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Now that the dust has settled,can we all agree that this game

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Now that the dust has settled,can we all agree that this game was not that great?
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no.
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>>284602058
arguments?
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>>284601995
It's a 10/10
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>>284602128
The horses don't poop.
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>>284602128

Provide arguments as to why its not great.

You made the fucking thread, I'm not going to argue for you when you can't even provide your own to start off with.
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9/10.


The shit ending ruined it's 10/10.
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>>284602354
There are no trans* characters.
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>>284602354
>>284602192
>Piss easy gunplay
>Useless/broken Cover system
>Dead-eye along with 300000 bullets makes impossible for you to die,thus making the combat extremely unsatisfactory/boring
>Missions have little variety compared to previous R* games
>You can cut 70% of the story and no one would see any difference,since the majority is just excuses to make John do the missions in the game
>The only things to do in the open world is hunt shit animals,found useless treasures or completing padding side quests
>Open world games like Fallout or Skyrim shit all over RDR in that department
>Plot is extremely forced to make marston do all kinds off missions
>Water instant kills you and this is a open world/sandbox game
>The game is just big because of extremely padding shit
>10/10

kek
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>>284601995
>GTA 4:Old West Edition
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>>284602712
The plot is pretty good, but it's nearly a copy-paste of the Proposition.
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I could never get into it, it's like they do everything pretty well except for the actual missions and gun mechanics.
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The achievement of creating a world that feels lived in and authentic makes it an instant 10/10. No other game has done this at the same scale as RDR.
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>>284603525
Bethesda games are actually better in that department
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>>284603842
I disagree. But I respect your preference.
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>>284601995
>mustard damage controlling against rockstar
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>>284601995
I've tried playing it a couple times, but I can't get into it because it starts so slow and boring. Undead nightmare is god tier tho
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>>284603508
so much this.
I found the missions in the game so boring and repetive,the gunplay is also very broken
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>>284603975
>so assblasted that needs to bring console war into the table
>literally nobody mentioned anything about platforms
Console wars are cancer
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I wish it was on PC cause I played it on ps3 when it came out and it looked like a late high end ps2 game
sometimes it was so bad it looked like the lines were drawn in paint
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>>284603985
I was the opposite. Loved the main game but UN started too slow for me. couldn't get into it.
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>>284601995
Most overrated game of last gen,that's for sure
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Not by far. Easily GOTY 2010
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>>284604484
Fallout new vegas and ME2 were better
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Nah easily GOTG

>tfw your hands upon a deadman's gun
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>>284602712
>fanboys are going to defend this
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No, you're a complete faggot and have bad taste in games, it's an objectively perfect game, a true 10/10 experience.
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>>284605085
Nice argument anon,10/10
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Playing it right now.

Feels good. Nothing remarcable.
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>>284601995
Why this game is praised by fanboys while GTA4 is hated again?The games are extremely similar,the only really diferent thing is the setting
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AND I KNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
THE ONLY COMPASS THAT IIIIIIII NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
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>>284602581
You don't know that. Maybe zim identifies as a zam but they didn't have surgery & estrogen pills back then.
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>>284605256
Because they haven't tasted any good western art. Nor music, nor movie, comics. Nothing.

This is literally My First Western Redemption.
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>>284604663
No
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>>284605256
must be a american thing,they are the only ones who like western setting
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>>284605807
>Because i say so
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>>284601995
I like it, if you progress through the game it keeps the game fresh with new areas, weapons, people. The whole atmosphere of it is awesome, the mexicans are awesome, there is no copy paste houses.
Loads of minigames. the horseriding can get a bid old though
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>>284602712
You again? All of that is nitpicky bullshit. The game is greater than the sum of its parts
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>>284606680
>The game is greater than the sum of its parts
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>>284606810
It is, too bad that you're desperately looking for reasons to hate it to imply taste.
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It was better than TLOU at least.

People actually believe TLOU was GOTG
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I really hope they release a PC port, would love to replay it.
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This game IS as great as I remember. I must not be jaded enough yet.
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>>284605940
Tons of other countries go full weaboo for westerns. Shit the Italians made the best ones.
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>>284606680
>you again
literally what

>>284606982
Why you bring a completly unreleted game to the discussion?You're that insecure?
Also TLOU is better anyway,try to pick a better example to make goalpost
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>>284606937
I'm just playing it, I don't have an opinion on it yet.

But that thing you just said is retarded.
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>>284607341
>literally what
You derailed our RDR thread last night with the same regurgitated arguments and pseudo-complaints, don't pretend to be retarded.
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>>284607486
Something can be greater than the sum of its parts, ever heard of a gesamtkunstwerk?
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>>284602712
>Listing the same point twice
>So assblasted there's numerous spelling mistakes

Good attempt though.
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>>284606680
>nitpicky
just stop,you don't even know what that means.
It would be nitpick if the guy picked a specific part of the game and tried to criticise the entire game because of it,instead he bring several mechanics and elements of the game to the table and said why they are bad.
Stop being a blind fanboy
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>>284607341
It's not unrelated at all, people are mentioning other games and arguing whether or not it's GOTY.
There were no goal posts moved, stop projecting so hard, kinda invalidates your whole post.
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>>284607812
Good thing that you counter his points
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>>284607820
>the guy
Stop defending your picky bullshit fag.
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>>284607341
>complains about Piss easy gunplay and Cover system
>Also TLOU is better anyway,

2/10 that's the best I can do.
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>>284607510
nigga i don't even know what you're talking about.
you really think that there's only one person who disliked RDR?
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>>284608001
i didn't know that you could be invencible in TLOU only mashing R1/RB
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>>284608021
Either there's only one oerson retarded enough to annoy people with regurgitated arguments and non-complaints like those or there's no hope left for humanity.
But then again when something is GOTY 2010 people will pretend to dislike it to imply superior taste than the rest of the world, classic /v/
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>>284607963
i'm not him retarded.
anyway,good thing you ignore all my points
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>>284608196
So it is you again, fag.
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No, it´s great, it's one of the few spaghetti western games done right alongside Sunset Riders.

Fuck Off
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>>284608301
>I'm not him
>But you ignored all my points
Nice freudian slip fag, now stop pretending to know better than the rest of the world.
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>>284607725
It's just a video-game, sorry. It could be a GTA mod as far as I've played it.

But if you want some gesamtkunstwerk, there are plenty of indie games.
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>>284602327
This really ruined the game for me. I was so immersed in the game and having an amazing experience riding for hours in the desert until I noticed something wrong. My horse hadn't pooped yet.

At first I thought it was constipated, or maybe sick. I waited hours in-game, and stayed up until 4am hoping my horse would just poop. That's when I realized: The horses don't poop.

This game had potential, could have been amazing. Never have I been so disappointed in a company, Rockstar no less. Immediately returned the game and wrote them a strong worded letter, still awaiting a reply.
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Undead Nightmare > RDR
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>>284607897
The OP is about RDR and RDR only.
TLOU is not even of the same year as RDR,they are separate by a 3 years diference,besides they are not even the of same genre
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>>284601995
fuck off
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>>284608483
Awful b8. RDR is a playable Sergio Leone epic. A Gesamtkunstwerk if I've ever played one.
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>>284608474
you ignore all my points about the nitpick thing faggot,are you this assblasted?
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I thought it was pretty good, even if it can be a glitchy mess. The characters were really likable and Mexico is the most fun area.
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>>284608340
You're literally retarded,i give up
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So will RDR be the next game with dedicated shitposters? Definitely nothing is sacred in this shithole, not even games widely liked in this board.
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I would buy again if it got a PS4 remaster or a PC port.
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>>284605256
Because the games are extremely similar.

After episodes, rdr, to a lesser extent LA noir, and other offerings from different devs/publishers like sleeping dogs, GTA V was underwhelming as fuck.

For me personally, it was unnecessary after those games, and should have been made for next gen consoles. It should have literally been SA but bigger and better.
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>>284602712
PCuck?
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>>284609119

This. Without a single hesitation.
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>>284609179
Derp. Thought I read GTA V.

I liked IV.
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>>284608474
>stop pretending to know better than the rest of the world.
>Wanting everyone to have the same shit opinion as him
>Thinking that stating a opinion is ''pretending to know better''

Pathetic
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>>284604268
>played it on ps3
theres your problem
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>>284608698
>RDR is a playable Sergio Leone epic

wat
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The dust had been long settled when I finally decided to play the game. It was one of the best games I ever played and that goes double for undead nightmare, something that never gets any praise.
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>>284609365
Saying picky bullshit that doesn't hurt the overall experience of a game as if it was a dealbreaker is literally oretending to know better thsn the rest of the world.
Your opinion is shit and the only thing holding it together is your incessant desire to get attention.
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>>284605532
RDR is amazing by Western standards
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>solid game
>DLC that's actually worth it
k
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>>284601995
it got a bit repetitive for a GTA like game. It just didn't feel that great. Story was neat though.
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>>284601995
The gunplay in this game is pretty bad,don't know how a game with horrible combat can receive so much praise.
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>>284609503
It is, I get it you've never seen anything by Sergio Leone but it's clear Dan Houser is a huge fan of his work.
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>>284601995
8/10 at its best.
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Where were all these faggots in the 24/7 RDR threads back in 2010?
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>>284609552
>picky
>giving examples and arguments for why the combat/gunplay is bad
>Providing arguments as for why the story is bad

The only picky thing about his post is the water thing and even then its a valid point.

But hey,you can keep saying that every critique directed at the game you like is nitpicking.
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>>284601995
but the game was great and a hell of alot better than GTAV was.

my only complaint is that you cant fucking turn off the slowdown for Deadeye once you get that particular upgrade, it was better before.
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>>284601995
>Now that the dust has settled,can we all agree that mustards are still mad?

FTFY
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>>284609951
That's why the OP is 'Now that the dust has settled''.
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The whole game just felt like a chore to play, nothing felt actually fun, with the exception of shooting things while riding and using the lasso on wanted criminals, that was kinda cool.

I hated the open-world thing, it only made things take longer than they should. The shooting felt bland, all my guns felt like they shoot out salt and shit. Missions were annoying since the NPCs keep making me hear the same bullshit all the time.

>hurr, a man should be judged for his crimes
>but muh poverty, muh ideals

We get it, Marston did stupid shit and he is on his way to REDEMPTION, or not, maybe. And I can't even skip it when I fail the mission, because it's not cutscene, so I'm forced to hear that shit while slowly walking towards the mission the horse.

Most of the random events that happen to "make the world feel alive!" are a clusterfuck, like, when you see robbers attacking a wagon, everyone will shoot you before you're even aware that there is a robbery going on. It's such a pain to have to start from the inn and ride all the way back to my destination at the end of the fucking world because I was just passing by some idiots.

This game was the definition of a chore to me, like I already said, and it convinced me to never touch another Rockstar game or any big-ass AAA game just because someone told me it was amazing. Those big sandbox games aren't for me, and I'm not going to bother playing games that I know I don't like just because it's the new best thing ever.
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>>284609624
don't think that the story is that good,its in the same level as GTA4 story imo
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No we can't. The best Rockstar game ever made, and almost flawless.

>>284609951
They weren't here back then obviously.
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>>284601995
It doesn't hold up as much as I thought it would. It felt like a 10 when it came out, but I feel like its more of an 8 now.

Still, it definitely has a great story, characters, and atmosphere. The horse controls hold up better than I thought, too. I just wish the gunplay was fun.
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>>284601995
I played it 5 months ago. It was that great. Where the fuck is my HD PC port Rockstar?
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>>284601995
it is a 10/10 and in my top 3 of all time.
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>>284609676

Anyone who makes a western themed anything is going to take at least some inspiration from the dollars series, even if they don't realize it.

>>284602712

Red Dead Redemption is one of the few games that I give a lot of praise mostly for its atmosphere. In terms of gameplay, it's a pretty by the book sandbox game. It's nothing revolutionary in that department, but it's good enough to get by as you would expect from GTA devs.

The strength in the game really is the setting. The characters, the art, the music, the story, everything matches exactly how someone who wants to play a western sandbox game would expect. If you're going to try to review it objectively, it's really going to come down to it being like GTA but with a different skin, but that skin is so lovingly crafted that people adore it.

If the premise doesn't draw you in, it's not going to wow you. For people who like westerns it's some good shit.
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>>284610359
>I hated the open-world thing, it only made things take longer than they should. The shooting felt bland, all my guns felt like they shoot out salt and shit. Missions were annoying since the NPCs keep making me hear the same bullshit all the time.


The gunplay is also very boring because of how easy it is,you can just activate dead-eye than spam infinite bullets with auto-aim.
Even GTA combat is harder than RDR and gta combat is pretty bad by itself
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>>284601995
>Console exclusive

Into the trash does it go
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>>284610887
your argument is actually the first decent one in the thread.

I agree that the setting is done pretty well in RDR but don't agree with the story or characters department
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>>284601995
Next to San Andreas and Max Payne 2, it's the best game I've seen published under the Rockstar name.
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>>284610952
don't start console war bullshit
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>>284610887
Nope. I LOVE westerns, and it doesn't feel as good as everyone told it was going to feel.

As I've said several times, the gameplay (I haven't finished the story) is alright. I expect some good argument.
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>>284601995
It's a great western rockstar game. It lived up to the advertisement induced hype for me personally.
I can see why people would be disappointed. A lot of people don't do any research on anything before buying a game, so they go into it expecting something it's not, and feel upset and misled. It's why you shouldn't buy a game because other people tell you it's great. Check out the game, see if it's your thing. If not then don't buy it.

Once in a while when I watch a great western I go back and replay it. The atmosphere helps a lot. If you can't get immersed or sucked into the atmosphere you may get bored.
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>>284610887

The atmosphere of RDR is indeed amazing,R* put alot of detail in their games to be fair and RDR is no exception.

I just think that people overlook too many flaws in this game,the open-world elements/story and especially gameplay are very flawed,people just choose to ignore
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>>284610952
At least you admit it.
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>>284608698
RDR is nothing like any Leone film. It's rooted in hard edged 90s/00s western revivals like Tombstone, Unforgiven, 3:10 to Yuma, the Proposition, etc.
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>>284609951
Discussions years after the release of a game are much better though,less bias involved
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>>284601995
Extremely overrated game.

The gunplay in this game is one of the worst that i ever see in a AAA game,how you have fun in a game where's impossible to lose/die?Also the open-world is empty as fuck,almost nothing to do besides killing some animals or finding some treasures.

I can't think of anything that this game does so much better than others in the same genre besides atmosphere
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>>284609106
>even games widely liked in this board
It doesn't seem that way anon.
Also
>Opinions=Shitpost
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>>284604382
this
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>>284611272
>the gameplay is alright
It's easily the worst part of the game nigga
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So RDR is considered shit now, fucking great.
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>/v/ finally recognizing the game for being shit
This is truly the best gaming board on the internet,thank you guys
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>>284613639
shit is strong word,maybe just a bit overrated
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>>284613639
Stop being a whiny pussy, you're free to like the game, and we're also free to dislike it. Just because there's not a Rockstar defence force going around 24/7 doesn't mean that the game will suddenly turn to shit in your eyes.
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>>284613781
See
>>284613665
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you're not allowed to criticize RDR in front of console plebs. It's all they have.
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>>284614243
my sides
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I knew you fags were a bunch of contrarians but goddamn this fucking tnread
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>>284601995
yup, it was ok, but not that special

also the area is kind of small and there is not that much things to do
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>>284614243
>Last of us
>RDR
>Heavy Rain
>Demons Souls
>Uncharted
>All we have
Keep the delusion Pcuck
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>>284615029
all these great movies, can I get popcorn for those?

I'll give you RDR and DS because I'm feeling generous
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>>284601995
people who love it must really love westerns, westerns are not really my thing
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>>284615029
>mentioning two movies
>mentioning RDR again
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>>284605256
russians are disgusting and that dating mission in the start fucking sucks
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>>284615021
The open-world is indeed not that good,bethesda games are definitly better however i think the biggest problem of the game is the gunplay/combat.
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>>284615380
>russians

m8
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>>284615029
>we have 5 games!11
lol
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>>284601995
The open world is unparalleled in beauty and design. I could take a screenshot from anywhere in the game world and most of you could place me on the game map from memory. The shootan was good fun.

Shame the plot sucked balls but Rockstar can't do plots since Bully.


>>284615250
That's the thing though. RDR was a western written by someone who hates westerns and does not understand them at all.
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>>284601995
https://www.humblebundle.com/gift?key=PEr7EDM3pPFXv2WP
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>>284615187
>Last of Us
>Movie
>2 hours of cutscenes
>Movie
>Meanwhile MGS3 has more than 7 hours of cutscene

nice meme my friend,when you're gonna stop parroting /v/ and form a opinion?
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>>284615580
>even more violent than niggers
>stupid
>never smile
>have weird pride thing going on even thought they are sub-humans
lol
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>>284615797
they're both movies. Last of Us is a movie not only because of the cutscenes but because it's a corridor game in between cutscenes
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>>284613367
That's what I'm saying. It's just "meh, it's a sandbox." Nothing special.
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>>284615838
it's easy to be proud when you're doing well, not so easy when your country is in the shitter. Real patriots are revealed then.

I'm Bulgarian so I can relate
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ITT PCucks are still salty 5 years later and vent about the dekay of GTA V,
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I wish I could dislike the game without being paired with whiny PCfags.
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>>284616140
I wish I could dislike GTA V without being paired with "muh sour grapes PCucks"
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>>284616320
>dislike gta v
You're either a weeb or a jaded shithead,
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>>284616413
>literally "stop disliking what I like"
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>>284601995
it's not on PC, so it therefore sucks
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>>284616465
So a jaded shithead it is.
First year on /v/ I assume?
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>>284615890
are you implying that linearity is a inherent bad thing?The level design of TLOU is very good imo(with the exception of the first areas)and the environments are filled with details and nice touches,the gunplay and stealth are also very solid and satisfactory.

Look i'm not the guy who started the console war bullshit but you have to admit that TLOU is a great game,maybe not great as vidya journalists made out to be but great regardless
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>>284616621
this entire thread is MUH OPINIONS anyway but I seriously dislike linear games because they have next to zero replayability and rely massively on multiplayer after you beat them, and the multiplayer on consoles is usually dead within a year
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>>284616413
He's right though,GTAV is incredibly overrated
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>>284616582
I don't know anyone personally who thinks that GTA V is an above average game.

Maybe it's because they played the good ones.
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>>284616881
Overrated means nothing, it literally means "people like this game more than they should" and implies that you're some sort of authority in how much someone can like something, which you're obviously not, overrated is a non-criticism mostly used by teenagers to imply some sort of criteria they obviously like, since they use non-criticisms as "overrated" in the first place.
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