>Sony loses another 2.1 Billion. >Recovery plans ruine

How many time has Sony lost 2.1 billion dollars? Or maybe it's someone who keeps making the same threads on /b/ 2.0

SONY IS FUCKED!

boy...

Looks like we'll be seeing the apple playstation quite soon after all.

Or maybe the microsoft playbox, or the wiistation

Oh look, this shitty thread again.

Report this thread for spamming. Don't even reply.

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>implying the biggest and best companies don't run on at least $100000000 of debt

how can a company keep losing money and stay afloat?
Whats the secret?

>EVERY DAY
>FOR FREE

>>265328061
>Wiistation
>keeping that stupid Wii name yet again

Nope.

>>265328061
More likely sony would drop they're TV/electronics divisions and keep the profitable one.

Sony becomes Nintendo. I want to live in that world.

They need to close all the other divisions and just become a game company. It's inevitable anyway, fuck their god damn tv's and other bullshit.

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Oh look this thread again.

>>265328381
>Sony's tv/electronics sections
>not profitable
Is this a joke I missed out on?

>>265329864
Yes, it's called "Sony's history of everything that happened after Trinitron".

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>>265327776

>>265331437
I don't follow their corporate profile so I don't actually know but I'd wager their electronics and t.v. industry is doing well.

how is this a good thing for anyone?

>nintendo expects profit
>posts massive loss
>sony expects loss
>???

Help make /v/ better and do your part in "that" which we are no longer allowed to speak of.

>>265331613
It doesn't. They can't compete with the koreans, offering worse products for more money at first, then equivalent product for more money or with less margins.

>>265331687
didnt nintendo buy new assets?
While sony sold off some of theirs?

>>265331613
Sony sells electronics of the same or lower quality as LG, Samsung (literally made in the same factory) but for a lot more money. They are literally failing in every single electronics division. They are arrogant enough to think people would pay more for an inferior product just because its made by sony.

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>>265327776
You post it again! FOR FREE!

woah... sony is... done...

>>265331761

Also their films and music doesn't make as money as much as they used to and Insurance is the only thing really covering their asses financially.

>>265328308
Increase value, bank debt is less important than company value.

If you need a $100m loan to make something that is worth $200m then your ahead by getting the loan. This is one of the first things you learn in economics.

>>265331761
>>265331864

I'm generally curious if you can back that up. Most publicly traded companies have public quarterlies (like EA for example) so it should be easy to prove.

I'd be willing to google this shit myself if I wasn't half asleep.

>>265331687
Nintendo is a much smaller company than sony and have huge cash reserves. Also the 3DS is selling well. Sony has been losing billions every year for nearly a decade now with no signs of stopping. All the american investors dumped sony along time ago, its only the jap loyalists who remain, but for how long?

MICROSOFT DOES WHAT SONY DONT

>>265331831
they recently sold their PC division

>>>/biz/

Sega Dreamcast 2.0

>Look mom I posted it again!

>>265327776
>>>/biz/
This thread wasn't interesting the first 8 times you posted it.

>>265332094
>generally
Meant genuinely, my bad.

I want Sony to hurry up and die.

>>265332256
>>265331885
>>265329036
>>265327870
Sonyfags really are butthurt.

>>265327776
Source: articles from 2009.

Good one OP!

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>Smiling Sanshiro.jpg

I didn't give my life up for nothing

>>265327776
>Look mom I posted it again
If sony goes under, the playstation brand (which makes money and is home of the best selling consoles of all time soon to be 3 times in a row) would just be bought out by some other company looking for an easy in to the console market. Either that or they would branch off on their own and just be a console maker similar to Sega and Nintendo in the day.

Assuming PS went down entirely I still wouldn't give a single fuck because PC.

Enjoy being a poorfag. Meanwhile anything worth giving a single shit about at TGS is coming to the ps4. How many new WiiU games did they announce there? Xbone? Nothing? Oh ok.

..............Woah............................

>>265327939
Too many. Thing is, this is for 2015. They lost over 2.4B in 2013, 2.1B in 2014, and now 2015 forcasts have gone from promised profits to another 2.1B or more loss

>>265332437
Sony killed Sega Dreamcast, Sanshiro had to suck cock on the side of the road to make a living

now Sanshiro laughs as he sucks cock, sony will be sucking cock next to him

>>265327776
I don't want to see Sony die out yet, man. They're the only company truly fit to rival Nintendo, and I don't want either to fall before the Xbox does. They must continue on long enough for some unknown company to get in position to give the industry it's second jolt to life following the impending Second Great Crash of Vidya.

>>265328308
Fun Fact: Sony in 2000 had over 100 Billion dollars. In 2014 they have less than 10 Billion and by 2015 end it'll be around 7-8 Billion or less

Short answer shorter: About 15 years

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>>265332587
>now Sanshiro laughs as he sucks cock, sony will be sucking cock next to him

>>265328308

Loans and being able to nail down one or two big hits a year that pay off for investors.

Problem is that model is not sustainable.

>>265332323
Who wants that, really? How about my digital download? I own 20+ game on PSN and if Sony bites the dust, what will happen to my digital games?

>>265328381
>Sony becomes Nintendo

you forgot the part were, IF they do that, they will no longer be able to make consoles that sell at a loss, meaning that they will have to make sorta weak consoles like the WiiU in order to stay afloat and if MS is still around then MS will easily make more powerful consoles than Sony.

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>>265329036
Alison Brie is so goddamn beautiful. I just want to kiss her.

I feel a little honored that the image I made has been adopted by the guy who's been spamming the Sony headquarters image for months on end.

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Is Kaz kill? Can't wait to finally see his face removed from the internet.

Sony...starts with an "S" and is 4 letters long.
hmmm...

S...S...SEGA

starts with an S and is 4 letters long...could history be repeating its self.

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>>265327776
This killed the Sony. Think about it.

>>265332429
to be honest, this same exact thread has been posted non stop for the past few days and its just filled with shitposting.
I don't even like sony

>>265328308
Sony probably has a good credit rating, meaning lenders have faith that Sony will pay them back.

>>265333232

You're honored that some group of autists that meet on an IRC every day use your image to shitpost?

>>265333168
You mean this one?

>>265333362
Nah, sony killed sony. They tried to sell crap products for a premium price. Consumers aren't complete retards, especially now that we have the internet.

>>265333349
Nintendo is 8 and Microsoft is 9, so both will be fine.

>>265328424
>fuck their god damn tv's and other bullshit.

It's so weird because they used to be industry leaders in their other stuff, especially the tv sector. It's mindblowing to the try and understand how this mismanaged and fucked up so hard.

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>>265327776
>suddenly /v/ likes sony
what happened?!??

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Why are people so hellbent on Sony collapsing? You know people rely on it to earn a living...

Some people take video games a little too seriously, holy shit.

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>>265333428

>>265333535
Don't know, maybe these fags got banned from neogaf. Either way, hope that when Sony goes, these goons go as well.

>>265327776
OH NOES! WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO NOW!?

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>>265333623
They want Nintendo to become the sole proprietor of video games, but aren't old enough to remember how much that fucking sucked for everyone else when it happened back in the 80s.

>>265333623
Because if they hurry up and die fast enough I'll be getting The Last of Us 2 on my Nintendo Fusion when it comes out.

>>265333428
No. It's toxic.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-08-07/japan-shame-index-dumps-sony-stock-adds-panasonic

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>>265333623

>>265327776
Sony: 22 billion in equity
Nintendo: 11.3 billion
Microsoft: 90 billion

While losing 2 billion is a bad thing you have to realize that Sony is a huge fucking company. Equity is the money that would be left if all liabilities were paid.

In regards to assets

Sony: 148 billion
Microsoft: 172 billion
Nintendo: 12 billion

If anything, the only company riding close to the edge is Nintendo because equity is significantly lower than the others. Sony losing 2 billion means share holders are pissed. In reality they've got money to blow and if the ps4 still does well and they kill some of these cancerous divisions they'll be alright.

>>265333754
>but aren't old enough to remember how much that fucking sucked for everyone else when it happened back in the 80s.

By everyone else do you mean EA, Activision and Ubisoft? Honestly the more gaming sucks for those three companies the better.

>>265332470
I don't know why I'm even typing this cause these drone types are close-minded

Playstation is not and has never been a profitable business. The point of Playstation, as with Xbox is to take the living room. It is a vanity project to maintain and grow Sony's brand name with the newer generations. Basically Playstation as a whole is marketing for their other products. Very expensive marketing. Microsoft and Sony's business models would not work without a megacorporation behind them to front the losses. It just isn't a financially viable business on its own. Without a big name and bank account behind them, they wouldn't exist. In all of history only one company has been able to maintain itself on its own, due to hoe it has done business, a severely different way to its competitors. The Sonysoft model of paying out the ass for deals and taking losses on expensive hardware just won't fly. SCE can't be on its own.

The reason MS never has to worry about this is that they are funneling Nokia money to cover Xbox losses as their mobile division and Xbox fall under the same blanket.

Who cares?
Let's keep bashing Bayonetta 2.

>>265333368
You pretty much described every thread on /v/. Reptitive and full of shitposting

>>265333828
>If anything, the only company riding close to the edge is Nintendo because equity is significantly lower than the others
but Nintendo is way smaller than M or S

>>265327776
imprisoning games only goes so far

>People are excited for microsoft getting less competition

Literally the definition of fully retarded.

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>>265333623
>people rely on it to earn a living...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-09/sony-to-cut-10-000-jobs-worldwide-6-of-workforce-nikkei-says.html

>>265333362
I always wondered why Sony never managed to pump out a competent competing product to go against the ipod. At least Microsoft managed to produce the Zune which wasn't complete shit.

>>265327776
WHERE ARE THE VIDEOGAMES?

>>265327776
can i ask how they keep losing so much money?
>what is failing to sell at the moment?

>>265333478

Sony's reaction of "OH GOD DRM EVERYTHING" in the face of MP3's and iTunes is what killed the company though.

>>265333623
Its just all the lies and smugness Sony has been dealing in.

I am glad to see one of the worst companies die. It would be like seeing Apple die in 10 years. You would enjoy that.

>>265333828
If a company is only losing money and has no hope of making any money, investors will have enough and they will gut the company and sell it for scraps in order to minimize their losses. Nintendo is in a much better state than sony, and MS could drop everything today and still be around for the next century.

>>265334003
And why do you think those jobs were cut anon? Because Sony is collapsing which is what some anons seem to be happy with.

>>265334025
Maybe at the PS4?

>>265333623
I don't care. I want thousands to lose their jobs so Spiderman can go back to Marvel

>>265333938
JAPANS SALES retard. The game don't even make it to western countries yet. Just wait until Nintendo publish it on the US and see sales soar. Those chinks always hate games like Bayonetta. They just want their Mario/Zelda/Smash.

>>265333921
>icrosoft and Sony's business models would not work without a megacorporation behind them to front the losses. It just isn't a financially viable business on its own.

Hell that's the exact reason Nintendo and Iwata say they can't compete directly with Playstation and Xbox.

The business model, as shown even recently by the PS4 just doesn't work for an independant company, 10 million consoles sold in less than a year and still a loss?

>>265333948
it's up to you to make a change.

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>>265327776
>83 posts and 16 image replies omitted.
pls mods

>>265333921
>they are funneling Nokia money to cover Xbox losses
Its actually patent royalties from Android.

Fun fact: MS makes around $2-3 billion every year from android.

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>>265334260
Sony could easily earn those 2B back by selling Spidey to Disney.

Easily

>>265333828
Whats the liquidity on those assets?

Equity is not cash its just the number you get when you minus liabilities from assets. I can have all the assets in the world but if they're not liquid I can't do shit.

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>>265333105
>yfw sony becomes Nintendo next gen but instead of making a console they take the streaming service they've been working on and introduce it to every smart television
>netflix like subscription plan for unlimited games

>>265334323
They're too busy deleting sexist posts.

>>265334507
The thing is that Marvel would rather wait it out, Sony's contract, and this also goes for Fox with X-Men, Fantastic Four, etc., is that they have to make a new film every few years or they automatically lose the license

>>265334303
>10 million consoles sold in less than a year and still a loss?

It cost money to launch a new console.

>>265334002
Phil Spencer got put in charge already, all is good with the Xbox world finally. Xbox could end up with a monopoly and things would be good, trust in Spencer. He is the saviour of the Eastern vidya market

>>265334448
>>265333921

Software patents were reported as software licensing. Not hardware or related to games. Microsoft was making money off Xbox since 2008 and went in the black in 2011

But then whatever makes you feel better.

>>265334562
>companies can change games on a whim
nah man, I like my physical copies

>>265333908
Everyone else meaning everyone who wanted to develop games for the NES.

Nintendo is no "nicer" than Sony or Microsoft. Fuck, they're over a hundred years old -- they didn't survive that long off of good intentions and kindness.

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>>265334562
>mfw Gaikai fails and Sony ends up renting Azure servers

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How small do you think OP's dick is?

>>265334448
Yeah I knew it had something to do with patents, thought it was a Nokia thing.

Why the fuck do they keep Xperia around?

It makes no money.

>>265331864
To be fair, samsung makes the parts for almost all electronics. All the ram modules are made by samsung. Almost all the panels for cel phones, monitors and tv are made by samsung or LG.

>>265334971
Almost as small as the ps4 library.

>>265334957

Sony's probably going to shit bricks if Microsoft moves Minecraft Realms to Azure and brings it to consoles.

They either have to take the L and let MS make more money than god off their console or say no and piss off customers.

>>265334260
>I want thousands to lose their jobs so Spiderman can go back to Marvel

Why, so that Marvel can make nothing but movies about the major characters forever?

People like you don't seem to get that a single stupid has limited resources and can only make so many movies a year. That means that anything that's not Iron man, spiderman, x-men, or one of the other major faces would never get made.

Sony having spiderman, and Fox having x-men is actually the best situation.

>>265334562
>tfw this is how the Wii U gets third party games

>>265334953
>Everyone else meaning everyone who wanted to develop games for the NES.

Well if you looked at the NES third party library you'd see why the restrictions were for the best.

Nintendo's strict to the third parties, whereas Sony and Microsoft allow the third party to pull whatever bullshit they want.

>>265334076
>It would be like seeing Apple die in 10 years.

>MS with full market control

Are you retarded?

>>265334553
Didn't see it but it doesn't really matter. Sony has shown they're willing to sell off buildings and what not. It's clear to everyone they need to get rid of their Phone Camera and TV divisions and focus on things that actually have a change to make money.

>>265335050
Which makes it even more ridiculous how sony charges more for a comoditized item like TVs when its the same quality as the competitors.

>>265332587
SEGA killed the dreamcast. SONY kkilled console gaming

>>265335194
Spiderman would be made and he'd be in the Avengers. Also Phase 3 doesn't even have an Iron Man. GotG proved that Marvel doesn't have to follow those rules. They've found a killer recipe and I'm excited for Ant-Man. Marvel's on double time and if they had Spiderman they'd do it justoce finally and make so much dough they'd be able to expand probably. Make 6 yearly movies instead of 4, which I'd like to point out is a thing that's happening. Marvel's good with production, they film non-stop all year long

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>>265335365

>YFW Sony sells SCE to Microsoft

Just seeing the rage on neogaf would make my life complete

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>>265335245
And who has the stronger third party support today?

Nintendo wasn't strict, they were fucking sadistic.

>You want to develop for the NES? You're going to license your cartridges through us -- and we're going to take a huge cut
>You want to try and develop several games to offset the cost from our ridiculous restrictions? Too bad, we're going to quality control you and let you flounder.
>Oh and we won't allow you to return the cartridges to us too, so you're shouldering all the risk. Ta ta!

To say it was "scummy" is putting it mildly.

>>265328308
Sony needs to sell of the movie rights to Spider-Man asap. ASM2 barely made profit.

>>265335365
Well MS then, you get the point. Its more fun when the "omnipotent" falls.

>>265334784
This. I don't think people understand that there is a cost that goes into RnD. Sony had a ton of money in 2000 because the ps1 was a success for 7 years. In 2006 again because the ps2 was such a huge success. Then they spent a bunch of money making the ps3 which fell flat out the door and stuggled to meet the expected demand to return their money. The ps3 is finally doing well and has likely paid back the development cost and is probably even selling at a profit at this point. The ps4 out the gate is doing fantastic and sales are only going to rise come holiday season. That combined with the games set for release early next year they'll be fine. At least SCE. I think they'll need to do some serious cuts to other divisions and hopefully turn the train around. But even if they lost another 2 billion every year they'd have at least another decade in them before they ran out of money. Cry more.

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>>265335365
These retards don't realize that the only thing stopping Company A from absolutely dicking your consumer ass are Company B and C standing in their way.

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>>265335610
>Spiderman in The Avengers

>>265335365
What market? They already control the PC market, and nobody buys Windows Phones

>>265336285
How come they're making a huge buck out of it already?

>>265335486
Imagine you're one of two people that controls the supply of sugar in your neighborhood. Everyone wants in on the lemonade stand business. You also happen to run a lemonade stand. You sell your lemonade using your sugar and make sure you sell sugar to everyone else at a premium so you make money and hinder their profits.

It's like you don't even understand scummy business practices.

>>265336074
They didn't make money on PS1 or 2. CD players and DVDs sold at less than the standalone devices? That shit was a loss product.

Playstation doesn't profit, because they have shit business policies, because Playstation is just general SONY product marketing. It isn't a viable business by any means.

>>265336385
Cause they patented some shit Samsung and/or Apple infringed and won the lawsuit and now it's tonsomoney until the other company dies

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>image filename

Why isn't this pyscho deleted on spot?

Sony will be fine. Don't you faggots know that Nintendo's contending with the motherfucking Niwashi KING?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylHrO-FpgSk

>>265334835
>Xbox could end up with a monopoly and things would be good
>monopoly

>good


>ever

Go read babby's first economics.

>>265336496
Its more like sony wanted high margins cause they thought their brand name could carry them. They should have just made less profit.

>>265333921
>Playstation is not and has never been a profitable business
Sony made massive cash during PS1 era.

>>265335194
>a single stupid

a single studio*

fucking a

>>265334835
I swear I see this exact same style of post constantly.

Phil Spencer has not proved himself one fucking bit yet. You're either a dumbass drone or a marketor. Either or is cancer.

>>265336862
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZmxV1SdfDI
If you're going to post niwashi king at least post the goddamn original. Vocaloids just can't do Hirasawa.

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2.1 billion really isn't a lot of money if you think about it. sony is going to be fine and all the games coming out exclusively on PS4 next year will make everyone's purchase worthwhile. greatness awaits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg671J01Asw

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>>265336508
Gee wiz talking out of your ass sure is fun. Notice those losses the year before a new console was to release. Notice how steep the 2006 losses were because the ps3 didn't do well enough to meet the cost of RnD which was also huge. Notice that in 2010 they started making money on the ps3.

>>265336285
>What market?

Computers.

>>265336508
Cd players were already common when the PS1 launched. Every console from that era except the N64 and the SNES had a CDROM drive available.

>>265336941

Nintendo's practical monopoly with the Gameboy was pretty good.

>>265337059
The person selling sugar is Samsung. Essentially Sony has to sell at a high cost because they buy their parts from Samsung that is jacking up prices to make sure Sony can't underprice them with their own hardware.

>>265335486
Thats why they lost to samsung in the tv business. Somewhere along the line samsungs quality matched or even surpassed sony while maintaining lower prices. Sony charged a premium not for better quality but just because of the sony name. Unfortunately for sony people dont have brand loyalty when it comes to tv. They just buy the best one for the lowest price.

>>265337259
Can people even cover Hirasawa? I know Yuko Miyamura (Asuka from NGE, Larxene, Chun Li, Aisha ClanClan, etc), an actual idol, tried to cover Mother and fucked it all up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njht5FVsLJ4

Here's the original, for reference; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpa_xDePRC4

>>265337446
But it was terrible. The game gear came out a full decade before the GBA and long before the DS but had visuals that still beats the dick off of them. Nintendo had a monopoly and it just allowed them to be lazy until Sony brought around the psp. Vita might be selling like shit but some competition is better than none.

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>That feel when Vita Owner
>Sony might crash on itself and take down their video games in the process

R.I.P Playstation

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>Thread still up after an hour and a half

Hello NintendoGAF.

>>265335610
>GotG proved that Marvel doesn't have to follow those rules. T

You're not understanding at all. GotG wouldn't have been made if Marvel had the rights to Spiderman and X-men, because they would have been busy making those movies.

>they'd be able to expand probably

Expansion means permanent increase in annual expenses.

>>265334017
>the Zune which wasn't complete shit.

Oh God, zunefags still exist?

>2006
>SONY IS OVER. RIP PS
>2014
>SONY IS OVER. RIP PS
>2020
>SONY IS OVER. RIP PS
its a never ending cycle

>>265338201
So far the trend remains unbroken. They are losing billions every year with no signs of recovery. Thy will be dead soon enough.

>>265337930
Is that an happy feel? Or are you just using that pic incorrectly?

>>265338004

No, mods are just dead and have been a lot more lax about threads like these in the last few days. Yesterday we had a bazillion threads about Bayo 2 sales, and none of them were deleted.

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>mfw I'll be playing Bloodborne on my Xbone in a year

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>>265337310
>2.1 billion really isn't a lot of money

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>>265335059

>>265338336
>ps4 will never happen
>ps4 will never sell
>Sony is going to die anyway
>any day now
>ps5 will never happen
Keep spinning hte wheel. I enjoy the show.

>>265338465
>meh, pocket change
-Sonyfans

>>265334017

They had one but the music division freaked and wanted ridiculously strict DRM on it. Sony ended up releasing a DRM laden mess that wouldn't allow non DRM files to be played on it that flopped massively.

For years investors wanted Film and Music to be split so they wouldn't interfere in Electronics but Sony was insistent that every one of the divisions has to stick together. Problem was Film and Music was so powerful with Lobbyist connections that they could overrule electronics constantly.

Years of poor management is really starting to catch up on them.

>>265337093
From Walkmans and TVs nigga

>>265338465
When a company is worth 150 billion in assets it really isn't. It's terrible in the eyes of their investors but if push came to shove they could sell some shit and stay afloat.

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>>265327776
>Sony lost [insert money amount] they're fucked now!
>Nintendo is doing bad this gen they're fucked now
>Mircosoft went full jew once again they're fucked now

These threads are fuckin retarded no matter who they're targetting
It's just flame bait, and you fucks fall for it every time

>>265338091
You say that, but meanwhile Guardians fit in quite well with Captain America, Thor, and Iron Man

>>265336759
Huh, so he's basically like some weird "doom" speaker that really hates a company because...?

I have no idea to be honest. Maybe Sony killed his family.

>>265338676
Sony is not just playstation nigger. Playstation is a product made by Sony Computer Entertainment. The playstation line, made a ton of cash during the ps1/2 days. They lost it all during the ps3's early years but started a turn around in 2010. However SONY the big corporation was losing money in other divisions. Playstation doesn't do terrible. It's sony. The big one.

>>265338504
>Sony's worth in 2000
>100B
>Sony's worth in 2016
6B

>>265338389
Honestly? It is happy. I'm still pissed that Sony dropped me like a rock for bailing on the Vita.

>>265338852
You guys realize they're following a cannon right? It's all leading up to the Guantlet in which the avengers will get their shit fucked an die terrible deaths.

>>265336759
I like him. He's right about Sony and he's obviously passionate about this.

Can we at least agree with one thing?

OP should be killed for being an annoying faggot right?

>>265339142
No. Get the fuck out.

>>265338985
That's not worth son. It's annual income in that year.

>>265328290
Sony has almost exactly 100 times higher debt than what you mentioned.

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>>265327776
>the same goddamn /biz/ thread is on /v/ every day
>Good Gaming threads are banned

Fuck you and fuck your ass. For free.

>>265339142
He sounds like a sociopath, you might be one as well.

>>265339175
Not going anywhere. Cry about it.

>>265339293
You sound butthurt.

>>265328308
ask America

>>265339272
This. We are Gamer Gate.

We are Legion.

We do not Forgive.

We do not Forget.

Expect us.

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>>265339779
Fuck off

>>265337783
The Game Gear had horrible battery life.

Anyway you're right, no matter what the competition did they made a monopoly with their pesky exclusivity deals.

>>265328308
Jews

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All according to Kotaku

>>265335787
Ironically, Disney probably make bank on that movie simply because of merchandising.
Sony also wants to make a new movie about Spider-Man and friends each year.
Movie goers will get sick of Spider-Man really fast if there's a new film with him every year.

>>265333478
>Consumers aren't complete retards
Eh

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>>265327776

Eh. It seems like PS4 is going to go out with a bang. I have a Wii U and a PC but I'll pick up a PS4 on black friday.
No company should die this way

>>265339989
This is true but it's not like any of you faggots leave your home anyway. And besides their still selling underpowered tech to this day because they don't have proper competition. The 3DS has a lower pixel density than the fucking ngage. I'm not even making that up. It's pathetic.

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>>265339842
>create threads about the "demise" of Sony every day for 10 years
>it's still not happening

I am glad that people like you exist, so that I can laugh at you.

>>265337783
The Game Gear had horrible motion blur.

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>>265340281

fix'd

>>265337446
You can't really compare the handheld business to home consoles.

and it really wasn't that good either. By the end of it's lifespan the gameboy was extremely outdated technology, and the GB color was the same shit visuals+color. Had Sega not abandoned the Gamegear(which was visually vastly superior) and produced one not so battery hungry, ninty might not have the handheld dominance it does today.

>>265332470
>Xbone? Nothing?
Raiden?
Sony didn't announce anything better

>>265339075
I know all about this.

Iron Man and Captain America will probably die in Avengers 3.
Thor might die, but I think they'll keep him around because of Loki's legion of fangirls. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised of they made a movie or short-film just about Loki.

Let me guess, you're the same autist that created threads for weeks saying that Sony was going out of business and that there would be no PS4?

>>265340378
That and the terrible battery life were still amazing accomplishments for when it was released. It took nintendo a full 10 years to release a full color handheld with a back light. Literally why?

>>265340281
Xbone and Microsoft are making money though

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>>265339842

>kek

>>265328290
Post more best girl

>>265327939
same threads look at dates of the links
>2009
>2009
>2009

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>>265340281
Why are you being mean to the xbone? It literally has nothing to do with this thread.

Plus it's selling alright and its parent company couldn't be in better shape, so that picture doesn't even represent reality.

>>265340459
Was your head bashed in by a rock during TGS or do you think the ramp up in shitposting against Sony is just for no reason in particular. Look up the games that are coming to ps4 that were shown at TGS. It's going to be a good year to be a weeb. And you can say "muh ps3/vita ports" but literally every multiplat game has shown that people are tired of 7th gen and nobody owns a vita so the ps4 is the go to for those titles.

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>>265340447
Don't be upset, kid. Make some "SONY DOOMED" threads again. This help MS make some games for you :^)

>>265338852
That's only 4 movies. spidey and x-men mean 2 more flicks at the least, nevermind all the x-men material that could be mined later for a flick that would be replacing some other potential movie.

confirmed for missing the point.

>>265340589
Xboner suck PS4 balls.

>>265340764

>sonygger
[X] Told
[X] Told Hard
[X] #rekt

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>>265340827

>:^)

Don't forget to pay PS+, stupid goy.

>>265340448
The problem was that the GameGear prioritized power over efficiency. The GameGear was just too powerful for its own good.

The GameBoy Color also should have come out a few years earlier, imo.
The GameBoy lasted a decade before getting replaced and frankly, aside from Mario Land (and the original wasn't that good), Tetris, Kirby's Dreamland 1 and 2, Link's Awakening, Metroid 2 and Pokemon, there wasn't really anything great on the system.

>>265340827
But the xbone and microsoft are actually making money.

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every "next gen" console is shit right now. Xbone isn't doing any better than PS4 and all of you are retards for buying these consoles at release, with handful of gimmicks and port games and at ridiculous full price
>you should all feel bad, not just the guys who didn't pick the console you picked

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>>265340764
Sony always wins. Sony best gaming company. Microsoft cancer of gaming.

>>265341146
Wow, all those sales are Sony STILL isn't making money.
It's honestly impressive.

>>265340584
>It took nintendo a full 10 years to release a full color handheld with a back light. Literally why?

Because nintendo has been cheaping out since it entered the videogame business. Just about everything they've ever made has been inferior to the competition.

>>265327776
>implying M$ isn't bleeding money either... also Nentido

>>265336285
For now, but when tablets + keyboards become standard then we'll see a real paradigm shift in computing.

THe first thing that has to happen is cheap energy efficient and durable laptops with two sim card slots becoming common place.
After that...
It's over.

>>265341101
They actually making best NoGaems machine of this generation besides PC.

>>265341146
I'm too busy playing Forza Horizon 2 to care.

>>265341274
>N64
>Gamecube
>SNES

>>265341350
But the fact that they're making money means that the games will come, unlike the PS4 who's library will sputter to a halt halfway through it's lifespan because Sony can't afford to pay for exclusivity contracts anymore.

>>265341238
Today I learned that anon doesn't realize Sony is not compired of just Sony Computer Entertainment and he doesn't realize that the playstation brand has been making money since 2010.

>>265341238
So? Sony has most and best games than PC, Nintendo and Microsoft combined.

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>>265340534
They are going to close up tomorrow, THIS TIME I SWEAR!

And then they will be bought out by this console maker!

>>265341470
You shit eater, Forza Horizon 2 shitty racing game.

>>265327870
And /v/ will keep having these threads until Ruggarel and his IRC posse film themselves commiting sudoku.

>>265341274
Not really. I'm a sony fan but nintendo used to actually try with their console hardware. It wasn't until the wii that they stopped giving a fuck and kept selling outdated shit. The handheld market has always been theirs so they had little reason to care. It's only neo nintendo fans that think Nintendo never cared about graphics when really the n64 was more powerful than the ps1. Hell n64 games were like 80 dollars. Shit was dumb.

>>265341086
Which is the problem with all handhelds.
They prioritize power and graphics over battery life and durability.

A "color" gameboy from the early 90's will still work while a game gear will more then likely be dead.

>>265341681
Sony never dies, so OP these threads get permanent REKT

>>265341538
Not in 2012, 2013, or 2014

>>265341802
That's not the point I was making bring up the game gear. Hardware performance and durability will go up as competition forces companies to make better shit. Nintendo had no competition so even though a technically superior device was released a decade prior they still insisted on selling up low tier shit like the gameboy because it printed money. Competition is good. It's what stops us from having a device released in 2012 with a lower pixel density than the ngage. There's really no excuse for it. Durability doesn't need to go down as hardware goes up.

>>265341781
>clearly superior
>try to say console pleb to throw us off

we already know you're a sonygger, don't try to hide it.

>>265341781
He's presenting facts. Stop crying

>>265342106
Profits go down as RnD costs go up. Wanna guess what they were developing in those years? I'll give you a hint. It's the answer to "What will be making them a ton of money for the next 7 or so years?".

>>265341538
>Today I learned that anon doesn't realize Sony is not compired of just Sony Computer Entertainment

And when are you going to learn that it's other departments are doing just as bad, if not worse?
Today I learned that retards don't read the thread before posting.

>>265341546
read
>>265341494

>>265341494
>But the fact that they're making money means that the games will come

Only massive No Games come. Xbone can't compete with PS4.

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>Sony falls to third party
>Gravity Rush 2 and LittleBigPlanet 3 on WiiU
>The Last Guardian on Steam/Steambox
>God of War and Killzone on Xbone
>Sega comes back without the console war shit
bright future

>>265341714
Yeah, they always cared about graphics.
During the 6th gen they had objectively, the most powerful console on the market and it cost not even 1/2 of what the ps2 and xbox cost.

The problem?

Nintendo is fucking retarded when it comes to marketing and simply console themselves with selling to the people who like nintendo. They didn't even really try to sell to them, just keep them entertained.
Which is a good business strategy but one that will end in taking your customers for granted and eventually death.
They also ditched rare when they know damned well they should have thrown money at them to continue to make games.

Anyway, when their last console failed they went for fun and hype and coupled with being the only multiplayer local co-op game in town, a novel control scheme, and being cheap as fuck it basically ruled last gen.

However, we all know that nintendo is fucking retarded when it comes to capitalizing on popularity or even recognizing what they have and continuing with it.

Hell, they didn't even capitalize on fucking pokemon when it was at it's height of popularity.

It was fucking wizards of the cost and 4kids.

>>265342584
More like mario and Halo will come to PlayStation.

>>265341657
You speak english like a chink. Figures.

>>265342768
Denial mode: Activated

>>265341472
N64 - better specs but shitty storage, 64Mb cartridge vs 900Mb cd

Gamecube - better specs than PS1, worse specs than xbox, worse storage than both

Snes - stronger than genesis, but somehow still managed to have less impressive content on certain games, also weaker than some of the other less popular competitors

>>265341802
Battery technology hasn't advanced as quickly as the rest of the hardware. The batteries can't keep up with the processors in terms of power consumption which is why everything has a shorter and shorter battery life despite similar size batteries.

Unless you want to have a system that has a massive battery, you won't be having something like the GBA SP or DS Lite where it can last 20+ hours on a single charge.

>>265339012
I know that specific feel my friend. They have earned their destruction for this.

Has neogaf talked about this? I'd like to see reactions lel.

>>265342878
OP can at least provide sources to his claims, can you do the same?

>>265342204
MULTIPLE objectively superior devices were fucking released over the lifespan of the Gameboy.
Each and everyone save for the wonder swan was a battery hog that would break in two if you so much as bumped against lightly.

And if that were even remotely true, then most nigh thousand dollar phones wouldn't be easily broken and have the battery life of a single realistic bbc vibrator in an all girls college.

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>>265342878
>Made a profit of 43 billion last year

>>>/biz/

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>>265342860
Why you activede denial mode? I know why, because Xbox has NoGames.

>>265334025
not on ps4

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>>265342584
>>Sega comes back without the console war shit

>>265343051
No, they only talk about how great it is to fight #GamerGate and DDOS websites.

>>265343153
Neither system has games, bro.
Though to be honest, the Xbone has a better line up as far as exclusives go.

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>>265340589
Next year IS looking really good for video games.

MGS 5, Final Fantasy XV, Kingdom Hearts 3 (KEK) Bloodborne, and Xenoblade Chronicles X.

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>>265342768
nope, Nintendo said no to third party shit

and Microsoft rather put Halo on Steam or stand-alone 12 months after and re-create Halo DS than on Sony consoles

stay in denial, your tears are delicious than Ridley Tears of Joy

>>265332470
Man, even when Sony is on the brink of death Sonyfags find a way to be smug and condescending.
And to think people here call PCfags elitist.

>>265342878
Are they selling oil now?

>>265342926
>worse specs than xbox
Better actually.
Mainly because the xbox couldn't use half of it's processing power without needing a high powered cooler or burning out.
The GC was functionally more powerful then teh xb1.

A fact that quite honestly surprised the everloving fuck out of me.

>>265343279
>the Xbone has a better line up as far as exclusives go.

One Bloodborne > all Xbone lineup.

>>265342584
>microsoft will buy playstation and combine it whit a xbox

>>265342929
You can design the system around battery life you know?
And batteries have progresses fairly far, it's just that there is more money in replacement batteries then a battery that can last for weeks on a single charge.

>>265327870
Where the actual fuck is that girl's nose?

>>265327776
Any good exclusives on Xbone?

>>265343410
Yeah, you rather wait for that Myazaki pretend to be masterpiece than play some actual games right now. We know.

>>265333623
Nigger please, people lose their jobs every day, you only care because you happen to like the company.
Personally, if a dead Sony means less faggots shitting up video games and /v/, then I'm all for it.
They've been digging this grave for years anyways, they only have themselves to blame.

>>265342929
I'll trade a few hours of battery life for a more powerful system. It's not like you're going to be that far from an outlet for too long anyway.

>>265327776
OP is a faggot, console gaming died after PS2, doesnt matter the company now they are all utter shit.

>>265343578
You mean ones that will stay on Xbone?

Uhhhh....

>>265343595
> some actual games
>on Xbone

You talk about movie shit like D4?

>>265343653
Most people who use portable tech would love something that would last dozens of hours and not need to be charged for a good long while.

Most would gladly sacrifice the power of the tech for it.

>>265343540
>it's just that there is more money in replacement batteries then a battery that can last for weeks on a single charge.

The people making replacement batteries aren't the same people making the battery in your mobile electronics.

Worst case scenario, Sony goes down the shitter and someone else is in control of the Playstation brand.

Fuck off with this off topic bullshit

>>>/biz/

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>Sony dies
>EA eats the Playstation corpse
>become the true superpowered pc
>Nintendo, Microsoft, Sega Sammy, and Valve has to work together and stop 'em
>yfw this is true final boss of the game industry

>>265343974

How are video game companies off-topic?

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>>265343696
>>265343707
>H-hurry u-up M-Miyazaki-san

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>>265342768
>Mario coming to anything

Nintendo have gone on record saying they would rather kill him than see him in third party hands. This also applies to their other IPs.

>>265343291
>One Button Action 15
>15FPSborne: Now With Less Customization
>Thinking Kingdom Hearts 3 will be out in 2015.
>Not listing The Witcher 3, Batman, Barkley 2, Star Citizen, Zelda U, Scalebound, Mount and Blade Bannerlord, and Kirby and the Rainbow Curse


>>265343540
The problem is then it gets too bulky or you gotta cut back on power which means less grafics.

>>265343653
That's the logic behind modern handhelds. The last one to make battery life a huge priority was the DS line.

>>265344093
EA making their own hardware platform would be interesting, the yearly exclusive sports titles would probably push a lot of units, as would Battlefield.

For the longest time I thought Activision was stupid to not make their own platform where CoD and Blizzard games were exclusives.

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What parts of Sony is making decent money besides Sony Entertainment (music shilling)?

>>265344540
Insurance and that's it.

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>>265327776
This is just pathetic OP

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>yfw SONY NEVER EVER DIED
>infinity tears of Xboners,PCfaggots and Shitendo plebs.

>>265344510
>The problem is then it gets too bulky or you gotta cut back on power which means less grafics.

The average console should be ten times more powerful then PCs. Does't matter if it will drive the cost up to 4k dollars.
There is no excuse.
Do you agree?

>>265327776
Is that in addition to their previous $2.1 billion loss?

>>265344725
No.

Consoles exist for several reasons:
A baseline for development
Affordability
Ease of use
Exclusive software
There have been super expensive consoles which had amazing specs for their time, the all did poorly.

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>>265344917
Would you rather us be talking about SJW shit?

>>265344705
>flashback to 1999
>yfw SEGA NEVER EVER DIED
>infinite tears of Nintendo nobgobblers and Playstation pansies

But seriously though the reason Sony looks bleak is because they have no exclusives to make somebody buy the console.

I mean business wise they're okay, I mean for people who like games like myself.

There is no reason to own a PS4 since I have a PS3 and PC. The Vita is better to own than the PS4 and will be for at least a few years, which is hilarious.

>>265344878
Exactly.

There is no reason for handheld technology to sacrifice portability, durability, and affordability outside of trying to drive up prices for the end consumer.

>>265344878
>Exclusive software
This basically doesn't apply to PS4.

Kingdom Hearts and Bloodborne are the only aces in the whole they have in this regard.

2 whole games. Everybody knows their 1st part is shit, that's why 3rd party titles don't mind coming to Playstation platforms, no real competition on the platform.

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>>265344540
It's more that they have razor thin margins.

In terms of what brings the bread home.

God Tier
Sony Finanical

Top tier
Sony Music
Sony Movies

Middle tier
Camera
Gaming/Network Services

Low Tier
Smartphones, TVs, Bluray, and mostly other stuff.

>>265344983
at least SJWs are a common enemy as opposed to platfornwarrior kiddies having a shitflinging match

>>265345119
>camera
How can there even be a camera market with cell-phone cameras? They are ridiculously good nowadays plus they offer all the other things smart-phones can do.

>>265345090
Kingdom Hearts 3 is going to be on Xbone.

>>265345246
I have no idea if that's true but if it was it wouldn't surprise me.

Generation 8 is the generation of no exclusives.

>>265344705
Are you enjoying the drought on your favorite console? Literally no games to play.

A shame Sony doesn't have money to force some games into the console.

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>>265345210

You know, these things? No, your smartphone does not match it

>>265345448
Yes but that's for professionals. Are professional photographers really going to keep the whole division alive by themselves? There aren't millions upon millions of them. (Well according to themselves their are probably a shitload, but I mean actual professionals, not "woah check out my use of macro here on my facebook" professional.)

>>265345440
I play Destiny everyday

>2014
>Japanese company at loss
>everybody acts surprised
Don't pretend that you don't know that J-megacorps play the market share game.

>>265345626
Poor soul.

>>265345567
And the military and hipsters

>>265345320
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_III

>Kingdom Hearts III (Japanese: キングダム ハーツIII Hepburn: Kingudamu Hātsu Surī?) is an upcoming action role-playing game developed by Square Enix and published by Disney Interactive Studios for the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.[5] It will be the first Kingdom Hearts game to be featured on a Microsoft platform, having previously only released on Sony Computer Entertainment and Nintendo platforms, and the first to originally release on more than one console.

It will probably come to PC as well as porting to/from the PS4/X1 to PC is insanely easy. I wouldn't be surprised if Square announced that KH3 and OneButotnAction15 came to PC, the fact they're releasing the shitty Lightning games on PC now is probably to test the market.

>>265345691
>the military
Seriously? They don't have their own equipment from government R&D money? They just use Sony cameras?

>>265345678
And Dark Souls 2

>>265345567

There's a lot of hobbyists too

>>265345696
>It will probably come to PC as well as porting to/from the PS4/X1 to PC is insanely easy. I wouldn't be surprised if Square announced that KH3 and OneButotnAction15 came to PC, the fact they're releasing the shitty Lightning games on PC now is probably to test the market.
Damn, I told my friend the other day KH would probably come to PC given Square's recent behavior. He wanted to believe he could have a reason to have the PS4 though.

Dang, well I hope those fags love Bloodborne.

>>265345762
They don't have fucking factories that produce equipment for them.
What they don't design themselves and have built by others they buy from private contractors.
Components from sony is one those things they buy.

>>265343783
>Most would gladly sacrifice the power of the tech for it.

If it literally lasted dozens of hours and they could still do what they want to do, sure.

But we're not talking about some extreme here like the gamegear only lasting 5 hours. Modern smartphones with all the shit they have going on are still lasting 15-20 hours.

>>265345210
Sony does Image Sensors, and Smartphone Cameras.

If Sony makes the right moves, they can save their Camera business.

>>265345448
Bought the D3200(?) for a friend about a year ago. Amazing camera for the price. Just have to get the lenses you want from what I understand. I'm not a very good or knowledgeable photographer myself.

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>>265345797
>>265345567

Actually here, case in point. Teenage girls who totally need that pro grade camera for their mirror selfies And it happens to be a Sony camera too lol

>>265345878
The fact Bloodborne is being released roughly 10 months after Dark Souls 2 is a cause for concern. I lot of people I know (as well as me) will be passing on it simply because we're burnt out on the Souls games having spent hundreds of hours on each. If Bloodborne were a Holiday 2015 title, then maybe I'd be somewhat interested.
Also the fact it and The Witcher 3 come out within a few weeks of each other can only be trouble for Bloodborne.

>>265327870
then it's really not a good sign

>>265346214
Witcher 3 shit, Blodborne better. Only troubles for Witcher here.

>>265346193
Lots of moms are buying them too because they want good photos of their shitty kids.

>sony dies before Persona 5 comes out
>they port it to the WiiU because apparently porting ps3 games to WiiU is easy as fuck

>>265344983
Actually honestly yeah. That shit is way better than NINTENDER AND SONU IS DEAD! DEAD I TELLS YA!" shitposting.

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>>265346786

>>265346948
Then go make a #GamerGate thread then.
I'm fine with talking about video games here.

>>265347073
Honestly even with that I have zero doubt the 'golden' version of 5 will be multiplat.

>>265347214
No. That shit is cancer. This is just an even bigger cancer. If you want to discuss video games leave shit threads like that.

>>265327776
Why is this company so fucking retarded?

>>265347267
Let you dream.

>>265337331
Yes "making money"
Let's just ignore that gigantic hole they dug the previous 4 years. All that 2010 money would do is just go towards paying off debt

>>265346121
No they aren't.
They're barely lasting 8 hours with moderate use.
That's not mentioning the fact that gaming on them will effectively half that.

Most people will willingly sacrifice power on a smartphone if it meant that you could use it for well over a week with moderate use and never have to charge it.

>>265347214

These shitty "Sony is dying" threads have been going on for years on this board. You should wait until some bit of news comes up, like when they release their quarterly financial statement. Making these threads every day or every week is fucking stupid and barely has anything to do with videogames. It really does belong on /biz/.

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>>265347448
y-you too...

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>>265345119

>2013

typically delusional sonygger

>>265345210
Anon you know cell phone cameras are, surprise, cameras too.

>>265347718
Sry, kid. I don't need this shits. Only Nintendo, PC and Xbone plebs dreaming about Sony games.

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>>265347708
I wish people would just cool down the threads.

It's worse then GG threads because Tortanticfags have no idea what they are talking.

>>265327776
>being this faggot who post this every fucking day

How does it feel to be a faggot anon?

>>265334953
For that last fucking time, this was after the crash so they had to force some basic form of quality control.

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Sony isn't doomed
Nintendo isn't doomed
Microsoft isn't doomed

stop being mongs

>>265346193
Somebody in this thread said the market wasn't that stupid. I present that as evidence against his claim.

>>265349358
Which is more doomed than the others?

Why are these threads only allowed when they're not aimed at Nintendo?

>>265327776
>>265345119
>>265344540
Did they ever make money off of Blu-Rays?