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Now that western gaming media is supporting censorship It's the best time to say fuck you and switch to japanese games. Let me start asking what are some good japanese games for PC?
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Devil May Cry 4. Valkyria Chronicles. I can't think of many others.
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>>275532670
>>DMC4
I think I'm going to start with that one.
I never saw V.C.. Is it a RPG?
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>>275532670
This. I'm a pretty anti-pc pc-fag for this reason. The only people making PC games are western guys, and they ALL suck. I'm not even weeaboo, I'm just objectively speaking, the best video games come out of Japan. Westerners can barely make optimized normal code, let alone games that run half as smooth as a Japanese game. Which is hilarious cause the Japanese can't be original even to save their own lives. All of their shit is just stolen from someone else.
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>>275532874
Strategy RPG.
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>>275532874
turn based stealthan shooter
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Thanks guys!
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>the sex workers allegory

pls, prostitutes are safer in states/countries where it is legal than in countries where it is illegal.
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I'm just glad Jim Sterling left Destructoid.

Also, what does western gaming media have to do with western games?
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Rockstar isn't going to bow down to them

Also Australia a shit, just be glad they have the game at all. Saints Row 4 and Mortal Kombat were also banned there with GTAV chilling at Gamespot and other stores.
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>Jonathan Holmes
They made that whackjob the head of Destructoid?!
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>>275532479
I'm curious, is there any other area of interest on this planet where the broad costumer base is that much at odds with the people who cover their interests? Do gearheads or whoever have to put up with the same kind of shit that gamers do?
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>>275534404
Wouldn't sex workers imply they are doing it legally? Prostitutes aren't legal so can't really be sex workers unless they escort or in Vegas.
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How did this guy get on Russia Today?
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>>275532878
Here's the reply you wanted.
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>>275534447
Because of the press+devs hugbox. The indie sector is almost all fucked up and it's a matter of time until the AAA industry gets hit hard.
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>>275532479
>Tekken 7
FOR FUCK'S SAKE, IT'S NOT THE FEMINIST MAD ABOUT LUCKY CHLOE, IT'S TEKKEN FANS WHO CAN'T ADMIT TO THEMSELVES THAT THEY ARE GAY!

AND EVEN THE TEKKEN COMMUNITY IS JUST SPLIT ON CHLOE (IF THAT), NOT WHOLLY AGAINST HER!
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>>275534639
Sex worker is the newspeak word for whore or prostitute.

In my country every time the government legislates to make the situation worse for prostitutes, prostitutes protest to ask for a legal status, and then hypocritical "feminists" on TV tell us that people who pay prostitutes are evil patriarchal bigots who consider women objects.
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>>275534576
>>275532479
>>275534959
back to faGGotchan.
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>>275532479
>jap games
>good
>not censored
>on PC
TOP KEK
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>>275534870
There will always be quality AAA devs like Bungie, Irrational, Naughty Dog, Rockstar, Valve, Chrystal Dynamics, Eidos Montreal, Volition, Blizzard, Sucker Punch, Insomniac, etc..

And those are just american studios.
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>>275535109
back to tumblr, SJW shill
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>>275534959
But prostitution ISN'T legal. Its done though pimps or on their own. So its not working and not even legal because Sex working would imply they work at an actual legal business.
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>>275535347
but if you make prostitution legal and give prostitutes a status you kill illegal prostitution.

Most governments in the world run on dirty money though so it ain't gonna happen
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>>275532479
>Thinks Japanese games will be safe from censorship.
They're not.
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>>275532479

Holy fuck man, how autistic about this shit can you get? 2 guys with shit opinions mean shit all.
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>>275535637

>Japan
>male dominated society
>women are brain washed now and convinced they are men with vaginas

anon please, japan is the safehaven for freedom of speech and ideas in video games
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>>275535109
...what kind of a person makes something like this? This is worse than all those pc faggots idolizing gaben!
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>>275535868
newfags wanting a new chanology and play pretend that they are warriors on an epic quest.
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>>275532479
Why do these guys equate morals with journalistic ethics? It's not the same thing and they know it
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>>275535845
Until they get localized and censored all to hell.
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>>275536274

how about you learn the language, move there, and play the games then you lazy cunt
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do you all remember? last year this game got 10/10s all over the board. everyone was loving it and hailing it as the best game of the year.

and now? one year later this game is disgusting, misogynistic and for sociopaths. what the fuck happend?
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>>275536778
It's really not worth learning Japanese just for games/anime/manga.

My friend is fluent in it and he talked me out of trying, he said it's a really poorly structured language compared to the other Asian ones and it takes an obscene amount of time to learn
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>>275536982
Gamergate happened.
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>>275535831
>2 guys with shit opinons
>one managing a major publication about the industry
>the other leading a notorious campaign against consumers and attempting to censor content
>this isn't even all the players in this racket

work on your analysis skills
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The game industry should just die already.
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>>275537071
So you are saying because people were unhappy with how 'journalist' are doing their work and treating there costumers games suddenly got shit
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>>275535831

You are pretty retarded, what happens when those two guys are the only opinions that are allowed? Oh wait that already happened
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>>275537384
>people were unhappy with how 'journalist' are doing their work and treating there costumers
lol no
gamergate is about misogyny and harssmwnt
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thy're right you know?
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>>275537639
strange
that's not how I remember it but isn't the truth always that what the majority of people believe
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Obscenities and pornography are not protected by rights in the vast majority of the world, California being one of the few exceptions.
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Because of gamergate, people finally realized that videogames really make gamers more violent and sexist.
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>>275537048
>My friend is fluent in it and he talked me out of trying, he said it's a really poorly structured language compared to the other Asian ones and it takes an obscene amount of time to learn

Your friend seems to talk shit out of his ass, because Japanese is no more or less poorly structered than any other language, but just alien to indoeuropean speakers. Not alien enough to get a good feeling for it, if you try, however. The only part of the language that is legitemately frustrating aspiring students of the language is the writing system, but the same can be said for any language that still uses Kanji in this day and age. Given today's electronic assistance, it's not even that much of a problem, but certainly the biggest hurdle. The language itself is not. Well, okay, maybe Japanese polite speech is fucked up, too, but as a gaijin you have the luxury of being allowed to ignore it for the most part.
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Where was Jonathan McIntosh on Madworld? Or Bulletstorm? Or is his thirst for attention only sated by the lowest hanging fruit
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Why aren't you learning Japanese yet?
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>>275538073
Sorry anon, but my friend is one of the few people who's opinion I respect just as much as my own, and since I also know for a fact he's fluent/studied it for years I'm going to trust his word over yours.
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>10 years ago
>some authoritarian shithead who had an actual law degree demands video games be censored because MUH VIOLENCE
>everyone calls him a faggot and eventually he fucks off

>present day
>some authoritarian shithead with a degree in sociology(cultural marxism) from a diploma mill demands video games be censored because MUH SOGGY KNEES
>everyone bows down and licks his cock because truly Glorious Leader is wisest of myn he is free of the Original Sin of Privilege; when the Frequency speaks we must obey.

I'M ONLY LAUGHING BECAUSE OTHERWISE I WOULD BE CRYING
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Why did they call them sex workers and not whores? And why should these persons should get any respect? They're fucked for easy money ffs. They give their pussies to any greasy, dirty old guy and suck any dick for a dollar.
Whores, plain and simple.
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>>275538856
>cultural marxism

Go back to /po.. oh right, you faggots were gassed. Why don't you go play with your buddies at that other chan?
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>>275539025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism

here, read up on this informative wikipedia article so you can inform yourself on the topic :^)
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>>275539025
Isn't it funny that you can't even say the the name of the other chan on here without being banned?
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>>275539169
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism

>Cultural Marxism is a pejorative term with links to the Frankfurt School conspiracy theory and alleges an organized and concerted effort on the part of Marxists to subvert the traditional Christian values and cultural norms of western society.

Ok, got it. Why are you pushing conspiracy theories on a video game board?
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>>275536982
>what the fuck happend?
Because of Gamergate, a lot of games media personalities have chosen to take a firm stand for their SJW buddies and their values, if they hadn't done so before. Being extra aggressive against anything non-SJW (like GTA) is their response to the people criticizing them for their SJW biases. They're basically displaying a "You're either with us, or against us" mentality, and will happily throw innocent bystanders like GTA under the bus to make an example.
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>>275538856
fuck off la
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>>275539281
>uncritically trusting wikipedia's liberal slant
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>>275539370
>and will happily throw innocent bystanders like GTA under the bus to make an example.

Except one thing they neglect is that GTA is one of the biggest franchises in videogames. People aren't going to listen to being told what they are and aren't allowed to play when that's concerned.
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you're right, japan will just censor your shit without even asking first.
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>>275539281
Huh, that's interesting. Isn't wikipedia an openly edited website? It's odd that, judging from the edit history, the old article would be purged and locked.

Well I guess you could always try to find reading materials on the subject. Cultural Marxism is just critical theory applied to society. But it doesn't seem to mirror Marx's depiction of class struggle at all. Rather, it seems to paint the problem as race rather than class, which is actually what Hitler gleaned from reading Marx, but applied in the opposite direction.

Anyways, amazon has some material available on the history of Cultural Marxism:
http://www.amazon.com/Cultural-Marxism-Postwar-Britain-Post-Contemporary/dp/0822319144

If you'd care to read a primer on Capital (you don't need to read Capital itself, unless you have a lot of free time) by any modern Marxist, you'd be able to really dig into the term rather than handwaving it away as a fairy tale.

It's odd though, that terms invented by these people seem to come out of fashion as soon as they hit the mainstream. Now Social Justice and Cultural Marxism have negative connotations, and despite being branded by their proponents, are being ridiculed as 'conspiracy theories' when only twenty years ago they were championing them.
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>>275539565
Well, I'm not saying they're successfully going to affect GTA, they probably won't. But they will shit on it anyway to prove that they're "on the right side of history" and so on.
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>>275532479
>Gaming is dead under feminism and "progressiveness"
>Sex and sexiness is a crime
>SOPA ver.2014 was passed

Liberals finally won.
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>>275538361
>tfw
It's slow but getting there.

I think I should be able to play an average level video game in about a year from now at this rate.
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>Sexualized depictions of women in video games is the cause for rape.
>Possible violence against hookers in video games is the cause for violence against hookers.

I don't even know what's going on anymore.
It's like, they realize they can't fix the real problem so they don't bother with it, opting out for the much easier alternative that allows them to pretend they are doing something.
These people are the definition of crazy.
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>>275539925
You're further ahead than me with vocab at least; my memory is almost irredeemable.
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>>275537312
Nah, games journalism and the AAA preorder DLC for your cod themed console industry should die
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>>275539025
Can't, it's being DDOS'd by the gov.
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Is this what it's always been about? Are they all secret Jack Thompsons who've only been playing the part of feminists to get their foot in the door?
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>>275532479

I am actually happy this is happening. I hope more journalist have great power to dictate what can be sold and what cant be sold. I hope they can censor whatever they like and bully developers. That way I can sit here and enjoy the fallout. Then when video games die developers will come crawling back asking for forgiveness and I can give them an inmense fuck you. All this anti consumer attitude, milking us, ignoring us and being overly friendly with their journo butt buddies was eventually going to bite them in the ass and is finally happening.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5Gnz8bLAkI
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>>275537384
Yes.
The entire thing is absolutely retarded.
And GamerGate itself has turned into a fucking OccupyTwitter bullshit thing.

And my twitter account still have a Vivian James avatar.
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>game journalism is actively supporitng censorship akin to Jack Thompson

>hur durr faGGots, goobelgate

Are you people absolutely retarded?

>>275532479
You boycott the people who support the censorship, not the games themselves
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>>275539370
That's a rather childish mentality but I still can't wrap my head around the idea that a 10/10 GOTY suddenly becomes trash in just one year. That's more than stupid in my opinion.
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>>275532479
>Is met with violent outrage

I'd like to see proof of this
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>>275532479
What is wrong with this country? The people who need help from mental institutions aren't getting that help! We need to put more people into mental wards so they can get the help they deserve!
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>>275540840

/v/ just loves being contrarian as fuck.
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https://archive.today/CYiFw
>Grand Theft Auto 5's misogyny is a problem its creators must finally address

How did other journalists on polygon, twitter etc respond to this article? I saw some "Good for target!! This is a good thing!" responses to the original banning, but I haven't looked for specific comments for this one.
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>>275536982
>Chris Plante gives GTAV a 9.5
>Then starts the shirtstorm a year later

I wonder if he'll change his score after realizing how evil the game is
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>>275541050
this

/v/ has spent the past decade bitching about kotaku and games journalism and when something is finally done about it they act like they're too cool to care
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>>275532479
J. holmes has always been a bitch ass. I wouldn't be surprised if he was gay.

and prostitutes getting offended because the game trivializes their criminal lifestyle? what a load a shit.
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>/v/ rightly says that game "journalism" is complete shit and that you shouldn't read it
>/v/ also get really mad when the sites they say are shit are shit

Just ignore them. It's not like R* is going to change their games because of this.
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>>275538042

Indeed

Did you know that toxic masculinity causes mass shootings?
And did you also know, that gaming causes toxic masculinity?
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>>275541250

I am not surprised. This is the board with the second highest number of underaged users. Last couple of survey had users between 15-17 at 70%.
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>>275541250
/v/ did do something about it silly, gaymergay is 90% /v/ participation and fault.
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>>275536982
Social Justice shit is the new popular kind of clickbait.
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>>275532479
>Mcintosh playing Halo
>a violent FPS

Shouldn't he be flaying himself, maybe with some mindkilling too, to remove the poison of patriarchal violence from his brain?
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>>275541382
Wasn't Blizzard shat on, then started sucking their feminine progressive dicks?
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>>275541532
What is she going on about with Nietzsche ?

The guy was batshit insane because of syphilis eating his brain in the first place
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>>275541815
This guy can't seem to tell the difference between reality and a game
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>>275541532

Isn't this exactly the conservative's argument against violence in videogames? Where is his evidence that "trivialization" of these crimes leads to people doing them in real life?

And why does he mention "young minds" when ESRB's exist
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>>275541870
people dont learn their damn lessons until they get fucked a couple of times

if only someone were to go data mining and prove to the suits that the sjws arent the ones actually buying their games. maybe they would change their tunes
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These people are so off the deep end even hardcore conservatives are defending GTA

http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/james-delingpole/9322382/why-i-love-grand-theft-auto-v-and-the-feminazis-hate-it/


Question is will Rockstar cave in? I know Blizzard did...

And what can we do about it?
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GTA 1, 2, 3, vice city, san andreas, 4, 5...

every release, the same thing.

complaining about violence in GTA. Whining about being able to kill prostitutes. same shit every release.

Anyone that whines about GTA needs to get bitch slapped.
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>>275540975
You might view it as plain old opportunism, if that helps you to understand the attitude of those media people. Right now, they've circled the wagons, dealt out their attacks against their critics and feel like the SJW ideology is on the winning track. Anita Sarkeesian, for the most infamous example, has made it on national television, published her opinion in the New York Times and gets covered by the Mainstream Media as though she was some kind of martyr for our video game sins. The second coming of christ, only better because this time around with tits. One year ago, it wasn't quite that bad yet, but now it is.

So what's your common garden variety opportunist to do? Obviously he will side with the influental people who publish op-eds in the NYT, even if he has to flip-flop on his own former stance regarding GTA, which is abhorred by what seems to be a strong contender for being the winning side. Since opportunists don't have any principles, they won't care for such contradictions as long as they get a warm welcome by their new camp for being "redeemed" now.
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This whole thing is really fucking hilarious because it shows how shitty and unproffesional the video game industry is.
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>>275535347
Brothels are legal in lots of places around the world.

I think the thing people should point out is that you can't even hire a prostitute in GTAV.
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It's over boys we fucking lost
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>I'm not trying to censor games! I'm just trying to send a message to developers that these games are NOT OKAY to make, and all players should be forbidden from playing them! If you disagree, you want women to be raped and killed!

Are they even TRYING to not say this? What fucking image do they think they're sending with this shit?
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>>275542149

Before, it was stupid news anchors and neocons.

Now it's the games press themselves. And they're all in on it. It's fucking bizarre.
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>Go straight at attacking violence in videogames
>Gamers form a united front
>"Fuck off you're full of shit"

>Soften them up with muh sojiny first
>Gamers fracture
>"DOOM caused columbine!"

Propaganda and social engineering is neat.
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>>275536982
Like every GTA game. Some group always protests it. That is just free advertising for rock star.
It's no different to all the big heavy metal of the late 90s being threatened just makes the product sell better.
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>>275542417
>We lost
>All of the Overwatch girls have big tits and fabulous asses
Haha yeah okay
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>>275542263
Are you trying to imply that other industries are?

Look up the leaked Sony emails, you can see how extremely childish directors, producers and others act towards each other

There's a reason why a lot of people call Hollywood "high school with money"
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>>275532479
I don't get how these people get off being so middle of the road.

Pro sex workers but anti depiction of them in fiction? All these SJW's should be working on helping girls out of that industry or making porn less AIDs/STD ridden then right? Or stopping female genital mutilation. Or literally anything to help the female body like making abortion legal.

Seems like a really strange message of "OH NO WE CAN'T HAVE THAT (UNTIL IT WORKS IN FAVOR OF OUR NARRATIVE)"
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>>275542723
> Some group always protests it.

I'm just surprised by which group it was this time.

And that it took them a year to do it.
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>>275542723
But this time they kinda did sone "damage". they got the game banned in 2 store. I mean it's still nothing in compare to the rest of the market but they actually did something unlike for example Thompson and that is kinda scary for me
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Remember guys, men creating fictional characters are more harmful than real women doing real things in real life.

Because feminism.
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>>275540158
>It's like, they realize they can't fix the real problem so they don't bother with it, opting out for the much easier alternative that allows them to pretend they are doing something.

Literally soccer moms.
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Gamergate butthurt is forever.
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>>275542647
because they're morons who want to please their friends. they may believe their shit they spew but only after years of being threatened and lectured about harassment.

any one dare go against the tide of feminism and sjw's will get lambasted by their peers who might end up hurting their chances at their next job.

And they all know that they really can't work at anything else because videogame journalism isn't a respected job, though no less corrupt than any other form of journalism.

Its all connected and apparently consumer profits and making a quality product isn't as important as their immediate goals and near sighted peers.

Never mind the fact that the games that do the most profits are the ones that understand the market and aren't trying to change it.

basically: videogames journalism and devs that adhere to these sjw/feminist ideals are liken to the crazy restaurant owners on hell's kitchen.
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>Baseball video games are bad for real-life baseball because they trivialize the home run
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>>275541532
>young minds
>game is rated 18.
Seriously, fuck these people;
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>>275542925
>Pro sex workers but anti depiction of them in fiction?

It's because fictional characters are objectified sexist creations made by patriarchal men who use them as dolls and force them into positions, instead of them having free will and liberation. A female character is ultimately always sexist, because they're creating a female object. More leeway is given if it's a female artist, but only if the character they make is "strong", otherwise that artist has internalized misogyny.

For example, Kojima -IS- a disgusting sexist misogynist for making a fictional portrayal of a (possibly) sexual female, period, end of story, as are all other male creators creating depictions of female characters. But the women are righteous and brave for cosplaying as those sexist characters, while the men are bad for making a character they'd want to cosplay in the first place. A man then recreating that cosplayer in some fictional form would also be sexist.

The basic thing to take away from all this, is that fiction is NOT OKAY and needs to be properly regulated.
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I dont like video games
what are some video games i would like
duhhhh
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Our generation grew up, got Kids and shit.
Thus all of the guys who used to demand censorship to be removed are now demanding censorship to be added for decency and kids or whatever.

In short: our generation turned into our parents, from back when Thompson was a thing and we were the kids demanding our parents to get some sense in their thick heads and let us play GTA3 in peace with none of the political bullshit.

GG are the young of the today demanding our generation to shut up and stop messing with their games.

They will grow up to censor their own kid's prostitute games in the future.

It's an endless cycle of stupidity.
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>>275538361
But I am. Somewhat.
I'm probably not gonna make it, but I've gone too far to quit now.
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>>275543665
2/10

More effort than copy pasting + b8 image next time please
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>>275543538

Well I just love the fact that they're dating themselves like this just to follow a popular trend. They'll never be able to move on from this without saying "uhhh sorry we were wrong" or trying to hopelessly bury it and hopes everyone forgets.

But we will never forget what they did.
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>>275532479
>violent games make people violent!
Didn't we go through this like, a decade ago?
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>>275543789

I'm being sarcastic to ridicule their position. The fact that that tumblr post probably has more than 100K views now is troublesome, though.
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>>275543789
I don't think he was baiting. just explaining the shit logic.
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>>275538814
You friend is probably only trying to convince you not to study japanese so you don't constantly pester him for help.

You shouldn't need a reason to learn a language, the pursuit itself and self-improvement are reason enough. If anybody makes fun of you or discourages you from trying then they are a selfish miserable faggot not worth listening to.
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>game about being a criminal is released
>you work your way up from low level lackey to mafia kingpin
>robbing people, killing cops, stealing cars, whatever no big deal
>abuse a prostitute?
>WHOA THERE THAT"S ONE STEP OVER THE LINE
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>>275542086

Holy shit

Everything's backwards
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>>275542417
'trying not to sexualize'

lmfao yeah how's that working out
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>>275544020
>>275544048
Beyond the meta-posting though, I really wonder how they exist in this mindset of "save pixelated women, who cares about real ones?".

If I was a SJW, I'd be trying to fix the porn industry or protesting female genital mutilation in the middle east.
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>>275535347
The united staates are not the only country in the world faggot.
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>>275541972
>Isn't this exactly the conservative's argument against violence in videogames?

It was never exclusive to conservatives. Media consumption can affect your behavior and thoughts. To what extent - no one really knows. These retards want to remove anything that doesn't subscribe to their ideology, and that could potentially have a negative effect on society, especially if they don't think the game in question has enough artistic merit to justify the "problematic" things it promotes.

>>275543645

A lot of parents are irresponsible or too permissive, and their kids will find ways to get the new GTA and Call of Duty whether they like it or not. Don't pretend you didn't play a single M-rated before you turned 17.
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>>275542417
I actually agree with the SJWs regarding MMO and Co-op

Its more consumer based and a lot of women don't like the boob plate shit. Not much with artistic integrity in the story. Plus its one of the few genres girls play.
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>>275541053
>"This is an opinion piece and doesn't necessarily represent our opinion..."

But of course it does
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Ironically, Dtoid is the best site when it comes to reviews of fanservice-heavy games. They have their own female reviewer, and she's sex positive, so she loves stuff like Senran Kagura
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>>275543903
oh I'm sure they'll try that.

Though by then they might have moved on from videogames since they really weren't that interested in the hobby other than for paycheck and it was easier than a "real job"

the hanger ons that try and bury their prior actions will never make mention of their opinions again and act like the newest game is the greatest thing since sliced bread. just towing the popular line.

at that point I'd hope everyone does move on and not bring that discussion back up, even if just to reveal their newfound hypocrisy. It just keeps stirring the pot and I rather just get back to having fun with videogames again.
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>>275543213
>they got the game banned in 2 store.

People who really wanted the game will get it one way or another, when a product is banned it just means someone else will profit from bringing that thing under the radar, while the stores are losing sales for no reason at all.

In this day and age banning a game like gta is like saying "I hate money".
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>>275544007
Humans reproduce in generational cycles, we will have to deal with this shit once per every generation.
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>>275544440
lmfao look at these fucking manlets
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>>275543213
All that did was generate tons of PR while everyone who wanted the game just went to another store. If anything, Rockstar probably come out ahead.
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>>275544648
they are Italian
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>>275544316
that would require effort and cause real consequences.
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>>275544591

I don't know, I don't think they should ever be allowed to live it down. They deserve the humiliation of being exposed as hypocritical worms. Not that they'd ever open comments to things like that in the first place, though, so I guess it doesn't matter.
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I can't help but feel that this kind of thing is just going to naturally chase people away from the game journalism sites that push SJW nonsense. Millions of people bought and played GTA and are well aware the game isn't actually sexist, but here is this site calling them pigs for playing the game. The typical 15 year old COD player that is actually the target demographic for modern AAA games doesn't care about this kind of stuff, and is going to eventually stop using those sites when they notice the same people who were only a year ago singing their praise for the game now calling it trash.

What's more depressing is the actual state of modern gaming. How many games came out this year were you honestly happy with? You can do battle with those darned SJWs all you want, but it the end it's like a bunch of homeless people fighting over a moldy ham sandwich.
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>>275544316
Slactivism existed long before this fiasco. Complaining about irrelevant shit on Twitter makes you feel good about yourself with no effort.
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>>275544020
But anon, a tumblr user can reblog a post and write an argument against it and have it count as a "note". People can reblog that argument against it and those reblogs will count as "notes".

Notes themselves are virtually worthless other than an indicator of how much attention your post received, regardless of whether it's positive or negative attention. Likes are not shown as an individual number unless you download certain extensions to show them. Tumblr is a website for people who have attention problems.
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>>275544649
>Wider stories they can tell
>It would start with a princess trapped in tower. Eventually she would have to break out herself

Her idea of "Better stories" is pretty much "Strong woman shows that she don't need no man"
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>>275544458
mmos should have very deep character customization. I'm surprised how linear they are.

Basically a single player game with online coop and check ins. why pay for that shit?
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>>275542417
I'll admit that weeabish over-sexualizations did kinda annoy me.

Then SJW's came and overstepped their credibility by a fucking lightyear. I'd almost gladly applaud somebody putting in balloon-tits just to smite them at this point, because if these chucklefucks win, we'll be lucky to even be lay a finger on a fictional character or have any females that aren't transexual Mary-Sues.
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>>275532479
Are you sure you don't want to support censorship of straight romance while enforcing homosexual games like Dragon Age Inquisition? Yeah I don't want to either.

Fuck it just localize Jap games. I want to see scantily clad females and bouncing titties. Not some "politically correct" garbage, I don't play games for that.
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SEVEN FIGURES
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>>275544316
Slacktivism anon. People who want to look good to other people but can't get off their asses to do a thing for others.
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>>275544576

She sounds like a disgusting brainwashed patriarch who's internalized her misogyny.

>>275544879

/v/'s always battled on many fronts about shit journalists, shit AAA devs and their business practices, and shitty indie games and their practices.
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>>275539817
>>275539817
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>>275545037
I used to hate weebs, now I love those fan-service requiring faggots.
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>>275544649
>We aren't Jack Thomson
>We don't want anything ban
>Shes not taking your games away
>You're not sexist, racist for playing those games

Anita and McIntosh are REALLY horrible when it comes to this. I think if someone else made the same points differently and clear, people would have a better debate about it.
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>>275544649
Not verbatim, but it's been done before. In an H-game no less.
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>>275544972
didn't someone make a flash game based on this? or was it just a failed kickstarter?
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>>275545063

Those localizations will be censored. NISA are fucking prudes and censor not even out of legality, but out of their own personal "ewww icky" morals.

And touching japanese games is a risky subject now, what with the press constantly attacking them.
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>>275532479
out of curiosity, have any ACTUAL sex workers said they hate GTA?
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A few years ago, if someone said "I'd like better femala representation in games", I'd be all for it. I loved games like Beyond Good & Evil and Shantae to death.

Nowadays, I hope every female character has baloon tits and is a sex object, just to spite these people. Fuck them.

I'm glad I bought Dragon's Crown and helped make it the best selling VW game ever.
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>It makes you think. Who is GTA's audience, and who is it sending up? Perhaps it's people like me who over-think these things. Or perhaps it's in Trevor. One of GTA 5's playable characters, Trevor is a complete asshole - and represents what would happen if the average GTA player's mentality was a person.

https://archive.today/8g4GB#selection-881.0-881.304
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>>275545037

It's pretty funny. I used to complain about excessive fanservice and how they ruined Samus but nowadays I'm more likely to defend it and I've pretty much stopped criticizing it.

Politics really do ruin everything.
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>>275544649
> It would start with a princess trapped in a tower. But no one would come to rescue her

Anita's self-insert lel
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>>275545250

Someone else? That's impossible, Anita is the One True Goddess and is never wrong. She is the feminist to define all feminism, the modern divine saviour of women everywhere. Don't you dare speak ill of her, heathen.
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>video game has controversial things in it!

wow this is new

and for the GTA series, a franchise that has never had any kind of controversy associated with it? what a surprise
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>>275544458
>a lot of women don't like the boob plate shit
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>>275545404
>I'm glad I bought Dragon's Crown

"You disgusting 12 year old pedophile (also fuck asians lol)" - games journalists
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>>275544649

Could be fun. A lonely, solitary crawl through a seeminly endless labyrinth, maybe a Super Metroid-y kind of atmosphere, slowly stumbling upon fragments of the story about why you were imprisoned and why no-one came. I'm seeing it either as a Metroidvania or some kind of roguelike, maybe.

But surely if you disapprove of a trope, you should be ignoring it in your works and not letting it influence them in any way, creating new and original ideas rather than simply reversing it and calling it a day?
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>>275542086
>But the clincher, I suspect, for a lot of its young male fans, was the sheer joyous escapism into a universe where you can still act out your most politically incorrect fantasies without some professional victimhood group like 350.org or Everyday Sexism demanding you be carted off in the Outrage Bus for compulsory re-education.

That whole article made me smile. And as I write this down, I realize how long it's been that any article about video games managed to do that, because the avarage games writer these days aims at making me feel bad. Kinda depressing. Anyway, who is this James Delingpole and why have I never heard of him before? He seems like a bro.
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>>275545480
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>>275535258
whats a shill?
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>>275545573

It just fucking shocks me that these journalists are going along with it. Are they SURPRISED? What the fuck is wrong with them? Have they never heard of this fucking series before? Fuck, they were all reviewing it just a year ago!

>>275544649
>We don't want to change games! We just want those developers to stop making those games!
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>>275545480
Too be fair, a lot of the detractors make bad points, mostly Thunderfoot. They are too focus on her being a con artist despite no real evidence and miss a lot of her points entirely.

Not saying she is right.
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>women in revealing clothing in a videogame is degrading
>women doing any x thing in a game is misogynistic

>but let's listen to what these actual whores have to say
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>>275545349
Weeb games getting censored is something of a mixed bag; NISA is pretty terrible, but xseed has done a good job recently.

SJWs do not buy weeb games, and the weebs will boycott your game if you touch the naked lolis or boobs. As long as Japan is half a world away, angry western bloggers will never have any real say in either their games or what gets censored. Games like Dragon's Crown are proof of that.
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You guys don't want women characters women devs women journos or women players.
Why dont you just admit you hate women?
Because you aren't fooling anyone.
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>>275545872
>They are too focus on her being a con artist despite no real evidence

Well, she WAS a con artist, and is still asking for more money for doing nothing....
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>>275532479
Heat has a dude who fucks and kills underage prostitutes
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>>275544649

>Make a game where you start as a princess in a tower.
>You can wait 10 minutes in game time for the hero to come and save you, or try to surmount the incredibly difficult 30+ hour dungeon crawl.

I'd be down for it.
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Daily reminder that no one in the industry who matters cares about this, and neither should you.
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>>275545394
Well the petition to ban GTA was apparently started by a prostitute under a pseudonym.

However what she said in the pettition was very misinformed

>players are required to brutalize prostitutes in order to progress trough the game

They're not . Guess she never played it
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>>275545872
Thunderf00ts debunking of Anita's Hitman video segment was fantastic.
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>>275534576
Not in any of the other hobbies I'm in. Heck, most of the other hobbies I'm in, the people making the media are people who actually enjoy the hobby.
These people don't enjoy video games, clearly.
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>>275532479
>It's the best time to say fuck you and switch to japanese games.

Japanese devs have always been better than western devs, even back when Ubisoft and EA released decent games. The Japs not only are truly passionate about games they are for the most part really transparent, just look how swell Kojima is managing the PC port of Metal Gear Solid V, but then again the problem is that another big chunk don't know jack shit about PCs, however I agree that we should all advocate for another Japanese dominance.
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>>275546114
Thats not the point, at all. We just want to keep the games we like and have good games.

I know that post is obvious bait but its still fucking retarded that plenty of SJWs believe this.
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>The US bombed them back to traditional values
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>>275546002
The thing is, the same people that never cared about this game, now do their best to create negative buzz about them. Just look at that piece of shit place called NeoGaf. Every single time a thread about some quirky fanservice filled japanese game is made, people flood it with coments like "Ugh, this is gross" and "Do you people really like this?"

And then it gets derailed with people going "WE'RE JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION. VIDEOGAMES DESERVE TO BE CRITICIZED"

Before long, the press catches onto this, and the negative articles start to pop up. This happened to Akiba's Trip recently
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>>275546538
You never talk about any games its just
rah rah women hate all day every day
what game are you going to lose?
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>GTA has been doing this shit for over a decade

>suddenly it's a big deal

Christ, just imagine if Conker's Bad Fur Day released today
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIpw3wHn9Sk

>Anita

http://guardianlv.com/2014/11/anita-sarkeesian-unmasked-feminist-icon-or-con-artist/
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>>275546530
What game is the last guy referencing
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>>275546419
I love the guy to the bottom right. That smile when she says "gender gap".
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>>275541382
Do you have the full pic?
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>>275546419
Poor Carmack he had to deal with Christians and now he has to deal with feminist.
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>>275546771
It wouldn't. Nintendo and Rare would be forced to apologize if it did.

Same with something like Manhunt.
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>>275546615

What a cunt.
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>>275546695

neogaf got Harada to remove a character from a western release because they couldn't stop bitching about her, it was hilarious
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>>275546615

>I'm not saying they're all misogynists, but they're all misogynists.

CAPTCHA: ancient duirdsc
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Man, I liked Homes' articles when I was reading Destructoid. What a shame.
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>>275546461
You gain points if you hide the dead hooker and it doesn't exclude it being there.

However it doesn't have much to do with misogyny but instead treating it like everyone else in the game like in GTAV. Its not real anyways. That and black comedy.
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>>275546838
Ninja Gaiden
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>>275546698
The ones that haven't been made yet.

But whatever, I mostly play oldschool games anyway.
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>>275546530
meanwhile at valve...
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>>275544332
>"A lot of parents are irresponsible or too permissive, and their kids will find ways to get the new GTA and Call of Duty whether they like it or not. Don't pretend you didn't play a single M-rated before you turned 17."

So fucking what? At that point it's an issue to take up with the parents or with retailers. It's not a reason to go after the developer. If you think it is then you might as well argue against any fiction or creative work that is 'mature'
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>>275546114
>You guirls don't want male or female characters male devs male journos or male players.
>Why dont you just admit you hate men?
>Because you aren't fooling anyone
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They are now going after metal.

Check #metalgate
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>>275546857

Ahaha, he tries not to laugh

oh yeah, how has sessler responded to the GTA ban? I mean, he went up against Thompson himself to defend it right?
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>>275546771
>CBFD commentary on youtube
>Chris Seavor and a bunch of others who worked on the game
>They're playing the cogs bit
>"This isn't very PC is it? Wonder what Anita would make of this"
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>>275532479
You might get a hold of bullet games like touhou. These games are casual unfriendly tho.

But, if you're like most of the people I know who are only into touhou because of the girls, you might want to get a hold of the various doujin games. A few of them come with a translation patch so you just need to dig in the wiki to find where they are.
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>>275546615

Holy shit

Funny considering these comments
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>>275546698
Because its not relevant to the discussion about how the SJWs view our games that she hates and we like.

No one minds Mirrors Edge, fuck people are making petitions to get HER out of Mirrors Edge.
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>>275547009
Wasn't he just taking the piss outta them with that though?
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>>275532479
>AAA games
Literally who cares?
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>>275547241

He hasnt and he wont because it would make him look like a massive hypocrite.
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And this means fuck-all to me because I am part of the glorious sim racer master race. There is literally no way SJW's can ruin 2srs4u racing games.
>Oh what's that, the driver is a black trans-otherkin?
>I don't give a fuck, they're wearing a racing suit and helmet anyway
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>>275545663

>Not even Hussie, the Prince of faggots like these people.
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>>275546432
>Guess she never played it

maybe she saw her pimp playing it while she was sucking his dick.

also
>being smart enough to create a petition againbst a game but not smart enough to get a real job and leave an inwardly destructive "profession"
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>>275546530
This game could be the new FF VII in that regard, I hope Nomura doesn't fuck up.
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>"many who're lacking in a natural moral compass (empathy) become very attached to absolute rules of right and wrong (ethics)"

HOLY FUCK. That has to be dumbest fucking thing I have ever read. This guy is literally brain dead.
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>>275547357

>those tweets

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/
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>>275547357
So is this guy a terrorist or what?
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>>275547364

>No one minds Mirrors Edge, fuck people are making petitions to get HER out of Mirrors Edge.

>Attempted censorship is only okay when WE do it
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>>275546114
Bayonetta was designed by a woman, who thinks she's a strong character.
/v/ likes Bayonetta.
Half the founding team for Mount and Blade is women.
/v/ likes Mount and Blade.
There are many games which are made where women have been central to the creation of the game, or are depicted well. Many more than there were before. There are many high quality games in this industry which feature well written female characters. Many more than before.
Now, granted, there are comparatively fewer strong female characters than male ones. By strong, I mean well written in this case. There is quite a large gap in that regard.
But it's the developers choices to make whatever kinds of characters they see fit.

We, as an American society approving of free speech, have to respect that. We can certainly express interest in seeing these different kinds of characters. But you can't brow beat people and expect change out of hatred. Any "change" you effect will be artificial in nature and susceptible to reactionary movements like /pol/.
This is why people like Anthony Burch, who hamfistedly write gay/trans characters, end up writing very poor ones. Because you can't hamfistedly write diversity into a story for the sake of diversity.

I hate socsci faggots. I'm an English major, and I'll be teaching kids high school level English. All of you make me sick, and I'll be certain to teach them good classical literature just to counteract everything in my classroom.
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>>275546615
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>>275546771
everything was better before 9/11

wtf I thought he terrists weren't going to change us? now we have to fear everything.
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>>275545663
Post more Diaz
This guys so insecure it's hilarious.
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>>275547646
>The game is too complicated for women

Also thats not censorship, its getting a moron out of development
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>>275539565
People are willing and accepting of being told that they're horrible people, blessed with priviledge they refuse to acknowledge because they don't hate themselves for the color of their skin or heritage. I'm pretty sure they won't have too much more of a problem taking that they're sociopathic shitheads for liking a video game.
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>>275546034
/v/ was right years ago. Casuals are fucking ruining video games.
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>>275547649
Hell, just look at Beyond Good & Evil and Mirror's Edge. People have been BEGGING for sequels to those games for years.

This crazy idea that ths industry is terrible for women came from nowhere. It's not a bad industry for women. It's bad for annoying and constantly offended and pushy people (regardless of gender).
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>>275547860

Let's face it, it's the same logic, just skewed with "games 4 gaymerz" opinion.
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Why are there so many of these crazy SJWs in San Francisco?
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>>275547979
The industry itself is bad to work in. Long hours, ridiculous good pay (in high end positions) ridiculous bad pay (in low end positions), no unions, a skeptical fanbase, a media which constantly berates everyone for the smallest thing.
It's no wonder successful programmers just work in every other field. Literally everything you can do in the vidya industry, you can do for better pay, or less stress, or better work hours, in another field.
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>>275545480
>No you haven't

Fuck, I lold.
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>>275547681

Funny how all the journos ignore this shit when Anita does it.
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>>275547649

>women have been central to the creation of the game, or are depicted well

Some of my favorite and most memorable characters in games have been women for sure.
Sarah Kerrigan comes to mind and more people could go on and on.
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>>275547681
He erased his greentexting ">implying we don't love games" tweet, it was probably too hard to keep up with the negative reception.
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>>275547649
Hell look at the Walking Dead stuff we had here.

It was a politically correct non-game but people loved the story and characters.
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>>275541471
Wait so gaming causes shootings?
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>>275546615
>I don't know shit about a nation, but I'm going to shittalk them anyway
Does Anita browse /int/?
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>>275547217

It's a problem though, and that's partly why these people are so persistent. You can't force every parent in the world to be a good and strict parent, but you can convince or force creators to alter their vision and remove the "harmful" content from their work. They're going after the root of the "problem".

I'm just explaining the reasoning. I'm sure if they could effectively police the parents' behavior, they would do that too. But even then, they would keep doing what they're doing, because it's not just about kids.
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What will you do when SJWs come after JoJo?
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>>275532479
>Implying games journalism is anything but a megaphone for developers
They don't even play games.
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>>275548168
something about San Fran attracts the worst people.

hippies and gays in the 70's. yuppies and gays in the 80's. Greedy tech nerds and gays in the 90's , ultra liberal , ironically closeminded "journalists" and gays in the 00's.

notice a pattern?
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>>275548218
The gaming industry reminds me a lot of the professional wrestling industry actually. You HAVE to love what you do to stay in it.

I ahve tons of respect for game developers that can take all that shit and still make a great product.
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>>275548505
He says he doesn't endorse the act of attacking game devs though.
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>>275548505
I started this thinking I was going to be angry, but he made good points and I agree. Not everything has to be 100% inclusive
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>>275546114

>don't want women characters
false. plenty of female characters are awesome. Jade from BG&E comes to mind s a well realized female lead

>don't want women devs
false. some of the most influential and talented developers have been women.
Roberta Williams fucking invented the point & click adventure genre, Amy Hennig is the best damned writer in the industry (and it sucks that vampire fiction didn't move in the direction of LoK), and the lead programmer of DirectX, the 3D library that fucking everything runs on, is a woman

>don't want women journos
they aren't undesirable at all when they aren't crying rape at everything they don't like in a game. Many of the reviewers for gamepro and nintendo power in the 90s were women

>don't want women players
don't want OMG LOOK AT ME IMMA GURL AND I PLAY VIDYA GAEMS GIVE ME ATTENTION PLOX
lots of women play video games and don't bring their gender into it. Negative attention toward women who aren't attention whores seems to exist almost exclusively in the realm of XBOX Live and comes from dudebro fuckwits, not the people who have actually been playing vidya since the 80s. Let's destroy XBOX live. Good solution, I think.

>Why dont you just admit you hate women? Because you aren't fooling anyone.
you're a bigot. go fuck yourself
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>>275548505
>Not liking the JoJo character design

Literally a gay
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>>275548678
>great product
Have you played video games in the last 10 years, anon?
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>>275548472
because prohibition era worked out so well.
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>>275548505
>Anime
>Needing feminism

TONS Female creators
Great female characters
Moe
Big female fanbase
Even some LGBT stories.
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>>275548812
>you're a bigot.

Don't stoop to their level.
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>>275547241
>nationalism and right ideology is on the rise everywhere and those faggots keep adding fuel to the fire, completely near-sigted
A major beatdown is coming and I'll just be watching from the sidelines.
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>>275546114
Go fuck yourself. I fucking love women. My favorite games of all time had women working on them, and I respect the fuck outta them for it.

What I don't like is tumblr triggered assholes telling me to check my privilege because I don't have a problem with prostitutes in GTA
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>>275532479
>These faggots think The Hausers even give a flying fuck what people think of the GTA games.
They're the best selling games on the market.
Profit>whiny SJW's opinions.
Even if this got support, it would be shot down in supreme court as censorship.
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>>275548850
I played Bayonetta and Catherine, and they are two of my favorite games of all time. So yeah, I've seen some quality.
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>>275549069
I want this to happen.

Humanity will be on the rise again.

Starting with Sweden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa4LtSgOeao
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>>275547231
Good.
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>>275549069
I still want to slap whoever designed that hair style.
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I swear you guys giving those idiots attention is worse than those retards being serious. No one can ever and will ever change video games. Take away alcohol and you have a problem, take away games and you will be no more.
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>>275549018
Don't try to reason with SJW. They literally do no background research before spouting inane bullshit.
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>>275549018
>Not enough female oriented manga in Japan
>"Lets make our own manga!"

Meanwhile in the west
>Not enough female characters that are represented well in video games
>"FUCK IT! Lets complain on the internet about it until we get our way!
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When will the SJW fag be over. It's time guys..please let it go
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>>275549476
The point is that no one is going to care.
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http://victorsopinion.blogspot.be/2013/07/anitas-sources.html

Has Mcintosh ever responded to being proven to steal content beyond a shadow of a doubt
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>>275549380
It's too late for sweden. They are to busy getting raped by immigrants to put up a fight.
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>>275549471
They'd have attention regardless, I don't think you understand how it works. Regardless of the bitching here, these people will still be the voice heard in vidya websites.
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>>275543665
>That image
How does she know Quiet isn't dressing that way for reasons of feminism?
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>>275549339

Those are Japanese games though, which makes you a sexist. Do those games portray any minorities at all? Of course not!
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>>275549591
Fair use motherfucker.
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>>275544648
>Laughing at fictional characters for being short
How insecure do you have to be, stringbean?
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>>275549591
It's completely legal, it's called Fair Use. Sure it might be a dick move not to include a source, but it's not "stealing content".
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>>275547913
But its obvious they just want her out to keep her shit opinions out of the game which is still censorship. Not to mention I don't think there's any proof she's actually on the game and this is the type of shit that results in her getting a job from someone who wants press/brownie points for hiring her.
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>>275549854

But to not even credit the sources or ask permission, and pass it off as your own? I'm not saying it's against the law, just that it's a fucking shit thing to do.

And of course it brings up the question of proof that she played the games in the first place.
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>>275549745
I remember when people were mad about him supporting gamergate. Saying that he's white and privilege this and that.
But all of them simultaneously forgot that he grew up in a satellite country of the Soviet Union. That Czechs were quite literally third or fourth-class citizens in their own country.
Kinda fucked up how convenient it is for gaming media to dismiss that kind of thing.
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