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What the fuck happened to the Advance Wars IP? it's been

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What the fuck happened to the Advance Wars IP? it's been what, 7 years since Days of Ruin? (which sucked shit by the way) but still it was a good series!

Did they just fucking drop it?
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>>285336041
Just about. For some reason it took five years for Japan to get it
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>>285336041
Days of Ruin was the best in the series you hack.
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Waifu Wars series sold more, so gets the games.
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I don't know but I'm pissed. Fire Emblem is such a piece of shit series, AW should destroy it, if people had taste
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>>285336636
IKR? shit's got me steamed.

I never did like fire emblem
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>tfw Advance Wars SNES came out in 1998
Why even bother by that stage
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>>285336397
No, it was edgy, dark shit with a weeb soap opera theme, I'm all for a gritty AW title, but in the sense of the combat being violent/gory not just a grey setting with "omg!!! wut do we do!?! is the end o tha wurld!!!!11111oneoneone
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>>285336041
>Days of Ruin
>sucked shit

nope
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>>285336041

>tfw playing Dual Strike for the first time right now

I never thought I will like a game only for nintendo consoles that much
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>>285337731
I just wish the difficulty wasn't intensely absurdly fucking unforgivingly high in the later stages but hey, that's been the theme since Black Hole Rising.

>(tfw I have never beaten an AW game after AW1)
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>>285338131
Same, bro. I enjoy challenges, but those games are so difficult they leave the strategy genre and start to become puzzle games.
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>>285337310
>playing advance wars for the story/setting
Seriously?
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>>285336041

people prefer fire emblem over advance wars
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>>285339795
>not playing AW for the god-tier plot, music, graphics and gameplay
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>>285337310
>"omg!!! wut do we do!?! is the end o tha wurld!!!!11111oneoneone
It's cringeworthy when kids try this hard.
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>>285337008
>>285336636
>not liking both
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It's shelved for the time being. I wouldn't be surprised if we finally got a new game after STEAM releases.
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>>285336041
>its not mario
>its not zelda
[x]dropped
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Also, proper AW RTS or Battlefield clone BW3 when?

>>285336636
The only thing they have in common is the perspective.
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>>285336041

It didn't sell well and most of its fans didn't support the series and just pirated the games.
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>>285336041
days of ruin was the best AW you faggot
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>>285337310
>"omg!!! wut do we do!?! is the end o tha wurld!!!!11111oneoneone
Christ dude, calm down. Don't you think it's a little hypocritical to call DoR edgy dark shit and in the same breath say that gory combat would be a welcome change?

It was just a more serious game than the other ones, wherein stuff you'd expect to happen in war actually happens, like more than just nameless mooks dying, everything not being super bright and colorful, people outside the battles actually being effected by the fuck tons of fighting going on, etc.
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>>285337310
DoR isn't even edgy.
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>>285339775

Well the more demanding the strategy game becomes the more puzzle-like it's going to end up.

If they aren't harsh they'll just end up with a game where you can win no matter what you do. Not that it matters anymore since the series is on probably permament hiatus.

I'm looking forward to codename: S.T.E.A.M though, seems like a pretty good replacment since while it's character based they don't level up. So it's somewhere between Fire Emblem, Advance Wars and Valkyria Chronicles.
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>>285336041
It was murdered by waifu loving developers.

How do we kill them, /v/ ?

We need a reboot, ala days of ruin style but with the actual cast.
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>>285336041
>Days of Ruin? (which sucked shit by the way)

oh no, better gameplay, better unit balance, change of pace compared to the rest of the series! someone please stop this horror!
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post music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y_8Y0hJ4eY&index=1&list=PLMaUPHADtpTpzup_h3fNz8tgNCAgatBns
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>>285344079
More than anything else I just found the characters a bit too dull/one-note. I actually dug the setting, even if it was more generic overall I suppose. The gameplay was good enough but the story failed to retain my interest (I am talking about the NA translation and not the EU translation, before someone brings that up) The lack of other single player features like the War Room didn't help.

Also last I checked the multiplayer for the game was still incredibly unbalanced despite the smaller cast and all that? Guys like Waylon and the navy guy being ass and Cauler being OP, or something like that.
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I like to think I speak for everyone when I say that DoR was one of the better games in the franchise.
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>>285340763
>It didn't sell well

Bullshit
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>>285344830
>Caulder being OP

that's like complaining that Sturm was OP in AW2

and DoR has nothing like Grit or fucking Colin, or even Hachi

>I don't like the characters and the story
as if the story in the previous games was anything remotely relevant

the characters being worse I can understand though, even if I disagree

and in any case, DoR rewarded good play, you could destroy the CO unit to neutralize the CO power/zone, and you leveled your own units, as opposed to the previous games giving double the CO power to the guy losing units
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>>285345042
>one of the better games
>one of the better
>DoR
Nigga please, that fucking shit was by far the best game in the series.
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>>285336041
ITT: It's okay to change the style and the gameplay of a franchise if I like it

Bunch of hypocrites
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>>285336496

This

modern audiences like breeding and shipping anime people more than roleplaying and tactics.

>there will never be a Battalion Wars 3
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>>285336636
>>285337008

holy shit didn't know AW fans were such bottom-bitches. This just makes FE's success even sweeter.
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>>285345042
The gameplay changes didn't require a change in style, also there was nothing to do in DoR other than the campaign meanwhile the older games had way more content
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>>285344830
>(I am talking about the NA translation and not the EU translation, before someone brings that up)
the EU translation is more boring actually.
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>>285345770
it didn't go look it up

if it had sold well you'd be getting more games.
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>>285344079
>better unit balance

fuck off
AW being broken and those crazy CO power were the best part

>BAWW EVERYTHING MUST BE BALANCED AND BE TURNED INTO TOURNEYFAGGOTRY
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>>285345042
it had the best OST
it had the best story (this isnt saying much, but it was great)

But the gameplay was a lot more tedious and boring: siege cannons OP as fuck, absurd rise of the infantry cost to 1500, powers being meaningless, missions designed to be played for 60+ turns...

overall it was a great game but it's still the advance wars I had the less fun with.
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>>285345803
I used story and characters interchangebly there, the game failed to retain my interest because the characters were mostly uninteresting for me is what I meant.

Like I said, if the game had a War Room mode then maybe I'd like it more. I can't remember if the story battles in DoR were just blandly designed or something but I wasn't having fun, and in the older games I got the most fun out playing the harder War Room maps.

I'd be all for a DoR sequel with a War Room and more everything.

>>285346203
I will play the Battalion Wars series some day, shit looks fun.

>>285346391
I know, that's why I mentioned that I played the NA translation and still found it kinda dull.
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>>285346549
>liking balance means you're a tourneyfag

I want baddies to fuck off of /v/
which would leave me and ~10 other people to post here, tops
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>>285341912
>codename STEAM

>Wanting more shit tier steam punk garbage in vidya

anon pls
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>>285346549
>AW being broken and those crazy CO power were the best part

you sound pretty hysterical. the balances fixes were great. i dislike the grimdark setting and would have preferred it kept the happier style. but stop getting mad at shit which was good for the series.

if you want to be a child and just watch stuff blow up go play call of duty
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>>285345042
I liked the CO power balancing and all, but fuck, it sucked all the charm from the series, which was a big part of why I was playing it

Never mind the characters looks, those were okay, but fuck those awful looking units
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>>285346549
I agree with you. Fuck those guys, I'm playing this game to wreck or get wrecked, not to stall forever in a balanced nightmare
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>>285346203
y-y-you mean I wasn't the only person that thought Battalion Wars 2 was fun as fuck?

Not BW1 though, fuck that game.
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>>285346632
did you try the tactics conversations?
It doesn't really affect the overall story but it'll improve your view of the characters. They're pretty funny and interesting.
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I wouldn't be so salty about losing AW if they didn't turn FE into a retarded unfun mess, too.
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>>285346632
Most war room maps were unplayable due to taking 2 hours to beat. E.g. that Sensei map or the Sonja map where you have to stage an amphibious landing.
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>>285346891
who on earth could hate battalion wars 2? it was the best online game of the wii.
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>>285346558
>it had the best story

Yeah, that generic mish mash of cliches and generic looking characters was the best

>>285346668

>complains about balance
>calls other baddies

Git gud, or go back to rock-paper-scissors faggot
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Fuck the noise, post your favorite CO and units.

Dusters from DoR were awesome, shame we never got to use them with the old COs.
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>>285341912
I dunno anything about S.T.E.A.M but
>So it's somewhere between Fire Emblem, Advance Wars and Valkyria Chronicles.
None of these games are similar, how does that work? VC (atleast the first one anyway, dunno about the others) is a pretty simplistic and linear-in-approach SRPG and FE is just straight up bad gameplay-wise, which makes it sound even weirder.
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>>285346784
>le go back to call of duty meme

Nice argument
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>>285344830
Where the hell have you been? DoR has by far the best balance and game mechanics among all the advance wars games + AWBW.
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>>285346632

Battalion Wars 1 and 2 were great, and phenomenally overlooked. Play them soon if you can.

>>285346891

>Not BW1 though, fuck that game

ur gay
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>>285347215
light tank.
Nothing more satisfying than seeing the little guys wreck up the big ones.

Also green earth is based in general, though my second favorite would be the kamikaze of DS
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>>285336305
Really? That's strange considering the series originated in Japan under the name Famicom Wars.
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>>285347104
>disliking balance
>not being a casual shitstain
pick 1, and only 1

multiple viable strategies means you can adapt and be creative

an overcentralizing metagame with such obvious cost-effective units makes the games get stale and repeat themselves

but of course, you don't know half of these terms, because you're a fucking casual shitstain
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>>285347215
nazi orange Vader

>120/120
>1 movement in any terrain

jesus christ

>Meteor Strike
oh god


favorite unit... probably DoR Battleships
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>>285347656
It's funny, it was japan exclusive until it got to the gba, then it was released in the west first from then on.
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>>285336636
>>285337008
>not liking both games
>being salty faggots

Advance Wars should stay dead if you guys are gonna be fags about it.
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I really want someone to buy the IP off of Nintendo. Not even hating on Nintendo or anything but I fucking love this series and the IP has just been wasting away unused for a while now.

AW and FE aren't really similar at all either, I dunno why people keep telling me to play FE instead since it's "replaced AW" apparantly.
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>>285346879
You realize part of the problem of earlier advance wars games was that they stalemated too easily, right? There is no problem of "stalling forever" in DoR.
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>>285347730

You see, my little autistic friend, the point is that AW didn't need it.
If you want to play a balanced game there are many other games that offer that.
That's what I do when I want a balanced game, unlike you that expect the entire world to adapt to your narrow minded views.

Now keep posting dogs and trying to act superior, you fucking retard.
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>people defending the DmC of the AW series

woah, so this is the power of being born in the late 90's
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>>285347215
>dusters
>13000c for an air unit that doesn't damage to nothing but infantry, and even helicopters are better against infantry
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>>285336041
>([Days of Ruin] sucked shit by the way)
You don't deserve a new game.
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>>285347649
Light tanks are so based. I expect them to get wrecked hard later in the game but then they turn around and kill the shit out of a medium tank.
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>>285348220
some maps did stall, but I had it happen a lot more in DoR. The artillery no man's land hasn't been fixed at all.
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>we got Codename STEAM instead of a new Advance Wars
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>>285348378
isn't it because it's more "balanced"?
I can see that, I guess. DmC just butchered the gameplay from the old games.
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>>285346891
>liking battalion wars 2 but not 1

So I guess you value linear levels more than open levels in a strategy game?
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>>285336041
>Days of Ruin? (which sucked shit by the way)
You dumb nigger. Shit taste like that is why AW is dead.
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>>285338131
You're kidding, right? AW1 is the hardest of the four. 2 and Dual Strike are each progressively easier.
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>>285348596
>people still claim DoR didn't kill the franchise
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>>285348772
AW is dead because they pulled a Bomberman Zero on the fanbase
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>>285348596

I heard the Steam demo was buggy but pretty good.
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>>285348596
What's wrong with Codename STEAM? The demo was pretty solid.
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>>285349107
Have you even looked at the game? It's utter trash with an awful setting.
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>>285348576
I'm surprised you know about the mass arty problem but still think DoR is the game that stalemates more. There are a few reasons why DoR is much better off:

>damage formula change weakens infantry meatshield
>b copters more powerful, leading to more diverse armies and more weaknesses in a defensive line
>co powers that reward offense instead of defense
>co unit which can act as an offensive spearhead/wallbreaker
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>>285349104
Actually they were aliens.
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>>285348263
>if you have good taste and aren't retarded then you're autistic!

you like being overpowered, and that is fine, just don't be surprised when people with actual taste call you off on your bullshit

using Hachi's CO Power and getting double the amount of Neo Tanks and then switching COs to Kanbei and steamrolling over the AI gets old fast for non-simpleminded people

for the single player it's usually fine because lots of missions are near bullshit and the AI sees through fog, but in the war room in general and PVP then it's shit

here's a cat, I like cats too
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>>285347994
>requires no actual strategy beyond memorizing some unit placement on maps at most
>so much RNG in every gameplay aspect that any more of it would basically turn the game into Unlimited Saga
They should just turn the Fire Emblem into a Visual Novel franchise. I doubt most of it's fans would mind.
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>>285348418
I like the increased movement and the better defenses of the duster for turtle situations. Copters can get hit by tanks and the like but dusters are planes and not copters so much less can hit them.
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>>285336041

>which sucked shit by the way
It was different to hte previous games, that doesn't make it bad. For one thing it had actual balance.
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>>285347238

It's a character based(Fire Emblem) with no level ups(Advance Wars) grid based(Fire Emblem/Advance Wars) with shooter mechanics(Valkyria Chronicles) and squad based(Valkyria Chronicles).

You should play the demo if you have a 3DS because it's really good in my opinion.
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>>285348969
The game was hardly given a chance, really. Nintendo never even tried giving it a proper Japanese release.
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>>285346291
FE is just too shallow of a game. RNG for hits/crits is such a dumb game mechanic anyways.
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>>285336041

The devs are the same ones who develop Fire Emblem. They've been focusing on that lately.
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"WHY DON'T YOU LIKE ME, /v/?"
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>>285349187
>Have you even looked at the game?

He said he's played the demo. Maybe you should spend less time looking and actual play and analyse the gameplay yourself, it's a sold SPRG.
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>>285336041
Fire Emblem
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>>285349334
>requires no actual strategy beyond memorizing some unit placement on maps at most
>so much RNG in every gameplay aspect that any more of it would basically turn the game into Unlimited Saga

Have you ever played a turn based strategy other than the Wars series before? Unit placement and RNG are staples of the fucking genre.
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>>285349846
>SPRG

A what?
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>>285349846
>playing shit games
Maybe you should choose to spend your time more wisely.

>srpg
what? It's tactical shit.
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>Watch a trailer for this TPS steamfag alien shooter PoS

God fucking damn you Intelligent Systems fuck you.

I hope this fucking garbage tanks.

I'm really starting to lose faith in video games...
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>>285347994
>>285346291
I'm not mad at them, exactly. If anything, I pity them, since if you only count the good entries, their drought has been going even longer than ours.
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>>285345770
They had to cancel the japanese release of DoR. That should tell you why AW isn't that popular.
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>>285350017
Not knocking the presence of having to acknowledge unit placement (which would be ridiculous), I'm saying that it's the only element of strategy those games tend to have.

FE has too much RNG. Fucking character stat growth is dependant on RNG, the series creators even admit that they savescum their characters into growing in a specific way.
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>>285349796
I like you, game. I always put off buying your remake. Also Daisenryaku.
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>>285346675
Did you play the demo? That honestly made me more excited than anything. You really notice the mechanics when you replay the missions with a full squad.
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>>285350339
>This denial

Most Fire Emblem fans actually enjoyed almost every entry that came out in the west and Awakening has brought in more new players than Advance Wars ever had players.

But I guess you can be happy with Advance Wars on hiatus due to lack of interest. Fire Emblem If was the big reveal of the last Nintendo Direct for a reason you know?
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http://web.archive.org/web/20120426182037/http://www.edge-online.com/features/making-advance-wars?page=2

>But for SRPGs, you’ve got to know the rules before you start. So, with Advance Wars, even though there wasn’t a plan to release it outside Japan, we made it really easy to play. We put a really good tutorial in, so people didn’t need to read the manual. And when the US marketing people played it they came to us and said: ‘But this is great! Why can’t we sell it over here?’ And it seems that Advance Wars’ success shifted Nintendo’s attitude over western tastes.” Nishimura, who also worked as director on Fire Emblem, makes it clear that game would never have been released in the west had AW not paved the way.

Advance Wars lead the way for FE in America by showing IS that people would play a Nintendo strategy game, and now FE's left AW dying in a ditch. rip in peace
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>>285346203
>>285346891
BW2 sucked dicks because it tried to be Pikmin: Army Edition and failed hard. It should've just be a straight up RTS.
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>>285347215
>Best army-wide stats among the balanced COs
>Most well-rounded army composition
>Best heavy tanks
>Midriff

Why is she so based?
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>>285341912
codename steam just feels like a watered down VR.

since the 3ds has crap hardware, the maps arent big which means you can barely move anywhere on your turn and it takes forever for them to move

dunno why theyre banking on a new ip rather than just bringing back AW.
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>2011+4
>wanting a new Advance Wars
Seriously, after Sticker Star, Awakening, and now S.T.E.A.M., we're all better off with Intelligent Systems keeping their filthy hands off that series.
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>>285350894
I have to give her huge credit for actually executing a villain instead of being a moralfag piece of shit like her BFF.
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>>285350959
>blaming Intellignet Systems for how shit Sticker Star is
>not Miyamoto who made them dumb down the game because he thought it was too complex for a Mario game
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>>285346203
why not just add waifus in AW?
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>>285350894
her co power sucks so meh

>>285351262
this i wouldnt doubt
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>>285351167
I can, and will, blame them for bending over backwards for the George Lucas of video games.

Plus that still doesn't explain FE Awakening and (probably, let's face it) Project STEAM.
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>>285350910
>Dunno why theyre banking on a new ip rather than just bringing back AW.

Because a new IP is a better shot than relying on one that's doomed to fail. AW isn't a big series and people just don't support it.
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>>285336041
>Days of Ruin? (which sucked shit by the way)
You suck shit.
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>>285351262
Just die already. You queers are the reason IS turned into ISIS.
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>>285337310
> I'm all for a gritty AW title, but in the sense of the combat being violent/gory

No John, YOU are the edge
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>"Personally, when I want to play a game with strategy I just play Mario vs. Donkey Kong." - Shigeru Miyamoto
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>>285347215
Tanks and Bombers
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>>285351262
Mecha-Waifus?
>it will never get a sequel
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>>285349641
Because Japan always preferred FE (and SRPGs in general)
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>AW isn't a big series and people just don't support it

>and people just don't support it

>people just don't support it


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