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ITT: God tier RPGs

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I'll start with a hidden gem.
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Sprite work is terrible, game is incredibly sluggish to start and even when it does it doesn't get that much better, the moving and positioning is fun until you realize that it doesn't work on any important fight which makes the fairy bitch completely useless, the time travel mechanic is complete ass and switching timelines to get help from the other timeline often doesn't make any sense at all.
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You first, OP.
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>>284210530
bought it a couple days ago, should be in on monday, can you give me some info on it OP? it looks like a fun game
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>>284210530
>TT: God tier JRPGs
FTFY
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>>284210530

I thought about getting that. Sell me on it.
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>>284210530
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Suikoden II
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Are you sure you didn't mean
>generic JRPGs with cheesy animu designs
because that's all I'm seeing so far.
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>>284211593
>>284210947
Edgy
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>>284210530
bitch eye too big
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>>284210530
>want to play this game
>game randomly crashes on my R4

Fug
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ITT: weabs that only play shitty generic jrpgs.
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Plebs. Post some real RPGs.
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>>284211854
only if you post one first
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This game was olde tyme fun.
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This and the sequel.
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you cried the first time too
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What FFVI should have been.
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>>284211662
>It's edgy to criticize video games

I don't regret spending money on it except for the times I regret spending money on it.
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>muh hidden gems
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Secret of Mana

Golden Sun II

Final Fantasy XIII
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>>284211748
buy it nig. It's only $20
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>>284212195
What's wrong with them?
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>>284212071
I recently started playing this, its pretty good. I like how you often have to decide if you want to equip the item with the better stats or the more useful ability.
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>>284210530
OP, do you even know what "hidden gem" means?

I'll post one for your consideration. It's amazing. Don't be a fuck, go give it a try.
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>>284212195
Yeah, hidden gem thread. If you want to talk about The 2 hour Order, How much halo is for kiddies, how pc is le mustard race etc. you are free to leave.
4/10 made me reply
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This game was a unique experience. Mixing some STG mechanics with an RPG + have some real time elements there = perfect.

Also the fact that your character could permadie was great.
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Baten Kaitos and Baten Kaitos: Origins.

Origins is one of my favorite games ever.
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>>284210947
I liked the part where every single thing you said was factually wrong
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>>284212071

Do I need to play the first Lufia or can I just skip to II?
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>>284213328
>factually

Literally blowing my mind.
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This game needs more love.
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>>284210530
Just started playing this today. Enjoying it so far.
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>>284212602
That's a pretty nice looking game for the NES.
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>>284213376
2 is actually a prequel, so start go ahead a start with it.
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>>284213532
No, not really.
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>>284212602

That game looks awesome. I just listened to some of the soundtrack and watched the opening cut scene thing.
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>>284210947
>fairy bitch

You meant Aht? Pretty sure her traps work on every single boss except the final boss because there's no space to put them. And even then she has other skills she can use. Not optimal but not "completely useless".

As for everything else, pull the stick out of your ass.
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>>284211097
>>284211326
For a game centered around time travel, there are almost no plot holes. Once you do a stage in a sidequest, you don't need to go back and do that step ever again, since "True History" reads as you having done that along the way.

Almost all of the characters get fleshed out, with the exception of maybe one, and sidequests are used to get characters extra skills.

Gameplay is very easy to get into, but also requires a lot of thought. Switching turns around leaves your character(s) vulnerable but also potentially sets you up for huge chain attacks, which gives a solid tradeoff. 99% of the bosses can be afflicted by poison, so buy a lot of poison wings.
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>>284213470
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Just don't get enough party member betrayals in games
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>>284212313
I live in a third World Country, if its not FIFA, Mario or CoD or any other mainstream game you have a hard time finding a game let alone at reasonable price.

Going to the USA in a couple of weeks though guess Ill have to wait
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>>284213532
>great concept, terrible execution
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>>284213038
I'd rather have a new Baiten Kaitos than a new Xenoblade.
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>>284214498
It'd be cool if they made a jrpg for 3DS with a similar card battle system
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>>284214135
Theres like 2 or 3 bosses where her traps don't work, but even without them she is still one of the best party members for building up combos.
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>Tales will never have combat this well thought out ever again
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The NDS sure had a lot gems.
This game has a magic system à la Arx Fatalis and it worked great.
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>>284212914
stop recommending this unplayable garbage
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>>284211673

wow the translation in that game made me cringe hard
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>>284215079
It had online multiplayer too..
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>>284215157
Maybe you need to git gud then. I had no trouble finishing this.
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>>284215157
>unplayable
It controls perfectly. You don't even need to go through all the tutorials.
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>>284210676
Everybody always jumps down this game's throat with the "muh escapism" and the legit complaints about the law system, but god damn were the character progression mechanics great. I loved this game with a passion.

Rebalance patch incoming never ever.
http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=9817.0
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>>284215283
Eh I can read it in moonrunes so I didn't notice it

How bad was the translation?
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So far nobody has posted a single "god tier" (J)RPG. Weak
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>>284215473
it wasn't
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>>284215495
I agree, but
>here we go
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>>284214705

here's your response

happy now?
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>>284215662
What? chrono trigger is God tier.
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>>284215473

every character speaks like a fucking hip kid from detroit
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>>284210530
>hidden gem
>nobody shuts the fuck up about it
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>inb4 2nd disc
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I think a lot of people are confusing God Tier with Good Tier.
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>>284210530
albion
anvil of dawn
ArxFatalis
Arcanum
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>>284215495
That's just High Tier, close though.
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>>284210530
>God tier RPGs
>only JRPGs
Let's fix that.
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>>284215495
Neither have you.
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Strongest srpg. Followed closely vy ogre, nothing else comes close.
twilight of the spirit is excellent too if you like generic stuff
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>>284216396
Seems like it. Then again we'd have a very short thread on our hands if only god tier JRPGS were allowed
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>>284216396
like /v/ could even come to a consensus on what a god tier game is anyway.
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>>284216626
I can only give it 7/10 at most because of the combat
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>>284216967
Is it worth playing the first game beforehand?
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>>284216626
We specified JRPGs because there are no good WRPGs.
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>>284216967
Here's your reply. 8/10.
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>>284211352
i really really like this game, but good lord it isn't even close to being god-tier. it's pretty mediocre overall, except that soundtrack
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>>284217192
Yes. Mostly because the first one is incredibly short
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>>284217415
It at the very least a legitimate opinion. ATL2 is great
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>>284217131

>Lost Odyssey
>God tier

Not even close. Lost Odyssey was the biggest case of "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING" in any RPG ever.

Lost Odysseys story is comically bad. Even by JRPG standards it's below shit like FF8s "we grew up together but forgot".
But the puzzling thing is, the short stories in the game are absolutely fucking amazing. They are without a doubt some of the best (if not the best) writing in any video game ever. But they're just fucking short stories you can read and nothing else.

Why the fuck didn't the developers get the person who wrote those short stories to write the main story for Lost Odyssey? If they'd have done that, the game would have been the best JRPG ever.
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>>284217472
the final boss theme made up for all of the game shortcomings

ive never jizzed so much to a music track in my life but holy shit that was fucking incredible
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>>284217859
I thought the main story was pretty forgettable, but to me the worst offender was the fucking slow as shit combat.

I think the only game I've ever played with slower combat is Xenosaga.
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i've never heard anyone talk about this game at all, it's probably one of the best ds rpgs ever made.

Shame it's only the saiyan saga, i'd love a whole series of these games that covers all the sagas
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>>284218070

The combat wasn't amazing, but it wasn't bad either. Having that circle you had to press at the right time got annoying though.

But seriously, the developers went out of their way to hire an award winning, world famous writer to write for them. Then all they had him do was write a collection of short stories. The fuck where they thinking when they decided this?
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>>284218070
The combat, and more importantly the load times before every battle were what killed it for me. The game had load times worse than most PS1 rpgs.
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>>284212164
I'll fucking buy it from you for 20 bucks if you hate is so much
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>>284212052
Grandia was a spiritual successor to Lunar games and I would rather recommend those instead.
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>>284212052

First disc was amazing. Second disc sucked. Not only did the story go from "I want to adventure!" to "an ancient evil has awoken", but the 2nd disc just turned into a fucking chore to play. Dungeons were massive and full of monsters that took ages to kill.
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Even though it had a combat system which does not deserve the name, I still love Gothic I and II
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>>284211593
I can never categorize Vagrant Story. It sure as fuck ain't a straight up JRPG, that's for sure.
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>>284211673
SC translation never. Fuck that asshole who is still getting paid for not doing any work, because he has depression. Ooooh I have depression so I can't be motivated to translate this game, TOO BAD MOTHER FUCKER YOUR BEING PAID TO DO IT, GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND FINISH THE FUCKING JOB YOUR ALREADY A YEAR LATE!
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>>284211548

Brilliant game. But that starting chapter and the sheer effort it takes to recruit characters made it a serious pain in the ass to play.

The starting chapter just seemed to take hours and wasn't fun because you had little control (and it was a fucking escort mission).

Recruiting characters was a pain because they had daily routines, and you'd have to sit around waiting for 20+ minutes to be able to talk to these characters (and skipping forwards was not an option due to it making certain characters missable, including the best characters in the game).
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>>284210676
i want to get into tactics but theres so many different versions and remakes

which do i play?
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>>284214158
battles are not the games strong point

the extra bosses instant kill you and everything else can easily be push/pull stacked and utterly destroyed

really sweet plot though that lets you fuck up AND tells you why you fucked up letting you go fix it
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>>284219558
There's the original
War of the Lions (enhanced port of original)
Advance
Advance 2

You can skip the original

The stories get progressively worse, aesthetic and design get progressively worse, but the gameplay depth gets progressively better.

Just look up some videos of each one and choose the one you think you'll like the most.
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>>284211548
name? is just "radiata"?
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>>284219558
War of the Lions on modded PSP to fix the slowdown problem. No matter what you may have heard the re-translation is superior, people are just mad iconic lines got changed.
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>>284220036
Radiata Stories

>>284219308
VS is my favorite PS1 game. The graphics, the music, the fucking localization, all of them are fucking godly.
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>>284215436
It's a straight downgrade from FFT, a massive one

>more jobs, but they are much less unique
>less interesting skills/combos despite there being like five times the amount of jobs
>dumbed down core mechanics like elevation-based dynamic range
>almost every melee has ranged skills
>equipment interface withholds information from the player, need to go back and forth through several menus to get all the information of what an item does
>no try-it-on equipment option for no reason whatsoever
>game flow is twice as slow for no reason, this is especially bad since the SRPG genre is slow by nature
>completely devoid of difficulty
>a billion uninteresting sidemissions that are MMO-tier
>embarassing story considering the previous entry
>grinding equip-specific points is actually worse than the JP system, they managed to made this even worse than the original
The best example of quantity over quality. This game is bad, and you should feel bad.
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Is Rune Factory any good?
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>>284220043
life is short......bury
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>>284219393
I agree entirely. I tried to replay this game because I loved it but the starting chapter is garbage. You need to get all the way up to finishing those missions with your boss in the fighting guild before you get to do whatever the fuck you want. That's like 6 hours.
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>>284217270
>this weeaboo
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>>284213376
play the second, skip the first. it improves on the first in literally every way and the first aged really badly anyway
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Speaking of hidden gems, has anyone played this? Everything I hear about it is really good, please tell me if its worth hunting down.
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>>284221230
I never played 2, but the first one was a clusterfuck of bad design choices with some pretty art.

I wouldn't get your hopes up.
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>No Xenoblade yet.
For shame people.
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>>284221656
I haven't played it, but watching a stream of it the combat just looks like a clusterfuck.
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>>284221656
Meh, Xenoblade wasn't even the best game from operation rainfall.
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>>284221656
An offline MMO is a "god tier RPG"?
Damn, the genre must have fallen in these last 10 years.
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>>284221656
>have modded Wii
>played about 30 hours of Xeno
>stopped playing about a year ago
>picking up Xeno 3D for N3DS XL

Maybe I will actually play to the end this time...
>seriously considering dropping $350+ on WiiU just to play Xenoblade X too
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>>284221656
So why is Xenoblade hyped by so many?
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>>284222007
Because Xeno title.
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>>284221979
>play xeno for over 100 hours
>nearing the final boss
>stop playing

Every game fucking ever. Why the shit do I do this?
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>>284222007
It's the only non-shit JRPG on nintendo systems since the SNES era, so nintendrones who only own nintendo systems, have hyped it up to extreme levels.

A similar thing happened to Golden Sun. A shallow 6/10 game at best was hailed as a masterpiece because there were no other JRPGs on the system.
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>>284222270
Yep, same shit with Tales of Symphonia too.
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>>284222270
It's not, even. There are better jrpgs on the wii.
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>mfw I don't have the patience to play RPGs anymore
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>>284221656
It's a bad game.
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>>284222438
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>>284222270
Golden sun is great, and Arc rise fantasia is a better Jrpg than xenoblade, voice acting aside.
>>284222360
I also hate you.
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>>284211169
absolutely no taste detected
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>>284222438
I feel you. I keep buying them trying to force myself to get back into them as they were always one of my favorite genres, but I struggle to even play them.
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>>284211169
>3
>not 2
Are you some kind of easy mode casual son?
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>>284211821
i wanna play those, i played the first one for like 3 hours but i've never been able to find them
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>>284222438
I know that feel.
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>>284212914
I loved Riviera, and Yggdra Union was a lot of fun, but I couldn't get into this no matter how much I tried.
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>>284222612
>Golden sun is great,
Most generic and uninteresting combat system from the 80's
Outright embarassing writing
Hilariously cliche' JRPG story
Zero difficulty
Shit pacing
Entirely linear
Puzzle-like obstacles minigames that would have worked better if it were a full-fledged puzzle game

Good "RPG" you've got there. No esploration, no good story to make up for the linearity, most basic menu gameplay. What exactly makes it good, other than being one of the few JRPGs on the GBA? Can you pinpoint what's good about it? Graphics? Cool. Everything else is mediocre at best.
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>>284212026
Ye Olde Tyme Funne
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I've never really played a RPG before but sort of feel like trying one out. Are there particular games suggested for beginners or should I just pick up whatever seems like fun?
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>>284222438
Maybe if the genre evolved beyond 99% padding and 1% content, I'd also play them.
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>>284222754
>2
>not garbage

Nice joke.
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>>284222383
such as?
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>>284223356
I'm not getting into this with anon again, everything you criticize i fucking love. /v/ used to like golden sun, you all just started hating it cause people wouldn't shut up about having isaac in smash

Also,
>esploration
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>>284222871
get that gay sex simulator out of here
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>>284223808
Why did you reply to him, everyone was doing a good job by ignoring him. fuck you anon.
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>>284223356
I've never understood why having a cliche story is such a bad thing.
I like cliche.
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I may not have played every single JRPG, but the ones I have played just don't compare to this.
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>>284223867
>first person battles

I'm sorry, but this is a killer for me.
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>>284217859
the shitty twin kid characters stolen straight from Final Fantasy. Jesus
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>>284210530
Eh, I played it last year. Honestly don't get the hype. The story wasn't that good, the battle system was decent. The worst thing was how constrained you are as to where you can go at any time, and how annoying it was to replay segments because there weren't enough points in time you could jump to.
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>>284223915
:^)
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>>284224027
>he doesn't like Phantasy Star 1-4

lol you need to leave buddy
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>>284217859
They tell you in the first 5 mins that using GF's makes people forget shit like mad.
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>>284224047
>stolen straight from Final Fantasy

Confirmed for knowing fuck all about the game.

Kekle on my sheckles.
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>>284222438
I have this problem. I've been holding off of Persona 4 for a year and I'm only to the point of beating shadow Teddie.
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>>284210530
this game was a solid 7/10. Very mediocre when compared to its betters. I was fucking tricked into buying it by revivalist faggots like you and kotaku. Ni no Kuni was the same shit. Average as fuck yet hyped to high heaven for being the only decent jrpg in sight.
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>>284220485
the only problem I have with is the boat exploration.
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>>284215782
>hidden gem
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>>284223946
You kind of have to if you like the JRPG genre in general, I suppose it's a filtering process.

But GS's story is that sort of cliche' that is so cliche' it seems like someone ironically wrote it to make a parody of shitty JRPG stories. The dialogue quality greatly helps achieve this feeling.
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>>284222007
The only good RPG on Wii and it's hard to find.
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>>284210530

The only redeeming qualities are the art and music, everything else is mediocre or just bad, especially the fucking shit awful bad time travel.

>>284210947

Agreed except I didn't think the sprite work was bad at all really.
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>>284224136
I haven't played them no. I just can't get into FPrpg, be it elder scrolls, SMT, etrian oddesy, whatever. i like to see cool animations.
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>>284220485
My nigger. 10/10 RPG right there. It's only flaws are one or two fucked up quests where the translation throws you off and the fact that you NEED a farmer in order to make money at all.
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>>284224027
>doesn't like an entire game on the basis of such a trivial difference
Let me guess, you like final fantasy.

>FF fans are the Halo fans of shooters
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>>284211548
Great game, I loved how the npcs all went about there business alla Majora's Mask. One thing that sucked was that if you picked the non-human side you were locked out of the city, and that was the best part of the game.
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>>284224428
>what is Arc rise fantasia?

Its all good if you hate it, but you better not tell me the game is shit because the voice acting is.
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>>284224428
But anon, it's pretty easy

>go to torrent site or any rom site
>download game
>play an open world game in higher resolution than 480p
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>>284219740
>really sweet plot though that lets you fuck up AND tells you why you fucked up letting you go fix it

That just means no meaningful choices ever because you either do it the wrong way and get some shitty text cutscene where you immediately start over, or you do it the right way and the game moves on.

Nothing cool about that, it was just shit.
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>>284224403
Yeah GS's problem isn't so muc that the story sucks. Its the way it is presented. Every dialog section repeats what is said 2-3 times, and is horribly drawn out by all the soulless characters slowly making those "talking" noises accompanied by all the emoticon faces.
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>>284224535
I like FF, yes, but i also enjoy things much more than ff, pic related, along with other great ps1 rpgs, lufia, lunar, grandia, Valkyrie profile,Suikuden, i can go all day
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>>284213532
What it needs is a gameplay makeover. When the main selling point (managing the codes) has a clunky UI, you done fucked up.
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>>284224730
Never tried this out, it's on my backlog that grows exponentially every day.
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>ctrl + f "skies"
>0 results

fuck you guys
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>>284224847
Agree
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>>284225158
yfw it was posted
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>>284225054
its good, but the voices are bad, its almost campy.think of the worse english dub you've ever heard, its literally better than the voice acting in ARF
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>>284224962
You should get out of your comfort bubble and try first person view RPGs, you may find some that complement the ones you already played.
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are .hack or xenosaga games good?
something about their cases makes me want to play them, but i never have
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>>284225335
Thank god for my modded wii, I'll look for an undub version.
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>>284225364
good fucking luck. I've bought xenosaga one 12 times and have never found a working copy. I'm convinced it doesn't exist and theres no way i can emulate it on this laptop. an hd collection or ps2 classics are my only hope
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>>284211169
>>284220485
>>284223867
Well, I guess that's the next game I'm going to play.
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>>284224802
it's about finding the one right way, there are lots of ways to fuck up but then you get to see what happens and start at the most recent crossroad again

i don't see what the issue is
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>No Bahamut Lagoon posted

>>284212117
This fuckin' game. I loved Rudra no Hihou.
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>>284225341
So far I've tried SMT IV and absolutely hated it. There are other games i've played but thats probably the most heard of one.
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>>284225158
I love the premise behind the game, I love the setting, I love the tone of the characters, I love the aesthetics and colors, but the pirate mechanics in general are disappointing as fuck (from exploring to hunting to ship battles), also, 5 steps = trivial, slow random encounter with loading screen, it crushes my soul
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>>284225731
tell me more anon.
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>>284225158
>skies
just did cntrl + f skies. Fuck me why is it so far down. At least I didn't have to be the first one to post it.
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>>284211593
>>284219308
>>284220162
What's so good about Vagrant Story?
All I know is that it supposedly has some ties to FFXII (same writer or same universe? not sure) and that BD has this armor as a reference
I keep reading that it's super good but I've seen some gameplay once and it looked really clunky and frustrating
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>>284225547
Instead of buying a dead game 12 times, which doesn't support developers, mod your PS2 and download it. It's cheap and easy as hell.
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>>284225925
I can't get into it, i'm not very far, but i don't fully understand the mechanics and the in game tutorial is TL:DR. I really should read through it though
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>>284225925
for me, it was the story, localization, and music - also the graphics.

The gameplay isn't bad at all, but it is a game where you kinda have to read up on external things to really grok the games mechanics which is kinda crappy but not the worst thing. The story is actually pretty good, and it can almost be seen as a fantasy metal gear solid.
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>>284221230
>those fucking tits
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>>284225364
If you play Xenosaga, skip 2 after beating 1. Seriously just watch it online its the worst in the series and combat sucks. 3 is the definitive game combat wise. It's near perfect.
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>>284225639

1. Illusion of choice is stupid.
2. A number of "wrong" decisions are largely arbitrary.
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>>284222007
better question is, why is it suddenly being shat on?
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>>284219308
Nah it's a JRPG, just before they all became samey as fuck, so much so that not adhering 100% to all the same mechanics the others do make people think they're not JRPGs at all
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>>284218212
I want a game exactly like this that covers all of Dragonball.

One of my dream games.
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>>284225925
Mostly the story & presentation. It is one of the better looking PS1 games by far.

The gameplay is definitely clunky and it pretty much requires a faq to understand how to properly play. It never explains its systems well and you will almost assuredly back yourself into a corner at some point if you don't know what you're doing.
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>>284222870
Emulate
That's the only place I've found them
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>>284226280
Do you know where you are?
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>All these DS games listed

What a coincidence, I just got my hands on a used near perfect condition DS Lite. Time to play some games.
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>>284225925
Imagine one of the best games of a system.
It's like that.
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>>284212602
it will be a hidden gem though soon. it's pretty obscure.
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Mana khemia, the creation system is super fun and the combat only gets better as you make more shit.

Pic related is best girl from the game
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>>284226424
I don't remember so much hate when it first came out. I guess it's because it got popular.
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>>284225364
xenosaga's a seriously hot mess, and your mileage will vary a lot. it has that quality of being comically overloaded with huge, century-spanning concepts and plots that you will either finding endearing or pretentious depending on your tastes. if you like xenogears-y shit with kooky biblical references and tons of cryptic name-dropping then you will probably be interested.

they do feel more fragmented as products than xenogears, though. music is sparse and environments are crude; gameplay varies from pretty good (3) to worst of all time (2). if you are a big enthusiast of the xenogears school of jrpg plotting, then they'll be flawed gems; if not, they will be total clusterfucks.

skip episode 2 (which sucks) if it gives you the gas to power through episode 3 (which is one of my favorites).
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Is Fantasy Life any good? Worth the 45 bucks? I have a hard time playing RPGs these days though, shit sucks.
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>>284222007
It's good. The voice acting is great, the art direction is great, the soundtrack is great, it has good emulation support and therefore looks great aswell. The gameplay is accessable and quick it gets old after a while but if you switch up characters its fine
The story itself is "okay", but the setting and the story progression is great. There are some cutscenes in the game but they're directed REALLY REALLY well, like, they are seriously enjoyable
I can understand people getting turned off from the "offline-mmo" style, people heavily overblow it on /v/ especially after Shulk got confirmed for smash, so many people who usually woudln't bother with a game like this try to get into it and get disappointed.
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>>284226643
Exactly. That's why I asked if you knew where you were.
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>>284225364
Xenosaga is a mess honestly. The first two games are a total chore. The third game is actually pretty great but I can't in good faith actually suggest playing through the other two games just for it, and the game is simply not worth playing if you haven't. You'll have no idea what is going on and no investment in the characters.
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>>284219379
The translation is done and the game has been in QA testing.
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>>284226376
I'd kill for a proper brawler with kid goku done by platinum.
forget that gba game.
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>>284226709
Fantasy Life is only good if you have real life friends that also own the game. I'd suggest Rune Factory 4 instead.
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>>284210530
Ogre Battle
Star Ocean 2
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>>284225925
You know how Squaresoft/S-E ruins all their good games to pander to shitty audiences, BD included? Now picture Square in a situation of zero pandering and zero jewing, only a pure, genuine, unaltered vision from a director (who later got botched because he didn't do pandering shit and the game didn't market well to the hambeasts, which directly led to FUCKING VAAN AS MAIN CHARACTER FOR FFXII HOLY SHIT)
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>>284226709
It can consume a lot of time if you find it entertaining at all, but it's incredibly bland imo. The combat, which is always a big portion of rpgs, is really underwhelming and shallow. The crafting system eventually just turns into a "press 3 buttons and auto-synth" thing and the quality of said craft is pretty fucking random at times.

I wouldn't recommend it for full price.
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>>284226805
but why does this happen? it happens everywhere.
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>>284222438
I really struggle with 2d RPGs, basically anything before the PS2 era. There are enough RPGs to choose from though until I get the patience for older titles
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>>284213532

I couldn't stand how fucking boring this was and dropped it immediately.
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No one has posted skies of arcadia yet?


Wow /v/ get some taste.
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>>284214221
How about a one time order of a flashcart?
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>>284226894
>>284226964
Hm, thanks. Duly noted.

I kind of hate how much companies are trying to force co-op in games these days. I don't have any fucking friends, at least none that play vidya.
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>>284226971
>tfw I was raised on Dragon Warrior (Quest) starting at the tender age of 7
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>>284222438
For me, thats only a problem for the early PS1 RPGs due to long, unskippable combat animation, and poor early 3D.
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>>284227054
how about you read a thread before you post in it.

oh wait, I'm on /v/

whoops.
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>>284226497
what games you gonna play?
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>>284227054
Read the thread you mongoloid
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>>284225158
you post this every single thread.
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>>284226843
>Dragonball
>Platinum brawler

Dragonball Z maybe.
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beginner to jrpgs, essentials I should play after chrono trigger?
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>>284211821
Convince me to play this game. I've been looking for an RPG to emulate on the Advance, but why this one?
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>>284227369
wild arms one and 2

I still havent played CT, its on my ps3
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>>284227369
Terranignma/Illusion of Gaia/Soulblazer
Lufia 2
FFIV-VI
DQ
Lunar
Grandia 1 and 2
Breath of Fire
Suikoden 1 and 2.
Valkyrie Profile 1
Trails in the Skies
Skies of Arcadia
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>>284227457
big focus on making your own weapons with a tales-y like battle system. Weapons can break
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>>284227365
dragonball > dragonball z
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>all of these people in here claming "muh hidden gems"
>they're all weaboo pedo anime shit that no one really liked
>call all good RPGs that are popular because they're good boring

This thread is terrible
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>>284227369
chrono cross, duh.
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>>284221814
It does LOOK like a clusterfuck, but it's not if you actually play it. There's a ton going on but it's not all introduced at once
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>>284227683
>It's only good if it's popular

womp womp

i bet you like cod fag
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>>284227369
FF8 is pretty entry tier but its also the absolute polarizing FF, some people hate it, and others with more refined taste absolutely love it.
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>>284224530

I really disliked how farmer was a completely fucking useless class except for making some money occasionally, it was such a waste.
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>>284227683
>thread title is "ITT: God tier RPGs"
>only person claiming to show a hidden gem is OP
>trolling logic 101

lol you like dicks in your butt
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>>284210530
this game has one of the best combat systems ever

also, ys seven and celceta are fantastic, albeit more button mashy.
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>>284227653
I'm enjoying GT.
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>>284218010
Indeed.

That part when it gets to the theme turns of the main characters was amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nil0qRve4k
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>>284212026
shit, I wanted this last year but got turned off by the price
will check if the ebay fags has gotten their shit together
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>>284226843
Here's hoping that with the recent DBZ movie milking, interest springs up and platinum gets to make a high profile DB game

>forward airdashing is a brief animation of riding the flying nimbus
>extended pole to polejump, combo and parry
>huge ass pterodactyl shows up
>this starts playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7kZVH849Eo
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>>284227916
Celceta is a decent game but I wouldn't label it anywhere near fantastic.
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As long as you aren't in it for the gameplay, as that is its weakest part.
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>>284226946
Vaan was fine, calm down

His character arc was done after ~4 hours, he's just a spectator to everything that is happening, they even said that themselves as the reason he was introduced.
He starts out as a brat but after a while he learns his place and does the best to support the others who he recognized as being much more involved in the happenings of the game.
He NEVER got in the way of the story. He had his moments DONT BELIEVE ONDORES LIES but after that he isn't even really a "protagonist" anymore, just a member of the team

The promotional artwork made him look really fucking gay though, I admit
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>>284225894
Alright; how about this gem?
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>>284222007
The combat doesn't play like a typical JRPG, which is the barrier that keeps most out of the series, so it's just a product of the fact that more people have played it.
Still an enjoyable game, regardless.
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>>284227954
Stop reading/watching fanfiction. Dragon ball canonically ended with frieza.
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>>284228069
I know the issues you have with it, but it scratched my itch just right. also, the base combat system from those two games is just fun and elegant and there's a lot that can be added to it. I can't understand why more rpgs aren't just streamlined like this. they always have to throw in some horseshit that gets in the way, like the tales series.
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>>284228228
Fucking great, i played it last year, Oersted did nothing wrong.
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2 specifically, but BBS fits too.
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>>284227653
I agree with that but I think a Platinum game would be better suited to Z. Dragonball is more about the adventure.
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>>284227369
Suikoden 2, Dragon Quest 8, FFXII

Besides CT because you already played it, this is the ultimate washed-down list of essential JRPGs you MUST play before you die.
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>>284228417
yea okay.
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>>284228589
thats really not that hidden anon, even if you are right.
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>>284228793
see
>>284227887
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fylg8zp4Pzo

>>284228793
OP just asked for God-tier JRPGs. He just said that he started with a lesser known more hidden one, not that that is what he required.
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>>284228645
Platinum already made not-so-crazy games gameplay-wise, like MGR and God Hand, DB would fit just as well as DBZ would.

Mostly because there really isn't a single other studio capable of making good action games. So really, any action game should just be made by platinum, no matter which it is.
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>>284228951
Kingdom hearts is a good action game.
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>>284227954
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>>284228951
But linear stages like Platinum do would suck for a Dragonball game.
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>>284228571
What's funny is, he really didn't.

He just had a really shitty friend.
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>>284225364
.hack//games are gr8 as long as you aren't in it for the gameplay. Even so, the gameplay is okay as long as you don't try to make physical close combat attacs your only method of fighting.
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>>284228951
>there really isn't a single other studio capable of making good action games


ninja theory?
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>>284228951
KH games are pretty good action games.
I'd even argue that Drakengard 3 was an okay action game but I know people will definitely say hell no to that one
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>>284228228
>Live A Live
Fucking fantastic!
If you guys haven't heard it already, listen to it via concert!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRepkv6BfhU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yK7nGYt52g

I'm a bit disappointed that they never did War In China, but it's fucking fantastic.
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>>284228220
>Vaan was fine,
Literally wrong opinion, the developers themselves admitted they were forced to put a gay shota as MC because it would lead to more sales, which was the issue the higher ups found in VS, cause the MC being a good MC is not as iconic as a fanfiction-bait/porn-bait bitchboy
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>>284228571
>>284229162

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9yqI9gL_Cw
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>>284229114
then maybe they could make it open world. you'd start out as kid goku, running around the country side killing dinosaurs, riding nimbus, swimming in the river, and it'd follow him up to adulthood. maybe that could be the second half. just imagine sort of like OOT, but with actual fun, challenging combat.
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>>284229345
That fucking ninja chapter without a guide.
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>>284229385
This goes over Vaan. He was okay.
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>>284227369
>beginner to jrpgs
Uuuuh. I'm trying to find some more accessable stuff than what the others posted:
-Final Fantasy 10, the writing and voice acting is shit but the story, gameplay and production value is pretty good and easy to digest. Most people were introduced to JRPGs by this so its a nice start.

-Final Fantasy 12, great fucking graphics (emulate it!), a beautiful world, absolutely fantastic cutscenes and voice acting. Gameplay is hit or miss, your party fights almost automatically if you set them up well, but it's still really satisfying to play. Its a matter of taste though after all
People are divided between vanilla and IZJS; IZJS is a japanese rerelease (complete in english though) which streamlines the gameplay a bit, basically you can choose classes now instead of making every character the same.

-A "Tales of" game. Series is well known for its balance of action and strategy in combat, it kind of plays like a RPG-Fighting-Game. Story is always decent but the characters and their interactions are always very good. If you've played one you've played them all, so choose wisely which one to start with.
Xillia is good but very unfinished at some points. Symphonia is kinda dated but one of the most well rounded experiences. Vesperia is kinda overrated but probably the best. Tales of Hearts R for Vita is supposedly really good. Abyss is worth mentioning.

-Xenoblade Chronicles. See >>284226742

-Persona Series. 1 is terrible gameplay good story, 2 is okay gameplay great story, Persona 3 and 4 have decent to good gameplay and decent to good story. 3/4 really start to shine in the roleplaying-department. Great experience if you dig otaku fantasies. Waifushit gets overblown by people who dislike the series
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>>284229429
I just want a 3d game thats like legacy of goku games
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CALLING
YOU HEAR THE CALLING
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>>284229385
but XII didn't even sell well.
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>>284229498
>This goes over Vaan.
Deutsch?
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>>284229746
I don't know what you're talking about anon.
I just screencapped that from a while back.
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>>284229596
X isn't good for a beginner, yeah most the game is cake, but we don't want him raging a yunalesca or seymour and swearing off the genre
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>>284229478
>ninja chapter without a guide.
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>>284229429
If you got a hankering for a Dragonball game, try playing Super Gokuden: Assault Chapter
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>>284229890
10 was probably my like fourth RPG. I agree with you that beginners shouldn't play it, but not because of Yunalesca or Seymour. They're difficult but doable. I'd argue that its not good for beginners because of the sphere grid. It gives too much control to the player and gives them the ability to screw themselves over.

I would know. I did that to myself. I'm at the end of the game trying to fight Sin and can't because Tidus's attacks are doing damage around 300 to 400 range and accidentally had him go down Lulu's route. Kihmahri, Auron, and Wakka are the only characters that do any major damage and Lulu doesn't even know magic attacks that end in "aga" yet because I screwed up.
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>>284228228
I keep trying to emulate this shit but it keeps crashing when I play as the ninja.
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>>284229858
>This goes over Vaan.
Sounds like a very literal translation of the german "In diesem text geht es über". I'm not even sure if it's wrong though
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>>284228228
Cube is great.
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>>284229890
>>284230220
I consider myself a fan of JRPGs, yet a total scrub once they get difficult. Seymour was just annoying but only because I had to watch the cutscene again and again after wiping
I beat Yunalesca first try, still don't know why I had no problem with them.I actually got stuck at the final battle, though I was probably just underleveled.
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>>284229057
That's a funny joke.

>>284229114
And an open world with dog shit gameplay would suck even more, so I pick the lesser evil.

>>284229241
:^)

>>284229330
Its engine is shit, it feels like controlling a turn based JRPG character when you're exploring out of the battles. Hitbox behaviour is that of an autotarget MMO, it's pretty damn shallow and simplistic. I'd say you're victim of the nostalgia. If KH is good as an action game, god knows Nier and Drakengard have got to be 10/10 action games at this point. The new 3d castlevania games also got to be 10/10 action combat if you say KH's combat is good.
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>>284230216
Full translation when?
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>>284226742
the game, to me, was just what I had been expecting out of a game for the entire last gen and then suddenly it was all there in front of me.

all that bullshit and all those lies about "see that mountain? you can climb it" was fucking possible in Xenoblade. the environments are really well put together, and the entire game world is just so intricate. this combined with an okay story (just like anon said, not great but the cutscenes + music make it much better) lends itself to creating a really fucking awesome atmosphere for an RPG.

It sucks that it's only got shit on since Nintendo started pushing XBCX and Shulk got into Smash, especially because it's not perfect, but I hope some people enjoy it like I did.
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>>284228228
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>>284230734
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>>284230220
>The sphere grid

Do what? It was very clear that unless using an unlock sphere, each character had a set path they were to follow. Not to mention it's pretty clear what roles each character were supposed to fill outside of Kimahri.

>Which path should Wakka take? The game said he's good at hitting aerial enemies, so +acc should bolster that.
>Oh, the path he's on is full of +acc

>Game said Auron hits really hard and can break through armor
>His path is full of strength, that's great!

I'm literally at a loss as to how people could get confused. There was a thread a while back about this exact situation and I didn't learn anything other than the guy that had the problem was mentally slow.
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>>284220485
Best game in the series. Just finishing up on part 4.
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>>284230523
>And an open world with dog shit gameplay would suck even more

Thats why I wanted an RPG game like Attack of the Saiyans
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>>284230523
>victim of nostalgia
But combat in KH games revolves heavily around watching and learning enemy attack patterns and figuring out how to best attack them without getting hurt and learning when to dodge and block when necessary. It has fast paced battles like this that really depend heavily on skill and fast reactions in order to win.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=erhpBhLHLUw
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>>284230839
With Megalomania immediately kicking in, that moment made this game one of my favorites.

I was not expecting him to have a fucking Gatling Gun.
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Maybe not exactly God Tier but after probably 3 or 4 years of being unable to play an RPG for more than 5 hours I've sunk nearly 30 in this already and I work more often than I play games.
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>>284230865
>There was a thread a while back about this exact situation
That was probably mine...I didn't look ahead on any of the paths to see what is filled with what or even think about what stats characters should be focusing on. And when playing games I've always tried to make characters super balanced anyways which sometimes helps and sometimes hurts depending on the game. I played the game when I was really young and put myself in that position because I just used spheres on whatever was ahead of me and thought it was cool at the time to have characters learn each other's abilities. I didn't think I could screw up so badly and I thought the reason that I could only win boss battles by filling up everyone and every summon's limit guages before the battle was just because they were overpowered and tough. I had no idea that I screwed up horribly until I went back to the game earlier this year.
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>>284229498
Being forced to change the MC by your publisher in the first place means it's going to be shit because it taints the original vision.
The
>it's good because they made him invisible, it's a spectator!
is also a pointless argument because if the character was planned to be a spectator from the get-go, it would STILL be better than current Vaan.

Case in point: Ramza. Nothing is ever about him, the story is about war, the nobles, the people, and how Delita changes. Intended like that from the beginning, better than a half assed last-minute adjustment could ever do.

When the publisher intervenes, it's always a trade-off where we get the shit end of the stick because S-E are jews. No matter how much you try and rationalize it. Vaan a shit. I hope you bump your big toe on furniture.
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>>284227898
that's a pretty slick duel disk there
which yu-gi-oh is this?
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This series in general is amazing. Started on the NES, moved to the SNES, and even had a PS2 game (Metal Saga). Really great art style, and it is one of the few sandbox jRPGs out there. I highly recommend it, especially if you're a fan of Trigun, as the art styles and settings are very similar.
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>>284231338
>Ramza is a spectator
>Forms a rag-tag group devoid of allegiance
>Kills Zodiac Braves and ends up defeating God

You're focusing on the wrong part of the story they were trying to tell. Delita, the war, his brothers - they were all plot devices used to show Ramzas personal path.

Delita is what he could have turned into, and without Agrias' and Ovelia's help he would have.

His Brothers show him the error in heartless politics. How destructive it is to worry about yourself instead of doing the right thing. The war is just kinda happening, and is a plot device to drive him through the course of the game.

You got too caught up in the background.
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Excellent soundtrack, fantastic story lines and heroic tales. It's all combined to reenact the moment history is made.
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>>284232103
I have both of them, but I never tried them.
I'll give it a look.
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>>284232570
dont play with my emotions anon
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>>284230931
>But combat in KH games revolves heavily around watching and learning enemy attack patterns and figuring out how to best attack them without getting hurt and learning when to dodge and block when necessary.
You just described Monster Hunter, except there are weapons with depth, enemies have 50 hitboxes on them, and mastering the game takes hundreds of hours.
And that is not including the finer mechanics such as invincibility frames and guard points.

I believe the Charge Blade alone has more depth and requires a higher skill ceiling than the entirety of the gameplay in any single KH title. For the sake of making one striking comparison about how shallow KH is.

Also, please refrain from referencing to bonus/post-game/rare encounters in those games, these difficult battles make less than 1% of the fights in the serie and are almost irrelevant to judge how good the overall combat in a game is.

If the standard gameplay was like that, yes, you had a point.
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>seeing all of these RPGs
>only have DS/3DS and PS3

fuck, I need to go buy a PS2 off ebay and buy all of these games I can't emulate.
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>>284232570
Translation never ever?
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>>284232872
A ton of PS2 RPGs are on the PS3's PSN available for emulation and to some degree they run well.
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>>284232570
This is the only one I want to play too.
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Since they haven't been mentioned, I'll recommend:

EVO: Search for Eden
Valkyrie Profile 1, 2
Star Ocean 1, 2, 3
Tales of Phantasia
Resonance of Fate
Landstalker
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter

The entire Breath of Fire series is good, but the first 4 are you traditional turn-based fare. Dragon Quarter is the one you really have to play.
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>>284232975
yeah, I've played quite a few on there but there's still quite a few that aren't on there.
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>>284233076
>the first 4 are great traditional turn-based JRPGs. Dragon Quarter is the one you really have to avoid
FTFY
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Can't get enough of Vanillaware, I'm not a graphics-whore but their 2D hand-drawn graphics make my dick diamonds.
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>>284233076
I really love this game and the entire idea of it. I just wish it had been longer.

>you will never be the underdog with all odds stacked against you rushing towards the surface to free humanity from its underground prison and save the little girl air purification system ever again.

Also the SOL system was pretty neat.
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>>284229214
Don't know why people hate on .hack//IMOQ's gameplay, it was basically offline Diablo II with a ridiculously badass story and was addictive as fuck, I thought the gameplay was great, grinding out a whole field/dungeon combo, getting the fat loot, then trading it with other players in town/gifting it to party members/selling it for gold was really fun, and the whole viral infection/hacking the game to get impossible legendary weapons was a really unique mechanic that had its own entire set of rules and was addictive and fun on its own

It was a pretty niche game, but it did its niche pretty damn well
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>>284224285
>Very mediocre when compared to its betters

I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Literally every game is going to be mediocre compared to its betters.
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>>284233076

Oh, also this.
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>>284233076
>Dragon Quarter is the one you really have to play.
You might as well prepare for disappointment if you've played the last 4.
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Most of these seem to be "God Tier" Because of the story or something how about something with amazing game play.
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>>284225731

>Cuck Lagoon

Please.
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>>284233462

Basically he is saying, while it's an okay game, it wasn't worth the amount of hype
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>>284232289
>Ramzas personal path.
Ramza has no path. He barely even gets shown in the ending, because it focuses on what happens to those around him.

He is the device through which you see how the war happened, much like Vaan, except Ramza is a spectator actually done well and it feels like he was a good pick for the role (due to his status conflict with Delita), unlike Vaan.

>You got too caught up in the background.
Compare the exposition / story of ramza and that of everything else, I think you have quite the alternative defition of what "background" is. We know nothing about Ramza. He does <thing> because he thinks he's right. He never explains ANYTHING at all from his personal point of view, his status conflict is always explained through the comparison of others; he just moves forward, whereas we get ton of cutscenes/exposition/reasons from a variety of other characters, most of them happen off-screen right before/after ramza even gets there

Ramza was a faceless protagonist with the adequate starting point (heir of the most powerful/respected noble family), he of all people led a rebellion, and it allowed to see the point of view of commoners, nobles, and the higher ups, by being a noble, but also a traitor. From his point of view, there is no binary "good" or "bad" most of the times, he is confronted with people with a spectrum of mentalities/ideals that consistently change and cross over.

Vaan is a random kid who gets picked up in a pirate airship because he thinks it's cool so he sticks around for the kicks. As a commoner who has no place in a war, his point of view is seeing only "BAD GUYS" and "GOOD GUYS".

And that's about it.
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>>284234193
>playing rpgs
>thinking story isnt important
okay
>>284225158
>>284233026
>>284233413
I haven't played most of these games, but these are the ones I have played, and all of them had fantastic gameplay
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I love this game.
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>>284232872
Or you just upgrade your PC so you get god tier emulation across several systems, god tier multiplatforms, and the graphic intensive exclusives.
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>>284234851
>I love the taste of shit
FTFY
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>>284234193

Heh, not really. Some of them do, but a lot of them like Vagrant Story and Nocturne are really enjoyable gameplay-wise.

See: >>284233076 >>284233867

I'm not much of a story guy and I fucking love these games. Great combat, systems and overall design.

Also I'm surprised no one has talked about Earthbound or Mother 3, and to see so few mentions of the FF games. This board really has changed.
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>>284210947
I'm actually kind of with this guy, the game had me really engaged for a bit but it got way too boring to play after a while. The battle system was unique but got pretty repetitive, the sprites and most characters gave me a shitty Korean f2p vibe and a lot of time switching parts were a bit confusing, though that didn't bother me too much. I liked the game enough, but I never finished it.
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>>284234994
lots of un-emulatable PS2 games, pcsx2 isn't perfect you know.
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>>284234692
>SoA
>fantastic gameplay
>calling it gameplay at all
Please, I love the game, but just no
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>>284235271
Name 10.
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>using "too easy" as a criticism
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>>284235271
Why are you reading 2008 information? PCSX2 is the best 3D emulator and everything can be emulatable or fixable to made run properly.

You have to go into "obscure japanese-only cultural minigame" territory to find compatibility issues. Every single JRPG that is known to more than 3 people works fine.
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>>284213532
Had potential, but ended up on a system that couldn't handle 3d action combat.
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>>284235658
>Ingame: 52 (2.05%)
>Menus: 51 (2.01%)
>Intro: 36 (1.42%)
>Nothing: 6 (0.24%)
3-1-2015
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>>284211748
>R4
thats your problem get a super card ds two and trow that garbage
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>>284235597
>thing that demands interactivity/input from the player
>is so easy it's about as difficult as watching a movie, except it becomes a chore because you still need to push buttons
>this is not valid criticism
As a rule of thumb, when something is too easy, it should have been something you only have to watch, because it's not engaging to do the whole interacting thing, it just becomes a chore.
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>>284216218
2nd disk
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>>284236112
>5% of the entire library
Now tell me, out of these games, which are JRPGs that you want to play. Go ahead, show me how 5% incompatibility affects actually good games that the developers focus their emulator around, when the PS2 has a library of 1% good games and 99% shovelware.
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>>284216218
Is Xenogears the "Evangelion" of vidya /v/?
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>>284236879
Beyond all the shit, Evangelion had a couple good things that raised the bar, though.
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>>284214185
Hooked on this one. I need to stop training classes and finish the game. Thankfully its not as grindy as 2 was.
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>>284236879

Almost literally, yeah.

Speaking of Xenogears - my favorite theme from the game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BQ6PeyzxDk
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>>284214185
I have this problem with VC2.

The gameplay is pretty good and all, but I get about 10 hours into the game, classes around level 10 or so with some characters getting advanced classes and then I just drop the game.

3 times now I've done this. Does the game pick back up? The beginning was pretty good, but the school atmosphere has been pretty fucking tiring. I think I stopped in the middle of the contest between classes this time around.
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>>284236220
Kinda sucks that Level 5 has given up on making great games like dark cloud or rogue galaxy.
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>>284238243
game is easy enough just grind some dlc weapons and then bulldoze through the story missions with that.
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>Vaan apologists
Why? You know you can like a game and still admit it has flaws, right?
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>>284238703
Some people like Vaan.

I hate his outfit, but I like him as a character.
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>>284236745
Steambot chronicles mostly.
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>>284227457
lesbians
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>>284238786
>Some people like Vaan.
I refuse to believe that. At best you can claim he doesn't negatively impact the game, but you have to be delusional to actually see him as a positive.
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>>284239076
The final fantasy audience has drastically changed over the years.
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God tier game coming threw plebs.
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>>284239437
>coming threw
Fucking americans
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>>284233413
It's one of those games that gets better with each installment, and personally, I felt the first was utter shit tier. It went from shit, to decent, to great, to FUCKING HYPE. GU was the same thing
HD collection when? this is something that would literally make me buy a ps4
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>>284239784
Americans on holiday is a better filename
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>>284239784
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>>284233274
I think that makes you more of an art direction-whore, really. Nothing wrong with that though.
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>>284235394

Ratchet and Clank is all I care about right now.
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>>284239784
But that plug clearly isn't a US plug. Is this bait?
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>>284211352
5/10

but fuck it came at a good time. Everyone wanted something like this, including me. Just basic basic rpg. Taking that into account it was a 9/10. If you havent played many rpgs though there are better ones to play
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>>284240854
>that's the joke
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>>284239784
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Dark Cloud 2 and Xenoblade Chronicles are the greatest JRPGs since the 90s.
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>>284241347
IMPRISON THIS PEDOPHILE
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>>284240854
Read the filename, dumbass
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>>284230523
>And an open world with dog shit gameplay would suck even more

why can't we have open world AND good combat? really not that hard.
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>>284241347
What a monster. Glad to know this sicko will never have a good job.
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>radiant historia
>hidden gem
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Sure, let me post some god tier JRPGs
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>>284238281
>rogue galaxy
>better than ni no kuni
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>>284242051
filtered ;*)
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>>284210530

Metal Max 2 Reloaded or 3 wipes the floor with radiant historia so no.
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>>284241935
Because modern videogame developers do not work to provide top-end quality for the consumers, but maximum efficiency and profit for their investors. These two are not the same thing.

So you'll have open world developers making games with shit gameplay, and corridor developers being the only ones having good combat. Simply because if they were to be good in both fields, they'd rather just release two different games and increase the overall profit in the first place, that's why they don't happen.

There is such a thing as a game being "too good" by modern development standards, they even teach you at
>game design school
That you should make your product simplistic, short sighted and derivative, instead of taking too much effort for a single game, because it is not as rewarding as the cash-in.
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I really liked soul sacrifice delta. Although it's probably not what you had in mind.
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>>284242137
So the guy in the middle is holding an anime poster of some angry girl

Literally god tier JRPG material
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>>284232570
This.

The game is overall fantastic/amazing
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>>284242304
True, not just better, but infinitely so.
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>>284242934
Sure thing anon.

Also, Dragon quest VII 3DS is the best JRPG on the console
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>>284242784
if they worked with another developer they could do it. oh well...

> because it is not as rewarding as the cash-in.

can't say I blame them. especially when everyone will just pirate your game.
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>>284243079
still a turd.
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>>284243154
Quality screenshot you got there, buddy
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>>284243396
Thanks anon
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Yes really. First one sucked, second was okay, LR was great.
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>>284243175
>le piracy myth
Videogame development is the most profitable profession in the media world currently.
It's the only place where one skilled guy can singlehandedly make millions with his skills alone. You don't have to depend on anyone else.

You should stop believing the journos spouting the "muh poor developers have a hard time" trite bullshit, as they take checks from them for plastering their websites with their game ads.
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>>284210530
Sakura wars 3
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>>284242304
Ni No Kuni is awful. I'd rather play Star Ocean 4 or Final Fantasy XIII than that piece of shit.
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>>284243573
Question: did you purchase the two sequels after seeing how the first one was?
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>>284243706
Star Ocean 4 had great combat system. On the other hand, the story...
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>>284243641
Cases like that are few and far between. There are far more devs struggling to break even, and many studios are closing or being absorbed.
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>>284243734
No. I started with XIII-2 because I thought the demo was alright. Then played XIII and, LR once it came out, LR.
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>have a bunch of sound .webm's
>can't post them
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>>284243874
That's because they are genuinely incompetent. Compare the actually good devs/studios that had to shut down with those who outright failed because they sucked ass somewhere in their decision making.
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>>284243857
Yeah it played fine. It was just the characters that I couldn't stand. Still better than Ni No Kuni.
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>>284243549
>>284243154
>DQ
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>>284243651
damn good taste anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CHii3jP5xg&list=PLuD7QspIn7PIpUdiUU9IpJLvOk4C5tUCZ
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>>284244203
It's okay, we can translate games now. Someone will inevitably take up on VII 3DS.
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The best
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>>284244487
enjoy waiting 10 years anon
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>>284244660
>10
try 20
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>>284244203
I would normally say "can't have!" or something here but there's no point now.
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>ctrl+f panzer
>no Panzer Dragoon Saga
>2020-5
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>>284246261
Good.
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>>284245146
>but there's no point now.
why's that anon
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>>284244203
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>>284246261
>No Super Robot Wars
Come on out mech lovers!
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>>284244101
>Cing gone
>Cavia gone
>Bizarre gone
>Neversoft gone
>Tri-Ace forced to mobile
>Mistwalker forced to mobile
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>>284244101
<they sucked ass somewhere in their decision making.
yeah, because they put too much effort into making a really excellent game, when they should just make a competent game and market the hell out of it.
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>>284246507
Well at this point I think everyone knows by now. My job is done
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>>284246919
th-they're just incompetent! that's all! heh, their games were garbage a-anyway.
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>>284210530
Literally the only right answer
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>Ctrl+F "Threads of Fate"
>0 results

smh /v/, smh
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>>284247797
Great taste anon. Dewprism is really good
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>>284223867
My nigga. EO3 is so fun.

EO in general is amazing.
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>>284242747
>>284232103
How much of this series is available in english?
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