Bethesda books first-ever E3 appearance: big announcement impending

I hope oblivion has involvement with this

>>284182543
Oh fucking boy, Skyrim with guns. I can't fucking wait.

>>284182676
It'll be a new game using the Skyrim engine!

oh shit

im so hyped for oblivion 3

>>284182724
>Skyrim engine

Day 1 GOTYAY!

I feel like im the only person who doesnt like a single game they make

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>>284182543

POST YFW WHEN IT'S STILL BASED ON GAMEBRYO

>>284182543
I already knew this was gonna happen since that guy came here and told us all that shit about Fallout 4, including the E3 announcement.

Bethesda is a shit dev and a shit pub

Will never not pirate their products

Naa, it's going to be a new TES, kids love Skyrim

>In less than a year, there will have been a two-term US presidency between Fallout 3 and 4

>If Fallout 4 is released after January 20, Fallout 3 will have spanned three US presidencies before getting a sequel.

>>284182543
>another gamebryo vomit
so hype...

Bethesda is more of a publisher now. The main focus will be on other developers' games.

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oh boy

>>284182850
>i don't like the developers
>i still play all of their games, i just refuse to pay for no reason

don't pirate it OR buy it if you don't like the devs

So is the next Fallout actually gonna be fun to play?
ooorrrr shit like the rest?

>>284182543
>wanting another Bethesda Fallout

Walking sim in Boston. Oh boy! My penis is tingly!

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>"We're proud to announce first ever Bethesda home console"

>>284182880
>Fallout 3 will have spanned three US presidencies before getting a sequel.
But we've only had one new president since FO3 was released

It's a press conference. That's a solid 30 to 45 minutes. That means more than one announcement.

I'd say FO4 and TES VI are given. That Battlecry game will probably get some coverage, and Arkane will spill the beans on Dishonored 2 with id sperging about the new Doom

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>Fallout 3 with diagonal walking animations and d̶r̶a̶g̶o̶n̶s Cazador Behemoths

sold

>>284182950
Why are you IN a Fallout thread if you don't even fucking LIKE the Fallout games??

What the fuck is wrong with you people, fuck off from these discussions if you don't even enjoy Fallout

Can't wait for Fallout 4 with S.P.E.C.I.A.L. cut out and the perks arranged in fucking constellations.

>>284182850
>Shit dev and pub
>Still pirates
>denial

Enjoy being a retard.

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did you ever think that maybe this one wont be fallout 4? instead a new title instead of rehashing the same series over and over :D

what anon, y-you didnt? oh o-okay

>>284183087
Nah the leaker who posted a bunch of FO4 animation said there still won't be diagonal running. The running animations will look the same as New Vegas most likely. It's gonna run on the Skyrim engine (duh) so enjoy having that Skill system carried over.

>Inb4 it's TES collection, featuring a HD version of skyrim and upscaled ports of oblivion and morrowind

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>hear shit about Oblivion
>play Oblivion
>it's better than Skyrim

The quests are more engaging by far and the roleplaying mechanics are superior.

>hear shit about Fallout 3
>it's all true

World makes no sense, gameplay is just shooting stuff, no roleplaying at all.

>>284183201
Skyrim 2.

>>284183261
information* not animation

>>284183261
>A nameless animator posts his own work and says it's from an unannounced high profile game

Gee, never seen that one before. Must be legit.

>>284183325

>The quests are more engaging by far

This is absolutely fucking true.

Oblivion has a lot of failings, from potato faces to that fucking dialogue mini game.

But the quest design is invariably much, MUCH better.

>>284182803
>>284182724
No, no, guys. It will be a completely new engine. Creation 2.0!

With how shitty and broken the last couple elder scrolls and fallout games were I'm not looking forward to whatever trainwreck this is going to be.

I just hope we'll see some Dishonored 2. And not a fucking CGI trailer, an in-game trailer.

Probably not, but I can hope.

>>284183425
Which is just the old engine in a fancy new package!

>>284183325
>>it's better than Skyrim
Your issue is that you consider it a positive quality.

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>We're happy to announce F4llout: Online

>>284183418
Right?

>traveling back from Kavatch
>stop in a town to rest
>encounter a paranoid schizophrenic who wants me to spy on the townsfolk

Awesome.

That's a memorable quest.

I literally have trouble recalling quests from Skyrim and I probably put more hours into that piece of shit.

>>284183194
>>284182929
>defending a company that wins GOTY awards while the game in question was broken on PS3
>and this happened 3 times in a row

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>>284182543

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>>284182836
It will be buggy and dumbed down compared to previous entry regardless of what engine it will use.

Oh fucking god. Imagine if it will become another fucking Skyrim? Imagine all those faggot brodudes and gamergirls acting as if it is Jesus Christ of video games while completely disregarding previous entries.

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>>284183602
>And proudly developed by Zenimax

>>284182849
screencap?

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>>284182543
>Some random shitty announcements nobody cares about like new Elder Scrolls Online content or that ASSFAGGOT MOBA shit they have some studio working on
>Doom 4 gameplay footage they showed behind closed doors at quakecon
>Dishonored 2 teaser announcement trailer or whatever Arkane game is working on
>Skyrim re-release announcement for the shit current gen consoles
>Bunch of boring shit that isn't video games
>F4LLOUT CGI teaser announcement trailer right at the very end

This is exactly what will happen, I swear to god

>>284183479
>Not Fallout/Elder Scrolls game
>In game trailer
>A sequel to Dishonored
You're asking for 3 miracles there

>>284182543
I hope it's a new elders scrolls.
Fuck fallout

>>284183373
I meant information. He said the info he was posting was known by about ~80 employees besides himself, so he felt safe posting it.

Details he posted included

>Dog joins you
>Boston post-FO3
>FO3 protag cameos
>robo-taxis (think GTAV)
>skill system carried over from Skyrim
>no VATS
>3 kinds of mutants
>big E3 announcement, they've worked really hard on the game
>Boston, mountains, forests, a university, a theme park reminiscent of Chernobyl, docks
>standard 4 DLCs planned, expanding the world map
>metro tunnels are all one connected web beneath the city
>lots of different terrains, won't be a bunch of copypasting
>run animation still doesn't run diagonally

>>284183978
Oh and I forgot one of the best new details, you can pick Ghoul in character creation.

>>284183978
Still completely unfounded. I could make a list of bulletin points like that right now and it would be just as "credible".

I am looking forward to this exciting E3 announcement of Wolfenstein II: More Newer, More Ordering.

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>>284182543
INB4
>Fallout Reboot
>Super Future sci-fi
>No more open world
>More liner than CoD
>Political statement based writing with a hint of SJW
>ACCESSIBLE ACCESSIBLE ACCESSIBLE ACCESSIBLE ACCESSIBLE!!!!!
>So accessible that it even gets a strait smartphone port. Nothing needs to change between console and phone port since the game is that accessible!
>Needs to sell 30.5 million copies to break even or no more Fallout. EVER.
>Turns out Everyone associated with the production of Fallout was quietly bought by EA

>>284183978
>no VATS
BGS is dumb, but not dumb enough to do something like this

>run animation still doesn't run diagonally
They already fixed this in Skyrim you dumb cunt

>>284183556
Why wouldn't be? Would "worse than skyrim" be better?

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>>284183978
>lots of different terrains, won't be a bunch of copypasting

>Falling for this again

>>284184126
If he was trying to bullshit people he would just say stuff we wanted to hear. I got the impression from his manner of speaking and his posts that he was genuine, but that's just my opinion.

It's not like Smash Bros where the leak could set the internet on fire, he was just sharing info because he was really excited to tell us about the game. He said specifically "see you guys at E3 ;)" and now viola, bethesda doing the first ever E3 showing. He said there would be more leaks elsewhere, on more credible sites I imagine

>>284184210
Is there enough tin foil in the world for this?

The Elder Scrolls: CHIMout

>post apocalyptic setting game set in the wastes o Tamriel following the realization of CHIM by the dwemer

>>284182832
You are amongst dozens and dozens of threadshitters on /v/ who hijack any discussion of any Bethesda game other than Morrowind, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>284183978
I know this is bait, but Dog as in the one from Dead Money?

>>284184315
I never "fell for it" prior, so idk why you'd say 'again'.


If anyone thought New Vegas was gonna be different from Fallout 3 that's their own fault. Of course a game built off the same engine is gonna look and play the same

>>284183948

Dishonored was given franchise status by Bethesda after the sales exceeded expectations though, so a sequel is not unlikely.

The focus in this conference will undoubtably be on Fallout/Elder Scrolls though.

>>284184413
Holy fuck how new are you

How can you be this fucking dumb, I've made up more credible fake bullshit out of boredom

>>284183846
RLM is shit and Mike Stoklasa's humor isn't funny.

I bet you think AVGN is amazing too.

>>284184530
no, i meant like a dog companion. and it's not bait you fucking faggot, i was in the thread and posted what questions i remember him answering.

>tfw you liked fallout 3

I mean, yeah NV was better, but I still put 80 hours into FO3 and enjoyed it

>>284184584
I'm waiting for it to be disproved. So far all I'm seeing is confirmation of something he said would happen. We'll see at E3 if he was full of shit or completely telling the truth.

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i lost my hype ticket, where can i get a new one?

>>284184761
>>tfw you liked fallout 3

Fallout 3 was Bethesda's last good game. I have zero hopes for the next one being good after suffering through the borefest that was Skyrim

>>284183648
Im honestly trying to give a fuck but just can't...

>>284183760
Fuck man you are so right it hurts. I can already tell you i'm going to buy it and play the shit out of it even though I know its going to be dumbed down

>>284184761
>80 hours
did you even play the game

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>>284184647
Do you get buttflustered whenever you see his face?

>>284184761
I did too anon. I did literally everything in that game, the last thing I did was orbital strike the Citadel to get the Dirty Harry magnum, then i turned it off and never played it again after all DLC, 120 hours in

this was on xbox 360, without any patches

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>>284183846
>Full CGI trailer for fallout 4

>>284184647

>Not enjoying the Comedic Stylings of Mike 'The Nigger Gravedigger' Stoklasa and Jay 'Kike Doomsday' Bauman

Wow anon, you have some seriously shit taste

>>284185339
He's just completely unfunny. He's "that guy" who commentates on movies in the background pointing out various implausibilities in a really self-satisfied way.

>>284184761
Well yeah, before NV pretty much everybody loved FO3. It had an attractive world to explore and was a fun RPG.

But after NV, I honestly can't go back. But to be perfectly honest, after Evil Within and Wolfenstein, I've got a lot of faith in Bethesda to be able to give good enough guidance to the devs to make them deliver. Evil Within is my personal goty and Wolfenstein was extremely enjoyable. In any case I'm cautiously optimistic.

>>284183261
>still won't be diagonal running
Skyrim has diagonal running already. It's the most complained about animation in older Beth games. They wouldn't take a step backward for no reason and take that away. You and/or the "animator" are full of shit.

>>284182543
call me when we get another obsidian fallout

bethesda can't into fallout

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so how will bethesda dumb down the gameplay this time
>Plasma weapons and guns get fused into just weapons

>>284182543
>still having faith in F4 after Skyrim

>Another lore rape story
>Exploding corpses everywhere
>SPECIAL reduced to SEAL
>Massive map with nothing to do with
>Cinematic experience!
>Steamlined gameplay!

>45/10 GOTYAY

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>>284186270
>But after NV, I honestly can't go back.
You tried Tale of Two Wastelands? Fallout 3 with New Vegas' improvements; it's awesome.
Also Wolfenstein was probably my absolute favorite FPS of recent times. Didn't like Evil Within at all, though.

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>>284183024
>start console
>home screen freezes

>>284182543
>there are people on /v/ legitimately excited for another bethesda fallout

>>284186667
it's fine though because you buy user made components that will make it work :^)

>>284183048
I think he means Bush, Obama, and that new guy.

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Why would anyone be excited?

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>>284183105
Please don't say such things anon. Please?

>>284186628
>that fucking character
Contemplate suicide.

TTW doesn't fix any of the core flaws with Fallout 3, it just makes the combat, stats and some of the mechanics more tolerable.

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>>284187060
But anon, it's my edgelord bandit man character

>>284187149
You should still contemplate suicide just for that tattoo alone, ironic or not.

>>284183978
>It will most likely be next gen
>Previous protag cameos
>From a character building game
>On a system that can't possibly have saved data from last gen

So they are just screwing over consolefags now?

>>284182543
Oh God please say it doesn't use the same fucking awful engine as 3 and Skyrim, I don't want those fuck awful animations and plastic graphics yet again.

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>>284187234
Oh, if that's what bothers you, then I get that. I don't like it either. But it's the only skin that's even a little dirty. It's either that or pristine skin that makes no sense. Trust me I hate that stupid fucking tattoo as well.

>>284183425
Their engineers have worked 24/7 to bring us the new Big Bang Engine, which also is in no way affiliated with Gamebryo ("we mean it this time").

>§
>god

what if it's a elderscrolls fallout crossover with oblivion portals opening up in the wasteland and dragons flying out of them?

>>284186628
I normally don't give a fuck about ENB but that looks pretty good.

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I just hope they change the goddamn engine already, this isn't 2003 anymore

Even though we just had Skyrim, I'd prefer another Elder Scrolls. I could never in a million years get too much elder scrolls.

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>post yfw Fallout 4 is LITERALLY Skyrim with guns

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>>284187752
Download more mods fag, it's possible to make New Vegas look somewhat tolerable even without an ENB

obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oxoJJk0vRc

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>>284182836
uugggh

>>284188029
RADIATION
DRAGONS

CURVED
MACHETE

>>284182543

being excited for anything Bethesda does when they are a trash tier dev that has been declining since 2003

My brother is a low level employee at one of their development buildings and he told me he's overheard chatter of an updated Morrowind and when he asked questions about it people clammed up and told him not to mention it again.

>>284188194

Bethesda has kind of always been a shitty developer, but their games are always bold enough to be good even with the flaws.

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>>284188196
Fascinating, tell us more.

>>284188032
It isn't even about the graphics.

>>284188196

Does your Dad work at Nintendo, by any chance?

>>284188336

but they arent bold anymore.
every successive game has been less complex or revolutionary.

>>284188196

>this happens
>all the people working on Skywind get fucking wrecked

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>>284188032
>more mods
I'm fine with what I have really, I just really hope they change the goddamn engine already, it's the same fucking thing that powered morrowind for fuck sake
I was just looking for an excuse to post my strong independent gunslinger who don't needs no man

can't wait for skyrim 2

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>>284188423
No my dad left when we were 11.

>>284182543

I hope Obsidian stays far far away from Fallout this time. New Vegas was godawful.

>>284188196

Bethesda is stupid if they think thats what we want. People like Morrowind because Morrowind is Morrowind. I don't want to play a game that's Skyrim but looks like Morrowind.

>>284188537

Skyrim was probably their most balanced and functional open world game to date, but it lacked all the ambition and charm the older games that are broken to all hell had.

It's going to be Fallout New Vegas for PS4 and Xbone with mod $hop.

I'll buy it regardless
they could walk up on stage carting in a wheelbarrow of horse shit and slowly tip in onto the stage while explaining that this is their opinion of the consumers

and i'd still be fucking hyped

>>284188919
>average gamer

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>>284188707
fallout 3 faggot pls go

>>284188602
>I'm fine with what I have really

Get some more mods and I guarantee you'll change your mind, you have no excuse.

>implying FO4 won't be running on a marginally improved and optimized Skyrim engine

>>284182543
I hope they bring Skyrim to the PS4. I'd be so fucking hyped for that.

>>284188985
trolled xd

>>284188727
If they did a remake they would probably wreck by adding new features like a quest tracker and stuff. I would be all for it if it were removable. A next gen looking morrowind wouldn't bother me but I just know they'll do too much.
It's like when an artist creates something awesome and then goes "oh well I'll just add this" and it's ruined.

>>284189043
fine what should I get?

>>284182543
>Oblivion, Skyrim, FO3 and FO:NV exist
>people still think there's something to look forward to

>>284182543
It's going to be doom, don't get your hopes up. If were lucky they'll also reveal something about prey 2.

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>>284189084
>now to go post my victory on la raddit! surely they will find this ROFL worthy!

>>284182543
Skyrim with guns.
I hope we'll get rid of SPECIAL attributes(they're ableist) and they'll give us Rad Magic and Rad Shouts.

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>bethesda
Not even once.

Wonder if they'll announce they're working on something new with Mikami's studio. The Last of Us Resident Evil Within 6.

I just really hope they can get the shooting to feel tight. That's all I care about really.

and then maybe have it take place somewhere thats not the west coast.

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>Fallout 4 announcement coming
>Obsidian not allowed near it, or any Fallout ever again
>NV going to be declared non-canon

Everything's comin up Todd

>>284189272
I see a fellow enlightened radmer *tips pipboy*

>>284189251
There's an irony to making a post like that with that image.

>>284183201
Rehashing what exactly?
Bethesda have made exactly one Fallout game, with a spin off after that being handled by Obsidian.
Pete Hines at one point said they didn't just buy the rights to Fallout so they could make one game and that's it.
Which should be obvious.

>>284189362
Obsidian wants to make a fallout LA

I hope they use the same engine so porn mods will come out faster.

>>284184276
No anon you don't get it.
You're trying to tell us that Italian drivers are better than female asian drivers which means Italian drivers are good.

Which isn't a case.

>>284189362
I dream to live in this world

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>>284183978
>>skill system carried over from Skyrim
well it was fun while it lasted

>>284189362
>I love making shit up on the internet

And you people call Todd a liar

>>284189453
And the Toddler isn't against it, too.

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>getting excited for E3 post 6th-gen

>>284189362

like canon/non-canon matters anymore when they got it so hilariously wrong with their first step out the gate. FO3's story is unbelievably retarded

Wet 2

>>284189312
"Get two voice actors" should be up there.

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>>284189385
honestly, i stopped giving a fuck about what images i use a long time ago. back to fallout discussion,

what can fallout 4 do to make it not shit?

What would be more beneficial?
Todd Howard going to Obsidian
or Chris Avellone going to Bethesda

Howard's understanding of the business aspect of VG could tighten up Obsidians dev teams.

Avellone is known for his writing in VG and could improve an area of need for Bethesda.

>>284189453
Of course they do, NV was the only successful game they ever made, and it took them zero effort only because they just modded FO3.

When Obsidian has to make content of their own you get trash like Wasteland 2.

>>284189362
obsidian is working on a tank game at the moment though

>>284183261
>It's gonna run on the Skyrim engine (duh) so enjoy having that Skill system carried over.
That's not how it works fam.
An engine and game mechanics are completely separate entities.
The engine is just a compilation of tools to get assets and mechanics they make to run.
Fallout and TES have completely different systems for the RPG aspects.
Now I'm not saying Fallout 4 isn't going to be dumbed down, because it is.
It's fucking Bethesda after all, each subsequent game they've made was more idiot proof than the last, but that doesn't mean it being on the same engine means a mechanic from an entirely different series is going to show up.

Fuck I just want Bethesda to hurry up with this game so that we might possibly see another Obsidian Fallout spin off again.
Maybe this time with more than 10 months given to them to make the game.

>>284188985

Liking New Vegas is a /v/ meme. The game is terrible. The whole map is boring with nothing fun to explore and find. And god the endings are so bad. At least Fallout 3 had awesome fun locales like the giant ship and the forest. New Vegas has jack shit. Its all desert.

>>284189558
Why should STALKER be the only post apocalyptic game?

>>284189542
>the children cavern
that's something I will never forget. them mungos amaraite?

>>284189652
the business aspect is irrelevant to the game quality.

>>284189487

At least this is one thing that is likely to never happen. S.P.E.C.I.A.L. is so integral to the FO experience they'd be insane to remove it. I think they even said that themselves during the FO3 development

>>284189679
Every Obsidian game tanks regardless.

>>284182543
early teaser just for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol7I0XwYTJE

>>284189652
If Avellone went to Bethesda, he'd probably only improve the story and aesthetic design. The structure of the game, the graphics, the gameplay etc. would still be the same old simplistic Bethesda stuff. While New Vegas was nice, the core game under the bonnet was still rancid.

I'd much rather send Todd Howard to Obsidian and see what happens.

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>Being hyped for another Bethesda game after Skyrim

At least Fallout 3 was mechanically enjoyable, even if people bitch about the writing. There is going to be level scaling out of the ass, SPECIAL toned down to three letters, CoD style regenerating health, and after two years of patches it will still be bugged to shit.

I wish you guys would stop acting like saying a game is terrible just automatically discredits any fun that others may have had playing it.

Instead of saying "This game is bad" why not just say "I didn't like playing this game"?

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>>284189558
someone wanted people to not like what they didn't like so much that they went through this much trouble....I actually have autism and this is the most autistic thing I've ever seen.

>>284189871
who dat semon demon

>>284189629
Release mod tools. I know everyone seems to think that letting the community fix it is somehow bad, but it's obvious they can do a better job than Bethesda.

>>284189652
Avellone going to Bethesda
He is already keeping alive Obsidian thanks to his writing since that's the only thing people care about in the Obsidian games.

>inb4 I played NV for the shooting!

>>284189871
skyrim is better than fallout 3: 2 melee weapons and 1 unarmed weapon.

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We'll find out at E3 if any of your worrying or hype is justified, please shitpost once we've seen the announcement.

>>284189664
Yeah, you're right. And Fallout 3 is just modded Oblivion.

>>284189897
No because it's not Fallout 2.5

>>284182950

1 and 2 were very fun to play. this will be shit like 3 and NV though.

>>284189312
They don't work that hard on the Engine and graphics because then they can spend it on the actual gameplay and the different things in the world.

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>>284189963
Then how about you shut the fuck up and MAKE a Fallout fan sequel on their engine, if you're such a computer wizard, you whiny faggot.

>>284190107
HERE'S YOUR REPLY

>open thread
>"Not made by Bethesda"
>same FO3 pictures posted all over again

It's been years, how many time do you need to repeat the same fucking things.
It's driving me crazy, feels like being in a loop.

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>>284189710
and fallout 3 is a adventure made up of passing the same piles of green-tinted rubble over and over and over again. in addition, fallout 3 has ONE ending, followed by a slideshow with slight narration differences. i prefer the game that gives me an option whether or not to side with the technophiles.

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>>284182543
I'm hyped.

>>284190253
>>284189084

>>284189664
But they didn't make Wasteland 2. But you are right about their own games being trash. South Park was even more casual than anything Bethesda has put out and Dungeon Siege 3 was panned by everyone. Alpha Protocol was fun, and Pillars might be good.

>>284190202
Because that takes effort and it's easier to whine and regurgitate screencaps on the internet.

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>>284190107
>on the actual gameplay and the different things in the world.
AHAHAHAH, they just level-scale the shit out of the world without having any real gameplay in it.

>>284189542
Speaking of retarded stories.
There is a rumor that the story of Fallout 4 is going to be a battle over the power plant at Niagra Falls between A modern military force armed with assault weapons and machine guns from Ronto and a tribal force armed with spears and shields modeled after the spartans.

Dunno if it is true but that is a retard level premise right there.

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>not available

When this is announced,

>WAY BETTER THAN NV GUYS

>NV RULES YOU SHILL

>GUYS I STILL LIKE 3 BEST XD


June is going to be insufferable.

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TESO Expansion

>>284186270
>Bethesda developed Wolfenstein and Evil Within

>>284190454

sound like your average /v/ shitposting.

>>284190502
is TESO free yet?
I kinda want to try it

>>284189629
Not mention a single previously established faction or enemy

>>284189728
Ask Interplay,BIS, and Troika how irrelevant the business aspect was.

If isn't done by Obsidian, I don't care

>>284186851
and people share their fixes and you can have people visit your house and do it for you!

>>284190630
is literally irrelevant to the game quality.

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>>284190619
>Not retcon/'improve' a single previously established faction or enemy

FIFY

>>284190439
lol sounds like a pretty epic FAIL to me too

New Fallout or Elder Scrolls exclusively coming to Xbox One. Microsoft has said that they'll make up for losing Street Fighter 5, and they have had a long history with Bethesda. They likely have finally scored the two series as exclusives for this gen, which is really going to hurt Sony. Well, hurt Sony more than their pathetic Order fiasco.

>>284182543
It's going to be fucking DOOM and we all know it.

I'm putting money on Fallout 4 going in the pile with all Valve three-quels and The Last Guardian named "Games that will never come out but will also never be cancelled".

>>284190884

Doom is not a big name in modern times. Nobody cares for it. Is going to be a teaser for the new Elder Scrolls and Fallout.

isn't fallout4 rumored to take place in Boston? I thought they trademarked something to do with that.

>>284189897

You need to grow a thicker skin. People will call you a faggot and say your favorite game is shit, and you shouldn't care because they're just anonymous fuckers on the internet. We're talking about value judgments anyway, not scientific facts. They're always subjective and people shouldn't have to preface every one of their posts with "in my opinion", especially on 4chan. Someone thinking a game you like is shit doesn't discredit the fun you had with it.

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>>284190826
>Skyrim biggest platform is PC
>Todd Howard hypes up PC in interviews
>sells out of Microsoft
>PC gets the shaft

>yfw they do a turn based fallout because of the popularity/success of indie TB games
>yfw there's default isometric view and F3/NV option view
>yfw it sells gazillion copies
>yfw real rpgs are back

>>284190992
>yfw when you're a delusional retard

>>284190947
Supposedly. I'd rather Seattle or something..

after the success of TESO is going to Fallout Online.

also Dishonored 2

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>>284190992
>>284191069
>mfw these morans need to get a brian

>>284190980
MS has this thing called money. They give money to the developers to offset development costs and make up the potential loss of going exclusive. No loss whatsoever. Also, the PC versions of Skyrim and Fallout weren't all that much better than the 360 versions. All you had was the ability to add mods, which people only used to add weird fucking anime wives and long swords just like their hero Sephiroth-kun. The PS3 versions were shit, anyone will tell you. But they ran incredibly well on MS' hardware because MS helped optimize them. Imagine how great they'll runnas exclusives. I'm pretty excited.

New Elder Scrolls or no sale.

>>284190942
>DOOM isn't a big name

Surely you be jestin'. It's a Sci-Fi themed FPS; even people who don't give a shit about DOOM they'll look into it because of Halo, Titanfall and Destiny keeping the genre popular.

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>>284191343
I know, I noticed. They bought the rights to Skyrim as well, which fucked us gamers over.

Neither Bethesda or Microsoft cares about players, they just want to Jew you off.

>>284190741
Not true.
Obsidians reach often escapes its grasp.
Somebody who knows when and if to drop a feature is something Obsidian has lacked over the years.
This has led to buggy and incomplete games over the years.This has led to the "Studio that franchises go to die" and Bugsidian reputation.
If you do not care about the business aspect as a dev you have a hobby in the VG industry not a job.

>>284191343
>All you had was the ability to add mods, which people only used to add weird fucking anime wives and long swords just like their hero Sephiroth-kun

"I've never played any Bethesda game on PC and actually modded them" -anon

Fuck Fallout. I wanna see Doom.

>>284190331
>Obsidian
>Bad games
pick one

They're the best RPG makers in the business; they just keep getting rushed for time because they get contracted to do sequels.

>>284191805
close enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef_41JpwqdE

Has any human being ever successively modded New Vegas and had it run fine with no problems?

And I mean fully modded, at least 250 esps and 20 GBs of textures

>>284191884
So you really think that Dungeon Siege 3, despite its glaring problems and lack of redeeming features was good at all?

>>284182543
Does it have unlimited quests?

>>284189664
>Obsidian made Wasteland 2

Are you retarded?

>>284192016
>20 GB of textures
I have NMC's mod for vanilla vegas running right now anon, but it's only about 3gb of textures in all

>>284183024
>plug in console
>wire whips around the room
>game ejects disc through ceiling and it never comes down

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>>284189897

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>>284182543
>Fallout 4 by Bethesda
just kill me now
make it stop

>>284191884
Your RPG masters are working on

A card game
A WoT ripoff
A shitty ruski MMO
A KS RPG(Its profitability depends on people who did not pledge.It may have made all the money its going to)

>>284191343
Bethesda would never fuck over the PC crowd, but I can see them not making a game for PlayStation because they've always been shit at PlayStation games.

>>284192401
>S.P.E.C.I.A.L removed
>Three dawg returns
>Enclave will be the bad guys again

I do hope they announce it.

>>284182543
>another floaty WRPG with "le black comedy" where the enemies level up with you
I couldn't be less hyped

>>284192598
>three dog's son, four dog

>>284192512
It just sucks that all their open world games shine on the PC and then they put us in the backseat, even though their PC sales have been skyrocketing.

If Todd Howard won't be honest about his deals with Microsoft it's a major Toddler lying moment again.

>all these scrubs complaining about level scaling

I understand now why you people play WRPG instead of JRPGs

>>284192783
I have never once had problems with level scaling in any game because I don't put points into bullshit and I upgrade my equipment. I will never understand the complaint.

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>These are the people who play Fallout

>>284190975
This is such a dickless, childish argument. If you sound like you're a stupid asshole, you are throwing away your supposed opinion because you appear irrational. It's all about appearances. It has nothing to do with people feeling offended. Same reason that if you talk about black crime using the word "nigger", nobody is going to take you seriously, even if technically you are saying something reasonable, because most people who speak that way aren't saying something reasonable. It's perfectly natural associative judgement. Everybody does it.

>>284192929
The fuck? The problem with level-scaling is that there is no challenge whatsoever. And it's monotonous and lazy.

>>284192939
tl;dr version?

>>284193023
I have never once heard anyone voice this complaint. Every time, it's people bitching that it makes levelling useless because the enemies get stronger.

>its going to be the same engine as all the other Bethesda games
>it's going to fucking suck

will they figure out diagonal walking animations this time!?!?

WHO KNOWS!?!?!

>>284193073
>game is too big
>too many quests
>I have sub 80 IQ

>>284193126
LMAAAO. Where the fuck have you been kid?

When you see a frost troll beat the shit out of a dragon you know something is wrong.

And Oblivion was unplayable because of it.

>>284182543

Here comes todd howard bullshitting

>>284193230
I see, thanks

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>>284182836

>>284193181
Bethesda doesn't learn to make their games differently, they make the product that their fans buy knowing that console users will be content with it and that PC users will mod the holy living fuck out of it.

>>284193268
I don't have any idea what you think you're reading, I specifically said it wasn't a problem. Is this trolling in 2015?

>Mad Max later this year
>Fallout 4 hype soon

hurry up devs, I need my open world post-apocalypse fill

>>284193446
Lol?

Level-scaling makes for rewardless, unchallenging and monotonous gameplay.

Nothing in Skyrim or Oblivion was even remotely challenging whatsoever. And jacking up the difficulty level is dumb and artificial.

You're supposed to run into monsters that range from easy to impossible every once in a while, not always beatable pushoevers because the level-scaling holds your hand and makes sure every Timmy the 12 year old Xbox player can win so that when his dad asks him "son, are you winning?", he can say "yes daddy I am winning!!"

>>284193339
Ignore that anon. That's not what it says. It's talking about how the game rail-roads you with quests and doesn't allow any freedom. You have to either do it the games way, or not at all.

Two examples:

If you shoot the powder ganger at the beginning after he threatens the town, before you get the quest to deal with the situation, you're vilified. Likewise, if you find the sunken bomber, you can do nothing with it until later on when you have the quest to raise it etc.

Basically, New Vegas is lifeless.

>>284194040
No he says that Goodsprings vilified him when he killed the powder ganger which does not happen unless you shoot and kill someone from goodsprings.

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>>284189789

>>284194040
>Find a bomber at the bottom of a lake
>Do anything with it
What were you supposed to do? Call the museum?

>>284194206
I'm just quoting from the article, to prove I read it.

It does make a good point about quests though. Doesn't reward exploration.

>>284192612
>le black comedy

what the fuck are you even trying to say

>>284194040
What the fuck would you do with a sunken airplane?

Why would you want to do anything?

>>284188589
Maybe they got bought. Stranger things have happened.

>>284194451
Except you get all the quests from exploration

Fallout 4 would be cool. I'd probably buy it eventually, as I was kinda disappointed by F3 and FNV.

Skyrim 2 wouldnt be a purchase for me at all.

Iunno, are they plotting anything new?

>>284194443
>>284194561

Jesus fuck, am I the developer or something? I don't know. It could start a quest line to find out about the plane.

>>284192992
>Everybody does it.

I don't. I always value the substance of the argument in question, not the the way it's put. If anything, being assertive, having strong opinions, and being brutally honest can often be more convincing to fair-minded people. Trying to discredit your opposition by pointing out how mean they are or how they used a bad word is fallacious.

You're making a ton of mistakes here. You're thinking people who act in such a way care about your opinion and are trying to win you over. You're thinking everyone on 4chan thinks like you. You're thinking the same boring standards that apply to real life and places like Reddit should apply to this place. You're comparing political arguments to someone calling your favorite videogame shitty. I'm pretty sure someone calling Fallout 3 a bad game without expanding doesn't care if you think he's an asshole or if they don't change your mind. Worst of all, you're taking 4chan seriously.

>>284194632
No.

Do you find a broken car on the road and think "I wonder what I can do with this car and how it got here?"

>>284193824
Why are you repeating yourself?

>>284194040
>You're vilified
>HURR DURR HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THEY'D HATE ME IF I KILLED THEIR LEADER THANKS SAWYER YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE
>Find a sunken bomber
>Expect it to be a treasure you can put in your pocket or someshit and not a prop, later revealed to be a plot item
You suck at video games.

>>284189160
tale of two wastelands, project brazil (if it's ever fucking finished) all the someguy stuff, some better nights mods. A realistic enb. any sort of texture overhaul

>>284194816
I quoted from the picture, you god damn fucking nigger. It's not my own personal experiences.

>>284194632
>find a plane that's been here since before the apocalypse
>expect it to have a backstory you can ask people about and raise it 200 fucking years later
And who would you fucking ask first?

The next game will be a fallout moba, using assets from 3, and shoddily handled. Bethesda wants to get in on the esport craze but has no idea what they're doing. The game is so poor it becomes ironic to enjoy. It quickly becomes mainstream and becomes Bethesda's tent pole franchise

>>284194641
>and being brutally honest can often be more convincing to fair-minded people
Not really. 4chan isn't fair-minded, and anyone who you deliver "a brutal opinion" to wont see your advice. They will see some asshole acting like if he thinks he's somehow better than them. Really, if you can say it without acting like an asswipe, then say it that way. Otherwise it's completely worthless as it'll just get ignored. The content means jack shit if no one will listen to it, and just because you pretend to listen to the content does not mean that everyone is willing to do the same. Learn some tact.

>>284183024
>you walk in the room and it falls a couple inches to settle on your table

>>284189835
I was expecting a bait-and-switch.

>>284194814
Because you don't seem to understand the problem with level-scaling...

Even RPGcodexes motto is doesn't scale to your level, because level-scaling is horrible and lazy in RPGs, at least the way it's done in TES...

Might I suggest you try a game like Gothic 2: NotR if you want to know what actual character progress feels like.

>>284194986
>TTW
already done
>project brazil
never heard of it
>someguy stuff
already have
>better night
already have
>ENB
Fuck no
>texture
already done

like I said before I'm happy with my install

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>>284183978
Just like the previous 50 leaks.
Like that site everyone was convinced about
And Smash characters.

>>284191924
Welp, now I have to go play more Doom 2.

Their announcement is they're going bankrupt.

>>284195380
>Because you don't seem to understand the problem with level-scaling...
I understand the problem you're talking about, why do you think I don't even though you've told me twice? It isn't the problem I've read people complain about, hence when I said that, and even then I said I didn't understand why that was a problem. Why do you think I don't know what "actual character progression feels like?" I think you need to stop reading words that aren't there.

Are you doing ok?

>>284194816
>>284195056
>find ancient relic from before the war pretty much intact
>do nothing with it
>can't sell the information to the NCR
>can't tell the BoS you found a pre-war warmachine pretty much intact
>can't steal anything from it
>can't decide to recover it yourself and use it

>>284195593
They made over a billion dollars with Skyrim. I think they're going to make it.

>>284183792
What do you have against zenimax?

>>284183978
The only part of this I believe is Boston, because that is actually a legit cool setting for a Fallout game.
The rest is obvious b8.

>>284195223

I guess you completely ignored my second paragraph

Anyway, I'm not saying acting like an unrepentant dickhead is always the best solution. I'm saying you shouldn't care unless you take this place way too seriously, and you shouldn't expect this place to change to fit your dull standards. There are hundreds of other forums on the internet where you can discuss games without being called a niggerfaggot. That's probably where you should go if any of this bothers you.

>>284195686
>because BoS and NCR have tons of explosive stockpiles and training programs to use a bomber
>because the BoS are extremely interested in conventional Pre-War technology
>because the player character has tons of uses for plane parts
>because the player character has the capability to rebuild a fucking bomber and then make securitrons command it

>>284194632
The reviewer is an idiot who contradicts himself in the majority of his review.

>Hurr, why doesn't this place/thing trigger a quest line?
>God, why are their quest markers telling me where to go?

He also thought Doc Mitchell had a quest line because you can tell him "You said before you had something taken from you." What a dumb autist.

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>mfw I loved FO3 and FNV and there isn't a god damn thing any of you can do to stop me

>>284196201
>because the BoS are extremely interested in conventional Pre-War technology
well
yeah
they kind of are
like
they're basically cultists and worship pre-war technology

>>284196201
They could have added dialog that says that.

>>284196371
When was the last time you've seen them use a fucking vehicle

>>284192939
Jesus fucking christ.

He complains about being "railroaded" and the world being empty and then in the same breath complains that quests don't get spoon-fed to you and that the NPCs are too talkative? That's just... Wow. Pretty much the only pertinent point he made was complaining about the fact that the map tells you exactly where to go - but I bet if it didn't we'd be right back to "the game is confusing".

>>284196513
Ok
so the thing is
all the energy weapons and power armor and shit
weren't made after the war

>>284192783
>>284192929
>>284193126
It does make leveling useless because the enemies get stronger. Why should fighting bandits be just as difficult as fighting high level vampires? Why should it be easier to go through dwemer ruins at level ten than it is at level 20? That's just shit game design.

>>284196513
Down south and traveling to the east coast

>>284195380
They just prefer the old school method of start at newbie town then gettinbetterville then almosthereburg then BigBoy city.

This allows clear progression and it allows narrative and progression to match up.

This method also does not work in an open world game.

>>284196371
I doubt that the Mojave chapter BoS has enough man power to get to the bomber anyway.
Espically after I slaughtered them all.

>>284195641
>It isn't the problem I've read people complain about
"Most people" happen to be console peons on some casual console board who never played a RPG prior to Oblivion, so yes understandable.

But if you actually listened to the complaints of older, more experienced players, you would realize this is what we have against level-scaling - it is the casualization and dumbing down of games.

Level-scaling was practically unheard of before Oblivion (Morrowind's was too subtle). If this comes as news to you then it's obvious you never played games in the early 2000's or 90's.

>>284196645
>all the energy weapons and power armor and shit weren't made after the war

hwut

>>284195593
You are confusing them with Obsidian anon.

>>284196645
you missed "conventional"
Energy weapons, power armor, pulse guns and solar powered space weapons platforms don't have the same technological value as a bomber that could have been made by themselves had they enough scrap

>>284196731
>This method also does not work in an open world game.
Funny it worked in G2 which is at least semi-open world.

And The Witcher 3 will not use the Toddler Howard method either, but it takes its influence from Gothic.

>>284195380
>Even RPGcodexes motto is doesn't scale to your level,

And post ignored

>>284196902
but energy weapons
are pretty much
like
scattered al over the wasteland
they dont necessarily qualify as
you know
"unconventional" in the fallout universe
and are you reall telling me
that the BoS
who are obsessed with military technology
wouldnt be interested
in a god damn bomber?

I think Daggerfall also had Level Scaling.

Daggerfall's main plot was like 5 dungeons long with over 9000 square miles of RNG-generated emptiness.

Bethesda has ALWAYS been shit.