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Bloodborne to target a "Wider Audience"

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>"Yamagiwa said that Bloodborne’s “new online concept and experience… will capture a wider audience.”
>“You died a lot in the previous games, and you had to persevere, but one of our main goals with this game is that we don’t want to focus on punishing the player,”
>“The way in which we’re making the game? The sense of punishment is much less.”

http://www.vg247.com/2014/08/13/bloodborne-the-sense-of-punishment-is-much-less-wider-audience-is-the-target/

Sign this, brothers! We can do this!
We made From Software who they are today. We made the Souls series the most successful From series.

When From sees the massive support this petition gets, they will be forced to release Bloodborne only for hardcore gamers like us. The corporate suits at Sony won't even be able to do anything.

From Software, if you are reading this, there is still time to escape the wrath of us Sonybros.
We are willing to forgive and forget your betrayal if you release Bloodborne specifically for harcore Sonybros like us. #4theplayers is the most merciful, and the most gracious.

https://www.change.org/p/fromsoftware-do-not-make-bloodborne-less-punishing-to-attract-wider-audience

No shitposting please. Ignore shitposters.
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>>285439246
>>No shitposting please. Ignore shitposters.

You must mean "Ignore this thread."
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Why are people looking forward to this?

Dark Souls was worse than Demon's Souls. Dark Souls 2 was worse than Dark Souls.
This looks worse than Dark Souls 2.
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So is starting a petition a meme now?
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Enjoy your casualized shit, PS4-fags
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>>285439687
Please elaborate, anon.
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>>285439246

The sense of buying this will be much less aswell.
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You couldn't false flag any harder if you tried
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>less focus on difficulty
good, so it's going back to DeS style then

difficulty was never what made this series good
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>>285439246
Relax, they said that about Dark Souls 2, and look how that worked out
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>directed by Hidetaka Miyazaki
>said to be his Magnum Opus
>Playstation Exclusive
>No B Team
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>you had to persevere, but one of our main goals with this game is that we don’t want to focus on punishing the player,”
dropped. confirmed as baby's first souls game. they're probably trying to reel-in the interactive movie crowd that can barely play games.
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was the shotgun in a souls game not a dead giveaway that they wanted the casual audience?
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Why is sage disabled
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>>285441467
It's not?
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The previous thread isn't even dead yet.

Mods, 404 this shit.
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>>285439687
>Dark souls was worse than Demon's Souls
>Muh nostalgia
>Muh tinted glasses

It's was not anon
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>>285439246
>ignore demon shit games
>ignore demon shit threads
>ignore artificial difficulty
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>>285439687
>DeS is better than DaS
There are people who really believe that?I played Demon's souls first and admit that dark souls is clearly superior,you have to be a fedora overload to not believe that
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>>285441618
whoops, you're right

OP if you're actually serious, there are numerous quotes from people working on Bloodborne that contradict eachother on the topic of "widening the audience".

>Game will be made for Demon's Souls fans
>Game is Miyazaki's best yet
>Game is focused on making the player fear death (you die and the game gets harder)
>Game is widening its audience - vg247 article


Just wait for release day and warily check out /v/ threads or other websites with immediate feedback to see if people are having similar difficulties compared to DeS/DaS/DaSII
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>>285439246
I'm fucking signing this.
I want the sense of accomplishment to sing me to sleep as I die in it's warm bosom.
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>>285443029
>see if people are having similar difficulties compared to DeS/DaS/DaSII
It's already looking grim
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>>285443313
>I'm fucking signing this.
>I want the sense of accomplishment to sing me to sleep as I die in it's warm bosom.
F
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Soooooo is this serious or not I kinda enjoy the difficulty
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>>285443467
When someone who thought DSII was "very challenging" says that Bloodborne feels "very easy" in comparison, that's when it's time to really start panicking..
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>>285443467
I read his opinion

>Whilst playing, I found it much easier to dodge attacks, as well as the fact that most attacks did not come close to killing you if not dodged; those attacks that can seem to be so slow that if you pay any real attention, there will be no problem dodging them.

It seems that he thinks Dark Souls was hard because of bad game design (dodging not working 100%/stupid hitboxes). This "Cpt Eccentric" guy sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about. Difficulty doesn't lie in bad game design, it lies in good game design.

"Dodging is too easy" - this doesn't make any sense.
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>>285444639
>this doesn't make any sense.

It does if attacks are slow and overly telegraphed.
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>>285443467

>The main reason why Dark souls became such a hit was the immense difficulty

So not the interconnecting map, story setting, mood, straight to the point game play without movies, online design, art direction, adventuring, and fair win-lose conditions for progress? Just "muh difficulty"?
And really, Souls game? Difficult? Does he measure "difficulty" in "died like a bitch"?
Can a "souls fan" be any more of a faggot?
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I'm the biggest faggot following this game before it was even announced

Here is what you take from this post:
>>285439246


A while back, a few months ago, you faggots remember From Software saying they were still looking for a "penalty for death"?

them saying this now means they couldn't find a penalty for death, or Sony didn't want a penalty for death, so dying might mean you lose your souls and that's all.

nothing like DaS2/DeS where your health would get reduced for dying

that is ALL this article means.


on a personal level, Sony is funding development of this title directly so Yoshida himself probably requested little punishment for death.
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>>285439494
You sound like a faggot, OP.
The game will be fine.
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>>285443989
It's real

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bloodborne+audience
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>>285439246
>We're going for a wider audience, guys!
That's when you know a series is kill. No series has ever been good again after saying that.
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>>285445919
you fcking fag, all the OP means is you don't lose access to online co-op because you died or anything completely bonefucking retarded like that.
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>>285443467
>In an exhibition demo

>>285439246
>http://www.vg247.com/2014/08/13/bloodborne>the-sense-of-punishment-is-much-less-wider-audience-is-the-target/

>the public demo has been toned down in difficulty compared to the retail version as From wants players to experience the full demo.
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>>285445996

Explain more, I haven't read the news for co-op. You saying after hitting 0hp while summoned you don't vanish to your world instantly?
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>>285445919
They said the exact same thing for DS2
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>>285445369
>bunch of publicity shots with YOU DIED plastered all over the internet as the main advertisement campaign for DS
>pc version named "PREPARE TO DIE! EDITION"
>DSII has with a world death counter that is totally irrelevant to your personal playthrough but nonetheless there to show you how "hard" this game is!

They've been riding this shtick since DS1 and you're now making believe that it's something new that you never heard of for the sake of shilling Bloodborne. Please kindly fuck off with your bullshit.
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>>285446208
>Explain more, I haven't read the news for co-op. You saying after hitting 0hp while summoned you don't vanish to your world instantly?

all this means is you don't go "Hollow" when you die and need to do some ridiculous stupid side-task in order to become human and summon people for co-op again

a couple of months before OP, there was this article

>http://www.gamezone.com/news/bloodborne-director-death-will-occur-often-but-the-penalty-still-being-determined

where miyazaki was saying he still wasn't sure how people should be punished for dying

que this topic a couple of months later, and it's clear Sony decided death will mean you lose your souls and that's that.
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>>285446136
I played the demo at gamescom last year, and it sure as fuck wasn't braindead easy. Also it was like the first 20 minutes of the game.
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One of the reason DaS2 was bad was because people were just equating the franchise to "muh difficulty" and from capitalized on that instead of the cohesion of the world and level design. And looking at Bloodborne footage, it doesn't seem to be less challenging anyway
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>>285439687
DaS is objectively better than DeS gameplay-wise.
BB is shaping out to be better than both of them.
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>>285445919
>new online concept and experience… will capture a wider audience

This is because you can now summon players to you, summon yourself to other players, banish players from your world, write and read messages, and I'm guessing invade another world or duel all from one menu as seen in the alpha
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>>285439246
Kings Field and Armored core made them what they are today.

Souls is turning them to shit.
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Fuck off, seriously. I'm done with the Souls community defending poor design for the sake of difficulty alone as many did for Dark Souls 2. It's completely asinine, difficulty was never the point of the series. It was just a means to an end and the end was to create climatic moments. I trust Miyazaki to make the game he wants to make. I trust him to make the game challenging but fair enough to give us that sense accomplishment which helps create said moments. The last people on this planet I trust with design decisions are your average Souls fans.
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>>285446546

I love how there is always that guy that praises some other game a developer made because they wouldn't be caught dead liking the popular one.
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>ps4 exclusive
>wider audience
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>>285446136
>before all the bloodborne shills bragging that everyone thought the "demo was very hard!"
>didn't work, nobody believed the bullshit
>now saying the demo was meant to be easy
It's like you shillfags have utterly zero shame about backpedaling.
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>>285446546

King's Field and Armored Core are both garbage franchises, though.
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Every boss is Old Monk

at the end of the game you transform into the boss that killed you the most and go and fight another player and try and stop them from beating your dungeon
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>>285446408
The PR has been riding it. But Dark souls was never created with that in mind. It wasn't made to be a "LOL SUPERHARD GAME". It's just a game. People say it's hard but it's really not.
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>>285446463
> it sure as fuck wasn't braindead easy
you probably just suck, anon, or you're very very slow (as in very stupid). one of your brethren just said it was meant to be piss-easy

>>285446136
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>>285446408
>Namco likes to heavily market the difficulty aspect
News at 11.

Miyazaki himself stated in multiple interviews that the difficulty was never the ultimate point, but rather a means of making the player feel more involved in the world.
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>>285446637
I own every AC game except the original, played chromehounds before it died, even own ACE2, 3, and shadow tower abyss. Bought every next gen AC game, DeS, DaS, and DaS2 on day one. Fuck you asshole.
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>>285439687
Because Demon's Souls and Dark Souls were both excellent games, directed by Miyazaki. This game is also directed by Miyazaki. Dark Souls II was trash, and not directed by Miyazaki. So yes, I am excited for Bloodborne, a title in a long established, well regarded franchise made by the original director. The same way I'm looking forward to Metal Gear Solid V, a title in a long established, well regarded franchise made by the original director.

>>285446408
>advertisement campaign
Namco's doing, not From Software's or Miyazaki's.

>named "PREPARE TO DIE! EDITION"
Namco's doing, not From Software's or Miyazaki's.

>DSII has with a world death counter that is totally irrelevant to your personal playthrough but nonetheless there to show you how "hard" this game is!
Completely different development team and director. Not relevant to this thread at all.
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>>285443467
>>285444282
Wow, nice opinion blog! Subscribed ;)
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>>285446935
Platinumed DeS and 100% DeS and DeS2 on PC
Talk to me once you played the demo :^)
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I knew this would happen. This is what happens with all developers. The series becomes more popular, and so they have to start catering to the lowest denominator. That's how it works. From was no exception. You guys should have known.

If they were really trying to create a genuinely good game, it wouldn't be a PS4 exclusive and they wouldn't even be considering making the game easier. They're just like every other developer now, in the sense that their games are now always going to be held back by business decisions that they have to make for various reasons.
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>>285439246
>"our games are known for being hard."
>"we aim for the core audience by making our games challenging"

...
...
...
>“The way in which we’re making the game? The sense of punishment is much less.”

That does it, I can't take the false claims and bullshots anymore. Fucking dropped.
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THEY SAID THE EXACT SAME THING ABOUT DS2

IGNORE PC SHITPOSTERS
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The reason I like DaS better than DeS and DaS2 is that it doesn't have soul memory or world tendency or non-respawning enemies which apply permanent punishment to poor performance or not knowing what you can't learn in one playthrough. Just a straight up moderate progression loss.
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Glad I seen this thread I had a PS4 in my Amazon cart. Fuck this shit
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>>285439246

Oh wow, that sure is something. It's too bad they said literally the opposite thing dozens of times in other sources.

There are several times in the IGN videos in which devs say "The level of challenge will be similar to demon souls"

So fuck off with your Journos.
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>>285446915
>The PR has been riding it. But Dark souls was never created with that in mind. It wasn't made to be a "LOL SUPERHARD GAME"
According to you this is acceptable, and convincing me that any of the word vomit that you spew contradicting itself ON THE SAME POST, somehow makes any sense.. please backpedal harder, it may start working any second now.. (sarcasm)
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oh boy ANOTHER bloodborne thread

at what point does a topic need to be moved over to /vg/

this is a little ridiculous
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>>285442681
Dark Souls is terrible shit post Lord Vessel. DeS is good all the way through.
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>>285447524
No, they said from day one it would be less punishing.
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>>285447631

Souls general covers BB discussion, it's just not as fun to fish in that pond as it is on /v/ because they're mostly discussing the games actually released and already playable.
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>>285447320
>THEY LIED BEFORE, THAT'S MY EXCUSE TO DEFEND THIS. LYING IS OK!!
>DON'T LISTEN TO YOUR FELLOW GAMERS, ITS' OK WHEN DEVS LIE!!
your moral compass is all sorts of fucked up, anon..
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>>285447320
>THEY SAID THE EXACT SAME THING ABOUT DS2
Yeah, and look how it turned out. A game with maybe 1/4th the replay value of DaS1. DaS1 is literally going to go down in gaming history. DaS2 will be forgotten. What do you think is gonna happen with Bloodborne?
>IGNORE PC SHITPOSTERS
Name a time a game has been improved by being a console exclusive. All console exclusivity does is force you to use a specific controller, and it makes you buy a $400 special piece of hardware to play the game. It's fucking stupid. I guess you don't care about gaming, you only care about supporting Sony.
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>>285447868
You a stupid nigga
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>>285448054
>A game with maybe 1/4th the replay value of DaS1.
I've never seen a statement this wrong.
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>>285448054
>>285447986
Thanks for proving that this threads consists of the same 2 bitter petitionfags
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>>285448346
>prove a console fag wrong
>thanks for proving my point :^)
I would seriously kill myself if I had to feel like I had a special toy other people weren't allowed to play with lol
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>>285448187
But please, now start screaming about downgrades. Or better yet, just start using those pastas full of lies about the length of the game and the number of items in it.
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>>285439246
I wonder what Alt-/v/ is like in the universe where it was released on the PC and every next gen console but the WiiU.

I imagine it's just Bloodborne hype threads 24/7.
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>being hyped for a game by From "PC version is the lead platform" Software
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>>285448054
>Name a time a game has been improved by being a console exclusive.

The game wouldn't exist without Sony.
Just like Bayonetta 2 wouldn't exist without Nintendo.

These are improvements over the PC versions which....well, will never ever exist.
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In all honesty, they're losing millions by making it an exclusive for a dying platform, so they have to make up the loses somehow. Making it for "wider audiences" is the only logical solution.
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>>285448606
>dying
roflcopter
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>>285448606
not wide enough for pc obviously, stay mad cuck
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>>285448426
>literally posts containing nothing but whining
>haha! proved you wrong consolefag!

Consider getting a job to go full idort, because otherwise your opinion is 100% worthless
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>>285448054
>Name a time a game has been improved by being a console exclusive.
The Order 1886 because only one platform's population was at risk of buying it.
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>>285448346
>Thanks for proving that this threads consists of the same 2 bitter petitionfags
It says 43 posters on the lower right corner of the page. You're so pathetic and grasping at straws just because you got rekt.
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This article came out in August and has been contradicted by other From statements since. Even then, they said literally the exact same thing about Dark Souls and DaS2 and both were harder than DeS
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He said they were skirting the line between disappointing the hardcore and getting it more mainstream.

If that means getting rid of shit that is hard just for the sake of being hard then what's wrong?
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>wider audience
>platform exclusive

these retards never cease to amaze me
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I see your shitty blog post and raise you some statistics:

>At PAX Prime 3,500 people tried the demo, and only 20 managed to kill the Cleric Beast at the end. Moving forward to Tokyo Game Show, things went a little better, with 1,250 attempts across the four days and about 40 victories.

But please, keep shit posting based on a single fucking quote from a dev saying they're trying to make a game more accessible. Continue to falsely equate accessibility with lower difficulty. Continue to ignore the fact that WE HAD THIS SAME FUCKING ARGUMENT FOR DS2 AND ALL THEY DID TO HELP WITH ACCESSIBILITY WAS MAKE BETTER MENUS AND A TUTORIAL.
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>>285448930
Here's another fact
People died in Shadow of Moordor
Pretty crazy if you think about it
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>>285447184
How long did it take you to git pure bladestone
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>>285448679
whats the home turf of the ps4? japan. sorry to break it to you anon, but consoles are dead in japan.

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/04/12/console-gaming-is-dead-in-japan.aspx
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>>285439246
Anybody else getting incredibly long captchas that are hard to read? I had to reload like five times to get one that was semi-legible.

God fucking damn I hate Google.
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>>285439246
>new souls aiming for a wider audience
>mfw never gave a fuck for souls games and their "atmosphere"
>mfw from cucks in despair
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>>285448930
Well, if the people at these conventions had as much time as the people at gamescom last year, this is not that suprising. You had like 5 minutes, and everytime you died the game had to load for 1 minute, and my friends version crashed halfway through.
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>>285448563
Your argument is basically that I should just accept it, I should just be ok with spending $460 to play certain "special" games. As if these games are just so good that they're worth that much money. Which is funny because console exclusives sucked for the duration of gen 7 and there hasn't really been a good one in gen 8 yet.

>>285448786
>>literally posts containing nothing but whining
>>haha! proved you wrong consolefag!
Cute way to spin it after getting proven wrong. "THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN ;_;" lol
>Consider getting a job to go full idort, because otherwise your opinion is 100% worthless
People who don't agree with you don't have jobs and their opinions are worthless. Keep telling yourself that you dumb little fuck. lol
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>>285449289
That article is from August 2014. Nobody gives a fuck about it anymore since a million videos have come out since then.
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>>285442186
Oh look the same retarded angry faggot who was posting his anti demon shit post.
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>>285449184
you sound retarded
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>>285449465
Well since they obviously aren't that good, you can go without playing them.
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>>285444821
Look at the Alpha gameplay and compare it to the Burg in DaS.


Don't tell me they're slower than the fucking hollows in the Burg, because they're not. The hollows that rekt so many players in the Burg have the most telegraphed attacks in the game, besides maybe the mushroom men.
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>>285449465
Getting a job is not that difficult if you look acceptable and have skills anon, you do have both of these things, right?
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>>285449549
Pure autism.
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>>285448930
>no no no, bloodborne is very hard!!

>>285446136
>no no no, bloodborne is supposed to be very easy!!

Honestly, you shillfags need to get together and agree on a single shillstrategy instead of embarrassing yourselves this hard on the same thread. Maybe make a memo to pass around amongst your other fellow shills so they don't also screw up this badly.
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>>285446497

Not him, but fuck off.

>Smoother gatlings.
>Ultras not gay as fuck, DBS/Cleaver standing even today as the finest ultras in the series.
>Mashing roll prevents BS damage for minimal faggotry
>Parry timing and hitbox window slightly more intuitive, further from impact.
>Minimal phantom range except on a few attacks, where it was always predictable and not the random shitshow of phantom range found in DkS1/2.
>SC is still sorely missed.
>Faggotry Triforce of Poise, DWGR, and DeS-styled BS in DkS literally shit all over the game.

The biggest thing was the community was better. Halfway through the life cycle nobody grassed or kept grass to a 3 maximum, even if they've never dueled before. During my whole tenure in DkS/DeS it was the fucking opposite... Only finding the occasional vet that wasn't a faggot. In DkS it was nonstop gank squad estus/humanity chug faggotry. Not to say I expected people to play by gay ass house rules, but in DeS people did for the most part because it was fun as fuck instead of every duel degenerating into some pussy game of hide abd seek while your opponent runs off to chug estus.
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>only 15 mustard are assflustered enough to sign this petition

I'm actually suprised.
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>>285449465
>Your argument is basically that I should just accept it, I should just be ok with spending $460 to play certain "special" games.

Sorry, that's reality. I can't force you to accept reality, but you really should stop being angry because you're never getting a PC port.

Look, you are getting Scholar of the First Sin. From didn't forget about you, they just don't think it's worth putting their Magnum Opus on the backlog platform.
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>>285449772
How can someone post so much bullshit without being able to read properly?
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>>285449786
Also, Land of the Giants was left out instead of being put in as a half-assed obviously rushed area.
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Wait so people are back on this, "DS is hard." meme? The game is unforgiving and doesn't hold the player's hand, it's not difficult.
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>>285449772
You should probably learn how to read before you shitpost.
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>>285449549
>>285450225
>>285450340
Is that Dilbert starved for games?
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>>285439246

Threads like this always come across super whiney and make entire fanbases sound like spoiled children; >see Mass Effect 3 endings

Instead of complaining that future games won't be as good as their previous installments, you can, oh I don't know, GO BACK AND STILL PLAY DARK/DEMONS SOULS. The games didn't dissappear, and they are still there and still fun. They were good experiences, and all had their own strengths and weaknesses.

Please don't turn every "good" or "fun" franchise into fucking Call of Duty. The last thing we need is more cookie cutter rehashed dog shit flying around. Let them make original and new concepts for you to try - change is inevitable.
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>>285450140

It never went away, at least not with marketing men.
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>>285450632
Well, I wouldn't say Demon's Souls is still here. Online is pretty much dead. Dark is still thriving though.
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>>285450225
What exactly is this comic trying to say? Is Sony the rat? Or is the rat a PCfag?

What is going on with the captcha?
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>>285450225
>>285450340
shillfag so buttdevastated about losing every single argument he's now frustrated and mashing the post button multiple times
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>>285451434
He's actually going and changing the filetype so he can post it again, which is even more hilarious.
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>>285439687
Lol, this is the past where I call you an elitist faggot. DaS2 >>>>> Other souls games.
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>>285449674
you sound upset anon. did you read something that your eyes weren't meant to see?

http://venturebeat.com/community/2014/08/02/console-gaming-is-approaching-an-evolutionary-dead-end/
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>>285451896
Not him, but if you're implying a home country market matters in an international business you've got some learning to do.
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>>285451896
consoles are dead in japan because the normalfags over there are all moving over to smartphone shit
not sure how people still aren't aware of that
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>>285452186
If the home turf of the console i was shilling was dead, I would be a little concerned..

http://www.vg247.com/2013/01/14/walking-dead-is-this-really-the-last-console-generation/
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>tfw you're PS4 Master Race and can't wait for Bloodborne to come out and all the jealous asspained shitposting serves as your entertainment leading up to the release

Holy fuck I love being me.
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>STILL NOTHING ABOUT MULTIPLAYER
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GOD DAMMIT FROM LET US KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO FOR FUN FUCKING GOD DAMMIT
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>>285453302
Bonfires are lamps.

Watch the first 18 minutes.
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>>285452639
>january 2013
lmao
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>>285453302
PVP is already confirmed.

When you beat the game, you transform into the boss that killed you the most and invade a random player's world and try to stop them from beating the level

when you play the game the first time you have no way of knowing if the boss you are a fighting is a player or not
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>>285453302

Bonfires were replace with lamps and a hub
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>>285453302
>implying Based Miyazaki wants all of the secrets out early

You won't know about PVP until some random bloke invades your world and shivs you.
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>>285453302
Lanterns are bonfires
There is 4 player co-op
PVP is confirmed, but we don't know in what form
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There's no way that Bloodborne will have soul memory.... right?
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>>285453027
>PS4 Master Race
Oh yes, the "PS4 Master Race" that needs to bribe studios for exclusives to force people to buy their consoles, otherwise nobody would buy that horrendously shitty hardware of it's own merit alone
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>>285453681
I think it'll have regenerating health for the CoD audience
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>>285439246
The game is like right around the corner, who in their right mind would want to make the developers tweak and polish it more than they already have to?
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>>285439246
So now it's a game no one wants?
Guess those NEVER EVER fags were right, but now they don't want it either.
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>>285453571
That's a pretty nice theory, actually, but then there's always the guy who'd stand there and do nothing to let the players win, or even the occasional afk. People aren't often as reliable as computers.
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>>285453302
>bonfires

Pretty sure they're going to be lamp posts now (IGN 18 min video), and probably only serve as teleporting to different areas/back to the dream hub world instead of being a HP restore.

I could be wrong.

>Multiplayer
They've said there is Player vs Player, and we already know how summoning works from the Alpha.

I hope original darkwraith type invading is still available. There's also speculation that a gravelord covenant will be available, but the "gravelord" will turn into a beast whenever someone invades his world to rid the curse or whatever. That's all speculation from a development monitor shown in an IGN video.
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>>285453445
isn't kojima your dude? he predicted it since 2010

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/04/07/us-japan-kojima-idUSTRE6362GF20100407
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>>285439246
>make a game easier even though the whole appeal of the Souls games was the high difficulty
Fucking Christ these japs are complete idiots.
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hi

i am one of the beta testers at Sony Europe. I had a chance to beta test bloodborne and recently we've been testing online functionality to make sure the servers are ready for launch

basically when you open yourself up for co-op there is no friendly fire so the pvp is basically you needing to trust your partner not to kill you when you least suspect it

it sounds lame i know but i think it will make co-op more of a trust thing than before
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>tfw jealous angry shitposters make you smile because you get to enjoy things they aren't allowed to enjoy
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>>285453571

>everyone's Ornstein week 1

When you boss are you THE boss of the map or just a black phantom model roaming the map?
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>>285453917
I want consoles to fuck off as much as the next guy but seeing as how the ps4 has more than likely cleared 20m units in just over a year I don't think they're going anywhere soon
Yeah ok we fucking get it they're dead in japan, doesn't mean everywhere else isn't buying them
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>>285453808
What does that have to do with what he asked at all?
I feel like the people trying to take potshots at BB are just random bandwagoners.
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>>285453979
Do you have any proof that you're a beta tester?
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>>285453994
>tfw game-starved From shills delude themselves into thinking others envy starvation

BB confirmed best game ever: hunger makes the best seasoning
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>>285453979
>basically when you open yourself up for co-op there is no friendly fire so the pvp is basically you needing to trust your partner not to kill you when you least suspect it
>there is no friendly fire
>trust your partner not to kill you when you least suspect it
You're giving me mixed signals here
Just because you're a beta tester doesn't mean you have to type like a dumb.
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>>285453681

It has insight brah. PvP based on how far into the game you are as opposed to souls recieced
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>>285453979
But this wasn't true in the alpha
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>>285453979
I don't think anyone is doubting pvp they just want the details.
>bloodborne
>a game about hunting other things
>no pvp
nice try fag.
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>>285454569

Is that what that is? That could work well, would've definitely stop zapzwei twinkers from farming depths and fpstown on first timers/early games.
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>>285454927
It's only a theory as the player gained 1 insight at encountering the Darkbeast Paarl boss, no one actually knows yet
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well?
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>>285455161
apply yourself
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>>285454171
>the ps4 has more than likely cleared 20m units
..except it hasn't. also, its only sold a pittance of what the ps2 sold. also, enthusiasm for it already waned. since they just sit there collecting dust, and those numbers are not likely to increase. it's also barely above the xboxone, so if you're going to say the ps4 is a success story you might as well start saying the same for the xbone. in all honesty though, shit's a failure.
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>>285455161
Why do people even waste their time making these things?

Even fapping would be a better application of someone's time.
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>console petition peasants
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>>285455410
Getting replies on 4chan is like a drug. That red clover man
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>>285455351
>>285455410
sony shills pls go
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>>285453905
>I hope original darkwraith type invading is still available

I would imagine it would be. You can invade like that in Demons, and the devs keep regurgitating the "Bloodborne is Demon Souls 2" thing in videos over and over.

If it isn't, I would be sorely disappointed. The game will still be awesome but lack of random invasions or AT LEAST duels would be shitty. I doubt they wouldn't include it, seeing as how much the mechanic is loved.
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>>285455372

If the PS4 is a failure what does that mean for the Xbone and Wii U? And the 90% of gaming PCs with worse specs than the PS4?
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>>285455372
>barely above the xboxone
>70% more sales is "barely above"
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>>285455605
I'm just saying, if you're gonna shitpost on the game, at least use the things that are actually a problem. FPS drops, 720p, shit like that.
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>>285455721
>replying
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>>285455372
Not want to sound like a drone(I don't even have a ps4) but the ps4 IS the fastest selling console of all time. It sold more than any system in the same time frame.
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>>285455783
nice to see that even sony employeers admit this stuff
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>>285439246
this...is an ironic post, isn't it? please tell me it is. nobody can be THIS retarded, even for a fucking sonygger on /v/. this CANNOT be happening.
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>>285455351
He is.
To shitposting.
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>>285455161

Too hard. Change to
>nonsensical anime weapons like whip canes and swordhammers, in the same universe where guns already exist
>terrible AI enemies with minimal and overly telegraphed attacks who'll drop pursuit if you walk out of detection range fast enough
>a terrible community who in PvP will simply use mechanical fail exploits to win fights or be useless when called upon to help the player

And don't use epic and edgy, they make it look like a fail troll attempt. You might as well post lulz cat and over 9000 memes if you do.
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>don't give a shit about Bloodbourne
>all this bellyaching over this boring-looking game
I want to gas everyone ITT
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>>285455721
>can't get people to buy consoles
>release exclusive so there's no pc version to compare it side to side
>claim console has better graphics than pc!

also...
>consoleshitters make free steam accounts with their shitty bullshit laptops they use to complain about pc gaming on /v/
>claim those are accurate numbers of all pc gamers!

How can anyone not trust deceitful shills like consolefags, am I rite?
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>>285439246
>will capture a wider audience

Rest in peace Bloodborne, the magic words have been said.
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>>285456539
>boring-looking game
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>>285455161
>amazing realistic graphics with great scenaries
>scenaries

>realistic weapons based on historic records

Was this written by a 12 year old?
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>Dark Souls: "we want a wider audience"
>people think itll be shit
>its fine

>Bloodborne: "we want a wider audience"
>BLUNDER OF THE MILLENIUM COFIRMED WHY ARENT I BEING AMBUSHED AND ONE SHOTTED BY DRAGONS 24/7
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>>285439246

fucking lmao souls for casuals:the game

finally fromsoft realized their niche autistic fanbase can't cover their lust for money, good goy!
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>>285456780
It does though: I watched gameplay footage and had a hard time caring about it.
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>>285457076
Okay.
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>>285457167
Sorry, I like faster games.
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>>285457358
Good to hear.
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>>285456539
>don't give a shit about Bloodborne
>comes in to Bloodborne thread
>boring-looking game
Never played a Souls game huh
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>>285457449
I also like whole-grain cereals
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>>285457497
Yes I came into this thread: after the billionth BB thread, I decided to lurk
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>>285457634
and shitpost too apparently
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>>285456874
>>285457042
>>285456728
Yeah, the goal should be difficulty, like DaS2. That game was great. One shot hits from Ancient Dragon were dank!
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Myakaki always said that the games were not about difficulty, but it's immersion and gameplay
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>>285455940
>bragging about how well the ps4 sold at launch
it sold well at launch because microsoft shot themselves in the foot by trying to ram that kinect b.s. down people's throats, so people automatically bought ps4 just because "it was not microsoft!". Now that all those casuals know what a piece of shit it really is with all the bricking that happened, and they're getting to experience "waiting for games", just to end up with trash like The Order 1886, don't expect those numbers to go up.
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>>285457634
I'm sure this actually is the first time you've ever posted in a BB thread.
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>>285457042
This was basically what went wrong with DS2. The community was so obsessed with making the game difficult, and the inexperienced dev team was stupid enough to try to tailor the game after what the dipshits were screaming for when they really had no idea how to make a proper souls game in the first place, regardless of how hard the game was going to be.
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>>285453769

>bribe studios for exclusives to force people to buy their consoles, otherwise nobody would buy that horrendously shitty hardware of it's own merit alone

Japan Studio co-developed Bloodborne with From, just like Demon's Souls. There was no bribe, only jolly co-operation
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>>285458092
Mentally ill, blind, hypocritical hatred for a corporation so much that you deliberately spread lies and hatred about it.
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>>285456728
This. Once the "wider audiences" line has been spoken, you know it's going to be garbage for weekend gamers.

inb4 some shill faggot answers "so.. that's totally ok, people need to work all week to pay for games!"
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>>285458273
c-team
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>>285458092
funny part is that MS has turned 360 degrees and walked away from that model and ended up solely focusing on games while the PS4 is a glorified blu-ray player
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>>285458361
>deliberately spread lies and hatred about it.
Are you implying that the whole internet was lying about all the bullshit people had to deal with when the ps4 launched? all the bricking, wabbling, and services not working? it was a fucking disaster!

I even remember some guys who got electric shocks every time they touched it.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/playstation-discussion-1000002/anyone-else-getting-shocked-by-their-ps4-eject-but-31015901/
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>>285458095
>argument from incredulity
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Every time Miyazaki has been asked about the difficulty of his games, he's always stated that they're not about difficulty or punishment, but about challenge and accomplishment.

The former are merely indicative of the latter, notice that in all of Bloodborne's previews ''difficulty'' is barely mentioned, challenge is what they're selling. This is how based Miyazaki and Yamagiwa are.
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>>285459629
>that face

This is what B Team Souls was missing, atmosphere and amazing boss design. Between this and Gascoign i'm ready to forgive From for all the Dudes in Armor.
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>>285460018
You don't have to forgive them for anything. B Team might as well have been from a different studio.
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>>285451896
It's sad that it had to come to this.
I never thought Japan could be the land of the casuals but they are.

The PS2 sold 20 million in Japan
PS3 8 million (200k short from 9 million, and was also beaten by the 3DS)

And the PS4 is on its way to perform worse in Japan.

It's funny that FFXV depends more on western sales than its Japanese sells (despite it being the most hyped game over there).
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>>285459629
>pretty much dark souls II with sickdark skins
>it's those gigant dog skelletons from tomb of giants except it has electricity around it
>it's the strong spinning attack with a polearm
I don't understand how fanboys don't think they're going to get sick of "ds2 for casuals with emo sickdark skin" in less than a week.
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>>285439246

Fuck this I'm out

>a bloo bloo bloo but souls isn't hard I am super hard ore gamer and only play hardcore japanese shooters. If I lose a life, I hang myself.

It had a sense of challenge and punished your for fucking up. If that's not here, there's no reason for it to exist.
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>>285460946
So having to kill the enemy that killed you to get your blood back isn't punishing?
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>>285459629
>get swiped by giant skeletal hand
>healthbar barely moves
wow... I guess Op was right after all.
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>>285460535

>FFXV depends more on western sales than its Japanese sell

Exactly why it's an action game now. And why jap games are getting released on PC now
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>>285461257

He's fucking bones dude.
If a skinny guy punches you you aren't gonna feel anything, you should know that.
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>>285459629
I fucking love everything about the design of this boss.
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>>285460661
>sickdark skins
Nice meme
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