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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlY1yb7rVdo#

Holy fuck, look how slow this game is. It's like watching a Melee video on slow-mo. And dont get me started on the lack of gravity.
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It looks pretty bad.

The WiiU version plays way better.
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>>259811164
Played the Smash fest demo aon both wiiU and 3DS and I definitely felt the 3DS version was slower or at elast somewhat more sluggish.
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That's because it's Project M.
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>>259810994

Are you stupid? This is against 3 easy mode CPUs that just stand there and do nothing a lot of the time.

It doesn't represent how the game will play.
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>making a final verdict on the game from watching a low quality video of a bunch of bots playing

wow, competitive fags are literally the worst part of the community
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Shulk fucking floats down so slowly when he jumps.
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I am excited for Shulk's inclusion. As for the speed, most of them are obviously low level computers.
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>>259810994
its like you guys don't realize that it has taken Melee 13 years to get to the speed its at
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The CPUs are only level 3 and it looks like the guy playing is shit
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wow
another smash thread
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It may not be as fast but im still guaranteed a couple years of fun.
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Wow, this game looks so slow. Time to go back to Melee.
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>>259811870
Melee is faster than Brawl on a basic level, you do not need any sort of "advanced technique" to see that.
Whereas characters in Melee can often be KOed at 90%, it takes 190% in Brawl. At a casual level.
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>>259811870
Melee was a fast game to begin with. You can compare the falling speeds of this and Melee and notice a significant difference.
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>>259812113
How can you go back when you never left?
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>>259811567
That doesn't make any sense at all. Go to bed, anon.

I'm going back to playing Project M for sure though. At least their newcomers aren't total nonsense, and they try with their alts.
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>>259812209
this, melee was the better casual game
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Where the fuck did all these characters come from?
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>>259811679
it doesnt take a tourneyfag to see that the game is slower anon, cmon.
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Why isn't there a leaker out there that owns a camera camera capable of taking pictures or films that don't look like blurry shit.
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>>259812012
Mad cause people forget about casual dudebro crap, aka ps exclusives, in a week and nobody talks about them?
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>>259812360
Well, none of us has really played Kerfuffle, so I think it's unfair to make that assumption. But, I'm pretty sceptical about it. I'm sure it's a good, fun game and all, but, I think I'll stick with Melee and PM after all.
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>people are actually falling for this
Can't wait until September so all of you fags can shut up
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>>259812260
I love melee, but i simply can't put project m down.
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>>259810994
Melee is slow too when played be complete amateurs.
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>>259812321
>m-muh snake

So glad we get actual iconic characters like duck hunt and Ridley over him. At least Mach rider will most likely have his move set, no need to be upset
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>>259810994
is this fake?
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Is it just me or does Shulk look awkward and stiff?

>blurry as fuck
They do this shit on purpose don't they.
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>>259812719
Anon, Smash 4's roster is known. It's over. All it has to offer is waifus and clones.
Clones who are, ironically, more of clones than the characters made with P:M's clone engine.
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No one's able to film clear video anymore.

The age of the camera's over.
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>>259812606
I played Kerfuffle, there's been multiple demos of an early build.

And allow me to say that Sakurai has no idea what he's doing, he's making the game crazy for the sake of lel kids like crazy. Why give your characters unique movesets if in the end it doesn't matter?
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>>259812539
Because then you could tell it was fake.
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>>259812634
If it's all fake, then how do you explain this?

http://imgur.com/a/PzeCw
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>>259812719
Hey man I'm all in favor of telling PM shitposters to fuck off but Solid Snacks was a fun as fuck addition to Brawl.
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>>259812012
At least it's not QUINNSPIRACY.
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>>259810994
>Holy fuck, look how slow this game is.

It's almost like it is just a hack of Brawl meant to fool people into believing it is Smash 4 3DS or something.
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>>259811385
This is good news. Let's hope it isn't that slow as vid. Because fuck it, that's bad video gamed design.
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>>259811164
Absolutely true. The Wii U flows just amazingly. I guess it might be all in the analog stick.
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>>259813004

>people are already online
>implying nintendo servers are even up and running yet

Fake right away.
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>>259813057
It was shoehorned and ruined the aesthetic. I wish snake and sonic never showed up, fuck third party characters
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>>259812710
Project M is too easy compared to Melee. Melee forever
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>>259812125
The percentages part seems to be fixed. Rarely will you see people survive smash hits at around 100 percent or so in Smash 4.
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what mechanics are gone from smash 4? it seems like they reused the brawl engine
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>>259813004
Why are the two screens touching? Is the video being fed through to a monitor and this dickhead is taking off-screen camera pictures? 3DS's screens aren't that close together.
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>>259813339

shut up nintendofag

i like solid snake have ever since the NES days you fuckers act like no one liked Metal Gear on NES just because it was inferior to the original MSX version
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at 0:08 you can see the video switch to yoshi in the sandbag stadium as soon as it shows the victory screen.

conspiracy time?
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>>259813395
Can't say no. But i can say that project m is more balanced.
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>>259813674
It's basically a montage video
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so wait is this leaked video legit or what?
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>>259811679
>Competitive

\not sure where OP mentioned competitve play.
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>>259813573
Because they're fucking two different pictures. If you tried to get the entire 3DS in one shot you'd be able to see nothing.
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>>259813573
>>259813674
It's from the footage given to the ESRB to rate the game.
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>>259812321
>tfw I can't tell if Roy, Knuckles, and Lyn are worse than Lucina, Dark Pit, and Bowser Jr
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Is this the first time you've seen the game in action, OP? We had two fucking tourneys already, you giant faggot.
The game looks faster when actual competent people are playing.

>>259813674
ERSB only receives videos to rate, so they are not playing. Just watching a selection of screens and videos.
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>>259813674
provided the leak was true, this would be footage from nintendo sent to the ESRB. they don't get actual copies. that would also explain the lack of screen separation.
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>>259810994
The footage has been slowed down. I can't believe you idiots are falling for this.
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>>259813395

high level PM seems tougher to me man

more characters are good so you HAVE to know more MUs

I love Melee but there are really only 9 or so characters worth putting any time into and even then most of them don't win consistently
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i wish they never made this shitty 3ds version

they bit off more than they could chew, and we all have to pay for it
while they make twice the money
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>>259813935
Look at the clock.
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The game being so slow deflates my hype more than any cut and clone character.

Pretty dissapointed
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>>259813792
PM is far from balanced compared to even Brawl.
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The "leaked" video is just a mod of Project M.

>Shulk is nothing but ripped moves.
>Marth's up special
>Marth's down special
>Link's down air
>Project M Roy's up smash
>P.M. Roy's down smash

And people still think that video isn't just a mod.

Bowser Jr:
>Bowser Jr. rolls on stage in a clown car. That doesn't seem right.
>He jumps abnormally too.
>He has Diddy Kong's B up.

Shulk:
>He uses Captain falcons up B.
>Uses a lot of Marth's and Link's moves.
>Just stands there on the victory screen.

It goes right to Yoshi for no reason.
Not to mention Shulk's audio is ripped directly from Xenoblade chronicles.

This is why I trust Sakurai, not any of these leaks:
>Bowser Jr. is a skin for villager. Notice the boxing gloves and the bowling ball? The cannonball could be a skin for the rocket where the villager could ride on too.

>Shulk = Marth Why would they have the same up-special?

>Ganon = Cpt. Falcon. I don’t think I have to explain this one.

Potato quality, inconsistent camera work and timing, sound quality is off and unbalanced...
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>>259812125
>>259812209
Melee is not fast.

Glitching the game with wavedashing (IT'S N-NOT A GLITCH ITS AN EXPLOIT) is what makes Melee fast. Without that, Melee is slow as fucking balls.

If you want a real fighting game, play a real fighting game.
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>>259813158
I still can't believe people are seriously claiming this.
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>>259814291
gr8 b8 m8
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>>259810994
VIDS ARE DOWN.
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The videos were taken down by Nintendo.

If you deny this is all real, you're fucking delusional.
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>>259814291
>Bowser Jr. is a skin for villager

team fake is getting desperate
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>>259810994
Not only is it computers playing, but they're low leveled ones.
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>>259814291
Because Sakurai's never used assets from other games directly or made characters have similar animations, huh?
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>>259814291
>"shut up! BTFO BTFO! haha :DD"
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>>259814341
Right?

>we won't believe anything until we see gameplay footage
>leaker shows off gameplay footage
>W-WELL IT COULD'VE EASILY BEEN A BRAWL HACK!!!

Stay BTFO, I'm gonna be making Duck Hunt Dog one of my mains as a reminder to you chuckleheads.
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>>259814260

I wouldn't call PM balanced yet, but I can't think of anyone that's Metaknight absurd.
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ALL VIDS ARE DOWN
NINTENDO IS MAD, LEAK IS REAL
GET REKT NON BELIEVERS

ATHEISTS 0
BELIEVERS 1
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>>259814480
they take down all leaks that get enough traction

famously that CSS leak just before e3 got taken down everywhere, convincing everyone that it was the real deal
but then we saw the real CSS at e3, and it wasn't even close

i think it's real, but this doesn't prove anything
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>>259813613
>not since the MSX days
what a plebe

i bet you also liked snakes revenge fag
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>>259814291
>Not to mention Shulk's audio is ripped directly from Xenoblade chronicles
It's not. He says "air slash" completely different in the actual game.
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can't watch the video
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The "leaked" video is just a mod of Project M.

>Shulk is nothing but ripped moves.
>Marth's up special
>Marth's down special
>Link's down air
>Project M Roy's up smash
>P.M. Roy's down smash

And people still think that video isn't just a mod.

Bowser Jr:
>Bowser Jr. rolls on stage in a clown car. That doesn't seem right.
>He jumps abnormally too.
>He has Diddy Kong's B up.

Shulk:
>He uses Captain falcons up B.
>Uses a lot of Marth's and Link's moves.
>Just stands there on the victory screen.

It goes right to Yoshi for no reason.
Not to mention Shulk's audio is ripped directly from Xenoblade chronicles.

This is why I trust Sakurai, not any of these leaks:
>Bowser Jr. is a skin for villager. Notice the boxing gloves and the bowling ball? The cannonball could be a skin for the rocket where the villager could ride on too.

>Shulk = Marth Why would they have the same up-special?

>Ganon = Cpt. Falcon. I don’t think I have to explain this one.

Potato quality, inconsistent camera work and timing, sound quality is off and unbalanced.....
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>>259812321
>>259812710
>>259814092
>>259814291
>>259814681
>playing project doge
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>>259814831

That's because it was taken down for a copyright claim by Nintendo.

Sure an odd thing to do for fake footage isn't it?
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>mfw the videos are down
>mfw there are no more doubts that this is real
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>>259814332

wavedashing is not the primary way people move. it's mostly used as a small backstep to dodge pokes. you don't know shit about competitive smash, stop pretending like you do.
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>>259810994
>removed
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>>259813339
Snake was not at all shoehorned, he was there from the beginning of development. Sonic was fucking shoehorned in.

And he's still probably gonna be shit in Smash 4.
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>>259814681
Mewtwo, Link, Sonic, Diddy, and Pit. Those characters alone are far better than the rest of the cast.
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is it true that nintendo commented with "Nothing to be announced at this time" or something?
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>>259814849
remember to report, hide and sage every time this faggot samefag posts this butthurt shit.
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How is samurai suppose to reveal the newcomers now?
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>>259814897
>copyright claim by Nintendo.
Shit, got a image of the copyright claim?
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Someone post Browser Jr. Webm
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>>259814849
>This is why I trust Sakurai

Why in the fuck would you ever do THAT of all things?
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>>259814967
That's Nintendo's reply to anything you send. You are never going to get anything out of asking them shit.
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>>259814896
But Smash 4 is the one with the playable dog. And in addition to Lucina, there's also the Duck Hunt Dog.
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>>259814291
Nice try. A few months back, someone posted a "leaked" video of a Chorus Man on the 3DS Balloon Fight stage. It was flocked to like moths to a flame, but it wasn't taken down by Nintendo. Weeks later, the same Youtube posted leaks for Shrek and Tomas the Tank Engine.

On the other hand, the video with Shulk, Lucina, Ganon, and Charizard WAS taken down by Nintendo. Why would it be taken down if it was fake?
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>>259814849
>It goes right to Yoshi for no reason.
It's a video from someone claiming to be from the ESRB. They don't play the game. They get a video of the game's content to watch and put a rating on the game from there. It's going to have random cuts like that.
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>>259810994
NINTENDO TOOK IT ALL DOWN
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>>259814849
keeeeeeeep reachin, pal
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>>259814967
yes, and they just took down the leak videos from youtube
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>>259814903
To be fair they're videos that try to pose as in-game footage for an upcoming game.

I can see plenty of reasons why Nintendo would just want to take them down. If anything they just don't want it to interfere with real announcements.
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>>259814964

I definitely feel some of those characters could use tone downs, Mewtwo especially, but Brawl Metaknight is retarded. He's so good that he has a way to be invincible forever. He's so good they enacted a limit on ledge grabs just to make him less godlike.
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so
why doesnt it say removed by nintendo hmmm?
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>>259815376
it does
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>>259814989
>due to different reasons, your favorite characters are now gone
>instead, have these characters almost no one wanted
>pls understand
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>>259814291
The videos got deleted by nintendo.
It's real.
Please stop being so delusional and accept it.
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http://i.4cdn.org/v/1408975767872.webm
http://i.4cdn.org/v/1408975838162.webm
http://i.4cdn.org/v/1408975902563.webm
http://i.4cdn.org/v/1408975973254.webm
http://i.4cdn.org/v/1408976036474.webm

here are webms of all clips they took down
cba reuploading them because of the post timer
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>>259815423
it says removed by user on the OP video
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>vids taken down
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>>259815423
>>259815469
>This video has been removed by the user.
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>>259815376
>
"Leak6" This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Nintendo of America Inc..
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>>259815376
I'm not falling for your b8, Whitebeard.
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>>259815341
I hope you're right, anon. I don't want my Ice Climbers gone and have fucking Dr. Mario instead
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>>259815501
>Bowser Jr. in the flying thing
>Not using the awesome paintbrush shit from Sunshine

Well that's a waste.
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hahahaha please be a horrible game

PLEASE

fucking faggots
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>>259813331
You know they have to make the menus for those, right? Nothing about that pic showed online actually up and running.
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>>259815053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMdnEroxb30

Embed it. It's the same video as before
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>>259815178
apparently someone started a rumour that project m replaced the nintendog assist with doge
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>>259815545
you double nigger
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>In any competetive game, people just learn and adapt to the new meta when the new installment rolls out
>In Smash this is completely unheard of, however, and players of previous entries or fan mods DEMAND that their needs are met
Shigzshy
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>>259810994
I know you're reading this MOTHERFUCKING LEAKER !zAAj.twgB2 aka B.H.
If you don't make an apology and post a full retraction for all the falsified information you have made up (including Ridley!), by the end of the day I am going to post all your personal information and you won't be able to hide anymore
You heard me you little fucker, I thought we reached an understanding, if you want to keep your anonymity come on here with your tripcode and dispel the lies you've told
You have made me very mad, very, very mad
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>>259815706
He does use the brush in his up-tilt.
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>>259815706
he used it for his up attack. at least i swore it was. the koopa car didnt deploy it, he just smacked someone with it
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> yfw tomorrow's Pic of the Day is the return of the veteran fighters, the Ice Climbers.
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>>259815876
I know right? It's pathetic.
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>>259815708
It is, but that won't stop people from hyping it, defending it, and playing it.

Seriously, there are people out there who legitimately LOVE brawl, and other M, and Sticker Star, etc. There's no brakes on the Dumbass Express
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>>259815969
I'll die of laughter
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>>259815878
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>>259815501

>Ganondorf

Still his shit Brawl version, I see. Increasing the team in charge of balancing characters from 7 to 12 did abso-fucking-lutely nothing. Sakurai needs to fuck off already.
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>>259810994
somebody make mirriors on Mega
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>>259815878
>>259816130
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>>259815878
>hating on the savior that granted us ridley
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>>259816061
i refuse to believe that people who liked Sticker Star aren't joking. If they're not, then they're not human. There is no possible way anyone could like it.
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Ridleyfags BTFO
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>>259815969
Whose dick must i suck for that to happen?
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>>259810994
You want good gameplay? What are you a tourney fag?
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>>259815878
shit just got real
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>>259815878
>You have made me very mad, very, very mad
ow the edge
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>>259814332
you realize wavedashing is just an alternative to shield dodging right? of course you dont.
melee is just a faster game
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>>259815878
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>>259816360
I'm not saying Ridley isn't in the game but I am saying the claims of DLC he made as well as the claims of Mach Rider, Ridley, Dixie, Chorus and Impa being the last five were completely false and he needs to #makeitright
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>>259816556
>experiencing a basic emotion is edgy
ok
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le slow game meme XD
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>>259811164
This

Is a damn shame 3DS version is the one with the cool feature too
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>>259816624
Since you seem to know so much.

All hints are pointing towards Ridley at least being boss tier.

Who are the last playable characters we are going to get?
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>>259814332
Even without wavedashing Melee is faster.
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>>259816731
It is though
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>>259815501
here's a video of all of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVttwpK9ioY&hd=1
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>>259815878
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>>259816624
Basically anyone who isn't ridley obsessed knows that that shit is bullshit. Chorus Kids was bullshit from the start.
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>>259816861
We probably got them all. One thing's for certain, if there's anyone left, it sure as fuck isn't Snake, the ESRB would have to know about that.
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>>259816624
no
the same guy who leaked the videos told us today that Mewtwo, Mach Rider, Impa, Dixie, and Ridley are in
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>>259816731

So no one can have legitimate complaints about how Smash 4 looks about as wonky as PlayStation All-Stars because it's a meme now?

Well, you learn something new every day.
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>>259816861
Fuck if I know.
Seriously, just wait. We'll know in a couple weeks.
If you seriously believe that Ridley is not going to be playable after all this time, though, I don't know what to tell you
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>>259816984
I'm saying that as someone who fucking loves RH by the way, but they've been in ONE minigame.
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>>259814913
>smash
>competitive
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>>259817093
No, that wasn't the same person. Izat true is someone completely different. That other leaker is a reposter of the original leak images.
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>>259816602
It allows you to move faster than running and change your momentum instantaneously. It is the sole reason for Melee being "fast"

It's like saying Garry's Mod is fast because you can fucking bunny hop
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>>259817093
I misremembered. Whatever. The bullshit with Mach Rider and Impa. That's made up.

This little kid wants attention. If he really wants attention that bad, and doesn't issue a retraction by midnight PST, he'll get all the attention he could possibly want
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>>259814913
lol no one cares about competitive pleb
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>>259817328

>well defined winner and loser
>not competitive

even rock-paper-scissor has a national scene
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>>259816916
> has the black lighting effect when a character gets hit at high damage with KOing move.

i don't know, I think is the real deal guys.
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>>259817431

That's bullshit and you're stupid for believing it. Melee is clearly faster than Brawl/4. Just look at the speed characters jump and fall at.
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>"Leak3" This video is no longer available due to copyright claim by a third party Nintendo of America Inc..

IT'S HAPPENING
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>>259811385
>>259813198
>>259813198
>>259813212

But I thought they were "the same game," with the 3DS version even running at 60fps? I want to be optimistic, but it seems so hopeless.

I probably won't even get the 3DS version now, and the Wii U version won't even be out until 2015.

>>259813510
>it seems like they reused the brawl engine
>My face
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>>259817093
He told us the DLC stuff was bullshit. The complete opposite.

>Mewtwo, Mach Rider, Impa, Dixie, and Ridley DLC was fake just to fuck with you retards
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>>259817573
I bet those olympic Rock-Paper-Scissors matches are pretty intense
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>>259817431
Do you mean dashdancing? Wavedash retains no momentum and is barely even used for movement outside of close range neutral game.

Wavelanding affects the speed of the game more anyway
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>>259810994
It's level 1 CPUs showing what kind of violence there is.
>>
Anyone want to netplay Melee?
4fd7f7d0
running Dolphin 4.0-652
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>>259816243
>He won't even be as good as his Project M version
>Will probably be literally the worst version of Ganondorf yet
>Every other character will be slow anyway, too
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>>259817997
no faggot, fuck off back to your sweaty nerd dying tournament
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>>259817685
>Being this far in denial
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Guys, in the ESRB video, the All-Star Mode was locked.
You have to unlock all characters for it to be unlocked.

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?
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>>259812321

>Wanting shit like Knuckles, Lyn and Who-gives-a-fuck from Advance Wars over Pac-Man, Megaman and Duck Hunt

Good, I hope you keep playing Project M until the end of time so all the cancer like yourself can be contained.
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>>259817685
>he's so blown the fuck out that he keeps reposting this on every smash leak thread he comes by
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>this is the first Nintendo game where you can play as a character and beat the shit out of his son
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>>259818189
no :^)
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>>259818238
Smash 4 is the containment, you dumbass
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>>259818210
>Guys, in the ESRB video, the All-Star Mode was locked.
>You have to unlock all characters for it to be unlocked.

>YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?

That it was an edited video that could have been cobbled together from multiple 3DS systems, all with varying save files, with at least one save having All-Stars mode unlocked.
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>>259818210
Post a picture, I didn't see it among the others.
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>>259815878
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There was talk of the WiiU being hacked, no?
I'm ready for Project M 2.
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>>259818369
That's not even true
>>
>>259818210
Means it wasn't ready, or that it now requires all ATs to be unlocked or simply because they showed a version with characters unlocked but not game modes (something that happens very often in game development to ease testing).
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>>259815501
Well, this looks fucking awful.

One less game I'll need to get.
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>>259818389
post more nonon
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>>259818238
>Even with two systems behind it, Smash 4 is going to be the lowest selling in the series
>The netcode will still be horrible and unplayable
>Sakurai goes into depression and swears it off forever
>HAL and Retro make Smash 5

It's only going to take about 17 years but we'll finally get a good Smash again, guys.
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>>259818210
>not 555kb
come on guy
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>>259818430

Even Project M devs say they don't want to do a Project M 2.
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>>259818419
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>>259817685
they're pm leaks!
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>>259818647
only if you netplay with me
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>>259818395

>The P:M delusion is real

Enjoy the slow death of your mod as its developers destroy any semblance of quality with their constant shitty 'balance' nerfs.
>>
looks awesome
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>>259818165

Yup. And people still defend Sakurai. Everyone is so scared of playing a faster game and having GOOD characters. It's insulting how he dumbs everything down for the casuals and people eat it up.
>>
>>259818806
no
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>>259818909
I don't fucking care about Pm, it's still not Melee
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>>259818945
>trying to keep toxic tourneyfags away from the community of people who actually like fun things

yes sakurai is such a bad man
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>>259818727

Wow, look at all this literal nothing you posted, Anon.

Do you feel special now? Do you feel like you belong among the shitposting elites?
>>
>>259818784
>no Dog or GandW
>>
Videos got taken down.
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>>259818784
AWWWWW SHIET...I really hope this means something
>>
>>259819110

Oh, so you're just shitposting for shitposting's sake. Got it.
>>
>>259817685

this pasta's less than an hour old and it's already tiring.

shulk's circular down smash (or tilt) makes a full circle around him. marth and roy slash once on each side. shulk's up smash (or tilt) is way different than the fe characters. his down air is just like link's and his up b is just like marths, not falcon's.

it's an esrb dvd, so it would naturally go straight to some other clip.

villager isn't in project m. villager is only in the new smash, so it can't be a mod; the character isn't even out yet.

bowser jr's face smash against the screen wasn't good looking enough for you? you're legitimately delusional.

this is a real leak.
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>>259815590
It doesn't even say that. It says removed by request of Nintendo of America, Inc.
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>>259819267
didnt know that already, thanks tripshitter
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>>259819275
It doesn't. Don't get your hopes up.

People were thinking the similar things with Brawl's roster.
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>>259819212
>wanting good gameplay is toxic

sakuraifags everyone
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>>259819428
I don't even give a shit about this
But that's the message I was given
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>>259819241
>implying I'm "butthurt"

I have other games to play. Saves me money, too.

>Do you feel special now? Do you feel like you belong among the shitposting elites?

Speculating on the future based on facts (Wii U's low sales, Wii U + 3DS sales below Wii sales, no universal hype from previous game to help sales like Brawl had from Melee) is "shitposting?"
>>
>>259819384
>liking melee is shitposting
>not liking pm or smash 4 or brawl is shitposting
I don't think you know what shitposting is you dumb ass
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>>259819254
Someone explain this......pls?
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>>259818727
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>Absolutely nothing for Eternal Darkness
>Nintendo will lose the license in a few years if they continue to not use the property

DON'T WORRY GUYS, THERE'S STILL A SILVER LINING TO ALL THIS
>>
>tourneyfags won't touch Sm4sh

thank God
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>>259819785
They just put the more iconic characters. Anything more would become too crowded.
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>>259819461
Well, if Mewtwo is in like the leaker said, I'll be happy with the current roster.
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>>259819663

>Making wish fulfillment bullshit with zero backing is 'speculation'

Yeah, ok Anon.
>>
>Nintendo going damage control and removing the videos


100% confirmed at this point.

sucks because Falcondorf and Pittoo, but I didn't expect a super good roster unless the encryped leak is true
>>
>>259819995
who cares
>>
>>259819745

Way to completely miss the point, shitbird
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>>259820269
The Retro thing's a bit of a stretch, but everything else is plausible.

especially since HAL made the first two Smash games.
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>>259815706
What else would his final smash be?
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>>259815878
BURN IT
BURN IT ALL
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>>259814291
>>He has Diddy Kong's B up.

and Megaman has Sonic's UP B.
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>>259820427
look for non-monetized ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0E2TiTPBR0
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>>259820458

No, it's based entirely on your obvious bias against the game. Don't even bother arguing this, dude.
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>>259818589
To be fair neither the CPU or the player looked very good at playing
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>>259820115
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>>259819596
>gameplay is only good if I think its good
>>
>>259819254
>>259819785

It's locked

it's just showing the unlocked characters at that point.
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>>259819428
But it literally fucking doesn't
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>>259820115
Too bad I will, faggot. Enjoy getting your ass kicked.
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>Shulk's icon is half of the monado

That was a shitty decision.
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>>259820808
>implying Smash 4 will ever reach Brawl's sales on a userbase of 6 million plus 44 million to the Wii's 100+ million

>implying the Wii U isn't going to die off faster than the Saturn once Smash 4 is the system's final major push
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>>259821950
>Nintendo
>giving up on a console
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>>259820115
not only tourneyfags are disappointed but regular smashfags are too.

Today everyone is fucking upset shit for brains.

>Dark Pit
>Dr Mario
>Wii Fit trainer
>Rosalina
>No Paintbrush Bowser Jr
>Ice Climbers gone
>Clone Luncina (I like her but she should have really replaced marth or stayed a skin)

Look at all that shit decision making on Sakurais behalf. I wouldn't be surprised if this REALLY was his last smash bros he would be directing because look how the fucking internet is reacting to all this shit.
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>>259818369
>father no
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>>259822195
And when you gaze into the abyss

the abyss gazes back
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>>259822235

I don't know why people pretend brawl wasn't a colossal disappointment. There's a reason why brawl had a shit ton of hype and why 4 doesn't even have half of it.
>>
>Ice Climbers replaced by Rosalina
>Bowser Jr. added
>Dr. Mario brought back
>DARK FUCKING PIT
>9 Mario Characters

this roster is too shit to be true, Sakurai wouldn't shit all over other franchises like that, not this much.
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>>259822235
>look how the fucking internet is reacting to all this shit
Oh boy he made a couple of autists mad. He's totally getting fired.
>>
>>259819428
some of them say by user while other say by NoA
>>
>>259822235
Hey, whooaaaa, slow down there buddy

For all we know Dr. Mario has the Tornado instead of the FLUDD, which would actually be great.

But yeah, a lot of disappointment today.
>>
>>259822195
>implying Nintendo never gave up on a console
>What is Virtual Boy?
>>
>>259819785
It's just an infograph showing early characters and their yearly dates of origin.
>>
>>259822235
Bowser Jr has his paintbrush for one move
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>>259814185

ahahaha what does this prove? overlay a clock on top of the original "video" easily
>>
>>259822596
>My standards are the correct standards
This is where the gaymur vs party player thing happens and everyone blows up
>>
Isn't Bowser Jr. technically a Yoshi character? Why does he have a Mushroom and not an egg?
>>
>>259823354
No, that was Baby Bowser.
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>>259823354

I don't know why Yoshi has his own logo, he's a fucking Mario character. Same as Wario. We're up to fucking nine of the fuckers. 20% of the roster is fucking Mario characters.
>>
>>259823354

You're thinking of Baby Bowser.
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>>259822596
Brawl was a fucking ton of fun.
>>
So it's as shit as brawl, i remember how me and my friends went back to melee until the modders fixed brawl so it was actually playable.

i remember playing a lot as Donkey Kong back then, it was like jumping on the surface of the moon, i was such an easy target while trying to float down from the sky after being hit or whatever, so slow.
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>>259822235

Oh shit, the internet is overreacting over stupid shit? Better burn down Nintendo headquarters, then.

Also, keep with the times, man. Since Ridley, Mach Rider, Chorus Kids and Dixie were confirmed as well, the bitching has subsided. Your flaccid nerdrage means nothing.
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>>259822609
It's true. He did. Now enjoy your clones
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>>259823476
>>259823540

Ah shit, you're right. And we know for sure this is Bowser Jr. since he's using the brush.

Which game does he use that clown thing in, though? Just curious.
>>
>>259817479
since you know all this shit, can you just tell us now so we don't have to wait that long?
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>>259823620
>Since Ridley, Mach Rider, Chorus Kids and Dixie were confirmed
Wait what?
>>
>>259823489
People that think Wario is a Mario rep are delusional. Go look up the games Wario has been in. How many of them are main Mario games?

Yoshi is more of a stretch, but at least he's been the main character in enough of his own games.
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>>259823723
Sticker Star, NSMBU.
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>>259822662

Dr. Mario is gonna have a Water Flosser
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>>259823905
It doesn't change the fact that most people that play Smash will associate Wario with the Mario series. They don't see Wario and say "oh, that's the guy from Wario Land/Wario Ware" they say "oh, that's evil Mario from Mario Party and Mario Kart".
>>
>>259822851
I saw that
it should have been the other way around. and the paintbrush should have been all of his melee and the clowncar should have been his B up, He could have painted a Cannon and ball.
Where the fuck did the creativity go ?
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>>259823489

Well technically DK is a Mario character as well.
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>cuts a two-time veteran unique as fuck retro character
>so he can put in 3 more Mario Characters

bullshit. Ice Climber shit is in Smash Run too, and he talks about developing them on the 3DS in an article back when the roster was already settled on. This leak is fake as shit. Throwing in shit like Ridley, Mach Rider, and Dixie is the leaker trying to ride his shitty followers for all they're worth. Same shit with the Gematsu leak, is being repeated once again. Thank fuck this shit isn't real
>>
>one of the few people in the world that would actually like Bowser Jr.

>they put him in a fucking flying vehicle that can't even fly
>it just hovers extremely awkwardly 2 inches off the ground

Whyyy. That's so awful.
>>
>>259823792

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2ejobc/allstars_mode_still_locked_still_more_characters/ck03t7c?context=3
>>
I can't believe it!
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>>259814582
>Lucina literally does animations of MArth from Brawl

This said, I think that's either an old version of the game or a unstabble version. Seems clumsy
>>
>>259824147
with that logic half of the characters wouldn't even be in
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>>259824224

Sakurai defies logic.

He cut Mewtwo for no reason.

>b-but Rucario!

which they only share a grand total of one move with and the act differently.
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>>259824464

we blame sonic for the mewtwo cut though
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>>259824689
Literally the first I have ever heard anyone here say that.

What?
>>
>>259824247
The leak is recorded from a video. the video may be showing the menus at different stages of progress.

All star mode locked means jack shit unless we can see an un-cut video of them going from the locked screen to the roster
>>
>dark pit is in
>king k rool and ridley are not

CANT SLAY THE SAKURAI
>>
>>259824147
That's why Sakurai includes both costumes.

And unless I'm a special butterfly, I associate Wario with WarioWare and that wasn't even the first time I saw him.
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>>259824937

sonic was added somewhat last minute after he crushed a ton of character polls and they got the ok from sega. Mewtwo had by far the most work done on him of all of the forbidden 7. It's assumed that sonic took up the rest of the character dev time.
>>
>>259822636
>Oh boy he made a couple of autists mad.
but you seem happy
>>
I can't view any videos or webms right now.
Does the gameplay look any different than the demo?
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>>259815501
When I watched that video of Bower Jr on YouTube I thought that he was Jigglypuff with a alt costume hat on or something.
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>>259825561
That sounds really retarded. It's just a bunch of wild assumptions.
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>>259826576
Me too. His animations are awkward as fuck.
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>>259826583
To me, the bayonetta theory sounds about right. ZSS Model was supposed to be her but canned at the last second.
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Guys. DLC is the worst thing that can happen to Smash.

Not everyone will download it especially if it's not free. So what's the point of me buying/downloading those characters if I may not be able to use them outside of my house?

How can a party game have add-ons?

What if anyone hosts a tournament without the DLC characters?
>>
Yeah but if all of this came from an ESRB tester could we see a lawsuit? We defiantly will see an extremely strained relationship between Nintendo and ESRB now.
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>>259827650
i bet there won't be DLC at all, unless it's just a day one patch to add in content that no one could have leaked
>>
-Balance/bug patches would be free
-DLC characters would be free
-Stages might have a price
-Players would need to have the characters downloaded and other patches downloaded to go online
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>>259812321
wait, this skin is in the game?
>>
>>259814624
>-WELL IT COULD'VE EASILY BEEN A BRAWL HACK!!!
But it could, anon.

People have been doing it since forever. Remember the Palutena leak?
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>>259828883
The one that was a fucking still image and not several videos?
>>
>>259828883
yes, i'm sure someone was capable of and went through all the trouble of fabricating several gameplay videos with two new characters with new movesets, and faked nearly 40 images of screenshots
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>>259819596
>exploiting physics to have a seizure is good gameplay

tourneyfags everyone
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>>259829483
>someone says good gameplay
>automatically think it's about melee

sakuraifags everyone
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>>259822596
Brawl was the best smash game to date and smash 4 will be when it comes out.

Only tourneyfags think otherwise
>>
>>259829629
Do you really think Melee style physics would have worked with the 3DS controls? Come on, tourneyfag.
>>
>>259829797
No one is mentioning Melee anywhere. You're so deluded into thinking that everyone who wants decent gameplay is a fucking tourneyfag that wants to wavedash all over the place
>>
>>259830050
certainly you dont mean to say that smash 64 had good gameplay
>>
>>259830050
>wants to wavedash all over the place
I bet you do, fucking tourneyfag. Go turn off items and fuck yourself.
>>
>>259830216
Smash 64 has good gameplay

Shield... I dare you.
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>>259828596
They post alts every Tuesday. On their Twitter.
http://imgur.com/a/0Mobn
http://imgur.com/a/NEQZi
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>>259830216
it does
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>Nintendo makes a game that sort of resembles an old one like Mario 3D World
>REHASH NINTENDO WHY DO YOU MAKE THE EXACT SAME GAME PREORDER CANCELLED
>Smash
>FUCK NINTENDO WHY DON'T YOU MAKE IT EXACTLY THE SAME EVERY TIME
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>>259830216

nigga what. 64 had great gameplay and would be perfect for the 3ds. Brawl was always the black sheep
>>
>>259830456
Nobody wants Brawl 2.0, faggot.
>>
After playing them all this is the speed at which each game runs.

>Super Smash Bros. 64
1.0x
>Super Smash Bros. Melee
2.0x
>Super Smash Bros. Brawl
0.5x
>Super Smash Bros. 4 (Wii U)
1.5x
>Super Smash Bros. 4 (3DS)
0.5x
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>>259830216
Smash 64's gameplay is way more F...U...N than the other games in the series.

You can land combos for days without resorting to exploits.
>>
> a clone of Pit that is just Pit with black hair
> a clone of Mario that is just Mario as doctor
> a clone of Link that is just Link but smaller.
> a clone of Marth that is just female Marth.
> all these shitty clones

Well, you got your wish tourneyfags, this game is just like Melee.
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>>259814291
>Villager
>Project M
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>>259830970
>no wanting these characters
>Black Angel Marth
>Doctor Marth
>Toon Marth
>Female Marth

Fuck off, we need more Marths. I bet you're mad that Dragon Marth isn't in.
>>
>>259830970
Tourneyfags are playing Project M, though, which went and made Roy much more distinct from Marth.
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>>259831034
There has been a modded villager PSA for months now.
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>>259830970

>characters
>having anything to do with gameplay
>game still moves like molasses
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>>259830710
it's not nice to lie
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>>259830970
>It's always the tourneyfags

Look man, i know the tourneyfags are the devil, but find one saying they want more clones.
>>
>>259831426
I'm not lying, played 4 at Bestbuy on Wii U, played 3DS version at Comic Con.
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>>259831206
FUCK YOU DUDE THE WOUND IS FRESH

I KNEW YOUNG MARTH WAS UNLIKELY BUT I THOUGHT DRAGON MARTH WAS A LOCK FOR SURE
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>>259831465
Considering a lot of them play clones, I don't think it matters too much. They just want whoever is either their absolute favorite character or whoever is top tier.
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>>259830970
I know right. The game is half clones.
>Ganondorf
>Toon Link
>Lucina
>Dr.Mario
>Falco
>Dark Pit

6! Just like in Melee. Except with customs moves and a roster almost twice as big
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>>259831536

I played both versions and they are both slower than 64
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>>259831628
>yfw Dragon Marth will be Lizard Marth's Alternate Costume, a purple Lizard Marth, and Sakurai will laugh in your face

Don't worry, Ridley would have been cool, or at the very least one of the Hunters. But oh well I got other characters like Lucina, Little Mac, and Megaman and shit.
>>
Why do people get so angry about Smash Bros clones? Every other fighting game does it even worse. Street Fighter has like 50 Ryus.
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>>259831791
Watch Impa be a Sheik Clone
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>>259830665
I do. Brawl was fucktons of fun and so was melee. I just want a smash game nigga
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>>259830359
>>259830447
>>259830550
>>259830810

I think it's a fun game but come on. Every move has a trillion fucking years of hit stun, how is that good gameplay at all? Not being able to do anything isnt even gameplay
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>>259831906
Of course it's slower than 64.

64 > 4, it's just simple math.
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>Roster's shit
Well there goes any chance of me buying a Wii U for this
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>>259831954
Oh I don't have any feelings for Ridley one way or the other I just wanted to play off of your post. I was a Shulkfag anyway, though he looks somewhat uninteresting unless his stances are more meaningful than the clips made them appear.
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>>259831906
>>259831536
i was at best buy and played both versions multiple times. both versions are faster than brawl. anyone who says otherwise is either lying or doesn't know what they're talking about
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>>259831994
Because Smash players are entitled little babies, and this is coming from someone who loves Smash.
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>>259831465
Half of Melee's newcomers were clones
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>>259814291
To be fair, there are custom moveset mods for Brawl. I remember downloading a Saber skin with her own unique moves but I never bothered to install it.
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>>259832260
I'm still iffy on this leak personally, some of just seems off, especially with the way Shulk moves and reacts. He could be an interesting character to play as though if the leak is true.
>>
>>259832126
What the fuck did you want? I feel like some people would just never have been satisfied. Are you forgetting we got fucking Little Mac and Mega Man just because they were announced early?
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>>259832541
see >>259832292
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>>259817829
>Implying there are Olympic Video Games.
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>>259832126

Keep hearing that but no one has ever really suggested any better character ideas. They think crap like Isaac are worth having.
>>
As if this is even shocking. I guess I'm surprised Sakurai didn't pick more obscure literally who characters, but I'm not shocked Kid Icarus jumped from 2 to 3.
I'll get it for the 3DS, but just because I want to experience it firsthand.

>>259832541
Brawl with better mechanics and some new characters who are beloved by fans and have effort put into them.
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>>259812719
>Snake
>not Iconic
>Ridley
>Iconic
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>>259832763
>beloved by fans
Yeah, like... Mega Man and Little Mac? Just because Ridley isn't in isn't the end of the world, man.
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>>259832763
Meant from 1 to 3.
Sorry, pic related.
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>>259832117
The only bad things about Smash 64 are the lack of "competitive" stages meaning we see more Dream Land than dicks in a mirror and how bad most control sticks are these days.
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>This video has been removed
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>>259832475
Yeah, he was played by an AI that seems to most likely be on the lowest setting, but what moves he did use seemed like really canned swordsman stuff. From the look of it, he's stance based. Worst case it's purely damage ratios. Best case is something akin to Gen with multiple normals/jump arcs/etc.
>>
>>259810994
I have played the game for 3DS and Wii U and I can confirm it moves almost at the same speed as the Wii U version, but since it has slower render it is understandable
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>>259815469
i dont want it to be true, no ness, i dont care about pit reskin, i just hope they didnt cut ness
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This leak though.
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>>259832292
>Scrap characters with different movesets for more clones
>Y-YOU'RE JUST ENTITLED
*this is coming from someone who's a fanboy
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>>259832954
ridley's in you dumb nigger
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>>259831994
I don't have a problem with clones, but it is clones of characters that are already on the roster that bug me.

Clones are great ways to include a character people wanted without much effort, which is why I'm okay with Fox and Falco because Falco is a different character than Fox.

Dr.Mario, however, is stupid. We all ready have Mario so why make another. Same thing goes for Toon Link. They just feel like wasted space and I would trade them (and Dark Pit) for one new character even if that makes the roster smaller.
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>>259814291
>>259814896
>>259814735
>>259814583
>>259814582
>>259814504
>replying to b8
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>>259832954
Literally two?
Well, you're forgetting Pac-Man, but regardless. Who in the hell wanted Bowser Jr. in the Clown Car?
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>>259831712
>>259832294
As a Melee tourneyfag, the only reason I was pissed about Falco's decloning is how many hours I put into him and I had to start from scratch. If I didn't play Falco, I wouldn't have given 2 shits about his moves changing.
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>>259833302
I would argue there is a place for characters like Toon Link, though. For example I like Link's moveset, but I feel like he was just a bit too slow, so I play Toon Link instead.
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>>259815469

it makes the product look bad ya sperg, it has nothing to do with legitimacy
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>>259832938
>man from a series that isn't even known for being on Nintendo consoles who was only added because Sakurai was friends with Kojima
>major villain in one of Nintendo's main series
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>>259833129

Ever since Brawl they've been scrapping characters. The roster continuously growing at the rate it currently is while keeping every previous character is obviously unsustainable.

And they aren't going to limit the number of new characters by bringing back all the old, otherwise the games would just be the same.
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>>259833686
Actually, Snake and Sonic were in Brawl because it was too late in development to put them in Melee
>>
>Expected but sucks you left tier
Snake

>Why did you have to leave us, what the fuck?! tier
Ice Climbers

>That sucks tier
Lucas, Wolf

>Meh
Ivysaur, Squirtle


>WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU BACK?! NO SERIOUSLY. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU BACK?! Tier
Dr. Mario

I mained Dr Mario in melee, but there is no reason he should be back over Wolf or Lucas.
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>>259814291
>Gannon=Cpt. Falcon

You say this like it proves something. Gannon has always been exactly like Cpt. Falcon.
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>>259833705
>The roster continuously growing at the rate it currently is while keeping every previous character is obviously unsustainable.
Why?
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>>259827650
you have to update it anyway if your wiiu is connected to the internet
>>
>>259819428
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>>259814291
Haha. Someone screencap this lad. Will be a great addition to those collages of screencaps when the roster is officially confirmed.
>>
>No screencaps of all the people saying the leak wasn't real
What the fuck /v/?
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>>259834790
ha haha
ha haha haha
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>>259834790
Until the game comes out, none of the anti-leakers are gonna accept it. Releasing a screen cap post will be far more satisfying then.
>>
>>259813339

>Shoehorned

That reveal was smoother than butter on an oil slick son
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>>259821224
But you need to unlock every character to get to All Star mode
>>
So..wait..
Gematsu leak back on track?
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>>259822849
Then where's Mr. Game and Watch?
>>
>>259810994
>one video
>when everyone already knows it's fast as shit because of tons of Comic Con footage
You can be that slow in Melee, it doesn't mean shit.
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>>259834991
Little macs mouth is bigger, nose is bigger, chin is bigger, eye brows don't match.

There is literally no resemblance here other than the direction they are facing. Are you blind?
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>>259834431
You niggers are retarded, go to the URLS.
https://www (dot) youtube.com/watch?v=Psc9NUkLMNk
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>>259835986
You're correct. It is fast as shit.
Shit doesn't move particularly fast, though.
>>
You guys can download the videos here:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/lb7xry
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>>259836280
speak for yourself
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>>259836260
THIS CONFIRMS IT.
THE LEAK IS FUCKING REAL.

EAT SHIT NAYSAYERS!
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>>259836695
How can you possibly even deny it at this point?
I knew some of you were retarded but not THAT retarded.
>>
>project m fags
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>>259836965
Have fun with your waifus and Dark Pit!
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>>259836941
Well I didn't but many others are.

With Nintendo removing videos. This 110% confirms it.
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>>259836695
why is everyone forgetting that just anyone can claim copyright claims on yotube, it's fucking easy as shit. That being said, I do think the videos are real but come on
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>>259837139
I will, thanks.
Let me know when PM gets stale so we can play Smash 4 together.
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>>259837139
>h-h-h-h-have fun playing the updated newest and most fun smash game y-y-y-y-you waifufag
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>>259837375

>shit gameplay
>fun
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>>259837139
I will have fun playing with my waifu thanks.
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>>259837685
>being a project m fag
>being eternally stuck in the past
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>>259837685
>Can't adapt to a new meta
>Stuck in 2002
>Relying on glitched and exploits to win
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>>259838050

>new is better

guess I should pick up yoshi's new island
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>>259838050
Yeah, I know what you mean. All these new characters on the horizon are really holding me back.
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>>259810994
Yeah, it's the same floaty shit as Brawl, but did you see the little to no landing lag after shulk did that F-air? He does a roll right after landing. It still looks like a vast improvement. Not saying it will be competitive for long, but more fun
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>>259834715
is this good enough?
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>>259836000
Nigger, it was sarcastic. Look at the post I replied to.
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>>259838361

>new meta
>implying I'm not better in brawl

I can be a laser spamming, chain-grabbing faggot all I want. It doesn't make it a good game or fun
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>>259838486
Oh boy, I can tell you're really excited for characters that already exist in actual Brawl to be added to your shitty mod of Brawl.
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>>259836965
>64 fags
>melee fags
>brawl fags
>4 fags

There, now we're all equal.
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>>259838361
The ironic part about this post is people adapted to Brawl's meta incredibly quickly, and found it to be even more full of glitches and cheap, dumbass exploits than melee ever was.
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>>259810994
Well, if I buy this game it will be Brawl again (unlock everything with no effort, play it for some months and forget it forever) so here is when I get off the ride.
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>>259838895
Like Skull Kid and Sami, eh?
>>
>>259810994
>a match with people that probably have little to no skill at video games
in not saying its as fast as melee but come on, if the people playing are anything like the treehouse people, they dont know shit about how to play
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>>259838995
People have been adding """"characters"""" to actual Brawl for years, and they're just as shitty and as expected of fanmade characters as your Skull Kid will be.
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HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING
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>Sakurai apologists
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>>259814964
You forgot about lucas bro... He literally shits on most of the cast.
>>
>>259839307
Dammit, I want Ness' amiboo.
>>
>>259839292
At least these clone characters will be less of clones than Smash 4's offerings.
>>
>>259814964
I don't know about you, but I kind of think it's awesome that Link isn't utter shit for once and instead is balls ridiculous OP.

Don't get me wrong, I want PMBR to fix it, I just kind of think it's awesome for the moment.
>>
>>259839506
He'll get no sympathy from me.

>adding more mario characters
>removing characters from underrepresented franchises
>Ganondorf is still a clone

What a load of shit. Ice Climbers get removed for a hundred Mario character.
>>
>>259839307
What a cunt.
>>
>>259840062
No man, we totally needed Dark Pit and Dr. Mario to be playable. They are totally more fun and unique than Ice Climbers were!
>>
People complained when they cut Dr. Mario and Pichu and wanted them back. Now they complain just from seeing the portraits of Dr. Mario and Dark Pit and we don't even know if they have unique moves or not.
>>
>>259840418
Who the hell wanted Dr. Mario back?
I can remember the butthurt about Mewtwo being cut, but nobody really cared about Pichu.
>>
People got over Rosalina and Wiifit pretty quickly, wonder if this will be the same way.
>>
>>259840758
>Who the hell wanted Dr. Mario back?
More people than wanted Dark Pit I bet.
>>
>>259840418
No one wanted Dr Mario or Pichu back.
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>>259838979
this getting good at brawl was the easiest shit ever. You literally outcamp other people till you get bored. Shield grab way too much,laser camp way too much, be a massive faggot,etc.
>>
>>259840973
>>259840971
>>259840758
People wanted Dr. Mario back as a fucking costume
>>
>>259841354
A doctor mario costume would be fucking dope. Beating niggas up as black Dr.Mario is fucking ballin.
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>>259840418

Everyone complains about everything.

In my opinion, removing Dr. Mario was a step in the right direction. I think Smash Bros is a celebration of Nintendo, and character variety is important. I don't mind if we get clones, as long as they are different characters.

Dark Pit is walking a very thin line, because he's literally a black-haired Pit with an attitude, but Dr. Mario is just Mario in a doctor's coat. For fuck's sake.

The only people that want him are those that hate FLUDD. Sakurai should have had the spin as an alt move and the coat as an alt costume.
>>
>>259841679
Dr. Mario is a veteran and a classic Mario spinoff, Dark Pit is a nobody with one very recent, hardly "classic" game.
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>>259840952
Rosalina earned her new name of "Nintendo's Lightning" solely due to her reveal.
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>>259838490
Don't shoot me here, but I think melee was a little TOO fast. 4 still seems a bit slow, but hella better than brawl.
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>>259842118
Dr. Mario is Mario in a coat.

This isn't debatable.
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>>259842491
So? I'm not talking about his similarity to the character he's a clone of, I'm talking about IS THIS A CHARACTER WORTHY OF BEING IN SMASH BROS.

Dr. Mario has one Smash game under his belt and a classic NES Mario spinoff. Dark Pit has nothing. Even between the two shitty clones there is a world of difference and Dark Pit is just inexcusable.
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>>259842118
Fuck "classic"

He's a costume change, that's literally all. Dark pit is his own character that shares pits appearance.
>>
Can someone explain the DLC thing to me? I know the original pic leak had some text about veterans + Chorus men as DLC. Which i think could work as free updates that will be included with the WiiU game. But then there's the Ridley/Dixie/Metwo thing which supposedly is DLC too.

Which is real? I was in the original thread and i remember the veteran DLC post was the same tripfag, but i got confused at some point.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmvWPiV37BM
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>>259842689
Dr. Mario isn't worthy of being in Smash Bros. Do you want Metal Mario as a separate character too? He's literally just Mario in a different wardrobe. That's what he's getting at. Neither one of them deserves to be in.
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>>259842689

I completely disagree, but whatever. This is way to opinionated to argue.
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>>259842689
>inexcusable
We're talking about playable characters in a fucking video game, not judging HAL Laboratory for crimes against fucking humanity.
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>>259842918
>Dark pit is his own character
>his own character
Cosmic Mario is "his own character." Dark Link is "his own character." Shadow Queen Pach is "her own character." None of them should be in Smash Bros unless they're fucking costumes.

I don't think Dr. Mario is a great choice either. But Dark Pit is pure nepotism wanking bullshit and you know it.
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>>259843073
Sorry for my hyperbole oneesama.
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>>259843661
You're forgiven.
>>
This is interesting if true, though I'd opt to point out that this isn't proof. There's too many potential problems with it.
>Copyright Claims are piss easy to file on Youtube with or without the correct affiliation; claiming to be NoA would be easy
>Concurrence of the text leak and the video leak does not make each individual leak more or less plausible; the video leak does not show the full text leak's worth of characters. They could easily be coincidental, especially since the characters shown in the video are considerably more plausible than many of the characters in the text leak.
>None of the characters shown in the video had particularly unique mechanics, many had attacks visually similar or identical to existing characters. This could be explained due to it simply being short, or an earlier copy (placeholder animations are common, so the similarity of Shulk's Up+B to Marth's may be explained that way) but this doesn't lend it credibility. Without unique mechanics being made apparent, there's no sound argument through which it can be justifiably stated "this isn't faked".
It's entirely plausible that this is real. It's entirely plausible that this is fake. There isn't any solid proof in either direction. The text leak lacks general plausibility; Sakurai has stated clones won't be present unless the gameplay is different which raises unanswerable questions about how Dark Pit would vary from Pit. Dr. Mario is the same. And... well, I'm skeptical as to the "Duck Hunt Dog" being present simply because we've seen visually convincing leaks in the past and I have no idea why anyone would expect such a character to be present. The Video Leak on the other hand is fairly convincing because all of the problems with it can be handwaved with untouchable claims but it also lacks decisive evidence.

So maybe, maybe not. I'll remain skeptical for the time being, partially because like almost every other "leak" it uses the 3DS version to obfuscate texture and model quality.
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I can assure you the game isn't slow like that. I played a demo version during Japan Expo this summer and i was amaed at how fluid the game was ! I wanted to buy the Wii U version only but now I want both...
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>>259843020
No one knows. Don't believe anything without strong visual evidence. This may be the whole roster.
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>>259843870
Reggie pls
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>>259815501
Oh shit bowser jr looks fun
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My biggest problem with Dr. Mario is that his re-inclusion is being followed by cutting Lucas, Wolf and Ice Climbers.
>>
>>
So, basically this is a leak of the ESRB content rating video

Which means if they showed a partially complete character select screen, that's all the ESRB knows about in terms of characters. We can basically assume that every "leaker" claiming to know the remaining 5 characters is lying
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