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>No Morrowind thread What is wrong with you people? Don't

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>No Morrowind thread
What is wrong with you people? Don't you like God-tier rpgs?
>Immortal Morrowind thread
Let's discuss how Morrowind is superior to every other RPG out there
Just one book in Morrowind has more lore than your typical RPG (don't bring that Dark Souls rpg lore crap in here, go make your own thread)
Also the superior Magic System and the dice DnD combat that most casuals don't like it (I'm fine with it)
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Posting pictures of awesome Morrowind Mods
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>>261959228
>tfw you'll never see a more detailed mod than Tamriel Rebuilt in your life
Even the mourning guards pauldrons are leaning down
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>>261959749
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>>261958571
>dark souls lore
I see that crap alot and they can't even prove that dark souls has lore
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>dice combat most casuals don't like
>casual for not liking combat that isn't visually or mentally engaging

Morrowind did good on the following:
>atmosphere
>pacing
>guilds

It's a great RPG, no arguing there, but best RPG of all time? I don't see it.
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>>261960485
The only thing they have to defend their "lore filled game" is a description of a hat
A fucking hat
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>>261960806
It is the best RPG of all time
Not everything is based on combat aka (skyrim - oblivion)
You actually need to explore first and go see some exotic places before even doing combat (even Caius tells you you're too weak)
Unlike Skyrim (killed my first dragon at level 3 what the fuck?) RPGs nowadays are for kids 9-12 they're so dumbed down
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>>261958571
>Let's discuss how Morrowind is superior to every other RPG out there
I like morrowind but you are faggot
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>>261961264
>like Morrowind not live in it
You're the faggot
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>>261961173

>not everything is based on combat
>it's the best RPG of all time
>except for the GAME part of Role Playing Game

The writing isn't that fantastic enough to warrant it being the best RPG of all time coupled with the shitfight that is the combat. The dialogue system is a goddamn mess and the world itself is ugly as sin. Interesting? Absolutely, but it looks like shit.

>inb4 muh mods
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>tfw you'll never summon a horde of Daedra to wreck and ruin towns in newer TES games
Why? In Oblivion you can summon daedra (that is destroying Cyrodiil) and no guard will attack you what a fucking shit of a game
In Morrowind they attack even your Bonewalkers not just Daedra
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>>261961520
>The writing isn't that fantastic enough to warrant it being the best RPG
Ever read The 36 Sermons Of Vivec? I guess not
>coupled with the shitfight that is the combat
Not training to kill creatures is a waste like Oblivion and Skyrim
IRL you actually need t train before you can hold a sword and kill shit
>The dialogue system is a goddamn mess
Yes because you must rely on magical map markers that somehow magically shows you the way inside a cave and a specific chest you need to search
>the world itself is ugly as sin, it looks like shit.
Have you eve played vanilla Morrowind >pic related
Also Oblivions is more ugly as fuck, those fucking potato faces? really?
And not to mention Morrowind is released in 2002
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>>261962380

>Ever read The 36 Sermons Of Vivec?
>ever read that one book in the game? It makes up for the dumb, heavy handed second half of the plot. Honest.

>not training to kill creatures is a waste like Oblivion and Skyrim
>IRL you actually need to train before you can hold a sword and kill shit

Both are false. Also the "durr you don't have da aptitude ta hit stuff" excuse is fucking horseshit because it isn't coupled with the gameplay. If you want to bullshit and go "Well, maybe it'll bounce off of the armor of somebody? Maybe they dodge!" then provide visual associations with those instead of just having your sword swing clean through a body with no effect. It's lazy.

>The dialogue system is garbage
>proceeds to go on a fucking quest marker rant

Really?

>cherrypicks one of the few places that isn't just brown, bad textures stretched over the ground next to 5 pointed, tall mushrooms

>also Oblivions is more ugly as fuck, those fucking potato faces? really?

Potato faces > flat 2D texture on a model that looks like a cat's asshole.
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Dunmer, everyone.
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r8 dunmer pls
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>>261959395
is there a lore reason they wear that kind of helmet?
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>>261963165
>ever read that one book in the game? It makes up for the dumb, heavy handed second half of the plot. Honest
Do you eve have a proof that Morrowind doesn't have lore or you're just shitposting?
>cherrypicks one of the few places that isn't just brown, bad textures stretched over the ground next to 5 pointed, tall mushrooms
Morrowind has an exotic flora are you even trying?

>The dialogue system is garbage
>proceeds to go on a fucking quest marker rant
>Really?
Yes because dialogue plays an important part in a game and in a quest

>Potato faces > flat 2D texture on a model that looks like a cat's asshole.
2002 again
And The faces are more unique than Oblivion stop trying
>Vanilla Morrowind
>>261963630
That's OpenMW in it's alpha stage, try updating retard
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>>261962380

The Sermons are unintelligible to anybody who doesn't have the wiki up right next to them.
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openMW getting real near being released
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>>261964173
I don't use OpenMW, that's just a strange glitch I've been experimenting with.
I use Command on people inside a Vivec Plaza, then pull them outside. They then wander on their own and will eventually start glitching out like that.
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>>261964782
>no Morrowland videos I can find
Where are the Let's Players when you need them?
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>>261964167
Necrom is the city of the dead
They honour them by mourning their deaths like every dunmer does to his ancestors
So the helmets make them look like they're crying or mourning the deaths of their ancestors
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>>261964009
Ordinator armor best armor
And it's enchanted 8.5/10 for not using magic too
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>>261965416
cool
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DL'ed, installed and modded it yesterday.

Marksman is really fucking awful.
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>>261964782
>welcome Foxy Mama
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>>261965695
Marksman is hard to train IMO
What mods you used
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>>261965129
I will get to the bottom of this! It must be a side effect of being commanded with magic. It fries their brain.
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>>261962380
>Sermons
>example of good writing
No. No, no, no. It's heavy-handed, symbolism-laden surrealistic trash. Which is pretty much all Kirkbride does.
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>>261965916
What the fuck?
You using LCV (Living Cities of Vvardenfell) Because that might change their schedule
>>261965980
Ok Incident in Necrom? How about that amazing book?
>>261964739
You just need to know the lore more
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>>261964173

>Do you eve have a proof that Morrowind doesn't have lore or you're just shitposting?

Where did I say Morrowind has no lore? I said that the second half of the main story plot was heavy handed and shitty.

>Morrowind has an exotic flora

That looks like shit, absolute shit, even for 2002. Throwing some mushrooms up on a generic muddy brown pathway doesn't make something exotic or interesting.

>still can't dispute that the absolute mess of a dialogue system is both shittily made, but needlessly clunky

>the faces are more unique than Oblivion
>literal 2D textures on a face with nothing to set people apart besides their hair or clothes

Nostalgia fag to the absolute max.
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>>261965893
Too many to mention. But I'm using Gratinous violence.
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Anyone have that picture with a metric fuckton of characters, and also Red Mountain with something like "Almsivi was here" written here, but partially smudged?
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>>261965695
The arrow does not go in the direction of the crosshair, it's a bit off.
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>>261966170
>That looks like shit, absolute shit, even for 2002. Throwing some mushrooms up on a generic muddy brown pathway doesn't make something exotic or interesting.
Morrowind has a volcanic flora, so it's fertile you retard alot of plants will grow their or even get overgrown
>>the faces are more unique than Oblivion
I once found an exact copy of that dead emperor in another city
What the fuck?
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>tfw too casual to play morrowind
i'm the casual
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>>261966373
Never seen this
Looks cool
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>>261966236
I noticed that but it's just awful in general to level it.
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>>261966754
Go play Daggerfall
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>>261966773
That was one of two things that drew me to TES; a friend used it as his background. The other was him describing the Tribunal, Nerevarine, and Dagoth Ur.
Started with Oblivion, worked back.
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>>261966925
>Started with SKyrim and the played Morrowind
Now I hate the fucking guts of Skyrim
Also I tried Oblivion and it was meh
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>>261967156
I started with Oblivion. I fucking hate the guts of Oblivion. Skyrim was fine. Morrowind stands there right next to Torment
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>>261967156
I started with Oblivion. Borrowed it, had enough time to be enamored, not enough to see level scaling and sub-+5 go all wrong. This was late 2011, so I next tried Skyrim. Loved it, even on PSTriple. Took ages for me to really get past the slow movement speed in Morrowind.
I'd like it more if I could run it better.
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>>261966169

please stop

you're making Morrowind fans look bad
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>>261967548
>I'd like it more if I could run it better
Use Nymeria's faster walking mod
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>>261967776
That's the point of this thread
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>>261968020
No, performance. I already have a mod for speed. I have a laptoaster.
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I'll play Morrowind when Skywind comes out, don't worry.
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>>261968374

>skywind
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>>261968374
Has it stopped being horrible yet?
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>>261968581
When was it ever?
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>>261968835
Since ever
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>>261968835
Always.
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>>261968963
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>>261969159
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>>261969159
>Those tiny fucking legs
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>>261968963
I constantly see this posted, and I'm not seeing how it's a bad thing.
>Th-they're using things that might not be in the final release! FOR RECRUITMENT!
It's a big project.
>>261969159
That's from Dragonborn. Or is that posted by some idiot that doesn't realize Ash Hoppers and Scribs are different things, but is also working on Skywind?
>>261969312
I like this change. If you'd posted the new Ogrim, I might be shitter-shattered, but the Dreugh is good. Same for the Ash Ghoul.
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>>261969312
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>>261969159
You realize that's from Dragonborn, correct? It's not even the same goddamn monster.
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>>261969490
Boo
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>Morrowind GOTY comes to the Vita with better optimization than the XBOX HUEG version but with a 30fps cap and no slowdown
>Is this cool? Y/N
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>>261969858
>30fps cap
I have doubts that a hand held could even reach that, is this like those console games that have a 30fps cap and constantly go to 20
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So I'm downloading Morrowind right now, about to play it for the first time. Are there any essential mods/stuff I'm going to need?
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>>261972009
Get something to fix the combat.
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>>261972009
Code patch.
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>>261972228
I wish
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>>261961672
> 4 fps
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>>261972228
> 0 stamina
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>>261972009
www.somethingfornobody.com/blog/morrowind-modding-guide/
http://www.somethingfornobody.com/wiki/index.php?title=Morrowind
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Well, this thread is going nowhere, so let's talk about broader TES lore.

What's your favorite book? I love Nerevar at Red Mountain.

Husbandos? Miraak

I've been meaning to ask a lorefriend to explain tonal magic to me; I know the Dwemer used it on their construction, that the Thu'um is a variation of tonal magic, as well as Sword Singing--but I'm not exactly sure what Sword Singing is. Is it how they sunk Yokuda?

Reminder that Lorkhan best god and Mer a shit.
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>>261973802
Sword-singing probably destroyed Yokuda.
My understanding is that tonal magic involves manipulating the frequencies that compose the mundus, or something along those lines. For example, hitting the Heart of Lorkhan with Sunder (a hammer) produces a powerful tone, which is manipulated with Keening. Similarly, the 6th House had the bells and bellhammers.
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>>261973802
>>favorite books?
The Lusty Argonian Maid
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>>261974131
So then sound is somehow integral to the fabric of the Mundus, and not the entire Dream itself? That's strange, but cool. I wonder why?
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>>261974131
Sound is a sign. If you string enough signs one after another, you can create meaning in the fabric of reality.
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>>261974431
I know the reason.
It's because everything Kirkbride does is a desperate attempt to get attention. It's why the things he does are generally 2deep4u faggotry, like the Sermons and CHIM. It's all style, no substance.
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Reminder that Tribunal are pieces of shit that ruined a beautiful friendship and cursed their entire people.
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How is that engine mod going? Completed soon?
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>>261974772
>There are people in this thread who didnt kill Vivec
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>>261974772
They are pieces of shit, but neither of the things you charged them with were unreasonable.
>ruined a friendship
That was Dumac refusing to admit he had no idea what Kagrenac was doing. Kagrenac's plans were heathen voodoo, to the Chimer. It would have led to war, without the Tribunal's interference.
>the change/curse
That was literally Azura throwing a fit at not having absolute control over something. It's like Vivec choosing to halt the rock (Dar Bau?) instead of removing it entirely.
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>>261974723
Honestly, I don't mind it. It makes for interesting fiction, and forces you to think differently about the games you've spent hours playing, but not quite understanding.

He's pretentious as fuck and it's often very annoying, yes. But some of it is pretty cool shit, man. TES has more depth than any other thing I've seen.
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>>261974723
>we don't know how these two things tie togethere therefore everything is pretentious shit with no substance
full retard
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>>261974673
Define "sign" in this context.
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>>261975332
Maybe I should have said a symbol. A note.
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I don't see why Morrowind's combat gets shit on when literally every other RPG's shitty combat gets a pass. With its its
>lel, playing an RPG for the combat

with Morrowind its always
>lel, shitty combat
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>>261974431
Because that's how it was architected by Magnus
only correct and simple answer
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>>261975490
all them misses I guess.
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>>261975490
Because of its not like skyrim :(((
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>>261975140
They counciled Nerevar to go to war.
Dumac had no clue about the Numidium, and was hurt that his best friend didn't believe him, and disrespected him by showing up armed to the teeth and with all his soldiers.

The change from Chimer to Dunmer was a consequence of the Tribunal's selfishness. Azura may have done it, but it was because of their actions.
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>>261974723
>like the Sermons and CHIM. It's all style, no substance.
No, it has substance though
it's not like those things are mentioned once and never again
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>>261975461
So Godhead is a musician?
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>All this cancerous cocksucking for morrowind completely shutting down anyone who talks shit about it.
Never change Morrowfags, your threads will remain circlejerk forever.
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>>261975913
casual baby pls go
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I've been meaning to get together all the mods I want, but I don't want to spend hours picking through a million mods.

What are some good mods that really change and improve NPC relations? Some really good companion/waifu mods? Something that makes conversations more interesting?
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>>261975756
>Dumac had no clue about the Numidium
Bollocks
He knew about Heart of Lorkhan
He knew that Kagrenac was a Tonal Architect
He knew that he was fucking with Heart of Lorkhan
And he obviously would notice that Kagrenac's men were building some sort of giant metallic man
>Azura may have done it
I actually doubt that Azura did it
I know it's entirely possible and more than likely that she did but seeing how Azura isn't even really responsible for Nerevarine and it has more to do with Mantling I think that Dunmer "curse" might be some side effect of Tonal Architecture use or warping of Heart of Lorkhan
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>>261974893
By the end of the year, hopefully.
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>>261975328
Kirkbride defense force, pls zero-sum and stay zero-sum.
>>261975756
>and was hurt that his best friend didn't believe him
But what Dumac told Nerevar was that this whole "messing with the heart of a dead god" thing was just hooey, which was a lie. Dumac did not admit to ignorance.
>it was because of their actions.
Their actions did not reflect on the Chimer as a whole. Again: Azura threw a fit. It's not like the Tribunal were even halfway honest about how they achieved divinity. They knew the Chimer/Dunmer would hate them for the truth, because they were in the wrong.
>>261975860
The "substance" is that it gets used to explain retcons and is constantly referred to in out-of-universe arguments. There's little explanation for the underlying mechanics, which is why there's characters that have the necessary realizations of CHIM, but do not achieve it or zero-sum. Like Miraak.
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>>261975886
Godhead is not musician
stop listening to everyone trying to be smart about something we literally know nothing about
THE ONLY
AND I MEAN
THE
ONLY
THING
WE KNOW ABOUT TONAL ARCHITECTURE IS THAT IT USES SOULGEMS OR SOMETHING LIKE A HEART OF LORKHAN (Which is also a Soulgem for Akatosh)
For some reason Soulgem like objects "resonate" whatever that means and can warp reality to huge extent
END OF IT
NO MORE LORE ABOUT TONAL ARCHITECTURE IS KNOWN
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>>261958571
>Implying Morrowind is better than Daggerfall, the first two Fallouts, Arcanum, or the first two Baldur's Gate games
I fucking love Morrowind, but I think you're exaggerating
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>>261964173
>That's OpenMW in it's alpha stage, try updating retard
Even though the guy you replied to said it's not OMW, just wanted to point out that OpenMW's pathfinding is still fucked, they need someone with proper AI experience to give a hand
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>>261975886
More like reality solidified because of convention and heart, the first two towers. The world before was full of ever changing spirits and energy which got orderly aranged only after the towers were made. The world is a lot more stable now, but still isn't completely objective. Withor items and ideas embeded with essence that leaks from godhead's upper gradient, the world can be changed.
Sword singing uses understanding of one's own self through a lens from out of this world, guided by Hoon Ding.
Dragon Shouting uses understanding of this world in its building essence, channeled through the words of world maker himself.
Humidium is powered by the stone of the basic tower building reality.
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>>261958571
I have a serious question.

Why is Azura at the top and not on Azura's Coast?
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>>261976325
>The "substance" is that it gets used to explain retcons
Okay lets see...
>Cyrodiil gets fucked up
>MK has to save ass of Bethesda and write in Commentaries that it was Talos
What other use of it was for retcon again?
Oh yea you are one of those guys that don't actually know shit about lore
>There's little explanation for the underlying mechanics
No, there are known underlying mechanics, be it from old weatherd note or Sermons or commentaries of whatever
>Like Miraak.
So not only do you not know how CHIM works but you are also ignoring other Walking Ways which are not CHIM, that all need great knowledge and all can lead to Amaranth
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>>261958571
>god-tier
it has too many obvious flaws to be god-tier
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Nirn is made of magical gears according to Magnus's plans, right?
Maybe gears change their directions when they hear tones with metaphysical properties
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>>261977487
thread was made by some cunt but I do consider it great
I love other greats be it Arcanum or Wizardry or Ultima which most of /v/ hasn't played and all of them just like Morrowind have flaws, some even more than Morrowind
I don't like calling anything "god-tier" or whatever tier but it is one of my favorite games
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>>261977697
nah
I think that Tonal Architecture has to do with Aka-Tusk and flow of time
Dragons have Dragonshouts which is tonal warping
Dwemer were using Heart of Lorkhan that has trapped Aka
Akaviri are from fucking Dragon continent
Yoku's...well who the fuck knows
Still it's too often tied to Aka
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>>261977997
What this guy said. Morrowind has certain qualities no other RPG game even comes close to emulating, let alone surpasing. I keep it on my all time rpg list next to torment and baldur
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>>261977997
the concept of god tier is like the concept of god

we must find it within ourselves
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>>261976723
Because it's not a top-tier image.
If it's meant to show the major divine power-players of TES3, it should include Hircine. If it's meant to show Dunmer faith, pertaining to Vvardenfell, it should include Sotha Sil.
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>>261978495
Why would it include Hircine? Solstheim isn't even in that image.
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>>261978754
>absolute azura best
azura confirmed for best daedra
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>>261978625
Because Almalexia is included. She is completely irrelevant to the events of the base game.
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Speaking of Hircine, how did he get back benched so hard in Skyrim? The only time he appears is during that shitty werewolf hunt quest for his artefacts but there was an entire fucking faction centred around him and he never appears once.
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>>261978754
It's like these threads end up describing the game
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>>261978967
He probably isn't involved very strongly in his worship. Consider the origins of the Circle, which had them make a deal with witches, not the Daedra itself.
He does appear in his personal quest, though.
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>>261979161
ayy
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Im having really fun first time playing morrowind. I only use a graphic overhaul mod and a few minor mods. Currently level 8 dunmer WARRIORHHHHHH with full ebony set. Exploring a whole new world is really interesting and im having lots of fun. Also people who complain about dice mechanics in combat shouldnt complain. When you have a high weapon skill it gets too easy
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>>261979161
lmao
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>>261979268
Still, it was Skyrim. We even had Solstheim as a DLC.

You think they would have tossed us true form Hircine at least once. The one time he appears he is less than foreboding.
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>mfw Morrowind runs better with the graphics and sound overhaul
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>>261979141
>the game actually looks good
how?
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>>261979343
>it gets too easy
Morrowind is generally very broken. However, I must ask: have you started Tribunal yet?
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>>261979343
>When you have a high weapon skill it gets too easy
Ex-fucking-actly. Anyone who complains about the combat being "MISS MISS MISS" is using a weapon they're not skilled in or has a horribly optimized build. Honestly, you stop missing shit after the first 3 or 4 levels unless you're fucking stupid.
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>>261979141
Nevermind I saved them.
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>>261979560
Mods
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>>261979745
Can you give me a list?
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>>261979806
See
>>261973324
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>>261979956
Thank you.
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>>261979532
>mfw souped up MGSO with everything tuned to the max runs better than openmw with everything set to low
fuck i want to help test it but it's hard when i'm barely getting 30fps
they need to get to work on those optimizations pronto, weren't they meant to be adding multicore support too?
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>>261979707
please give me your visual mods
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>>261979617

No i havent started tribunal yet. Dont even know how to start it. Im just doing guild quests and sometimes the main quest.
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>>261980353
Let me warn you: Tribunal is a steep difficulty increase from the base game.
As far as starting it, you get attacked by the Dark Brotherhood.
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>>261980502
If you are a pure magic user Tribunal is impossible
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>>261980502
>steep difficulty increase

That's a bit of an understatement. I went from one-shotting everything on Vvardenfell to getting one-shotted in Mournhold.
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>>261980665
Yeah, basically. I don't know why everything and its mother has reflect.
>>261980682
Same.
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>>261958571
>forcing morrowind threads

fuck off nostalgia fags
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>>261979343
Started playing Morrowwind few days ago, pretty fun. Should I install a graphic mod?
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>>261958571
>Morrowind is superior to every other RPG out there

9/10 fuck my sides
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>Tamriel Rebuilt for first playthrough
Y or N?
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>>261972228
Stop using weapons you aren't trained in faggot.
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>>261981457
It's sad that people fall for such obvious bait that OP was
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>>261981834

Of course not, faggot.
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>>261981834
N. First playthrough should be as close to the original as possible.
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>>261980974

>came into a Morrowind thread to talk shit on Morrowind

How much of a faggot can you possibly be?
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>>261981834
No mods for first playthrough. That's a general rule of pretty much all games, anon.
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>>261958571

I'd love to get that as a poster or something.
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>>261982071
>not using mods to improve those shitty graphics
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>>261981834
Of course yes, you'll see some amazing stuff
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>>261980502
I'm glad that I had end-game armour and had a character that used blunt weapons so that I could wreck shit with Sunder. Plus it helped that I had all the Ash Vampire rings/amulets/belts. And even then I fucking died quite a bit.

I actually had to cheat at one point because of a boss that is so glitched it's damn-near impossible to kill the damned thing.
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>>261969490
Holy shit please don't tell me that's supposed to be an Ordinator
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>>261973802
>What's your favorite book?
I can't remember the name, but it's that short drama that's a part of one of the Tribunal quests. While you're acting it out you get attacked by an assassin.
Second favorite is that book Almalexia wrote which is a collection of short stories, I can't remember its name either
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>>261982321
Heard about that boss.
Why do you care about the Heartwight artifacts, though? I remember them being only decent, and heavy as a really heavy thing.
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>>261982826
First is Horror of Castle Xyr.
A shame the assassin was so weak.
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>>261972569
screenshots temporarily fuck up FPS, it's nothing new
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>>261958571
roll the dice

get it because the combat is shit to not forget that there are no interesting characters just copy and paste dialogue.
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>>261983027
>Horror of Castle Xyr
Yes, that one. I really enjoyed it, I wish Morrowind had lenghtier books, most of them were around 10 pages long.
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>>261982871

I found them to be pretty useful. All of them at least had a single useful enchantment on them. Even the Amulet of Heartrime had a Sanctuary enchantment (the fortify magicka and conjuration enchantments didn't help me at all). Several fortify health enchantments and a bunch of shields too.
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>>261972009
Whatever you are good at, FIND A TRAINER who teaches that weapon skill and dump all of your gold into it until it's about 50 or so. Otherwise you'll come back in a few days and post shitty webms of you sucking like here:>>261972228
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>>261984889
You know, /vg/ exists for this exact purpose. /tesg/ isn't the worst general out there, either.
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>>261985207
>/tesg/ isn't the worst general out there
Its pretty fucking close. Its nothing but waifufaggots and shitty sex skyrim sex mods.
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>>261985345
>Its
But nah, those are just the usual posters. It's pretty easy to start a conversation about lore, non-lewd mods and why Skyrim is better than Oblivion.
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>>261985207

i only get to enjoy /tesg/ when actual porn and funny shit is getting posted, it's utterly fucking awful otherwise. It's skyrim 24/7 and only mutant waifus at that.

neither have appeared in months so it's existance is more of an obstacle for good TES discussion than an aid. These /v/ threads are doing pretty good actually so i'll support them.
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Which magic looks the most cool?
Webm shows, in order: Fire-Frost-Shock-Damage-Absorb-Restore-Calm-Levitate

I didn't even know Restoration spells had such an effect. I never needed to try that out.
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>>261985794
>why Skyrim is better than Oblivion.
like he said, worst general.
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>>261980502

Oh yeah i did get attacked by dark brotherhood like two times. Great gold from their items
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>>261986408

Also, i have ebony set except for shield. Where could i find a ebony shield or should i switch to 2 handers? Which is better?
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>>261986659
If you're high enough level to encounter Golden Saints, they randomly have different shields. Sometimes Ebony, sometimes even Daedric.
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>>261986659

Got the ebony shield from a vampire lair. I almost crapped my pants when i noticed that one of them dropped ebony set. Was a hard fight tho. Had to use many scrolls.
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>>261986131
But Skyrim is ten times better than Oblivion
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>>261986078
Absorb.
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>>261986078
Absorb looks rad as fuck
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>Enter low level tomb
>Encounter skeleton archer
>2easy.jpg
>Skeleton fires arrow
>Paralyzed
>Skeleton fires another arrow while I'm still paralyzed
>Double paralyzed
>Triple paralyzed
>Quadruple paralyzed
>WOMBO COMBO PARALYSIS
>die

this game can be such horse shit sometimes.
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>>261987224

>not carrying cure paralysis scrolls
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>>261986078
Definitely calm.

But on a more serious note, Restore and Absorb are pretty cool.
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>>261987393
You can't use scrolls or spells when you're paralyzed.
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>>261987393
>scrolls
>cure paralysis
Niqqa, you dumb. Cure paralysis potions are decent.
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>>261987393
How the fuck would you use them if you can't move? They read your thoughts?
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How do i knock enemies on the ground. I've seen many opponents do this to me and it seems like a very good skill.
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>>261987725
Get rid of their fatigue/stamina. I think there's also a stagger chance built into some weapons, but I don't know how it works.
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>>261987725
You punch them really hard, repeatedly.
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>>261958571
>ALMSIVI
>Shows Azura and Dagoth Ur but not Sotha Sil
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>>261988535
Fuck Sotha Sil, I hate him so much.
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>>261988535
Sotha Sil? More like Sotha Kil


because that nigga dead
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>>261988635
Why exactly?
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>>261988635
He's the most bro of the three. Or, least abhorrent. Fuck's the matter with you?
>>261988701
HA
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>>261988535
he's too busy building a perfect world and growing insane beneath mundus
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buffscale is a worthless piece of shit and every mod he touches turns to an equally worthless piece of shit. Wonders of Mzark had promise, but it was all a clusterfuck of badly designed areas, shitty items, retarded dialogs and fucking stupid rewards
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>>261989134
>>>/tesg/
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I want to come inside Lorkhan's Heart
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>>261988058
>I think there's also a stagger chance built into some weapons, but I don't know how it works.

This is the first I've ever heard of this. I always assumed it was because they used up all their stamina during combat. Even with a brand new character in Seyda Neen using that worn dagger I was able to knock people down during combat.
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>>261982871
>tfw using the editor to make them constant effect instead of cast-on-use
I toned them down, though. I'm not that much of a faggot
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http://uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Combat#Stagger.2FKnock_Down
>One potential side-effect of damage is staggering or even knocking down opponents. Higher damage (and lower opponent Agility) will increase the chance of these effects, which means that slower, harder-hitting two-handed weapons are generally more likely to keep an opponent off its toes.
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>trying to mod oblivion
>keep crashing with the character overhaul
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Can one of you nerds help me?

I'm trying to install Tamriel Rebuilt and it says to change something in morrowind.ini, but I've looked all through morrowind and all it's fucking files for 15 minutes now and cannot fucking find it

where is the fucking thing? a search doesnt bring it up
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>>261994512
Have you run morrowind yet? It might be generated on startup
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>>261958571
There are more books in Daggerdale, you insufferable faggot.
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>No Morrowind thread

Probably because /vg/ exists for threads that are constantly reposted, OP.

Maybe you should check /vg/.
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Is it cheap to pay for training? I feel like if I use it to power level my spear up 20 levels so I can finally advance in House Redoran I'll be cheating.
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>>261994646
just tried that, still nowhere to be found
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>>261958571
>Don't you like God-tier rpgs?

I do, which is why I don't like Morrowind.
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>>261995257
It's hella cheap, man. Nothing like Skyrim's training.
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>>261995257
It's not cheap, as long as you earned the money and didn't cheat to get it.

Money feels like it's easy to come by, but that's because you're the player, and have more power and potential than anyone else.

Money is harder to get for NPCs. People in Seyda Neen complain about taxes, but if you read the records, it doesn't seem like much. While you might have no trouble paying to raise a skill from 5 to 100, the average character in the game would have to save up their entire life to afford that. So it's not like it's low priced or anything.

tl;dr it's not cheap, it's just easy for the player.
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>>261997952
Doesn't some npc cry about earning only 3 septims a year?
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>>261998348
Guess that's why bribing is so successful.
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>>262000490
>bribe 100 gold
>bribe 100 gold
>bribe 100 gold
>taunt
>taunt
>taunt
>bribe 100 gold
>taunt
>taunt
>taunt
>taunt
>That's it! Goodbye.
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What are some good custom spells to make?

I have a shitty frost damage 30 points for 2 seconds spell that I've been spamming.
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>>262001378
I'm a bit oldschool, I always use my frost damage 40 for 2 seconds.
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>>262001378
Master of Unlocking spell. Levitate spell. Soul Trap spell.
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>>262001564
Well I've got one that does 50 damage for 3 seconds fagtron
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I like to cast a long-lasting Levitate spell with a magnitude 1 on target, effectively pinning my enemy in place.

Another thing I do is cast a regular strength long-lasting Levitate spell on myself and a same strength but shorter length Levitate spell on my enemy, and run as high as I can, he follows up, and when it wears out, he falls to his death.
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>>262002060
>not going 60 damage for 4 seconds
Get on my level.
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>>262001378
Fire damage, 10 points for 10 seconds.
Restore health on touch, 11 points for 10 seconds.
Let them suffer, but don't let them die.
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>>261994512
documents moron
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No mudcrab merchant or creeper allowed, so I'm just stuck with expensive treasures slowly littering my house in Ald'ruhn

redoran4life
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>>262002731
>house in Ald'ruhn
Who did you kill?
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>>262002731
Redoran houses are comfy as fuck but I always end up going Telvanni since BUUG's stronghold blows all the other stronghold mods out of the water.
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>>262002731
>Redoran

At least it's not Hlaalu
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>>262002987
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Ienas_Sarandas_%28quest%29

Once he leaves to join the temple his house is yours to take, located next to all the merchants and near the Skar
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>>262003449
Eh, I forgot to take his house. Probably should have, given that I was Redoran.
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>>262002702
not in documents either, moron
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>>261958571
Obligatory tell me mods post

Preferably stuff that is lesser known.
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So is the mages guild in tamriel rebuilt unadvancable?

For the fighters guild, I eventually just finished all of the available quests and got ranked up until all of the local guilds were finished.

But for mages guild I apparently have more quests waiting for me once I achieve conjurer rank and I'm told that I need to perform more duties before I can be ranked up. However, there are no more questgivers in either of the guilds. The akamora guild leader says that francine should have some jobs for me, but theres nothing there. The wiki doesn't even show any quests for her.

The wiki even shows these conjurer quests, but theres no way to access them because theres not enough quests to rank up to conjurer. Am I missing something or what?

>>262002731
tfw there are no good empty houses and the only good house mods for ald-ruhn are massive sub20fps monstrosities. Being redoran is suffering.

>>262004191
mackom heads
check out tamriel rebuilt if you haven't
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>>262005158
Do you still need to pay dues in Tamriel Rebuilt? I've never tried it, so I'm just speculating.
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>>262005158
>mackom heads

I ususally don't like heads mods but sheeeiiit those look amazing
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>>262006043
Can't wait for him to finish the set. He says hes not making khajiit or argonian heads though. Such a shame.
I don't mind being stuck with these argonian heads, but I can't find anything good for khajiit.
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>>262006725
What do you suggest for the other races' faces until the mod is complete?
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I have done all miscellaneous quests. Fuck factions. Fuck daedric princes. I'm a wandering argonian doing deliveries, retrieving peoples pants, chasing holy guars and rescuing wives from cultists.
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>>262007439
>all that blank inland area
Heh. That's fucking familiar.
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>>262007581
Coast is best land. Fuck the blighted gray ashstorm deserts.
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>>262007382
I dont even know which argonian heads I'm using, but they fit decently with the mackom heads.

For khajiit there is nothing. I'm using some hidious high contrast shit because its slightly better than the already hidious default.

I patched together one of the faces from some khajiit mod and ended up with this one that I use for a khajiit companion. But all other khajiit are just so bad. I Just avoid them when taking screenshots.
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>>261961672
this pic, man
>so a fire, storm, and ice atronachs walk into a bar...
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>>262007382
oh and for the normal races that mackom hasn't done, I ripped the textures and meshes from the overhaul. They match ok at a distance.
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>>262006725

no one's done anything substantial for the beast races in morrowing yet, i always thought they needed to look better the most
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>20 hours into the game
>15% of the island explored
>still have all of Tamriel Rebuilt to explore

fucking hell
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>>262010687
Ain't it grand
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Absorb Fatigue + Poison + Restore Health. So useless but so pretty.
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>>261972228
There's like five mods that do that already. They make it so that you always hit and the formula has a greater effect on the damage you do instead of to-hit.
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>>262011510
thanks doc
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>>262011876
>Stoopid.
>subtitle is only partially phonetic
It's clearly "stoopit".
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>>262006725
Lazy cocksucker isn't doing hair either. I prefer a consistent style to some things looking better than others.
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>>261966614
Volcanic ash makes soil infertile :l
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>>262011876

what head mod is that?
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>>262011876
Blood and Gore is such a fun mod.
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Daily reminder that your faggot ass husbando Vivec is absolutely shit compared to some Redguards.

Can Vivec nuke a continent the size of North and South America into the sea?
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>>262012827
That's Mackom's heads
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>>262012859

it doesn't work for me, do i have to configure it it in some way?
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>>262013063
There's .ini settings you have to change
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>>262013193

the readme wasn't clear at all. Should there be some item in my inventory for that? what settings should i want to have?

also the nexus version gave me an error and asked for a patch i had to look up.
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>>262012949
No, but he can flood Vvardenfell while simultaneously making everyone able to breath underwater to kill invaders, then revert it.
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>>262013472
>what settings should i want to have?
Been too long for me to remember, but you gotta add the extra blood and gore effects, since those are defined the .ini
There's no inventory item
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>>261966373
>caius not smoking moon sugar
>seemingly no yagrum bagarn
Pls
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Are there any high res textures for tamriel rebuilts new armor/weapons yet? I googled briefly but couldn't find anything.

>>262012382
other people are making hair and accessories for his heads. Theres already dunmer, altmer and redguard hair I know.

>>262012827
mackom

>>262012949
>having vivec as a husbando
>liking vivec at all outside of his poetry
vivec was a faggot
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I can't remember: do people in TES refer to the sun as Magnus?
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>>262013989

in theory most people in TES should uneducated plebs that only know the most superficial aspects of their own myths instead of walking encyclopedias.
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>>262013039
>>262013859

Oooh, I thought what the guy before meant by Mackom's mod was the head piece the argonian was wearing. Thanks
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>>262013841
Hey, fuck you. They even put the Sixth House bells and hammer. For a DA fuckboy, it's pretty good.
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>>262014256
I meant in like how we can sometimes call our sun Sol, do they have like a specific, "scientific", name for it?
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>>262013671
He could also freeze a meteoroid in place above his city and decide not to not get rid of it. And that if he ever lost power, it would destroy the city.
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>>262014634
The threat he gave wasn't losing power, it was that the people must love him.
Of course, the reason it actually fell was because he..... died? CHIMed? Who gives a shit.
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>>262014925
Just sayin' it's pretty irresponsible.
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>>262014925
It fell because he doesn't give a shit about his people or his city, and just wants to take revenge on Azura
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>>262014474
They do call it Magnus sometimes
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>>262005158
There's Hassarai Assutlanipal's house you can use after you show her the ash statues and get her to attack you. Good storage, and cool basement if you have an evil character
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>>261969490
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>tfw you will never recover that feeling of playing Morrowind for the first time
>tfw you will never forget where everything is and what the quests are so you can explore again from the start
>tfw you will never be able to not be a powergaming faggot and stop worrying about how efficiently you're leveling and shit
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>>262015041
>>262015285
I'm not saying Vivec was a cool guy, just clarifying something.
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>>261969858
No, it should be on an open platform like android. Games coming exclusively to closed platforms is always bad, even if it's a platform you own and like
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>>262016335
Oh. Well, I knew that the "love" thing was the explanation he gave. I just meant that everything would go to shit if his powers stopped by any means.
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I still strongly believe that heavily modded Skyrim has the ability to be the greatest RPG of all time, hands down.
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>>261986982
In terms of graphics. And that's it
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>>261969490
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>>262015417
Thank you, Trainwiz. How are your projects coming along?
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>>262017978
Still being worked on
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>>262018016
Thanks for the update.
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>>262017264
But there's no mods to replace the shitty quests. All of them need an overhaul. Every main quest, every faction quest, and every daedra quest
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>you will never see all Mer put to the sword
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>>262020001
manfag detected
Hows that being shit tire working out for you?
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>>262018459
This. Quests are really Skyrim's biggest issue and sadly they are one of the harder things to fix with mods.
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God damnit you guys, I wanted to wait for Open MW to play again, but this makes me want to play Morrowind even more. Other than Morrowing overhaul 3.0, what are a good list of mods to get? I tried to mod it on my new PC a few months ago and the mods I liked werent around anymore, especially the NPC mod that adds a ton of interested characters to play with and have follow me around, something about the head and hair mods being gone. Does anyone have a list of the must have mods that arent the graphical ones?
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>>262020381
>mer such shit they can't even spell or use proper punctuation/capitalization
It's working out quite well.
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>>262020381
>muh Doom Drum
>muh Auri-El
>muh arcane arts
Get fucked, degenerate.
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>>262007439

>Not 100 luck

Fucking disgraceful shitter
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>>262016089
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>>261988535
THIS THIS THIS.

is that when they started getting lazy?
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>>262020659
>>262020751
*tips colovian fur helm*
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>>262021775
probably just an assmad bretonfag shitposting. Why are bretons such garbage?
Always mad about that faggy manblood stopping them from being part of the masterraces.
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>>262021745
I'm absolutely certain it's supposed to represent the major cosmic players of the game. It just doesn't have Hircine because
>muh dumbmer
>>262021775
>mer are such shit that their only method of counterargument is memes
Stay static.
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TES VI: where?
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>>262022951
2020.
The earliest.
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>>262022951
>>262023148
*Hammerfell, I hope.
I misread your question.
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>>262022951
akavir
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>>262023148
>2002 morrowind
>2006 oblivion
>2011 skyrim
>TES VI 2016 at the latest
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>>262022951

Elsweyr/Valenwood
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>>261964782
>Heaven
>Jesus
>Solstheim

some things never change
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>>261965385
I don't think you could ever play that coherently.
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>>262022951
AFTER THEY FINISH FUCKING UP FALLOUT 4.
ITS YOUR DESTINY
DLC
RADSHOUTS


fuck
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oh shit. This was posted yesterday.
The Elder Scrolls VI: Argonia

http://www.kdramastars.com/articles/35927/20140905/elder-scrolls-6-confirmed.htm
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Why is Firewatch so comfy?
It has that oblivion town coziness going for it. I could hang around in it all day.

>>262022951
I'm hoping hammerfell after playing daggerfall. Just seems like an interesting place to revisit and it would be relatively easy for bethesda.
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>>262023601
It won't be in Akavir. That wouldn't make any sense. It would be nothing like all of the other games. There are no men there. There are no mer there. Just vampire snake men, monkey men, and snow tiger men.

It would be interesting, but its so mysterious, there's so little lore referring to it, they'd have to flesh the whole thing out in one go, and that would take way too much time.

We're either getting Hammerfell or Valenwood.
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>>262023614
dev cycles get longer with time, and they had to fit in wolfenstein on top of fallout
2016 at the earliest, probably 18
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>>262023614
>2011

n-no that's not right
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>>262024126
>WE GOT TO MAKE THE 2020 DATE

fucking jews
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>>262016772

> Maybe I should move this apocalyptic meteorite before having the Neravarine completely remove my powers.
> Nah, fuck it.
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>>262024071
>no source
>no other outlet has said anything about what would be the biggest announcement of the year
>this soon after another TES game, they haven't even made a new Fallout or new IP

No.
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>>262024423
Exactly. Vivec is a metaphorical dick.
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>>262024396
9 fucking years is waaay too long. It would never meet the hype. Half a decade is long enough, I'll bet it's out November 16th, 2016 in time for crimbus
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>>262024043
>Fallout 4 trailer
>RADIOACTIVE, RADIOACTIVE
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>>262024071
Why did somebody put a wolf on that cover mock-up?
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>>262025021
>>262024054

Shit, wrong reply
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>>261987496
>>261987510
>>261987564
woosh
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>>262025781
>I-I was only pretending to be retarded!
No.
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I cant wait for the northern areas of TR to be finished, maybe in another ten years
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>>262020001
success breads jealousy.
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>>262026527
>wants to end physicality
>success
If you're so successful, why the fuck are you still here?
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First time I'm playing a female character in Morrowind. It's fun to notice all those subtle dialogue changes.
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>>262026527
>breads
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>>262027165
Is that better faces mod? Looks nice.
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>>262027165
once you start making waifus in morrowind there is no turning back.
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>>262027165
What's that robe mod called?
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>>262027693

better clothes gives you incredibly tight and form-fitting stuff.
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>>262027424
I was lazy and just used Morrowind Overhaul 3.0. I think it comes with better faces mod.

>>262027693
Again, I'm not sure. Just google what mods are included in Morrowind Overhaul.
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>>262028114
>>262027424

better heads.

it's alright if you want every female to be exactly the same supermodel.
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>>262027693
Its better clothes probably, something in the overhaul gives females different armor variants
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Finally decided to play through it after dropping it twice. After getting used to combat I'm enjoying it a lot. Any recommendations for my second playthrough? I'm a light armor long blade warrior type so Im thinking spell caster next.
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>>261969462
>they're lying to get recruitment based on false examples
>LOL RUSED YOU ITS JUST 3D MODELER
>now do the thing that we lied to you about
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>>262028551
Heavily-armoured BATTLE WIZARD
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>>262028069
>>262028480
>>262027693
Screencap from mod list
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>>262028551
Casting is fun but be prepared for SPELL FAILURE, endless frustration if playing under the Atronach, and for Tribunal to fuck you in the ass.
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I liked Morrowind except its shit combat
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How many of you guys can just stare in the night sky in Morrowind and feel comfy?
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>>262028641
>small team for big project needs help to fully realize Skywind
>this is a bad thing
I don't understand you. Or why you chose to respond to an hours-old post; I'm still here because I'm modding Morrowind.
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>>262028480
Which city is that? I thought necrom was the only big city I haven't been to so far.
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>>262029558
I love watching the sky!
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>>262030140
I have no idea, its in the TR Alpha around the giant gray mushroom swamp area, I think its still a unfinished city without a name
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>>262030509
I see what you did there
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>>262029173
>Atronach
>Endless frustration

Why? Playing Atronach is easy mode for magicka.
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3 BLESSINGS ANONS
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>>262031108
Because you always run out and while comberry is easy to get, the other magicka potion ingredients aren't.
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>>262031846
>using restore magicka effects
Summon ancestral ghosts, or use shrines. EZPZ.
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>>262031846
The Altmer alchemist in Balmora has an infinite restocking supply of Void and Frost salt.

And killing a few scamps and taking their hearts isn't too difficult. A wizard should be able to handle that.
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>>262031846
>can absorb magic
>make a ancestor ghost spell that last 9 seconds and cost 5 mana
>hit it to make it hostile
>refills all your mana
>infinite mana

This is why I hate Morrowind threads. Nobody has any fucking idea what they're doing in the game. /v/ is as full of casuals as any other part of the internet.
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>>262030509
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>>261958918
>>261959228

>Aleyidshit.

Is this the "What Cyrodil's actually supposed to look like" mod, or something else?
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>put on curaiss that was a quest reward
>suddenly find myself cursed with an repulsive endless stench
>can't remove the cursed armor now
This shit better lower my disposition with all npcs or I'm going to be heavily disappointed in the tr team.
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>>261961672

I wouldn't call Curly, Larry and Moe a "horde". I'll admit that it's nice to have more than one summon at a time, though, sure.
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So, what good quest mods are there for Morrowind that aren't unstable and/or lore-breaking?
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>>262008726
Khajiit head pack seems okay.

>>262010012
I play nords. Any good Nord heads out there? I can't find any that don't ruin the whole viking look.
This question is for anybody, really.
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>>262034509
tamriel rebuilt

>>262034851
the ones in the overhaul are alright
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>>261987725
Big, heavy weapons and high Str vs low End. At least that seems to be how it works.
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>>262034509
TR
Rise of House Telvanni
SSE
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>>261980135
MGO or Morrowind Graphics Overhaul gets you that, it even installs itself
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>>262032563
>>262032371
>doing gamey shit
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>>262033872
>armor of the /v/ browser
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How come house dagoth guys stack furniture? is that what kirk did when he was on drugs?
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>>262036558
mfw it drops personality by 80. This shit is so hilarious. The durability is really low though, so its gonna break pretty fast.
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>>262037207
Probably.
>when he was
>implying he's gotten sober
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>>262037207
Why are Ash Ghouls also merchants+smiths?

We just don't know.
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>>262037574
yea im in kogoruhn right now and when im fast i can chat to them.

>ashwoe blight

god dammit
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>>262037574
theres literally nothing wrong with being dagoth ur
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>>262037207
>Sneaking up on an ash slave
>"The chairs. The tables. All confused. We hear the words, and must speak them. We take them, and arrange them, but still, they will not be quiet."
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>Just found the scroll of windform in ibar bad or whatever
>500 PTS LEVITATION

NIGGA IM FLYING IM THE WIND HOLY SHITTTTT
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>>262038769
cliff racer fly so high
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So where the fuck do I start if I want to read into TES lore?
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>>262039286
The 36 sermons of Vivec, and The Loveletter.

Just kiding, those are very elliptic. I don't have specific books to point out, just pic some randomly and have fun
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>>262039286
http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1112211-how-to-become-a-lore-buff/
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>>262039286
Play the games. Read the books. Pay attention to the conversations.
UESP is great for game materials, including the full text of said books and some conversations. Imperial Library is good for general lore, as well as some out-of-game stuff.
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>>262040195
Jesus fucking Christ, was this all thought up by one dude or was it more of a collaboration?
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>>262040827
It's a collaboration of a shit load of writers.

Just make sure to avoid anything that mentions CHIM or loveletters because it's not canon.
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>Kogoruhn
>see a dead hero man
>nice glass shit
>altmer dead hero
>spear
>khajit
>hero

what? since when are drug addicted thieves heroes?
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>>262043045

if everyone stuck to their stereotype there would be no Altmer left
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>>262043045
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ahzirr_Traajijazeri

>yfw Khajiit invented Anonymous.
>good luck, I'm behind 7,000 Kalpas.
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>>262011510

They had just invented particle effects back then, and were cheerfully masturbating to them.

Wait till you get to the Clockwork City quests.
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>>262042908
Just make sure to not listen to this guy because he is a faglord and doesn't know shit about lore.
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>>262044770
>quests
>plural
I remember all those sparks. Shit got old fast.
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>>262045061
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>>262042908
Literally the main book in Oblivion, the only book THAT YOU NEED to complete the main quest
>http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mythic_Dawn_Commentaries
>Whereby the words of Lord Dagon instructs us to destroy these faithless. "Eat or bleed dry the gone-forlorn and gain that small will that led them to walk the path of Godhead at the first. Spit out or burn to the side that which made them delay. Know them as the Mnemoli.
>CHIM. Those who know it can reshape the land. Witness the home of the Red King Once Jungled.
What the fuck more do you want you faglord?
Not to mentions Sermons literally explaining everything or Anuad and Monomyth talking about Anu falling asleep or From The Many Headed Talos talking about Talos reshaping the land or Black Books talking about Amaranth related things or Old Weathered note talking about zerosumming
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Can actually even play with followers in Morrowind?
One thing I really like about Skyrim is, that actually can play it on a really realistic difficulty, because with the right mods you always can play with a nice party or even command a whole army.
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>>262042908
roughly 6 writers that actually matter is not shitloads
Michael Kirkbride, Ted Peterson, Douglas Goodall, Ken Rolston, Kurt Kuhlmann, Emil Pagliarulo
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>>262045679
there are some really nice companion mods out. Just google around. The ai is generally pretty solid.
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>>262045737
are those NPC names? They sound a little too much like RL names.
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>>262045489
>the only book THAT YOU NEED to complete the main quest
>what is Mysterium Xarxes
>>262045967
I can't tell if this is a joke or not.
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>>262045679
I'm using Comes-By-Road, an argonian healer companion right now. Does his job remarkably well and knows to stay out of dangerous shit. Automatically teleports to you if you leave him outside a room or something, and has an amulet to bring him to you.
He can't wear armor though. Anyone know what I would need to change in the construction kit to allow him to wear it? He just wears clothes and uses a weapon.
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>>261958571
So did the tribunal kill Nerevar? I'd like to believe so, especially since Vivec's writings doesn't mention it and they're all batshit crazy but Dagoth Ur does claim to have come to blows with him.
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>>262047543
They murdered him for the Heart.
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>>262047543
Yes.
The Tribunal were bad people.
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>>262047543
Nerevar absolutely fought Dagoth Ur at some point
After their fight Nerevar died or Vehk, Ayem and Seht killed him
Looking at concept arts of Morrowind and listening to Ashlanders it's pretty obvious that they did actually kill him
Then Vivec changed history of TRIBUNAL and his own history so who the fuck knows whats true at this point
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>>262047543
"He was not born a god. His destiny did not lead him to this crime. He chose this path of his own free will. He stole the godhood and murdered the Hortator. Vivec wrote this."
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>>262048012
We already know what's true. All the things you said, and the Tribunal lied about it. That was actually an aspect of the way the Temple worked, with its hidden writings and what-not. Can't remember the word for it off-hand, I'm sure someone else can help.
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Lorkhan is a Daedra and Nirn is his plane.
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Morrowind is a fantastic game but is severely outclassed by every Elder Scrolls game that has come out since then
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>>262048280
>If the appropriate word from each book is taken (I.E: the first word from book 1, the sixty-eighth from book 2, the three hundred and sixty-fourth from book 36, etc.) and assemble them, a secret message is revealed;
>He was not born a god. His destiny did not lead him to this crime. He chose this path of his own free will. He stole the godhood and murdered the Hortator. Vivec wrote this.
Neat
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>>262049108
>inb4 hurr durr random numbers
Messege was coded with Sermon 29
1. The Dragon Break, or the Tower. 1
2. The Enantiomorph. 68
3. The Invisible Gate, ALMSIVI. 112
4. The Corners of House of Troubles. 242
5. The Corners of the World. 100
6. The Walking Ways. 266
7. The Sword at the Center. 39
8. The Wheel, or the Eight Givers. 484
9. The Missing. 11
10. The Tribes of the Altmer. 140
11. The Number of the Master. 102
12. The Heavens. 379
13. The Serpent. 36
14. The King's Cough. 32
15. The Redeeming Force. 110
16. The Acceptable Blasphemes. 12
17. The Hurling Disk. 283
18. The Egg, or Six Times the Wise.
19. The Provisional House. 258
20. The Lunar Lattice. 425
21. The Womb. 13
22. Unknown. 453
23. The Hollow Prophet. 54
24. The Star Wound. 44
25. The Emperor. 239
26. The Rogue Plane. 81
27. The Secret Fire. 120
28. The Drowned Lamp. 8
29. The Captive Sage. 217
30. The Scarab. 10
31. The Listening Frame. 473
32. The False Call. 7
33. The Anticipations. 234
34. The Lawless Grammar. 2
35. The Prison-Shirt. 191
36. The Hours. 364
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>>262049341
What. Explain.
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>>262049341
Why would Vivec hide his secret in a published book with a clue that is incredibly easy to figure out.
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>>262049587
He's not a clever man
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>>262049587
H-He thought it would be cool and mind blowing or something...he likes attention
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>>262049091

in which aspects?
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>>262049587
because some distant part of him still felt some remorse over it.
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>>262049513
Sermon 29 of 36 sermons has list of metaphysical concepts tied to each sermon, like The Scarab, man born ANU, it also has number tied to each Sermon.
If you take the word tied to the number from each sermon, you will get this
>>262048280
They kiled Nerevar
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>>262050143

Pretty much every other aspect aside from lore and storyline
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>>262050283

like which.
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>Anumidium
>a new medium
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>>262049091
How? In level scaling? I don't understand what you're thinking. All the games have barely tolerable combat. Oblivion decided to "balance" the fact that every strike hit by making everything a bag of HP.
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>>262050283
Just give a detailed explanation of what you thought was wrong with it. It's not hard.
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>>262048929
Mankar.
Get the fuck out, you nerd.
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>>262050364

graphics
gameplay mechanics
character advancement
gear/equipment
magic spells/special abilities (shouts)
bestiary
voice (at all)
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>>262050747

who cares/mods
nope
you wish
fuck no
don't make me laugh
arguable
who cares/play TES:O if you want voices
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guys...guys....hey...what if...wait for it...what if they rebuilt skyrim in the morrowind engine?
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>>262051145
It would be identical.
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>>262050747
>I've never played Morrowind I just can't accept that people like it more than my game

At least when people complain about Skyrim/Oblivion they give an argument more detailed then "hurr I can't hit anything with no stamina" "I'm confused by simple mechanics"
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>>262050747
Morrowind had better gameplay mechanics even if you hate melee combat
Magic in both Skyrim and Oblivion is veeery shallow compared to Morrowindian Magic
>character advancement
what is that supposed to mean?
leveling?
if so Oblivion had broken leveling and level scaling while Skyrim had all stats removed in favor of interesting but more shallow perks which should have been added to stats, not replace them
>gear/equipment
Morrowind has more armor pieces in a set
Morrowind had more armor items ingame
You could wear cloth under armor
Armor actually broke unlike Skyrim
How is future TES armor better than Morrowind?
>magic spells/special abilities (shouts)
As I said Magic has a lot more effects in Morrowind, effects that actually matter
Shouts are missed opportunity and instead work as shitty powers with only a few having interesting effects
>bestiary
Morrowind had more Mobs to fight and more interesting Mobs to fight too
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>>262051145
it would still be shit because Skyrim had a terrible story
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>>262050747
Bestiary? Really? That was one of the coolest parts of Morrowind. Wolves? Nope, giant insectoid Nix Hounds. Cows? How about a Guar. The animals of Morrowind really helped to convey the feeling of this sort of alien land.

And then you have the Sixth House, whose enemies I still absolutely adore.
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Playing for the first time, what graphical mods do you guys recommend?
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>>262053169
none of them
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>>262053169
None for your first time. Get a sense of the original.
Second run, use the ones in this guide: http://www.somethingfornobody.com/blog/morrowind-modding-guide/
Many of the links are broken, unfortunately, but you can get most of the visuals overhauled by following it.
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Saviour's Hide, Lord's Mail, Ebony Mail or Dragonbone Cuirass?
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>>262049091
Oblivion improves on Morrowind in terms of quests and matches it in terms of level design, graphics, and overall gameplay, but fails massively in music, art direction, genuinely interesting shit to explore, and balance.

Skyrim improves on Morrowind in terms of gameplay (kinda - but there's no excuse for them not outsourcing gameplay to Arkane given that they own Arkane now and Arkane are masters of fun combat), music (the music isn't actually better, it's about the same, but there's way more of it so it wins there), and graphics, matches it in terms of overland stuff to explore and arguably in art direction, and fails massively in terms of level design, quests, and balance.

Morrowind is best if you want a really solid exploration experience with great atmosphere.

Oblivion is best if you want interesting quests and faction plots.

Skyrim is best if you want an atmospheric survival game (and this does require modding, but then, Skyrim is the first TES game where you actually NEED to mod it just to make it playable at all; specifically, SkyUI is mandatory because the base interface is broken, so you'll be modding it no matter what).

I would consider Morrowind and Skyrim to be fairly evenly matched, but with mods Morrowind is better, since Skyrim's major flaw (the abysmally shitty quests and faction plots) can't really be fixed.
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>>262053973
Ebony Mail has the highest AR when you take into account its shields spells. Dragonbone Cuirass is useless if you're playing a dunmer (also it was supposed to have a fucking fire breath power, where is it bethesda??)
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>>262053973
I used Lord's Mail.
>>262054217
>specifically, SkyUI is mandatory because the base interface is broken
How so? "Broken" as in "not very good on PC", or are there actual problems? Only true issue I know of is that the White Phial disappears, and my understanding is that SkyUI causes that, not vanilla.
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>shitty laptop is all I've got
>master race PC died some time ago
>no money to get a decent rig anytime soon
>well, might as well play Morrowind, the game is old after all, shouldn't have any problems...
>install Morrowind
>spend a whole day downloading mods I would like to play with
>use the code patch
>ready to start the game
>maybe 8fps at most
>tweak morrowind.ini
>turn off shadows completely
>"here's hoping!"
>slight improvement, but everything is still slow as fuck
Well sheeeeit... Feels bad mang.
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>>262054217
I can get behind that, thanks anon for actually providing something thought out.

Only thing I really want in a new elder scrolls game (not counting the continuing dragging of magic through the dirt) is a large number of factions and faction interaction.

Morrowind had it, although it took up a majority of the gameplay, and I think Bethesda is fine enough with fucking up their own lore to make another game with 10+ joinable factions.
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>>262053310
>>262053821
Thanks
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>>262055468

do some manual labor no$$$
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>>262055446
It wasn't just "not very good on the PC", that's SkyUI. SkyUI is not very good on the PC. The stock UI however is unplayable garbage. Having to change your keybinds back to default every time you want to add or remove a favourite = yep, it's broken. SkyUI does fix that alongside making the UI somewhat bearable.
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>tfw stats and attributes will probably never return
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>>262056991
Need to pay off my college debt anon, first it's that, then rent, utilities and food. Don't have the $$$ for vidya related stuff.

I'll probably just go scavenging through my old shit, I could probably frankestein some shitty computer from all of the spare parts around.

I think the main problem with the laptop must be the shitty integrated video card.

Never thought Morrowind needed a good one though, I remember playing it years ago on a really cheap PC.
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>>262057338
All I'm hearing is "BAWWWWWWW".
Yeah, it's not very good with Kb+M, but it's a far cry from "broken". Git gud and/or a controller.
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http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/why-morrowind-sucked-the-douglas-goodall-interview.10408/
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>>262057816
>>262057816
heh heh whats your degree in?

heh heh
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>>262058096
I guess you didn't read my post, retard.
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>>262058573
>goodall
>roger goodall
>good goy

wow..
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>>262058574
Women studies. Lel. Seriously though, with all due respect, none of your business anon.
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>>262058978
If it's not our business why the fuck are you mentioning you went to college at all?
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>>262058978
salty.
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Is the OpenMW the only ones with a map like this