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Why do we have PS2 emulation, but not Xbox emulation yet?

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Why do we have PS2 emulation, but not Xbox emulation yet?
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Probably because the most popular Xbox Hueg games have a PC port that any modern toaster can run. That´s a shame, Xbox Hueg had a lot hidden gems and the emulation scene doesn´t care about them.
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>>266239956
Because there are only about three fucking exclusives that are worth playing. Healthy, gregarious, successful people don't give a fuck.
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>>266240569
That's an excuse.
Just admit it - We cannot figure out how
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>>266239956
http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Xbox_emulators
There is very little documentation on how it worked available to the public.
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>>266240776
<cannot figure out how
It's basically a mid-range 2001 fucking PC. Get a life.
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>>266240776
Anything is possible retard.
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>>266240910
fucking meme arrows
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>>266241026

you'd have to reverse-engineer it without fucking up the console. nobody in the emulation scene has that many resources. lack of access to documentation is a bitch
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>implying there's anything on the OG XBOX worth playing that wasn't ported to something else
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>>266241187

true, but I'd imagine SOMEONE out there has the time to do it. If we have people who have time on their hands to make porn in Source Film Maker, there's gotta be one person who wants to emulate an Xbox
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there were people who said there was no point in getting the xbox when it launched because they would just download the emulator instead.

because... its basically a pc, right? right?
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>>266240569
>Healthy, gregarious, successful people don't give a fuck.
This fucking autist
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The REAL Question is when we get 360/PS3 emulation
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>>266239956
The smart people just plain don't give a fuck.
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>>266241380

it's not really about the time. you'd have to spend a considerable ammount of money to buy 20 consoles to tinker with and throw out if you destroy them. this is the problem here
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>>266241519
you are too poor to afford a 100 dollar console?
what the acual fuck man
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>>266241705
Wait ten years and then come back. It's already bad enough with the red rings.
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>>266241357
Phantom Dust
Voodoo Vince
Stubbs The Zombie
Ninja Gaiden Black
Phantom Crash
Breakdown
Crimson Skies:HR
Metal Wolf Chaos
GunValkyrie
Mechassault
Steel Battallion
Fusion Frenzy
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>>266239956
Because smart people don't buy shitboxs
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>>266241705
>Wanting to pay for the console + games
>Wanting to support corrupt as fuck companies
>Not wanting the convenience of downloading any game, including imports
TIP TOP BOP LEL
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Because of the infrastructure of hte system.

Same reason we don't have a PS3 emulator doing anything yet, but the 360 emulator already has full rendering.
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>>266239956
PCSX2 is shit. Wake me up when somebody makes one that does not have x30 times the requirements then a normal ps2.
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As I say everytime, any console can be emulated -all it will take is for the community to pay me $5000 to map the architecture with my electron microscope.

The price covers the week of my labor, and the operational costs of the 'scope.
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There is no interest

>>266242113
>how do emulators work
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>>266242195
>266242195
Cry about it.
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>>266241930
>ninja gaiden black
Okay so i'll probably step on some toes but what the fuck was so special about black? why are the 80 gorillion other ports since not as good? Why black over the original? I never had it, I skipped straight from the original to two, and apparently missed out on a masterpiece.
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XQEMU/CXBX is about as close as anyone got from what I've seen.

There were some nice exclusives for the xbox, (Otogi and Otogi 2 for example), but not many compared to the PS2 or Gamecube.

I've always wondered if anyone ever tried to look into and reverse engineer the 360's xbox emulator. (That had quite good compatibility. It's a shame Microsoft abandoned it)
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>>266242363
Black is more difficult, has more weapons, a cool sidemode, couple extra bosses, costumes, better camera, and is all around a more polished and precise game.
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>>266242113
Won't happen. You need notably more power to emulate a system because your power and resources are diverted to other things.

They'll probably optimize it a bit more before they drop it though. Frankly i'm surprised they've continued work on it after all the shit the team put each other through.
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>>266242491
Does that stuff not exist in later ports? Or what?
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>>266242740
Nope. Sigma is piss easy, and the rachel missions blow ass.
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>>266242391
>I've always wondered if anyone ever tried to look into and reverse engineer the 360's xbox emulator
Not happening, you're basically suggesting emulating a hideously complex PowerPC based system to emulate a somewhat less complex x86 system on it
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>>266242689

>4 DSPs

BUGGED EMULATION MECHANICS WOOOOOOOOW
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>>266243269
Haha. Well, that's not exactly what I meant.
I meant more so, could the emulator be improved and patched back into the 360.

Or at least understand how the 360 translates it all.
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>>266241958
Translation: I'm a poorfag who uses this "fight the power" to excuse the fact that I can't afford to buy a cheap last-gen system.
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>>266242021
>Same reason we don't have a PS3 emulator doing anything yet
we can actually run simple psn games now
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>>266243361
WHAT? I CAN'T EMULATE PCSX2 OR DOLPHIN WITH MY AMD CPU? WOOOOOOOOOW DUDE
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>>266242158
I can give you three bucks.
How far will you get with that?
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>>266240910
<>this autist cant maymay diamond
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>>266242021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iEq-xONawg
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Because I'm a programmer who programs the Xbox emulator and it's a piece of shit documented thing, and for proper emulation, there's a ton of functions that don't line up with PC ones. And no fucking documentation.

Yes, we can't figure out how to emulate a lot of the functions to get games working. Fucking shaders.

By the way, it's nothing like a PC, you assholes. God, I'm tiring of explaining myself in every thread about this.
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>>266245359
Can't you just use an older PC? Maybe the new ones can't into xbox.
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>>266241357
What about that fucking Mech game with the bespoke controls? Or Dead or Alive 3?
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>>266245502
Actually, that's been tested too. I believe it was on XP where we had the most success. Nobody really knows why, though. Still, the fact that we can't figure out where half of the registers, functions, and shaders are supposed to be emulated, checked, and all that yet is there, and an older PC won't help.
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>>266239956
I don't know honestly. The xbox had the best version of a lot of games and some really interesting exclusives too.
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>>266245857
Thick cunt.
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>>266245801
Actually releasing Steel Battalion was really a fucking ballsy move, a MSRP $200 for the game and a controller that only works with one game only? Totally worth it, I'd fucking love to own it myself. Too bad the Ebay prices are some prime bullshit and I'm already strapped for cash
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>>266239956
Don't get me wrong the ps2 was a comfy console but shit I have so many memories of playing fable at night that shit was comfy. Plus I loved the ui of the Xbox cause it was just comfy. I wish Microsoft would go back to that style instead of that horrible windows 8 bullshit
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>>266246397
With that attitude, you'll never get your two Xbox exclusives!
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>>266240776
its literally a Pentium 3 machine with a built in GPU, people just don't give a shit about the xbox
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>>266241519
360 probably in a few years, PS3 maybe in the next decade, THE POWER OF CELL is too retarded and complicated to emulte
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>>266246589

>>266242689
God, you people are fucking stupid.
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>>266246589
>its literally a Pentium 3 machine with a built in GPU, people just don't give a shit about the xbox
So once PS4/Xbone have games I suppose you think there will instantly be emulators, because they just use AMD APUs, right?
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>>266246589
>emulating undocumented hardware is easy!
do it yourself then, chucklefuck
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>>266241930
>Stubbs The Zombie

Stubbs has a PC version.
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>emulation
Fucking poor fags & philistines.
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>>266242689
tl; dr
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>>266247062
I have already. I'm just not sharing it with any of you fat fucks.
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>>266247968
Well, your mother.
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Just buy a fucking Xbox.
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>>266248179
But I don't want to deal with extra wires.
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>>266239956
apparently no one gives a shit about the xbox
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>>266239956
It's not worth bothering with. Xbox barely had any exclusives that didn't eventually end up on PC. The only exclusives that are really worth giving a shit about are some of the Japanese exclusives.

And ironically, one of the main reasons people buy the original Xbox today is because it's perfect for running emulators. Soft modding it is even easier than the PS2.
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For the past few years I and a small group of my associates have been attempting to form the foundations for the creation of a working Playstation 3 emulator. The point we are at right now shows promise, however it will still be a few more years before we are ready to release our project to the public. While I cannot go into specifics at the moment, I can give you a rough ETA of around 6-8 years at this rate.
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>>266246413
A lot of people have said the Steel Battalion controller would be perfect for Star Citizen, since it has two joystick, a throttle, pedals and a shitton of buttons. There are even hacked PC drivers for it. Like you said though, it costs more than a PS4 on eBay, which is a damn shame.

And seriously, what the hell was up with making a new Steel Battalion and then making it Kinect exclusive? It was the exact opposite of everything that made the original SB cool, and it ended up being a massive piece of shit. They could have released an updated version of the controller and people would be all over that shit.
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there is one, i played phantom crash on Cxbx albeit very poorly
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>tfw you feel your original Xbox just isn't hueg enough.

>tfw you don't feel that feel anymore
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>>266241357
Jet Set Radio Future
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Breakdown
Ninja Gaiden Black
Phantom Crash
Rallisport Challenge 2
Project Gotham 2
DOA3
DOA Ultimate
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Emulating money

why?
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>>266241930
oh man dat Voodoo Vince
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>>266241930
I'll take 'shit nobody talks about ever' for 600, alex
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>>266248785
wat
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>>266248785
What the fuck is that? I sort of want one now
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>>266248785

It's......glorious
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How about getting a $10 Xbox Hueg from goodwill or a garage sale, then just pirating all the games.

You guys ever think of that?
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>>266239956
Because I can count the number of worthwhile XHUGE exclusives on one hand, and two of them are Halo.
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>>266249120
Just because nobody talks that much about it, doesn't mean it isn't fucking good.

Example: your mom's pussy
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>>266241930
>Metal Wolf Chaos
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>>266249262

Haha, I know what you mean. I saw it once when I saw there was a set of 5.1 surround sound speakers someone made once for the Xbox hueg that had a digital input and I wanted them specifically for vidya. On a hunt for peripherals for the beast I saw this and thought it was the most hideous thing I'd ever seen.

I had to have it.

It's basically a plastic box with drawers on the middle section for games, and a cupboard like thing at the bottom for controllers etc. and the console sits on top.

I was originally going to buy the TFT screen someone made too but never got round to it. My plan is to turn it into a server for mediabrowser in the living room.
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>>266249529
I've wanted to play that game for so long. Why do the Japs have to fuck us over? The game had English voice acting for fuck's sake.
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>>266249398

It's not so much the exclusives so much as being able to output the xbox in HD with component cables and, if you hack it, turn off the horrible Vaseline filter they added to pass for anti aliasing.
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>>266239956
>tfw I will never play airforce delta storm

;-; i'm not a kid anymore, but i am still upset.
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>>266241930
>>266248804

Out os these two lists, only JSRF and Steel Battallion was worth mentioning. The rest are either trash or have superior ports elsewhere.
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Xbox has less than 900 games, the few ones worth run on other platforms
Like Halo, or have been remade
Also, the Xbox, even though a computer, uses a obscure undocumented Nvidia GPU and DSP, no one knows what the fuck goes on with those, or what they even do, they have loads of weird instructions only used in the Xbox
Though we do have like two emulators, one of them is able to run Halo up to the title screen
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>>266250002
>not liking Phantom Dust
Get rekt
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>>266248318
>It's not worth bothering with.
People have made emulators for far more pointless systems.

Admittedly most were older and more simple
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>>266241930
>forgetting Jet Set Radio Future, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Otogi, Blinx, Midtown Madness 3, Kung Fu Chaos, etc
Yes, etc, because there are more little gems I dont recall right now. Also, the Xbox had the best multiplat games or versions of some like Shenmue 2 or that GTA 3 & VC(custom radio was pretty cool).
Just JSRF is that thing that many want, the HD is taking its time and will probably be an exclusive Bone live thing.
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>>266250002
>NGB
>Breakdown
>Phantom Crash
>Rallisport Challenge 2
>trash
Nah.
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>>266250216
Well yeah, of course people would do emulators for more obscure systems if they are simple enough. Xbox is essentially a PC which means it would take a lot more work to get games on it to be playable, and since there aren't many exclusive games for it, there's not much incentive to bother with emulating it.
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>>266248785
>>266248785

Do you find monkeys keep breaking into your house to worship that thing?
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Good god i miss the xbox/ps2/gamecube generation, as well as the early to mid 2000s in general.

i want to cry
where did the present go wrong? did it go wrong? am i just imagining everything is worse now?

i want to go home. this decade is not for me.
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>>266250305
There were a couple of really good Sega games on Xbox that I wanted back in the day, but I am just holding out for them to get HD rereleases. Either that or I'll just buy an Xbox from Goodwill for $15 next time I see one. The games are dirt cheap because it's not old enough for kids who bought it to be nostalgic about it.
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>>266241945
Who said anything about buying stuff? I thought we were talking about emulators...
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>>266250305
Also OutRun 2 original version was only ported to Xbox and has its advantages over Coast 2 Coast.
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>>266250651
>it's not old enough for kids who bought it to be nostalgic about it.
Are you kidding? These days stuff doesn't even have to be a year old for some people to get nostalgic over it.
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>>266250634
Dreamcast > Xbox > GC > PS2. From 00 to 2008 it was a pretty good run full of fun. Now not that much. At least I still have a bunch of games to play from that era and the 90s.
>>266250651
One of the reasons I bought a Xbox was Sega. Specially JSRF, I really wanted that. Getting best multiplat versions was a great bonus, as at the time exclusive games like Splinter Cell, Fable, Jade Empire, or SCalibur 2.
There was a game I was pretty hype and never came out that was called B.C. So much potential on that shit
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I want an original fat xbox controller for pc gayming
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>>266251072
I have that version. Never played the 2006.
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>>266250634
I really don't think this generation is that much worse than previous generations, it's just become a lot harder to actually find the good games amongst all the AAA trash, and /v/ doesn't seem to be making the effort.

The only real tragedies this gen was the death of Survival Horror and Stealth.
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So when do we get 3DO emulation?
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>>266239956
Because the xbox had no games
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>>266251826
And platformers. And jrpg. I mean jrpg, not kawaii looking lolis in silly adventures for personal fapping
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>>266248785

>tfw my xbox huge controller is already starting to crap out

now if I want to play an old xbox game, I have to use my madcats controller
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>>266252202
I think playformers are still doing OK. Mario Galaxy, the Wii DK games, and Rayman Origins/Legends were all fantastic.
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>>266252404
I always preferred the smaller official controller, it was super comfy.
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Why aren't you boycotting 4chan? Fuck moot.
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>>266252448
Yeah but most are in nintendoland. But on Xbox or PS there is nothing right now.
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>>266252798
That was today? Oh well, I guess Moot can get all of this delicious advertisement money I'm generating for him. Oh wait.
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>>266252404

That wireless Madcatz one isn't too bad but it's tiny
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>>266248785
>somebody fucking explain this thing
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>>266252798
Fuck off.
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>>266252940
They're always slanted more towards TPS than pure platforming, but there were a couple of great Ratchet and Clank games on ps3
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>>266252404
The duke has grown on me as I've gotten older. It's nice for racing games since the triggers are really stiff, but other than that it can't compete with the S.
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>>266253318
Somebody already did.
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>>266252547
I used to have a 3rd party version of the S Controller. It was the best thing in the world since it turned the black and white buttons into shoulder buttons.
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>>266253318

I already did:

>>266249615
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>>266240910
>can't fucking figure out greentexting
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>>266252404
My PS2 controller has always been shit because I got it used when I bought the system. I opened it up to clean it, and it had a band-aid inside to hold it together. I scrubbed every piece of plastic and rubber on that thing clean and it still barely works. I'm about ready to throw it out and buy a new one.
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>>266253416
>but there were a couple of great Ratchet and Clank games on ps3
I am actually playing that series right now. Currently playing the 3rd game of the original trilogy and so far I am enjoying it a lot. I will probably finish the Future trilogy until early december, while trying to get everything. After this I need to get the Jak trilogy.
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>>266253326
Fat loser.
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>>266240292
>modern
>toaster
Man if people would get pay to be stupid
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>>266255170

Toaster is /v/'s term for a mid/low computer. I hope the irony of your post isn't lost on you.
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>>266255349
>I have no idea what i'm talkibg about but I'm gonna say i'm OK anyways
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>>266243551
Not that guy, but I like the idea of having Emulators to preserve games for future generations. We can't read some older analogue computer programs or media footage because the technology to read it no longer exists.

When the last Xbox dies, how will we play the games?
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>>266257147
Kill yourself.
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>>266257802
No, too comfy.
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>had no games
>most of the games appear on the other consoles/PC anyway.
Why would you want the xbox emulator again?
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>>266258150
For the 10-20 games that were only on Xbox that I'd love to replay. Also JSRF. Mostly JSRF.
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>>266246413
I got chance to play it the other week, its not that good. Only had a few hours on it, it was really uncomfortable to play. And hard as balls. would like to spend more time with it.
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>>266248785
>own a Gamecube
>tfw Xbox was the strongest console during last gen
>you'll never own one
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>>266248785
Wow, it's actually box shaped
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>>266254770
SHOTS FIRED
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F
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>>266248785
>dat little piece
It seems for the dvd player, but that sure is different than mine.
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>>266262080
I think that's for a wireless controller, the slot is for a memory card.
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>>266255595
He's right though. You're retarded.
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>mfw Genma Onimusha and Fatal Frame: Director's Cut coming for my hueg in the mail tomorrow
All I need is Ninja Gaiden Black, Jet Set Radio and Crimson Sea for my collection to be complete.
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