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Well, /v/?
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Add Style Savvy: Trendsetters to Strong and move SMTIV there too.
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>3d land as solid

Ughh
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>>275900406
>implying it wasn't

Fuck off.
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Whats wrong with alpha sapphire?
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>hating on Awakening because waifufags ruined the series

Its a good game, shit fanbase tho.

Ace Attorney is also strong, its definitely not Apollo tier anyway.
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>>275900559

It wasn't. It was shallow, easy, short, 80% rehash from older games, the "special" stages were just recycled normal stages.
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>FE fags still mad the latest entry is more popular than their favorite one
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>>275900579
>removal of customizations
>no interaction with X/Y
>exclusive new mega evolutions
>disgusting character designs

>>275900675
>It was shallow, easy, short, 80% rehash from older games, the "special" stages were just recycled normal stages.

Oh wow you just described SMW
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>ALBW
>PL&TMM
>Dream Team
>SM3DL
>Smash 3DS
>solid

Why is the 3DS' library so fucking overrated?
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I have to slightly disagree about NYI. Getting all the collectables is pretty challenging. And almost all of the special levels are fuck all hair pull inducing.

That being said, it did lack a certain something to make it REALLY interesting as a game. I never found myself absolutely wanting to play it. And I do wish it had more content.
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>>275900767

The only bit of that that describes SMW is arguably "easy." It's still harder than 3d land though even if you think World is still too easy. Other than that, none of those others apply.
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>EOU
>A weak entry to the series
But muh story mode. Nop, fuck off
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>>275900848
>Dream team and ALBW
>bad

I really, really enjoy the fuck out of this maymay
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>>275900848
ALBW, Minish Cap and TP have been the only good Zeldas since MM
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>>275899905
I don't feel like X/Y were solid entries. Possibly my least favourite addition, mainly for the difficulty and lack of good content.
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Switch Pokemon X with SMT4.
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>>275901186
>>275901241
>casualized ALTTP for the 3DS kiddies
>anything but shit
>b-but it's non-linear!!!!!!!!
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>>275901607
>actually deluding yourself thinking ALttP is anything but casual shit

I love this "LE OLDER GAMES WERE HARD TO ME AS A KID" maymay
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>X/Y were strong
>ORAS were weak

Literally any other choice but that would be better.
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So, If AS wasn't strong, then OR wasn't strong too?

Is this what the list are saying?
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>>275902127
>hoenbabbies defending that pile of garbage remake because >muh nostalgia
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>RF4
>weak.

>X/Y
>solid.
Get fucked m8.
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>>275900848
>Why is the 3DS' library so fucking overrated?
This. so. much.
I'll never understand why /v/ hyped this piece of shit handheld so hard in 2013. Only because it got 5 not-so-mediocre games after 2 years of nothing.
The joke's on me though, I bought my XL around that time.
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>>275899905
>Shitty mansion
>Solid
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>>275902224

I'm not. I just think that X and Y were weak and ORAS did little to make them better.
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>>275900848

What this anon said. The DS had one of the greatest game libraries ever, while the 3DS just has sequels of varying quality.
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>SMT4
>Weak
By which standards? Because 4 is better than both 1 and 2.
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>>275902342
>dem nostalgia goggles

Dark Moon was miles better than "Linear Mansion: do the same shit during the whole game" for gamecube.
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>>275899905
Pretty accurate actually. The only thing I would change is Fire Emblem
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>>275900675
>shallow
what

>easy
Like every other Mario game

>short
Holy shit, you are dumb.

>80% rehash from older games
Are you retarded?

>the "special" stages were just recycled normal stages.
Yeah, most of them were
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>>275900581
>>275900692
>weak=bad

FE6 is a weak entry but still a great game. Just because it isn't as good as other games in the series doesn't mean it is bad by any means. I like it.
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>>275902610
>le nostalgia meme
Dark moon was a huge disappointment not because it was different of NGC game but because doing those misions finding the fragments and another mison and so on, it just didnt feel rigth for me, buyer remorse.
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>>275899905
Swap Awakening and 3D Land.
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>>275902960
>e but because doing those misions finding the fragments and another mison and so on, it just didnt feel rigth for me,

So literally "it was not like the original!"

Stop contradicting yourself.
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>>275902960
>it just didnt feel rigth for me
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>OR\AS and SMT IV
>Weak
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>>275900767
>disgusting character designs
Let's not lie here, the others are valid problems, but that sure as hell isn't true.
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>>275899905
When will it stop being cool to hate on awakening, I wonder.

/v/ is like a little kid, so I can predict that eventually they will grow out of this bandwagon. Maybe when the next fire emblem comes out.
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>>275900767
>>removal of customizations
Yes

>>no interaction with X/Y
Wrong

>>exclusive new mega evolutions
Yes

>>disgusting character designs
Opinion
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>SMT IV
>Weak

Someone didn't get the neutral ending~
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>>275903150
Go away
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>>275900848
They can only be overrated if they aren't a good as people say. All of those are amazing, so they aren't overrated.
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>>275903182
>>275903042
>a bloo bloo stop hating on Awakening!
>Loocina is mai whyfoo!
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>>275901607
>casualized when it's basically copy pasted ALTTP
>using kiddies unirocinally
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>>275902960
>it just didnt feel rigth for me
What a stunningly powerful argument.

Kill yourself, it's a better game in every way but ghost design.
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>>275899905
I've been playing RF4 for like a month straight now and really enjoying it, if this is what a "weak" game looks like I'd be very interested to see what an actually good game looks like to /v/.
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Honest question, what's wrong with Rune Factory 4? I haven't played it but I've played the other 3 main games and I was looking forward to playing 4 soon.
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>>275903648
It's europoor anal pain, don't pay attention.
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>AA VS Layton better than Dual Destinies

Not after that ending.
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>>275903182
>you aren't allowed to criticize a game in any way or else you are bandwagoning
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>>275900675
>>275902910
Hold on. 3D Land was a weak entry, and it was easy. Far easier than most Mario games, since most Mario games have very challenging levels in the later stages of the game, and 3D Land never really had any. Don't play that "every Mario game is easy" shit.

It was pretty short technically, but there was the fact that they had literally double the amount of worlds as extra content, so it depends on whether or not you liked replaying the same levels with a bit of spice added. The levels themselves were very. very short.

>80% rehash from older games
Yeah, this is bullshit.
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>>275899905
Put 3D Land, Worst Monster Hunter Version, Smash 3ds (lol enjoy your lag/single player version of a multiplayer game) worst Resident Evil Revelations version, 3D Land & Pokemon X in weak entries.

It might seem like I'm a drone or anything but they honestly were rather weak. I'd also put Persona Q there for not even having any redeeming Persona features (Social Link etc) but I don't think that despite missing some of those features it's weak.

I'd argue Triple Deluxe is a step-back for Kirby in general and that Shattered Crystal isn't really that awful. But hey. Sonic games are all mediocre so defining weak and solid Sonic games is hard.

Mario Tennis a goat though, that mindfuck online. I'm not sure how you'd hate the best Mario Tennis version. I literally never had lag either. That game was actually really enjoyable.
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>>275902610
I played LM for the first time a week before DM. DM seemed to get a lot of praise only because it was released when the 3DS was still a little starved of games.
Dark Moon had you doing the same shit, too. It was repetitive as fuck, and that makes it more unbearable since it's twice as long as the original.
Also, making it mission based was a stupid idea.
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>>275903938
>Worst MonHun
But that's not the Wii version
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>>275904098
There's the WiiU version anon. And the Wii version was the best thing at the time.
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>>275903927
>w-when I do it it's not bandwagoning!
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>>275903418
>implying
It's a great game, you just hate it because you're fucking obsessed with the waifu meme. Lucina and Tharja are both shit characters and I never ever used them. Gaiden and Geneology are my FEs of choice.
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>>275899905

>X>ORAS
Nigga what.
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>>275903307
>one bad character design in a see of perfect ones
>all of them are somehow bad now
Fucking kill yourself.
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>>275904190
So what, I can't talk about how Pair Up is broken? My issues with the game don't have shit to do with waifus or popularity, you know. FE6 has issues and I'm able to discuss those.
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>X is solid
>ORAS isn't


Holy fucking shit. Can one man be this retarded?
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>>275901324
if you have had ANY difficulty with a pokemon game since you were 6, I say you're retarded.
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fixed it for you OP
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>>275903938
>lol enjoy your lag/single player version of a multiplayer game
I played with my friends, and since my internet isn't trash I rarely had any lag. Enjoy not enjoying great things, I can practice best Smash anywhere I want. Same for MH, I can play it wherever, then transfer my file back to the Wii U version.
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>>275904534
>thinks pairup is broken
That's because you're comparing to earlier fire emblems you fucking mouth-breather.

Try beating lunatic+ (or even lunatic) without grinding the DLC. But hey I bet you didn't even do that because you're a bandwagoning edgy kiddie from /v/ who doesn't know shit about fire emblem.

Why am I even replying to you
I bet you're jittering behind your screen going "lolWAIFUFAG PAIR UP IS BABYMODE" Congrats you trolled me.
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>>275899905
>RF4
>weak
its the best rune factory game, stop baiting
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>>275899905
>paper mario

man

why did they have to do that one-use sticker faggotry
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>>275903331
>amazing

Stop being hyperbolic.
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>all these people that can't handle a bit of water
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>>275903182
>When will it stop being cool to hate on awakening, I wonder.
When it becomes a good game? I enjoy awakening for the waifus, but the gameplay is certainly not up to standards with the rest of the series - especially with those open as fuck maps
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>>275903938
This is about entries in the franchise, not "which platform version is better"
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>>275904534
>Pair Up is broken?
>cutting your map coverage in half and risking two men at once for the chance to be a bit tougher is "broken"
You sound like you're bad at FE in general. most people who hate Awakening are, and just call it easy because they think it raises their "FE street cred".
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>>275903931
3DL was only easy if you abused the Tanuki Suit. If you didn't use it the game was quite fun and challenging.
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>>275904554
X/Y were forgivable because of the transition to 3D and they're the first games in Gen VI
OR/AS had everything laid out for them and they managed to fuck that up
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>>275904754
But I did that. Pair Up IS broken. Robin will just outstat all the enemies after a certain point.

Why are you so upset?
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>>275899905
But I liked Awakening and Untold let me play the first game with comfy as fuck music, it also introduced me to the series.
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>>275904450
Solid argument posting a wall of chipmunk samefaces
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>>275904554
you're right, they're both shit.
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>>275904843
I'm not.
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>>275905064
>map coverage

That doesn't matter in Awakening, though. The maps aren't just small, but the side objectives are almost never worth it on the few maps where they exist.

>risking two men at once
>by making them into a super invincible +30 avoid monster

And I've beaten each game on the hardest modes. And once again, I don't hate the game.

Why are you being so defensive?
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>>275904745
>I played with my friends
Anon, you played wireless regardless, you had lag.

>rarely
>I rarely eat shit
>but I can eat shit anytime now

>I can transfer my file
Transfer what exactly? Amount of shit you ate?

>>275905026
Smash 3ds is hands down, the worst, most incomplete version of Smash. Because it plays the worst, has 3 different type of lag, worst controls, worst design and fucking framedrops.
Unfair grinding just to pad the game, and I can go on but it's the worst.

Monhun 3 is also weak. If you're talking about that. I'm sorry, 40 bucks isn't so much of an investment that I need to force myself to play it if it's awful.
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>>275903867
Dual Destinies tweeest and finale were x20 times more retarded.
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>>275901607

Since when was ALTTP anything but casual?

In since when have any of the Zelda entries (bar the first two) been remotely difficult?
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I don't think I've ever been more disappointed with a game than when I played Paper Mario Sticker Star
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>Dark Moon
>solid
I had to push myself to play that shit.
It was fun at first, but then it became extremely repetitive.
The first one was a little repetitive too, but at least it didn't drag on as much as Dark Moon. Also, it was more charming in terms of ghost designs and music (fuck that Home Alone Bass Clarinet-tier shit from Dark Moon).
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>>275905135
>if I just say random, bad-sounding shit that makes no sense my argument wins
Wow, you sure convinced me. It's leagues better than RSE had. Sugimori's style only improves.

>but muh watercolor midgets
No, fuck off, his old style is far worse, and you only like it because you think it's cool to hate newer things on /v/ like the little lemming you are.
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>>275904450
They look worse than the characters they're based off, and I never even played the original RSE.
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>>275905356
>it has controls I don't like so it plays like shit!!

git gud, scrub

>m-muh gamecube controller!!
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>>275899905
>EO:U weak
IV is better sure but the story mode isn't all that bad, and there's still Classic mode. ORAS and Awakening shouldn't be on there either.
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>>275899905
You put rune factory on the right.... why?

swap to right
mario luigi
mario golf
poke x

swap to left
etrian odessey
rune factory 4
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>>275899905
Pointing out the obvious wrong opinions here.

>Solid
X/Y: No, even if they are better than ORAS, they're still weak compared to HGSS and BW/BW2.

RER: Nope, it's great for a portable, but still a weak game, which is depressing as it's not like the shit that's stained RE since 4.

Mario Golf: No mario sport game, except Strikers, has been good.

>Weak
EOUntold: Sorry, the fixed mechanics, added perks and the story mode actually make the game twice as enjoyable as it's original.

RF4: Bait of the highest caliber, RF4 is the best RF to date.
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>>275905479
>swap to right
>mario luigi
>mario golf

Epic, simply epic
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>>275899905
move dream team, link between worlds and luigi's mansion to the right and move rune factory 4 to the left.
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>>275904672
/thread
I'd also argue and say BW1 are solid but hey I'm not allowed

Also I think that entire 'we removed X because not many players would use it is BS' you can apply that to any mechanic in Pokemon, including shinies, and credits.

'why give the credits original music if not many people will even reach the credits?'
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>EO:U and RF4
>weak
You got me, I bit. Fuck you OP.
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>>275899905
>Azran Legacy
one of the worst Layton games
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>>275905356
>I didn't really have lag
>NUH UH, YOU DID BECAUSE I SAY SO!
Sure thing, kiddo.

>it's shitty shit shit, you just eat shit because shitshitshitshit
You aren't even trying. Stay bad at videogames. Smash 4 is the best Smash, Melee is overrated, and MH3U is the best MH.
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>>275899905
>ORAS in weak
>XY in solid

Come on now.
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>>275905459
Cool lies. That or terribly shit taste.
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>>275905546
>Mario Golf: No mario sport game, except Strikers, has been good.

Except this isn't a list of good and bad games. It's a list of solid/weak entries in franchises.
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>>275899905
>Etrian Odyssey
>SMT4
>Rune Factory 4
>ORAS
>weak side

And you have the nerve to put Gold Tour and Mario 3D Land on the strong side? Also Dream Team? That's the weakest fucking Mario and Luigi game, just as bad as Partners in Time
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miracle mask was much weaker then the other PL games but that afro layton made up for some of it
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>>275902224

>Autists raging about ORAS because they took away character customisations and BF.

Who the fuck really cares about dressing up little virtual kids in shitty clothes and with the addition of online battling against real people is the BF really that relevant any more?
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>>275904450
>turning neat designs into animu weebshit

>good

Remember when May wasn't an anorexic squirrel?
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>>275905331
>>by making them into a super invincible +30 avoid monster
Yeah, this never actually happened. Pairing up adds minimal stats. It's good because it can give you extra attacks on both defense and offense.

Look, it's not my favorite FE, and it is easier than some, but I'll be damned if Pair Up is somehow broken.
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>>275905475
>git gud
No, it factually has awful controls, the worst in the entire series.

Stop projecting, I'm merely stating facts. I play everything with the DK bongos.

>>275905653
>Sure thing, kiddo.
>really
You said >rarely
It factually has lag, it's a wireless game with poor netcode, and it has lag even on BF with 2 players, with zero items on.

It factually has framedrops. It factually has input lag as-well.

So there, all 3 things you could assign to the word 'lag' apply to this game. Also nice back pedaling. You yourself admitted it had lag just a second ago.

>and MH3U is the best MH.
And the WiiU version was better.
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>>275905757
It's still a weak entry regardless. There's no redeeming qualities to a sport title.
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>>275905898
>actually thinking Smash 64 has good controls

get a load of this manchild
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>>275905546
Have you played Mario Tennis?
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RF4 is in a better place

also
>>275903276
source pls
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>>275905546
>Mario Golf: No mario sport game, except Strikers, has been good.
Nice b8, homeslice.
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Considering the retrospect, Sonic Lost Worlds should figure in the solid entries. Unfortunately.
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>>275899905
Bruh, there are no weak entries in the Ace Attorney franchise.

Even Apollo Justice, Duel Destinies, and to a lesser extent Justice For All, the three weakest titles are like 6/10 at their worst.
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>>275899905
why do people put 3d land as a good game
the worlds have no overarching theme and the levels seem to be all randomly designed and don't follow any specific theming convention.
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>>275905879
II don't remember a time when she was. I do remember a time when she looked worse than she does now, though.

>squirrel
>chipmunk
What the actual fuck are you talking about?
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>>275905731
>cool lies
They do. They went from having emotion to uneven character proportions.

Sorry, but I'm actually a drawfag, they can keep the person that draws the pokemon, but fuck they should just hire someone that knows how to draw humans. And I'm not talking about chibi or anything, I'm talking about uneven arms and awful shadow.
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>>275906070
You're forgetting Investigations is the worst Ace Attorney in the franchise.
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>>275905798
>good online battling experience
>cookie cutter broken teams
pick one
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>>275906070

Thanks for proving his point.
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>>275905971

Reading comprehension. Use it
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>>275905898
>it factually has awful controls

But you can edit them, and where are your facts anyways?
"They suck because I say so"
Great facts, I just cant.
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>>275906246
>broken
git gud
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>>275905898
>It factually has lag, it's a wireless game with poor netcode, and it has lag even on BF with 2 players, with zero items on.
>It factually has framedrops. It factually has input lag as-well.
I never had those except a bit of lag online from time to time, which is to be expected from any game. I'm sorry you live in some third world country and think everyone has your problems.

>factually
Toppest kek.
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>>275905892
>somehow broken

Okay, the issue is that Supports build up fast. In addition to the flat +20hit/avoid boosts, you'll end up with shit like +6 Speed and Luck, boosting it further. Dual Guard also exists. Stat inflation is also higher than ever as you can level up infinitely, and get lots of skills. You get more, stronger, accurate attacks, more defense and avoiding power, and a chance for extra attacks/defenses. There's rarely a reason not to have your units in Pair Up. I can beat FE7 with relative ease because I know how everything works by this point. I can beat FE13 with ease because the mechanics are broken and encourage tactics that SHOULD be dumb(focus on as little units as possible) but because they didn't balance how stats work, you have enemies almost incapable of hitting Robin by midgame on the hardest modes. That's ridiculous.
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>MK7
>strong
>anything but a rushed piece of shit
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>>275905971
zero input lag, enough buttons, control stick for walk speed determination. Responsive.

How is it worse than the 3ds controls? Also, the 64 version having bad controls doesn't mean the 3ds version has good controls.

>>275906270
>But you can edit them, and where are your facts anyways?
You can't edit the input lag, the position or the responsiveness. With that logic the n64 version is better because I can play it on my Wii/PC.

>>275906373
>I never had those except
glad you agree
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>>275906170
The older designs had less emotion to them, though. Your lies just keep getting cooler.
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>>275903931
>most Mario games have very challenging levels in the later stages of the game, and 3D Land never really had any.
Did you really not play the game?
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untold seems to be on the wrong side, as does wright vs. layton
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>>275906518
>less emotion
prove it.
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>>275906171
Investigations is cool as shit dude. The only bad case is Case 3, the rest are pretty good.
>>275906256
My point was more that all Ace Attorney games are good, I wouldn't say any of them are particularly weak entries.
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>>275903927

From Sacred Stones onward every Fire Emblem game released in the west has basically been a whipping boy until a new one comes out.

Hell how shitty some of the complaints are I'm sure a lot of it is a bunch of vindictive idiots trying to get their own back for the criticism their 1st Fire Emblem got.
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>>275906517
And the 3DS has enough buttons, no input lag and the circlepad is just as responsive.

How about getting good?
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>>275905879
>>275902127
>>275902153
>>275902224
>>275903307
>>275905459
>>275905546
>>275905879
>>275906164

having a growing relationship with main girl in a pokemon game
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>>275899905
My adjustments

Solid -> Weak

>Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (no online play)
>Luigi's Mansion 2 (broken up mission structure completely missed the point of the original, Canadian fanfiction)
>Mario and Luigi (handholdy as shit)
>Resident Evil Revelations (irrelevant with the HD console ports)
>Pokemon X (all around incompetency)

Weak -> Solid
>New Super Mario Bros 2 (classic 16-bit style Mario challenge people expect, not the freshest coat of paint but coin rush and level designs are solid as ever)
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>>275906637
Except Sacred Stones is the best in the franchise.
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>>275903276
pls somebody source
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>>275899905

Bait
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>>275899905
>MK7, XY, Triple Deluxe
>solid
>ORAS
>weak

You're a faggot, OP. And an idiot.
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>>275905798
You have to be autistic to play pokemon online. I'd be playing online if I didn't have to do the tedious shit like getting pokemon with perfect IVs and EV training.
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>>275906728
>>Luigi's Mansion 2 (broken up mission structure completely missed the point of the original, Canadian fanfiction)

Oh yeah, the point of the original was a linear shitty game of "clearing room, getting key, go to next room" with 0 exploration thanks to the locked doors.

>>Mario and Luigi (handholdy as shit)
I love this meme, especially because Superstar Saga is even more handholdy than DT.
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>>275906246

Don't get me wrong there's a lot GF can do to improve the online battles but it's a shit load more fun than battling shit AI with broken RNG manipation all day long.
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>>275899905
>pokemon x in strong
>RF4 in weak

What?
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>>275899905
>MK7 and Trple Deluxe are solid

I never knew Mario Kart and Kirby had so many brain dead, autiistic kids defending it.
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>>275906879
Nobody here but you has a problem with MK7 being solid. The only faggot here is you.

>muh hoenn!

Faggot to the max.
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>MK7 is solid

Proof that /v/ is not the true majority of 3DS owners.
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>>275906246
>I'm Bad at Pokemon: The Post
Unless M Rayquaza is on the team and they know how to use him, it ain't broke.

>>275906512
The hardest modes have crazyfuck abilities like Vantage+ and all those other Plus abilities all over the place. it encourages breaking the game because you need to. Pavise+ and Aegis+ are insane. Your dodge doesn't mean much when they get 5 attack chances on you. I'm saying it balances out, for the most part.
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>>275906664
>enough buttons
So does the n64? Like, what are you implying?

>no input lag
Dude, are you blind or just stupid?
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>>275899905
どうぞ
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>>275906517
>>275906517
>You can't edit the input lag
>With that logic the n64 version is better because I can play it on my Wii/PC.

Yeah, with that logic you are saying that is a hardware problem and nothing related to software.
I think you are losing the main point of this thread.
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>>275907042
>loool my favorite MK is 64 and my favorite Kirby is Super Star

I knew /v/ was infested with nostalgiafags.

>>275907142
>samefagging after he said no one was complaining about MK7

Try harder.
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>>275907043

>Nobody here but you has a problem with MK7 being solid.

>>275907042

Bad timing bro.
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>>275906637
Well that's not why I don't like it. I didn't start with SD but I didn't hate it when it came out either. I like each of the games for different reasons.
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>>275906728
>Mario and Luigi (handholdy as shit)

Please remove those nostalgia goggles. In Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga the tutorials are frequently longer than the areas that follow them:

e.g.

>Starshade Bros jumping tutorial takes much longer than it does to collect 90 coins and fight the first boss.
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>rune factory 4
>weak
I bet you waifued margaret
>>
3DS really must be shitty if godawful sequels like Triple Deluxe are considered solid.
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>>275904652
Well, yeah, but to the point where not even E4 members don't have full teams? Come on.
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>>275906687
I honestly don't think she looks bad, the nigger male protag though. Why is he even black it doesn't make fucking sense.
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>>275899905
>Weak entry
Awakening was fine, Shadow Dragon was an awful remake. Learn your Fire Emblem.

I'm sick of seeing this shit in /v/, you are the only place in the internet who has a hate boner for this particular game.
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>>275907334
>awful remake

are you fucking retarded it's one of the better NES remakes ever made
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>if I disagree with it, it's a meme

I hate this shit counter-"argument" that everyone is suddenly using
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>>275907043

You're an idiot, see

>>275907142
>>275906516
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>>275906625
You said it first, why don't you prove it? Prove the old trainers had more personality. Oh, you can't, because it not true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWKCvRvKRgc
Notice how nearly every trainer before was "I'm standing here, being an NPC", and all the newer ones strike poses that reflect their personalities.
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>>275907162
>it balaces out

Not really.

First of all, Luna+ makes it impossible to build a conventional team because of shit like Hawkeye, so there's no way you can make a normal squad. It limits your options so you just end up with some sort of Sol tanker by Endgame. That's not fun or strategically rewarding. Bullshit stats/bullshit stats isn't what I like. I had to think more on FE10's 3-13 than I did on most Awakening maps. It feels more like Disgaea than Fire Emblem, and I don't like that.
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>>275899905
>Pokemon
>M&L:Dream Team
>PL&PW
>3DLand
>Solid

Jesus anon, they were probably one of the worst of each respective series

As for MK7, it was an ok game, it was really a downgrade from MKDS, one of the best MK in my opinion
Kid Icarus doesn't belong there though, the franchise has nothign to do with it besides the IP
As well as PQ, since it is an EO spinoff
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>>275899905

You're an idiot.
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>>275907238

I'm not sure what your point is.
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>>275907527
>muh snaking

Fuck off.
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>>275899905
Saw pokemon x on the solid side and just came in to tell you whoever made this pic is a humongous faggot
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>>275906728
I honestly agree with you aside from NSMB2, because to me it feels like the worst NSMB game to date, the story mode feels out of place. As all levels are designed around the coin rush mode.

But perhaps I'm being too critical, I'd probably say the same thing about NSMB1 if I were to replay it.
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>>275899905
>Resident Evil: Revelations
>Solid entry
It was practically RE4: Corridors Edition. I'll take the Gears of War clones that were RE5 and 6 any day.
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>>275906931
>>275907297

I concede I may be remembering Mario and Luigi more fondly than it actually deserves.
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>>275906879
>Triple Deluxe
>bad in any way
And the rest of your post is now irrelevant.
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>>275907249
>implying

Get fucked, autist. Not everyone has shit taste like you.
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>>275907334
>awful remake

Play FE1 and then say that. It isn't Zero Mission but SD is a good game. Every FE is good.
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>>275904652

Where did he say that?
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>>275907584
>I'm a casual!

No, you fuck off.
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>>275907238
Even worse than before.
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>>275907630
>I will take action shit over a proper RE game
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>>275899905
>Pokemon ORAS and Mario Tennis Open
>bad in any way

If you're trying to bait, you're doing a great job.
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>>275907238
>actually implying World Tour is worse than previous golf games

Go away
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>>275907638
>liking any Kirby games

Get out, underaged.
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>>275907584
besides snaking, which was actually a good thing, it had more content than 7 in the form of challenges, single cartrdige multiplayer and ROB and Waluigi were the best characters of all time
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>>275907245
>it's a hardware problem
Dude, the game was made specifically for 3ds, if they couldn't get it to work they either shouldn't have released it or they should expect critism on that point.
The controls are a hardware problem, but the entire game is shit due to hardware related things, you can't expect me to be positive about a fighting game on a handheld, unless you enjoy singleplayer experience.

SF4, DOA, Tekken are all on 3ds as-well, and all of them are weak entries in their respective franchise no matter how in denial you are.

If 40 bucks is an investment to you stop buying games.
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>>275907496
Of course FE10 made you think more, it's a harder game overall. I'm not saying that Awakening is hard, we already established that we both think it's an easier entry.

As it happens, I love both Disgaea and FE, so I guess there's that. I liked that FE was getting a little Disgaea, just for a game or two (since Gaiden was similarly grindy)
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>>275907638
>Kirby
>good

Maybe in elementary school mate, but I want challenge in my games, kirby just doesn't make it for me
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>>275907758
>proper RE game
Which Revelations wasn't. It was another chapter-based TPS, but watered down for 3DS.
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>>275907415

Stop using this "every time someone mentions a meme, it's not a meme, meme."
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>>275907479
>comparing sprites to 2D art
nice song though, very generic but it's catchy so I'm not mad.
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>>275899905
>>275907238
>having shit tastes in gaming

Just get out. You give 3DS owners a bad name.
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>>275903726
But the game has been released in yurop last thursday.
I started playing it, it isn't much different from RF3 and it looks kinda ugly for the 3DS.
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>>275907527
>>M&L:Dream Team
You fucked up. It's the best in the franchise.
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>>275907334

>Awful Remake

Have you even played the original?
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>>275907584
>snaking is the only thing in MKDS

No it's not, you fucking maroon. Maybe you should actually play the game before shitposting

In any case, MKDS is better than MK7. It's a fact..
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>>275908052
>but I want challenge in my games
Then you made a mistake by avoiding Kirby games. Actually, you're probably far too shit to handle True Arena in any of the games that have it.
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>>275907312

The earlier games have E4 with 5 Pokémon or 6 sometimes, except their movesets(along with the Gym Leaders) are complete crap even for the game they're in.

The modern games give the E4 movesets that are similar to competitive ones so they have fewer Pokémon to compensate, e.g.

Wiebold has a Gyrados with:
-Waterfall
-Dragon Dance
-Ice Fang
-Earthquake

Lance(gen 3) has a Gyarados with:
-Bite(special)
-Dragon Rage
-Twister
-Hyper Beam

Siebold's set is near standard, Lance's is stupidity with his only physical move being hyper beam and no STAB.
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>>275908130
It's superstar saga with tilt minigames, the only decent thing was the last fight which was basicall QTE fight

>>275908264
>b-but kirby is hard, i s-swear!
Delution at it's best
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>>275908052
>b-b-but you can just retry if you lose even 1 health don't fault the game for giving you options
I agree though, it's still slow as shit, at least the more rehashed Kirby's are not worht playing, I did enjoy me some Mass Attack and Canvas Curse though, trying to gold medal all the stages was tough. Still most kirby games are slow as shit, I like them, but I'd never defend 40 bucks for a rehash.
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>people finally realizing MKDS was the best in the series I haven't played 8

Where have you people been? I've been so alone.
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>>275908374
>which was basicall QTE fight

And Superstar Saga is filled with QTEs. What is your point?

Bro moves are QTE
Dodging are QTE
>>
Add X and ALBW to the other side and its perfect.

X had a plethora of problems and ALBW should have been on Hero mode by default
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>>275908382
don't get me wrong, Canvas Curse is fucking great, but ever since super star ultra, the kirby games have been lackluster in my opinion

that epic yard and wii remake were fucking awful in my opinion
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>>275903726
I am a european bro and I always craved for the game. You dont pretend to hate the stuff just because its not aviable to you.
Thats borderline retarded..
If this was the work of an european, than it was most likly a fucking britbong
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>>275899905
>>275905995
>>275907238

Fixed, anyone who says otherwise is automatically wrong.
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>>275908385
I'm always here bro

That one voice who keeps saying CTR and MKDS are the epitome of fun cart videogames, only to be disregarded by MK8fags
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>>275908451
no, bro moves and dodgins aren't quick time events

a quick time even is you sliding your stylus across the screena and then see Luigi beating the shit out of bowser
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>>275908001
Yeah, and while I like building stuff up too, it just killed the replay value for me. Great game overall, looking forward to what comes next.
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>>275907638

You want an actual good Kirby game, go play Super Star Ultra.

That's the game TD wishes it could be.
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>>275908691
>smash bors for 3Ds worse than brawl
>Monster hunter 3 Ultimate worse than Monster Hunter 3
>A link between worlds worse than 2 or phantom hourglass
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>>275908616
Yarn was never meant to be a Kirby game though, it was just Nintendo influencing games.

I agree with you though. But that's a thing that happens with games in general, the best ones are the new IPs.
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>>275907960
>the entire game is shit due to hardware related things.

Just say that you hate 3DS already.
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>>275908830
>no, bro moves and dodgins aren't quick time events

Are you retarded?

>HURRY, PRESS A BEFORE MARIO LANDS ON LUIGI OR ELSE THE MOVE FAILS!
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>>275907634
>I concede I may be remembering Mario and Luigi more fondly than it actually deserves.

The games do need the handholding though and it's not a flaw.

They could very well be a kids first game due to the ratings and the overword/"action" sections are a lot more complex with more puzzles and interactions than standard JRPGs. Also it's needed for those in denial who actually do need guidance, you see a lot of complaints about Sticker Star for being "too cryptic" from people who'd criticize the game for being handholdy
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>>275899905
>FE:A
>Weak

List was flawed from the start.
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>>275909050
Im ok with this.
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>>275909136
You were flawed from your start if that's your opinion.

FE:A is a shit Fire Emblem game.
>>
>XY solid while ORAS was weak
>Rune Factory 4 anything but the best Rune Factory
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>>275909136
>LOL THARJA IS MY WAIFU RIGHT?!
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>>275908691
I made a contrary post earlier in the thread but sometimes I'm almost with you. 3DS games feel like they want to be console games so bad, and you know they'd be fuller experiences on a Wii U, hell some don't even feel as full as a Gamecube game. I really feel the DS was a stronger system and that in time the 3DS library will not have aged well.
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>>275909173

No it's not, it's the boldest game they've released in years.

People criticize Nintendo and IS for keeping their games the same but then when IS changes Fire Emblem and Paper Mario they get attacked for experimenting with new ideas.
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>>275905634
storywise sure, but it had a pretty decent puzzle selection compared to diabolical box and unwound future.
layton vs. AA had some of the easiest puzzles i'd ever seen. i was pretty upset when i got to the end and found out i'd completed all of them.
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>>275909047
No, I love my 3ds. I've like 50+ games for it. But fighting games don't work on it, period. Mario Kart works because it basically doesn't require a fast internet connection, but with that many inputs, you want no lag at all.

If you really think you can play it on the go multiplayer without being able to connect to a TV, then I still would rather play anything else.

Same reason FPS games don't work on consoles without auto-aiming anon. Same reason why RTS games don't work on consoles, that doesn't mean I hate my console. I play games, a lot, enough to not approve of a turd just because it manages to runs on awful hardware that wasn't made for the game.
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>>275909080
Oh, I'm guessing super mario bros is filled with QTE too because you need to press the jump button to jump, amirite?

We better call games like Legend of Dragoon QTE RPGs
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>>275909050
>TD and MK7

Bait, entire image disregarded.
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>>275909261
Great meme nerdtron.
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>>275909392
Maybe because their new ideas are shit and poorly executed?
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>>275909392
>2 of the dlc chapters are basically the end of the story
>you don't get to see the end unless you buy dlc
yeah that wasn't ok
>>
>Persona Q
>solid
>first person shit
>no social links
>map shit
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>>275909050
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>>275909648
>WAAAH WAAAH WHY IS PERSONA NOT MY USUAL WEEBSHIT DATING SIM VN!??!
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did a few at once. no art, but wikipedia list
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>X and Y in solid
>ORAS in weak
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>>275909740
>lets take out the elements that are the staple of the series
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>>275909648
it was equally upsetting seeing an etrian game come out with shit tier battle animations and story
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>>275909756

The shitposting here is strong.
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>>275909756
>spirit tracks
>weak
lol
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>>275909756
>the lost levels
>weak

Git gud, faggot.
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>>275909831
>>275909740

to be fair Persona 1 and 2 were like this
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>>275909050
>>275909756

LOL
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>>275909890
You think those faggot weeaboo Personafags have ever touched those games?

All they care about is their autistic self-insert visual novel to date their generic shitty waifus
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>>275909647
>2 of the dlc chapters are basically the end of the story.

Are you stupid or something? That DLC is a completely different self-contained time line and what happens there has zero impact on the main story.
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>>275901241
You didn't like the oracle games?
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>>275909890
Whatever, not even Atlus have those two on their site since 3 was a reboot.
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>>275909756
>lost levels
>original Metroid
>spirit tracks

>weak

>Galaxy
>super princess peach
>mario paint
>Skyward Sword

>solid
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>>275908996
it says weak, not weakest.
>>
>Feels: gates of infinity is a bad entry

wait, what, how?
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>>275899905
>RF4
nigger get out
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>>275899905
Lost world 3DS and we're good

Unleashed is worse though. Much worse
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>>275909756
forgot to say anything i didn't list i haven't personally played
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>>275910038
they even remade 1 and 2 you faggot
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>>275909647
If you're referring to the alternate world DLC that was only released over half a year later in response to how successful the game was, no that wasn't some kind of extra ending.
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I liked Sonic Lost Worlds
>>
I really hope that this is a joke thread and that no one actually thinks this shit is true.
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>>275899905
>RF4
>Weakest entry

Nigga, what? It's the best in the series by far.
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>>275899905
I enjoyed FE: Awakening.
>>
What'd wrong with EO untold? Probably my second favorite in the series
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>>275910171
http://p-ch.jp/title/
Suck my dick.
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>>275905546
>they're still weak compared to HGSS and BW/BW2.
Of course they're gonna be weak if you compare them to the best Pokemon games anon.
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>>275910201
You have horrible taste and low standards
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>>275910270
Hardly

crafting is a pain in the ass and harvesting has never been more casual
>>
>>275905731
Good redesigns.
>Winona
>Courtney
>Liza
>....
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>Mario Kart 7
Was legitimately better than Wii but now that 8 is out it's incredibly underwhelming and a worse game in every way
>Dark Moon
Better animations but the entire game is worse and more repetitive than the original
>3D Land
See Mario Kart 7 except replace 8 with 3D World
>Professor Layton vs PW
It's a mix of both games and yet it does neither well
>Mario Golf World Tour
The first handheld Mario Golf without a solid RPG mode, BRAVO NINTENDO
>Persona Q
Etrian Odyssey ripoff with none of the charm of either series
>Pokemon X
No endgame, single player is boring and easy, silky smooth 10 fps, etc.
>>
>ITT: Shit taste and no standards
>>
>>275900579
Its the shortest pokemon game and has the least amount of content of any pokemon game.
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>>275910517
>and more repetitive than the original

Fuck off.

The entirety of the original was
>suck ghosts
>lit room
>get key
>go to next room

It's the most fucking repetitive shit ever.

Dark Moon had plenty of variation.
>>
>>275910474
Crafting is easy as shit, and you can max it in just a few hours by forging lvl1 swords and shields and upgrading them to max with scrap metal.
Upgrading always gives your exp a % boost instead of a fixed amount, so its piss easy to max forging and crafting.
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>>275909853
it's weak because it's too hard. get bent
>>275910075
metroid is hard, confusing, too labyrinthine
spirit tracks was too different
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>>275908691
Thanks for saving my time.
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>>275910654
>Implying dark mooon didn't have just like 5 different ghosts reskinned times 10
>Implying even thoguh the first was short, the second is unnecesarily long, shit got boring after the 3rd mansion

Although I liked multiplayer in dark moon, too bad nintendo connection enever lasted for more than 12 floors
>>
>>275910713

What a disgusting casual
just go to tumblr where everyone agrees with your opinion you fag
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>>275899905
>Lost World
>Weak
Sometimes I wonder how many games /v/ actually plays
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>>275910648

Nice bait, but that's the original games themselves.
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>>275910887
>>Implying dark mooon didn't have just like 5 different ghosts reskinned times 10

compared to the original having the same ghosts in different colors and size?
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>>275900581
No, it's a weak entry because it casualizes and removes mechanics from previous games.
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>>275911041
so you didn't play the original?
there were a shitton of ghosts
well, shitton is just an exaggeration, but you get my point
>>
>XY in strong while ORAS is weak
>SMT IV weak
>>
>>275910474
So exactly like RF3 then?
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>>275910318
it sucked for people who are completionists since the only way to map 100% of the dungeon was to do that crappy story mode.
>>
Dark Moon's mission layout kills any sense of atmosphere the first game had, and making the mansions cut off depending on which mission you're on was retarded. If you're gonna have the game split up into 5 mansions, don't further split that up by only allowing you to explore certain parts per mission, it makes the entire experience more braindead with no upside.
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>>275908691
>mk7
>weak
I'm okay with this
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>>275910965
sorry i like games that are fun
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>>275910517
>It's a mix of both games and yet it does neither well
it did a decent job with AA in my opinion and the presentation was nice. however, i'd label it as the worst layton game.
>>
>>275906687
Brendan's redesign is so ugly I played as May and I do my best to avoid any encounter with him
Is the image in the bottom right avoidable?
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>>275911279

It was designed for pick up and play so the 3DS can compete with smartphone games.

If you want one made for longer play sessions you should probably hope they make a WiiU Luigi's Mansion.
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>>275911442
>fun
>not subjective
>implying you're not a casual for not liking games that actually require you to get gud
>Implying you're not my bitch
>Implying you're not Krillin and I'm Broly

OH but it's FUN guys, it's fine :^)
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>Awakening
>weak
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>>275911739
it's not that i don't like difficult games, i just can't get around metroid not having a map. there's no reason for it. also restarting after dying with only 30 health is ridiculous.

lost levels i can't deal with because there's just unnecessary challenge everywhere in that game.
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>>275899905


SOLID/WEAK "ENTRIES IN SERIES"
NOT IF GAME IS GUD OR NOT

>RF4 one of best in series don't put in weak unless you've played it

>Poke x ORAS , decent games not as good as ones before.
>X introduced many new features although having flaws such as frame rate and little after game
>AS was great but not a solid title as others (i wanted it to be good but missing many things and feels slower than x), and was a remake of great games but not itself that amazing as a whole
>Persona Q not as good as others in series
>ML DT not bad game but not as good as predescesors
>Luigi's mansion only two in series can't tell but decent game
>smash not as good as others in series
>MK7 not as good as others in series particullarly mkds
>tennis was not good
>mario 3d, portable 3d mario that is 'somewhat decent'
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>>275911769
>Awakening
>strong
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>>275910975
For a remake it has fuckall for content.
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>>275912074
Well, it's the best game in the series, so yes.
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>>275904672
On the right you should put black and white 1.
I dont know why people hate BW2 when it's what the first BW should have been in every way
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>>275912074
>Awakening
>Weak
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>>275912132
this is bait right
>>275912376
you cannot reasonably say that awakening was a strong entry in the franchise, which is the point of the OP
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>>275912132
>better than Gaiden, Holy War, Thracia, PoR, or RD
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>>275912112
>online
>updated secret bases
>X and Y's features
>many more Pokemon to actually use
>much better swimming mechanics and less random water encounters
>infinite TMS

Yep, sure has fuckall.
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>>275912464
>>275912483
Best character designs, best music, fun and memorable characters, being able to create your own tactician, fun and good looking combat.

It's the best.
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>>275899905
Awakening is really solid entry in it's franchize. It's the Marriage system done well, plus it's one of the hardest games if you don't grind, and Lunatic is very fun without DLC. People really graps for the straws to hate this game, by comparing it to other games in the franchise they probably haven't played.

SMT IV is also really good, it's probably the only game in the franchise so far to treat the alignments well since SMT 2 on the Super Famicom, plus it has a lot of content.
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>>275912464
>you cannot reasonably say that awakening was a strong entry in the franchise, which is the point of the OP

You can't say it's not a strong entry considering how many entries are just carbon copies where it's a unique quality entry in almost every regard.
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Out of what I've played, there's only 4 I disagree with.

>FE
>ORAS
>Lost World
>MK7

I understand how long time FE fans may not like awakening, but I don't think that makes it a bad game.

Only thing to be legit mad at Gamefreak for is still basically requiring you to have an HM slave.

Lost World wasn't boost to win and tried to have actual platforming. When it comes to Sonic, people have a very hard time telling challenge from poor design.

Everything I don't like about Mario Kart was pretty much in my face the entire time. That item "balance" is horrific.
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>>275912483
>gaiden
>good

the only thing gaiden did right was maybe inspire the open world map for 8 and awakening

it is otherwise a bad game
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>>275912674
He's just bad there is no Battle Frontier.
I understand ORAS is a great remake in so many ways.
But to remove something so vital, I love oras as much as the next guy but what the fuck was gamefreak thinking.
Still a great game, way better than XY.
It would have just been perfect with a Frontier Bran battles with co-op opportunities like in Soul Silver
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>>275912674

Exactly.

People all seem to quote the lack of content but the only answers to it see my be


>Battle Frontier
>Gym leader rematches

Neither if which I care about with the introduction if online battles.

I enjoy playing through the main game then the post game is all about breeding new 'mons, making teams and battling online. The AI in Pokémon games isn't very good most of the time so any extra content based on battles against them is pointless in my opinion.
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>>275912708
Best character designs goes to the Tellius games, best music is Radiant Dawn easily, characters are decent, MU is broken shit and was handled much better in FE12 anyways. Combat does indeed look good

Too bad it has an ass-backwards plot, shitty lord, removed a lot of pretty good mechanics, introduced Pair Up and infinite reclassing/levelling to break the game to pieces, and has the single worst difficulty mode I've ever seen in a game.
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>>275912708
>best character designs
an opinion. awakening has rather typical character designs if anything, looking at the rest of the series
>best music
again an opinion.
>fun and memorable characters
yeah, as fun and memorable as you can get in a fire emblem game where everyone is one dimensional as fuck
>being able to create your own tactician
is not a new feature. the tactician in awakening is also very poorly executed because it's basically a self insert badass that is also literally god
>fun and good looking combat
the animations are total shit compared to earlier entries, both 2D and 3D, and the gameplay itself is fucking pathetic for a fire emblem. while most other FE games have "route the enemy" as your average objective, that's all Awakening has. it's just kill,kill,kill, no defense, no strategy, no interesting map design, nothing
hell the pair-up system is some of the most broken shit in the franchise and the children can also be manipulated to be OP as fuck
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I like Awakening, Dual destinies, smt IV and EO:U
I don't like Professor Layton vs ace attorney, kid icarus uprising and Persona Q
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I liked lost world
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>>275899905
>XY strong
>ORAS weak

Shit taste
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>>275913204
>Raiden
>Naked
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>>275913121
>The children can also be manipulated to be OP as fuck

If you think that's true you probably think Amelia, Wendy, Sofia, Nino are good units. Go pretend to know what strategy is elsewhere please.
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>>275913204

I like it
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>>275912998

The thing is they didn't remove it. It wasn't in the entries in the series and it wasn't in the original Ruby or Sapphire. These games are remakes of those games, not Emerald.

Plus, GF know how popular it is and put the teaser in Battle Resort that it was in the process of being built (something which was not in the original games.)

That suggests that it may be coming in the future, either by DLC or in the next game.
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>>275913204
:)
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>>275900767
And Omega Ruby is excluded from those then?
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>>275913302
>galeforce is balanced
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>>275913121
>the tactician in awakening is also very poorly executed because it's basically a self insert badass that is also literally god
I wish, that sounds more like FE12's avatar, except he wasn't a god he was just that badass. And besides he had too much of a personality to be a self-insert.

>the animations are total shit compared to earlier entries
That's, like, your opinion. You exaggerate on how good the GBA sprites were. They were elaborate and over the top yes, but they weren't that fantastic.

>hell the pair-up system is some of the most broken shit in the franchise
and to make up for it, Lunatic mode gives you much more than enough reasons to use it, unless you're a bitch and used DLC.
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Why do people like Super Mario 3D Land and 3D World so much? They're really not that good. The perspective and the way Mario controls is the biggest problem. 3D Mario games should control like SM64, Sunshine and Galaxy.

There's also something else that I can't quite place, but I know it's wrong. I think it has something to do with the speed of the game / the characters. It just feels slower in comparison to every other Mario game. Even New Super Mario Bros. 2 felt better.
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>>275912867
A weak FE isn't a bad game.
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>>275899905

>sonic stuff
>Weak entries

they're bad games yeah but if every game in the series is bad how can they be singled out as weak entries?
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>>275907323
>black
He's tan, you shit. He lives in Hoenn, which is a tropical region.
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>>275913583
GBA sprites were good because you know, sprite art is generally perfected at this point.
Other 3D animated Fire Emblem's like on the GC or Wii also looked pretty good.

Awakening's map models are great, but the in combat animation is poor as fuck, have you seen their fucking feet?
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>>275908996

I don't understand how you can be this stupid.

No one is saying the game is better than Brawl.

1. It says "weak", not "weakest"
2. It's a list if 3D games so of course brawl isn't going to be here.

Jesus, the amount of people in this thread who can't read or see properly is staggering.
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>>275914224

Sorry, meant worse than brawl. My bad.
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>Rune Factory 4
>Weak
It's the best Rune Factory so far.
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>>275912674
>online
Can't wait to play this megaquazas or 3vs3 singles, yeah really fun
>secret bases
Yeah
>X/Y's features
You mean character customization?
>more Pokemon
So i guess X and Y are the GOAT Pokemon games
>much better swimming mechanics and less random water encounters
Repels have always existed for a reason, and "swimming mechanics"? What the fuck is the that? The only game with bad surfing was Diamond/Pearl
>infinite TMs
You couldn't think of anything else?
I loved my playtrough, but I don't want to beat the Maison again, fuck that, maybe I'll breed some Mons, but for what purpose?
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>>275913529
>>275913529
>galeforce is balanced

It is a level 15 skill on a class that's not ideal for the two characters who can promote right to it.

A player realistically shouldn't get to make good use it(getting Sumia or Cordelia to level 15 promoted) until near the end of the game at which point all your characters are powerful or if you're grinding at where the stats you'll get levelling up for galeforce render the skill meaningless in the main story you'll destroy everything even without it.
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Swap EO4 and EOU. 4 is easily the weakest game in the series.
Move Pokemon X to weak, because it is.
Move Smash 4 to weak.
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>>275914458
>anything topping 1


maybe i'm just getting old and cynical, though
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>>275909756

Tumblr casual, the post.
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>>275913364
The thing is, even though Soul Silver was a remake of Silver and Gold, they included everything the crystal exclusive had AND the Battle Frontier of Sinnoh.
I really hope it comes by DLC because having it in their next game just feels so cheap of them to do. But I wouldn't put it past them
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>>275899905
>Revelations
lol, it's not even good on PC
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>>275913753
>have you seen their fucking feet
it's an art-style and liking 2D sprites at all is rather subjective. You can't even see faces, nor distinguish units outside of the general pallete of the unit.

You can't say you dislike 3D animations of Awakening and like 3D animations of PoR, in PoR they just moved stiff and awkwardly. In Radiant Dawn was where they got the hand of it, which was done on a console not a handheld meant to display two different images of the models.
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SMT4 was a very solid entry, Pokemon X meanwhile is pretty universally agreed as a really weak one.
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>>275899905
>Mario Kart 7
>solid

God no, that game was a crock of shit and somehow worse than Double Dash.
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>>275900675
>shallow
I stopped reading right there. You really need to pull your head out of your ass. It's just a Mario game, dude.
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>SMT IV in weak
>Dream Team in strong

Having XY and ORAS in different categories also doesn't make much sense. They should both be weak.
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>>275913603

I liked 3D Land because of the nostgia to be totally honest.

I'm not going to say it was "OMG BEST GAME EVER" and I wouldn't say I'm blinded by nostalgia; I liked it because it reminded me of the earlier games. I would call it decent at best but wouldn't say it was bad.
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>>275902910
I 100% the game in 13.5 hours, compared to other mario games it's fucking nothing
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>>275915798

I completed the original on about 1 hour.
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>>275915798
also the music was totally meh
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>>275915798
I 100% SMW in 3 hours.
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>>275916163
compared to the other 3D games I mean
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You should make a "great entries" as well, for games that actually stood out. MH4U, Kid Icarus, EOIV and ALBW could be there.

Awakening is solid by the way, not weak.
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>>275916365
3D Mario is it's own franchise.

Not 2D Mario, not "3D Mario"

3D Land was never supposed to be the successor of Galaxy because it's the 3D franchise, not the Super Mario franchise.
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ALBW was weak. It was easy and forgettable.
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>>275916921
>It was easy
Every Zelda ever

>and forgettable.
DS Zeldas, Minish Cap and Oracles were far more forgettable.
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>>275908385
But 8 is good, just different. MKDS prob has the most depth though, but why play a game based around rubber banding mechanics on a comp level? This isn't even Smash Bros, this is Mario Party levels. I can understand Smash.
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>>275917002
>implying the ds zeldas were forgettable
Entirely forced and shitty touch screen controls make them memorable for how fucking terrible they were.
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>>275913718
>he lives in Hoenn
He moves from Jotho you shit, have you not played the games? Also May doesn't seem to have that issue, or any other characters in the game, he's black despite not having lived his entire life in Jotho.
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>>275916749
>not Super Mario
>called SUPER MARIO 3D LAND

Come on.
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>>275917002
>every Zelda ever
no

>so were all the handheld titles
That's because all of those games suck.
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>>275917258
>SUPER MARIO 64
>SUPER MARIO Sunshine
>SUPER MARIO Galaxy

>SUPER MARIO 3D Land
>SUPER MARIO 3D World
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>>275917258
I guess Super Mario World 2 and Super Mario Land 3 are part of the main series.
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doesn't matter what series it's in, it's too short and it's pretty much impossible to die before the last 4 levels
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>X/Y
>solid
>OR/AS
>weak

you got that backwards
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>>275917258
It doesn't play like the main Super Mario games.
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is the Pokemon mystery dungeon series worth playing? I was thinking in playing the explorers of the sky game, but I am a little reluctant to because i remember playing the red rescue team and thought the combat was inexistent or at least badly implemented
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>>275918630
>i remember playing the red rescue team and thought the combat was inexistent or at least badly implemented
that's what all rouguelike game feel like.
The 3DS mystery dungeon is the same, just with 3d models
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>>275918630

Explorers of Sky is pretty much the same game.
It's gonna sound weird, but it's worth playing for the story.
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>>275918741
so, you play exclusively for the story? I think i am going to read more about the gameplay to see the appeal.
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>>275899905
>x/y
>solid

>awakening
>weak

>kid icarus
>franchise

Get your head out of your ass.
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>>275900579
It crushed the dreams of Emeraldfags everywhere, while people ignore the features such as dexnav and route flying that actually improved the fanchise as a whole.
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>>275919574
You do gotta admit that there is no reasonable excuse to not include BF, I mean, HG/SS had one and neither gold/silver/crystal had one, it was most probably lazyness or the team getting rushed to launch the game on the holidays.
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>>275902610
The first game, while short, had great atmosphere and non-repetitive gameplay, while dark moon felt like a bad saturday morning cartoon with repetitive missions and no portrait ghosts to flesh out the ghosts' histories. I liked the dark beam, though.
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>>275919052
The games are fun IF you like rouguelike games
Izuma Legend of Unemployed ninja games are another example.
There was also a Dragon Quest spinoff that was rouguelike
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>>275899905
Pokemon X was weak
Persona Q was weak
3Dland was weak
Rune Factory was alright but not strong
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>>275899905
>this gets posted
>people suggest changes
>op never makes any of the changes

This has to bait at this point.
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>>27591999
True, and while I do feel the game was rushed and having the BM instead of BF was plain lazy design, the new features could make up for it if it's not just a one time thing. It makes the core mechanics actually fun instead of 100% random chances and having to back track to every secret base, etc.
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>>275899905
Move Smash, Pokemon X and Mario 3D Land to the right and I'll agree with you.
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>>275899905

Awakening is second best FE game so I disagree.
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>>275921018

What's wrong with Gates to Infinity?
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Dream Team haters are disgusting

>HURR TUTORIALS
I get the feeling that half of you haven't actually played the game. Its just as good at Bowser's Inside Story
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>>275899905

Literally just swap both lists around
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>Smash Bros 3DS
>a strong entry in the franchise
It has less extras than fucking Melee
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>>275921018
I can agree with this.
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Dual Destiny is better than Layton VS Wright
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>>275899905
>Rune factory 4
>weak

Well, I knew you were a fag, OP, but this is a bit too much.
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>>275921616
They're both much better than AA2 or Apollo Justice
They definitely deserve "solid" status
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>>275899905
>People hate Awakening.
I fucking loved the old fire emblems and Awakenings, it was different and casualized but it wasn't bad.
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>>275908096
what are you talking about, that 2d art is what appears in game? the sprites are what appear in game in the original?

it's not the 3ds' fault it can handle graphics the gba couldn't
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>Lost World
>weak
It was a lot better than just about every other 3D Sonic game. It tried something new, giving more control to Sonic with more emphasis on platforming, and it worked. The problem was some sloppy game design that didn't complement at all and a rehashed final boss from Colors.
Everything else was great though. Looked great, amazing soundtrack.

The rail levels were some of the best.
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>>275900139
>revelations
>good
Best part was staring at Jill's fat ass.
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Why was Yoshi's Island 3DS so horrible anyway? I thought Artoon went bankrupt
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>>275913753
>muh feet
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>>275921970
the 2D art looks bad from a 2D art perspective.

The sprites look good from a sprite perspective.

I know technically both are sprites.
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>>275921018
new super mario bros. 2 is solid even if it isn't as good as wii u. i think it's on par with wii and stronger than ds which is the weakest.

dream team is just bad though imo.

oras should be solid because even if it's xy in a different region it makes some fixes and introduces a lot of new cool features.

awakening is a solid game. so is smt iv.

miracle mask is better than azran legacy. i would swap the 2.

>>275922313
I played it and it's just really boring. I don't really know how to describe it over than that. I didn't dislike but I didn't have fun playing it.
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What's wrong with rune factory 4?
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Is there any good 3DS Sonic game?

inb4 ALL SONIC GAMES ARE LE BAD XDD
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>>275922825
All Sonic games are bad.
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>>275922825

well if you already know the answer, why ask?
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>>275922657
NSMBW and NSMBU barely scrape into solid territory

Everything about NSMB2 was rehashed to shit, and the soundtrack reached critical BAH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXskX4QFiAU
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>>275922903
>>275922985
Because it's a nice meme.
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>>275899905
So you're telling me, that all the rehashes are solid entries, but all the games with new ideas and gameplay styles are weak entries?
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>>275922313
Nintendo bailed them out, helped them form a new studio called Azrest and put them to work on YNI.

I don't understand why Ninty is so in love with Artoon. Its baffling
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>>275922825
sonic generations is good

it also contains levels that weren't in the non-3DS versions so it's worth playing for that reason as well
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