's basically the new 2hu as it only attracts artists and secondaries.

The main difference between the two is that touhou actually requires a certain amount of skill while kancolle only requires you to do your dailies and pray for the RNGkaze to blow your way.
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>>285725394
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>>285725394
I'm waiting for the vita version.

also I can never win the lottery
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>>285725530
region locked
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best girl /v/?
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I'm just glad it replaced 2hu spam on sadpanda. I don't know shit about the game, girl personalities or whatever but it provides me with quality yurishit and porn. Their hats/accessories are even more silly than those of touhoes though.
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kongou desu
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>>285725645

For real? That's rich.

>>285725168

This. It's some heavy handed NIPPON STRONK propaganda.
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Facebook game with cute ship girls.

The designs are the best. Little touches from the original ships on the outfits of the girls is what gets me.
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>>285725804
unconfirmed insider voices
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>>285725662
fuck off hotelkongou best
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Are you ready for Kancolle x Armored Core by from soft? (Kadokawa owns both)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63g7yuno7q4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWxu9j_d2f0
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>>285725662
>love hotel Yamato
Come on man

Explosive Love!
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Something that has been eating up 95% of the doujin market for about a year.

Yes, I'm fucking mad.
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>>285724935
>>285724917
>>285724798

All wrong. It takes place in the future after a mysterious "race" known as abyssals surfaced from the oceans and killed all man on or near it. The abyssals were the spirits of the ships and their crews lost in wars most prominently WWII.

The girls are just regular high school girls but they've as
>>285724854
said, channel the spirits of long lost WWII ships so in body they're little girls but in mind, they're the hulking floating war machines they were. Some of them remember their past as is evidenced by their quotes (for example nagato remembering the flash that was the bombs at bikini atoll)

They're outfitted with the latest in technology and fire power so they go out there an fight as the ship that they think they are with all the fire power and 1/10000ths the size and 1/1000ths the personnel.

It isn't a WWII recreation or whatever, they're fighting to take the seas back from the abyssals. All other countries did the same as well. And the reason why you don't see american ships or british ships or such is because they're defending their country just as the kanmusus are defending japan.
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>>285726294
whatever floats your boat.
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>>285725645
>vita game
>region locked

give me a damn source.
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>>285726294
would you care to explain the boat cannibalism as well?
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>>285725842
>facebook game
>have enter a lottery and luck out to get in
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>>285726423
1920x1080
>watching upscaled shit
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>>285723736
You're not learning how to read Japanese, only what each button does. A button might as well read gibberish like "adkfj", as long as you know what happens when you click on the "adkfj" button, you're good to go.
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>>285726294
Why not just nuke them?

Also
>abyssals take the seas
>implying anything let alone some ugly looking black half mouth creatures can withstand the might of the US Navy now and especially in the future
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>>285726801
>KanColle
>US Navy
WWII never happened and I don't know if the US Navy even exists in the KanColle universe.
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>>285727014
Other nations have their own ship girls but the US won't share unlike the nazis.
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>>285726578
Once you're in it's a Facebook/phone game anon
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>>285721962
The new toho.
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>>285726565
abyssal shit, the real question is how the abyssal and ship spirits even came to be, magic I guess
>>285726801
>let's randomly nuke the ocean yeah that's a good idea!
>US navy
Typical americans.
>>285727014
WWII did happen as evidenced from what the girls say. A lot of it referring to events that happened to them in WWII including some girls who ever say "not again" when they sink.
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>>285726801
US navy got rekt by this.
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>>285726294

>says everyone is wrong
>proceeds to say they're just personified boats

Aside from your fancy explanation, they're just girls who think they're boats.
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>>285726180
>eating 95% of the doujin market
>still no fangames because kadokawa are being greedy jews

>>285726294
So they are basically youkai?

I hate how they don't expand the lore very much. Lores to me are over 40% of the fun in games or TV series.

>>285726801
In the Zuikaku light novel, standard boat technology gets rekt by the abyssal fleet. Survivors get eaten by the abyssal destroyers.
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>>285727153
US shipgirls are too good for you.

>>285727389
Yeah, but there's magic hoodoo involved now.
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>>285727282
I was under the impression that it didn't happen and that their lines are just to represent stuff that happened to their real life counterparts
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>>285727493

>magic

So now we're just aquatic strike witches then.
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>>285727493
that face

really?
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>>285727154
>phone game
>mobage
It can't be a phone game if its not on a phone. There's a Vita game, an arcade game, and the main web-browser game, and with its RNG elements on crafting, enhancing, and farming for ship girls and equipment, its well above the average facebook game in complexity.
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>>285722143
>tasteful
Better artists, sure. But dem girls are skanks.

Kantai Collection is a shitty RNG facebook game equivalent that panders to awful people by having a massive, all female cast of various body styles and quirks with the only male being your own admiral. You get to marry your boatgirls for real money.

Oh, and it references WW2 naval stuff, but without actually being WW2 since they're fighting evil alien monster ship girls instead of countries, but it's really a flimsy excuse to draw cute girls.

Kancolle a shit
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>>285726294
Isn't it different for anime, mangas and game? In one of the mangas the are differently just personified boats, similar to Upotte guns
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>>285727695
0/10
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>>285721962
The biggest revolution in oriental two-dimensional pornography since 2hos that's what it is
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Shitty browser game with sexy dressed 2D girls who reference national ships.
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>>285727435
>Survivors get eaten by the abyssal destroyers.

pretty brutal
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Musashi lewds
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>>285727695
>Better artists, sure.
Except Yadokari. He's almost ZUN-tier, but at least decent at coloring.

>>285727674
Hell, I'm pretty sure you get banned if you play on a phone.
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>>285721962
P2W RNG game with slutty girls.
2hu secondaries jumped ship when they heard about it so kankolle's fanbase consist only of secondaries. Yes, is that bad.
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>>285727435
>, standard boat technology gets rekt by the abyssal fleet
How the fuck? What explains how little girls outfitted with 50 year technology can fight them toe to toe then?
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>>285727916
What was 2013's?
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>>285723736
You don't need to understand anything to play. All you do in this game is wait and click on a compass, and then wait and click on the compass some more.
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>>285727946
>that breach
>that haul

stahp it.
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>>285727946
>>285728128

You can even see her entire valve
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>>285727435
Yeah, "eaten"
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>>285721962
Flavor of the year game for weeaboos, emphasizing japanese naval history.

If you're american and play this shit, you're pantsu on head retarded. Even more if you only started playing because it got an anime.
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>>285728075
Abyssal's are faster then regular ships and probably destroyed any long range missiles easily and forced the ships to fight toe-toe at close range. The ship-girls are just our version of the abyssal's.

also magic and fairies
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>>285726294
Why do the Abyssal ships all use equipment used by American ships? Why do some carriers launch aircrafts literally called Hellcats? Why are all the in-game sorties based on historical engagements between the US Navy and the IJN?
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>>285728075
I said magic hoodoo

>>285728219
>>285727946
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>>285728398
abyssals are ships lost in the war. Lady Lex was sunk at coral sea and she carried hellcats.

There's other in game sorties based on kanmusus vs old sunken IJN ships like BB hime who is Musashi.
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>>285727806
>implying he isn't right
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>>285727435
>Survivors get eaten by the abyssal destroyers.
http://exhentai.org/g/735982/d0c1cdc253/
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A game most people won't play because they actively block regions outside nipland.
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>>285721962
Gay community
Gay game
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I just know about this bitch.
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>>285728426
Why does she have cat ears?
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>>285728318
>Flavor of the year
That's what Touhoufags have been saying for 2 years now.
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>tfw no translation for Red Saber playing Kancolle
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>>285728426
dem docking clamps
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>>285728921
Those are actually wolf ears, trust me I'm an expert.
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>>285728924
>only 2 years
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>>285728758
http://exhentai.org/g/789473/4477c969b6/
I don't even play the games nor watch the anime but dammit do I wanna fuck Airport-Hime
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>>285728762
Just like PSO2
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>>285728758
nice
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>>285728925
She plays like shit, renames the first fleet Imperial Roman Navy, likes KTKM-sama, and blows all of Casko's resources on LSC.
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>Weeaboo pandering trash
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>>285728589
>BB hime who is Musashi
Where the hell are you getting this from? She looks nothing like Musashi, and she carries 16 inch cannons, which were used by American battleships.
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>>285727338
Takao a best!
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Kancolle is a shitty game with shitty girls aside 4 or 5 which most of are Abyssals.

But at least the doujin are good.
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>>285722143
Vita when?
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Goddamn how did this stupid garbage become so popular? Fucking Japan and their mobile and shitty web games.
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>>285729616
Winter 2033
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>>285728758
>>285729075
>>285729204
>>285729541
I can't be the only person who likes this series but doesn't care about the porn.

>>285729616
last I heard May.
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A shit game which utilizes animu girls to sell itself to otaku.
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>>285726294
>The girls are just regular high school girls,
>channel the spirits of long lost WWII ships
> so in body they're little girls but in mind, they're the hulking floating war machines they were
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>>285729656
Otaku stick to anything new that has waifus
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>>285729541
>Like all the Abyssals
>Can never play as an Abyssal Admiral
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>>285729794
Is this your first time hearing about anime?
Because that premise isn't even that original
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>>285729282
I could have swore I read somewhere one of the abyssals were sunken japanese ships.
>>285729794
Japan.
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>>285721962
The best browser "game" ever made.
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>>285726053
>all that skin cancer
Ugh
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You guys shouldn't post pictures of the girls without naming them to look for their porn.
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>>285730054
KONGO DESS
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>>285729917
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Browser game with waifus that's only good for the porn.
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How to strike fear in the hearts of every ship girl.
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>>285730236
And most of the porn misses the point

>girls with ridiculously sexy costumes
>90% of the porn puts them in schoogirl outfits, completely naked, or in slutty bikinis
>almost no clothed sex
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>>285721962
Touhou 2.0:
- I can't believe it's not Touhou.
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Yes the girls are cute and all but I still prefer the actual ships.
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>>285731096
>shouting UCHUU SENKAN YAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO every match
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Planes > tanks > submarines > dogshit > boats
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>>285731096
How's that game btw ?
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>>285731096
Wait, has this already been released?
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Boatfags, how is Navy Field 2? It just got released on steam

I understand it has no cute girls, but please try to answer
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>>285730592
You are just dumb.

There was already one random doujin posted where Midway hime gets fucked while wearing her dress.

Even to the point of her dress being used as a condom.
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>>285725662
+1
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>>285731508
>>285731096
World of Warships is fucking garbage. If you want some fun, play Battlestations Pacific.
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>>285731426
NICE LUFTWAFFE BRO

WOULD BE A SHAME IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THEM
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>>285731574
I said "most" of them
And I'm not anyone to dump anything, I can find them on my own. Just complaining about the disappoinment of finding a good artist who then just draws the ship girls as generic anime girls without their clothes
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>>285731426
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>>285721962
It's like touhou except with the goal to empty out sad nerd wallets instead.
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>>285732195
Game doesn't make much money, its not a mobage P2W goal. Kadokawa/DMM make money because figurines sell by the shittons to players who want to waifu their fleet girls.
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>>285732195
So it still has a good soundtrack ?
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>>285731426
Mah nigga. Planes master race
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>>285731883
THAT'S A NICE NAVY AND SUPPLY LINES YOU GOT THERE

WOULD BE A SHAME IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THEM
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The KanColle hype is subsiding anyway.

We don't get as much doujin as previously while Touhou is still relatively going strong.
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I thought this was just another weebshit game, and then I saw the Kongou doujins

my dick still hurts
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>>285732471
>kancolle hype is subsiding
>literally just overtook 2hu as comiket king
>anime airing RIGHT NOW
>new lotteries of players filled every couple days

m8...
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>>285732736
>I thought this was just another weebshit game
But it is.
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>>285732796
It's biased to say there's an anime because imagine the reception if there was a touhou aniime.
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>>285732796
It is subsiding considering the doujin released at the last two comikets are so much less then they were before.

>Using anime as an argument.
If zun would have allowed an anime the Touhou fanbase would have exploded even harder.
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>>285732195
>main game
>making bank
It does decent but its centric around figurines, merchandise, manga, LNs, and other stuff that players splurge on.

If you limit your spending to stuff like expanding fleet slots, its nothing compared to actual mobages so no, Kadokawa doesn't work the way you think it does with Kancolle to make bank. Its all those glorious figurines of figmas and nenodorids that do.

>>285732471
How is it subsidizing or dying down when its grown literally three fold in doujins and fanart in just under a year and half's time?

Between C85 to C87, we have jusit about 300k fanart just about and over 2000 doujin circles dedicated to it while the game has hit over 3 million players.
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>>285732984
I agree, but my point was that the porn is out of this world

I haven't even played it lmao
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It's a shame the abyssals have the best designs
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>>285726053
Must buy/10
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>>285733191
This is the reason why I could never get into KanColle. I can't waifu best girls.
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>>285731721
>recommending pacific
>not midway

get out
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>>285733108
Nigga Touhou already has a high quality fan anime.
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>>285733708
>midway
>the one with inferior game play, less interesting or written campaigns and combat missions, weaker air units and less fun then pacific
Kill yourself
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>>285733735
>fan
Yeah fan anime you autist and it doesn't go longer than an episode. Stop using it as an argument comparing it to an officially sponsored anime.

The implications of an official anime are entirely different. I need to give it to zun to not sell out, I guess he's happy as long as he has booze.
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>>285733708
>ever recommending Midway over Pacific
Get the fuck out.
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>>285733904
>inferior gameplay

Pacific made everything for babies even auto leading ship targets for you and pointing out weakpoints. Then the multiplayer is just pump out units until you lose when Midways was "You lost a ship you're fucked" and required more strategy then just popping out units.
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>>285733929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w337ij3wtXA
Theyre working on a fifth, and that's some pretty high quality animation too
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>>285732796
Just look at google trend and you'll see that Kancolle won't last.

Yes it's at its peak right now because the anime is airing. Anything similar broadcast on TV nationwide in Japan will trend anyway. Just before the anime it was declining sharply.

The amount of KC doujins released at last Comiket was still lower than the one before. Yes Touhou declined as well and KC overtook Touhou, but the only fact that KC wasn't on the rise at C87 is concerning.

Also consider that KC is receiving millions in Marketing money from jewdokawa and DMM. Yes I can make any turd trend if you give me a marketing budget like that. KC had collabo with big companies/brands even in 2013 already like Family Mart.

Meanwhile Touhou is declining really slowly and is rather steady despite being nearly TWO DECADE old and made by a single guy.
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SECONDARIES FUCK OFF
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>>285734258
>no control over land bases or installations
>no direct control over your carriers or flight groups
>talks about babying when can't even do half the stuff in Midway that you can do in Pacific
You are literally fucking retarded, there is no auto-leading since almost everyone complained about issues with torpedo accuracy and shelling from mid-range. And to top if off the alternative IJN wins campaign is more fun then just playing as the USN in Midway.

Stop posting.
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>>285734545
No, you fuck off. This shit is only good for fapping
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I'd play kancolle just to see how it is, but it won't let me play cuz not in nippon
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>>285734679
>no control over land bases or installations

You have control of airfields, bases weren't the primary concern of most missions.

>no direct control over your carriers or flight groups

So you never played the game?

>there is no auto-leading since almost everyone complained about issues with torpedo accuracy and shelling from mid-range.

I browsed the official forums when pacific came out everyone hated it
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>>285734929
>Play lottery and get in
>Use VPN to play the game
Damn that was hard
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>>285721962

Japanese revisionist propaganda
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How to save Nintendo:

Kancolle + amiibo
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Where's the navel warfare? You said there would be navel warfare.
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>>285735156
>I browsed the official forums when pacific came out everyone hated it.
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A plot to convert otaku into ultranationalists
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>>285727674
There's a Vita game?
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>>285735512
Most people agreed the auto aiming was awful, it took out any skill or difficulty required to aim.
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>>285735156
>>285735814
They are in Pacific when you can play as the IJN and the main campaign is island conquests by taking enemy airfields, bases, artillery posts, and docking/harbors.

>So you never played the game?
It sounds more like you never played Pacific. Considering the main complainments and the quite vocal ones on their forums was how arcadey and unrealistic Midway was despite billing itself as a real-time naval combat simulator in terms of damage, asthetics, physics, and everything else.
>I browswed the official forums when pacific came out everyone hated it.
Funny, because I was there when I preordered Pacific and most people were complaining about the lack of babying in multiplayer when it came to firing accuracy and the complexity of submarine combat despite the improvement made over how awful it was in Midway.

So in short, you are full of shit.

>>285735624
Yes, with Akizuki as the main starter.
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Why are there no American ships?
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>>285735814
>auto-aiming
>Pacific
Kind of hilarious you keep claiming this when it only leads to where you "SHOULD" shoot and not holding your hand while sustained barrages actually increase your chances of making critical or even glancing strikes and the game doesn't tell you have to reduce speed to get more accurate fire on other vessels.

But go ahead, keep claiming otherwise.
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>>285736242
*actually increases your chances of making critical or even glancing strikes MISS
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>>285736060
Head dev already said Royal Navy and USN ships will be coming to Kancolle next summer or fall
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>>285736645
Everyone knows American ships will be best girls by default. We all know how japan draws american and british girls.
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>>285736060
Japanese nationalism and envy over superior constructs.
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>>285725662
>having a boatfu that is a logistical nightmare just to keep afloat

Why even bother?
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>>285735982
>They are in Pacific when you can play as the IJN and the main campaign is island conquests by taking enemy airfields, bases, artillery posts, and docking/harbors.

Yes I fucking know that, they weren't a concern in midway due to it having mostly major sea battles up to midway.

>
It sounds more like you never played Pacific. Considering the main complainments and the quite vocal ones on their forums was how arcadey and unrealistic Midway was despite billing itself as a real-time naval combat simulator in terms of damage, asthetics, physics, and everything else.

Which is ironic given that pacific went full arcade and made the gameplay worse.

>Funny, because I was there when I preordered Pacific and most people were complaining about the lack of babying in multiplayer when it came to firing accuracy and the complexity of submarine combat despite the improvement made over how awful it was in Midway.


how the fuck was submarine battles complex? it was 4 depths each with it's own use and the strategy to stay hidden along with launching torpedo's undetected was easy to do but hard to master

>>285736242
The aiming was just put your cursor over the ship and 90 percent of rounds will hit, it made destroyers incredibly fragile and useless besides submarine detection, the auto-aim was dead accurate unless you were doing evasive manuevers.
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>>285736743
Eh not really. If anything, the game is wanking the shit out of Kriegsmarine/German fleet girls. Yorktown, Enterprise, Johnston, Iowa, South Dakota, and Washington are the most likely to be introduced when American fleet girls show up.
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>>285736743
Blonde & big tits?
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>>285730394
Not since we got Akizuki.
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>>285737375
And brown
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>>285735308
>chink shit
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>>285737307
Its sounds more like your making shit up ad naseum. You put your cursor or marker over an enemy ship, it will automatically attempt full barrages and volleys while missing every shot even at close range.

The arcadey bullshit is Midway, not Pacific. The shots, ranges, accuracy, and auto-aiming was most prevalent in the former, not the latter and I'm getting more and more convinced you never actually played Pacific.

>majority of players on their forums and gamefaq message boards talk about how much better air combat is with planes and better balancing between American and Japanese fighters
>overwhelmingly positive consensus on how destroyers are viable threats to larger capital ships like heavy cruisers and battleships or carriers with retooling of torpedoes
>game balances torpedo OPness with making accuracy an issue of angle, speed, drift, and depth when fired
>submarine combat drastically retooled in general

Nah, Pacific shits on Midway in every way possible and your still wrong about the BS with auto-aiming.
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>>285736645
>Canadian ship girls are kancolle-s KS

Y-yay... I guess
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The game is compete irredeemable shit but the girls are 10/10, every single one is either wife or daughteru material. Destroyers keep giving me heart attacks.
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>>285737846
>Canada
No mention of Canada ever, specifically said British, American, and German in his magazine interview but I guess you can hope against hope?
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>>285737974
I'm saying it's what it would probably be like if they were introduced. Our navy is almost literally held together with duct tape
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>>285737307
Except Midway is an arcade navy combat game. There is no balance to it, and auto-aiming is a claim you have to stop fucking making. The game tells you where to aim manually; engines, magazines, and fuel. The game then forces you if left alone to auto-fire with mass attacks that will miss and do only splash or light damage even with heavier class warships against lighter ones.

Meanwhile Midway has absolutely no penalties with range or distance when it comes to accuracy or damage output.
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>>285727282
>abyssal shit, the real question is how the abyssal and ship spirits even came to be, magic I guess
That doesn't explain how you can cannibalize ships for parts.
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>>285737902
It's basically a mobage, so of course it's going to suck.
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>>285721962
http://pastebin.com/AiGEeTPL
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>>285738976
>being retarded
Do you even know what a mobage is? Its a web-browser game on PC, not on a smart phone. Secondly there's no P2W mechanics in it, unlike games like Rage of Bahamut.
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>>285721962
NOOOOOOOOO dont let the /v/-tards near kancolle
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>>285738976
>mobage
Mobage can only be a phone game.
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>>285739109
>Basically
Learn to read, faggot.
The game structure is also similar to mobages in more ways than one.
Additionally, not all mobages are p2w. VC didn't become P2W until 1.6 years after launch.
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>>285738179
>mfw buying broken submarines

fucking Canada there is a reason why Britain was selling that shit.
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>>285739340
You didn't say structured like a mobage, you said verbatim, "It's basically a mobage". Which it is not. Now kill yourself.
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It's the newest MLP or 2hu of Japan meaning that like the others, it's complete shit except for when they're depicted as Giant battlecruiser-sized girls.

Then my dick is happy.
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>>285739340
>>285739514
who the fuck cares? the game sucks anyway
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>weebfaggotry
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Only care for the porn.
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>>285721962
Some anti american propaganda
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>>285721962
i dont know, but i keep fapping to this girl
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>>285739830
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21916101
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>>285739830
>girl
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I have a fetish for ships pissing themselves.
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>>285739514
>Basically

>used to indicate that a statement summarizes the most important aspects, or gives a roughly accurate account, of a more complex situation.
>or gives a roughly accurate account, of a more complex situation.

Do you not know what that means? Or is English not your first language?
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>>285732417
THAT'S A NICE SUBMARINE YOU GOT THERE

WOULD BE A SHAME IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO IT
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>>285740161
a best
eyepatch boat 2nd best
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>>285723719
If you drop an ice cream cone down there just use a napkin you dangus, now they're all sweaty and red from having to stretch out and sit down for so long.
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>>285740350
Missing your pic?
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>>285740243
>all that oil leak
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>>285740350
forgot pic
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>>285733736
I want to fuck that thing
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>>285725842
>>285727154
>>285738976
>calls a DMM game a Facebook game
>calls a game where you literally get banned if you play on a phone, a phone game

>>285727695
First ring is free.

>>285740289
>roughly accurate
Yeah, it wasn't accurate at all. It's like saying platypi aren't mammals because they lay eggs.
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Only good ship is the fat ship.
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>>285740709
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>>285740680
It is a Facebook game tho. Mindless grind.
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>>285739830
Shit taste/10
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>>285739830
her desing is pure sexyness
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>>285740778
You don't grind in games like Candy Crush, last I checked.
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Watched 1 episode of the show. How do people keep up with these type of shows, it was so dumb.
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The only thing I know about Kantai Collection is that Myoukou is the best.
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>>285725517
>Based KTKM
>Not Super KTKM-sama
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>>285741167
Nobody actually likes the anime.
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I am liking the early game so far. Does it have a proper endgame?
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>>285730000
Quads confirm
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>>285740680
>Yeah, it wasn't accurate at all.

>Game revolving around collecting cards/characters/ships/whatever
>Largely automated combat with minimal micromanagement
>Ability to have different decks/parties/fleets
>Advance through maps/levels to grind resources/items
>Resource and upkeep system for ships/units/cards
>Generic quests
>Evolving/Amalgamating/Feeding
>Premium bonuses for real money
>etc. etc.

No, nothing like a mobage at all!
Delusional retard.
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>>285740910
how about the trillion CoC clones
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Daily reminder that murakumo is the only reedemable girl and that these sluts were sunk.

Iowa-chan > Yamato
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>>285740680
Man, why are you getting so defensive over your shipgorls. I play too but I don't pretend that it is any kind of deep
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Kantai Collection is shit, the game couldn't be more uneventful, requires tons of grinding with little to no space for actual strategy or tactics.
Almost everything is RNG-based, most of the girls are generic with retarded designs and have even less personality than the 2hus.
The girls that aren't shit are pretty good though, and the abyssals are fucking beautiful but you can only kill them so fuck this trash of a game.
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Protip for everyone just starting out in the game:

BB > CV
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>>285741296
Mobage actually make up the minority of that kind of game. Try harder.
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>>285741624
But that doesn't make sense.
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>>285741245
>mfw everyone keeps complaining about the lack of screentime shimakaze has.
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>>285741793
I know it doesn't in real life however it's true in the game.
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>>285741359
That doesn't make KanColle a Facebook game.

>>285741415
Nah, I know it's a shit game. It's just that some people just have too many misconceptions about the game.
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>>285739647
>not gonig to the dark side

How long will it take you?
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>>285741691
>>285741974
Fuck off back to you mobage shit.
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>>285730000
>the doujins have better art than the main game
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>>285741167
It gets better but it's still mostly for fans.
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>>285742235
I don't play any mobage.
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>>285741691
You know full well what meaning of mobage (freemium) I'm referring to especially when I'm talking about a kind of game like kancolle, which is why you tried to claim it's not a mobage.

What's wrong? Afraid your game might be demeaned because it follows a shittier mobile model?
Back pedal harder, faggot.
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>>285741624
>>285741793

Carriers
>Fat AND flat
>Cowards
>Weak, rely on others
>Poor C&C
>Shit as flagships
>Gluttonous

Battleships
>Elegant and big in all the right places
>Powerful
>Defend their friends
>Excellent flagships and command centers
>Efficient

It's accurate. Fuck carriers.
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>>285721962
farmville with ship girls
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>>285742336
Says the guy who thinks "mobage = freemium game"? Top kek.
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>>285741793
It does when you know that carriers get within gun ranges of enemies in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uIt_GnPYMI
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>>285742370
I like your style.
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>>285742303
No, you play shit.
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Its Japanese Farmville.
But, the moms who treat Kancolle like farmville have offline meetups where the cosplay as their favorite ships and dress up their kids
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it plays out pretty much like a mobage even if it isn't actually for phones

get over it
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>>285741167
the first episode was pretty shitty. It gets slightly better but only slightly.
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>>285742589
That I freely admit.
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>>285742528
Oh shit you are delusional.
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>>285742528
>Says the guy who thinks "mobage = freemium game"? Top kek.
>kek

Anyways, that's not the point I'm making. Reread my post and try again!
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>>285742792
>best CV
moar like best girl, nite
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>>285742687
Its like calling a Mario game a Playstation game because they are both videogames.

Quick being a grandpa and getting mad because you misused a simple term.
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Haven't played it in like a month, I am level 35. I don't really have time playing and I don't really feel like continuing until I get my favorite gir, rng isn't very nice to me. People have issues with the lottery? I got in on my first try.
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>>285743021
>Shoukaku
http://exhentai.org/g/739545/d9636876ed/
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>>285742892
>>285742979
That's what you basically said.
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>>285721962
It looks boring as fuck but the female villains are kinda cute.
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>>285742996
it's like calling a mario clone a mario game because they're both platformers where you collect coins and break boxes with your head
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>>285741974
So what was the point about defending a game you admit is shit?

Why waste everyone's time doing that?

Could you at least be out there being productive and defending actual good games?
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>>285726587
It isn't upscaled you cretin.
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>>285743389
I'd dock with Nagato
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>>285743137
>tfw this is the best Shoukaku doujin
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>Faggots actually defending this shovelware shit

Holy crap can /v/ get any more terrible?
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>>285722143
different question. What is Touhou?
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>>285743685
/v/ doesn't even like it, most of those defending it are from other boards.
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>>285742370
>Fuck carriers.

I would if could
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>>285743191
But it wasn't. He said it was like a mobage, which I'm assuming is

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobage
>Some of their popular titles are "Blood Brothers", "Defender of Texel" or "D.O.T.", "Rage of Bahamut", and "Marvel War of Heroes".

The only way you can be right in this argument is if you adhere to a strict definition that mobage = all mobile gaming, which is honestly a really silly definition.
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>>285744041
You goin full retard bro
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>>285743685
>/v/
It's one /a/utistic retard, don't lump us in with him. I'm just here for the /e/ content.
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>>285744041
Mobage is just short in Japanese for "mobile game."

The Japanese variety tend to be all remarkably similar and all look like >>285741296.
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>>285723421
and actually get a physical wedding band, to boot
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>>285744041
"Basically" is a much stronger word than "like". I wouldn't say something is warm when it's boiling hot.

>mobage = all mobile gaming
That is the correct definition, what are you going on about?
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>>285742528
Not >>285742336 but most of them are anyway. Kancolle is no exception it works exactly the same way.

Granted it's not as P2W like shit like Pazudora (PAY TO FREE REVIVE) but still, almost all players are spending money on Kancolle at least for getting two extra repair docks, and increasing inventory size.

And you are forced to pay for them, you cannot get free MTX currency.

Check your PvP opponents and tell me how many inventory slots players have in average. Often 160~180. That's ¥6,000~¥8,000 spent per user. Add 2 extra docks that almost everyone has, you're looking at every user spending 10K in average and I'm not factoring the ¥700 needed to marry shipfu. That's an awfully high ARPU for such a game.

Yes you can't have whales spending $1,000 a month like on PAD or Clash of Clan (we all know that buying resources is utterly useless).

Still the business model of KanColle is just a slight improvement of a shitty model. It's still shitty in the end. And don't tell me that some players never spent money on it. Find me Lv100+ TTK with 2 docks / 100 inventory slots and only one girl wed. And even if there are few players that do not spend money, all those players who marry automatically all ships at level 99 counterbalances that. It's a fucking ¥700 PER SHIP.

At least the amount you can spend is finite I guess, slight improvement over other freemium garbage.
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>>285743778
Touhou is a doujin danmaku/bullet hell shooting series that occasionally has fighting games thrown into the mix. It takes place in a fictional world, Gensokyo, where humans and youkai (demons) more-or-less live in harmony. Most of the games involve the Shrine Maiden, Hakurei Reimu, and a Magician, Marisa Kirisame, dealing with rowdy youkai or stupid humans doing stupid shit.

Due to the nature of the series (ZUN's absolute refusal to go commercial), the fanbase generates content ranging from manga to anime to full-blown quality fangames. They also generate mountains of buckets of porno, shit's unreal.
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>>285743685
The guys defending it are faggots from /a/. They were actually getting buttmad at this thread in the shitcolle thread in /a/
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>>285744297
Wait, so mobage in the west = a company, but mobage in Japan = mobile gaming?
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>>285744382
It's not the correct definition. Fuck Yahoo Japan "Mobage" games offering is exactly like DMM ones.

Even if they're played in a browser and do not have a mobile version (iOS/Android), they're still called MOBAGE in Japan.

Check milihime, it's a mobage, it's literally KanColle with tanks...
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>>285744041
It is mobile gaming but yeah Kancolle is not a mobage since it is to be played on browser rather than as mobile apps.
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>>285743191
And I stand by it. Like >>285744297 says, most of the top mobages are very similar and I was referring to them when I said Kancolle follows their model.

If you really want me to specific, I can name drop games for you but my point remains the same: Kancolle is basically like those freemium mobile games.
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>>285744580
No different than 2hufuckers from /jp/ that hate the game for the silliest reason.
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>>285722143

>tasteful

>the main character is a 12 year old in a thong

no.
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>>285744659
It's an abbreviation. Ge is short for "game" pronounced the Japanese way, so people use terms like "eroge" for erotic games and "kusoge" for shit games. No guesses what kuso means.

>>285744382
It's a technical contraction but honestly the vast majority of shitware mobage Japanese people are playing are of the >>285741296 variety.

>>285744398
That's not even pay to win so much as it's pay to collect the cards you like. There's no need to keep the 80 or so terrible destroyers you don't care about.
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>>285744969
>animeonlyfags
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I want to fuck Atago and Takao´s uniforms. They are so goddamn beautiful.
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>>285745075
we call those secondaries
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>>285744969
Shimakaze is actually 73.

Granny Kongou is 103.
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>>285744969
>main character
You can still see her panties
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>>285745075
Working hard IRC fags?
>>285745208
Sluts of the Kantai
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>check /wotg/
>full of kancollefags
It is like a virus.
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>>285745636
>Surprise a game with official Girls und Panzer stuff is full of weeaboos
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>USAF

http://senchro.jp/pixies/
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>tfw the Musashi has finally been found
>She can finally RIP in pieces with Yamato.
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>>285744398
Not all freemium games are mobage. A large number of PC MMORPGs from Korea and China are freemium, for example.

>>285744659
Pretty much.

>>285744749
Learn some Japanese first and then come back.
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>>285732340
also expensive rings and a marriage certificate. they've got 'waifu industy' as a business model
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>>285745793
Unless the fucking chinks loot her
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>>285744856
No need. I get your point.
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>>285744750
>>285745834
http://yahoo-mbga.jp/

Yeah I wonder what all these games are. I wonder why they're under y! mobage since they can only played in a browser for the vast majority of them.

>>285745016
>There's no need to keep the 80 or so terrible destroyers you don't care about.
Yeah right, again find me level 100+ TTK with 100 ships only and 2 docks.

You just fucking can't. You are forced to pay if you want to progress decently. No one is paying to "collect" girls, who the fuck cares about collecting shit. It may be called KanColle most of players just want to progress, grind and keep on progressing. You quickly come to a point where you can't collect shit anymore anyway besides the few ships added once in a while. This is like Gen 1 pokemon after you played it for 2 years except it got small incremental updates.

Yes it's not directly P2W like most of freemium shit, still the game business model is extremely good at forcing players to spend money.
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>>285745935
They won't. Musashi is 1 km underwater and well within the Sibuyan Sea. The Prince of Wales which was looted by chinks is only 68 m underwater.
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>>285744750
>It is mobile gaming but yeah Kancolle is not a mobage since it is to be played on browser rather than as mobile apps.
To be fair, certain browser games are actually officially labelled as mobages. I don't know if Kancolle is, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was called that anyways.
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>>285746143
I can't even access that site without a phone.

>find me level 100+ TTK with 100 ships only and 2 docks
Most people who get to that point are the kind of people
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>>285746143
>Yeah right, again find me level 100+ TTK with 100 ships only and 2 docks.
That's because most people who manage to sink thousands of hours into this game don't mind spending some money on it. Like, you could have spent that five hundred hours earning ten thousand dollars instead.

>Yeah right, again find me level 100+ TTK with 100 ships only and 2 docks.
That's because you have to be a fucking obsessive to be level 100, in which case you're going to pay money. I've been playing for two and a half years casually and I'm still level 99 (the only map I'm not able to clear is 5-5 but that's honestly just bonus shit for super-grinding autistic faggots).
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>>285746537
the kind of people who would want to collect them all in the first place*
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>>285744856
Nah, I played bunch of mobage and I can tell you that Kancolle is really different. Sure there are bunch of them like Kancolle but those pretty much came after Kancolle success i.e Touken Ranbu, Shirohime Project, Vanishing Days and bunch more.

And this is the only game that I know where if your girls sunk, the equipments on the girl and the girls are lost forever.
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>>285745295
>Sluts of the Kantai

Best bodies too
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>>285746556
second quote should be
>You are forced to pay if you want to progress decently.
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>>285746537
>I can't even access that site without a phone.
Not him, but...?
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>>285746746
Nah, best body is Hamakaze
But Atagos are high in the rankings
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>>285744398
If you're stupid and don't buy points when there is a sale.
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>>285746665
How is it very different? The basic structure and collection mechanics have all been done before, sometimes better and sometimes worse.

Please, explain.
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>>285746746
>Best bodies too
nah, even granny Kongou and Kaga looks better than this abomination
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>>285746451
It depends on the original platform they were supposed to be played, Take for example Granblue Fantasy, its a mobage even if the devs released the app to played on personal computers or browser.
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>>285746746
>chromatic aberration
Why?
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>>285746929
That's a different page. The red text at the top of the screen says "you can't download mobile games in the browser so you can't play."

>>285747049
It's got significantly more mechanics than most mobage even if the underlying card collection and combat models are basically the same.
>>
Touhou > Kancolle
Touhou doesn't come with a shitty faceless self insert to ruin all the doujins and the series has actual good gameplay
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>>285747064
oh wow
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>>285746537
It works perfectly fine on any browser (Chrome/Firefox and even IE...)


>>285746556
>I've been playing for two and a half years casually and I'm still level 99 (the only map I'm not able to clear is 5-5 but that's honestly just bonus shit for super-grinding autistic faggots).

In that case you could have been as well playing PAD and be far without spending a dime. Using the argument "I barely play and I'm fine with super slow progress" doesn't make a business model suddenly decent.

Yes it may suit YOUR play-style, but you're a minority.

>>285747207
Log on with a Yahoo Japan ID that is linked to a mobage account.
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>>285747207
>It's got significantly more mechanics
Like? Because most mobage are quite unique with their mechanics.
>>
Kongou-san's voice and her design are so great.
Who cant love her?
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I like the abyssal ships better, especially Hoppo.
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I hate KanColle

I also hate mimes

Therefore KanColle is a mime
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>>285747504
>Using the argument "I barely play and I'm fine with super slow progress" doesn't make a business model suddenly decent.
And yet I still managed to hit 5-4 within nine months despite playing like a casual tard. No sub grinding, no 3-2-A farming, none of that shit. When I beat 5-3 I beat it with two Mutsukis in tow. Yeah, if you want to rush through the game you'll really need the two docks ($20) but anything other than the repair space is strictly gratuitous in terms of actually beating the game faster.

>>285747518
>Like? Because most mobage are quite unique with their mechanics.
More numbers, more mechanics. Most mobage I've played are just your team goes at it with the other team and occasionally procs shit until some team is dead. Kancolle goes out of its way to implement a variety of battle mechanics and stages, even if no one is particularly innovative.
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>>285748153
>More numbers, more mechanics.
Like?

>Most mobage I've played are just your team goes at it with the other team and occasionally procs shit until some team is dead.
But you also have mobage like VC and PAD where you can select targets, attack with specific units, and choose when to proc. Then you also have weird shit like AoT that involves 'combos' and 'juggling' with your units in PvE, which is quite unique.

Sounds to me like you just haven't played many mobage, or at least a good variety of them. Kancolle doesn't really strike me as unique at all, so I'll stand by my original argument.
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The only good thing to come out of Kancolle is trap doujins with Shimakaze
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>>285747853
>Therefore KanColle is a mime

Thats actually accurate when talking about most Abyssals
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>>285747049
Permanent lost of units.
Shipbuilding.
No gacha, no gacha tickets, no serial code.
Everyone have a chance of getting the ships released in the game.
No event special units bullshit.
No card plus card evolution, no bonus even if you feed the same units.
Marriage.
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>>285748631
I have to agree, you are a man of great taste.
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>>285748631
Absolute shit taste/10
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>>285748735
>No event special units bullshit.
That sounds like Iona and friends.
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>>285748631
>Shimakaze
>good
>even worse, the trap version
Ewwwww
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>>285748505
I've only ever played PAD, Valkyrie Crusade, and a bunch of shitty anime spinoff mobage, so you probably got me there.

>Like?
Customization of cards through equipment, phase-based combat with different mechanics for each phase, relevant extra numbers besides attack and defense (evasion, accuracy, luck, line of sight, fighter power).

There isn't a proc system which actually takes away a lot of the "uniqueness" but at the end of the day healers and buffers aren't really that exciting.
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>>285748730
I want that abyssal to sit on my face
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WWII Ships A Shit.

Modern shipgirls when?

Kirov-chan will destroy all Abyssals and establish Putin-sama's reign over all the Kanmusus.
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>>285748929
They comes free though and not from gatcha. Also they don't give 3x damage multiplier bonus except for lasers and can still misses.
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>>285748735
>Permadeath
There are ways to avoid this and it's really lenient nowadays anyways.

>Everyone have a chance of getting the ships released in the game.
Not unique to Kancolle.

>No card plus card evolution, no bonus even if you feed the same units.
Not unique to Kancolle.

>Marriage
Not disputing this, but it's a shitty mechanic.
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>>285748767
>trapfag
>Good taste
>>285747235
Touhou might not be the best bullet hell game but at least is fun to play, shitcolle is fucking unbearable. I can't believe that people actually enjoy that crap
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>>285749020
>Customization of cards through equipment, phase-based combat with different mechanics for each phase, relevant extra numbers besides attack and defense (evasion, accuracy, luck, line of sight, fighter power).
None of these are unique to Kancolle - quite a few com2us games use them in one capacity or another.

>but at the end of the day healers and buffers aren't really that exciting.
You've played VC, right? It's skill pool has grown quite a bit - it's not just buffs and debuffs anymore.
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>>285747749
Hoppou is adorable, it's a shame that you can't save the abyssal ships or at least interact with them in some peaceful way.
Some of them even have really good designs unlike the good girls.
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I fucking hate Kancolle flooding my sadpandas with vanilla, generic garbage, but at least the better artists can still make it fappable.
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>>285749540
>None of these are unique to Kancolle - quite a few com2us games use them in one capacity or another.
Then they're probably decent games.

>You've played VC, right? It's skill pool has grown quite a bit - it's not just buffs and debuffs anymore.
The last time I played was like two years ago, it really just wasn't my thing.

Honestly the only thing keeping me in Kancolle is the fact that it's voiced, that and secondary work. I usually hate these kinds of games.
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>>285749274
People still sink their ships regardless.

>Not unique to Kancolle.
Free? Hoarding crystals and tickets does not count.

Examples would really help though and upgrades don't increase levels just weapon damage stat and armor not other extra stats except for luck.
>>
>>285749981
They're really shitty games actually, but my point is that I'd still consider Kancolle similar to a mobage - it's not radically different.

>>285750145
I just don't feel permadeath really shakes things up that much, although I'll still admit it is new (I think).

>Examples
VC for about 2 years you could get any card a paying player can and without hoarding premium currency either.

Fantasica doesn't have the typical evolving system seen in most mobages.
>>
Is it bad that I don't play the game and only fap to girls?
>>
GET OUT SHIPSLUTS
GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT
MUKYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>285750547
The touhou and captain falcon fanbase does the same thing so no.
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>>285750547
Nope.
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>>285750547
As long as you don't act retarded, no.
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>>285750692
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>>285750767
Foobookee in the anime is really a reaction imagen machine, isn't she?
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>>285750692
>no Pepe edit

If you're going to make a memepost, at least go all the way and not half-ass it like that.
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>>285750692
>MUKYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
FUKYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>
>>285750537
Fantasica is still leveling up like normal or am I missing something here. And the system feeding is a pain in the ass for the game, outside the point but worth mentioning.

VC card game? I know you collect points from skirmishes and quest but getting every units released? Really? So, I get the chance to get those singer characters now free without waiting for special gacha to pop up? I haven't been playing that game for a while since it keeps crashing on my phone.

Is this Valkyria Crusade or Valkyria Chronicles you are talking about? Because I don't remember having the same experience with latter. There's also guild donation cards to consider.
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>>285751297
she's the main character so she gets a lot of screentime.
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>>285751586
There's no evolution in Fantasica and no same card bonuses, which is what you claimed is unique to Kancolle.

>VC
You have a chance of getting every SR in the game from subdue chests. Obviously not anymore with the introduction of GUR, but like I said it was that way for about a year (2 years is wrong, sorry).

>Is this Valkyria Crusade or Valkyria Chronicles you are talking about?
Chronicles is a PS3/PC game, not a mobage...
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>>285751990
>Chronicles is a PS3/PC game
There is this as well.

http://valkyria.wikia.com/wiki/Valkyria_Chronicles_Duel
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>>285751883
>Fubuki Class collides with Kongo Class
>barely any damage to either

Halifax Disaster anyone?
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>>285751990
Valkyria Chronicles does have a mobage. It's really sad to see how the franchise turned out into this.
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>>285752201
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>>285752830
I wasn't aware it even existed, but to be fair I didn't say VCD.

>It's really sad to see how the franchise turned out into this.
Pretty much every big franchise in Japan will have a corresponding mobage/card game.
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>>285752201
>Ending its service on March 12 2015

Good riddance.
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I like the anime, its comfy, though I fear its gonna get edgy soon. and that Poi remodel was great
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>>285753749
It's way too far in to become edgy, people thought that might happen when Kisaragi ate it but instead everyone forgot about her.

Still holding out for her return in Episode 12 leading an entire Abyssal task force as a destroyer princess.
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>>285721962
A shitty nongame that spawned lots and lots of really good shota doujins.
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>>285754025
Nearly every anime gets sponsored by Pizza Hut at some point.
>>
>>285753946
Nah, they hyped Wo too much for her not to be the final woss
>>
Wo best girl
>>
>>285755963
Re is better
Excellent taste nonetheless
>>
Actual Vita gameplay, showing off its true graphical capabilities.
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>>285721962

Facebook game with naval stuff
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>>285756521
this is better animated than the anime, how the fuck..
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>>285756521
>>285756679
Some more Vita gloriousness.
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>>285756521
Who is this qt patootie?
>>
>>285756521
who is this reef devil?
>>
>>285756521
Is she using her dick as a flight deck?
>>
Why does japan always attach waifus to the shittiest fucking games and people eat that shit up?
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>>285757035
>>285757128
A flat-decked carrier. Note the lack of a superstructure on her upper hull.

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Ryuujou
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>>285757229
Japan attaches waifus to everything.
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>>285756521
day 1 import
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>>285757035
>>285757128
A very flat carrier.
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>ctrl+f
>no akatsuki
you all have shit taste
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>>285757229
They have been doing it since WW2.
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Some of the game's "light" aircraft carriers. Their displacements are rather different, though.
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