>playing csgo >buy this gun >"hey fag why dont

CS people don't realize that slowing down to get a better shot is mechanically the same as iron sights, albeit it is a bit more difficult to master as the game leaves it up to your, rather than hitting a button for a speed limiter.

>>284267934

cs people are fucking retards

>>284267795
It's why I don't play CS. It made sense back with 1.6 because modeling visual recoil and things like that were expensive and sometimes limiting depending on the engine.

But fucking 2015? No, it's easy as fuck to have visual representation of aiming. It's not like having that visual element means you have to be CoD and have no recoil patterns or anything like that.

It's like having a fucking game where all the animations aren't as big as the actual hitboxes in this day and age. Just fucking retarded and lazy.

This is why no one will ever take video games seriously as a competitive sport. In any other sport if someone does something completely allowed in the rules to gain an advantage the other team congratulates them for their tactical work, in video games all the other player does is come up with excuses for why you did something they could have done too that caused them to lose while using degrading language.

Mostly because the fact that you can use the scopes makes them noob-bait. Particularly on T side because the AK is a better choice in almost every situation, and it's also cheaper.

That said if they're making fun of you for it chances are they aren't particularly fantastic themselves.

>>284268487
this
remember kids, in call of duty or battlefield you arent allowed to use shotguns, assault rifles knives, grenades, grenade launchers, rocket launchers, pistols, smgs, you also arent allowed to get coverage behind a wall, this is called camping, although everyone does this in real life, in those very realistic military games you are not allowed to do so

>>284267934
Holy shit seriously, I don't see why so many people don't realize this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB6fq9Aadwk

>>284268746

you're allowed to do everything in battlefield 4, i never see people complain or talk shit to you for using something

bf4 vs csgo is a bad comparison because the communities are not even remotely the same

csgo is filled with anime lovers/wiggers/attention seeking girls/prepubescent children/everybody just yelling and talking shit on the mic, etc.

you'll hardly come across a toxic person in bf4

>>284267795
heres another thing they should include:
bullets actually going where they aim

>>284267795
pick up a wheel gun, OP

people complain about the aug yet they use awps

>>284267795
Aug and SG are top tier if you can use them well.

>mfw still have my original Hot Rod Aug

>>284269169
to be honest i dont play games like cod or bf that much, i just remember that on the ps3 version of bf3 there were so many faggots complaining about whatever you were doing, same goes for every call of duty

so is it frowned upon to crouch every time I start shooting at someone?

>>284269169
I've played quite a bit of BF4 on PS4 and the community is really nice, no hitler server admins, etc.
The only thing that pisses people off is the UCAV, which honestly deserves it, its super cheap.

CS:GO has some cool people, but in general it's terrible. Nothing is better than doing better than some trash talking twelve year old.
I don't get the hate behind russians though, I've never played a bad game with a russian, they were all cool dudes.

>>284269341
>>284269092
ayy

>>284269558
>>284269524

i'm strictly talking about bf4 on pc

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>Get Silver Elite
>Everybody on my friends list says that I'm "King of the Retards" and I'll bring their score down

>They're all Gold Nova 2s and 3s.

I can't be THAT bad, can I?

>this FPS got a terrible community

name one FPS community that is not horrible or dead

>>284269472
Seriously. I fucking demolish people with the SG. Not going to change my playstyle because of whiny faggots.

>>284269724
I've played a few hours of BF4 CTE and it was incredible, people talking in chat, strategies, etc.
Wish I had bought the game on the superior platform.

so /v/ basically wants cs to be more like modern shooters

lol

>>284269526
>catch sight of another person
>catches sight of you
This goes 2 ways
SCENARIO 1: (least likely)
>you crouch
>he aims high because he doesn't know whats going on
>you, using your slightly improved accuracy, finish him off
>hopefully a stray bullet doesn't kill you before

SCENARIO 2:
>you crouch
>the player, being smart, is still aimed quite solidly at your previous center of mass, and may expect a probable headshot as a result of recoil
>you're crouched, so you ain't goin anywhere fast
>his bullets connect immediately with your cranium

Basically, the mobility is more valuable than the slight accuracy improvement. Though if you find it works for you, keep doing it.

>>284269881
RO2 seems 50/50 a lot of the time. I've come across servers full of people who knew what they were doing and were really cool and then others with retards who were camping as the fucking squad leader.

>>284270012
This

Took me so long to break the habit of crouching whenever i shoot in CS.

>>284269772

My friend is complete fucking garbage. He throws grenades at complete random, shoots his teammates constantly, and tries to get knife kills when the enemies have their backs to him.

He's Gold Nova 2.

Rank means nothing until long past Golden AK.

>>284267795
maybe because it's a half life mod, you retard.

>>284270012
thanks gabe

>>284269881

battlefield 4

every fps community is better than the csgo community, csgo is the cod of pc fps

>>284270012
its more likely like a scenario 3
>you see someone
>shoot entire mag and miss
>they notice and shoot 2 bullets
>both headshots

>>284267795
>No sense of realism
>No Iron Sights
>Shooting is like RNG, it almost feels luck based
>Graphics haven't changed since 2004 apart from it looking even more cartoon-like
>No customization unless mods, and mods are shit
>Skins make the game seem more like paintball and is childish
>Worse fan base amongst cod, 14 - 15 year old fat kids who think its an rl military sim

Seriously but, I made $300 of a skin, for some shitty knife. Tiger tooth bayonet, who honestly pays $300 for a useless skin that is purely cosmetic.

>>284267795
>ctrl-f "bot(s)
>nothing

what the fuck /v/ you suck, you should be crucifying this kid for playing with bots.

>>284269881
RiP KF (kf2 hype)
RiP tribes
RiP pre-hats tf2

>>284270269

G I T
I
T

G U D
U
D

>>284269526
no

you get less recoil

>>284270012
>crouch and pepper
>bullets fly everywhere but my enemy

>stand and pepper
>instant headshot death ray
And it only took me 2 years to figure it out!

Why do weebs love this game? I feel like 90% of people who play video games and frequent /a/ have 4-digit+ play times

CSGO is casual fucking trash. The worst counter strike ever

>>284270248
Are we still pretending BF4 isn't consolised Jewish garbage?

>>284270269
>shoot entire mag and miss
I'd say git gud, but the cone of fire fucks me over something fierce semi-regularly

>>284270346
cs is a game for younger kids with hours of free time on their hands, it takes an almost autistic level of dedication to *really* get good and I ain't got time for that no mo, did that once with cowadooty and neva again. dark souls works for me

>>284270346
>Seriously but, I made $300 of a skin, for some shitty knife. Tiger tooth bayonet, who honestly pays $300 for a useless skin that is purely cosmetic.
the only reason to actually play this shitty game

>>284270213

>2015

it's not a mod any more

Adding iron sights to a game where you already get perfect accuracy when stationary would be redundant and slow down dumber players. It's all about pre-aiming commonly-used routes, stutter stepping to quickly get accurate, and tapping the guy dead. It also makes strafing viable. Most good players can do this so fast that you see very little lost mobility on aiming and it makes the game have a much more consistent pace than all these new AAA shooters that grind the game to a crawl when you actually want to take shots and making yourself extremely vulnerable to getting shot at.

>>284269881
>name one community that is not horrible or dead because my opinion matters over all

fixd for ya

>>284267795
They complain because most aug/sg buyers play call of duty style (rush into enemy territory with ads, no recoil control, no awereness) and die like retards. Which is a great portion of sg/aug users

The other portion can one click headshot with it and kill without scope if nessesary

>>284270541
>did that once with cowadooty

Hi kid.

>>284270519
i know im a bad player which is why i only play on occasion but holy fuck bullets in csgo have even more rng than world of tanks

>>284270358

i took the screenshot off google images retard

>>284270358
I don't think that's a screenshot the OP took, bro. And if you read the post, he's clearly playing with humans, unless the bots are shitting on him about the scope. I'm sure they'd much rather some ice cream.

>>284268487
>>284268746
I disagree that you aren't "allowed".

It's just that it's not being a good sport. Granted, in competitive games being a good sport shouldn't amount to more than being a player who isn't a dick.

However, in things like table top games, being a competitive shit who min-maxes is grounds for me to not want you in the game.

>>284270568
that doesn't matter.

people have been playing cs for almost 20 years now. there's no reason to drastically change the game. if they were going to make a more realistic fps they might as well just make a new ip. too bad valve doesn't really make games, just buys mods.

>>284270710
Only shoot in 2 round bursts for the AK and 3 round for every non-ak AR when totally stationary for maximum accuracy. And learn to counter the "usual" recoil pattern when spraying close range.

>bitching about randomization of stuff that was explained why they are like that one billion times in lots of places
>every CS thread on /v/
as a matter of fact
>every dota thread on /v/

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>>284269341

If only the game would let me

>>284269169
As somone who plays both csgo and bf4

That's bullshit and you fucking know it.

Everytime I just see hackusation and general cancer, don't forget using ACE23 is literally being hitler and you will get spammed in chat for using a gun in the game

And let's not forget servers that restrict usage of equipment avaible in-game.

I have never heard of anyone giving anyone a hard time for using the aug or any other weapon besides the auto sniper.

I'm thinking someone was complaining about someone else using the auto sniper and OP thought they were talking to him becuase hes a self absorbed little paranoid brat.

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>>284271235
>No rockets
>no grenades
>no insert half of the weapon selection here

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>>284270710
a good player can counter the spray and hit very close the the exact point they aim for

>>284270012
Or, Scenario 3, as it is often seen in high-level play,
>players see each other
>in a split second, both players stop, flick their crosshair to their opponent's head, and fire multiple shots, compensating for recoil
>winner is determined by who could hit their enemy quicker, the weapons they both were using, whether or not they were flashed, and many other things

its almost like you guys can't realize that there are many things to think about at a given moment

>>284270667
first one came out 12 years ago buckarooo

>>284270541
enjoy your ban underage friend :^)

>>284271336
>banned: used c4

You must be silver. Any good player knows the aug is better than the m4 or ak if you can use it.

>Playing a game that has been almost exactly the same for 15 years.

>>284267795
>AUG
It's a shit gun. Recoil pattern is predictable for the first few shots, but the recoil itself is huge . It's MORE EXPENSIVE than an M4, and it's counterpart is more expensive than an AK-47.

You wasted money on something worse than a Famas. You could've bought Famas, and a full set of grenades.

I realize this is a troll thread well beyond it's intended life span, but no one everyone who buys an AUG or SG553 needs to be laughed at. It's a shit gun for shit players.

>>284272062
That's ironic because last i recall, sg/aug are for people who can't aim and don't know how to recoil control

The AK/m4 is way cheaper than the sg/aug. Unless ofcourse you're that guy that doesn't buy nades or defuse kits

And let me guess, you're a nova.

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>>284272062
>it's good if you're good

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AW ITS A PIZZA CAKE SUEZ

>>284270012

The small advantage you will see some players using is that crouching is an automatic way to counter recoil. You tap it on the first 2 bullets. Basically, you're standing for the first one, and by the 2nd you're mid-crouch and it puts the 2nd bullet at headshot level. Outside of that, there's no reason to use it unless you're comfortable with spraying a lot.

>>284270186

Rank means nothing period. You can tell this to casual players, but they don't believe you. The skill gaps are huge between players who play leagues and players who don't.

>>284269772
Anything below DMG is a "silver". However, I'm still trying to convince myself that most DMGs should be silver. Ranks aren't anywhere near as important as the player. If you don't place as a DMG though, something's definitely wrong.

>>284272272
i dont care what you recall you shit lord

the ak/m4 are cheaper because theyre worse guns
call any pro that uses the aug a nova

fucking shitters man

>>284272558
You have anything to backup your statement?

Sure I can one tap headshot at the cost of

No armor
No nades
No defuse kit

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>>284272558
>worse guns

>>284267934
>CS people don't realize that slowing down to get a better shot is mechanically the same as iron sights, albeit it is a bit more difficult to master as the game leaves it up to your, rather than hitting a button for a speed limiter.

Well not exactly

The whole point of iron sights is analog sticks can't be both fast and precise. So you have two aiming modes, one with fast aiming that you can't reliably cursor over shit, but you can turn quickly - and one with slow aiming, zoomed in so you don't notice it's slower, and so you can see better in low resolution. Its designed to overcome console hardware limitations of both the controller and the display.

PC games only need shit like that for long distances. Iron sights are basically medium range zoom, which is unnecessary for PC hardware.

You're exactly right about the movement speed reduction though. It's there in console FPS because fast movement with slow aiming and a narrow FOV wouldn't be useful, but in the end they both ensure that players can't move fast and shoot well at the same time.

There's a lot of fancy ways to combine movement with shooting in CS, but it's still fucking casual like iron sights. Stopping to shoot isn't hard, but shooting a moving target is. That's why CS became so popular IMO. The average PC gamer couldn't handle a fast arena shooter, so they liked a game where other players had to stand still when shooting back.

>>284272847
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THAT DOG

>>284272768
>one tap headshot
SG553 and AUG will only do so when someone doesn't have armor.

SG553 and AUG are obviously shit guns. They are not good at all. I can control an AK47/m4 from long pit to A plat using a 6 shot spray. With the AUG/SHITGUN553 you're aiming at your own dick trying to hold the recoil.

I agree CS players are elitist as all fuck, but why do you need ironsights when you have crosshairs rendered onto your screen?

>>284273072
SG553 is one shot like AK.
AUG is two shots like M4
Get fucking good, you cockbag.

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Objectively best gun in each category coming through

>Pistol: Desert Eagle
>Heavy: Nova
>SMG: Mac-10
>Rifle: M4A4

>>284273214
The SG553 range is no where near the AK. How about your practice with some bots or something. I'm a silver 3 and I'm better than you.

>>284273214
AUG is 1 headshot with armor.

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>>284273284
>silver 4

>>284273373
>>284273382
Both of you need to shut up and go play the game for more than your measly 300 hours.

>>284273284
The Macaroni hasn't got shit on the MP7 nigga

>>284273373
>>284273382
Yeah, go tell that to /csgog/

>>284273490
You need to try shoot people in the head at distance, instead of your measly 3 meters.

>>284267795
>playing on silver level

the lower you go, the more faggots appear

>SAS are the most prevalent Counter Terrorists
>The GSG-9 are literally only on Overpass if you mainly play Bomb Defusal
>The GIGN are only on cbble and Cache
>The SWAT are only on Vertigo
>The Somali Pirates are only on Seaside
>Anarchists are only on Office
>FBI are Hostage Rescue only except for Seaside
>Some voice commands involve hostages specifically, even if you're not playing Hostage Rescue

good job Valve

>>284273481
He's got 27 wins give him a break

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>>284274349
I miss choosing my model, fuck it being an FPS. I miss that standard in PC gaming and what they did in GO is just dicks.

>>284267934
Holy shit you're retarded.

>>284268278
I don't know what any of this means when there were plenty of Goldsource games back then that had fully 3D modeled iron sights and as such aiming mechanics.

>>284269341
only 8 years old and hes talking about drive bys!

>>284275153
Explain to me how its different, please.

>>284268746

>call of duty
>battlefield
>realistic

pick one and only one.

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>mfw salty tears when carrying with a p90

>>284271235
>>284269169

Also, the SCAR and ACE 52 and anything that does too much damage is also not allowed in competitive play because it doesn't give the enemy enough time to respond and fight back.

This is the same thought pattern to why the headshot multiplier only is 2x and hitting someone in the head will do less than 50% to them.

Hilarious to see /v/ talk about this game!

>>284275535

>All I have is a Mac-10
>Dodge an AWP shot
>Rush them down while they're trying to quickswitch to make it ready faster

Why is the Mac 10 so good

>>284267795
i could never get into csgo because of that. like what the fuck i have iron sights on my gun why would i fire from the hip like a fucking idiot

>>284271661
Yee haw?

>>284275783

I know!

And why would I have to buy weapons when I'm deployed by the military?! And the bomb has the same defuse code every single round. Why wouldn't the terrorists change it?! So unrealistic.

>>284269558
>csgo
>cool people
all in that game are professional meme spouters

CS:GO is for kids who still think 1337 speak is a thing and type n00b in chats. It's embarrassing.

>>284267795
>"hey fag why dont you use a real gun!!!!111"
Who the hell says that? I've pretty much never heard anyone complain about the SG/AUG not being viable after they were buffed beyond their 1.6 counterparts a year or two ago.
Either way, sights would be redundant in this game, because all the guns are already as accurate as they should be anyway. It would add nothing to the core gameplay. Hell, I use the AUG sights almost solely for the zoom, not better accuracy.

"Then why not just add ADS, make the guns less accurate without it?"
Because CS is a game about movement. Accuracy is indirectly-proportionate to speed, more so than other pseudo-realistic games, and timing shots exactly when you're standing still is a key skill in the game that would be lost if a modal accuracy function was introduced. Winning by controlling movement is much more interesting then winning by pressing the aim button first. I have nothing against ADS, but it isn't CS. It doesn't need to be something it's not for the sake of looking like other games. That's like saying CoD should have independent head movement, because ARMA has it and it's "more realistic."

>>284276093
Look at this n00b. Top kek go back to CoD scrub.

>>284271235

Also, the million kiddies who cry about vehicles (esp. Tanks and Scout choppers) in a Battlefield game

Why do you think they're coming out with Hardline? It's just a shitty BF4 mod that focuses on infantry at the expense of vehicles and combined arms play.

>>284275747
>all I have is a mac-10
You should've bought armor and a fiveseven/tec9. If you picked up the mac-10 you should've immediately dropped it if you had one of those pistols.

>>284274793
>27 wins
>he's buying asimovs and fucking awp redlines

yea no

>>284276185
>>284275632
I literally had no experience with this.

What platform?

>>284276239

>doubting the Mac-10
>He doesn't know the satisfying feeling of being able to headshot someone while running laps around them and jumping

>>284270368
of those all I've played is tribes and from my experience the community is god awful. of course it's dead now so clearly doesn't fit his requirements

>>284267795
cause cs people are very elitist and like the nostalgia

>>284273373
Are you kidding? It has higher base accuracy, even unscoped. The only disadvantage is 300 more dollars and slightly slower movement.

>>284273382
Only at arm's length.

>>284276390

PC

Especially on the CTE forums.

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unboxed this today
im happy with it :3

>>284270892
>He doesn't min-max whenever possible

What are ye, a casual?

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>>284267795
2 Fundamental rules of online FPSs:

1: Everything that kills me for any given reason is OP.

2: The only things that are not OP are the things I use.

When I got bored with Ghosts I started throwing knives at everything and got a bunch of lucky shots and people would always say "OMG just use a gun like everyone else, knives are so cheap." These people were uniformly using silenced AK12s and often hiding in corners.

TL;DR: Idiots will complain about anything and everything.

>>284268487
>nobody complains about diving in soccer

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>>284277090

I remember the first time I thought I unboxed something good, too.

>>284267795
>people complain about the AUG for silly reasons
>they don't complain about OP shit like the AK47 and Tec-9
I don't understand.

>>284277242
is that meant to be a jab at me or something?
because if so, have fun trying to jab at me with that useless knife lol

>>284273284
>Deagle
>Best Pistol

Kek
Try the Tec-9, the only thing that comes close is the Five-SeveN

>>284277242
>silver 4
>28 wins
>gets a fucking knife first unbox

fuck i hate this world

>>284275783
I hate nonsense like this! Seriously, being unable to see my feet was the sole reason I stopped playing first person games. Except Mirror's Edge. And I quit that game because it also only had hipfire.

>>284277513
>actually gives a shit about skins

yeah, i hate this world as well, especially since drones like you are allowed to live in it

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anyone mg2ish want to play? i was there before inactive

no ragers weirdos bullies autists etc

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>>284277090
>not unboxing this

Kek
It was from my second chroma case

>>284277609
I don't give a shit about skins, but I give a shit about money.

>>284277712
>giving a shit about money

Autist as fuck.

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>>284267795
>First time in CSGO, playing like shit because I don't know weapon controls or bullet spreads
>Just testing out the guns, trying to feel them out
>Take the SCAR for a spin and grab a few kills
>Player on the enemy team calls me a faggot noob for using the auto sniper
>He's using the AWP
I can't even make this up if I tried.

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>>284268487
Are you implying that kids who sit in corners don't complain about whatever people use to remove them?

Ever played CoD and thrown some C4 into a room full of fags lying down with SMGs?

Besides, are you really defending cheesiness?

I mean, cheesiness is a legitimate tactic but don't act like it ain't cheap. People should be able to deal with such nonsense, but they shouldn't have to.

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>>284267795

>>284267795

>>"hey faggot why don't you go back to xbox and call of duty if youre going to use that gun"

The irony is they're the retards if they say this. Literally anyone with any skill knows the m4 and the AK are better weapons than the SG or AUG.

They are far too stupid to make it into competitive or play community servers, just wait it out.

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>tfw listening to the cries of man children over the gunfire of my auto

>>284277990
Why not both?

What nobody mentioned is how the ironsights on the aug don't actually do anything other than zoom in.

>>284270078
Watching Squad Leaders in that game can be some of the most excruciating spectating I've ever done. It's like people forgot they carry smoke grenades. And even then, people haven't figured out it's best to throw smoke ontop of the enemy so they can't see out of their position, instead of shooting our guys as they run through the smoke.

>>284277990
That only makes sense if ironsights slow you down, which admittedly they do in many games.

>>284277990
>ironsights are shitty in ARMa and RO:2

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>>284277990
>>284277990

>>284277662
are you trying to make me upset? why do people feel the need to "one-up" constantly
>>284277938
you're both awful
just use weapons you want to use
besides, awp is a tactical weapon, and forces you to actually do something other than rush through a point

>>284269092
someone needs to use the CS GORE EXTREME with that ISIS music

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>>284277990
This

>>284278218
What else would they do?

>>284277990

Except that's wrong because in many games both iron sights and without iron sights its moving = less accurate. Still = more accurate.

Moving the viewmodel in front of your face changes nothing. You have a problem with reducing accuracy while moving, not iron sights.

>>284278240
The worst is when they throw the smoke right on the path we need to go to attack the point, but lie, in the middle of the path 100 feet from the point. So yeah, we're protected the on the first stint only to get gunned down right as we leave the smoke.

>>284278435
actually you're wrong about accuracy being the same hipfire as iron-fire

>>284269257
Learn to shoot then silver fag lol

>>284278318

Saved for fish-gun.

>>284277990

Except in a lot of games you can move while ADSing.

>>284278336
>You're both awful
Your post is so retarded, I doubt you even read mine. But here's a reply.

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>>284267934
>>284268070
>>284268871


> people don't realize that slowing down to get a better shot is mechanically the same as iron sights

But people don't slow down in games with ADS though you fucking retards. Just look.

http://youtu.be/DEcdFqxSwxM

The main difference between CS and everything else is that moving while shooting is almost never effective.

>>284269391
Awp is a normal gun. Using the aug is like using the autosniper. It takes less skill to hit.

>>284278606
is this really what /v/ is now? nobody actually reads what anyone says because they're too scared that someone might say they fell for bait?
please i just want to talk about videogames holy shit

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Does anyone extremely broke want a chroma case? I just got another one

>>284269890
Rank ?

>>284278667
>No one reads what anyone says
Are you even literate? Take a look at the first post, then look at yours, and try to think long and hard if your reply makes any sense whatsoever

>>284277090
< minimal wear

>>284278645
except all they would need to do is make it so that ADS isnt perfectly pinpoint accurate, exactly like the way the it is in CS right now

How to use sighted weapons in cs
>see a guy, stop moving, crouch, ADS, shoot him in the head
how to use unsighted weapons in cs
>see a guy, stop moving, crouch, shoot him in the head

all aiming iron sights would do is create a cute little visual effect. It's completely superfluous but dont say that adding iron sights to all the guns would change anything

>>284269169
People rage at me all the time for using QBS/DMR/AEK/BULLDOG/DEAGLE/G18

>>284270269
Wow then you must be a noob.

>>284278779
silver 1

>>284277712
>merely considers playing video games as a source of income

>on deathmatch for practice
>get 1shotted by awps, AK-47s, or M4A4/A1-S at every turn
I just want to get better at the game dammit.

>>284270346
Shooting is only rng if you don't know how it works.

>>284270460
L2p noob

>>284278907

Aiming the AUG and SG reduces the recoil.

>>284278927
Don't forget ACE 23 and the AK5C

>>284267795
Because CS kiddies have a complex about not being manly enough to hang out with papa quake and uncle UT.

>>284279173
I don't actually use those, most of the time I forget which ACE is supposed to be the OP one, love dat AEK fire rate.

Also, silenced Deagle, fucking amazing.

>>284273284
Lol retard

>>284279164
yes but it doesnt change how the weapon is fundamentally played.

If they gave the M4 and AK a tiny deviation/recoil reduction with iron sights it would be used the exact same way as it is now. Super close range: spray no sights, any other range: stop crouch (ADS) shoot him in the head.

>>284273373
Of course you are silver 3 ... you play with the sg. If you want a range gun buy an AWP

>>284278907

Are you pretending to be retarded? Did you just decide not to read what i said?

>>284267795
>''hey faggot get a job''
>work a mcjob
>''hey faggot get a ''real'' job''
>go to school and eventually become a cop
>''fucking pigs, I hate cops!''

>>284267934
Except that in Cs normalyl when you stop you do it for a fraction of a second and just shoot. To scope is an extra animation and time which cs players don't like.

also don't like that it blurrs and the ironsights restrict view, better off just mastering the AK and getting headshots without bothering to even scope or restrict view.

>>284270346

>No Iron Sights
Discipline is not bad.

>Shooting is like RNG
Objectively less RNG than almost every ADS shooter, as recoil view offset is not random, but it is in Call of Duty, Battlefield, Crysis, and almost every other shooter.

>Graphics haven't changed since 2004
Objectively wrong again. In a world of opinions, you've gone above and beyond and said something factually incorrect twice.

>Worse fan base amongst cod
Get out of silver and TDM.

they're trolling you, no one actually cares that you use that gun.

>>284275747
It's not good, the AWPer was shit.

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>Really like the Baggage Collection skins
>The Leather P90 has the Counter-Terrorist logo on it

>>284279341

ACE 23 is the "OP" Assault rifle

ACE 52 is the "OP" carbine.

>>284273167
Kind of why cs players don't like ironsights, extra animation and view restriction when you already have the damn crosshair. The zoom in is only useful long range but if you're not shit you can hit them anyway.

>>284278907

If CSGO implemented ADS no one would take the time to use it unless it acted like it does in most fps's.

1. Increase zoom
2. increase accuracy

Your wrong. It is mechanically different and would completely change the game. Just like if you striped ADS out of COD.

>>284280012
>OP
Last time I checked, their majority of its' stats was better than nearly everything else in their respective classes.

Why is getting 30 or more kills in one game called a 30 bomb

I don't get this terminology

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>>284279039
As someone who regularly plays DM and GG and does well it does slowly make your reaction time better. I'm terrible at the core game itself though and am too scared to play comp because I hate being judged by strangers. Strategy and map awareness and shit are my weakness. I'm not cut out for any iteration of CS but its still fun to me. I'd give up my fighting game abilities for general FPS skill any day. I'm solid but I want to be god like.

Every CSGO gun someone has a problem with. It doesn't matter.

>>284270346
>Seriously but, I made $300 of a skin
Guess why it became popular. Before first cosmetics update, more people or on par played 1.6 or Source.

How do I fix my mouse feeling like it springs back?

>>284279039

E-ever consider playing offline bots? That can teach you the maps pretty well, which can be more important than just gun skill alone.

>>284270710
>have even more rng than world of tanks
Don't even get me started on WoT I've had times where I'm in a tier V heavy tank and against another tier V heavy with the reticule being the color for 100% chance of penetrating then I end up hitting them with like 15 shells all of them doing no damage while my tank takes 4 of his shells before I'm dead

>>284280843
knowing the map wont help when you need to find the enemy.

>>284270710

see: >>284271442

Spray is barely random... it's actually recoil that can be managed.

WOOHOO

RUN LEETLE GIRLS

RUN

>>284269092

What's the music playing during CS Extreme? Sounds familiar.

I never liked CS. It was always a major camp fest. unless you threw the flash grenade around the right corner, you were dead if you had to be aggressive.

As much as I try I can't enjoy CS:GO. Even if you crouch without moving the guns never seem to shoot straight.

>>284278414
Increase accuracy in any way, like it does on the sniper rifles. It's literally useless, since the added zoom isn't useful anyway, since the maps aren't big enough and the gun's accuracy at range isn't good enough to warrant a working scope.

>>284280980
Sure, you will know common hiding spots retard.

>>284278645
Accuracy is inversely proportional to speed, thus making the player go slower to aim better. If that doesn't mechanically define what many would call an "ADS System" then I don't know what does. CS has it in place where you can do the whole stutter-step thing (which I certainly don't have down), so there's that.

>>284281406
You've never played counter strike

>>284277662
I unboxed one of these today without the stattrak.
Thought, "oh this is fun. lets sell it and try again."
Bought $35 worth of cases and keys. Didn't get shit

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Reminder that the Professionals are objectively the best Ts, and the SWAT are objectively the best CTs.

Anyone who disagrees can get jacked, man.

I use SG556 as my main weapon and get usually a lot better results than my friends and teammates who use AK47. It's more accurate than AK and the scope gives real advantage in long ranges. People have complained a few times 'waaaah l2p cod noob' but it's just because they get rekt. Don't give a shit about them and use a gun which suits for you.
Before anone asks, I play at DMG level

>>284282056
>not leet crew

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Know why the community of BF4 on pc is so god tier?

Because most of the players are pc masterace and have a decent job/social life to even be able to afford such high quality game

Unlike csgo which is like 3 dollars on steam, even retarded pinoy immigrants who pour dog shit for a living could afford it, thats why the community is filled with stupid raging niggers

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>>284278647
>your post

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how do i get good at cs:go?

Every time I play it's completely random if I get 3 lucky kills in a row one round or if I just get one shotted instantly for 8 rounds.

It's insanely frustrating to no end, but the moments when you help the team win are amazing.

I will settle for the scrubbiest tactics, the cheapest shortcuts, the lamest strategies.

How do I shoot niggas better?

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>G-GIT GUD
>I-IT'S NOT THE GAME'S FAULT
>I HAVE S-SKILL IT'S N-NOT LIKE I'M LUCKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J84-CjIVBpc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7em1EqkB6w

>>284267795
I've been called a noob while playing casual (usually when I play with friends, otherwise casuals suck since its full of people worst than bots) for using every gun, with the exception of ak/m4.

It's been the same for 15 years, people will find a way to blame something on their death and will not accept the fact that you're better than them. If you're retarded enough to listen to them and make a bitch post on 4chan, then that's your problem, not the game's or the game's community.

>>284282516
Positioning and recoil management.

>>284282239

Get ready, it is going to explode! :)

>>284282581
These are the people who play CS GO

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>>284282721

No, these are

>>284282809
what a cancerous community

>>284272505
played with dmgs and eagles who suck shit just like anyone its all about who you play with in cs go, solo que chances are if you aren't carrying you lose, find some good bros to play with you are fucking unstoppable

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You gitgud by practicing just like anything else, and just like anything else some people are naturally better at it then others.

You're not going to be able to beat a guy who's been playing for a year even if you've been playing for a week straight. It takes time.

Time to grind skill with this shit just like street fighter I guess.

Wonder if it will take as long to get decent

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>>284271442
>that SG spray pattern
No fucking wonder i can't hit shit with it. That pattern is ridiculous

>>284282809
No, this is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYO3ChcZC-0

>install material skin
>walling all day long on sv pure 0

>>284271442
This doesn't show where the crosshair moves! Desceptive.

>>284283271
You are all wrong, this is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnEfCdZVHsk

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>>284283423
>kennyS
Definately one of my favorite AWPers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcR7hkkKA10

>>284283423
wtf that last shot

>>284283050
lol nice esp dude

>>284283246
It's not that hard to learn plus the scope reduces the recoil.

>literally shilling AWP e celebs
cancer as FUCK

I've never played CS but I've seen a lot of videos of it over the past many months. Can someone explain why people are constantly switching to their knives and then back to their guns?

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>>284283680
>shilling AWP e celebs
What?

>>284283423
>no skill overpowered awp

I see this shit happen all the time in normal games.

>>284284020
Either because it looks cool or because they're using a bolt-action. If the knife stays out for several seconds, it's because you move faster with the knife out.

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>>284284046

>>284283423
>>284283583
>>284283271
>LE FUNNY MEMES

>>284284020
You run faster with lighter weapons equipped. The knife being the lightest one.
If you mean people switching really fast between weapons, that's just ADHD.

How the fuck did CSGO become the most popular fps game in the world right now?

Even my dudebro coworkers who usually play COD are now playing CSGO because they hated Advanced Warfare.

Wasn't CS GO dead like 2 years ago and all the sudden it's popular because of autistic skins?

>>284284504
Cuz your shitty 3rd world living cobro cant afford decent games

>>284284504
Because skins and Valve actually listening to professional players and fixing shit.
Also it's pretty cheap.

>>284284823

Mostly because it's cheap. I don't think new players care about valve fixing problems they never knew existed.

So, yeah, because it's cheap, but also because there's a big lull in console gaming right now. There isn't a hot new killer app that is making people snatch up this next generation of consoles, especially for first person shooters.

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>play CoD for years
>agree that its community is shit
>start playing CS:GO
>squeakers, ragers, and retards thinking they're funny in every single match

CS' community is far fucking worse. My god.

>>284270012
But then why do I see competitive/pro players crouching during gunfights?

>>284284823

>Valve tries to fix Hostage Rescue so people at least try it competitively
>Nobody ever does
>Valve tries to fix Train
>Everyone still hates it

>CS
>crouch so you may hit someone

kek
worst FPS of all times

IRL i'd have better accuracy hipfiring on full auto an AK.

>>284286058
I know that some pro players crouch mid-spray as a way of controlling sprays.
But it seems like everyone has a different opinion on crouching in the game.

>>284286407
Pro players crouch because pro players play vs. pro players and pro players aim at heads.

>>284286407
>as a way of controlling sprays.
No.

>>284286334
>>crouch so you may hit someone
You have a higher chance of winning a duel by ADADing

>>284286463
This

CS:GO is shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrP0ZgWTfk8
>AK47 recoil; an Issue or NOT :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaEfmWr8Jcw
>Shoot and move vs Shooting while moving

>>284286701
realism a shit

>>284286701
>muh realism
Kill yourself

>There are people who don't spam voice commands the entire game

WHERE ARE THE REAL MEN
HOOHOO, FEAR US
YOU WILL CRY LIKE BABIES BEFORE YOU DIE

>>284286820
CHEERS BIG FELLA

>>284286820
My favorite T faction are those Pirates but you only play them on irrelevant maps.
>THIS IS _OUR_ ISLAND!
At least SAS are popular and amazing.

>>284286820
>there are people that don't compliment when a friendly nearby gets #rekt
Truly, the plebest of plebeians.

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>>284286885

>Use Taking Fire, Need Assistance
>"Ah think they're tryin ta kill me"

>>284286513
http://youtu.be/G3jAOcjIBfk?t=4m1s

>n0thing
While not the best, he definitely has a better understanding of recoil control than majority of CSGO players

>>284286746
>>284286787

kek
CS shills

CS is shit.
only the lowest play it
even the worst cod is better than CS tbh

even if i go from CS PC60fpsKB&M to Console30fpsgamepad multiplayer COD/BF/whatever FPS, i'd still have more fun on console because those games dont have insanely unrealistic spread and shit.

AK47 has an effective ~300-400m firing range.
In CS? 5m maybe.

>>284267795
People crying about the AUG are the same retards that complain about people buying AWPs over Scouts. AUG is literally better (and appropriately priced) than the AK in everything but spraydowns.

>>284287046
AUG is worse than AK because it doesn't kill on headshots (it technically does but only at minimal range). It's better than M4 though.

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>>284287004
I can't help but laugh when I hear his voice.

>>284287007
CoD runs 60fps on console.

>>284287007
git gud

>>284286820

>I FEAR NO MAN
>Immediately dinked after finishing saying that

Iron sights are the worst fucking mechanic, it's no fun to obscure over half the screen with a gun.

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I really want to get into CS:GO, but I rubberband so much that it's unplayable. I've tried every fix and running an ethernet cable through my house isn't an option.

>>284287231
>all the CS GO community is shout shitty cancerous memes from dark souls memes
dank menes yo

>>284287423
Get a powerline adapter.

>>284287407
this, it makes it hard to aim for headshots because its so easy to lose targets with half the screen blocked

>>284286701
this people make it seem like such a big deal with handling rifles but its not as much as it seems

>>284287231

>dark souls meme

lel

also nah.
i rather play a non-retard game with somewhat more realistic guns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxmyI-7wLEc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LYDaopMQxk

Pretty much if i pull full-auto on your head, at least a half-mag goes into your head.

Not 5 meters around you into something else.

CS is a joke.

>>284272885

Except this entire post is bullshit because the first real popular game that had iron sights as a major feature was the first call of duty. While i wont say it was the first ever it was the game that had it everyone copied. It was also pc exclusive.

Iron sights are not a console friendly innovation. Its a gameplay feature thats not a "feature" like some of the dumbass bugs people claim to be features like animation canceling and shit.

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>Tribes dead
>UT dead
>Quake dead
>TF2 dead
CS:GO is the only FPS game alive on PC, the game didn't used to be as cancerous though.

Also, don't play Casual mode, it will distort your view on the game. Play Ranked/CEVO/ESEA or some shit.

The game's not even hard, half of the game is nades and half of the game is crosshair placement.

This thread is a goddamn shitshow.

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Reminder that this is the best handgun

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>>284267795

>why don't they just include the ironsight mechanic with all guns, it's 2015

Because it is a mechanic that slows down and dumbs down games. You already have a crosshair in FPS games. Why would you want to aim with sights. Because you are retarded and retarded people like dumbed down games.

>>284287891
it sure is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN0PugVyqL4

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>>284287871

>what is Battlefield

>>284272885
I was with you until your post turned into "Casuls ruined muh quake gaming."

Faggot.

>>284287891
While newbies seem to complain about all guns being RNG. This gun right here is truly RNG.
I still don't understand how them pros hit juan deags so often.

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>>284288141

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsrGFP4cedo

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>>284288059
No Battlefield will ever live up to the masterpiece that was on BC2 on PC.

Hardline was alright though. Still debating on getting it or not.

just for an idea of what type of people on 4chan play csgo

the game didnt have a general on /vg/ until the moment skins were added

The AUG is shit compared to the SG. I'd always pick the M4/M4-s over that pile of dog shit.

>>284287958
You already have to stop to shoot in CS:GO. What difference do iron sights make

>>284288232

>cant go back to BC2 because i wont tolerate the shit hitbox/netcode again
>Bf3 is better but still shit
>bf4 trial, holy shit it feels good here
>bfh beta, better than bf3 but bf4 still seems better
>tfw wont play bf4 because friend cant run it well and have to stick with 3

>>284288256
No joke I still giggle about this once or twice a day, pretty much every day since I noticed it.

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>>284288256

You're forgetting how /vg/ has autistic underaged posters that blatantly wallhack, brag about it in the threads, and stalk actual professional players

>>284288374
DICE/Frosbite is not exactly known for their stellar netcode/hitreg.

>>284281558
>>284277662
>>284277090

You silly people.

Any Steam account that hasn't done any uncrating in CSGO yet has a higher chance to roll something good in the first 15 crates.

Once you get that knife or stattrack asiimov, you're fucked.

Never buy crates and keys for the purpose of unboxing them yourself.

>>284288256

>tfw i hate guns with camos

disgusting
original steel look is always best

>thread has Muh realism arguments
>no actual good points for why CSGO is shit

CSGO is bad, but no one really mentions why.

>>284288554
default glock is fucking ugly though
as is the awp, and aug, five seven

>>284288582
Let's hear it from you then.

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>>284288554

>Original steel look
>He doesn't use the weapons from the Baggage Collection

the First Class AK, Pilot Desert Eagle, Leather P90, Business Class USP-S, First Class Sawed-Off, Coach Class P2000, Commuter Mac-10, and Traveler SG 553 are some of the best skins I've seen in this game.

>>284288582

-insanely unrealistic batshit crazy gunspread
-more kids than cod
-less features than cod

>>284288630
default AWP is beautiful

>>284288694
>leather
the only good one out of the ones you mentioned is Desert Eagle because it's not made of fucking leather

>>284288694

>that P90

No.
Disgusting.

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>>284288765

>If they're wrapped in leather they're completely made of it

>>284288765
Maybe if you're one of those smoke weed erryday people.

Vomit green doesn't appeal to me.

>>284288527
Until they up the tick-rate it's gonna be shit.
Even CS:GO is suffering from this with 64 tick servers. But not as badly.
But having servers with high tick-rate cost more money, and the majority of players are not going to notice so why even bother?

>>284288817
why would you ever wrap your gun in leather, it's retarded

>>284288879
I like it

also that's how they are colored IRL

>>284288675

Smokes are OP ; They give the CTs too big of an advantage.
Flashes are too weak, giving CTs too much of an advantage.
(You can find videos comparing smokes/flashes from different CS games)
Tapping is the weakest in CSGO compared to other CS games.
Jumping, crouching, and going up ladders breaks your hitbox
tec-9 is OP
Five Seven is OP.
Phantom footsteps
Hackers everywhere!

>>284288927
If you play on 128 tick, it's actually so nice.
It's a completely different game.

>>284288965
>tec-9 is OP
>Five Seven is OP
And when/if Valve nerfs those, as they did with CZ, you will complain about P250? Deagle?

I mean I remember 1.6/Source and how Deagle was the only pistol worth shit, but I don't miss that.

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>>284288943

Yeah you're right, minimalist skins like this are horrible, we should just use the rainbow explosions like that on SCAR-20 skin

>>284269169
That is bullshit, you must play very little bf4. By rule of thumb people don't chat or complain, except some asswhipe saying ez from time to time. Even yesterday i got kicked out of a server that had basically all explosives prohibited asides of hand grenades. I was using the grenade launcher but with flash grenades, got kicked because a raging faggot complained that i killed him with the launcher

>>284267795
Because Cs:go is a shitty game and Valve didn't release anything worthwhile since Half Life 2 - Portal 2 was okay but it wasn't their idea in the first place, just like almost all of their games that just got "adapted" [read stolen] from popular mods to their original, way shittier games. Of course you can't say anything bad about Valve because Steam and its sales nor you can say anything bad about Gaben because "le praise gaben" meme straight from /r/pcmasterrace - even though Gaben has nothing to do with the fact that it's publishers that decide to drop prices on their games.
Now let's see what Valve Gaben and Steam have to offer:

- Slightly above average DRM software (It's better than Origin, Uplay and battle.net only because it doesn't require you to stay online 24/7, but few years ago it was still common to not being able to log in because of shitty servers and lack of offline feature)

- Painfully unbalanced and average games that somehow are competitive (because it's okay when Valve does it, only 3 weapons out of dozens are usable in pro scene? absolutely OKAY! Broken "I win" champions in Dota2? ABSOLUTELY OKAY.)

- Vaporware (Steamos and Steambox)

- terrible customer practices: lack of any refund policies, lack of any form of support, releasing shovelware on their platform or games that don't even work in the first place. Even evils from EA do it better.

- Jewish micro-transactions that are literally WORSE than EA or Activision practices. Buying keys for loot crates in tf2 that can actually drop overpowered weapons that make a difference in game? IT'S OKAY WHEN VALVE DOES IT!
Stealing player made skins from workshop in cs:go and charging for them? IT'S OKAY WHEN VALVE DOES IT!

Fuck Valve, Gaben and all people who think Steam is the best thing ever made.

>>284289118
my fav skin is USP Stainless

>>284289108

The p250 needs a nerf since it can 1 shot kill from close range.

The M4 can't even do that.

The Deagle is fine.

It's insane how many eco wins teams can pull off nowadays.

>>284289179

>Not USP Business Class

I bought CS:S for surf and all that stuff, never played it normally. I just bought GO.

How the fuck do I play this shit? I'm getting called a fag for sucking. Just aim for head and tap fire?

>>284289196
eco wins make game more exciting

>>284289227
>leather strap on the suppressor
literally JRPG tier

USP Serum is nice too

>>284288943
>why would you ever wrap your gun in leather
leather cannons were a big thing for a few decades

they didn't work very well

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I only play on 32-player community servers.

How do I stop going 3-14 or worse?

>>284267795
anyone else think upload rate affects how well your bullets connect?

sometimes ill be unloading on some fuck and half a second later he'll die

>>284288305

Adding a superfluous layer of delay over shooting in a reaction based genre is idiocy. It adds absolutely nothing of value to the game and only hinders it.

>>284288965
Valid points. I don't know if i can agree with smokes being OP since i'm only DMG, does not seem too OP at my level.

But I'm surprised Valve has not fixed hitboxes and phantom footsteps. Not to mention the lack of 3D sound.

But saying CS:GO is shit just because of these issues seems a bit harsh.

Csgo is the shittiest fps i have ever played, i love going to tdm matches or gunrun, spray on the run while everyone is crouching and make everyone mad, I've been kicked about 40% of the matches due to be the top on the leaderboards because of playing like this

>>284289352
play competitive you retard

>>284289349
That's pretty interesting.

>>284289352
don't run first

>>284267934
Counter-Strike players' ideas of slowing down to shoot is tapping the opposite direction key to instantly stop moving so they can land their 100% accurate first shot out of their AK, then while pulling their mouse down in an inverse-7 pattern to control the exact spread.

>>284289161
>Broken "I win" champions in Dota2
Bait

>>284289526
>bait
not even close you cock sucking fanboy.

A wheel gun? Only 10 years old and he's already talking about drive bys!

>>284289627

BIRTHDAY PARTY has been planted

>>284289161
>Buying keys for loot crates in tf2 that can actually drop overpowered weapons that make a difference in game?
Confirmed for only playing one hour in tf2

>>284289625
>Champions
>Dota2
Why even bother posting if you haven't played the games you're critiquing?
It's like being a movie critic without actually watching movies.

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>>284289627
I recognize that

>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>NICE DAK DAK DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE
>YOR SOOO GOOOOOOOOOD WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>FUCKING NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB

>>284289627
Buy now and we'll throw in CS EXTREEEME

>>284288965
>Flashes
>too weak
u fokin wot

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>>284289282
>>284289282
>>284289282
help