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Just reminding you that Valve haven't made any games lately,

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Just reminding you that Valve haven't made any games lately, because they are wasting time making shitty Linux distro and hats.
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We know. Nobody is pleased with it.
They really ran out of ideas, it seems.
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I agree that it sucks it takes valve a decade to do anything, but why is moving away from windows for video games a bad thing in any way?
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>>277427548
Windows a best
>great gaming
>great file management
>great all around

literally why would I cripple my pc to be more like a console?
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>>277427548
It's not a bad move, but I would prefer them to, you know, focus on games instead of trying to start fights with MS or turn steam more and more into Facebook for gamers.
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Source 2
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Too busy killing the PC market by locking games in an external program that is borderline malware.
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why dont they make an linux that can run the all windows exe

boom problem solved i saved the linux penguin
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>>277427818

This has been possible for a long time, It just doesn't run them nearly as well in most cases.
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>>277427548
It's a bad thing in every way. Windows is already a thousand times superior so why waste ANY time and resources on trying to improve Linux?
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>>277427791
They're doing the exact opposite: saving vidya by ditching Windows and Microsoft in general.
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>>277426757
All these haters

> running the biggest digital distribution platform in the world
> creating an operating system
> creating steamboxes
> leaks confirm they are working on games as well

I don't get the 'Valve are lazy meme'. That's an insane amount of stuff to be doing considering they have a staff of like 300 people. Most companies would have more staff than that for just one of those things on the list by itself.
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>>277428113
>> creating an operating system
>> creating steamboxes
no one cares about that shit
I want a game company to develop games, not produce cars or Big Macs.
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>>277428104
Microsoft brought us Windows which has been far better than Mac or Linux for vidya so why would you want to ditch them?
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>>277428279
>>277428313
>>277427948
>>277427642

>Not wanting a back up option in case Microsoft goes full retard

It's not necessarily likely, but the damage to PC gaming could be immense if Microsoft decides to go for a walled garden approach at some point in the future. I applaud Valve for SteamOS, it really can't hurt to have a contingency plan.
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>>277428313
Mobile devices are the bigest part of gaming and noone wants Microsoft there.
Checkmate microshill.
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Stop complaining. Hats are good. I can't wait to buy cosmetics for my SteamOS and make all the poorfags jealous.
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>>277428556
MS has gone full retard multiple times and nobody cares. People just continue to use the non-retard version, which forces MS to go back on their retardation.
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>>277428607
Mobile devices are also the biggest blight of gaming.
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>>277427642
>multiple root hierarchies
>sub-par support of symlinks
>requires shitty 3rd party drivers for ext filesystems
>no lvm
>no luks/dmcrypt
>no unionfs
>great file management
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>>277428852
That's Xbox, microshill.
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>>277428279
Valve made HL1. Other people made Counter-Strike, Team Fortress, everything. They just bought those people. Portal? They bought the team that made Narbacular Drop. Portal 2? They bought the team that made Tag: The Power of Paint. HL2 was their only real game after that, lord knows what other purchased teams were involved. They probably just got bored of making original games after Episode 2.

They aren't a videogame company, they're a videogame aggregator.
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>>277427948
>Windows is already a thousand times superior
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>>277426757
Valve has not produced a good game after Half Life. This is a fact
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>>277429015
Well, at least CS:GO is better than CSS.
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>>277428970
No, it's mobile devices. The hardware is incredibly inferior yet there are devs who focus on developing for them. Who the fuck REALLY wants to play on a mobile device unless you have absolutely no other option?
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>>277429015
I disagree, Portal 1 and 2 are the only good Valve games.
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>linuxfags assblasted
>>>/g/45838353
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>>277428985
All of this is well known, but the point still stands.
Nobody cares about all the fluff around the company.
People want games.
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>>277427642
>great file management
I can't really agree with you there.
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>>277429118
not a Valve game, and it is very, very bad esports kiddie pandering piece of shit
>>277429134
le memes xD le randumb xD: the game
>good
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>>277427642

Are you a employed by the Microsoft marketing department? If not, you should submit your application, because that's some class A buzzphrase marketing talk right there.

>great file management
Very vague, could mean anything. In case of questioning, can easily be spun to whatever you want.

>great all around
Ultimate buzzphrase, meaning nothing.
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>>277429263
>i didnt get the golden potato from valve stop making me feel bad about portal ;-;
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>>277429263
>very, very bad esports kiddie pandering piece of shit
Did you even play the game? It's CS, you can play on casual and just have fun.
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>>277429129
Xbox gave gaming more cancer than mobile devices ever did.
>Paid online
>DLC
>Obligatory tacked-on multiplayer
>Achievements
>Console shooters
>etc
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>>277429412
>I enjoy "fun" memegames unironically
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>>277428853
>>277429000
Linux takes multiple more steps for everything you want to do and has fucking garbage compatibility
>inb4 just use wine!!!!!!!!!!

There's hardly a program out there that isn't made for Windows and I can run it with 2 clicks at most. I'd rather not sit there and extract tars and compile shit all day just so I can sleep at night knowing I have a hipster OS
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>>277429563
>I'd rather not sit there and extract tars and compile shit all day

Oh, so you have literally no idea what you are talking about. It's 2014. Just use the software manager with a nice GUI if you are retarded.
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>>277429563

Its not hipster though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_adopters

The US government are the largest customers of RHEL.
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there is literally and figuratively no reason at all to use linux.
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>>277429728
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS

Even North Fucking Korea uses Linux.
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>>277429563
>>277429761
Linux is literally perfect /a/ and /co/ OS and Valve wants to make it a perfect /v/ OS.
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>>277429761
Sure, if you don't want features, go for Windows.
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>>277429761
Maybe if you want to fit in /g/.
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>>277429519
>Paid online
Sega did it first.

>DLC
No, that started on PC with Cavedog, with earlier precursors being Atari and Sega who offered digital downloads of their games a long time ago.

>Obligatory tacked-on multiplayer
You REALLY think this started on Xbox? Seriously? How fucking underage are you?

>Achievements
They're a glorified form of scoring which has existed in games since forever.

>Console shooters
Several of which have been very good.

Meanwhile mobile devices have just sucked away money from devs for nothing because no game on mobile devices can be innovative due to the incredibly inferior hardware.
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/g/ pls go this is video games not your shitty Richard Stallman circlejerk of a board.

get out before /v/ ruins you completely
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>>277427642
I've never see so many buzzwords kill yourself
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>>277429563
>apt
>yum
>pacman
Holy shit get it together now m8.
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>>277429836
Why is it best for /a/?
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>>277429936
>>DLC
>No, that started on PC with Cavedog

No, that started on SNES with the Satellaview http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellaview
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>>277429672
>software manager has every program ever!!!

>>277429909
What features would those be? Terminal commands 95% of all casual users will never use?
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>>277429936
>O-others did it first!
Don't even try to deflect it, microshill.
Next you'll be saying that Hitler did nothing wrong because some other people burned jews before that.
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>>277430018
Cause you can read mango and watch animu on it easily
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>>277429519
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>>277430151
Not him, but Hitler did nothing wrong, and not for the reasons you stated.
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>>277430151
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>>277430041
>software manager has every program ever!!!
>steam has every game ever!!!

>What features would those be?
No viruses, lightning fast, automatic updates for ALL software, ultra customizable,...

http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
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WIndow botnet bloat shit fags.
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>>277430041
It has most programs a casual user would want, unless you want some terminal command 95% of people will never use.
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What are the advantages of linux over windows exactly

>pretty much free
>pro-freedom
>less of a memory hog
That's all I figured out from my short experience with ubuntu
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>>277430018
Linux has the best P2P, file management and media viewing software there is.
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Daily reminder that steam does not force games to have drm and some games sold on steam are completely drm free.
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>>277430351
>What are the advantages of linux over windows exactly
See >>277430273
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>>277428113

you do know that linux is a mad retarded waste of time for games
the only ace up the fatfucks hole would be doing some shit with wine that just ultimately werks along with gpu drivers
this is not happening though, so the sad conclusion would be that gabe is surrounded by edgy as fuck digital hipsters who think linux is a totally viable OS for gaming and are something like anthony birch, in terms of being a retarded faggot

seriously, unless they really pull some magical shit out of their ass, this whole linux thing may be the dumbest shit ever done by a company of their scale

total waste of fucking time
how could anyone possibly be this retarded?
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>>277430429
Daily reminder that Steam is a DRM.

Daily reminder that consoles don't have DRM for physical games.
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>>277430429
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>>277426757
How long before valve abandons this idea like they did with the android app among other things?
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>>277430157
>download episode
>double click to open

Linux is more easy than that?
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>>277430351
>no games
>no professional software
>complicated to use

but there's a lot of nerd cred to be had
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Linux sounds great and all but

>fragmented distros
>horrible driver support for vidya

It's not a good gaming platform right now.
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>>277430429
This guy isn't wrong.
Some games can be activated while steam is off.
But most can't.
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>>277430429
Uh-huh
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>>277430429
>>277430508
Daily reminder that DRM is a healthy and logical step forward for digital content distribution and intellectual property copyright protection laws.
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>>277430590
Yeah
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>>277430273
>steam, a game service is comparable to an OS
Oh +1 to you fella.

>No viruses
There's no such thing as no viruses.

>lightning fast
Correct, that is the best part of Linux. It's very light and very powerful in regards to bypassing errors and shit.

>automatic updates for ALL software
>implying this is a good thing

>ultra customizable
Windows can be customized easily as well

>>277430315
So why can't I run .exe files without WINE which doesn't work half the time? What if a game is Windows only?
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>>277430590
Windows :
>download episode
>double click to open
>windows media player opens
>remember that you don't have installed vlc yet
>close it
>open firefox
>remember that you don't have firefox
>open ie to download firefox
>open firefox to download vlc
>next, next, next, next, next, next
>double click to open
>watch episode

Linux:
>download episode
>remember that you don't have installed vlc yet
>apt-get install vlc
>watch episode
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>>277430661
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>>277430593
>no games
823 Linux games on Steam as of right now.

>no professional software
I'm pretty sure the 480 supercomputers Linux runs on use professionals software.

>complicated to use
That's because you are retarded, anon. Linux Mint or Ubuntu are easier than Windows.
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being part of the botnet never felt so good

I personally don't mind having all of my search queries messages and files saved onto NSA servers
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Half Life 3 is never coming out.
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>>277430661
Except it has never worked.
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>>277430753

>setting up a computer for the first time after a reformat is the typical usage scenario!

You could make a fair, unbiased comparison and still probably make a good point, so why the bullshit?
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>>277430753
>what is ninite

https://ninite.com/
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>>277430753
Windows:
>install MPC+MadVR
>never have to touch anything again and just download shit

Quit exaggerating /g/ troll
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>>277428556
I think it has more to do with API's.
DirectX is cancer due to its distribution method. If it was often updated without changing system it wouldn't hurt but when most users used 9.0c for years even though there already was 10 and 11 out, and though they've had hardware that supported them - there is something wrong with the distribution method.
If they'd opt for linux instead, DX would be much less popular in favour of OpenGL and similar.
>>277430273
>No viruses,
There are some.
Of course they're not as common as windows-affecting ones but if it was linux that has majority of marketshare when it comes to OS - you'd see them everywhere.
Pretty much the same applies to OSX.
>>277430590
Well, considering the fact that distributions like mint have codecs and working image viewer out of box(unlike windows) I guess he has a point.
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Fucking lel, no wonder there's so many Linux hipsters in here

>>>/g/45838353
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I'm retarded
How do I acquire linux exactly
Guides say I have to boot from a disk or flash drive

Literally what
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>>277430768
>I'm too dumb to grasp what is being said here let alone try and argue it so I'll just call it bait
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>>277431225
Install Gentoo
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>>277430753
>>277430590
Actually mpv is the best media player on Linux now and it gives a best experience out of the box than MPC-HC
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>>277431225

What is <insert search engine>?
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>>277431007
>third party software for basic fonctionnality

>>277430732
>There's no such thing as no viruses.
Please give me a link to a Linux virus.

>automatic updates for ALL software
>implying this is a good thing
How could you not want that ? If you don't want an update, uncheck it. BUt on Windows, you have to hunt every software manually, if you remember to update. That's shit.

>Windows can be customized easily as well
Can be customized ? Yes. Easily ? No.

>So why can't I run .exe files without WINE
So why can't I run Xbox games on a PS4 ?
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>this thread
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>>277431218
>there are people educated enough in my thread to consider alternative OSes technically superior and viable alternative to windows and don't agree with me
>they must all be from /g/!!

end yourself
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Anybody here that doesn't want Valve focusing on sequels in favor of creating new IPs?
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>>277431320
>Actually mpv is the best media player now
FTFY
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>>277430732
>Windows can be customized easily as well
Haha wow.
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>>277430151
Let me add that Microsoft also gave us Windows which is, along with the most powerful computer hardware commercially available today, the absolute best platform to play video games on at the moment. So for all your bitching and moaning about some little things Microsoft popularized (but DIDN'T technically start) which are overall trivial, you're dismissing all the really good things they've done.
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Linusfags are like potheads who can't shut up about drugs.
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http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74

Even Windows developers know its shit.

>>277431639
>shilling this hard
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>>277427746
>more into Facebook for gamers.
How is it not already? There are daily "rate my profile! tee hee" threads here
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>>277431749
>Make a thread linux
>complain that people are talking about linux
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>>277430481


maybe they would have a better chance with some kind of autistic partnership with google for actually getting an OS of their own to succeed
but really, aint shit happening without directX
its possible to make it work on linux. even the legality of it can be circumvented (anonymous 3rd party app all the "cool kidz" are installing)

but this is just unrealistic
notice how consoles run off radeon hardware
notice how many great titles are now multiplat
notice how its easier to port console plats over to directX, but also notice how directX can run on consoles too if someone really wanted to port windows over to them
notice how directX is much more entrenched within the developmental environment and has much more support and software framworks to work around with (also is more robust capability and efficiency)

swear to god the fat man is smoking crack on this one
theres just no possible way this linux project of theirs is something even serious
it's gotta be some low level project a couple of neckbeards at valve are working on with their spare time or something.. its not something complicated to do
i'm literally grasping at any logical straw i can at this moment, i.. i simple cant come to terms with how anyone could possibly take linux seriously
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>>277430937
>823 Linux games on Steam as of right now.
Most of them are shit, buggy ports with ZERO support and weak communities. Relying on users to fix them.

>I'm pretty sure the 480 supercomputers Linux runs on use professionals software.
Ha hah! supercomputers are specialized computers do not serve the same function as PCs.

>complicated to use
>That's because you are retarded, anon. Linux Mint or Ubuntu are easier than Windows.
User friendliness and streamlining are necessary in mass distribution to the public. It will never be adopted on mass in the state it's in now. Enjoy your niche, faggot.
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>>277429563
>Linux takes multiple more steps for everything you want to do
Sounds more like Windows to me.

>and has fucking garbage compatibility
Runs on a wider range of hardware compared to Windows. Intel has full open source drivers for their hardware (including GPUs) while AMD and nVidia both have official drivers for their GPUs.

>There's hardly a program out there that isn't made for Windows
The majority of worthwhile programs were made with Unices in mind, even though they easily run on Windows (the wonders of portability).

>I can run it with 2 clicks at most.
Windows installers take a lot more than two clicks.

>I'd rather not sit there and extract tars and compile shit all day
Then don't.

>just so I can sleep at night knowing I have a hipster OS
It's funny watching people who don't know how to use a computer act like they do because they can pirate manchild games.
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For some companies, success breeds stagnation. Just look at nintendo during the wii years. They were the biggest they've ever been and printing money hand over fist, but I'd argue we saw less quality games from them compared to the gamecube years, and they weren't nearly as big. IMO it's because they were actually fighting to get every last customer and were pulling out all the stops. But when they were successful, they didn't need to give a shit

Same with valve. They were always quality over quantity of games, but they actually made games. Even kept making them for a couple of years even after steam became huge. But no longer. And I doubt they'll ever bother again, really.
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>>277431824
>shilling
>implying Linux utilizes top tier computer hardware as well as Windows does
No shilling, just common fucking sense.
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>>277431952
>Most of them are shit, buggy ports with ZERO support and weak communities. Relying on users to fix them.
Like most console ports on Windows.

>User friendliness
>what is linux mint
>what is ubuntu
>what is elementaryOS
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>>277431278
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i love how butthurt the linuxfags are
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>>277431365
>Please give me a link to a Linux virus
Please tell me you seriously don't think Linux can get a virus. You look so fucking stupid right now.

>How could you not want that?
I can update myself because I'm not a forgetful retard. I rather not go though trouble of downgrading if the update is shit as well.

>So why can't I run Xbox games on a PS4?
What a shit analogy. Those are two different machines with different software. An OS doesn't compare.

>>277431513
>viable alternative to windows
Name one. Go on, I'll be waiting here.
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>>277426757
not like we're missing anything
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>winplebs have to deal with this
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>>277432098
Linuxfags are the worst fanbase
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>>277432068
>Windows 7 can use up to 192GB of RAM
>Linux can use up to 218TB of RAM
>Linux does not utilizes top tier computer hardware

You are either a shill or an idiot. Either way, kill yourself.
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>ctrl-f gnu
>0 results
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>>277432071
We'll make it fair to you then. I can't mention console ports to PC and you can't mention windows ports to Linux.

How many games does that leave you now? HAH!

>>277432071
>User friendliness
>what is linux mint
>what is ubuntu
>what is elementaryOS
And that's done what to make Linux appealing to the masses?
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>>277432112
>Please tell me you seriously don't think Linux can get a virus. You look so fucking stupid right now.
Well, give me the name of at least one Linux virus. I'll wait.

>I can update myself because I'm not a forgetful retard.
Are you implying automation of trivial tasks is a BAD thing?

>An OS doesn't compare.
The OS are different, fucktard. OF COURSE, a Windows exe does not run natively on Linux.

>>viable alternative to windows
>Name one. Go on, I'll be waiting here.
Everything else.
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>>277432336
i use it on my laptop instead of windows because of linux mint

and i'm pretty massive
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>>277432336
>And that's done what to make Linux appealing to the masses?
That's made it user friendly and easier to use than Windows.
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