I just started this and I've never been more overwhelmed

EXPLAIN

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>>284026705

>>284026754
Nothing is explained

level endurance to 40. Google what every weapon you pick up's scaling is, and level up the appropriate stat. I recommend Balder Side Sword and Great Scythe for Dexterity, and any Black Knight weapon for Strength. Keep your shield up at all times. Wear the heaviest armor you can while still maintaining a <25% equip load. Get Havel's Ring. Get the Drake Sword, but don't upgrade it, and ditch it when you find something that scales with Dex or Strength like I said before. Attack things right after they attack you. Hug boss butts.

Steep learning curve. Once you get through it you'll be cheesing the game.

Pick the master key and get havels ring and grass shield ASAP

>>284026705

You have a weapon. Ram that weapon through things. Win game.

>>284026992

>Get the Drake Sword

get out pleb

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>>284026992
>Get the Drake sword

Don't do this OP

The games doesnt explicitly tell you what to do with tutorial windows and waypoints, but its still easy to find out what to do.

Talk to the crestfallen warrior right when you get to firelink, and he tells you where to go for the bells of awakening.

You can easily check what every stat/attribute does with the help button.

The symbols with number ratings (S, A, B, C...) are scaling ratios that determine how much that certain stat affects weapon damage.


Thats enough information to carry you through most of the game.

>>284027095
Did you literally not read a single word after that? I said don't upgrade it, and ditch it as soon as you get something better, but it kills just about every common enemy up until Blighttown in one hit. Fuck off with your shit.

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>>284026992
>>284027229

>Get the Drake sword

>>284026992
please never post again

go to the wikidot wiki. read up on weapon scaling and shield durability, and then go play around with weapons until you find one you like. drake sword is a crutch and doesnt scale, get the claymore off that bridge instead of fucking around with that dragon, it's a much better investment of your time

anyone who tells you to go in blind because that's part of the experience is top tier retarded

>>284026705
like controls or where to go

work with me here

>>284027295
Give me one reason why any of that isn't good advice.

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>>284026992
>>284027229
>Drake sword...

>>284027229
>being this much of a scrub
am I still sleeping or are you actually real

Decide what kind of character you want to make, build it accordingly, explore.

The first person you meet tells you your main objectives.

get the claymore

run past enemies

>>284027402
Why is the Drake Sword so shit on? It's not like at that point in the game you can level up a fucking Claymore to +15 or anything. It's just a placeholder for a few areas.

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>>284026705
Well, it's a trial and error clusterfuck, dying is a part of the gameplay (which is a stupid idea), you're basically "supposed" to die and walk the same 10 minutes paths over and over again. Second playthroughs in Souls games are easy as fuck because the trial and error is gone and the enemies barely have any moves or something that could be called an AI, though.

6/10 game in my book. Never got the hype. Probably casuals who just feel cool playing it.

>>284027514
Because most people used it as a crutch instead of just a place holder.

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>>284027578
Shittest tier bait ever. Goddamn, anon. That's just sad.

All these faggots telling you to google shit and use wikis. This how you fucking dildos "git gud"? Holy shit. OP you are supposed to be overwhelmed it's part of the experience. Learning your way through it. Check the wiki... jesus christ. What a joke you faggots are.

>>284027615
It's a terrible weapon once you get titanite and actually have some options, but for something to use for a bit after the upper Burg, you could do a lot worse.

If you used the Drake Sword after being able to upgrade something that scales well with your abilities up to +10, you're objectively retarded. But that's not what I meant.

>>284027693
He is right though. Dark Souls became popular because of casuals.

>>284027693
Are you an idiot?

>>284026992
That's the most beta, playing it safe, boring way to do the game.
Don't listen to him OP, almost any weapon is viable in this game just level according to the scaling of any weapon you pick, when left to choose between leveling up and leveling your weapon go for weapon, read the description of the stats the game will tell you a lot but you have to read and experiment.

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>>284027762

>>284027382
you're telling somebody on their first playthrough how to play like the biggest casual in the world and half your "advice" is just telling him specifically which exact weapon to use because you saw some epic youtuber say it was OP
it's not even good advice, he doesn't need fucking 40 dex, that's like half the leveling you'd do in the NG
just fuck off, before you ruin hia game with your shit

>>284027615

>"crutch"

I hate when people say this, especially when it relates to RPG's.

If you have a longsword that does 30 damage vs one that does 150 damage with a ranged shockwave attack, why would you ever pick the worse weapon?

I only ever shit on people who use drake swords at high levels, but for quality builds I think its actually a decent enough weapon.

>>284026992
>Google what every weapons scaling is
The information is available in game you fuck

>>284027693
Hello OP, sorry for not letting you have a DaS cocksucking thread. You're always welcome on NeoGAF.

>>284027578
Spoken like an idiot that doesn't learn from his mistakes and probably relies on his level and gear to win.

>>284027853
Where did I say 40 dex, you piece of human garbage? Also, what would YOU recommend? We're all ears.

>>284027867
Not OP, but...no...

>>284027578
>tfw Anor Londo archers
>their arrows push me into the opposite idrection my characters looks, not the opposite direction the arrows come from which would be physically correct
>that disgusting second half of the game
70 % for me.

>>284027916
Maybe he doesn't like mediocre games? If you want challenge, weighty combat and actual fairness, he can just play Monster Hunter 4U which is actually good. Or Platinum games or actual fighting game, although they rarely feel weighty.

>>284026992
>Get the Drake Sword, but don't upgrade it, and ditch it when you find something that scales with Dex or Strength
In the time it takes to shoot the tail off you can get through undead parish and reach Andre.

What weapon should I aim for in a heavily armored Faith build? I'm leaning towards one-handing the Zwei or something but I need ideas.

>>284027864
Maybe he doesn't know how to do that. By googling it, maybe he'll come across it. You fuck. Maybe some icons with some letters next to them don't mean anything to somebody who says they've 'never been more overwhelmed in their life.' You fuck.

>>284027514
Because only a fucking idiot checks the wiki so he can have the strongest weapon in each area, what's the point, can't you play?

Reminder.
>PVP: STR<DEX
>PVE: STR>DEX

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>>284028042

>>284028017
>>284027578
Does anyone have the webm with the guy blocking that hute motherfuck "Taurus" thing but fails at blocking that manlet knight because... reasons? This game has the worst kind of trial and error I've ever seen in my life.

>>284028078
Press Select / Back and the game spells everything out for you. If he's so stupid that he still struggles he deserves to be overwhelmed. You fuck.

>>284028078
>>284028078

Needing google to help you through a game meant to be bestest through player's trial error and guts. And you're calling others fucks? I don't have enougb laughing gifs to fling at you boy

>>284028116
I didn't know about the weapon until my second playthrough, and it made a short section of the game a lot easier to do. Sorry that I used a weapon that the game fucking lets you have. I didn't mean to offend you.

>>284026992
Thanks, I heard VIT and END are best and RES is shit.

>>284027068
I heard master key was bad for first time players because you're likely to end up going to places where you shouldn't go.

>>284027214
I went in knowing it wasn't going to hold my hand but I didn't realise it was to this extent. I find an item or some shit and I have no idea what it does. I light a bonfire and there's all these options that I don't know what they do. I can't even pause the game and I don't even know when the game saves?

>>284027314
Yeah, fuck going in blind. I don't know what the fuck is happening. I'm going to read a bit more before I play.

>>284027331
Controls are okay so far. Where to go is confusing. I keep getting raped by some skeletons in a graveyard, so I guess I'm meant to find another way.

>>284027407
How do I know what character I want to make? I don't know anything about the game.

>>284027578
Seems that way so far but I'm assuming it gits gud as I git gud.

>>284027817
>just level according to the scaling of any weapon you pick, when left to choose between leveling up and leveling your weapon go for weapon
Don't even know what this means.

Git gud

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>>284028017
>bait for the bait god

I quit on the first boss. I didnt even have a weapon and barely did damage to him. tried for 2 hours, gave up and never went back. bullshit game.

>>284028204
We're dealing with somebody who said they have never been more overwhelmed in their life. A little tiny bit of hand-holding for somebody who wants to play the game doesn't affect YOUR single-player experience at all. Go play it yourself if you care so fucking much.

>>284028228
>drake sword baby cries again

>>284026705
Take a break and come back to it, anon. That's the best advice I can give. Finish at least once and then feel free to look up shit and realise how bad your build was.

>>284027578
>that ugly faggot twisting the bridge I'm walking on
Yeah, sure is fair. No character in the game even is animated in some way and they're all shady "kekeke, it's dangerous" faggots... but of course I should have been able to see this coming without signs left by others.

What makes the game so shit in my eyes, though, is the pseudo non-linearity. Kinda like Metroid Prime but worse. There almost always is a right way and a wrong way, if you walk the wrong way you'll just end up facing enemies that have a higher "level"than you or, well, a dead end. There is no point in playing the game non-linearly, so why even designing it this way?

>>284028017
>monstercunter babby shitting on soul games
Topkek

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>you'll never play DaS for the first time again

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>>284028292
Saying that the physics in this games are retarded is bait now just because your "I suck at every PvP game in existence but at least this From Software kusoge makes me feel hardcore" shit gets criticized?

What is this 2008 animu reaction gif?

What happened to /v/?

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>>284028425
It's okay, anon.

>>284028317
Well in my opinion saying "Yo you can press this button to get more information on the game mechanics" is a tidy bit of hand holding. Saying "yo if you're struggling go to this website to learn every secret the game has, it's the way it's meant to be played!"isn't.

>>284028337
hahahahahahaha. not even close. I don't even know why I'm here.. I'm gonna go play Dark Souls. (Great Scythe +15 by the way)

>>284027941
I honestly meant end but typed dex, it's actually a bit less stupid to level 40 dex than end on your first run, maybe I was subconsciously giving you too much credit.
My advice is you play as you like, the -/-/-/- letters in the weapon screen mean scaling with stats, you should figure out how to kindle and you should never listen to morons who read a guide and are now trying to make you do the same cookie cuttter playthrough they did for some inexplicable reason.

>>284028350
Not him but what's so funny about a fan of a superior franchise talking bad about another franchise? Enjoying both but I don't get your analogy.

>>284028273
Never, ever level up RES. VIT and END are ok to put random points into if you aren't working towards a weapon.
Weapon scaling works like this: some weapons have a letter next to stat requirements, for example the claymore has a "C" in both DEX and STR, meaning it gets a good chunk of damage added to the base from both your DEX and STR.
Just bumble through the game and don't worry about much.
The game autosaves every time you kill something or sit down.

>>284027861
It is a crutch because it allows you to 1-hit shit early on, thus not getting better at the game - once it starts to become useless you'll get your shit pushed right in

>>284028425

>you'll never play DeS for the first time again
>you'll never anticipate DaS's release ever again
>you'll never experience DaS's amazing launch day ever again

it hurts

>>284028348
Because there is a point and you can do some very interesting things and find new ways around if you're not chicken shit.

>>284028508
I never told them to go to the wiki. I dumped a bunch of stuff i thought would be helpful, and if they wanna look up what it is or not, that's up to them.

>>284028530
This is the dark souls fanbase.

>>284028475
>4chan
>not fucking made for anime and manga
Are you fucking retarded? Thinking Grindfest 4 ultimate is good, but shitting on dark souls?

>>284028664
But the same people this faggot was arguing with are the Dark Souls fanbase too.

>>284028425
Why would you want all that cheap trial and error, the faggot who twists the bridge, that lava monster that shoots its fire shit through mountains, the Anor Londo archers shooting you off the roofs with unlogical physics, attacks that you can't block for some reason, some magic orbs that you can't block and so much more to come back? The game is terrible in the first playthrough. Only the second playthrough where said trial and error is toned down is slightly fun.

Is it just me or is Dark Souls 2 significantly easier than 1?

I am playing 2 at the same time as 1 and I can really feel the difference.

Except for 2's caster enemies. Fuck those guys.

>>284028228
then why are you forcing a neat little secret weapon you didn't even find at first, on a first time player, what's your malfunction?
tell him how to klin-skip too, we wouldn't want any exploring or actual playing to happpen

>>284028715
>this bad at vidjagams

>>284028664
Please don't lump us in with that retard.

>>284028017
Anor Londo archers have the worst fucking AI and a jogging pace allows their arrows to miss you. How are people this bad still?

Honestly, the biggest reason not to use the drake sword as a new player is that it has no scaling and is a bitch to upgrade compared to regular weapons. You think a new player is going to put souls into str or dex when they're weilding the drake sword and won't see a damage increase when they increase a stat? No, they're going to put it into vitality or something, and then later on when their drake sword is shit, they won't know what to replace it with because they haven't learned the upgrading system and don't have the str or dex to pick up something useful.

Truth be told though, there are way more reasons than that to not use it.

OP best advice is seriously don't take any one's advice. Either you figure shit out that works for you or you give up and go hollow.

>>284028715
>>284028475
>>284028017
why don't you just get a trip you samefag

>>284028729
The first Souls game you play will always be the hardest.

>>284026992
>40 end
holy shit, were you like sl100 when you finished, terrible advice

>>284028715
>Implying dying in a game is a bad thing
Especially in a game that gives you infinite lives and NO downside to being undead outside of you can't summon help for shit. At least Demon's punished you by taking half your health, and DaS2 did the retarded thing of taking bits of you health after each death, and apparently you can die several times and still get your souls back from the first time.

>>284028928
>give up and go hollow.
What's the deal with hollow/humanity?

Is it worthwhile becoming more human?

The game's difficulty comes from its tedium.

>>284029018
I always saw being human as doubling your health rather than halving it, since I was in Soul Form for the majority of the game.

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>>284028348
>never used the master key

>>284029145
True, and having PW world and character tendency allows you more health in Soul Form without the Cling Ring, but it at least punished you for dying and not being in body form.

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>>284026705

Feels good, right?

When's the last time anyone or anything trusted you as much as this game? Now go. Go enjoy it. Check the wikis if you get too confused or lost, but I advise you try to stay as in the dark as much as possible. What fun is exploring when you already know what's there?

>>284029062
if you're human, you can summon players and npcs, but you can also get invaded by them
just having soft humanity in that upper left circle gives you better resistance and item drop, but it's not really worth spending maneetes for that since you'll probably lose them

>>284028348
>DaS
>Linear
Maybe on your first playthrough without knowing how to face certain enemies. I hate DaS2 for it's horrid world design where things to unlock other parts of the area you're in are on the other side of the fucking map and warping just makes the whole finding a bonfire thing pointless because that's all you do is run from bonfire to bonfire like a goddamn wuss because it's more productive to exploring every inch you can find.

>>284029062
Being human allows you to summon and be summoned by other players.
It also opens you to being invaded.
If you don't want the experience of PvP and Co-op, then you should play offline. Be a man and try to take on bosses by yourself, but if you really feel like you're up Shit Creek, don't be afraid to get a little help.
Unless you're going against Drake and Josh. If you summon for Ren and Stimpy on your first play-though, you're a bitch.

OP going to the internet on your first run is a terrible fucking thing to do. Ask specific questions but don't have it all.spoiled for you. Come on man you're seruously going to ruin a lot of the experience wikiing shit and googling YouTubes. Half these guys on here did that and act like they did something special for it.

>>284028273
the guy who told you not to use the master key was correct, please don't listen to these idiots

>>284029264
Okay, doesn't sound worth it. I don't see why I would want other cunts invading me.

Also, if I die, is it worthwhile going back to where I died and collecting that green cloud shit I left behind?

I never got the hype, the game has great design and atmosphere, but punishing new players for playing online (by getting invaded) when you just want to read what people left behind... Seems like bullshit.

But since I'm a whore for ARPGs I'll pick it up again one day, probably.

>>284026992
You really spoon feeding him?
Also good luck farming the Balder Side Sword.
Keeping the shield up all the time is a shit advise, since the staminaregeneration is slowed that way.
Now just tell him to get analbeads and be a flipping faggot that just flips through the world analbeading everything for maximum easy mode

>>284029360
nah, playing offline is a terrible decision, just don't run around as human if you're afraid of invaders instead

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>>284028273
That's a quality OP.

>>284029526
I only suggest going offline because it allows players to summon npcs and fight npc invaders without having to worry about player invaders.

>>284029453

Yes.

When you die, you lose all your souls and humanity (that number in the corner). However, if you can get back to the place you died and get your green cloud, you get your souls and humanity back. You should almost always try to collect that stuff again after you die. It pretty much negates the entire penalty for death.

>>284029453
green cloud shit is the souls/humanity you lost when dying, you have one chance to get it back
pvp is pretty fun and there's no real penalty for losing other than death and having to go human again

>>284026705
Then you are incredibly new to video games. Also go to the left corner of the bridge across from the stairwell to be safe from the drake's breath.

>>284026705
Just play the game and figure shit out for yourself. Best way to have fun

Alright, I'm going to go play again.

Thanks for your help xoxox

>>284029526
Nigga I played offline for DeS and DaS1 and they were some of the best vidya of my life.

>>284029468

You don't have to be human to read the soapstone messages...

>>284029526
babby who could only beat o&s with phantoms detected

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>>284027762
this a million times

for fuck sake OP get off /v/ now. the best part about this series is figured it all out and the satisfaction of triumph.

Wiki'ing a bunch of shit? really /v/? you might as well just erase your memories of the game entirely, cause it's not even gonna be enjoyed enough to be remembered in two years.

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I still love how areas connect in Dark Souls, how you feel like you're going down a really long path but then the game surprises you with a shortcut back to previous areas.
>mfw finding myself back at firelink after taking the undead parish elevator

Online is literally for multiplayer only. Don't want to play with others - offline. Period. Although you get the most souls from PvP - which IMO is fucking stupid. Multiplayer is fine, soap is fine, invading is fine but the souls gained from PvP is astronomical and honestly outrageous compared to solo.

>>284029759
And they'd be even better if you played online, believe me. Hearing the bells ring in other people's worlds, seeing their ghosts and messages, finding a vagrant or two, it gives it even more atmosphere and wonder.

>>284027762
Seriously, just going through these games blind is an experience in itself. I didn't even know about Ash Lake or even Darkmoon Blade on my first playthrough.