What a disappointing fight.

What a disappointing game.

>>283415930
>>283415930
>>283415930

What a disappointing thread.

What a disappointing site.

An appropriately disappointing final boss to a disappointing game.

>>283415930
/thread

>>283415814
might sound autistic, but is she the queen you speak to in Drangleic Castle?

I don't even get Nashandra on a design standpoint. She looks like Nito but has no relation to him at all. And yet some giant two headed spider might be the reincarnation of Seath?

>>283416583
Yea

what a shame

>>283416583

Qui.

>>283416583
Yeah, that's her true form. She's a piece of Manus or something. All of the queens are shards of Manus reborn, which is kind of stupid because Manus wasn't really evil, just pissed the fuck off due to Oolacile magic.

Like, we killed the shit out of Gwyn and Nito and Seath, why aren't we having to deal with a bunch of their stupid ass shards?

>>283415930

I still played through it 3 or 4 times

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>>283416595
I don't either. Looks like a female Nito but is instead a fragment of Manus' soul.

>>283416835
Good for you.

>>283417198
Everything corrupted by Manus or The Dark in Dark Souls 1 had a pretty consistent design to it. That kind of smooth, coal-colored wood-like growth, like Manus, the 'crystals' in the abyss, bloatheads, and the 4 Kings had. The only thing in DaS1 remotely linked to Manus that looks like Nashandra are the Mass of Souls enemies.

>>283416595

I think it's less that they are the incarnation and more that they consumed the great souls. Aside from The Rotten, which is still a stretch, none of the lord bosses seem to have any connection to the great souls they hold.

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Interesting tidbit: she's the only boss in the series that comes through after you. Essentially, you are HER final boss.

>>283418250
Only if you get the Giant's Kinship before beating the Throne Twins.

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>>283418250
I just realised that I am the final boss of every enemy I've killed in a game

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>>283418667
Oh god

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>>283415814
i wanna fug that skeleton

>>283415814
it's a reward for all the hardships

>>283417943
The Lost Sinner's sin was trying to restart the First Flame though. Makes sense that she has the Witch's flame.

Still, the whole "Lord Gwyn's soul was ass-deep in lava" makes no sense to me. I'm not the biggest fan of Vaati but his video on the whole Old Iron King/Iccerous Earth mistranslation thing makes some sense.

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>>283418883
>Implying Nito won't come back to death and tap that

>>283419002
Why that's even a sin is beyond me.

>>283416235
>Demons Souls
>1-on-1 with old king allant who pulls crazy super saiyan bullshit out of his ass

>Dark Souls
>1-on-1 with gwyn where he never ever lets the fuck up and keeps wailing on you like a cheap whore

>Dark Souls 2
>ganked by Nashandra after fighting a 2-on-1 with Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum, a reskin of priscilla minus the invisibility and challenge

Holy shit fuck this game with a rake. How do you fuck up so much with such a simple formula?

>>283419786
It is to those who want darkness. Those who want darkness rule the world that the game takes place in. Hence why its known as a sin and he(she) was imprisoned.

>get all the cheevos in 2 so i can feel like i finished it
>want to go back to 1 because it's the better game
holy fuck i'm so used to 2 that 1 is almost unplayable

>>283420250
So the flame has gone out then. So why has nothing really changed? The flame doesn't really seem to do anything.

>>283415814
Nashandra is pretty fucking intense when you fight her directly after the throne watcher/defender fight. But yeah most people don't do them consecutively.

>>283420339
I know, it's hard readjusting to the fact that you can dodge attacks without dumping points into an otherwise worthless stat, or fighting enemy encounters that don't rely on raw numbers for difficulty, or having to carry around three copies of the same weapon in case you accidentally hit a corpse.

>>283420652
the controls alone feel so different, rolling feels odd, and the ui seems gigantic
i'll just have to get used to it again i guess

>>283420652
Not him, but I totally forgot about weapon durability in DaS so I kept forgetting to repair my shit until my sword was putting out shitty damage.

So is ds3 the end of the dark souls era? Will we have to live with what was given in ds2 regarding back story? Will bloodbourne fit anywhere into the previous souls series?

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Shame you don't fight her in her human form with only her scythe and magical attacks hinting at her origin. Thought that would have made it more interesting as opposed to just shoving it into your face that she was big and bad.

>>283420139
Final boss is a cripple in Demon Souls...

>>283421119
Ds2*

>>283421119
Bloodborne is either a new continuity or is set in the future of the setting of Demon's Souls. Only evidence for that is a character saying Umbasa.

>>283421119
Bloodbourne's a Demons souls sequel, isn't it?

Considering what's been mentioned doesn't allude to the First Flame, but the Old One.

>>283416785
but we did. The Rotten, Duke's Dear Freja, Iron King, Lost Sinner

>>283421353
that is my belief. Umbasa

>>283421151
That would have been yet another humanoid fight though.

>>283421485
But those were just reincarnations or the soul being passed down or whatever. I mean, why didn't we fight like seven descendants of Gwyn or whatever?

Also I don't get why Seath came back. Dragons didn't have souls.

Will Bloodborne have its own version of Patches?

I guess it'll have a Moonlight Great Scythe.

>>283415814
So this pretty much proved that all of Dark Souls II took place in the painted world right?

>>283421202
And is still a better fight than Dark Souls 2.

>>283422816
what? demon's souls final boss is worse than a KF enemy. leave your nostalgia behind grandpa

>>283422675
I like that theory.

>>283422263
She's already humanoid enough in her Abyssal form.

If anything, her in her human form would have gone against everything else in DaS2 being decayed, old, weathered, and/or rather monstrous.

>>283421202
>>283423043
Demon's Souls final boss was False King.
Saying King Allant was the final boss is like saying the bridge from the castle to Nashandra is the final level of DaSII.

It was here just to serve presentation.

>>283423043
it's a great fight because muh lore, okay?!

>>283422389
Will it have another Yurt/Lautrec/I forgot the name of that guy in DS2?
Cant wait to see if the NPCs archetypes in the Souls series will be there too.

>>283422263
>Dragons didn't have souls

Gwyn bequeathed a lord soul to Seath for helping slay the dragons.

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>>283423043
>tfw From still hasn't made a better boss fight than that dark mage in KF4 who summoned bows with arrows, lifted parts of the floor and tried to kill you with spikes from the walls

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>>283423828
>mfw there'll never be another KF with revamped combat and actual combat

it's one hell of a fucking series, did it really have to end?

>>283423340
Except you can technically kill the False King as the seventh of sixteen bosses. But yeah he is quite obviously intended to be the final gameplay challenge.

>>283424131
KF may have a very basic melee combat but it had a god-tier magic and even weapon magic. Only DS2 is somehow close to it in that department.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6_MRCxbGDQ

Is it the best boss battle in the game?

>>283424521
I'd personally say that Alonne and Fume are tied, but yeah.

>>283424521
Sinh, Skeleton Lords and Aldia has pretty good ones too.

>>283424521
>Yet even more bosses that are just dudes in armor

What fucking disappointing DLC.

>>283424765
kill yourself

>>283424521
>roll behind
>stab stab
>roll behind
>stab stab

Every single Dark Souls 2 boss. Not that it doesn't also apply to many Dark Souls bosses but not nearly to the same degree.

>>283424838
well there was that dragon but.. yeah it wasn't really anything too original or exotic, I was expecting more especially with the snow setting

>>283424765
Why would you say those? Skeleton lords were a joke and the guardian dragon was like a moonlight butterfly but 3x as annoying for melee characters.

Then again the game in general is mediocre so you'd just be picking the least mediocre boss instead of an even slightly decent one.

>>283425321
honestly eleum loyce wasn't so bad, but they could replace lmao 2cats with some other boss, like a giant fucking snow demon that rises from the abyss you see in the outskirts.

I will admit that Dark Souls 2 has some pretty underwhelming bosses, but I definitely feel the level design of it is a lot better than Demon's Souls and Dark Souls. I just love all the secrets hidden all over the place in DS2, especially in the DLC. There are secrets everywhere. It's so fun exploring levels in DS2.

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>bosses with melee attacks that lock on to you
>bosses with a ton of enemies
>bosses with "shockwaves"
>areas padded with way more enemies that there needs to be
>the whole idea of agility

man DaSII was pretty lame

>>283420139
>gwyn where he never ever lets the fuck up and keeps wailing on you like a cheap whore
i guess i beat him like one then because 1-2 parries and that bitch was out

>>283424521
best boss fight music that's for sure.

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>>283415930

I used to think that but after playing it again after like 4 or 5 months because it felt subpar it really fucking grew on me. I used to think it has shit characters and no atmosphere compared to DaS, but
>Vengarl, Gavlan, Straid and Emerald Herald are all memorable, even Lucatiel is pretty cool
>stairs to Drangleic Castle and Dragon Aerie are better than any DeS/DaS location

I dunno I guess I just went into this game expecting to be absolutely blown the fuck out and got severly dissapointed when I wasn't, but I really like it now. I'd go as far to say I prefer it over DaS now.

>>283426101
The DLC had some solid level design. Outside the of the DLC though the level design was mostly linear and uninspired without the maze like detail of many Demon's and Dark Souls area.

Lost Bastille was probably the only good non DLC level design in all of Dark Souls 2.

>>283426697

I think the best boss music in a Souls game award goes to Ornstein & Smough

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsps0I58yUM

>>283426779

oh and I forgot to mention chariot is probably my favorite boss fight from all 3 games right now

While Nashadra is bland in her own, I just finished a run through SotfS and that was a very satisfying fight. A three stage boss fight where each is unique enough to keep it interesting. It was also a nice break from the OHK fights for the last four bosses.

DaSII still isn't as good as DaSI, even compared to DaSI's release. However it's finally reached the point where it's actually consistently fun to play

>>283426101

The DLC is definitely better than the main game in terms of level design, but theres no way I'd put it above DeS and DaS