SMT Thread

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First for my demonfu

I started playing nocturne and the plot makes fuck all sense

I assume it's explained better as you go?

>>285566858

Don't expect too much, really. It's all about the gameplay and atmosphere, the plots are never really great. Where are you right now?

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Who's the best demon and why is it Kinmamon?

>>285566669
Shit taste

I'm noticing that these threads have been popping up a lot lately. Any reason for it? Not that I'm against it since as of lately I've been playing lots of SMT games, but man there have been like a couple dozen threads within the last couple days. Or is it just me?

SMT console game when?

>>285567129
persona 5
:)

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>>285567129
As soon as this gets done.

>>285567129
SMT x Fire Emblem

>>285566858
Nocturne's plot isn't that great.

It's all about the atmosphere.

>>285566858
What don't you get about the plot?
The world blew up because cults and you got a demonbug shoved inside you

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>>285567354
>>285567435
It's cancelled isn't it.... I can feel it

>>285567083
I assumed because Persona 5.

Currently playing through the original SMT, SMTIV, Persona 3 and Persona Q. Just kinda rotating through each one as I feel like it.

Also are instakill attacks useless in SMT1? I fused a Samael but its M Effect stat seems too low to reliably use its two instakill attacks.

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>favorite game
>favorite protag
>best align
>demonfu

can you guys draw a smt character over pic related?

>>285566970
>Where are you right now

I'll give you a hint: early and I stopped playing momentarily out of frustration

Ya can probably guess which boss it is

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>>285566669
I like yours. This is mine

>>285567596
you can use instakills on bosses
>>285567587
I doubt it, Persona 5 took years to get an actuasl trailer to get announced, and so did break record

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>>285567687
>DDS
>Raidou
>Neutral
>Pic Related

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>>285567687
Nocturne
Tatsuya Suou
Neutral
Leanan Sidhe

>>285567732
You are bad at videogames.

>>285567687
DDS
Demi Fiend
Law
Oni

>>285566858
If you're in it for the plot Nocturne is the wrong choice. Play DDS.

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>>285567732

>>285566172
If SMT IV and Strange Journey had switched release dates and platforms then Strange Journey would have been the greatest SMT that would ever be released.

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>>285567732
Ame no uzume, bro.

Also wind magatama if you haven't already.

>>285567687
>NOCK-TURN
>Demee Feend
>Chayohs
>Daante from the debil mai crie serious

>>285567732
Get a Hua Po, level her once or twice until she learns Rakukaja and then spam it durIng the fight.
Don't forget to bring Uzume to negate turns whenever he uses his force attack.
GG no re

>>285567587
Atlus never gives progress updates on any of their games regularly.
At least we know from last year that it's on schedule and development is going as planned.
Still I'm curious, is it SMT gameplay with FE characters and will there be all the demons?

>>285567847
Yes I am

>>285568050
Yeah I think that's the only one I've actually missed so far

Better go back and buy it

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>Chaosfags

>>285568350
I got a Nekomata so that should do the trick as well right?

>>285567732

Most important things for mainline SMT games: Buffs, debuffs, weaknesses. Make sure you resist the element the boss throws at you, have not one demon in your party that is weak to it. Also, buff and debuff the shit out of yourself and the enemy. Then you should be fine.

>>285568412
You can get it at the Junk shop in Ginza Underpass.
I'd argue that you'd better use the physical resist magatama in combination with the force negating Uzume, but that's up to preference. Still, don't forget the Hua Po for Rakukaja

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>>285568383
I'm hoping it's FE tactics with SMT abilities

It'd make for some deep gameplay, or at least some really fun gameplay

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>hear this series is really good
>hear Nocturne is the fan favourite
>start it up and selct "Hard" cause I think JRPGS are babby games
>mfw

This shit is sweet as hell.

>>285568718
Rakukaja is the one that buffs hit right?

I think I have that on a bicorn

>>285568281
>there are people who don't say Neck-train and domey found
i dont want to believe

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>>285568767
>first time
>Nocturne
>hard
>thinks JRPGs are baby games

Almost more so than any other JRPG out there, Nocturne has a notorious reputation for being brutal and unforgiving. You're fucked.

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>>285568506
Uzume is recommended because she has Media to heal your team up when he starts spamming Andalucia.

>>285567732
Get Sukukuja and Fog Breath
You can get Fog Breath on Demifiend at level 21 with the ice magatama

>>285568506
Sure, if she has the buff you want why not. Maybe a better choice since I believe she has more HP, but Hua Po is more common since she's easily acquired.

Play around with it and find your own solution, that's half the fun

>>285566172

>Get friend in to SMT4
>He's enjoying it for a while
>Stops chatting about it
>Ask him how he's getting on
>"Man fuck this game, it's a grind fest"
>Wut
>Ask him to show me his file
>Flynn is level 35, all points in Gun
>Party consists of low level demons leveled to like 25, Gryphon and Pixie are 2 of them
>Check compendium, no fusing being done
>No buffs/debuffs
>Paused outside Hall of the Minotaur

My sides.

>>285568459

can someone edit this so it's a space marine vs a chaosfag

Fuck off with this general shit

Go to fucking /vg/ and get this trash out of /v/

>>285567587
Nintendo was going to shitcan the franchise if Awakening didn't sell well, and Awakening came out only nine months before SMTxFE was announced. So the game has basically only been in development SINCE it was announced. You don't want a game that was rushed out in a year, do you? SMT4 took them like four years to make.

>>285568920
So basically he thought he was playing pokémon? And being bad at that too I suppose.

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>>285569003

>>285569003
No, /smtg/ is hell right now

>>285568876
>Almost more so than any other JRPG out there, Nocturne has a notorious reputation for being brutal and unforgiving

It's not THAT bad, they give you tons of save points and turnabout is fair play so 90% of the broken skills enemies use can also be used by you.

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>>285568920
Probably better that he stops now.

The Overworld of Tokyo is going to piss him off something serious and if that doesn't do him in, King Kenji is going to wall him so hard it'll stand as a testament to his arrogance for the next millennium.

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>>285567687
>SJ
>Raidou
>Neuter
>Who needs demons when you can have Walter?

>>285568920
I hope you gave him a push in the right direction.

>>285568721
I'm expecting something similar to Devil Survivor personally.

>>285568920
>Gryphon levelled to 25
Now that is some dedication

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>>285569003
Someone's mad

>>285568920
LEVEL 35!? HOLY SHIT
You should teach him the power of fusion, debuffing and weakness though, Minotaur can be easily beat with a lv 12 mc if all the party has bufu

Unless Walter sides with you

>>285568383
A mix of devil survivor and fire emblem would be neat. But the crossover is so bizzare it's difficult to guess how it's going to work. It's a good thing SMT has expanded into pretty much all RPG subgenres because I can't see FE adjusting to non-SRPG mechanics very well.

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>>285569140
Haven't been there since before /vg/.

Is PHG still there?

>>285569003

/vg/ is even worse than /v/, a shitty circlejerk wherever you look

>>285569113
>>285569140
I don't give a fuck, if your shit general is shit, then make it better

Get the fuck off my /v/, or else

>>285568050
>mfw lvl19, party is Nekomata, Uzume, Nozumi
>all resist or absorb zan
>doing well while he uses only mazan, attack, dekaja and red capote
>all of a sudden enrage and andalucia
>entire party is wiped out in 1 turn and he gets 3 criticals on me
The fuck? Are there any Demons you can get at 19 or 20 that have dekaja?

>>285567129

I'm not sure how they're going to do it, if they do choose to do it.

I've always liked them on handheld, and the dual screen shit on the DS/3DS is just top tier for immersion and gameplay. You know what puts me off JRPGs on console? Fucking repeated animations for every goddamn attack. I hated it in Persona 4 and I hated it in Nocturne, I hope they keep it on handheld, but with 3D exploration like SMTIV

>>285568849
>not Nicked tin
>not Doomy Fin

>>285569140
It's mostly dead actually. And it'd be fine if people posted there.

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>>285569270
>or else

>>285569270

>my

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>>285569003
Unclench your sphincter and join in on the fun, faggot.

>>285569270
>don't discuss video games on my /v/

>>285569235
>>285569195

I ended up explaining weaknesses and shit

His fucking file was at like 20 hours, unreal

>>285567743
I'm sure this is a digimon.

is there any problem with starting at SMT4?
It's all I have access to

>>285569397
>grinding on the beginning dungeon for 20 hours

At least he's dedicated.

>>285569397
>I ended up explaining weaknesses and shit
You didn't tell him to fuse his demons?

>>285569270
/smtg/ is a lost cause, there's no saving it

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>>285569151
This baller right here has a tendency to fucking anti-guidefags in the asshole without lube.

>>285569240

I hope there's soldier/demon fusion, that'd be amazing

I want to fuse Lucina and Pixie to create an ultimate waifu

>>285569270
>my
>or else

>>285569469
It'll make you appreciate 3 and SJ more, so it's a good entry point.

Because it's not as good.

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>>285568920
LEVEL 35!? HOLY SHIT
You should teach him the power of fusion, debuffing and weakness though, Minotaur can be easily beat with a lv 12 mc if all the party has bufu

Unless Walter sides with you

>>285569274
It's better if you have if you have the resist phys magatama and anther demon who can take Andalucia. Since Matador uses Mazan, you only need 1 demon who nulls/drains to make his turn go to waste.

Also Rakukaja yourself

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>>285569562
DID SOMEONE SAY AGI?

>>285569469
No mate it's alright.
But if you have acess to SMTIV you also have access to Devil Survivor overclocked, Soul Hackers, Strange Journey and soon Devil Survivor 2 record breaker

>>285569481
That's included in the "and shit" part man, don't worry, he's set now. Last I heard he was at the tower looking for Gabbys buddys

>>285569469
No, it's a really good starting point actually, despite people loving to shit on it.

>>285569274
Take-Minakata, but you have to get him up to 21.

>>285569562
I'm fine for rakukaja its just the criticals that killed me.
Guess I'll keep looking for a better solution.

IV is my favorite SMT.

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>>285569242
PHG left a long time ago and now mostly shitposts on /m/.

I personally haven't been in SMTG in probably a year either though.

>>285569551
>3 is a great game

Can we please stop this meme? It's okay, but calling it the best SMT game is pretty insulting to the entire meta series. Now that SMT4 is here it's in an awkward place where it's not as good for beginners but not good enough to warrant immediate playing.

Just my thoughts

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>>285569469
Nah, in fact, it's probably best that you do. It's arguably the weakest in the entire franchise but it does a pretty good job of introducing you to some fundamental SMT concepts: mainly, to aim for press turns and to USE BUFFS OH GOD USE THEM PLEASE.

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>>285568920
>play SMT4 without knowing about the Minotaur
>somehow I fused a party that all had bufu skills
>completely stomp Minotaur

>>285569551
>>285569794

I get you, I was thinking I should start at a less good entry.

>>285569629

I have Overclocked but it's not really the same, is it?

>>285569521
There probably will be fusion, but I think human fusions would be too bizarre. Much like the giant yellow head, human fusion is stuck in the past and with Jimenez.

I'd be stoked if there was on-field demon/soldier negotiation dependent on affinity/alignment.

>>285569764
That
Is
Fucking
nice

i recently finished DDS 1 and thought it was pretty neato. im currently just outside the EGG place in DDS 2 and am currently wondering what i should play next. ive played persona 3 and 4 before but always ended up running out of steam.

i was thinking maybe strange journey or SMT IV? Recommendations are welcome.

>>285569764
I strongly disagree with you but you're entitled to your opinion.

>>285569764

It's my favorite main series game if we aren't counting Doom Guys Bizarre Adventure

>>285569831
It's not really the same because it's an SRPG, but a lot of the core mechanics like fusion are in it so it's not a waste to start there. Also has one of the best story lines in the series. I started with the vanilla version on DS so overclocked should be fine. IV is good too though.

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>>285567687
>Nocturne
>Space Marine
>Neutral
>Titania
>>285568842
Rakukaja buffs defense, Sukukaja buffs hit/dodge

>>285570016

Both I can play on my 3DS so I suppose I can go back and forth between them as much as I like.

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>>285567687
>SJ
>Abel
>Neutral
>Daisoujou

>>285570091
That works, but they're both 60+ hours so you might burn out. If you can handle it go for it

>>285567687

>Soul Hackers
>Hacker bro or Flynn
>Neutral, just like my life
>Pixie is love

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>>285569887
If you liked DDS's battle system, try Nocturne. If you want something different, try Strange Journey.
Also, before you leave the Airport in DDS2, fight the bonus boss archangels if you want to.

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>>285569887

Play the Raidou games. They're a lot of fun and they usually get overlooked.

>>285570279

You've got a point, should I just focus on SMT4 then? My motivation for Overclocked is less because I had to abandon the game I had after a couple hours of play.

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>>285567687

over 9k hours

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>>285570315
whats the point of doing that? also, whats the upgrade/skill learning system in noctourne like? that was probably my favourite aspect of dds.

and thankyou for replying.

argilla is best girl

>>285570414
Overclocked starts out very slow, so I don't blame you. It starts to really get into motion I believe around day 2-3. How far are you into it? If you already fought beldr and don't like it I'd go for SMTIV

>>285570571
You can ingest different Magatama's that you learn set skills from and also set your resists and weaknesses.

But you can only have 8 and if you get rid of a skill you can't learn it again.

>>285570582

I had to abandon it at the second day, when you're supposed to save that singer or whatever. I've not begun again so far.

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>>285570571
You get a manta, but I never used it. If you like bonus challenges give them a shot, though.

In Nocturne, you learn skills by equipping Magatama. These magatama give stat bonuses and resistances/weaknesses also. If you forget a skill you can't relearn it.
Demons learn skills by level-up, and you can pass skills to new demons via fusion.

>>285570801
Make sure you're using the skill crack and setting skills on your people.

I played up the Beldr fight without realizing I could get and set skills on people and stopped playing for weeks when I couldn't beat him.

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>>285570571
>Kaneko will never design SMT waifus again

>>285570965

Don't worry, I've been using the skill crack whenever I could. Demon auction was really fun to use too.

>>285570801
You're still more or less in tutorial land. And since you have to save her a bunch of other times I'm guessing it's the first time you see her and she's getting cornered right?

That one is a tough fight, but you're still right at the begging. If the fight is giving you trouble I'd suggest getting a demon of the wilder family for the 7 movement bonus or a demon with animal leg as a racial skill for move again after battle. It's one of the few roadblocks in the game

>>285571104

It's not that I'm stuck, it's that I pirated the broken european version and can't get the update

>>285571216
>european
>Doesn't know Atlus hates yurop
>Doesn't know never to get shit from ghostlight
Just pirate the US version and restart man. Painful, but there's really no other way

>>285571449

I have done that, that's why I say I've only just begun the game and also have little motivation.
I've no idea how they managed to break things in the euro version.

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>>285567687
Devil Survivor
Abel
Chaos is funnest, Law is best
Bondage Angel

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Thanks for the info guys. ill definitely check out nocturne if i can get my hands on it. maybe raidou as well

How coincidental, the credits of nocturne are alt tabbed on my emu right at this moment. Gonna go back a few hours and finish amala for TDE. Just pissed that I'll have to remake my entire endgame party for a single ability, pierce of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFNBMLtP2Ok

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>>285567687
I tried

>>285571830
>I'll have to remake my entire endgame party for a single ability,

Just throw pierce on a mitama and fuse them with your party.

>>285571830
Only Demi-Fiend needs it. You can just have everyone else buff and heal

>>285572293
all their skills are full, except daisoujou. I saved before putting his two final skills. Maybe I could just use demifiend for attacks and the rest for pure support, however there's also curse protection. I had trouble with chiaki and her fly attack, I'm guessing I'm gonna have trouble with beelzebub too

>>285572487
I need it on daisoujou so he can replenish his mp

>>285572554
>daisoujou

Based Daisoujo. He never left my party.

You can still take him with just Demi-Fiend, it'll just take a little longer.

He's not too tough, but it feels like the battle goes on forever.

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>>285569404
nah

Not sexy enough to be a digimon.

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So what's the deal with DDS and Devil Summoner? Are both of them 1 full game each, split in half or are the respective parts full games with sequels (new plot, refined gameplay/graphics etc) ?

>>285575882
DDS is split in half
Devi Samana is seperate

>>285576215
I was gonna get all 4 anyway, but that's good to know. does DDS2 continue right where DDS1 left off?

>>285576378

Pretty much.

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>>285567587
People said Record Breaker was cancelled because there was barely any news on it.

It wasn't.

>>285571823

Uh she doesn't have any pants?

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>>285569195
Walters a demon in his manga.

Except all he does is kill demons and doesn't show any world of STR bullshit. He even leads Yuriko to a pathetic death when she tries to kill him.

>>285576527
whatchu gonna do about it, fuccboi?

>>285569793
>SJ is a great game

This meme needs to stop, too.

So is this series like Digimon or something?

>>285576527
Angels are pure, she's got nothing to hide.

>>285576795
Yes, it's exactly like Digimon. With a little bit of Pokémon too.

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>>285576795
Digimon is the SMT: Devil Children of anime.

>>285569793
>Can we please stop this meme?
At this point, the people who shit on Nocturne have become way more obnoxious than the "Nocturnebabbies" they complain about.

>>285576795
>Digimon or something?
what a clear categorization! absolutely yeah, I think >like Digimon or something describes the entirety of SMT best!

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>>285576832
Angel is slave. She don't want emancipation.

>>285577060
I understand where they are coming from because some people do act like it has the greatest characters and story, which is a tad ridiculous.

Still love it though.

>>285577246
>Angel is slave

Huh

>>285577341
Angels are the disposable mooks of the Divine Hierarchy.

Holy Ghost is higher up than her, and they're the slimes of angels.

>>285577060
I'm pretty sure it's Strange Journey fans that shit on it. No one else is that obnoxious.

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How cheap can I get a PS2 these days?

My only computer is a semi-shitty thinkpad and I really want to play Nocturne.

Also, why is Beelzebub so based?

>>285579405
its like 30 dollars second hand where I live, another 30 for jailbreaking and you have smoe amazing games like 8 ps2 smt's, devil may cry 1-3 and stuff like that

>>285579705
yeah, the SMTs, god hand, the DMC games are all on my list.

also the proper version of vice city and san andreas, none of that iOS port on 360 bullshit

>>285579405
Goto a Mexican neighborhood during garage sale season and you'll be tripping over thousands of them. Careful with the Wiis, they're also all over the place in those places.

>>285577060
Nocturne circlejerking was the norm back in 2013 or so, now it's been replaced by the Strange Circlejerk and "DOOMGUY!!! DOOM RPG" spam.

Too bad all mainline games are great.

>>285569240
From the like, single interview I saw about the game, Atlus(who is the main dev) said they wanted it to be like a standard JRPG. Also set in Tokyo.
So it sounds like they basically want to make SMT with FE characters or something.

>>285580380

That might be what Atlus want, but you have to remember how anal is Nintendo with his IP.

>>285580373
>All mainline games are great

Oh boy, here we go

The best Persona is objectively _

>>285580373
>Too bad all mainline games are great.
Your taste is fucking good.

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>know all the memes before playing Nocturne
>get Matador on my first try because I already spam sukunda first turn
>know Daisoujo uses hama a lot
>make a party that is completely filled with everyone being immune to light (and weak to dark)
>MAMUDOON

>>285580380
That quote's from a Nintendo producer

>Speaking with the Hobby Consolas magazine, Hitoshi Yamagami (Xenoblade, Pandora’s Tower, Fire Emblem: Awakening) shared, “For a long time, I’ve wanted to create a Fire Emblem in our times, in the real world. Imagine a Pegasus that comes from the sky and lands on Building 109 of Shibuya, Tokyo. I always thought that would be incredible.”
>“At the same time, I know it’s hard because of how Fire Emblem is. I visited many companies to express these ideas. When I went to Atlus, I was told that Shin Megami Tensei together with Fire Emblem is what I wanted. So, I soon said that to Intelligent Systems and started this very special collaboration.”
>Yamagami added, “Oops! I shouldn’t say that the game takes place in the real world. We haven’t announced it, right?”

http://strawpoll.me/3788431

Pretty near the end of SMT 1 now. It's a great little game, especially for its time. And the soundtrack is baller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8TCwi0z3BU

Thing is, now I've played 1, Nocturne, and IV of the main series. My personal ranking is
>Nocturne>IV>1
Keep in mind SMT so far is definitely my favorite JRPG series, and all these games I've played are better than most other in my opinion.

I just don't get why people shit on IV saying it's "easily the worst in the series"
Yeah it had some questionable design decisions, but it was a really well made game, and comparing it objectively with games like SMT 1, it's way better. SMT 1 has a super limited fusion system, a broken battle system, and an obnoxious map.
I loved the hell out of SMT 1, but I can't honestly say it was better than IV.

>tl;dr I think people insisting IV is the worst apparently haven't played every game in the series

>>285580936
10/10 image, that's fucking hilarious

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Skelly biker best fiend

>>285581189
the most obvious conclusion someone who's played most of the SMT games comes to is that the difficulty is vastly overstated

>>285581189
>I just don't get why people shit on IV saying it's "easily the worst in the series"
I'm convinced they're people who've played only Nocturne and/or SJ. Especially since they usually cite IV being "easiest in the series" when that really isn't the case. Also the only hard SMT is your first SMT.

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Maybe you guys'll appreciate my SMTxFE OC...

>>285580936

To this day I still don't know how everyone got so caught up on Matador. Daisoujou was 10x worse in a guideless run of that fucking game. Nigger tanked and took my shit like he was some sort of end boss.

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>>285581120
>no If
>no dds
>no reveléatons: persona
>no persona: innocent slut
>no persona: eternal carpet munching
>no majin tensei
>no ronde
>no Demikids dark edition
>no devil summoner
>no devil summoner: aspect raidou versus yaoi hell
>no autism survivor
>no autism survivor 2 ballon tits boogaloo
>no megami tensei

>>285579405
Why not get a PS3, it pretty much has the PS2 library right now.

>>285581189
It's most complaints about the dungeons or lack of Kaneko, which to be fair aren't unreasonable complaints. I loved how a lot of the dungeons were seamlessly integrated into the overworld, it's the only SMT game that's really given me a sense of exploration and, but when you enter dungeons like Kagome Tower and Lucifer Palace thinking, "ahh yeah, time to crawl some motherfucking dungeons" and they come off as blatantly unfinished, it sucks.

I wish Doi redrew all the new demon art at least, he's a better artist than most of the guest artists and it'd be a consistent style.

>>285581435
>Also the only hard SMT is your first SMT.
Confirmed for never playing SMT If...

That game is fucking brutal late game.

>>285581536
It's for mainline, obviously. And only the original Devil Summoner and If... are actually SMT out of those.

>>285581475
you just baldy copypasted two images together. how's that OC?

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>>285581492
For me it was Ongyo-ki

>woah that guy so hard
>annoying gimmick
>I build this team, just for ongyo-ki
>don't even attempt that cave until you get to lvl 60
etc

Meanwhile Kin-ki fucked me in the ass like five times until I remade my entire team, and Ongyo-ki died on my first try, without me even knowing the trick

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>>285581475
Does no one care?

>>285581614
I'm waiting on a translation before I play If..., so I'll have to take your word on it, but so far I haven't had troubles with any MegaTen game since I learned the basic mechanics.

>>285581606
Totally agree with you here. Like I said, IV definitely had it's faults.
Smirk and lack of Vit, few "real" dungeons, etc.

But damn I get disappointed looking at the cover art, seeing those horrendous demons actually looking cool.
If one thing can be said about the game, it gave me hope that Doi is actually pretty capable.

>>285581475
>>285581938
>>>/r/jojo

>>285581938
what the fuck is this.
Why?

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>>285581957
>I'm waiting on a translation before I play If...

>>285581938
Chaos Hero is too faggy for Owain.

>>285567743
Man, I enjoyed beating the shit out of that field boss

>>285581536
People actually liked the Raidou games?

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>>285582051
Yeah, you got me...

>>285581606
>playan nocturne
>tower of kagutsuchi aww yea time for final dungeon crawling goodness
>5 hours to finish not counting bossess
>sj
>horologium
>don't even need to say it
>lucifer's palace
>10 mins

>>285582359
Apart from the combat they were pretty great

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>>285566172
The one thing about I and II that I noticed is that I really couldn't fully appreciate these stellar designs in-game.
God Heroine is a qt

So Mem Aleph one shots MC if you don't get any buffs/debuffs in before her first turn
cool

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>>285582157
I was bored one afternoon and decided to make things for SMTxFE while I talked about what I wanted for it with a friend.

I don't need demon/human fusion. Just give me special weapon fusion and I'm fucking happy.

>>285582381
This shit is so cringey

>>285582407
>>>horologium
>>don't even need to say it
It was fun as fuck

Except when I missed the switch for turning the lava off FUCK THAT

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>>285582005
I like his art style and the character designs for IV were good, it just remains to be seen how he is in the demon design department.

Who knows what Kaneko's up to, I honestly wouldn't be shocked if he was working with the Persona team to render the new 3D demon models accurately. Hashino did mention it was a lot of work

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>>285582565
>not doing Chaos first, then fusing lvl99 demons for the other two endings
>not just copying a few codes for some baby demons who reflect everything and auto-combat her in five turns

>>285582631
yes it was

>>285582565
meme aleph is a pretty shit final boss, yes

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>>285582812
>it just remains to be seen how he is in the demon design department.

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It's canon that the Demi-Fiend fucks Lilim regularly, right?

>>285581492
Daisoujou is a joke if you have Tetraja

>>285582846
>he cant beat mem aleph normally

aww poor wittle baby. persona general is

>>/vg/ that way

>>285582949
Doi didn't design any of the new demons you dongus

>>285582846
>being a casual
not him but beating mem aleph by myself with a non cheesing party that I created and going neutral the first time gave me a massive ego boost after not being able to beat lucifer in IV on normal and not using buffs the entire game, and getting through half the game with reflecting skills

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>>285582565
>>285582910
>I'm too lazy to grind for only 6 hours

>>285582812
Yeah I don't think Kaneko's creativity can be beat. I'd be interested to see Doi do original designs. But as far as pure drawing skill goes his redraws of other demon designs were pretty great.

>>285582949
Doi only did characters, not the new demons
And to Doi's credit that samurai outfit is slick as hell.

Does anyone else purposefully try to make their ultimate team all loli-ish demons? Currently working on a Pixie, Nadia, Alice team in SMTIV for my hard playthrough. Alice is easy to make awesome but the other two even with the best skills are just barely passable. It's worth it though.

>>285582978
I'm probably the luckiest guy, but his ohko attack never connected

>>285582407
I'm playing through DDS right now. Karma temple is hell holy shit when does this end.

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>Prayer
>Meditation

There goes 80% of the game

>>285583171
At least in IV it's way easier to make any demon good though. The only problem then is raw stats. Which are annoying but doable.

>>285582949
I like that design. I respect SMTs ability to reform the looks of major demons in each game. We didnt need another loli satan, and something about his design in IV screams foreign hostile demon, which is pretty neat. looks a lot better in his second form too but you didnt post that since you could shit post

I'm playing DDS right now, game is fun, but kind of repetetive. Is the second one better/more interesting.

>>285583124
>Yeah I don't think Kaneko's creativity can be beat
Oh another human with black lips and asian clothes!

Just kidding, I fucking love Kaneko

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>>285583413
>I respect SMTs ability to reform the looks of major demons in each game

>>285583413
>Looks a lot better in his second design too.
Not really. Both are awful in my humble opinion. And I'm not that guy that posted it.
Also Lucifer isn't Satan.
Also Lucifer has never been a loli, nor has Satan for that matter.
That's just a bad design, it's not fearsome in any way, and it's not really based on anything either, which is something I love about the usual demon designs in SMT, like Kushinada being based on a comb because of her backstory

>>285582963

So when kill Kaneko learn to draw feet?

>>285583374
Actually the main problem I run into aside from the poor inates is their HP / MP growth as low level demons don't scale well and end up less than an equal level demon caught at a higher level (controlling for MP/HP types) Actual raw stats are insane because of all the stat bonus apps but they all die in one hit and it's impossible to cover ALL the elements on them so I need to have enduring soul on each of them as well as MP surge and ideally HP surge.

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>>285581189
I fucking love how IV embraced the series' horror roots again, all the spooky songs spread throughout culminating in Lucifer's final form theme just being the Silent Hill 1 final boss theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0MEIzRlM8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY92NAdGaR4

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>>285583417
More of the same really, but it's a bit more refined

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>>285583765
:^d

>>285583837
>I fucking love how IV embraced the series' horror roots again
You mean the rape-manga from 30 years ago? That's not the kind of roots anybody wants to revisit

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>>285581576
This, all the Atlus PS2 games go on sale ridiculously often, and you can also play catherine and P5 if you want.

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>>285584073
I'd like to revisit these roots

>>285584073
But Giten is the best game in the series

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>>285584073
>>285584334
>>285584361

STRAWPOLL TIME

http://strawpoll.me/3788690

>>285584426
Hahaha, well upvote'd my friend!

gonna replay smtiv on hard.

played through it already on Law / white ending.


so chaos or neutral boiz?

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IT'S TIME
DEMONS AND HUMANS ALIKE, JOIN TO WATCH THE STRONGEST FIGHT EACH OTHER

Music theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCXs0lFDrS4

>first time playing nocturne
>my party is carried by nekomata and some flying slut that heals everybody with media, been keeping worthless angel around because she will eventually get good
>reach thor

and then i learned that weakness counts as crit and doubles turn. and that dancing pink frog with masks are actually decent

>>285583854
That's cool. I like the first well enough and the story is bretty cool, so I'll probably go ahead and play the second one.

My main complaint with DDS is that the dungeons seem to go on forever, with no change in environment or monster variety.

>>285584803
neutral, aligned endings in SMT IV a shit, especially since the end dungeons are so short.

>>285584803
Neutral if you're not going for another playthrough afterwards. But if you will, you should save the best for last.

>>285584874

Go back to your meme thread, shithead.

Hungry games sucks and it's just a stupid rip-off of Batle Royale.

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>>285584874
Let's fucking go.

>>285584883
I was like lvl 49 when I finally got how Press turn even works. Like, you don't get more turns, but your one turn gets extended and makes the icon flash.

I felt really dumb

>>285584883
what the fuck they teach you press-turn at the start of the goddamn game

dO i Need to Read the Manga First or Can I Just Play SMT1?

>>285585859
No, it's trash

If you wanna be all hipster and all, start with Megami Tensei I instead

About to fight Zelenin for the Chaos ending. My long journey is almost over.

Chaos is best.

When Demifiend met his friends why wasn't he like "oh you hate being a weak human? you need a bug that makes you a demon? I mean, I have like fifteen, want one"

He is such a jerk

>>285586008

It's weird, there's no playthroughs for it on Youtube

>>285586243
His friends are the jerks. I don't blame him for wanting a world of Chaos since the demons were nicer to him than his friends ever were.

>>285586479
>My reason is that I'm a jobber
>My reason is that I'm on my period

His classmates are such shit

I SAVE YOUR ASS FROM PRISON T W I C E AND YOU ARE LIKE "OH NEVERMIND YOU WERE LATE" FUCK YOU ISAMU YOU FAGGOT HIPSTER SACK OF SHIT

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Hey guys is using passwords cheating?

I mean it's right there, anyone got any passwords for SJ?

>>285586875
Check the MegaTen wiki.

>>285586875
Trust

>>285586875
Yeah its cheating

>>285586875
If you're desperate go ahead and use them.

>>285587149

It's just that one of the crewmen became a monster and he's kicking my butt.

Also, met this creepy as fuck grey angel guy

Pretty sure he's a bad guy even though he has white stuff

>>285587573
Wrong, Mastema is very trustworthy

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>>285587573
>pretty sure he's the bad guy

No anon, he isn't. He's the good guy.

>>285587573
you shouldn't need to be cheating at that point in the game

>>285584874
go on

>starting Soul Hackers
>on B2F of icy warehouse
>all my demons are leaving me

Why? And how I stop this?

>>285587791
Site is not loading

I've dissapointed you all

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>"Strange Journey is better than Nocturne"

>>285587691

Can't advance, me and my party get wiped.

I have Pixie, Sudama and Ubu. Also this is my SMT, I haven't picked up the game in months, but then I realized there's passwords in the game, maybe that'll help?

>>285587718
>>285587691

Just look at him, he screams hey guys you can totally trust me

He's probably like a fallen angel or something

>>285588119
The dungeons and story are, but in everything else Nocturne is better.

Who thought it was a good idea to drop the press turn system for SJ?

>>285581189
I'm not going to lie - I probably overrate SMTI because it was my very first SMT game.

That said, though, I like SMT for its dungeon crawling, and IV was severely lacking in that regard.

>>285587573
Are you in the prison?

How bad are you at videogames, sheesh

>>285588219
No, y'see the thing is, in smt you dont have to be a "fallen angel" to be a jew. law doesn't mean good, and chaos doesn't mean bad
law means dictatorship, chaos means darwinism, and neutral means present society

>>285587808
They're not leaving, they're dying because you don't have enough MAG to support them when you're walking around. Get into more fights to get more MAG.

>>285587808
Having demons in your party drains MAG, remove a few demons from your party and increase your MAG before putting them back in. I usually only had a full party for bosses.

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SJ protag is best.

>>285588119
To be honest I dont even understand what people like about nocturne. story and atmosphere sucks, its in 3d but the graphics are dogshit.

so what the fuck is it. dont even say gameplay because IV has nearly the same yet you also say that game is worse

>>285588292
I didn't think the story was anything special. All SMT games are preachy to some degree, but SJ really went overboard with its environmentalism bent.

>>285587808
Are you letting their loyalty drop? Stop making them use moves that they dislike. Learn the different personality types and figure out which moves they like. Most of them are fairly simple - wild ones like physical attacks, kind ones like to heal, dumb ones just hate being ordered around. Once their loyalty reaches a certain point, they'll pretty much be willing to die for you. Use sake if needed.

>>285588292
Music and fusion mechanics are also better.

>>285588363

So what do I do?

>>285588953
>SJ music
>good
Every song is literally the same.

>>285589125
Yeah, cause Nocturne's generic rock riff with gibberish is so much better.

>going any ending but neutral and sometimes chaos

>>285589349
Yeah it is. What's your point?

>>285589125

T>>285589349

The best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuzvQW_gxkk

>>285589442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jaqpQNjJLc
The point is this alone is better than the whole Nocturne soundtrack.

>>285589408
From a story standpoint, I can't stand neutral endings because they're always cliche and generic.

But in-universe neutral is probably the best choice.

>>285589678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb6J0-3KTnY

Yeah, no.

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Why can't we all just get along?

>>285589442
let's not kid ourselves, the rock songs are fucking terrible.
the only song I really liked was this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncEmAJYA13U
I hate how they ruin the other songs with terrible J rock

>>285590348

Who's the military outfit guy? Looks like nazi

>>285590156
>Beelzebub
No.

>>285590156
just no. at least there's no jrock guitars in there

>>285567129
got smt on my phone niggea

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>>285567687
I'm on the 5th world in Strange Journey.
Its my first SMT game.
Which game should I play next?

I really like this grid base exploration type stuff.

>>285590861
Soul Hackers

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>>285590426
You don't mean Raidou, do you?

The guy at the very back is Nakajima, the protagonist of Megami Tensei/Digital Devil Story.

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>>285569242
why you axin baby
you want my head on a plate like all the others who have a vague recollection of my existence

>replaying persona 4 for the sixth time
>don't want to beat the last dungeon because I know the ending will make me depressed
>again

I hate this game

>>285591214
Why not play a different game?

>>285591214
>for the sixth time
Jesus Christ, man.

>>285591214
>persona 4
>make me depressed
I don't think this series is for you man.

>>285588953
Nocturne music,while edgy, is pretty great

Not saying SJ is bad, but not he same caliber

SJ fusion wins by default for having a better special fusion system and because of the core system

>>285591214
I could barely stomach Persona 4 the first time.

>>285591369
I have been, then I made the mistake of finally buying Golden

>>285591497
The game has been out for 7 years now, plenty of time to replay it

>>285591545
That's why I enjoy it
artificial friends are better than real ones

>>285589092
Just kill him? Did you ever fuse any demons, or are you rolling with pixies and knockers?

>>285591214
I hate you personafags so much. thanks to you and your waifufaggism Persona has basically become the new SMT mainline.

I like SMT because it avoids doing so many things that make me dislike JRPGs, like waifushit, weeb bait, boring settings, shonen clichees, disgusting jpop ost etc.
now you sad and lonely fucks came in and stick money up atlus' ass because you get your virgin fix with persona

People praising Nocturne often forget how the original before the rerelease was fucking trite

No fiends, no labyrinth, no Dante/Raidou...

The west never got the retard version

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>>285591214
don't know how people find the ending to persona 4 sad. seeing everyone run along the side of the train is fucking hilarious tbh

play persona 3 if you want depressing

>pic related

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>>285592010
>>285591865
That's why I enjoy it
artificial friends are better than real ones

this is exactly what I meant. why did atlus have to pander to you low-life retards? fuck you

>>285592010
>>285592215
>being this mad when the last Persona game was a PS2 title
>being this mad when mainline SMT games are still in development

>>285592327
The last Persona game was Persona Q on 3DS late last year nigga.

>>285592327
I just really despise the low life creatures you faggots are.

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>>285566858

>>285592096
I dumped like 600 hours into P3 and then 4 was released

Once 5 comes out I can replay that until my eyes bleed and then wait for 6 and 7 and just continue until I finally die

>>285577060

When every single thread is filled with "Lel muh matador xD ATMOSPHERE!!!" shite, with one or two guys disagreeing, yeah I'd say that one is definitely much worse than the other. Just look at this thread, for example

>>285592327
thanks to pathetic persona virgins atlus has committed resources to P4G/P4A/P4U/PQ/P4DA instead of bringing another mainline game to ps3.
fuck you

>>285592472
that's a spinoff that has takes place between 3 and 4, has no bearing on the plot of either, has none of the waifu business that anon hates and uses EO dungeon design and row system. Might as well complain about SMT x Fire Emblem replacing mainline SMT
>>285592490
stay mad
>>285592691
What makes you think the new SMT game wouldn't be another 3DS game? Atlus is the master of reusing their assets anon.

>>285592819
go find some real friends, fattie

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>>285592327
>being mad at all and not developing apathy for further installments in the MegaTen series as a whole because of all the disappointments since 2011/12

Hey guys I like SMT and Persona

Persona is good, but holy shit mainline is waaay better why, can someone tell me WHY we can't have a proper, no hand-held SMT ?
Or at least give me a new raidou game.

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Best waifu

>>285592997
>implying I ain't skin and bones
>>285593068
For a spinoff, Persona Q is really good. SMT IV, while not as enjoyable as the previous two in my opinion, is still a dang ass fine game.
>>285593290
Consider they're remaking the demon models for Persona 5, I'd expect an announcement for PS4 or PS3 soonish.

>>285593290
This is exactly how I feel. Persona 4 ruined the entire series if you asked me. At least P3 was good.

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>>285593290
Coincidentally, this is pretty much what Japan says about Raidou vs. Devil Summoner.

>>285567687
Raidou 2
DeSu2 MC
Neutral
Amaterasu

>>285593521
>one guy is Japan
oh anon

>>285593454
thanks to people like this anon>>285591865
Atlus has traded mainline SMT for chie feet posting. gg, it's over

>>285593521
Wait, people from 2ch think that Sumio is part of the SMT world as well?

Suda hasn't made a Kill the Past entry since K7 (which in itself was a split outcome) but that sounds crazy

I don't even know where to start really commenting on this there's too much to go over

>wanting an SMT without Kaneko

>>285592691
>thanks to pathetic persona virgins atlus has committed resources to P4G/P4A/P4U/PQ/P4DA instead of bringing another mainline game to ps3.
thanks to pathetic persona virgins atlus isn't exclusively making F2P mobile games

or do you seriously think atlus had a $100 million budget set aside for SMT IV on PS3 they blew on Persona spinoffs instead

>>285593857
I'm not referring to that post specifically, I just think it's funny to note that Raidou gets the exact same complaints that Persona does. Or did back when the first game came out.

>>285593897
I don't know shit about K7, but the theory itself is pretty interesting, and there are enough similarities between Sumio and Kyouji that I feel like it's probably more than just a coincidence.

>>285593983
At least the desings are being used for P5 right?

Revelations Persona is bad t. idiots

>>285590861
Strange journey actually runs off the EO2 Engine, so if you don't mind having no demons, play Etrian Odyssey, It's a great series entirely built around the map exploration.
But if you want more SMT, go for soul hackers

>>285592520
It only makes sense once you have proto-Elizabeth explain the plot to you in the Labyrinth

>>285594180
Well Sumio is a spirtual being and has "been" several characters, including Garcian from Killer 7

Sumio from Flower, Sun & Rain carried around a briefcase at all times, as did Garcian (for different reasons)

Edo, the hotel manager, makes an appearance in K7 for a brief moment, and references that he "remembers" Garcian, alluding to that he is Sumio at least in some part

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh5ZEZwtX2E

Does Kyoji Kuzunoha have any sort of baggage or specific trait that would make him similar to Sumio?

>>285586832
Not to mention you clear out the Amala temple to even give him the magatsuchi in the first place.
Isamu is a shitlord. At least Chiaki did shit by herself.

>>285594513
They probably kept a few of this designs, but as long as who ever did the art for IV I think it'll be okay.

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>>285594935
>Does Kyoji Kuzunoha have any sort of baggage or specific trait that would make him similar to Sumio?

OH FUCK

MY BRAIN