>majoring in computer science to make video games
>not having a single diploma and keeping shitposting on an imageboard where nobody gives a shit about you, and not killing yourself
>studying computer science and then moving home after graduating and doing nothing but play video games
I've got a job interview next week though
>not getting a Ph.D. in biophysics then becoming a NEET and playing video games and posting on 4chin all day because you've had enough of working and ruined your youth by humping books and lab equipment
step up kohai
I'm in mine and it's usually just a bunch of us in a room doing homework or playing yidya They also hold guest lectures, teach their own UNIX course, hold hackathons, and LAN parties
what courses are you taking. If you do a class or two and don't like it switch. It's not all games (last few weeks of my python class we learned how to make games using built-in python features, but those we're only pong and breakout) and when you get into higher level classes its more so about the theory of Computer Science.
I'm gonna major in computer science, not for video games though, just cause it seems like a good degree.
I suck in math though, wish me luck anons
>Linguistics and literature in mid along with pseudo sciences
>Dude has beef with astronomy for some reason
>Philistines still ragging on philosophy in particular for some reason
I'll never understand
What kind of shitty list is this?
Literature, art and women's studies should be in Kill Yourself tier. Get CS, neuroscience and astronomy out of there. Fucking /lit/ faggots trying to seem relevant.
>I'm gonna major in computer science
>I suck in math
pick a different major. seriously.
any CS degree that's worth a penny is filled with enough math to absolutely destroy you if you suck at it.
Good Lord does this bitch make my autism go wild.
Seriously, million dollar budget and they couldn't find a way to dye her eyebrows so they'd match her hair? It just looks so fucking fake.
>Economics only in Mid Tier
I have to try, I can't really see myself doing anything else. I'm just gonna push through and do my best so I can have a nice life!
Most of my math issue is just cause I suck at remembering stuff, and that I stopped trying to pass it since 8th grade. I just took per-algerbira and passed
I'm not sure yet, I had one job in mind but I totally forgot the name so I'm back at phase one
Well it was in Hong Kong, one of the top ranked schools in the world. Was way too fucking hard for me. Had to code a Tetris game from scratch and do and Unreal Engine videogame for the final project AND had a final exam. Jesus. Also saw AI theory and tons of shit.
>got a bachelors in computer science
>it's a shitty ordinary degree with no honours
I've had a few interviews for IT/developer jobs since graduating this summer so it's not like I'm completely unemployable.
Are there any good computer-related things that don't involve math?
But if I do it i'll be making games right? or I can go in that direction? I heard software engineering is the best thing to go for for that.
Or am I fucked and should change majors quickly?
I don't have the exact names but i'm taking basics for stuff.
Have a math class, a science class, and i think a computer science class. I'll be home shortly and should be able to check my exact schedule/classes at that time if this thread is still open.
It seems like something I really would like, don't think i'll have problems with it, just want to make sure it's what i want.
I see threads on /v/ quite often that makes me a bit fearful that software engineering isn't what i want.
Psychology mid tier?? Are you fucking kidding me? That piece of shit degree is what everyone who has no fucking clue what theyre doing graduates with. Also Comp Sci is one of the only degrees that's in demand and pays well; a bachelors in biology or physics doesn't pay jack shit.
>neets contributing nothing to society but smug anime girl images.
Graphic design. Its very rare math or programming is ever used. Most professionals won't work with either of those unless they specialize in something. I know that you can use photoshop for medical purposes and that requires some math and programming to accomplish.
you CAN, but honestly if you are just doing Computer Science to make video games for a living, switch majors. You can learn to program games off the internet and do all the shit you do for them. I would suggest taking the computer science class and if you are interested continue on, but if you find yourself bored or don't like it, switch immediately. It sounds like you are in your generals so switching won't be a big deal.
Network tech/system administration stuff.
IT rather than engineering.
Not that guy but the math you're going to encounter in a good CS curriculum is much much different than the "math" you have done up to that point.
Start getting into robots right the fuck now.
Very little of the things you learn in CS classes is going to prepare you in any way for working on actual software projects.
I'm British and even I know that Full Sail is a shit school. That and they film based NXT there
>not majoring in History so you have a diploma that basically allows for a job with anything
I shiggy diggy
>history doesn't lead to jobs!! worthless degree!
Nobody gets a History degree to get a History job. It's just a nice and well-rounded degree.
>I just took per-algerbira and passed
what is that?
i'm not american, so i'm not familiar with your education system
most relevant math stuff for comp sci:
>probability theory and statistics
depending on your field you might also need
>advanced linear algebra
and a ton of other specialized shit i'm too dumb to even know about
I feel dumb. Is computer science the same as software engineering? (the latter being what i'm majoring in)
also my courses:
problem solving theory
computer structure and logic
added to what i posted above.
>Going into arts
>Fuck up so badly during course registration I didn't get to take any history courses
Yeah its in high demand, but only in unrelated topics to physics. You either have to go the accounting route or the programming route which are both totally unrelated to physics.
not OP, but I am a second year and I am taking
>Probability and Statistics for Engineers
>Data Structures and Abstractions (intro to Java)
>Elementary Computational Linear Algebra
the math isn't too bad, it's mostly logic based stuff, but things like 3D Graphic Design are really Calculus based
>mfw chemical engineer
>working for one of the top 3 oil companies in the world
>making over 200k per year
just come back from my job every day
turn on the computer
spend the rest of my day on 4chan
sleep and repeat until I die I guess
I should have gone Arts, I'd probably be happier.
>expecting to get hired
masters is minimum
>Psychology mid tier?? Are you fucking kidding me? That piece of shit degree is what everyone who has no fucking clue what theyre doing graduates with
funny, that's what they say about business-students in my country
>not the business/law school equivalent of natural science
I'll fight you, anon.
Different anon here, I'm doing Computer Science & Software Engineering, Maybe our units are similar. Units are:
Computer Systems Structure
Fundamentals Of Computer Studies
Introduction To Software Development
Principles Of Programming
Concepts And Technologies Of Artificial Intelligence
Object Oriented Programming And Software Engineering
Systems Development And Modern Database Practices
Comparative Integrated Systems
Research Methodologies And Emerging Technologies
Social And Professional Project Management
>MUH DEGREE DOES EVERYTHING
Like any employer wants to some punk ass kid who can tell all about transsexuals in classic Greek history. You are better off getting degree in something relevant to the work you want to do.
Honestly you're better off just finding an entry level IT job and working your way up.
If college is somehow a better route for you (government throwing money at you, parents paying, etc) then just an Information Technology degree.
Still start actually doing it as soon as possible.
College doesn't prepare you for shit.
>Are there any good computer-related things that don't involve math?
'computer related' as in 'uses a computer at work' ? a ton.
you can also do stuff like maintenance, IT, graphics design, 3d modeling, sound guy, pretty much any 'art related work'...
but the higher developing positions are more engineering-like. and you NEED a sound understanding of math for that.
after all, computers are just machines that do a lot of math very fast
software engineering is kinda an emphasis in computer science. In my school, at least, you can focus of software development in your upper-level classes. You can also focus on things like 3D object design, cryptography, Theory, Big Data, and much more. Intro CS classes tend to cover very basics of all these ideas to get you interested in what you like
A friend of mine did really well in his chemistry major but ultimately winded up into a soup factory doing drone work. If you're not bullshitting that's the kind of money everyone wants
>even bothering with a degree if you're planning on just making video games or going into software engineering, let alone anything other than CS
Enjoy your debt you fucking retard.
>Honestly you're better off just finding an entry level IT job and working your way up.
I'm sorry anon, but I really don't get what you mean.
I would love to not do college and just like...do an apprenticeship and work my way up.
But from what my parents told me I need some sort of college degree to do anything.
I really appreicate this insight though
>"Im studying English literature"
>"I am going through a librarian course"
Those were the best ones I heard
>No education or history
Fuck you too buddy
>Making over 200k a year
Shit nig you're loaded. Do you raffle off vidya a lot?
>Honestly you're better off just finding an entry level IT job and working your way up.
Yeah, have fun with that unpaid indentured life.
>so do you have a degree?
>no i but I did do a bunch of unpaid work
Comp sci graduate (who ended up doing a lot of engineering papers because I stupidly made my degree choice without understanding the difference)
Comp Sci is theory
Software Engineering is application
Generally you want to go for software engineering.
>always think about doing education
>realize it will never be like my chinese visual novels
No trolling, it worked out well for me.
But the main thing is that you have to have a good work ethic to get a good graduate job.
Make small websites in your own time, even if they're shitty tumblr clones which you never actually use. Show initiative.
>Being sad despite making that much money
>Not fucking the living daylights out of your dream girl
also, here is the list of courses you would take at my school during your junior and senior year if you wanted to be a software engineer
>Literature, art and women's studies should be in Kill Yourself tier
Literature and art really shouldn't. Or rather, maybe they should, but it's honest to God not the fault of the Humanities in and of themselves that they've been co-opted in academia by SJWs and Cultural Marxists.
In a fair world, Lit and Art would be demanding degrees that required actual technical skill in writing and painting/draftsmanship, as opposed to the hugboxes they are now.
That's also why Music isn't a low tier degree either. You have no idea how demanding and technically focused (to the point of overdoing it, even) the atmosphere at a conservatory is.
He probably went calculus monkey mode (this is how we used to call it back in the Uni).
You HAVE to either be extremely smart in the research areas or have a manager-like behavior.
If not, engineering will make you become only a calculus monkey, a trained drone that only obeys and calculates shit for other people.
This is the major engineering tip I can give.
ah okay. nah computer science didn't seem to be what i wanted, so i went with software engineering. I just want to make games, so any finger in the right direction is helpful.
Seems close. Differences obviously.
That makes sense. Thanks, I want to end up in software development. Was told to go to software engineering to get there. So i'll stick with SE for now, seems to be where I want to be.
That's the thing though, History isn't just about history. It involves many courses in math, science, politics, and writing. Not as part of Gen. Ed. either, a History degree requires much more of those classes than standard Gen. Ed..
The most important thing your employer knows about you is that you are good at reading and writing, which is a very highly sought after skill for many jobs.
I kinda buy into the "college is useless in internet age" jargon but then again nobody claims on their resume they graduated from google, and the ones that did became laughing stock.
Don't take /v/ advice, you're here because you can filter info and choose what's best for you.
>mfw from family of poorfags
>mfw I worked as an artist and made decent money for what I did
>mfw I realized artists need rich parents to subsidize their lives.
>mfw I had to go back to school
>mfw computer science major
>tfw changed CS to economics
Atleast I like it far more than CS, atleast I can give actual fucking tips to friends and dont need to hide or describe exactly what CS is to normalfags
I will probably go to a bank tho
Im glad im not american tho
>Living in a country with no top 100 Universities
Even the Canadians are laughing at you
Hey! that's me back then.
I ended up programing for an insurance company though.
>pic related if you know what I mean
>"says here you 'studied on the internet'?" how exactly does that make you qualified"
I'm getting a CS associates solely to get the one true benefit of a degree:
Something to wave around for employers to see that I can actually apply myself
Actually getting a CS job is laughable because I can only afford to go to super cheapo college, so of course they only teach you simple syntax, and never bridge that gap between "Here do this tiny math problem that makes these words go on the screen" and "How to make something another person would actually use"
It seems to me like no matter what course you pick, somebody will always say "This will never get you a job". It’s honestly stressing me out as somebody who's
18 and on their last year of high school
That's why you look at where the demand is in your country, and work towards getting402 high paying job there instead.
Unlesss you're A material, you're not getting a job in the pure sciences.
There is literally nothing wrong with computer science considering there are a shit ton of jobs out there for graduates in the UK.
Wish I had done it instead of Electrical Engingeering
Then why don't you get a degree in journalism, english, or an accounting related major? Why go for a jack of a trades degree that is overly inflated in the current market? If you want to get into management even a pleb business management degree is a better option.
I'm actually in a community college right now.
But I'm the one majoring in Computer Science.
I guess I should try to talk to an advisor?
Man this is so confusing and uneasy, and it's real stressful cause you don't want to go to far, waste too much time or money in a field you hit a brick wall and realize you're just not capable of
Thank you. This thread has helped put a few fears to rest. Just hope I can handle it, should have no problem. Thanks anons.
This actually seems like what I want.
So many majors are too similar. Excited to start college. On the way to do what I want to do in life.
everyone on /v/ just likes to give each other copious amounts of shit. Just to what you are passionate about.
That being said, getting something outside a STEM based degree won't get you a job
>"your portfolio says you 'made some sick scripts that totally fucked up someones facebook i think', how does that work exactly?"
what's with the psychology hate?
i mean i get that there are a bunch of stupid cockmonglers among them but it seems to be interesting
i mean everywhere are people talking nonsense
>LOOK MA I'M A DOCTOR
The professor gave a valid response without going into detail why this guy is just baiting or whatever.
CS is not about playing vidya and google. This is the reason why 99% of the people drop out by Logical Programming or anything similar.
>in college now
>majoring in history
>mfw anyone ask my major
Hope it works out for you too.
currently making £55k in London 3 years after graduation, with bonuses at least equalling my salary. That's what you can look forward to if you're good.
>Want to go into middle school specifically, the one no one WANTS to do
>Getting a teaching degree and certificate in Illinois
>Basically means I'm qualified to teach in any state
>History major secondary education with a something or other I forget the term in English
>Bachelors in Science too cause lolart
>Gonna try to teach English to 3rd world babbies for the peace corp
>Mfw all this marketability
Imma be swimming in job oppurtunities and I got hella connections
Literally no degree will get you a job. That used to happen in the past because going to college was way more rare, but now that never happens. You won't graduate and have people call you asking you to accept a job anymore.
You have to show passion and skill during an interview now to get a job, despite having a degree saying that you have both.
That's just the way it is.
>STEM trying to justify their shallow lives
I knew someone who majored in biology and is now teaching english to korean kids
You can also major biology and land in a film studio, your career only goes as far as you're skillful
>tfw 4.0 with 3 semesters left in computer engineering degree at a decent (for public) school
>awarded for being top 1% of college academically
>nobody in interviews has ever even mentioned this beyond "oh cool"
I just want all of you to know that are starting out, grades are a waste of time.
Just make cool shit, build up a portfolio, and fuck the grades.
Develop a great personality and speaking skills, and do a shitload of networking, and you'll easily be employable.
Honestly, it doesn't matter tremendously what your degree is so long as you are a master networker.
>listened to /v/ and my parent's advice about what to study
>ended up picking accounting because science and math 2hard4me
>realize accounting takes more memorization than basic high school science (which i barely passed)
>other business fields require me to be social, which i cant do
neets dont know how good they have it. i guarantee im failing out by the end of this semester
If you are not STEM get the FUCK out of this thread you basic unemployed bitches.
>overly inflated in the current market
Computer Science and Business are literally the top majors at most colleges surrounding me. The scales are tipping, and soon the Liberal Arts majors will b e back in demand.
UK CS 2014 grad here.
If it's anything like ours, first year is just getting everyone up to speed (don't expect Haskell, don't expect anything challenging if you know Java reasonably well)
2nd year is alright, take optionals that you really don't know (not web dev, something like German or whatever) it's the only time you will.
3rd is where V-TEC kicks in (if you're a scrub). I did a lot of 'pure-CS' stuff, algorithms, FP, compiler theory etc.
>Keep having this fear i'm going to finish college and find out it's not what I wanted at all.
It's cool, I had exactly that happen to me this year. I did a masters in computer science with games development and after doing ten times as much work as the guys on the regular computer science masters I decided it wasn't worth it. Having decided that, I was so worried about after graduation that I ended up drinking half a bottle of vodka a night just to get to sleep. Then I got a job after like 3 interviews. Provided that it's a good course, the stuff they'll teach you will be really easily transferable to any kind of computer science job. Don't worry too much about it.
Exactly this. The thing is, most people spend so much time with exams and course work they can't do anything that show's they're passionate about their field. It's a legitimate trap created by older generations so they can keep their jobs longer.
exploring stuff with lasers n shit
>being a gen ed
>finally stop being a faggot and pick a fucking major
>find out you took too many bullshit classes that aren't relevant
Whatever you say granddad. There is literally no reason to go to college at all, we are well and truly into the information age. You could learn any skill you desire right now at the click of a button with no strings attached and if a career is what you are after build a portfolio as you learn which far beats out a certificate as it shows experience outright. Hell, there isn't even a single certificate outside of medical certification that can't be acquired online either.
>graduated with a computer science degree
>half the jobs I've interviewed for only ask for you to be educated up to GCSE or A Level
I've been thinking recently that I should have considered doing an apprenticeship. Uni was a mixed bag and I got really bad marks (D gets Degrees and all that).
People always go for degrees to get them jobs in those fields. History majors are different, they get a degree that opens up to many fields.
This is, of course, at the cost of having no specific career path in mind.
>having goals in life
oh wow what a loser
fuck off OP
>Be 18 years old
>Go to college, pick Programming/Engineering
>Most of my classes are about complicated stuff that I've never even heard of
>Teachers just give you a brief summary, tell you the what you have to do and what date you have to present it and then start being lazy cunts during the rest of the classes, not giving your advices/explaining how you're supposed to do that shit or anything.
it's useless. Sure, I think it is important to be well read and understand it on a deeper level, but in terms of the workplace, nobody is going to pay you $100,000 a year to read Great Expectations and give me a 15 page essay on Pip
A degree isn't what gets you the job. It certainly helps (just having a degree shows you can sit down and apply yourself), but it's not all of it.
If you go into something where this is applicable, your college classes can help you build a portfolio to show off things you can do. College is also great place to start networking in your chosen field and also a place to experiment to see WHICH field you want to go into. Sadly if you're a poorfag (like me) you don't get that luxury and you have to find something and stick with it to the bitter end, liking it or not.
The only way a degree would really net you a job is if you go into something like anesthesiology.
You are totally delusional dude, heres a recent Georgetown survey. https://www.cgsnet.org/ckfinder/userfiles/files/Unemployment_Final_update1.pdf
Wheres your stats man? Oh that's right you're a humanities major.
>hey guys i wanna make vidya
>I-I ONLY UNDERSTAND DESIGN NOT CODING
>W-WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT CAN'T BE IMPLEMENTED
>W-WHWAT DO YOU MEAN DO IT YOURSELF
Please. Comp-Sci is the ultimate for people taht want to actually make games, you get all the kills you need, and merely by existing you give artfags a purpose. You are literally a god.
Game design isn't taught, its a completely subjective experience, because remember that most corps think good game design is what makes them money, not what is actually FUN
You're an unhappy person though, so you would never have done a art major.
That's the thing, you have the cause and effect wrong, you aren't unhappy because of the degree, you got the degree because you are the kind of person who would put money above happiness.
So what is the best course for a career in the game industry? CS? Software Engineering? Game Design? Game Development? Rank em.
> and soon the Liberal Arts majors will b e back in demand.
Okay anon, you have five minutes to justify this outlandish claim. Keep in mind I am currently majoring in French and minoring in English
Not that bullshit you write in your CV, but being known as "that guy who gets shit done", which is less than you are expected to be if you become a manager.
> Problem Solver
Be that guy who looks for shit to fix and to get straight. You sniff trouble and FIND A WAY TO FIX IT. (pairs with pro-activity)
> Be Good With People
I don't mean be a TV host, you can be quite shy, but you HAVE to know how to behave and communicate in a way that people will like you
Know your shit, know everything, a manager is supposed to manage many people with different jobs. Many engineers become specialized in one thing and know this thing only: this kills the manager.
> Don't Deliver Shit Late
Just do everything in their time and be iffy about your schedules.
This sums it up pretty much. You also need to be able to deal with a shit ton of information coming from all directions and to be able to lead in the mess they make.
I'm going through EMT right now and Paramedic after that. Mostly, I just want to be called PARAMEDIC, but the extra money is nice. I sure can't wait to have 12 hour shifts of chaos and frequent callers for only 38k a year. But if I have a heart attack, at least I'll probably be in the ambulance already.
So has anybody even supplied an explanation as to why you would not major in computer science if you wanted to make games or are you losers going to listen to this hightime FAGGOT who posts internet taunts?
You can't outsource any project to India. The only time it actually works is when you outsource to a company for the project's entire lift time.
Programmers will never have to worry about losing their jobs to outsourcing.
Software engineering if you want to code.
Be generally good at art if you want to do other things.
I have absolutely nothing against CS majors and genuinely enjoyed every class I took that was more CS focused.
But I have seen so many CS majors close to graduating that cannot code worth shit.
Nobody cares if you can describe how data structures work.
Can you actually fucking implement them and use them to make more complex shit?
>Do absolutely awful my first year at uni
>Only pass one paper
>It's not even what I came to uni for (botany)
>End up enjoying it a lot
>Make it my major
>Get conditional enrolment into 2nd year, only if I retake a few papers and get good grades
>Fast forward to this year
>4th year Botany major with a minor in Ecology and Zoology
>Getting B+s and As easily
>Decide I want to continue onto a masters degree next year
>Get told I should wait for this semesters results as I need a B+ average to get it
>Freak the fuck out and think it's the average for my entire academic record
>Do the maths
>My average is a C
>Holy fuck my first year is dragging me down what do i do ohgodicanthandlethis even if I get 4 A+s this semester it wont be enough
>Lecturer calms me down and says it's the average for your third year papers only
God that was stressful, I almost had to change my entire life plan
the only worry I have is companies are losing IT departments because now entire companies exist to be the IT department of multiple companies. So instead of hiring 5 IT guys for one company, the company just pays for the service of a company that is like 30 IT guys
>majored in computer science
>don't want to make video games, but mobile games are very profitable
>get a job making mobile apps, form a team on the side to make mobile games
>life is great
>Second year Economics major
I never thought I would actually know some of the stuff about business that seemed too confusing. I like it too, whenever asks they act like I'm crazy but it's just basic math/graphs and looking at do$h
Arguably the best one out there
Can be automatized
Depends on the first and second and has a low risk of getting irrelevant due to the introduction of perfect AI's some point in history
Its not untouchable really
Its like contributing to your own unemployment
>all these people in thread claiming college is useless when the internet exists.
Well? If college is so useless then what job do you have with knowledge gained only from the internet? Are you currently an engineer, a lawyer, a doctor, an accountant? Of course not. you either have no job or are working for minimum wage and waste the rest of your day shitposting on /v//
>have been a manager in the past
>my spaghetti prevents me from the good with people part
Luckily i'm so good at the problem solving and pro-activity part of being a manager that people want me, Knowledge is easy and so is the last part.
You WOULD major in computer science if you want to make games. But just because you want to make games doesn't mean you SHOULD major in computer science.
There's a lot of math involved in getting your degree, and what you learn is more on the technical side of game design, which may scare off some people with a lack of STEM skills.
If you only want to make video games, try a digital arts degree.
If you want to program anything, and have the option to make video games, then yes, go for a computer science degree.
>cannot code worth shit
>this is the fault of the students
so young. so naive.
get out while you can
I majored in Computer Science to fix computers, and cry into my sleep each times people bring me a computer with 1,2k+ spywares on them.
I majored in Computer Science to build 20-30 PC for schools or cities for an easy $25k in one week.
Everyone is afraid of getting a "useless degree", you need no more proof than this very thread.
When people want a "useful degree" they are instantly pushed towards Business or Computer Science because they are booming.
You can just guess what the fuck is going to happen in about 10 years: CompSci and Business grads will not be able to get any jobs because they are all full from the current boom of previous grads.
The choice is yours, get a degree that the majority of college grads will have, or get one that you know they won't have and will teach you things they could never learn.
>tfw started CS a few weeks ago and already starting to regret it
God damn it, why didn't I go for math/physics. I can already program so I'm bored out of my ass right now.
I'm doing a BA in English & American Literaure with Creative Writing.
Can I write video game stories?
How can you graduate with a fucking masters and still not be able to do something as simple as a fizzbuzz?
There is no excuse.
I'm going to be starting a Bachelor of Arts with a Major in English next year, been working a gap year to prepare myself financially. I'm super excited to get back into an academic environment, blue collar work really numbs the mind
>Can be automatized
I don't think you understand what engineers do. They aren't the guys turning the wrench, they are the guys who design the wrench.
Stop smoking the ganja carl.
It largely depends on the institution they graduated from. CS is a largely academic field with little practical work involved and that is how most universities teach it. If one were to go to college to take a software engineering course, the opposite would be more likely.
>zero IT qualifications
>work as a sub contractor for home user and small business IT support
>change 120/hr for data transfer, ring ISP because people forget their passwords and run malware bites to remove all the ride-alongs and trojans they download
>making connections is everything guys
>STEM is everything guys
>when you have crippling social anxiety and have never initiated a conversation with someone during 5 years at university in a non STEM major
>thread about university and degrees
>my old uni is on fire right now
>Start a 5 year masters program in computer science with the dream of becoming a vidya dev.
>slowly realize computer science is not vidya,
>feels bad man
>do bachelor thesis for a big oil company
>asked my mentor at the oil company what the starting pay in the company was for someone with a CS masters degree.
>feels good man
Don't fall into the trap of what I did and not do very much at home. Granted I'm depressed, but thats no excuse to keep from applying yourself
They WILL NOT teach you how to code for a program that another human being will use. You have to make that jump yourself and you may very well be completely lost for quite a while.
Also, never be afraid to google how to do shit, because if you're making code as a job you're gonna be doing it on a computer with internet access.
>Majoring in applied math to make a web browser
Software engineering and nepotism. I'm just an office worker though, no spying for me. It's easy to apply and a nice job, just be sure to have your top secret security clearance before the interview, it will go smoother that way.
You wanna' see something that never happens on /v/?
You're 100% right. I don't know shit about physics, and I just wanted to shitpost a little while taking my NEET-frustration out over someone doing something a lot more complicated than anything I could ever understand. I genuinely sorry. And now you're wondering if I'm joking. I'm not.
CS degrees are not the majority coming out of most colleges. Colleges are actually more female than male,
Males are over-represented in STEM fields in both college and actual shit.
If you actually look at the number of STEM majors, let alone Computer Science/software engineering majors coming out of college, we literally CANNOT MEET THE DEMAND of the industry
CS is like free jobs right now, and for the foreseeable future as the modern world becomes more and more digital, those who can code will be invaluable.
>Being able to work anywhere in the modern world because comp sci is need everywhere
>Making only a little less than the "God tiers" on that list
>Lying about your job because it sounds nerdy and just saying engineer sounds a little cooler
Computer science is really only bad if you fuck it up, I think people think it's shit because a lot of gamer designers have a comp sci degree, so it drags down the average.
Only if you're a retard that doesn't know how to sell himself. If you honestly believe a company wouldn't immediately hire somebody that has shown themselves to be the most qualified regardless of what certification they hold you are a mong.
Feels funny. People are retarded when it comes to computers. I used to do it for $20/hour when i started. I know places that ask $60/hour to do that kind of shit.
Check Google, read manuals, most of the time.
>tfw I became a CS major because I wanted to build complex AI, hoping to become one of the first scientists part of a group creating the first actually sentient AI
>mfw I learn how much of a failure the AI field is, and how the "top" researchers of the field have their heads so far up their asses
>mfw the field is being encouraged to split up and specialize, even though that won't get us anywhere because the researchers will end up putting their knowledge to more practical applications
>mfw the only people who seem to care about the field now are Google, and they are shitting it up by making it more about data analysis than the studying of human cognition
>mfw I will never make 7th generation onaholes
Let's get this started
>college is useless in internet age
Well yeah, of course. That's not to say that you can't go on to make video games after you've majored in CS though.
I'm currently a CS major, and worked on video game projects for a couple of my classes. They turned out pretty decently.
That's mostly how mine works too.
There are several courses focused on larger scale projects however that are NOT part of the CS curriculum but are part of CpE at my school.
is more what I was getting at, sorry if it wasn't clear.
That's why I said I have nothing against it.
But a lot of people don't even realize the difference until its too late and they don't know what they thought they should know.
This is totally the fault of the students, I'm merely explaining that here (along with several other people) in the hopes someone reads it and pays attention when they start signing up for classes or deciding a major to work towards.
>Don't fall into the trap of what I did and not do very much at home. Granted I'm depressed, but thats no excuse to keep from applying yourself
Man even lame ass Canadian spying still sounds like fun. I bet you have to serve in the military though or something. How is living in Ottawa? I've heard some people say it's a nice little city and some other people say it's a shithole
Those cookies look fucking delicious, how do I make them?
Nobody said it was useless, just that autodidactism is vastly superior when you have thousands of experts and veterans at your fingertips willing to give you a leg up for free. Unless of course you're one of those "b-but muh qualifications mean everything, employers are robots and degrees are magic instant job passes!" faggots.
i don't think you know anything about engineering anon
engineering doesnt mean wearing yellow helmets and using wrenches to put screws in buildings
it's a creative design process aiming for a result that has to fulfill tight constraints and specifications.
research and development of new technologies can't be automated either, anon.
>mfw my families desktop breaks
>offer to fix it (I was just going to google shit for a few hours and probably run malware bytes)
>they say no, "anon you probably broke it with those games"
>I explain I built my own pc and any shitty games on theirs was probably my little brother
>they still refuse and get some guy who is only a year or so older from bestbuy to fix it
>they charge like 90 bucks
>check it out when it gets back
>it runs fine, all they did was instal malware bytes and run ccleaner
I'd be mad but that fact you can run a business and make money doing that is something I gotta respect
Once you get this far to realize how little the human race will accomplish in your lifetime, and how small the percentage is that you will have anything to do with those accomplishments, you have no "homies" left
Thank you, I did not know that I could freely download the equipment and machinery that is needed for certain experiments in certain STEM majors to develop a solid understanding. You sure have taught me a valuable lesson, random NEET.
Are Software Engineering and Computer Science usually offered in a hybrid class or are they usually separate?
>tfw you got into CS because vidya
>horrible programming grades
>bored as fuck
>"well...just gotta wait till later..i-it gets better..."
>Can't still program shit
>Start to learn assembly
>Go to economics
>Be happiest you ever been at college with B's and A's everywhere
Atleast I will not kill myself at 40 years old now
>Well the process of designing the wrench can be patterned and automatized
But that's only because the wrench has already been designed. What happens when you need to design something that doesn't exist?
>If you need upgrades, physicians can do that just as well
Oh god forget it, you're a baiting retard
>take on a CS degree at an average university
>get a first class honours
>realise that I have no interest in programming as a career
>get completely lost thinking of other jobs I'd like to try
>end up getting a job in Software QA
>getting a degree to get a job
You realize that you are setting yourself up for failure as soon as you get into an interview, right?
>"Why did you major and Computer Science and why do you want this job?"
>I... uh... I- I wanted money??
>mfw EE major
>mfw it's actually pretty fun
Why do so many people bitch about Engineering? Building circuits and writing down results, working with complex numbers and applying functions to real life, it's so much fun.
Does he have a engineering degree?
If I had went different paths I would like to have gone down to physics
Its goat, but my fucking shit-tier physics education at high school never allowed this feeling to nurture
Fuck you OP I
got my System Engineering degree and still cant make games ;__;
If you want it to go anywhere you need to do it full time, If you get someone's money sure get some "homies"
get out fast anon. There are several places that require that you didn't get a degree from DeVry. Also
>He goes to DeVry
He has highly intelligent intelligence and is very intellectual, anon.
Philosophy won'y get you a job man. I'm taking a minor in philosophy because I find it genuinely interesting but my major in Engineering possibly branching into Physics if it takes.
I'm majoring in computer science and minoring in Math. I don't wanna double major cause I'd have to take a fuck ton of physics classes and I am horrible at Physics (they make them as hard as fucking possible here).
The key word being just as qualified. If you put "degree" on your resume and some other guy puts down "30 years of practical experience" you can be damn certain they are going to give the snivelling child the boot. As a bonus I have seen the opposite of your scenario happen dozens of times. .
I don't think it's that extreme but yeah I've noticed a lot more girls than guys.
How do I justify being a virgin? Focusing on my studies. At least for the last 2 years I have been, now I'm trying to work on meeting some people. So now my excuse is that I'm a shut-in.
>Go into IT, because I'm shit at math.
>Highest math I have to go to is Pre-calc.
>Do well in every math class.
>Get hyped for pre-calc.
>Getting an F so far.
Studying 2 hours a night just isn't cutting it. It's like my brain simply refuses to learn. It's even worse that there's no partial credit, the tests are all online, and we can't use calculators.
When will I even need to use this shit? Statistics makes sense. I got that. But why would I need pre-calc for web design or database development?
500k. STARTING. Any job I want.
A lot of colleges fall under the trap of getting all the theory and syntax done, but never application.
So you have a fuckton of CS students being released with no idea how to translate their degree into the skill that is expected out of it.
It's especially bad for the kinds of students who have a bad time learning on their own. I'm the kind of person who can stare at a book about a new topic and it'll be like I suddenly became illiterate. And then someone will explain it to me and I'll have a blank look trying to parse it, until it finally is repeated in a way where everything clicks and I can suddenly do the next ten chapters of the book with ease.
Shouldn't have panicked.
You never fucking need it unless you want to become highly specialized in embedded systems design and nobody enjoys using it.
Just reading it makes me ill.
Glad you're happier now though anon.
>Not actually doing shit on the side while getting your degree so you actually have shit to put on your resume
Why do people assume this
how are you so shit at programming
also programming in assembly is probably the most pure form of procedural design and you'd have to be an idiot to not understand it unless it was doing bit-masking or optimization
>There are people on /v/ RIGHT NOW who are not in ROTC or at an Academy, studying a STEM field, with goals of becoming a fighter pilot.
>that feel when nothing in university interests you
reading this thread and seeing how adamant and enthusiastic people are about their fields is depressing...so much so i actually think people are pretending to enjoy what they study so they dont suicide
No you should just be motivated to bullshit. You know they don't expect you to be honest right?
Just give some generic answer like
>I like solving problems with a team and computer science seemed ideal for that
>STEM faggots think they are in charge of the world
That's what I said when I heard it. I don't know if it's because of interview pressure or because they're looking for a cleaner solution in a short time frame, but it seems to be a common thing.
Lots of CS majors with even fucking masters can't program for shit.
I am graduating with a degree in computer science this year and many game design studios already have my resume sent out to them
I am well aware of how the industry works and know all the horror stories and problems that the current market suffers from.
it all doesn't matter
I promised myself when I was 6 years old playing on my SNES that one day I would help make the things I love and no amount of your shitposting will stop me
That's why you don't act like a hoitey toitey SOB just because you have a degree. No matter what your qualifications are there is always someone who is more qualified than you. However my starting pay was raised by quite a bit just because of the degree. It's like being an Eagle Scout and going into the U.S. Military. Gives you an extra boost.
I'm going into calculus with trigonometry on my engineering course. I can get all of this but my calc professor is fucking terrible with explanations, a pure math major through and through.
HE can proof it twelve ways to sunday but not really EXPLAIN it.