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http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/02/23/nvidia-facing-lawsuit-over-gtx-970-false-advertising
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It's amazing how the PC gaming scene went from praising the 970, to bashing it.

Nvidia lost a fuckload of customers, trust, and money off .5gb. Something so small and cheap.

I wonder how this even happened. I actually think it might be stupidity over malice.
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>>284430959
>lawsuit
About damn time.
Lying about specs shouldn'y be okay just because the leading brand does it.
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>>284430959
>I wonder how this even happened.

Because people want what is advertised and pay for and when something falls short of what is advertised then that's being dishonest.

A bakers dozen is 13 for a reason
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>>284431290
>how the PC gaming scene went from praising the 970, to bashing it.
No ide about which community you're talking about.
But over in Europe, or at least germany, the shit was always bashed for false advertisement

Sadly the US press never gave much of a shit for some reason about it so the didn't reported as much about it

The lawsuit took long fucking enough tho.
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>>284434257
more importantly, let's hope the nividafags will stop buying shitty overpriced GC when they can have the same quality or better with AMD
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Have another friendly reminder from /g/
http://www.overclock.net/t/1529108/are-nvidia-neglecting-kepler-optimization-since-maxwell-release

R9 290 competes with the GTX 970, and utterly destroys the 780ti.
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>>284431290
>It's amazing how the PC gaming scene went from praising the 970, to bashing it.
It took a while for people to figure it out since only a few games require up to 4 GB's of memory.
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>>284434368
I changed by 270x for a 670 a while ago with a friend, and god damn do i love this thing.

But people seriously need to learn to stop buying and accepting overpriced products like nvidia cards..perfect example being Titan GPUs
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970 price drop when?
>Implying this will affect me since I'm in a third world country that overcharges electronics to high heavens
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>>284434368
Nvidia is the choice of the power-conscious, quiet-minded user.
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>>284434493
I'd actually consider a 970 if it drops to the upper $200's
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>sonyggers
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>>284434697
>wanting to derail a thread
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>>284434697
>I-its not like we w-wanted to play it anyway
>m-master race, r-right guys?
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>>284434852
>trying to play that card on The Movie 1886

I expected better of you.
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>>284434852
>implying you can "play" the Order
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>>284434852
I'll play it on youtube this weekend if I have five hours to spare.
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>>284434852
>play
>The Order
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>>284431290
>It's amazing how the PC gaming scene went from praising the 970, to bashing it.

I don't think anyone started bashing the 970 except for AMD shills. It's still a good card and If I was going to upgrade I would get it. The performance didn't change and it outperforms any card AMD has.
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>>284431290
You'd be better off getting a 290 Vapor-X and OC'ing it.
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Do you think they'll drop the price of the 970 in response? I'm perfectly happy replacing my 570 with a 970 even if it's only 3.5gb of memory provided the price is right.
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>>284435017
>970 outperforms any card AMD has.
This is simply not true.
Nice shilling though.
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>>284431290
They sold a shitload of 970s. It's unlikely they are losing money on it.
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>>284435079
They've never dropped the prices on their new cards before.
And why should they when its still selling so well despite 3.5 scandal?
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>>284435079
No.
People are still buying the cards because they are not informed enough. Its still a top seller for a reason.
It is a good card, but the 3.5GB is hard to swallow
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>>284435017
I have two 970s and I'm bashing them harder than anyone. Fuck off, shill.
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>>284434368
>more importantly, let's hope the nividafags will stop buying shitty overpriced GC when they can have the same quality or better with AMD

People will buy Nvidia graphics cards as long as they outperform AMD.
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>>284430959
>Use nvidia cards all my life just cause its what I use
>see this nonsense
>guess ill start considering amd
>think people are retarded for preordering anything
>lifegoeson.jpg
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>>284435017
>I don't think anyone started bashing the 970 except for AMD shills
So... AMD Shills just bought 970's so they could sue it??? get fucking real m8
>it outperforms any card AMD has
ok, sure m8
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>>284435079
no price drop before AMD's new cards hit the market.
Even then they won't discount it significantly. They never dropped the 780 and 780ti prices even when 290 and 290x were $100 cheaper.
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>>284431290
>losing a fuck load of customers
Fucking lol. These idiots went ahead and bought the 980 instead, including the people that returned the 970
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>>284435079
No but they may be forced to make a revision with working 4gb or dropp the 4gb and call it a 3,5gb card
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>>284435017
>muh shills
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>>284435047

Really though? Been thinking about getting a 290X or rather the 380X for that money.
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>>284435302
The GTX 970 clearly outperforms the R9 290x.
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>>284435419
Not after 3.5GB of VRAM usage :^)
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>>284434852
Nobody with more than two brain cells wants to play that piece of shit game.
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So why is no one suing Sony since only 4.5GB of MUH 8GB GDDR5 is available to games?
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>>284435282
Except many people don't know that non-reference factory OC'd cards easily outperform their reference counterparts and the competition. The Sapphire 290 can be OC'd to compete with a 980 and 290x, but it costs a lot less.
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>>284435017
Oy vey.
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Is the 970 still okay if I only play games in 1080p? I don't want to go ahead and spend even more money on a card just after buying this.
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>>284435419
Stop talking out of your ass.
>>284435498
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>>284435419
>The GTX 970 clearly outperforms the R9 290x.
Bait
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>>284435419
maybe in bizarro world it does
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>>284435498

The thing is that for the price of a Vapor-X 290 I can just buy a Tri-X 290X instead without bothering with high overclocks.
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>>284435553
No, get a Sapphire 290x for that money.
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>>284435476
Are you seriously surprised that the operating system and a lot of processes that aren't games also need random-access memory? The 8GB is physically there and none of it is gimped compared to the rest.
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>>284435612
If that's what you want to do, go for it.
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>>284430959
I still can't believe people actually fell for the mass 970 shilling that was on here a few months ago.
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>>284435642
>350€+ in Europe
>goes for 330$ in Murrica

fucking American privilege
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>>284435746
Yea, the same reason I had to get a 290 instead of a 290x.
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>>284435698

I don't want to do it, I simply looked up the prices after reading your post, wondering what the best option would be for that money.
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>>284435642
I think you misunderstood me. I already have a 970. I don't want to spend even more money on a card.
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>>284435815
Your best option is not getting a 970.
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As an owner of a 970, what can actually come from this if they successfully sue nvidia?
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How do I know this thread isn't just AMD shilling?
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>>284435891
I can second this man informed opinion
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>>284435915
In an ideal situation, Nvidia issues a recall for the 970s and people get fully functioning 4GB replacements.

But in reality, Nvidia will most likely settle out of court and just issue a free Ubisoft game or rebate offer to 970 owners.
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>>284435923

Just go back to enjoying video games and don't bother thinking about that. Who cares what card you have.
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>>284435915
Absolutely nothing of value for you
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>>284435915

If you provide proof of purchase you can probably get some of your money back, and keep the card. AMD cucks are going to be mad as fuck when we're outperforming their 290s with practically free cards. Or just get the money from the settlement and buy a 980. You'd have to seriously be touched in the head to even consider going AMD this gen.
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>>284435915
20 bucks after you register and they win. Of course the people who took the risk get millions and the lawyer
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For the people who got the card and are now worried about it being shit or not. It's still a great card for 1080p. Anything else over that you're better off with AMD probably or a higher end nvidia if you still trust them
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>>284435923
>How do I know you are not a SpiderBro?
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>>284435915
a free ubisoft game for everyone :^)
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Aren't the things like this that people say in advertisements legal? I mean, it's legal over here.
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>>284435993
I'd love it if they did the 1st possibility but I'm sure they'll do the second one because they'll somehow wriggle out of this.
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>>284436005

Not true, in a class action settlement the company has to reimburse the customers whatever the court orders them to pay. I got 20 dollars for owning a pair of vibrams five finger shoes because the court ruled they used false advertising by saying that free running had health benefits over traditional running shoes.
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>>284436012
>Jewvidia
>Free/discounted cards
Pick one.
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>PC gamers hype up the newest shiny toy that turns out to be a fucking mess and falls for the same marketing shit as console idiots.

Steam has literally reduced the PC gaming scene to console levels of retarded consumerism. Add to that the shitty "master race" superiority complex and you have really hit the button of the barrel.

Holy fuck this platform has become such a joke.
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>>284436117

They don't have a choice, if the court orders, they have to pay.
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The constant shilling for the 970 and 980 on /g/ and /v/ were fucking hilarious though
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>>284435586
Shadow of Mordor is known to artificially throttle Nvidia cards. Try harder.
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>>284436060
Ya
AC: Unity
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>>284436091
deceptive marketing is legal, but actually lying to your consumers about the products specifications is illegal.
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I'd love if I got some sort of reimbursment, but I feel like this lawsuit wont go anywhere. Theres always unusuable memory in shit like HDD's and ram, wouldn't Nvidia just make the same claim?
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>>284436202

/g/ turned anti-Nvidia though.
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>>284436239
AMD was always the free choice as in freedom
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>>284436038
But AMD cost less. So what's the point
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If I buy a 3.5 right now can I get in on the lawsuit?
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>>284436212

>Game powered my Nvidia The Way It's Meant To Be Played artificially throttles on Nvidia cards

No matter where you're going with that statement, you're ending up nowhere.
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>>284436285
I like actually having drivers.
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>>284436202
Cant blame them. For a few months the 970 was a no-brainer while AMD was twiddling their thumbs and only woke up with price cuts and discounts when the fiasco started.
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what games reach 3.5 at 1080p?
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>>284436012
I'm sure I could provide proof of purchase, though I won't hold my breath. The card still suits my needs but I don't like being misled. And no, I probably won't go AMD but that's because I have no experience with them and from all the reading I've done, I don't want inferior support for drivers and such.
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>>284436212
but isn't Shadow of Mordor an Nvidia optimized game?
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>>284436303
nope.

besides, wait for 390x, it's very soon to be released.

considering 290x allready performs in same range as 980, it is very promising.
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>>284436280
no, free as in free of drivers
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>>284436303
Oy vey
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>>284435017
>I don't think anyone started bashing the 970 except for AMD shills
>shill shill shill

I have one gtx970 and I'm bashing it all the time since the fucking scandal blow up, because it pissed me off!
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What card is better for browsing 4chan and some porn sites at 480p?
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>see goy, Nvidia is clearly the better option!
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>>284436220
Well, okay.
I have a question though. Deceptive marketing is legal because the law says that it's your own fault for not doing any research first before buying the product since it's just an advert. Doesn't that idea apply to this as well?
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>>284436212
Nvidia throttles their own damn cards. They don't need a game to do that.
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>mfw I got the gigabyte g1 windforce, the ONLY 970 with 4gb on the day the controversy came out
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>>284436437
Voodoo
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>>284436448
That is accurate though.
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>>284436561
It's an architecture issue, having a gigabyte card makes no difference. I have the same card
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>>284436448
This graph gave me many keks. Thank you.
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>>284434493

I know that feeling too well. The 970 is ridiculously overpriced compared to western markets.

Ironically, the 980 is much closer in price. I guess our faggot store owners just wanted a bigger slice from the 970 cake.
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>>284436561
Was it really?
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if the 290x performs as well as the 980 right now, and with the 390x around corner...

How exactly is nvidia going to compete against that in less than a month?
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>>284436714
4.5MB
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>>284436714
980 TI
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>>284436481
On the boxes of plenty of 970s, they specify the specifications of the the GPU alongside with whatever other gimmicks they throw in there. On product review sites, they also include the specifications of the GPU as well.

Later, it was found out and confirmed by Nvidia that the specifications were "incorrect" like the ROP, SMM, and TDP count but the 4GB fiasco was a intentional hardware compromise that Nvidia played dumb about until it people started figuring out that the card doesn't perform exactly like a 4GB card.

Nvidia may have corrected the specs on their website and on multiple product review pages, but they still mislead their consumers about their product and the evidence is still on the hundreds of thousands of 970 retail boxes out there and on plenty of website archives on the internet.
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>>284436781
That implies they have it manufactered already, and i really doubt they'll be capable of competing with a 4k membus
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>AMD shills in here mad at Nvidia because they're cards are more expensive than AMD cards.

Of course they're going to be more expensive, Nvidia cards are more powerful and perform better than AMD cards. You don't see Intel selling their processors at lower prices than AMD processors. Intel has better processors so they can sell them at a higher price than AMD. People will pay more for quality and performance.
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>>284436448
kek
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>>284435017
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, yeah right, you are either a shill or a fucking retard.
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>>284436828
Uh.

The 290x has outperformed the 780, 780ti, the 970 and the 980.

There's a 390x being released next month.

I usually would stick with nvidia, but AMD is doing really well.
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>>284436857
70c won't even boil water you stupid fuck it certainly won't create fires EVER.
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>>284436857
ahahah, that scale
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>tfw got a 970 and now feeling depressed that I was lied to

It's still okay unless I want to do 4k right
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the 970 is bad but it doesn't make amd's offering any better
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I looked up all the 290x, the problem is all their air cooled cards go up to 80c or higher on load and are loud as fuck. My 970 gets 64c on load in furmark and is inaudible.
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Technically there are 4GB, but good luck with the sue
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>>284436857
>more jew graphs

Pls
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>>284436924
>>284436857
>he doesn't watercool his PC
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>>284436857
>>284436448
Now here's a real chart straight from Nvidia's website.
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If I buy a gtx 970 and plan on only using 1080p resolution, will the 3.5 handicap impact me at all? Are there really many games that require 4GB vram or will there be soon?
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>>284436857
fucking
L
O
L
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>>284436857
>difference of 5 degrees
>represented as almost double
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>>284436890
The 290x has outperformed the 780, 780ti, the 970 and the 980.

No it doesn't. The 970 outperforms the 290x. The 980 is a league in its own right now. Currently AMD doesn't have a card that can math the 980's performance.
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>>284436974
That is AMD's issue primarily, that they generate much heat, but in return give out good performance.

390x is going to have AIO watercooling loop as manufacterer standard cooling on the card.
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>>284436857
>65c bar half as big as 70c bar
Fucking kek
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>>284436965
Well, the thing is about consumer trust. Next time, when they're trying to sell a 8GB card for 4K, will it be really 8GB? Will it have something hidden that nobody will notice until months after having that card?
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>>284436692
>>284436606
no, my gigabyte g1 actually uses 4gb

anyway this whole 3.5 thing is a meme you guys realise?
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>>284436965
Yeah, the people complaining about it want to push the mark.

If you're playing at 1920x1080 this wont have an effect on you.
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>>284436357

Shadow of Mordor and a few other AAA games already allocate whole 4GB VRAM for use.
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Man I fucking love this graph trickery.
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>>284437063
You do realize in terms of FPS on all the latest games, the 290x performs at same level as the 980, right?

The 980 has already been surpassed by AMD just updating it's drivers.

It's uncanny.
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What's /v/'s opinion on R9 280X? Thinking about upgrading to one.
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I didn't catch what happened with the 970, what happens to it and what causes it?
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>>284436974

With a proper aftermarket cooler it's not really a problem.
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http://youtu.be/spZJrsssPA0
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>>284435079
No, NVIDIA isn't even acknowledging the issue, they made a bullshit statement and they haven't even talk about the subject since. They aren't going to price drop shit because retards don't give a flying fuck and they keep buying their bullshit.

At this point PC GPU fanboys is just as cancerous as console war fanboys.
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>>284437150
Are you not reading the thread?

The 390/x and 380/x comes out next month.

Why would you upgrade to a 280x now when the price is going to be the same for the 380x?
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Intel processors are better than AMD processors so Intel processors cost more.

Nvidia GPUs are better than AMD GPUs so Nvidia GPUs cost more.
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>>284435017

fuck you! you piece of shit

I have a gtx970 and mine starts to fuck up at 3gbvram and I have the low gpu issue

thanks to that it is just a slightly better gtx 580
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>>284437114
I'm pretty sure its not a meme since its been proven to affect cards. I haven't pushed my G1 to the point of needing to use all 4gb though so I couldn't say if it would go past 3.5 but its an issue with the build of the chip.
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>>284437150

Wait like three more months, m8. AMD is launching the 300 series soon.
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Fuck it I'm getting a 290 DirectCU

It's cheap and good enough
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>>284437160
I'm no nvidia shill I'm an AMD guy but a good few 970 cards came shipped with an architecture error that effectively only 3.5gb of vram can be used out of the 4. Most of the cards are not affected but people are rightly pissed off
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>>284436357
Lords of the Fallen
Skyrim with extensive texture mods
Shadow of Mordor with Ultra texture quality
Dying Light
Pretty much any future AAA game for PC down the road
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>>284430959

Time to get a Radeon for now on?
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>>284437234

Matey, if you're buying AMD cards, you should stick to Sapphire coolers.
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>>284437174
I love that shit, it never gets old. The cold hard trues are amazing.
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>>284437234
Got me a Tri-X OC 290 for 180 bucks. I'm god damned pleased going from a GTX 560 Ti which served me extremely well but it was time for it to retire, its VRAM just wasn't cutting it anymore.
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>>284435476

>being this stupid

go back to suck nvidias dick
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>>284437178
not that im defending them, but the 970 is still a good card for it's price, but id be so pissed if i'd bought one thinking it was 4gb
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>>284437234
nigga, wait one month instead of being retarded.

AMD is releasing their next lineup.
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>>284437318

Could you please comment on the noise levels under full load after an hour of gaming?
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>>284437170
>spent $400
>need another $100 cooler to make it quiet
>voids rma

I'll pass.
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>>284437302
I prefer the ASUS ROG Poseidon cooler

lets me not have to change out the cooler, and integrates more easily into my rig.
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>>284437332
People were saying "wait one month" before the 970. It's ok also the newer cards are going to cost more
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>>284437114
Test it again dude, you will realize that it has the same issues as all the other cards. Otherwise the prices of that particular card would have skyrocketed already.
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>>284435746

>Mfw my PC cost 1000 euros to build
>mfw the same PC would cost 600 euros in Murrica

fucking europe
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>>284436857
please don't tell me this shit is official
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>>284437370
None. The 3 fans remain at around the standard 20% which isn't audible over my regular desktop fans at the top of my case.

I've pushed it too and while it goes to like 60c you won't hear shit from it. Like it so far.
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>>284437418
Dude, you wait one month specifically to buy secondhand 290x's for cheaper prices

Don't be retarded. Blowing your load now when many people will be selling their barely used cards very soon.
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>>284436131

pc gaming is so overrated. western games are trash, indies are all clones and Japanese games take years to come to the platform.
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>>284437406
every 290x on the market comes with a custom cooler, dipshit
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>>284436974
Only reference design 290s run hot as hell, they don't even sell those models anymore.

That one Tri-X 290 from Sapphire never breaks above 60 something degrees Celsius while gaming.
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I had a HD7850 and last month I bought a 970 knowing the issue with them.
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>>284437448
That's false advertising
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>>284437406
Are you going to buy fucking reference designs?
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>>284437406

What the hell are you talking about? You can get a Sapphire Tri-X 290X for $329 on Newegg. The cooler is pre-installed, you silly goose.
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>>284437512
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_290X_Tri-X_OC/28.html

>77c load
>37 DBA

Fuck that.
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>>284436448
>>284436857
>>284437037
>>284437448
now you understand how Nvidia manages to stay in business by deceptively tricking their consumers.
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>>284437539
I have an HD7850 and seriously considering just buying the 970 since I only play in 1080p.

How is it anon?
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>>284436367
Alright I quit, this is too painful to read.
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>>284437608
>77c load while OC'd

even then, that's still fine. Start panicking once your GPU starts going past 85C.
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>>284437605
I'm in canada. The 290x here is $499 to $600 (the saphireX as mentioned is 599).
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>>284437539
>>284437630
Niggas please. There are games out already that can and will utilize 4GB. Just wait for AMDs new line up and if those cards do not convince you you can still buy a 970.
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>>284437413
>lets me not have to change out the cooler
>>284437406


What the hell are you two talking about? You do realize aftermarket cards come WITH the cooler, right?
>>
>>284437539
>>284437630
You are the cancer killing PC gaming, for retards like you Nvidia thinks they can release any bullshit card for high prices and people will still buy it because they are fucking stupid and don't know better.
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>>284437638
Sorry anon. Its not like its a bad card as long as your not playing an higher resolutions. Its probably why I haven't ran into any issues since I'm only at 1080p.
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>>284437685
>GPU starts going past 85C
>mfw my old 4890 went to 95°C and it was fine

Step it up
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>>284436367
>, I don't want inferior support for drivers and such.
HAHAHAHA are you living in the past or something? Do your research again.
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>>284435017
dont buy 970
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>>284437714
Change out the cooler as in, it comes with a waterblock built-in.

I watercool my equipment.
>>
>>284437691

Shit, sucks about those Canadian prices. Anyway, you're still wrong about that "voids RMA" part, if you're still the guy I am replying to. It makes no sense.
>>
>>284437710
The problem with amds new cards with the stacked ram is that they are all limited to 4GB. The first version of their stacked design on chip means that the card no longer has memory chips on the side like all older cards, so the core has to cool both the gpu/new ram.

If they go higher than 4gb then they will be forced to use older GDDR5 ram as HBR in 1.0 form can't do more than 4gb.
The new HBR ram is at 650 gbps, DDR5 is 200 gbps. What kind of effect that will have if they do go that route will remain to be seen.
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>sell pc parts for a living
>still recommending 970 over everything
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>>284437630
A huge step up for sure, the difference is massive.

When I played Metro Last Light with my 7850 I would average around 40fps on medium/high at 1080p.

After I upgraded to the 970 the average is closer to 50fps with physx and everything on high at 1080p.

Unless you're looking to get into 4k gaming currently or want to SLI your cards, then opt for the 970. Not shilling, just my personal experience.

My specs and you can see I'm bottlenecked by my CPU.
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>>284437252
>980
>>
>>284437813
90°C is always the point where you should start to worry. People are fucking retarded when they worry that their GPUs reach mid 70°C temperatures. Its fucking normal if the cards are under heavy load

AMD cards do tend to run hotter than Nvidias though
>>
>>284437862
The high temp isn't refernece cooler (that thing hits 95c or higher), but the "custom" coolers which hit 80-85c.
>>
>>284437850

That makes you a minority then. Still, fuck those CAD prices.
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>>284437813
Nvidia's reference Fermi cards were well known to reach nearly 100 degrees Celsius while under load.
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>>284437714
Look at it.

No need to change out cooler, it's a hybrid.

Lets you plug in watercooling loop without having to replace the cooler with a custom one.
>>
>>284437813

I had a 3850 go past 120°C and work for years afterwards.

These numbers only mean anything for extended use.
>>
>>284437818
I did my research again when the news broke about the 3.5 issue. Over many users reviews on loads of different sites a lot of people still complain about dodgy amd drivers with quirks that haven't been fixed in a long time. I'm well aware nvidia has had some shitty drivers, but in my experience with them I haven't had any issues. Also I like them for the fact they release new game drivers almost straight away these days.
>>
I can play every game perfectly fine on high quality on a mid-tier pc.
I love morons who buy every newest card just to masturabate with power bills.
>>
>>284437949
Costs about the same if you buy a third party waterblock and mount it yourself.

This way you get warranty on the card, and still manage to get sub 40 load temps. (assuming your loop isn't retarded or catered towards silence)
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Get the 290x if you enjoy stuttering framerate. Your call.
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>>284437746
Glad I could make you so upset anon.
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>>284437938

Good aftermarket coolers stay below 75°C, even those are factory OC'd. If you go for a higher OC, that's when you start hitting the 80s.
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>>284437691
>I'm in canada. The 290x here is $499 to $600 (the saphireX as mentioned is 599).

Wait for deals on newegg.ca, NCIX or tigerdirect.

There's a MSI Radeon R9 290X Gaming Twin Frozr IV for $349 on NCIX.ca right now.
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>Tfw my R9 280x performs on par with a GTX 780 in Ryse
>>
>>284437898
The great thing about everyone falling for Nvidia's shilling is that AMD's cards tend to drop in price as a result.

I was able to snag a nearly brand new R9 280x for only $130 last month.
>>
>>284437954

Oh, I got you. That is pretty cool then.
>>
good. they can get fucked for how they screwed over the original xbox.
>>
>>284437818

>amd past
>shit drivers
>amd present
>shit drivers, but they've outsourced improvements like Raptr, which then promptly got hacked and user data was stolen

Lots have been learned, don't trust a company that has no R&D, outsources simply software implementations of their own hardware, and just generally sucks dick.
>>
>>284437746
But it's still a better card.
>>
>>284438125
>$130 last month.
literally how
that card is worth triple the price
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>>284438064
Get the 970 if you enjoy having 0.0FPS once you go past 3.5GB of VRAM usage.
>>
Too bad even with this AMD still isn't worth the BSOD and no drivers

Oh well~
>>
>>284438182
Probably bitcoin miner.
I got mine for 50% market price aswell with 2 year warranty because it was only used for a month.
>>
>>284438182
Amazon+Amurrica prices.
>>
>>284438182
The 280x?
No way man, you can get a new 280x for ~$200.
Shit, you can get a 280 for $150.
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>>284438240
The AMD no drivers died along with the Nvidia fires
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>>284437906
Hah, you are me.

I was also thinking of upgrading to an fx-8350 since it is pretty cheap

I trust myself, I think the 970 will be alright, especially cause of what I'm used to.

I'll wait a month to check out the new amd cards, but it's looking like I'll go 970 anyway, 980 if I can
>>
>>284438240
>AMD
>No drivers

I cant tell if its actual shills or just retards who keep perpetuating this meme
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I love graphs
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>>284438097

>Check GPU Temp
10C

>Check CPU temp.
-44C

It's all good.
>>
>>284438190
Got a link to whoever did this comparison? I'm curious how he got the ram usage that high in the game with what settings. Or is he just using 4k DSR rendering or higher?
>>
I'm just going to get the 980 from Gigabyte, I still need to edit videos for my skating friends.
>>
>>284438397
I don't even know anyone who plays WOW. Where are all those millions of people?
>>
>>284438404
You build your computer into a refridgerator or something?
>>
>>284438256
>>284438243
Sorry I got it confused with the 290, but even then the 280x is 250+ here
>>
>>284438426

Most likely DSR
>>
>>284438482
China
>>
>>284438404
I used to have a gaming PC in Alaska, I got curious one day and decided to play it near an open window, temperatures we're so low it was fucking amazing.
>>
>>284438330
Wow yeah, pretty similar there.
I wouldn't bother with upgrading to another AMD CPU though.
For gaming and the price you'd be better of getting an i5-k. The bulldozer AMD CPU's are kind of overkill and the performance difference in gaming is quite large when compared to Intel.

It just means you'll have to swap out your mobo too though.
>>
>>284438482
Playing WoW. There is tons of people playing WoW 1-2 hours a day for dailies and that's it.
>>
>>284430959
>ign.com

Fuck off Matt.
>>
>>284438493

I took the compressor out of a fridge, yes.

These gigantic cases for air cooling are being under-utilised by the less enthusiastic enthusiasts among us.
>>
>>284438482
i in the middle, i play wow from time to time
i know people who have never heard of/played wow
i also know people who have devoted 10 years to it
to each their own i guess
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>>284438251
>>284438125
I can confirm this as well, people are desperate to sell off their cards once newer ones come. I feel bad for people who sold their perfectly working AMD and Nvidia cards just to buy a 970.
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>>284438504
That shit sux I guess.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202137&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
>>
>>284438591
>compressor
Nice temps but that things gotta be loud as balls.
>>
Why are Canadian computer component prices so retardedly high?
>>
NOT EVERY FUCKING POST IS "SHILLING"
HOLY FUCK
DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHAT FUCKING CARD YOU USE
JESUS CHRIST
USE THE ONE THAT GIVES YOU THE MOST PERFORMANCE AND EFFICIENCY, ONE THAT ISN'T FUCKING INHERENTLY BROKEN (SEE NOT ACTUALLY 4 GIGS AT WHATEVER FUCKING SPEED IT IS HOLY ASS)
IF YOU'RE USING A FUCKING CARD
THAT PERFORMS THE WAY YOU WANT TO
YOU ARE NOT A CUCK
YOU MAY BE AUTISTIC BUT YOU'RE NOT
A
FUCKING
CUCK
CUCKPOSTERS FUCK OFF AND GO BACK TO NEOFAG/REDDIT/ASSMUNCHTOPIA WHEREVER THE FUCK YOU ORIGINATED
BECAUSE I DAMN SURE KNOW YOU DIDN'T FUCKING COME FROM /v/
YOU FUKCS
SHIT
GODDAMN I HATE YOU NIGGERS ps3 has no games
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>>284430959
>4GB MEANS 4GB.
OH SHIIITT SOONNNNN!!! They're literally slapping nvidia across the face!!!!
>>
>>
>>284438696
because our dollar isn't on par with the us dollar?
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>>284438715
saved
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>>284438715
calm down anon
we're all friends here
>>
>>284438715

Calm down. Go REEEEE somewhere else.
>>
>>284438786
True, but the price when converted into USD is still gouging. Even when cad was 1:1 with USD our prices were still jacked up.
>>
>>284438557
I guess going intel would be a smarter move in the long run.

Thanks , me
>>
>>284438696
Canadian dollars and imports. Video games are now 70$ and might go up to 80$.
>>
The real crime here is people still playing modern western games

Instead of using 3,5 GB on the new Thief, use a fraction of that to play the older infinitely superior ones you tasteless idiots
>>
>>284438646

Nah, it's insulated with 2lb polyurethane and all buttoned up cozy. Aside from the element and the fan switching on and off it's just about silent.

The video cards wouldn't function below 5C though, never could figure out what was going on. 10C was as cold as I could take them and keep the machine stable.
>>
>>284438839
>tfw gaming is taxed so a new game is 85 smackacroos
>tfw canada is getting ass rammed by rampant uncontrolled immigration that replaces all labor and canadians are stuck only being hired part time
fucking traitors all of them.
>>
Here are the numbers for Steam when it comes to resolutions.
>>
>>284438792
what the hell, please sauce
>>
>>284438771
http://www.netindex.com/download/map
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>>284438715
BWAHAHAH!! look at this fucking nvidia shill, he's mad as fuck!!
>>
>>284436714
By not requiring you to be ready for a liquid cooling setup.

I am going to laugh when some defective 390x units get out there and actually melt someone's PC. AMD shills would of course defend it the same way they defended Leafblower: The Video Card.
>>
>>284438696
Sit down Canada
you gave us Anita Sarkeesian and Justin Bieber
you get what you deserve
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>>284438715
>>
>>284438771
Isn't this image over ten years old? I'm sure Mexico got a least 3x its mean of that image by now
>>
>>284438936
>Tfw rare breed of 2048x1152
>>
>>284438696
Dunno but it sucks. Built a desktop a year and a half ago or so
>i5 3570k
>GTX 660 3GB Gigabyte
>8GB RAM
>2TB HDD
>1080p Acer monitor
>gigabyte mobo, don't remember the model
>Windows
>Razer Blackwidow keyboard I think
After shipping this fucking low-mid tier piece of shit cost me $1500 on newegg
>>
>>284438896
>not playing modern games at ultra settings and then downsampling older games to 8k with your fancy pantsy GPU
>>
>>284438927
>uncontrolled immigration
Brah, Canada is like 80% White.
>>
>>284436867
That laugh. We are brothers.
>>
>>284439061
You can downsample the first two Thiefs from 8k to 1080p on a bargain bin GPU
>>
>>284439000
Probably. No date on it sadly.
>>
>>284438927
>Implying Canada isn't whiter than America
>>
>>284439000
nice trips but that won't fix ps3's lack of games
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>>284438936
>Most Steam users use shit display resolutions
No big surprise, especially when the most played games on Steam can be played on a toaster.
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Anybody have a list of the 2015 exclusives like this?
>>
>>284439248
>Over 1 million people playing Dota 2
Jesus christ.
>>
>>284438927
>>284439064

>26 white male from EU
>plan on moving there

Guess sometimes I AM part of the problem.
>>
>>284435419
Enjoy 1080p worth of VRAM

Meanwhile 290/X users will enjoy higher resolutions and no stutter
>>
>>284439334
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
N
>>
>>284439314

I don't believe it, I'm sure they just skew their own numbers, like they always do with the 'top sellers' lists and all that.
>>
>>284438936
>1440p 0.98%
>>
>>284439416

In case you didn't know, top sellers list is based on revenue, not units sold.
>>
>>284439449
it is the 1%, literally
>>
>>284439416
>I don't believe it
I do.
It's a free game.
>>
>>284439394

I can't live in a country of permanent rain.

South canada basically matches my current climate, though if I could I would go south for dem 250+ days of sun.
>>
>>284439449
>>284439490

It's crazy. I got a 1440p display a year ago and thought that by know at least 10% of the Steam playerbase would have it.
>>
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1gxb2Hr0OkU
>>
>>284439493
its a free game filled with mad russians and retarded south americans
>>
>>284439248
That's because the vast majority of Steam users aren't from the 1st world
>>
>>284439314
It keeps growing too

>>284439416
They don't skew the numbers, if you check the Steam Charts page you can see the game has been on a steady rise of players each month.
http://steamcharts.com/app/570
>>
>>284439486

Then its not a top seller list.
I dont care what they do, they obviously 'cheat' with their own titles whenever they are around, so I don't really believe it.

>>284439493

HoN is quite literally the same thing today and has 100k.
Only Dota 2 and LoL came up with outrageous numbers and we both know that both companies falsify data.
>>
>>284439581
Free games are really popular. Look at LoL or Candy Crush or any mobile free games. They make millions with no charge at entry.
>>
>>284436060
I'd be alright with that.

No way I'd ever pay for an Ubisoft game and AC: Blackflag looks fun.
>>
>>284439645

Literally nobody gives a fuck about HoN.
>>
>>284439645
You honestly legitimately don't believe that 1 million people play Dota 2 and over 15 million people play LoL?
You do realize that a fucking tournament for LoL literally filled up a stadium built for 500k+ people, right?
>>
>>284439303
There's too many. List would probably have to be like 5 times the size of that one.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pc+exclusives+2015
>>
>>284439752
50k+*
>>
>>284439645
Last I checked, Dota has one the biggest Esports prizepools in the world.

Also, LoL's world championship tournaments rake in a crap ton of people in stadiums.
>>
>>284439559
I only recently upgraded to a 1080p Monitor. Monitors are simply very low on the priorities for upgrades since the improvement is so minor outside of gaming and you actually gain more from having a second monitor
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>>284439752

Considering both companies have been caught faking numbers before, yeah, I don't.

If you want to believe, based on information given to you by the very same companies, feel free
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>>284438936
>3840x2160
>0.02%
Feels good man
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>>284440040
Name a large video game publisher that hasn't been caught faking numbers before.
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>>284440040
Nice sources there faggot
>>
>>284440040
Where was it confirmed that Valve fake their player numbers? I'm curious to know.
>>
>>284439894

I agree that getting a second monitor is more effective for productivity, but when I went from 1920x1200 I was still very pleased with the increase of screen real estate and slightly higher pixel density. I tried going back to 1080p gaming on a 24 inch monitor again and it felt REALLY underwhelming, despite the higher framerates.

Also, when I'm working, I have more space everyhwere. A 4k monitor would be the shit though.
>>
So if I am thinking about not buying a 970, what AMD card is just as good?
>>
>>284440096

We both know that I could, if I wanted to.
>>
>>284440224
Then do it.
>>
>>284439559
Is it really that good? What are the benefits over 1080p? Especially if you retain a 24" sized monitor (my opinion of the best sized monitor, anything else makes you have to move further back to take in the whole frame, lessening your view quality for the details,thus negating the point of having higher resolutions)
>>
>>284440201
Read the thread, your question has already been answered
>>
>>284440224
Post it then faggot
>>
>>284440201
One of the Sapphire 290 or 290x's, or you could wait for AMD's 300 series.
>>
>>284440305
>>284440321
Thanks, will read through again
>>
>>284440290

I have a 27"/1440p, and honestly I don't want to go back to 24"/1080p as my main monitor (I kept my old one as a secondary). More screen real estate and significantly more noticeable definition when gaming.

BUT, if you have a 1080p monitor right now, you're probably better of staying with it until one day 4k becomes a lot more affordable and manageable with 2016/2017 GPUs.

Just my personal thoughts.
>>
>>284440092

>4800X2560
>Not on the list.

Did I forget to survey....
>>
>>284440417
any 290 card is good, faggots spamming sapphire are no better than the shills with the evga meme
>>
>>284440703
Sapphire is generally one of the more reputable AMD manufacturers.
Which is great considering they also tend to have the best price/performance ratio.
Though MSI and Asus are also good.
>>
>>284440703
>any 290 card is good

No. The thing is that while other coolers are "fine", Sapphire's Tri-X and Vapor-X are factually the best. Best temps and quietest.
>>
>>284440703
>>284440849

Or just buy Gigabyte for being the cheapest and on par with Asus Direct 20%price+ cooling
>>
>>284440703

The cards might be fine, but the coolers can vary a lot. Especially in the noise department.
>>
>>284440920

Gigabyte's cards are loud as fuck though.
>>
>>284440703
Some brand have worse temperatures than other due to different cooling solutions they use.
Also, don't forget that some brands have worse coil whine than others.

Generally, Sapphire and MSI are good.
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