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>SR1
>Julius creates the saints to stop the gang wars that have been killing innocent people and saves the Main Character and they fight the other gangs with hopes of bringing peace to the streets

>SR2
>none of the saints give a shit about peace and simply just want to recover what they believe to be theirs and show everyone who is the boss
>the MC is pretty much a sociopath at this point

What the fuck happened?
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Volition realised serious isn't entertaining, so they went with wacky.
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The Boss was always a sociopath. The only difference is they weren't a sociopath in charge. Then they got blown up by Julius so they kind of pissed them off.
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It's a long game story. How do you want to explain it?

Maybe it's about how violence doesn't solve much? Julius' attempt to use violence to solve violence backfires?

Maybe it's about how power corrupts? The saints turn into that they fought against?

I don't know man, just fucking take a look at it. Do some thinking.
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>>280625794
They realised trying to compete with GTA by making a GTA clone is stupid.
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>>280625794
You forgot
>SR3
>No more gang wars, the saints are now a product
>Stillwater is freed

>SR4
>No more gang wars, ever

It was all part of his master plan
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>>280626316
this was my gut feeling
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uagmsJ8xKtE#t=1m12s
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>>280626432
Saints Row 3 was a complete change of everything.
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>>280626432
JULIUS WAS ZINYAK ALL ALONG!
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It's kind of funny. Rockstar decided to give GTA a bit more of a serious edge right around the same time Volition decided SR shouldn't take itself so seriously.

>>280626483
Julius and that one bartender were the only ones I felt bad about killing.
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>all these saints row threads lately

glorious
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>>280630805
Game just got released.
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>>280625794
You really don't think Julius trying to kill all the Saints had anything to do with it? The MC was always a psycho considering he went around butchering the other gangs of Stilwater on behalf of Julius, even if it was to stop the violence. Julius realized this about the MC and Gat which is why he tries to end the Saints but all it did was create a city wide power vacuum.

In SR2 you and Gat return to the exact same place you were at the beginning of SR1, surrounded by a hostile city full of warring gangs. Do you really expect the MC to just sit around and do nothing? Not to mention the news report that he/she breaks out and Johnny escaping trial, it was basically guaranteed that someone would come for you guys sooner or later.

If anything SR3 shows what exactly the MC thought of Julius' plan. He basically turned Stilwater into a peaceful city by controlling the streets exactly like Vogel and Julius wanted to do. The only difference was that the MC liked to pull violent publicity stunts to remind people that he was there. At least until he decided to rob the wrong fucking bank...
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>>280633110

And then he became the President.

GG
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>>280633263
Well I mean that's kinda my point. Despite the fact that the series turned into a hamfest for he sake of gaining free press and differentiating itself from GTA, I still feel like the Boss has always been a consistent character in the sense that he has delusions of grandeur wrapped around psychopathic tendencies, and yet his goal is basically always to bring a state of balance through force.

He basically points guns at things until they stop being problems and refuse to start being problems.

Honestly though, I'm really hoping that the next SR is a complete reboot of the series with a new group of Saints and a theme more in line with SR1 or 2.
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>>280633263
And then he became Iron-Man.

ggnore
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>mfw downloading IV Re-lected/gat out of hell on PS4
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>>280626316
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>>280634983
Make sure to recruit Anthony Burch
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>>280634983
L-Limmy?
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>>280636313
yes?
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>gang culture involves glorifying your group as heroes as a cover for doing bad things
No shit
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>>280636978
gat outta here Limmy!
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>>280637962
cannae do that
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>>280625794
Brain trauma altered his personality.

Although he was already a sociopath considering his actions in SR.
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>>280638547
It broke him basicly.
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>Oleg isn't in Gat out of Hell because he is in heaven
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>>280625794
SR1 will never ever come to PC :(
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>>280640446
Or any other platform

It will rot being xbox exclusive.
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>>280634983
>>280636978
>>280638245
Go to bed Limmy.
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>>280626483
i didn't wanna kill julius that really pissed me off
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>>280625794
>What the fuck happened?

The Boss was banging to be an asshole, not to bring peace.
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>>280625794
This is covered in SR2, there's a hidden mission with Julius in it, not too hard to find once you know how to access it
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>>280629227
>Julius and that one bartender were the only ones I felt bad about killing.

She just wanted some dick/pussy and died for it.

>>280640757
"X did nothing wrong" gets parroted a lot around here, but I honestly think that Julius did nothing wrong.

Like even if I had to be an asshole gang leader, I still didn't want to drop my nigga Jules.
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Time for opinions

After marathoning SR2, 3 and 4 again recently:

Mechanically SR3 is a straight up improvement over 2

The only real downsides of SR3 in comparison to 2 is that the writing is extremely inconsistent in tone and comes off as lolsorandom, and that taking over the city as part of the main storyline in 2 feels better

SR4 despite being wacky, is highly consistent in how it tells its story once you're in the virtual world. The only reason I don't think it's as good as 2 is because the decision to throw in super powers undermines other aspects of the game like using vehicles, and certain missions blatantly remove your powers because of this.
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>>280643028
My collection of cars in SR4 is for looking at, not for driving.

Which is a shame because that Chrome Rattler looks fucking awesome.If anything, I'm hoping for a reboot so we can go back to using cars.
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>>280633849

Yeah, but a NEW engine.
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How often does SR2 go on sale on Steam?

And much does GotR boost the performance? I want to play this shit at 1440p/60fps
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>>280642854

Woah, source of webm? Any more?
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>tfw no remakes of SR1 and 2 in the Sr3 engine
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>>280640312
>Out of the new SR3 Saints only Kinzie was left alive
>Not Oleg
Oleg was the best of them though. Makes me sad.
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>>280643387
GotR sometimes makes the game run flawlessly for people, other times you have to do other tweaks (probably because you get a bug that makes the game run too fast,) and sometimes you just get random crashes (my recent reinstallation had the game crashing 10% of the time anyone opened a car door.)

SR2's shitty port is really inconsistent regardless of how you try to fix it.
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>>280640312
>>280643504
>The only reason why Oleg wasn't in 4 was because they couldn't be assed to add superpowers to the brute archetype AI
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>>280643448
https://kickass.so/usearch/%5Bcosplay%20erotica%5D/

We've been beating off to these vids since last night. There are a few sets/videos here.
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>>280626432
>Saints Row 3
>Saints become sellouts
>Volition sells out

It's like poetry.
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>>280643469
I'd love this personally. SR3 and 4 play great. Guns feel incredibly responsive, driving works incredibly well on keyboard compared to other GTA likes where I have to use a controller.
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>>280643469

Yeah, after seeing the character model detail in 3 and 4, I'd rather not have them remade.

2's was better, much better...
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>>280644178
It's not like Volition didn't know. They wrote Johnny's dialogue in the beginning of the game.

Though SR3 got nailed with a ton of changes which just make everything "what" about the story.
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>>280625794
Julius betrayed the saints
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Who else here hopes that the canon ending of GooH is the retcon everything ending
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>>280644891
It is. Gat or Kinzie gets a wish by god for fucking up hell, the wish is for everything to get back to normal.
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>>280644891

Obviously it will be. The only logical step, that and it had the most work put into it as far as animation goes. There was so much to think of from that ending.

The others? Gat meets Aisha and forgets about everyone else... in heaven.

Gat rules hell, or Gat and the gang go to a different planet.

Gotta tell ya, if GOOH is the last we see of the characters for the eventual reboot - it's a shitty climax.
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>>280644891
If that's all they're offering, then sure. I was hoping that 3 would have been the Saints fucking up their control of Ultor, ending up ruining Stilwater even worse then before. Not progressively turning into fucking Crackdown.
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>>280643896

MOAR.

God damn... my g- god damn...

Went to kickass.so and got a warning telling me it is dangerous. Upload webms here!
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>>280644891
I'm pretty sure it is considering after SRIV Volition said something to the effect of "this is the end of this Boss's story." GooH had you playing as Gat and Kinzie so it jives with this.

What I'm hoping for is that the Saints are now the police force or some kind of task force/anti-gang unit, so you'll still be running the city.

And instead of Boss, you'll be Chief.
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>>280645310
With all the references to the previous games, SR4 was a much better grand finale to the series.

If GOOH had been a part of that, with the new flight added to the base gameplay of SR4, and saving Johnny Gat involving him breaking out of hell, I think that both would be better off for it.
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>>280645493
Weird that you got a warning. Kickass has always been fine for me.
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>>280644891
Either this or they will go for the new home ending and Saints Row 5 takes place in Alium City with you taking over districts from aliums till humans are the new overlords of the planet.

But after that there might be nothing at all so i guess the best thing they can do is a complete retcon of everything.
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>>280625794

The Saints from Saints Row 1 are either dead, in Jail or have sold out by Saints Row 2. Dex sold out to Ultor, Lynn died, Gat changed after Aisha's death, Troy was a cop, and Julius disappeared. The Boss was always a psychopath. He just never had the opportunity to show it because he didn't have power. Now that he experienced it in Saints Row 2 he realizes having power, bitches, respect, cars, and being fear is a pretty sweet deal. I think it's a better storyline that the boss in Saints Row is the ultimate bad guy not the other gangsters
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>>280646267

Yeah... sigh. MOAR! I didn't see this thread yesterday...
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>>280646402
The Saints empire becomes so large that they realize lovecraftian eldritch gods actually exist and they go take the fight to them.
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>>280642854
>>280643896
>>280646267
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>>280646475
This. Sadly though in SR3 he was more zany than psychopathic, and in SR4 he was Gat and Kinzie's bottom bitch.
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>>280646741

That's it. The rest is on kickass.
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>>280633263
>And then he became the President.
you act like a gangster has never become president in real life
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>>280640312
bullshit, once you get 100% takeover over all hell districts there is a mission, it gives you a story book of all the old villains coming back to take over hell and shows that johnny and co took them down, at the end of the story book is a picture of Oleg with johnny kinzie dane, johh on a lifeguard seat the viola and kiki, and fucking Lin playing volleyball, He's in hell and so is Lin
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They fucking blew it in SR3-4 when we didn't get the bodyguard saints back or even have Ultor homies
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>>280647532
Anon, did you just see a screenshot or do you utterly lack the capacity to listen to dialogue?
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>>280647532

Proof or get the fuck out.
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>>280647719
i listened, doesn't say he was in heaven
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>>280647808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqGO_xQfDQ#t=147
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>no more clothes layering
>no more mission replay
>no more interactive buildings other than stores
>can't customize boats and other special vehicles
>no more make-shift weapons
>no more entertaining activities like FUZZ

>all of it replaced with a new engine that looks outdated by now
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>>280647808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOIZHX2CF7M&feature=player_detailpage&x-yt-cl=84503534&x-yt-ts=1421914688
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>>280647852
And you assume he was in hell despite him not having any role in the game outside of that one picture?
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>>280648195
how would he be playing volleyball, the only change gat gets to go to heaven is when you pick the choice to see aisha
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>>280648195
oh shit, it said conference between heaven and hell my bad
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Lin and Oleg are possibly in heaven. That's awesome.
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>>280648026

I'd be fucking furious if they use the same engine in the eventual reboot...
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>>280648026
Gat out of Hell has mission replay as far as i heard.
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Julius was the only one who believed in that.

The protagonist was always a sociopath, Troy was a cop, Dex was a backstabber who just wanted to get out of the game, and Gat was more or less a sociopath just like the Protagonist
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Ha fun with SR2 and having a blast with SR4.

Is SR3 worth it? I remember people were complaining about it a lot.
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>>280649135
Literally the only issue with the new engine is the clothes. Everything else is smooth as butter. SR3/4 are probably the best controlling open world crime games.

>>280649279
>Is SR3 worth it?
I like it. It's a bit of a step down from 2 in areas, and a step up in others. If you grab it on sale, you probably won't be mad.
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>>280649223
it doesn't, and if it does i haven't seen it
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>>280649279
Saints Row 3 has the problem that it doesn't know what it wants to be at all.

And if it tries something it only does a mediocre job.

>Drama style ''death'' of Gat
>Belgium waffle getting presented as big main villian but ends up being tutorial food
>Killbane being shit

>Humor is fart in a jar tier
>Zombies are now actually a thing and not a videogame like in SR2 because reasons
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>>280649381

The clothes, the blurred textures, the silly putty hair and the clothes looking puffy.

Not to forget the body mass is overdone. I want to be skinny and anorexic, like my SR2 character - but I don't have the choice in the other games because the body types are ALWAYS muscular.
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FYI SR1 and 2 had zombies as easter eggs.

Though now they probably aren't easter eggs.
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>>280649536

I thought the villain (not lolrandom wrestler) had potential. An evolution. a James Bond type villain that could have taken on a gangster type gang like the Saints.
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>>280649752
Whilst I'll agree that we can do better with having more choices, I'm having too much fun playing Senator turned President Armstrong in SR4.
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Dammit, I love SR2 and I'd like another Saints like it... but I don't know how they'd do it without retelling the usual gang warfare tale again.

Also, I want Mr. Sheffield to voice my cockney arsehole again.
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>>280649928
There was potential but they didn't use it.

At best he was Sons of Samedi level tier.

>Waffle dies
>Killbane: ''I am king now''
>''Look at me how i snap this twin girls neck - This shows i am evil and that you need to stop me''
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>>280640746
i am in bed, mate.
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>>280650185
Apparently the twins were both supposed to join the saints.

That would have been cool, because the they were 2cute together in GooH
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The Saints going the Ultor way isn't actually that bad of an idea.

The problem was how Saints Row 3 handled it.

Let Gat not die or just end in coma for a while and give the game decent villian development at it could have been something.

Also: Dex and the boss staying a true sociopath and not turning into a Warner Bros cartoon character.
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>>280649790
>The idea of a zombie woman dressed as a westside roller is absurd
It was the little things about SR2.
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I liked the cutscenes in SR2.

I also like how if you stood infront of a car's lights you actually cast a shadow. None of the GTA's do that.

The melee in SR2 is great as well. The wrestling moves get repetitive in SR3. I haven't played 4. Can you smoke weed in SR4?
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>>280650638
Yeah SR3 went too many places and had no real idea what it wanted to do.
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Do you think they will jew Gat out of Hell out with DLC like they did with SR3 and 4?
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>>280650638
One reason why people like SR2 so much is how the game handled the gangwars.

Maero was a decent villian and at parts you could actually relate to him.
Same with Shogo and how he tried to impress his father and failed over and over again.
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>>280652142
I enjoyed it but I hope not. The base game is feels like DLC on its own. Which I guess it is.
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>>280652338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Do-VyOFkjo
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>>280652338
>and at parts you could actually relate to him
Well all I can say to that is if someone gave me a nuclear tattoo I'd be out to kill them too.
I did love their trucks though, great battlewagons.
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>>280652338
>That back and forth between the Brotherhood and the Saints
>And it all started over a silly argument

>>280652845
The Alaskan was their only good gang car.
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>>280652467
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>>280652998
Say what you want but the Compensator was a great choice for those missions when you're constantly under fire as long as you're someone who has the presence of mind to ease off the gas before a turn.
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>>280643028
SR3 killed half the minigames
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>>280653749
Half the minigames in 2 were shit anyway.

Crowd Control was lame, heli assault was lame, trafficking was lame, septic avenger was lame, snatch was lame.

Luckily you can get enough respect through mayhem, escort, fight club, demolition derby, chop shop, and hitman missions.
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>>280654074
>T-they were shit anyway!
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>>280654074
>snatch was lame.

I'm bet you like that SR3-4 removed the Pimp gang
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>>280654543
They were.

>>280654575
Nah I liked fighting those dudes. Needed someone to gang up on me post-game since there are no more bangers at that point.
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Post your favorite cars.
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>>280654730
Pimps got nerfed in 2
In the first game it's entirely possible for a gang of Pimps to run up with Aks and shoot everyone during missions.

That and those sharks I never pay off.
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>>280655080
>That and those sharks I never pay off.
>SR1 lets you get into debt for absolutely no reason at all

It's the little things. A lot easier to do so than in SA.
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>>280626113
Hopefully you're not this retarded
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>>280649536
>Zombies are now actually a thing and not a videogame like in SR2 because reasons
Zombies had been a thing since SR1, did you not revive Lin or Carlos?
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>>280654945
Raycaster will always be the best
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>>280625794
the ending to S1 showed that there was a kike politician manipulating them the whole time. S2-4 were just them taking revenge
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>>280655876
but they had nothing to do with the plot and was pretty much there just so you can play with them.
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There was a thread last night about this, and someone suggested that the next game be about the Saints ruling history because they have the time machine.

>Sailing the seas with Blackbeard
>Fighting alongside the Knights of the Round Table
>Something about Egypt and the pyramids

I'd play that game.
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>>280654945
That FBI one, the Interceptor I think it was called.

>fast
>can take a hit from a rocket
>looks good
>handling it is almost possible at high speeds
>can carry 4 homies
>did I mention that it's built like a goddamn tank

I kinda hate 3 for removing it but then again I barely used anything but the VTOL (thanks fuck for that one DLC)
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>>280650273
Did you shag her arse?
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>>280652109
no, but they do bring back the light bulb drug in a mission
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>>280657116
Loa Dust?
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>>280657064
course i did mate
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>>280656431
they could bring blackbeard out of hell, and have him team up with alive blackbeard
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>>280656431
>saints travel back in time to save gat from dying in the plane in SR3
>accidentally cause 9/11
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>>280657945
he's already back alive in 4 so what would be the point in that
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If Volition was to port SR1 to steam or do a remake of SR1, I would be so happy
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>>280644309
Not really, all Saints Row games had fucking ugly character models
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>>280660607

In comparison to 3 and 4, no. The models were framed better and the hair was better too.

In your picture the eyelashes are individual strands, in 3 and 4 they're black blocks.
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>>280661478
I find the models more aesthetically pleasing in 3 and 4 honestly, regardless of the features.
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SR3 code
ZVCBL-RN22K-4NTER
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Saints Row was not a very good game.

Saints row 2 was a very good game.
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>>280625794
Boss was always crazy, then he got power and in charge and gat liked it so....

I would be more mad about the aliens/ matrix/ super powers deal in sr4
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I think this is one of the comfiest places in vidya. It is for me, anyway.
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>>280653050
I was wondering what happened to him
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>>280664285
>"Shit man, look at this giant coat hanger"
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>>280652109
I loved every minigame cutscene.
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>>280664285

Anyone have an image of the SR1 first house you have?
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>>280664285
I'm also fond of the abandoned movie theater. It's nice and spacious, has the right amount of rundown and comfy, and has a few interiors. I kinda wish this was a secondary hideout.
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>>280665743
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>>280626220
>actually calling him The Boss

There's only one m8
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>Volition make GTA but less popular
>/v/ loves it
>Volition makes their own thing
>/v/ hates it

Why?
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>>280666096
>red cash
how?
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>>280666096

That's what am talkin' bout boy. Paradise, mang...
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>>280666352
SR1 has loan sharks.
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>>280666194
>implying you can't make the boss ingame
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Any guides to creating a sexy boss for SR2?
Every time I make one it comes out like shit.
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>>280666476
Oh yeah, I completely forgot about those, I only ever used them just to get the achievement for taking a certain amount of cash out from them
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Sandbox+ is great.
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>>280666773
really great
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>>280625794
Saints Row took over in the silliness department when GTA decided to go dark and edgy

so they said fuck it we going all out CURAZY
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>>280666705
help
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Saints Row 1 was basically GTA with some dumb extra humor thrown in (like GTA)

Saints Row 2 was a weird balance between super dark storyline of playing as a sociopath, with some goofy humor thrown in.

Saints Row 3 took the positive response to the silliness in 2 and went full speed ahead with it.

Saints Row 4 was 3 but with some different stuff in it.

For the record I actually like 4 the best.
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>>280643028
Also the driving in 3 was somehow worse than 2.
How did they fuck it up and why did they replace the handbrake with a drift button?
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>>280668426

1 and 2 had more consistency and better written stories.

3 downgraded from 2 and 4 was better than 3.
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>>280656431
I want them to travel back to SR2 and use that to justify a HD remake of it with non-shit controls.
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>>280661478
3 and 4 are stylized to hide the aging engine. It was a smart move, because 2 was ugly as fuck despite being GOAT in open-world bullshit.
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>SR1
>Everyone calls you "player"
>You are the player
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So is SR4 worth playing at all? I'm someone who thought SR3 was pretty much just a shit game in comparison to the first 2 and never even bothered to finish it since I got bored with it halfway through.
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>>280669295

Doesn't make sense considering how shitty the textures are.

2's style was an improvement over 3. They changed the graphics because they wanted it to look more cartoony for their new direction.
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>>280669572
dont need to explain the joke TVTropes
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>>280669572
Isn't it playa?
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>>280669572
>saints row 4, benjamin bitch ass new voice terry crews motha fucking rip michael clarke duncan king calls yous playa all the time despite never or barely doing it in 1
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>>280669658
Imagine if SR3 and Prototype had a baby.

Honestly, I feel it's just Volition auditioning for superhero games.

>>280669662
>I don't understand what stylized means!
Using that engine they're never going to compete with realistic looking games. The cartooniness was a conscious choice - those "shitty" textures are more aesthetically pleasing to me than SR2's "blurry kinda-realistic but ultimately bad" ones.
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>>280669658

If you buy SR4, you'll feel like the two first games were gems to behold. You'll feel more appreciative of the them. 4 has throwbacks to 2 and 1, which I believe was done to play on the the devisive community. Very manipulative.

Ask 1 and 2 purists how they felt about 3 and 4 and they will say 4 is better than 3.

4 is a nostalgic reminder of how great the 1st and 2nd game were and it hurts. I fucking hate Voliton now.
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>>280669658
it has alot of throwbacks to saints row 1 and 2, plus super powers are really fun, also if you are fond of gat he is back, i can't really give my opinion i like all saints games
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>people didn't like SR4
Seriously?
Why?
It's like they trimmed all the fat and added a fun travel method.
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>>280670071

If you haven't noticed, fuckwit, their art style in general is now more cartoonish. Comic book cartoonish - given the direction of S3 it makes sense, BECAUSE of the new direction.

If you bothered to fucking read, I was saying they did it for that reason - not because they thought it was a graphical improvement that made the models look nicer.

It's the direction.
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>>280670659
Too easy

And also what's the point of cars if you get super speed at like 20 minutes into the game
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>>280671174
>And also what's the point of cars if you get super speed at like 20 minutes into the game
For fun
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Everyone always talks about how great 2 was, but I honestly find it too absurdly grim in it's story.

It's just so dark to the point where it's stupid and it's characters become unlikable.
Despite going full WACKY, 3 had more likable characters too.
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Honestly I'm surprised at just how well GOOH wraps things up. We get at least short references to anyone of significance, and using the excuse of EARTH BLEW UP EVERYONE DIED SO IS IN HEAVEN / HELL was great.

Though the way they finally handled the end of the Dex storyline was shitty.
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>there will never be a Saint's Row space sim where you take over galaxys and use cheesy mexican wrestling moves on weird alien creatures for diplomacy
>you will never be the "Glorious Leader" invading a planet to make a new Earth 2.0

>all because these faggots want a GTA clone again
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Anyone know where i can illegally download the SRIV music? :^)

At least the non-radio music.
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>>280671628
>>280672026

Voliton, pls go.


Two was great because it had more stuff. It had a better written storyline that wasn't rushed. It had character development for characters. It had good satire. It had a better city. It had humour and it was serious enough for coherency. It also had better villains.

Yeah, fuck off. I hate people like you. It's not fucking stupid because SR2 didn't rely on shock humour or a stupid fucking dildo bat for attention.

The third game took more out than it put in for a newer instalment. The graphics were also terrible and the characters looked like shit.
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>>280672470

Since San Andreas was the only game in the series to use urban gangsters - your opinion is void. SA didn't have gang territories and took itself too seriously for type of game it was.

Even SR1 did the gang thing better. If you haven't fucking noticed - Grand Theft Auto went full on fucking Mafia and lost it's colour.
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So. Is Kinzie there to specificly appeal to fans of Felicia Day?
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>>280625794
>What the fuck happened?
SR stopped being an angsty tween and realized that there's no such thing as a peace-desiring protagonist in a game that allows players to go on murdering sprees whenever they want.

Just like GTAIV and it's ass-retarded protagonist who wouldn't shut up about how horrible war is and how he wants to get away from violence in-between sessions of the player gunning down cops and running over hookers to get their money back.

Sandbox crime games need to realize they are inherently retarded. There's no way to give the player complete freedom and then paint their character like some kind of noble antihero.

Volition realized this and took the series in the direction of absurdist dark humor and retardation, and that's why the SR games are the only good crime sandboxes to date other than Vice City.
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>>280673198
>SA didn't have gang territories and took itself too seriously for type of game it was.
confirmed for not playing sa
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>>280673198
GTA has been about mafia shit since the first one. SA was the only one to go the black-culture worship route.
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>>280673198
>SA didn't have gang territories
u wot
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>100% the city in gooh
>new quest
>saints mark on the map
>omg I can play as the boss
>its just a cutscene
t-thanks
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>>280673446
>GTA has been about mafia shit since the first one.
Not quite.

LCS is the only game that has you fully dealing with mafia shit. III just has you as an errand boy for various criminal organizations in the city.
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>>280625794
>8 hours old
>less than 200 posts

just let it die
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>>280672942
>I hate people like you.
chill out dude
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>>280673615
I wasn't talking about various game mechanics, but GTA has always leant towards organized crime and mafia shit instead of gangsta OG busta shit.
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>>280673351

You say that like 3 and 4 are just as good. The humour in those games are juvenile and not in a good way. Plus 1 AND 2 had better satire.
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>>280673675
Rockstar pls go

we are talking about a great video game series
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>>280656250
my nigga
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>>280673198
>SA didn't have gang territories
Have you even played the fucking game?
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>>280673463

Ones that you take over and collect. Colour coded. It also had only one other gang.

Again, SR added more to the genre.
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>>280673870
>but GTA has always leant towards organized crime and mafia shit

No it doesn't.

GTA 1 - Bosses include mobster, triad boss, a literal gay Mexican, a dirty cop, and a rude boy.

GTA 2 - Whacky gangs up the Wazoo.

London - Sure this passes.

3 - Claude does dirty work for literally every gang in the city, as well as a corrupt media mogul. Sure, mobsters are here, but you spend most of your time doing work for others.

VC - I'll give the pass, since Tommy is a former mobster. His new start up isn't much of a mafia, though, just a gang of bandits and drug dealers.

SA - Yeah, yeah, we know.

LCS - This passes, too.

VCS - Focus on a drug dealing empire.

IV - Much like Claude, Niko does errands for any criminal organization willing to pay him.

TLaD - Bikers.

TBoGT: A co-owner of the club does various criminal activities to keep the club and himself alive.

CTW - Triads

V - No criminal organization. Just three dudes stealing shit.
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>>280673529
Ugh, don't remind me. I was really hoping we'd get to play as our Bosses in the post-game, even if it meant having them stuck in generic clothes, but nope. I felt kinda let down, since the devs said you would be able to see your Boss in cutscenes, but then they were only actually in the intro and ending and spent the rest of the game in that wack-ass crystal prison.

>you will never hear Laura Bailey talk shit to Satan
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>>280674618
now will you drop the act?
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>>280674618
just stop
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>>280674629
I'd say V is pretty organized. Especially everything having to do with Micheal and Lester.
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>>280674629
>I disagree with you
>Here's a list showing that every GTA game has organised crime in it

Dumb as.
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>>280674629
>V - No criminal organization. Just three dudes stealing shit.
Did you even play the game? What about the corrupt cops, that's a fucking criminal organization you retard.
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>>280675029
Organized thieves, sure. I'm talking about a criminal organization.

>>280675072
>Here's a list showing that every GTA game has organised crime in it

The point of contention there was the mafia thing. If you're going to stretch "criminal organization" then literally every GTA falls under that umbrella, making the comment about organized crime a moot point.
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>>280674629
>organized crime must mean italian mobsters

Triads, mobsters, organized gangs are all organized crime.
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>>280675228
I'm talking about the focus of the main characters, you mongo.
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>>280626316

There's no point trying to better at being GTA than GTA, Rockstar makes an impressive game.

I like the direction SR2 and SR3 took, I loved SR4 even if it was a repellently lazy production.

If they reboot the series they need to stay stupid, and the PC should never be the boss.
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>>280675375
see

>>280675279
>The point of contention there was the mafia thing. If you're going to stretch "criminal organization" then literally every GTA falls under that umbrella, making the comment about organized crime a moot point.
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>>280675410
>3 criminals hiring people to rob banks
>hacker that gets blueprints rob banks
>Not organized crime
Alright buddy.
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Why do people seem to think 3 and IV are way more fun than 2? 3 was just horrible, I got bored playing through it on co-op for fucks sake and that's pretty hard to do for someone like me. I don't hate IV though, it has its moments and decent co-op, but I still feel that SR2 had better activities and missions. In general I would say 2 > 4 > 1 > dog shit > 3

We can all agree that SR2 had the best co-op though, right?
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>>280675521
>and the PC should never be the boss.
Why not
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>>280675541
>making the comment about organized crime a moot point.
Oh so the only way you can be right is by distorting organized crime being Italian only.
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>try out 2
>find out it has a fat slider
>create fatfus for days
>conquer the land as a 400 lb. sassy black lady with purple hair
>try out 3
>in addition to other things being removed, fat slider at 100% only gives a bit of paunchiness
>can't play as Jabba the Huttette
3 sucks
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Please god, allow the retcon / reboot ending of GOOH to be the canon one. It is the PERFECT get out clause to return things to how they were.
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I can't wrap my head around people that say the controls in SR feel good. They don't. Even GTA with its wacky physics-based movement feels more responsive. Running around in SR games feels ridiculous, and the physics of being sent flying or blown up are appalling. Enemies rarely do anything interesting , most are just people with guns that stand and shoot and run around or "special enemies" that perform four different moves and are absolute bullet sponges. The melee weapons are awful and the guns have no kick to them. The dodging move you can do is awful in every way. The very act of killing feels drawn out, in SR4 the only payoff to defeating a pursuing special enemy is watching a canned animation play that you can take damage in. The protagonist doesn't even react to being shot, although setting them on fire seems to completely debilitate them.
Volition really needs to do SOMETHING with the damn physics of the game to make it either more realistic, or more arcade-y. And fix the stupid plastic hair.
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>>280675698
>Oh so the only way you can be right is by distorting organized crime being Italian only.

Are you even reading my posts

>The point of contention there was the mafia thing.
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>>280674618
There were three other gangs, two were enemies.
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>>280675658

That writes the series into a corner. The PC should be a lieutenant who gets sent to new cities with brutal gang problems to set up new chapters. You'd be sort of the "boss" in that city, but you'd have equals with you, like Shaundi, Gat, and Kinzie. There would be an established boss in Stillwater giving you orders so the plot could always be driven forward. Sort of an off screen character who pays you to put yourself in danger and help you scratch that sociopathic itch.
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>>280676179
You don't really need someone to give you orders. I mean being the boss means a ton of stuff is going to happen that he needs to deal with.

I don't mind being a henchman, I'm just saying.
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People say Gat out of Hell finally resolves the Dex Storyline.

Please tell me it's some sort of epic battle, and Dex is Satans right hand man?
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>>280675521

No, SR3 was a rushed piece of shit. It didn't have as much fun things to do than 2.

Fuck off, SR2 is better miles ahead of 3.
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>>280676389
Nope, you just find him wandering around hell as he is already dead and you can just repeatedly rekill him over and over again, same with some other characters from before in the series
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>>280676389
>Please tell me it's some sort of epic battle, and Dex is Satans right hand man?
lol
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>>280676375
I think having the other Saints as equals would make the group seem a little tighter. Also having the other lieutenants out doing shit in the same city and having to back on another up when Gat tries to get killed.

>>280676417
You just bitter about the lack of a septic truck.
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>>280675776
If SR5 gives us the fat slider from 2 and the melons slider from 3/4 I will die a happy man.

>make chubby titty-monster bossfu in 3+4
>decide to replay 2 as something other than cockney boss
>crank the gender slider up to maximum boobage
>wowitsfuckingnothing.jpg
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>>280676793
>>make chubby titty-monster bossfu in 3+4
post pics
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>>280676389

No, he doesn't even get a unique character model.
It's just the purple fucking hat he wore over a hell spawn carcass.

Not even a voice actor...
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>>280676793

Mods give you all that and more in three and four.
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>>280677059
>Not even a voice actor...
wat

Dex taunts you whenever you come to attack him. And it sounds JUST like the guy who voiced him in SR1.
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Dane Vogel sounded nothing like he did in SR2.

>>280676793
This. The titty slider was the best thing about Sr3.
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>>280677141

What does he say? Is there a video proving this?
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>>280676417
this. SR2 is the best in the series
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>>280677353

I can respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
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>>280677305
You hate me for working for Ultor, look at you!

You bet on the wrong horse Gat!

I wanted to be forgotten, but bitches always bring up the past!

And a few other lines.
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>>280677479
>liking lolsorandumb over a nice balance between wacky and a legit good story
>liking 3/10 minigames over 7/10 minigames
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>>280676764
Not the guy you were responding to, but SR3 just fucking sucks in general. Shitty hair and clothes options, good activities taken out, unmemorable characters except for a few, worse villains, hardcore difficulty is a cakewalk...I could go on, but SR3 definitely has the feel of being a rushed piece of shit.
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>>280677305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbBhIBCjw0
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>>280677548

So nothing good?
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>>280677605

>implying your buzzwords have any power over me.
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I'm glad Sr4 got rid of most of the awful characters introduced in 3. Shame they kept Matt Miller though.
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>>280677548
>I wanted to be forgotten, but bitches always bring up the past!

Implying this isn't Volition taking a stab at everyone whining about the series changing.
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>>280677729

Yeah, and over using the word wacky and over the top doesn't now sound like jibberish.

Riiiight.

His opinion is just better because likes the better game.
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>>280677729
>not realizing buzzword is a buzzword
>not realizing that I just gave an irrefutable tonal criticism, that sr2 has a balance between serious and humor while Sr3 has no idea the meaning of the word balance
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>>280677938
>>280677921


>lolsorandumb

Swallow your rage, children, your buzzwords are stealing your power.
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>>280677098
Sadly, modded bodies break a lot of clothes and the mesh starts to spaz out after a certain size.

It did make for some funny moments, though.
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>>280678145
>continues to hide behind a lack of any refutation of my legitimate point
>is this at a loss at how to respond
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Is anyone else ridiculously obsessed with Gat, or is it just Volition?
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>>280678270
>Is anyone else ridiculously obsessed with Gat, or is it just Volition?
are you kidding
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>>280678270
Volition made something out of it because people spammed their email to death thanks to the shit they pulled with him in SR3.
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>>280677098


Key word: mods. Most of us play the console version, you fuck.
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>>280678418
> Most of us play the console version, you fuck.
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>>280678270

There was a novelty with him, that old school fans enjoy of him that was taken advantage of thanks to their shitty writing in 3.

It's overkill.
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>>280678238

You didn't make a valid point, SR2 played like a sack of squirrels in setting concrete.

>lolsorandumb

The only appropriate come back for that sort comment would be.

>Serious games for serious people.
>Tipping intensifies.

That would make me as moronic as you are.
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>>280678418

The fact that you still can't mod console software is a fucking crime.

Fuck consoles.

Of all the criticism people lay on consoles that the only one I have ever cared about, the systems are just too closed.

I honestly never though about consoles though, kind of sucks not being able to mod.
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>>280678534
>playing 2 on pc
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>>280678608

Your comment was so pretentious I just died and came back to life.
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>>280678835
Gentlemen of the Row fixes most issues with the port.
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>>280678835
>tfw logged over 100 hours on PC
>on a keyboard
>all of those hours without the mod that fixes car steering
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>>280678835
works fine on my machine :^)
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>>280678914
>Your comment was so pretentious

I nearly gagged a couple of time typing it.
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>>280679039
PM me the fix
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>>280679229
sent :)
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>>280679271

What? How the hell did you guys send private messages?
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>>280679448
4chan gold
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>>280679448
4chan gold account
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>>280679531

How much? Did Mot jew out with this too before he left?

I bet the fucker is reeling over canvas. LOL.
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>>280679531
I forgot that was a thing.
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>>280678835
>tfw 30 hours in vanilla for first playthrough
>install GotR
>select car steering fix
>constantly crashing into things, can't steer worth a damn
>make new patch without steering fix
>return to scheduled cap-in-ass popping
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>>280678608
aww how cute, he thinks that not addressing my criticism at all and diverting away from it will give him internet points.

go away child, i have no more use for a retards opinion
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>>280679820
>mfw
>>
>trying to form logic and reasoning behind SR

lol wtf is wrong with you
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>>280679950
le epic ruseman
I, as a witness to your rhetorics, tip my fedora and lift my chins to you
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>>280626113

wacky is boring and lame
>>
The way I see it, the endings to GOOH give two options. Either a sequel where we invade a planet of warriors to secure a new home for the human race, which would probly be another shitty game, or a glorious retcon / reboot where everyone is a cop.
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>>280680115

My weenus peenus! ha ha

burst into treats

>;)
>>
How does Sr1 hold up today?
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>>280680348
not very good
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>>280680348
Still a great game.
Bad thing about it is having to do the activities to get respect for missions. Sr2 introduced ways of gaining respect thorough natural play, drifting, headshots, cool stunts etc, SR1's activities are mostly crappy ones.

Hitman will drive you fucking insane.
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>>280679448
>not having 4chan gold
>2011
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>>280680847

>Hot dog guy
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>>280680963
Those feels of rage.

Especially when spending FUCKING HOURS looking for certain targets, and then 8 of them spawn at once. This also applies to the car lists.
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>>280680932
>paying for 4chan
what is this?
somethingawful?
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You know what I love?
This fucking silly hip hop gang bang, dildo waving, alien smashing, satan stomping series
HAS A FUCKING LORE
>>
>>280681163

What did you think of Saints Row 2's?
>>
>>280682000
Easier. It gave pretty specific details on how to get most of the targets to show up, and the ones that were just in a specific area generally showed up after a couple of minutes.

>>280681959
And after 5 games, it runs pretty deep. And that's before we get into the fact that it's in the same universe as Red Faction.
>>
I stopped playing Gat Out of Hell today. Collecting all the souls was the last thing I did. I'm not going do all "kill X amount of demons with Y".
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>>280682297

Deeper than GTA's?
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>>280682835
>Everything in America sucks and everyone is awful.

There, I just told you all of GTA's lore.
>>
>>280680963
>>280681163
>>280682297

You guys are forgetting the absolute worst part.

YOU HAD TO USE A SPECIFIC WEAPON TO KILL EACH OF THE TARGETS.

SR2's is much better because it gives you a way to trigger appearances. It was really fun.

>>280683337
SR's satire is mostly the same, dude. It pokes fun at America, too.
>>
Why did Volition have to fuck everything up so badly?
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>>280669174

The only bad thing about SR2 is the dreadful framerates, especially if vsync was enabled, at least on modern HDTVs. Blaming the game and it's controls for your plebeian lack of skill is not a valid criticism.
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>>280682835
Obviously considering GTA has rebooted twice, and you play as a different character in each game, most of the continuity is a recurring character or reference.
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>>280679879
I just put horizontal sensitivity to 0 in vehicles and I never had to care about any mod, it drives almost as good as 3.
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>tfw I want to play SR2
>tfw it's broken as fuck on PC
When the fuck is Volition going to release the official modding tools so that we can get SR2 running perfectly on PC
>>
When I first began with Saints Row back in 2007, I never thought come 2015 I would actually care about the characters this much.

Sure, only Boss & Gat are still alive from the first game, but still.
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>>280685391
Indeed. For something they've been hyping up since before Sr4, theres next to nothing to show for it.

Idolninja sold out.
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>>280685530
Pretty much, I just want to be able to play SR2 and be able to use actual weapon/model-changing mods for SR3
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>>280685391
>When the fuck is Volition going to release the official modding tools
LOL

I feel your pain, though. I don't want to play SR2 on consoles anymore.
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>>280643882
couldn't they have just given him the AI the miniboss alien dudes used?
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I think a lot of Sr3's problem was the ammount of shit awful characters it introduced.

In fact, every single new character apart from Kinzie was awful. Especially Zimos.
>>
>>280656332
To be fair, the boss did straight up mention zombie Lin in one of the SR2 DLC missions. Taking that into account, they did exist in some form or another.
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>>280625794
power corrupts
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>>280686203
Probably because Kinzie is like, the only relatively normal character out of the lot.
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>>280685391
I don't get why I keep seeing this. What's broken? I had a few glitches in cut scenes, Japanese dude's bodyguard's phone floating a foot from his hand being the only one I can think of off of the top of my head. The gameplay it's self ran as smooth as on the 360. I don't recall any tearing, any polarizing, any whatever you call it when the top half of the screen goes on the bottom like when you had a loose aerial connection. No major bugs that made it unplayable. Controls were a bit iffy I think, but that's just adapt and go.

So can someone who did have a broken experience share what was wrong with it for them?
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>>280686580
SR2 is the most wildly unstable port ever made. On some computers it works perfectly fine, on some computers it works fine with some mods, and on others it's unbearably broken.

It has a reputation as one of the worst PC ports made.
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>>280686580
>So can someone who did have a broken experience share what was wrong with it for them?
First you tell me your system specs, because as I understand, the further your hardware is away from the 360's, the worse the game will run.
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So which ending of Gat out Of Hell do we want to be Canon?
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The progression of this series has been a strange one.

Saints Row began as a rushed GTA clone meant to beat Rockstar to the punch in that market, and it worked.

Saints Row 2 used to be the pinnacle of the series for me. It had the perfect blend of humor and serious to sell me on the story and the action.

Saints Row 3 was such a huge disappointment for me, because the progression from street gangs to almost superheroes and villains really soured me, and the story for the most part was trite garbage. Also, Hulk Hogan voicing a hispanic luchador was offensive to all six senses.

Then SR4 came and it was just so over the top and completely self-aware in their embracing of the ridiculous that it just worked on every level. I think at some point, Volition began to realize that they can't "out-GTA" GTA, so they needed to do something to make the series distinctive and get it away from the "GTA clone" label. And SR4 did it. It had little text adventures in it, and even a classic arcade brawler mission!

These guys love what they do and it shows.
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>>280686991
Retcon.
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>>280686760
Behold, my toaster
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>>280686991
The one that retcons everything and turns everything back to normal. I really liked 3 and 4, but if they keep trying to 1-up the cuhrayzee antics in every future title like they've been doing, it would just get old really fast.
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>>280686580
I installed SR2 the first time on this same computer a few years back and it would crash everytime at the first quest in the bar as soon as I exited

I installed it again, exactly as before, earlier this week after all these SR threads and the game ran perfectly fine.

Shit don't make sense yo'
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>>280686991
Though I want retcon.
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>>280687369
>>280687335
Definately retcon.

I have a horrible feeling they'll go with the new home planet one though so they can literally create PLANET SAINTS.
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>>280687679
Based SR1 Eesh.
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>>280686991
New planet.
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>>280687369
I want the series to become like Evangelion and Gat is Shinji and keeps rebooting the universe when things get too absurd
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bum
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Is volition working on anything right now? Not even SR stuff, but anything else?
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