>no Samurai Goroh/Black Shadow/ANY OTHER F-ZERO REP
>no Dixie/K. Rool
>Ganon still a Falcon clone
>Ice Climbers cut
>Samus based on Other M
I don't know that feel.
I think you'll find NONE of my dreams came true for Smash 4.
Oh well, I'll just stick with The D and The Dorf.
Oh it did. Like several times
Also got Megaman, Robin, Shulk and my Brawl mains of Ike, ZS Samus, Somic, Falco and Captain Falcon.
>tfw I wanted either robin or shulk and got both
this is truly the greatest feeling
I wanted Shulk, Robin and Isaac.
2/3 isn't bad. Overall I'm pretty happy with the roster.
Only newcomer I was really hoping for.
He'll be my main no matter what.
>picking Bowser is no longer waving a flag to your friends that says "HEY, I LIKE LOSING!"
I will never know that feel.
Waiting for almost 12 years now.
>Mega Man is my Smash dream
>It came true
>Then Little Mac was my Smash dream
>It came true
Fuck the whiners, this is the best thing ever for me. My current Smash Dream is Impa, and there's still a small chance of her getting in too. If not, well I'm fine waiting for Smash 5. The way she's increasing her role in the series she seems like a shoe-in anyways.
I've just accepted by now that my secret Smash dreams of Chibi-Robo or Neku Sakuraba will never come real.
Oi, Shulk, whuat time is it mate?
>Capcha: The erohown
Japan and Nintendo both don't give a fuck about Metroid anymore And even if they did, Ridley doesn't have enough 'personality' to be playable, he's just a big screaming space dragon.
I'm a little disappointed that characters aren't returning, but all of the newcomers I'm either extremely happy with (Mac, Megaman, Villager, Greninja, Pac-Man) or at least feel neutrally towards (The FE guys, Shulk, Rosalina)
>always happy with Smash
>EGM has the Sonic in Smash April Fools thing
>suddenly begin to think about how cool non-Nintendo characters would be, like Sonic and Mega Man
>Snake confirmed for Brawl, holy shit that's cool.
>SONIC CONFIRMED FOR BRAWL ANNOUNCEMENT TO END ALL ANNOUNCEMENTS HOLY COCKDICKING SHIT
>fast forward to E3 last year
>anticipating new Smash
>"Well that was cool, I hope it's-"
>wait, that body
>THAT FUCKING HELMET
I genuinely don't know if a game will ever get me that hype again.
>tfw Ganondorf will still be in his dogshit brawl downgraded form
>No Lip or Mach Rider
>Takamaru and Saki are assist trophies
>my main Ice Climbers is cut
I don't know that feel. At least the newcomers look great excluding garbage like Lucina and Dark Pit of course though.
>Wii Fit Trainer
>Duck Hunt Dog
Anyone who says this isn't the absolute greatest smash roster yet is just asspained that their favorite (clone) character never got in/got cut, or bitches about the new clones without knowing that they don't replace any original characters
In the same boat, bro. Mega Man was like being served a delicious three course meal, with Little Mac as the desert.
K. Rool would've been cool but I can't really say I'm mad. Plus, Duck Hunt Dog is an out of nowhere choice that I think I'm gonna love, and the Koopaling/Bowser Jr. thing is looking more and more true which means Roy.
I'm about as happy as can be. RIP Ice Climbers, though, they will be missed.
At least word on the street is that Samus and Link finally clawed their way out of the shit tiers.
The way I see it, making clones is so easy that it's probably a case of "if Dark Pit, Lucina, and Dr. Mario weren't in, there wouldn't be anyone to replace them"
It's not like their inclusion is preventing someone else from being in the game. They simply pad the roster and provide slight variance in gameplay, no different than a shoto in Street Fighter.
>tfw none of my wishlist made it in
I'm not disappointed, mind. All of the non-bonus newcomers are fantastic and I fucking love Robin and Shulk. It still kinda sucks to see people happy about getting their #1 most wanted when none of my top five made it.
Still satisfied with the roster, though.
>Super hype for Little Mac
>Super hype for Pac Man
>Super hype for Shulk
>Love a fuckload of the redesigns (be they in playstyle like Bowser or visually like Ike)
>Super bummed that Lucas and Wolf are cut
>Still bummed that Snake is cut but came to terms with that ages ago
>Legit pissed that Ganondorf is still a clone
>Having a Smash game without the Ice Climbers just feels weird
I don't know how to feel about this game anymore
Honestly, judging by the way Nintendo is rolling out DLC in MK8- by far the most profitable option, DLC would be rare at best for Smash.
I'm still hoping that if the leak IS the full roster, they'll do a free DLC pack of the last five characters for the Wii U version's release.
And even if they did, Ridley doesn't have enough 'personality' to be playable, he's just a big screaming space dragon.
Yeah, why isn't he as deep and emotionally troubled as Duck Hunt Dog, or R.O.B, or Mr. Game & Watch?
And who could forget the deep touching tale of Wii Fit Trainer?
holy fuck that's a long ass grapple.
I'm honestly kind of excited about playing Samus. I've always liked her, but there was always one thing or another that just kind of made using her un-fun, like her speed.
I do wish that Samus would get the Project M Morphball crawl, though. It seems weird that she not have it.
We still don't even know if they're cut.
Even if they are, I still say this is the greatest smash roster yet and I didn't even ask for most of the characters on that list.
I don't think one original character being cut breaks the roster.
My smash dream will never come true. I can only hope that DHD will bear some resemblance to the duo...
>tfw mained Wolf and IC
>hate Falco so much along with his fanbase
>tfw Sakurai will never add Lip or even properly acknowledge PdP
I don't have a WiiU or 3DS anyway. T-thanks for saving my money Sakurai
It's really quite simple. Clone-based or not, Sakurai isn't going to drastically change an established character.
At most you're getting the Luigification that him and the other clones have been getting.
You lost your chance at Sworddorf the second he was a Falcon clone in Melee.
Focus on all the cool, new things your getting, rather than the few shitty things. Yeah, those cuts and unimprovements are shitty, but we're getting SO MANY great things to balance it out.
>Sakurai isn't going to drastically change an established character
I made my peace with Ganondorf still sucking since the beginning, but that's a lie. Bowser and Pit were overhauled for this game completely.
They shouldn't even be in too pad the roster, they are just a lazy way to make it seem like they did more work than they actually did. Custom movesets are a thing and alternate costumes are a thing; Clones have no reason to exist unless they are in Toon Link's situation where his model is completely different.
>mfw I wanted a FE:A representative
>mfw I got two
Why do you keep moving the goalpost? First characters need 'personality' to be in, now that applies to only additional reps from already represented series.
What personality does Dr. Mario have? Or Jigglypuff/Every other Pokemon? Or Roy, who didn't even have a personality when Melee was released?
I know it's a little to late to be speculating but if DLC does happen these are the characters I want to see.174
Bowser is still functionally the same, though. He just has different animations for some like his FSmash. Lots of his moves are still the same. Same with Pit, the moves are functionally the same save for, like, his dash attack, but just look different.
When I first saw Palutena in Brawl, I thought to myself "it's a fucking longshot, but I hope she's playable some day."
>no Samurai Goroh/Black Shadow/ANY OTHER F-ZERO REP
You aren't alone on this one.
It was expected, and yet still disappointing.
>tfw Ganondorf will be a Falcon clone until the end of time and Black Shadow will never get his moveset while G-dorf gets one of his own
And yeah, I guess it would be cool if Samurai Goroh became a fighter but there's not chance of that happening until there's another F-Zero.
My smash dream came true the moment Little Mac was confirmed.
I'm also really glad they kept Toon Link 100% cartoony in the new smash. In brawl they messed with his hair for some reason, and he wasn't very brightly colored.
>Only non-mii character to gets 16 possible unique movesets
>all those kid icarus items
>unique stage for both version
Why the fuck is Sakurai allowed to play favorites with his own shit?
Bowser got modified animations but keeps a lot of the same moves (specials, lots of his aerials and tilts)
Basically, the only really different thing is his forward smash and walking/running animations. And some stat changes, but that's about it.
What you're asking is that Ganondorf have been modified so that every single move (or 90% of them, anyway) be changed to some sort of sword move, which would completely change hitboxes and overall playstyle. That is far more drastic than anything they've done to Pit or Bowser.
Pikachu nor the rest of the Pokemon isn't a singular entity though, the Pokemon characters in Smash, with the exception of Mewtwo, represent an entire species. There is no personality nor characterization to draw from. That Greninja you're fighting might be someone's starter. It might have been bred from the day care. That's the most you'll get.
Saying Ridley has absolutely no personality yet the Pokemon do is just fucking retarded and you know it.
This is what bothers me the most. If custom movesets are a thing why even keep clones in? Getting rid of a few unique characters doesn't make things better either. Padding the roster just for the sake of having more characters is a shitty idea.
What I hate the most is keeping Falco but not Wolf. There's NO excuse for this unless Sakurai were listening to those vocal idiots who thinls Wolf was an unneccessary clone, which is wrong and hypocritical considering that most of them don't seem to mind fucking Falco.
Fuck those idiots and fuck Sakurai.
No characters got revealed that I wanted in particular. I doubt that Kyle Hyde made it into consideration for the roster.
Still, I'm slowly growing to like this roster. The only bad things is a little too much KI representation.
It's not doing less work if you are making them costumes and adding their tweaked moves to the custom moveset. It's doing better work that gives the player more options than if they were clones.
>Want to know more about Shulk? Visit the official Xenoblade Chronicles website!
no other character has this
>hey have you never fucking heard of this guy? neither have we! you can read about him here. also we put him in because he is a BELOVED NINTENDO MASCOT AND NOT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO SHILL AN UPCOMING PORT ;^)
And? Falcondorf is bullshit and everyone knows it. Do you really think anyone is going to miss a shit version of Falcon? I say this as a Ganon main, if they changed his moveset I could always just play as Falcon if I wanted the old style back.
They wouldnt have to modify shit seeing as this was a NEW game, every character has been built from scratch so its not crazy to ask for a new Ganondorf.
This guy gets it. This roster is fucking amazing. The only legitimate complaint is that IC were cut.
>b-but muh clones
They're just clones. No need to get upset that they spent a whole 2 days making them. Just more stuff to unlock.
>>Only non-mii character to gets 16 possible unique movesets
WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T HE GO WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY TO REPRESENT A "CUSTOM" MOVESET
All the characters I wanted either got confirmed for Brawl (Meta Knight, Diddy Kong, King Dedede) or were confirmed already (Little Mac, Villager, Pac-Man).
It's a glorious fucking feeling. Everything else is just icing on the cake.
The only character in Smash who was literally an advertisement was Roy. Characters like Robin and Lucina are reasonably relevant. So is Shulk. The Pokemon who were in one game and then cut were there for moveset potential and then stopped being relevant. It'll probably happen to Greninja too, unless Sakurai has room for some kind of amphibian husbando in addition to his fur husbando Lucario.
It's possible- however unlikely at this point- that the dog was a fake.
Until shit is officially confirmed or you can corroborate it with several sources, you shouldn't assume everything is true.
He worded it poorly, but it's like this. You either need a personality OR some other significance. One of the two.
Mr. Game and Watch is literally the first Nintendo character. ROB and Duck Hunt are associated with very popular peripherals for the NES, which have an important part in Nintendo history. All of the represented Pokemon are popular from the anime. Roy was promoting a new game for a series that Nintendo wanted to try to get more wide appeal (same reason Shulk's here). Dr. Mario took like a week to put in probably, and is probably back for Kerfuffle due to popular demand (even if you don't like him, other people did).
Ridley has no extenuating reason to be in. He's not that popular outside of Metroid, save for this weird obsession over him for this game. So without an extra reason, you need a strong personality. And he fails that test too. I think Ridley is cool as shit, but I also think he just fits better in the game as a boss, hopefully you'll understand that too.
Except from the fucking getgo Sakurai said there wouldn't be costumes that changed the actual identity of the character.
Also, with these characters being clones, who will also have custom movesets, you will effectively have 6 custom movesets for Marth, Pit, and Mario.
There is no way the leak was fake, its been confirmed by a ton of things.
>Shulk is the same as he was in the leak
>Leak showed a stage that was later shown in Famitsu or some shit
>Ganondorf was accidentally leaked by Nintendo themselves, and his design is the same as the leak
Nah, but the leak is totally fake though.
It's true, even in Japan Goroh has always had lower chances.
Black Shadow however was legitimately wanted over there AND he could have inherited the Falcondorf moveset, as you said.
Of course that would 'alienate' people who are used to playing him, or some other bullshit excuse.
>Kid Icarus getting all of this attention
>No Bandana Dee
>Mario gets 6 reps
>No Bandana Dee
>9000 Zelda items
>No Bandana Dee
>5.5 Zelda Characters
>No Bandana Dee
>Fire Emblem gets 4 reps
>three of them has blue hair
>No Bandana Dee
I am so fucking butthurt over this.
>implying Sakurai likes Lucario
>and it's not GameFreak forcing him like always
I gave up on Isaac when the last Golden Sun game for DS ended up being not as good as the previous two, did not sell as well and Camelot is uninterested in making another even though they had the balls to end the last game on a fucking cliffhanger.
No one except
Just them and Shulk.
>mfw people still complain about Smash roster exclusions like they're 12
>People more excited about Captain Falcon being included than characters new to smash with interesting
Not that C. Falcon isn't great, but goddamn, people hating Shulk, Palutena, Robin and other new characters are fucking children, right?
I can kind of understand Shulk/Robin/Lucina, from the "MORE anime swordsmen? for fuck's sake." point of view, but they're all different enough to justify their existence- except Lucina, who really should've just been an alt.
>tfw I've been wanting Mother 3's Masked Man since Brawl came out
>could have PSI like Lucas, glide like Pit, swordplay like Toon Link, buster like Mega Man
>his helmet is a hat for Mii Fighters
Samurai really, really does like to taunt us
at least Robin kinda fills the void
Fuck all those anime ass newcomers that look nearly identical.
Fuck Kid Icarus pandering.
It's all good, 'cause this motherfucker is back!
Anyone else actually hyped for Mii Fighters?
I can't wait to tear up Smash Run with Hank Hill, Voldemort and George Zimmerman
I think sakurai doesn't care about zelda. I mean, he upgraded the other popular franchise, mario, to have 6(7 if dr mario is confirmed) reps while zelda stayed with 4 reps, 2 being semiclones.
Young Link -> Toon Link is a good example of it, though I guess this would have been the first change from two different series.
Of course some moves would need to be changed to match the character but they would still feel about the same to play as, or perhaps even better.
My top husbandos are in. I have no complaints.
This is the same shit way everyone reacted with the Brawl roster, almost every newcomer besides a select few got the stink eye here. Now you have Wolf and Lucas fans bemoaning their cut characters.
seriously that was half the fun of it
Greninja is my favorite Pokemon but never in a million years did I expect him to get in Smash, he never even crossed my mind as a possibility
Im still debating that, probably fighter because he used his fists more than anything.
Hopefully there is a magic mii that is unlockable. Otherwise I would probably go Poo/Sword and Kumatora/Fighter (just to distinguish them).
I'll be more excited once I have the game. Mii Fighters are definitely cool, especially if the appearence customization is as vast as I hope it is, but I'm more focused on actual characters for now.
>One of the two
But that's bullshit. You made that up. You pulled that directly from your ass. Most characters here are deliberately one note. Pit and Ike are some of the few with real levels to them.
My dreams never come true, I'm too much of a whiny faggot.
I would've loved Fawful, too.
Same. I kind of figured it'd be like with Melee and Brawl how when it came out it was already a generation behind. Then they revealed Greninja, and that Mega evolutions would be possible, which is pretty neat.
>didn't give two shits about Ridley
>got annoyed with antiridleyfags spamming delusional/autistic/retarded
>wanted Ridley in just to spite them
>don't believe it
>realize I've gone full Ridleyfag
I don't even like Metroid that much. I've only played the original and Super.
Seamus lost her missile cancel, and her sex kick. Link's projectiles are slightly worse yet his normals got buffed and his up B is legit now. No charge on the ground, doesn't rely on his jumping momentum in the air, can potentially kill, goes really high now.
I wanted characters from FE7 since it's the one I played as a kid, like the most, and only has Lyn as an AT.
>2 FE new reps
>from the game I don't give 2 shits about
>one of them is a clone
Next time why not simply add the red haired bitch in a horse to the roster too?
Everyone is a main character in fucking fire emblem. That is what you kiddies get when you give a name to every unit in a strategy game, you believe they are main characters just because they have a distinctive avatar.
Well, my secondary didn't, and
>tfw you also mained Lucas
I got Mega Man though, which is more than what most people can say.
>There are people in this topic that pretend to like a character they probably never even heard of and just remembered him from that one game and suddenly he became their favorite character
This is exactly what happened to me. I saw 2biggots commenting that Ridleyfags were bad people and would start shit just because Ridley was on someone's most wanted. Not even "most likely," they would hound people even if they didn't think Ridley had a shot. I mean, what the fuck, people? It's not like with Krystalfags, where all they want is to fuck their character, and the staff argument is just what they hide behind. Nobody would want to fuck Ridley until after he's confirmed for Smash Bros, at which point his porn material would skyrocket.
I found myself turning into a Ridleyfag just because I couldn't help but root for the underdog.
>tfw dont want any specific characters
>happy with any character addition
>shulk is my new main, never even played xenoblade
>Watch that reveal trailer thinking it's Mewtwo and getting hyped
>mfw it's fucking Greninja
tfw Wonder Red is from a brand new IP that isn't even a year old
tfw it was midway in development when Kerfuffle started development
tfw unlike Greninja, he's not from an established franchise
Maybe next time, Space Cowboy.
The Greninja incident is what made me hate Mewtwofags.
After he was revealed literally everywhere was people shitting on Greninja, but 80% of the reasons were "IT MAKES MEWTWO'S CHANCES LOWER"
>tfw only my joke character came true and even then all I really wanted was Ganondorf to have a new moveset
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I really hope there's DLC
My Smash dream was true when Toon Link was confirmed back.
It's great to have a proper alternative to bishie Link
>Using characters from games you've never played in Smash
Fuck everyone that does this
>tfw your most wanted character gets in
>tfw afterwards you realize they'll be playable in every smash game from now on
>People confused greninja with mewtwo
Yeah because fucking Mewtwo totally attacks with hand signs and shurikens
>tfw Nintendo won't buy Capcom
>tfw my Smash dream will never come true
My favorite Megaman is Battle Network too, at least the Final Smash is nice.
It took me a little bit, but when the thing in his hands started taking on a shuriken shape I fucking flipped a shit
Team Froakie since day fucking 1
I would have rathered Morgan because Morgan would have at least vaguely resembled everyone's Morgan, but oh well, we got a magic user at least.
Villager and Megaman were the top of my want list but also the top of my "never going to happen" list. That was a very special E3 for me.
Morgan's the sluttiest slut to ever be a slut
Don't worry, the ten times edgier Dark Link costume is still around for you to use online.
>my mains Samus and Zelda got buffed and look great
Feels pretty good. Palutena and Robin look fun as hell to play as well, can't wait to try them.
I hope Retro Studios makes the next smash.
>mfw the Mii Swordsman was Sakurai's shoddy attempt to compensate for lack of Isaac
>mfw Valve/Nintendo will never make this
>Retro Studios removes Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, and other iconic villains from the game. refuses to even mention or reference them, and instead replaces them all with a plank of fucking wood
Had it happen once with Wario in Brawl.
Then again with Mega Man.
Then again with Little Mac.
Then again with Greninja.
You're fucking joking right? Wolf played nothing like Fox. I mained Wolf in Brawl, but I couldn't do shit with Fox or Falco. The "Wolf is a Fox clone" argument has always been a load of shit.
I wanted Takamura, Little Mac and Shulk (british dub and all). I got a new main with Robin and Lucida.
at least Taka's an assist. I never cared for Lucas unless they overhauled him, Wolf sucks since he was the only Starfox character i played and Ice Climber are whatever to me. Duck Hunt Dog should be a good replacement.
i'm really happy for R.O.B mains
i never thought they'd get their robro back and i'm glad they're happy
the kremlings were a Rare thing and originally meant to be put into another game.
BECAUSE FUCKING CROCODILES MADE SO MUCH FUCKING SENSE TO BE THE VILLAINS OF GORILLAS.
seriously The Tikis are fine. you're jsut mad they don't talk.
>Dark Pit gets his staff and different weapons from Pit including a different Final Smash
>LEL CLONE WASTED SPACE FOR RIDLEY
>Lucida is a faster and easier to use MArth variant
>BAWWWWW WHY DIDNT LYN GET IN THIS TIME?
>Dr. Mario put in to appease melee fans
>I CANT HOLD ALL THESE CLONES
seriously nothing wrong with these "new" characters. I'm probably going to main Lucida considering i used to be a marth main and Marth is garbage in this game apparently according to the demos
>tfw I have no expectations or wishes
The most I could ask for is a 2nd Metroid rep since it's my favorite series ever, but honestly, I have to wishes, and nobody announced yet has gotten me hyped.
Also, not part of the discussion, but fuck Pac-Man, he don't even belong here.
>Magnus was first to get BTFO
Dammit. But at least it makes me less angry at Dark Pit.
>Tfw the characters you want are incredibly unlikely to ever be in Smash
Fuck this gay Earth
>My mains were captain falcon and ganondorf
>Really wanted ganondorf to have his same moveset from brawl
>Tfw got nothing to worry about
Gotta say, it sucks to be you, ridleyfags. All those page long infographs you spend hours putting together are now a complete waste, you're a laughing stock, it feels great.
>there exists an alternate universe where Rare never got bought out by Microsoft and BK became a flagship Nintendo franchise
>and where they were in Brawl AND Kerfuffle
>tfw wanted Robin
>tfw didn't have based voice 3
>none of my other most wanted people other than Megaman and Mac will make it in
W-Well, that's okay.
Shulk, Robin and Lucina would have been a plus if everyone wasn't going to use them.
I'd choose Felix over Isaac any day.
As for other disappointments? Ryu from Breath of Fire, Conker, Sanosuke from Onimusha, Bomberman and Jill from RE
Tfw it's unlikely Rare will ever make a good game again.
At least DKC got passed on to Retro eventually right
>They made Ganon faster in Smash 4
>He still has those dogshit retarded slow-mo animations
THEY LITERALLY REUSED THE SAME ANIMATIONS AND SPED THEM UP, HE RUNS ALL STIFF AND RETARDED WITH HIS TINY LEGS LIKE FUCKING DOUBLE D NOW
AND HE STILL HAS THOSE STUPID ASS LUNGE KICKS FOR MOST OF HIS GROUND ATTACKS
FUCKING HELL SAKURAI
Smash has been thrown to the weebs and waifufags. One of the characters even has a little pedophile speedo for fuck's sake.
I don't blame anyone for wanting a purple pterodactyl or an obese crocodile anymore. At least that shit isn't the sort of thing fucking /a/ would suggest.